Asking Random People to Rate Our Boulders
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"I'm gonna flash everything in my trainers" is definitely most routesetters vibe 😂😂😂
Trainers? Too well fitted. Crocs are better
Crocks and trainers , pfft weak , do it in flipflops
@@slimaque727 nah bro, feet
@@slimaque727 Nah, moccasins. There was a guy who worked at the gym who walked over to a super crimpy and hard start to 5.11 with the tiniest footholds and just did it in moccasins. You would have thought the shoe bottoms were hard rubber, but then the guy folded them in half
Fr I laughed so hard when she said that but it’s so true!
Yeah, stand under the ladder and push it while I lose the last screw on this massive torso sized volume right above you 😂😂😂
Pure efficiency
It's so she can break the fall so it doesn't get damaged duh!
This feels very much like a spectacle vs. technical style battle. The pink looks better but the yellow seems better set.
erm what's the difference between "seems better set" and "looks better"?
@@jonaskarlsson5901 i would imagine 'looks better' refers to the appearance, whereas 'seems better set' means while it's definitely not the most eye-catching when your eyes look across all the walls in the gym, more things were considered in the process of setting it, like technique, foothold placement, handhold positioning to force certain moves.. stuff like that.
the pink one was much more technical, the yellow was basic moves with positive jug crimps and big feet
@@joeybissell4196 .... surely... you cant be serious?
@@joeybissell4196surely you aren’t colorblind?
i feel like routesetting is the thing every climber thinks they could do, yet every time they watch someone do it, realise just how hard it is
As someone who's been route setting at a small gym for about four years now, that's so, so, so true. I really didn't think it'd be that hard, but there's so much to consider and I've learned I love it nearly as much and sometimes more than climbing itself. It's so fulfilling seeing someone struggle through and then top out on a project that you set for them that they enjoyed. That's the part I've always loved most, as well as the puzzle aspect of creating it.
@@seaoc6578 I don't really feel like it's hard per se, but as you can clearly see in this video, experience matters a lot for efficiency and speed. They eventually made a fun boulder (though not in grade range, fun is more important than grade) by just thinking of "what would be a fun next move" from the body position. But, they had to do it every single time. And they misjudged how good/bad holds were on the wall, adding even more time.
He would've put it up in under an hour I think, and proper, not rushed.
I'm a "volunteer" setter at my gym as well, also four years, and just helped 2-3 new people get started. Our gym is top rope only, 8-15m walls, ancient holds (still massive, heavy!). I put in a route in the longest, steepest overhang, and in the same time they put a simpler one on the 8m vert. I had one maybe foothold (too good) that I didn't end up changing, they had 3-4. Not because the moves weren't fun, but they were just too hard for the rest of the route. So they did great! It just took them a lot longer, just like here :)
I started building a home wall (slab) and its hard as heck. Fun though
Surely the yellow boulder wins by virtue of actually seeming to be around v4? Only one person tops the pink boulder and they appear to be a very strong climber and as tall as Josh...
I totally agree. The worst boulders are those that miss the grading mark a lot, just makes the people trying them feel like shit.
The yellow hold climb was so beautiful and looked the better technical climb by a long way. The pink one just looked fun to throw your body around on but at the end of the day most of us boulder for fun.
I feel like the fact that only 1 person topped pink (with quite a bit of try hard) while many people topped yellow says something about them being on grade :P
As a routesetter i believe that most of the intermediate climbers have really strong fingers compared to the grade they usually climb. Poor technique and strong fingers - thats why its easier for them to climb a crimp ladder
@@maddhamstr You say that, but that pink thing forces you to catch a reachy sloper one handed, with barely any foot support or non.
The yellow had actual feet and was doable with minimal strength + good technique.
The pink one is more a V5/6 or worse for smaller climbers.
It all comes back to Magnus.
As the old saying goes..... All roads lead to Magnus.
I hope the lead pun was intentional
honestly those lil crimps are one of my favourite holds
@marcusramjam
My dad said if I don't win this hoodie, he's gonna put me in a triangle. 😞😭
Was wondering who set that pink, been stuck on it for weeks now. Thanks Josh.
I remember it being fun to set boulders at my old gym. It was not a commercial gym so we did not have any paid routesetters, so the members had to build everything instead. You could really see the personality and style depending on the setter. Really pushing things to their own personal limit
I can already say in the first 10 seconds that I wold like the bigger holds better. It doesn't matter how well a crimpy boulder is set, there's just something visceral about huge hold.
I had the exact opposite thought lol. Big holds are so hard to hold onto for my hands. It is probably an issue of muscle strength. It would be interesting to know why that is exactly so I could train for it.
Interestingly half of my friends prefer the crimps, the other half prefer the bigger holds. It's so intriguing how divided the climbing community is on this. I love it.
I knew in the first 10 seconds of the video I would prefer the climb by the actual route setter. I have better chances of something that makes sense, flows, and everything makes sense
The Pink monster is a typical Korean TikTok Boulder.
The yellow one is just elegant and technical.
The Pink one totally missed the mark on difficulty and is so much more dangerous for injuries.
My vote goes to the yellow for sure.
14:15 as a car guy... pain
At least it’s white, nobody is going to notice the clear-coat scratches 😂
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@uncletobsy
I love the flow from Caileans route. It looks like it flows so nicely, but yours and Melissa's got that nice dyno flair to it which everyone loves and the kneebar is a chef's kiss.
Big props to both climbs!!
Don't have to worry about that gym flooding if those are some V4s. Got a bunch of sand bags lined up for it.
In Australia these would be V3/V4.
It’s true. At first I thought you only had one outfit but now I know it’s because you’re head to toe in rúngne at every occasion.
Always got to dress in the best
@brunom2803
I usually like the cheap, fingery boulders a lot more, but i got to admit, the pink holds look amazing, and that knee bar at the top is just fantastic. I think I'd have a hard time deciding which one's better because both of them look really fun to climb.
@wesleygarlao Love these videos Josh! Would be interesting to see like a setter telephone game where setters have to continue setting boulders started by other setters and they can't remove holds
As someone looking to build a home wall and shopping online for holds, where does one get those "50p" holds? 😢
Banter is fun but for any type of contest your should really have the person presenting the options be impartial.
I was completely impartial 😅😉
This is where macros just draw a crowd, as a setter the movement on yellow is vastly superior than pink but unfortunately the holds just turn people off.
As a climber I know that I prefer the cheaper holds just because they suit my style better
@arotang love the content and the witty banter. Always look forward to watching your videos
@jesse.boulders
I really like your routesetting videos! Hope to be a routesetter one day.
When you stop winning comps perhaps?? Hello from a random fan at Hamilton Boulder Co.
That is a very funny premise. And a great video result. Good job, you've got a new fan!
Both problems seemed very nice!
Yes - by sheer visual appeal, the results are no surprise BUT.......from a business perspective the equation is little more complex - it took two people far more than twice the time and exponentially more material resources to produce a product that wasn't even twice as popular. The pink problem may have won the short term contest but it's an unsustainable model for commercial success. My vote (as an industry professional) is for Josh's problem (no contest).
Both boulders look like bangers I'd love to climb them both! Please come to Canada and set me one or two!
@Mario_Orva
Honestly both look really fun! The pink one is the one you’d feel the coolest when you stick the move while the yellow one is where you’d show of your technique a bit more. I’d love to try both!
@loicppk
Loved the banter, I seriously laughed out loud at a bunch of moments, great group dynamic here Josh !
Love the vid just a little safety head's up, your using the ladder the wrong way round the higher part is supposed to be underneath the lower part, not sure if that makes sense. Hope it's constructive criticism only made to improve yourself love the vids
@erik__carlson
About time i actually smash the subscribe button. Have watched your videos for ages anyway :)
Spot on. SO good to see the "stranger" climbing the routes! Peak community vibes.
@cedrikbrevik plz i need to win, i have no money for clothes and i walk around naked all day:(
@bsun7197
Should’ve put pewdiepie in the title for that 2 second cameo during the Rúngne promo
the start of the 2 should be different, you can be super cheaky with it
@chalkydork
please tell me where you are buying that many holds for 20$
Make more videos with Melissa (my coach)
dude I just love these amateur vs. pro setting vids :) never getting tired of it !
0:14 that my friend climbing
Uhhh what if we don’t have instagram 😢
@loris.foucart
Videos have been feeling like treats lately.
Love from France !
where do u buy that many holds for 20 quid?
Amazon set.
Also please let better people try them too
@luke.is.fake
Hi Josh @reinoutbest
@cody.s_0
Anyone that didn't like the crimpy yellow just hasn't eaten enough magdust yet
@owillson_outdoors
Yours would win either way. Crimps
Sorry Josh but I'd go for the yellow crimp fest any day of the week. @conlyn_mcevoy
@mitchellmcintyree I love your videos as well as Magnus’! Thanks for all the content that you make, I know it can’t be easy 😭 I would love that hoodie from the depths of my heart, and I also can’t afford it 💀 Have a good one and I’ll be praying over there in the corner (for the hoodie btw lol)
@Buddydoesstuff
Josh "Magnus and I are best friends"
Magnus " He Said What??!?!"
Neeed that hoodie!
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Can't wait to try these. Gonna be there Monday (if it's open) if not a few days later.
@dancingchris96
I´d like to win :)
@julius.kllr How do you Regulate the Nm given By the impact wrench ?
@kaieclacho711
Will this make me as tall as Josh and better than ondra?
It will! Works 100% of the time 10% of the time 😂
You can't actually compare these two boulders as they are entirely different in every way! Plus the yellow is 10x better on looks and grade!
@alek_jaltuszyk
i want a rungne hoodie...
@ethankowalsky 🙏
great video love that you did another part of this idea :)
@nathanheyndrickx LOVE Rungne
@ludwig_climbs
As somewhat a setter myself, I can say, it doesn't depend on the size (my gym just doesnt buy big holds 😑)
The movement on that yellow looks so good... but I'm definitely picking that pink 😅
Although you could set a whole gym of "yellows" for the price of one pink. So if I was a gym owner it would have to be 🟡 😶
@robbert_spaans Always surprised by how good your routsetting is in these kinds of videos. Keep it up!
I love these boulder setting vids, keep it up man!!
@andy_________3
What a fun video! Great one, Josh!
again again again
@Thomas.Gresh
@vertical_venture new hoody would be great!
@mats_rugland
So envy of those boulder walls!
🗽 Holds for $10k, that is insane!
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I really didn't know what i was looking at in that thumbnail.. I thought the "beginners" were holding pool floats and the "pro" a dart arrow
@krispclimbs good luck everyone 😁
@rfitesends sick climbs also I’m a team kid who likes to touch solid objects (climbing holds)
Lmao sad Magnus on the couch is peak climbing content.
@max.likes.rice
@wangostv
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Sick boulders!
@troppozump
thanks for the hoddie
Side note the pink was much harder than the yellow, don't know about them being the same grade
Puppy😊
Josh has a striking resemblance to Jaime Lannister
Sorry not Josh, the other guy
@mystishio
Loving the video! You and Cailean always crack me up😂
@punisher9oneone still need to order some mag dust
@yzzin95 Fun vid, route setting really does seem like such a hard thing to learn and do well.
@vaifaru
plssss i love rungne !!!!
lilian._mr
@serratos97 from Mexico, currently a Rugne client :)
“To help bring back Magnus’ dazzling smile” 😂 @kristeng_21
@leoleoleooakey i want to try setting :)
I think the pink one was a bit too height dependant. But overall looks really good.
Axel_climbs_up_things
@aaron_coker_ One of those hoodies would be a blessing! 🙌
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@Anton_._k I want some comfy hoodie
@martin.jezersek I love this clothes 😁
I want to try routesetting sometime, but for now, I’ll just settle for one of those hoodies…
@txdo_msk