There has to be a middle ground on the quality of FO3 between 'It's the second coming of Christ!', and 'This video game murder my family and kicked my dog.'
You’d think so, but this is the internet. A game is either the best of all time or absolute unplayable garbage in the eyes of most people. Thanks for watching!
You can skip the GOAT if you just talk to Dr. Brotch in stead of sitting down at a desk. If you want to replay a lot, just keep a save file right before the vault exit - it'll let you change everything at the door anyway.
I also always found it jarring that as soon as your character's grown up and Liam Neeson ditches you, the guards immediately go on a rampage, beat the Vault's only other medical professional until he becomes a loot container, blast several panicking innocents who probably just need someone to calm them down, do barely anything to stop the radroaches and are just in general exceedingly okay with obliterating people they spent decades living alongside with. Yes, the game kind of tweaks your nose with the final GOAT question to push "Overseer is obsessed with power", but he's still lived his entire life with these people. Yeah, he's kind of a prick, but are we seriously supposed to believe he's unstable enough to go off the handle like that without any prior incidents? That's my personal gripe with several parts of the game, really; characters start acting in utterly inexplicable ways as soon as the plot calls for it. Some actual choice would've been fun. Imagine if the childhood sequence hadn't railroaded you towards Amata; if you could've instead fallen in with Butch's goons from the start, rather than having this idiotic one-time karma flip decision just ahead of the GOAT. Imagine if Jonas is actually just arrested instead of being converted into XP by the guards, and the first guard you meet is the friendly one and you get the chance to turn yourself in for actual questioning instead of the fake choice it is in the game we got. Imagine if one possible reason for your quest to find Liam Neeson wasn't just to find the guy who one day went out to buy milk, but to drag him back to the Vault to explain what madness possessed him to sneak out of the Vault, inadverdently letting in a flood of hungry radroaches and getting several people eaten by them. Yeah at that point you're getting into 'time to rewrite the story' territory, but seriously.
“Beat until he becomes a loot container”. “Converted in XP by the guards”. Has anyone told you you have a way with words? Here I am, saying kill and dead like a plebe.
I’ve always found that it can kill the rad roaches WAYYYYY before you make it there. The “option” to sneak past is there I guess, but he almost always finds you anyways. Thanks for watching!
I thought this game was bad except the going back in time black and white part. The giant robot at the end that just walked somewhere and parks on top of a curb; that was how I remember this game ending.
For being a video saying Fallout 3 has the worst intro, definitely gave it a lot of compliments while the only major complaints are that the skippable GOAT test is long and that the guard you can sneak past you have to kill. I dont disagree with the opinion of it being an imperfect intro, but a video like this should have a bit more research and expansion upon its topics done. Fr though while 3 may be my least favorite of the mainline Fallout games, 2 (my second favorite) has the worst intro by far.
The only thing in 2 that is worse than 3 is 30 minutes of kicking ants with 20% chance to hit, and that’s a consequence of building your tribal villager into science/big guns/energy, instead of skills that tribals would actually use. But yeah, i agree, I’d rather take a goat, than kite ants.
Very very very well done video. Amazed to see your following isn't bigger. This is A tier content. Solid editing, music, incite. You inspire me and others like me to do what you're doing. Thanks, keep it up.
There’s a reason why People love the New Vegas Intro. You get Shot, wake up, pick your Traits and Tagged Perks and go outside to do whatever you want. That’s about 5 minutes. While I do like the Fallout 3 Intro, by the time you get free rain it’s been 30 mins to an hour. Same with 4. It takes a little too long to get to the game. Edit: Instead of the 4 segments of fast forward, after birth we get the fast forward to when Dad is examining us for the GOAT and it’s here we get Specials and Traits (in my version we get Traits again). After that he sends us to The GOAT and it’s here where we skip the Butch scene for now. The GOAT will not be read to us and instead they will just say first question and it pops up and this happens with all questions. This will cut 5 mins of force dialogue from the teacher and help us get through The GOAT fast. Afterwards, our friend tells us to follow them and brings us to a room. When we open the door to the room, it’s a Surprise Birthday Party and for the most part it’s the same as the original one, except this is where The Butch moment is added to show us how Karma works. We get the Pip Boy and now we learn how to shoot with Dad. After we get the photo taken, a Fast Forward happens to when Dad is missing and now we escape the Vault.
Fallout 3's intro is like... 5 minutes if you speed through it. The baby and toddler sections drag a little on repeat but everything else you can just skip and run straight through. Far better than Fallout 4's drowsy intro.
Everyone bringing up how you can skip the G.O.A.T. the despite the fact that doesn't fix anything, and it is still not skipping the questions since what he likely meant is not being able to speed through the dialogue that the player has listened to a painful number of times. And the option to skip it is something done by a character who is of evil karma, which immediately causes roleplaying to be hanged from a noose just for a little convenience. The entire thing is a combat dungeon like every other one in the game. It is the fact that Fallout 3 is left with the tumor-like problem of the clunky introduction for the player. Like. I love the intro for Fallout 3, but it is only good for about once or twice until it simply becomes annoying and a little patronizing. It is a perfect introduction for a new player who has never touched the game but besides that it is simply a slog.
You dont get evil karma from skipping the test, and you dont have to listen to the questions. Talk to brock before the test and hell allow you to skip it. That entire section can take literally 60 seconds if you talk to brock and skip the test…
I don’t like the motivation for leaving. Searching for a Father who has survival skills that far surpass our own is foolhardy. New Vegas is even dumber. Wasteland mailmen know their job is risky. You get shot, you don’t sweat it. For no good reason, the courier gets a bug up his behind, and delivers vengeance instead of mail. Not for a second did hunting Benny down make a lick of sense. Not to mention Luke Perry phoned in his Benny voiceover like his last name was rotary.
Or get this - after being born the game says "skip intro - yes/no" I have no idea how bethesda have released so many games in a row with terrible intros and have never worked out how to make a skip button
Better than Fallout 4's intro. Roleplaying "strickly" is why the G.O.A.T and Doc Mole butts phycology test are important. Fallout 4's just signing your name and pressing left or right on a clipboard? Makes no sense to me. How can a lawyer be soo bad at charisma, lacking in perception and dumb but yet be so strong and durable? or How can a Soulja Boi... Okay you got me there. At least in Fallout 3, whatever you did in the vault will be remembered when you come back like leaving some security alive. (I know that's not a lot for some people but it's something). Fallout 4: You come back for a cryolator and to show your companion your dead spouse. (Hey honey, look who I'm having sex with now.) Preston Garvey/ Oh great another Soulja Boi. Piper/ Nora: Oh so you do have a type/Nate: it's like I'm seeing double. Curie: Same DNA and blood type yet french? Cait/ Possible aids and diseases. Paladin Danse: Oh great another Soulja boi and he's biologically compatible. Hancock: Wait a minute, how would your spouse understand, sex with a Zombie. Porter Gage: Possible aids and diseases. Hey Shaun meet your new parents.p
You can skip the g.o.a.t.. I know because I've never been able to take g.o.a.t.. My game always glitches and dudeman won't start asking questions. So I have to walk up to him and tell him I don't want to take the g.o.a.t..
"Fallout" 3 is a decent loot, shoot, and exploration game but a terrible RPG and Fallout game. "Fallout" 3 is only Fallout in name only, I don't hate "Fallout" 3 because it did at least lead to Fallout New Vegas the best game in the franchise but it really did throw out and destroy so much lore and also lead to "Fallout" 4 and 76, the worst games in the franchise in terms of being Fallout games. If "Fallout" 3 took place like 20 years after the nuclear war, the ruins of Washington DC would make sense instead of being a dump for the sake of having a bleak post nuclear look and atmosphere -_- also Bugthesda fanboys are way bigger incels than even the far right Neo Nazi morons who love New Vegas just to hate only hate on Bugthesda. There are many far right incel fanboys who love Liberty Prime and anti Chinese propaganda and Satire in Bugthesda's "Fallout" games LOL. This satire was done so much better in Obsidian's Fallout games.
I like Fallout 3 but I don't like the intro, I prefered Fallout New Vegas who did way better as everythings you need is set up in one phase talking with Doc Mitchell instead of countless timeskips with overexposition and the character creation felt more natural granted you were shot in the head, and when you just got the essential stuffs you are on your own, free to explore the wastelands the way you feel like without being railroaded by the story telling you what to do and without any forced tutorials (yet that doesn't stop New Vegas to make pop ups in your first playthrough)
i was hoping you where going to talk about the Ron pearlman intro for Fo3 ngl, that intro is also horrible and nobody adresses it just because its well voice acted. For the unitiated its literally just a worse rehash of the Fallout 1 intro since Fo3 in many ways was ment to be a re-introduction to the series for the goldfish gamers of the late 2000s, id encourage anyone to compare the two intros between games, Fo3's has absolutly to say besides the obbligatory "war never changes" it has no truline, it dosent introduce any themes wich will become relevant in the game. literally nothing is lost if you skip it.
If not for intro you can run striaght to the garage and basically beat the game in 10 mins speedrun tranquility lane, speedrun lil lamplight get the geck
The intro is fine for the first time around, just turned into a huge annoyance after that first time. Almost like Bethesda just does not understand that people will probably have multiple playthroughs of their games. Just makes me question Bethesdas ability to make games, almost like they can not change and better their stuff even with stuff like a games intro.
I think its god awful for a repeat playthrough but a first time playthrough not to bad and in some parts kind if necessary like the bobblehead you can find on your dads desk before the goat exam and to actually at least in small amounts connect the player to the father and make them kinda care about the main quest but i do think its still boring af and should be skip able especially after a first time playthrough without having to keep a save or use a mod
tbh I like Fallout 3 but I do have some issues like you said the intro but my main issue with it is mostly it pushing a story onto the character which might be a nitpick but I like how New Vegas did not really give you a story so you can choose which type of character you are, and my other issue is mostly just later but I thought the whole aliens in Fallout kinda ruined immersion a bit since it's post apocalyptic then just aliens randomly being there
Wait….so your telling me the one Bethesda game that doesn’t follow the Bethesda formula to the T. Is what bothers you? What the actual fuck? Every Bethesda game has the issue of not having a good main story fallout 3 does a decent job at alleviating that negative thing. But people like you just want Bethesda to focus on not providing a decent main story. I always will find it strange how people hate fallout 3 and criticize every little thing wrong with. But when it comes to fallout new Vegas and you criticize it. Everybody flips their shit, wines, and cries wild. I mean fallout new Vegas. Is only good because of its dlc if you take that away it’s just another mediocre Bethesda rpg game. Also fallout 3 helps new Vegas and provides game mechanics and concepts that are improved in it. God forbid say anything positive about fallout 3 tho.
It's kind of crazy to see the whiplash to fo3 over time. I remember my dad coming home with a random game he selecetd for the ps3 at the time and it was mesmorizing being thrust into a game that was fairly different then what we were use to seeing at the time and friends i kept in touch with also went on about how they liked it. Heck i remember 3 being liked over NV around the timeframe NV just dropped. Crazy to see how much things change. I feel like a lot of people especially game reviewers simply never reach a real middle point between objective flaw and still being able to simply have fun with something. Yeah i had problems with 3 even back in the day like not being able to send fawkes in to save everybody because that was literally the obvious choice that saves everyone even to 10 year old me. The amount of reviews that are scared to give anything below a hard 7 without the mentality of it being utter garbage or grading parts of a game individually kind of reflects that in a way imo. As for the intro itself i remember almost running out of bb ammo trying to hit that dang radroach. I think it would've been better of everything else was cut down until you take the goat as a canon thing vaultdwellers do upon becoming an adult so they can be assigned roles and then having liam neeson dad escape shortly afterwards. For all the flaws of fo2 i believe in a match with the tribe warrior he tells you that not everyone can be talked down foreshadowing the fact that Frank will not back down as the final boss.
Yes! I remember at launch, New Vegas was seen as a major disappointment compared to 3. There’s a lot of revisionist history surrounding the two games. I don’t know when it became cool to hate on Fallout 3, but it’s definitely in style now. Thanks for watching!
@happygosunday What happened was that everyone grew up. Fallout 3 was largely popular with teens/young adults who are the ideal target audience for a game with great atmosphere and 0 depth. New Vegas only came out a few years later when these same people were still young and emotionally attached to Fallout 3. Then people grew up and replayed both games and realised that Fallout 3 is great in a few ways but really lazily designed in every way other than the nice little environmental stories and that the quest design + writing could have been done just as well by a 12 year old, whereas New Vegas put all its eggs into the role-playing basket and focused on world design/cohesion, great quest and dialogue writing and having the only Bethesda game with an interesting main story. The consumers of the video gane industry simply got older, growing out of the dumb sandbox and growing in to the idea of an actual RPG
+ FO3 was the first big 3d game of its kind that was developed in the west so it was always going to be recieved brilliantly. FNV was seen as a lazy copy on release which it was always going to be. But then in retrospect everyone can see the ways that FNV objectively improved on 3 and that helps remind you of all the ways FO3 was actually a super terrible game. To clarify I love FO3, I put in over 1k hours back in the day and I had a recent save at around 130 hours. Unfortunately I spent a huge amount of that playtime thinking about how NV did stuff better
@@boblionia what kind? First person rpg with a big world kind? Let me introduce to this small franchise called “the elder scrolls” made by this no-name company called Bethesda Softworks, and their little game called Daggerfall.
Agree most of the intro is bad, I do find it kind of funny the thing with the goat and the security guard, I found out you could skip the goat pretty early so I never had to deal with that upon replays. I can’t specifically remember my first play through but In re plays I don’t think I’ve ever once killed that guard, he always just get distracted by the roaches, it’s funny how most videos I see annoyed with the intro mention him. now a days though I don’t even bother with the intro. I keep a save that’s right before you get to re do your character so my new games just start from that save
the best opening in Fallout for me is Fallout one second it is Fallout New Vegas. And the worst one for me has to be Fallout 4 and second Fallout 76. Fallout 3 intro for me is in the middle it does drag but it's not like Fallout 4.
I'm pretty sure that everyone who has ever played this game shares the opinion that this intro is absolutely awful. You are not crazy in the slightest lmao.
bethesda games post morrowind seem to have a honeymoon phase where everyone thinks there the greatest thing there ever was and spend 100s of hours playing them then they get burnt out on them and start to look at the games more critically until a sort of synthesis of nitpicks and critque is reached where hour long essays explode onto the scene putting words to what most people feel but dont know how to articulate correctly
I only gotten into Fallout a few years ago, and I did try and play 3 once. I got up to Megaton before dropping the game, so pretty much just the intro lol. The intro just didn’t do it for me, and nothing in Megaton hooked me either. So yeah, as a newer Fallout fan I’d have to agree the intros not that great lol. Especially when compared to later games, I think while still slow 4 has a much better hook and gets to the action much faster. But still I should probably try and give 3 another go, it’s been a few years now and I’ve played a lot more games in the series now.
Definitely give it a go. I’m a huge Fo4 fan, and I’ve played the other 3D Fallout, and 3 strikes me as the right kind of gritty, and dirty, and unsettling. Plus, the map is huge. Double the others. The gun play feels dated, there’s no ADS, so you might want to go VATS.
you can skip the test if you talk to the teacher and they dont leave the vault cause they are scared thats canon the intro isnt bad but it does have bad pacing i agree 4 timeskips is too mna
There has to be a middle ground on the quality of FO3 between 'It's the second coming of Christ!', and 'This video game murder my family and kicked my dog.'
You’d think so, but this is the internet. A game is either the best of all time or absolute unplayable garbage in the eyes of most people. Thanks for watching!
The problem is with people who take any criticism of the game as someone saying “this video game murdered my family and kicked my dog”
You can skip the GOAT if you just talk to Dr. Brotch in stead of sitting down at a desk.
If you want to replay a lot, just keep a save file right before the vault exit - it'll let you change everything at the door anyway.
Bruh U r actually one of those people who think all blacks look the same ey? Jonas isnt the teacher lmfao
@@notthisyourlight You put on your pants one arm at a time don't you?
You shouldn't have to plan ahead to make creating a new character a bearable experience 😂
@@notthisyourlightthey don't???
Well this is universal advice for Elderscrolls and Fallout.
as someone who watched this video within the first 10 minutes of this being published, i can legally say "this sure is neat"
I also always found it jarring that as soon as your character's grown up and Liam Neeson ditches you, the guards immediately go on a rampage, beat the Vault's only other medical professional until he becomes a loot container, blast several panicking innocents who probably just need someone to calm them down, do barely anything to stop the radroaches and are just in general exceedingly okay with obliterating people they spent decades living alongside with.
Yes, the game kind of tweaks your nose with the final GOAT question to push "Overseer is obsessed with power", but he's still lived his entire life with these people. Yeah, he's kind of a prick, but are we seriously supposed to believe he's unstable enough to go off the handle like that without any prior incidents?
That's my personal gripe with several parts of the game, really; characters start acting in utterly inexplicable ways as soon as the plot calls for it. Some actual choice would've been fun.
Imagine if the childhood sequence hadn't railroaded you towards Amata; if you could've instead fallen in with Butch's goons from the start, rather than having this idiotic one-time karma flip decision just ahead of the GOAT.
Imagine if Jonas is actually just arrested instead of being converted into XP by the guards, and the first guard you meet is the friendly one and you get the chance to turn yourself in for actual questioning instead of the fake choice it is in the game we got.
Imagine if one possible reason for your quest to find Liam Neeson wasn't just to find the guy who one day went out to buy milk, but to drag him back to the Vault to explain what madness possessed him to sneak out of the Vault, inadverdently letting in a flood of hungry radroaches and getting several people eaten by them. Yeah at that point you're getting into 'time to rewrite the story' territory, but seriously.
“Beat until he becomes a loot container”. “Converted in XP by the guards”. Has anyone told you you have a way with words? Here I am, saying kill and dead like a plebe.
you can literally sneak past the guard while he's being attacked by the radroaches by going through he bathroom...
I’ve always found that it can kill the rad roaches WAYYYYY before you make it there. The “option” to sneak past is there I guess, but he almost always finds you anyways. Thanks for watching!
I havent watched the video but if i see you in the streets ima fight you
I thought this game was bad except the going back in time black and white part. The giant robot at the end that just walked somewhere and parks on top of a curb; that was how I remember this game ending.
I have a save at the Vault Door whenever I want to start a new game. It lets me reset my character within a minute, and I’m off!
This is the way
Growing up in vault 101 is my fondest memory
The best opning in the Serie is Fallout 1 it's bit like fallouts 3 intro minus all the bullshit
5:48 I thought you could skip the goat if you talk to Mr Brotch and use the rude option at the bottom.
You could but you aren't supposed to
Almost 15 years later and still learning new things about this game. The point still stands that the GOAT is lame tho
@@happygosunday it was lame in 3 and in 4
For being a video saying Fallout 3 has the worst intro, definitely gave it a lot of compliments while the only major complaints are that the skippable GOAT test is long and that the guard you can sneak past you have to kill.
I dont disagree with the opinion of it being an imperfect intro, but a video like this should have a bit more research and expansion upon its topics done.
Fr though while 3 may be my least favorite of the mainline Fallout games, 2 (my second favorite) has the worst intro by far.
The only thing in 2 that is worse than 3 is 30 minutes of kicking ants with 20% chance to hit, and that’s a consequence of building your tribal villager into science/big guns/energy, instead of skills that tribals would actually use. But yeah, i agree, I’d rather take a goat, than kite ants.
Very very very well done video. Amazed to see your following isn't bigger. This is A tier content. Solid editing, music, incite.
You inspire me and others like me to do what you're doing. Thanks, keep it up.
I really do appreciate that. Thanks for watching!
Where can i watch to video on fallout: brotherhood of steel?
Fallout 1 has the best intro after I created my character the game just threw me into the wasteland and trust me to figure things out on my own.
The magic of interplay
There’s a reason why People love the New Vegas Intro. You get Shot, wake up, pick your Traits and Tagged Perks and go outside to do whatever you want. That’s about 5 minutes. While I do like the Fallout 3 Intro, by the time you get free rain it’s been 30 mins to an hour. Same with 4. It takes a little too long to get to the game.
Edit: Instead of the 4 segments of fast forward, after birth we get the fast forward to when Dad is examining us for the GOAT and it’s here we get Specials and Traits (in my version we get Traits again). After that he sends us to The GOAT and it’s here where we skip the Butch scene for now. The GOAT will not be read to us and instead they will just say first question and it pops up and this happens with all questions. This will cut 5 mins of force dialogue from the teacher and help us get through The GOAT fast. Afterwards, our friend tells us to follow them and brings us to a room. When we open the door to the room, it’s a Surprise Birthday Party and for the most part it’s the same as the original one, except this is where The Butch moment is added to show us how Karma works. We get the Pip Boy and now we learn how to shoot with Dad. After we get the photo taken, a Fast Forward happens to when Dad is missing and now we escape the Vault.
But you can skip the GOAT, tell the teacher to f-off before going in and you can pick you skills without the lecture.
I respect my elders
Fallout 3's intro is like... 5 minutes if you speed through it. The baby and toddler sections drag a little on repeat but everything else you can just skip and run straight through. Far better than Fallout 4's drowsy intro.
Everyone bringing up how you can skip the G.O.A.T. the despite the fact that doesn't fix anything, and it is still not skipping the questions since what he likely meant is not being able to speed through the dialogue that the player has listened to a painful number of times. And the option to skip it is something done by a character who is of evil karma, which immediately causes roleplaying to be hanged from a noose just for a little convenience.
The entire thing is a combat dungeon like every other one in the game. It is the fact that Fallout 3 is left with the tumor-like problem of the clunky introduction for the player.
Like. I love the intro for Fallout 3, but it is only good for about once or twice until it simply becomes annoying and a little patronizing. It is a perfect introduction for a new player who has never touched the game but besides that it is simply a slog.
You dont get evil karma from skipping the test, and you dont have to listen to the questions. Talk to brock before the test and hell allow you to skip it. That entire section can take literally 60 seconds if you talk to brock and skip the test…
I don’t like the motivation for leaving. Searching for a Father who has survival skills that far surpass our own is foolhardy.
New Vegas is even dumber. Wasteland mailmen know their job is risky. You get shot, you don’t sweat it. For no good reason, the courier gets a bug up his behind, and delivers vengeance instead of mail. Not for a second did hunting Benny down make a lick of sense.
Not to mention Luke Perry phoned in his Benny voiceover like his last name was rotary.
I remember you can skip the GOAT if you ask the dude
maybe having the kid start then going to the goat might have been better or just starting as an adult. and having it told to you by other npcs
Or get this - after being born the game says "skip intro - yes/no"
I have no idea how bethesda have released so many games in a row with terrible intros and have never worked out how to make a skip button
@@boblionia yeah that would work. but thats far to sensable for bethesda.
0:33 i raise you: heavy rain
Better than Fallout 4's intro.
Roleplaying "strickly" is why the G.O.A.T and Doc Mole butts phycology test are important.
Fallout 4's just signing your name and pressing left or right on a clipboard? Makes no sense to me.
How can a lawyer be soo bad at charisma, lacking in perception and dumb but yet be so strong and durable?
or
How can a Soulja Boi...
Okay you got me there.
At least in Fallout 3, whatever you did in the vault will be remembered when you come back like leaving some security alive. (I know that's not a lot for some people but it's something).
Fallout 4: You come back for a cryolator and to show your companion your dead spouse.
(Hey honey, look who I'm having sex with now.)
Preston Garvey/ Oh great another Soulja Boi.
Piper/ Nora: Oh so you do have a type/Nate: it's like I'm seeing double.
Curie: Same DNA and blood type yet french?
Cait/ Possible aids and diseases.
Paladin Danse: Oh great another Soulja boi and he's biologically compatible.
Hancock: Wait a minute, how would your spouse understand, sex with a Zombie.
Porter Gage: Possible aids and diseases.
Hey Shaun meet your new parents.p
You can skip the g.o.a.t.. I know because I've never been able to take g.o.a.t.. My game always glitches and dudeman won't start asking questions. So I have to walk up to him and tell him I don't want to take the g.o.a.t..
God of war 1 2 and 3 have the best intros ever
God tier intros. Thanks for watching!
"Fallout" 3 is a decent loot, shoot, and exploration game but a terrible RPG and Fallout game. "Fallout" 3 is only Fallout in name only, I don't hate "Fallout" 3 because it did at least lead to Fallout New Vegas the best game in the franchise but it really did throw out and destroy so much lore and also lead to "Fallout" 4 and 76, the worst games in the franchise in terms of being Fallout games. If "Fallout" 3 took place like 20 years after the nuclear war, the ruins of Washington DC would make sense instead of being a dump for the sake of having a bleak post nuclear look and atmosphere -_- also Bugthesda fanboys are way bigger incels than even the far right Neo Nazi morons who love New Vegas just to hate only hate on Bugthesda. There are many far right incel fanboys who love Liberty Prime and anti Chinese propaganda and Satire in Bugthesda's "Fallout" games LOL. This satire was done so much better in Obsidian's Fallout games.
Fallout: Brotherhood Of Steel was the worst in terms of being a Fallout game I would argue.
Just because a game is critically acclaimed doesn't mean its necessarily good 0:44
I like Fallout 3 but I don't like the intro, I prefered Fallout New Vegas who did way better as everythings you need is set up in one phase talking with Doc Mitchell instead of countless timeskips with overexposition and the character creation felt more natural granted you were shot in the head, and when you just got the essential stuffs you are on your own, free to explore the wastelands the way you feel like without being railroaded by the story telling you what to do and without any forced tutorials (yet that doesn't stop New Vegas to make pop ups in your first playthrough)
How did fallout 3 go from being the most love fallout game to hated
i was hoping you where going to talk about the Ron pearlman intro for Fo3 ngl, that intro is also horrible and nobody adresses it just because its well voice acted.
For the unitiated its literally just a worse rehash of the Fallout 1 intro since Fo3 in many ways was ment to be a re-introduction to the series for the goldfish gamers of the late 2000s, id encourage anyone to compare the two intros between games, Fo3's has absolutly to say besides the obbligatory "war never changes" it has no truline, it dosent introduce any themes wich will become relevant in the game. literally nothing is lost if you skip it.
If not for intro you can run striaght to the garage and basically beat the game in 10 mins speedrun tranquility lane, speedrun lil lamplight get the geck
The intro is fine for the first time around, just turned into a huge annoyance after that first time. Almost like Bethesda just does not understand that people will probably have multiple playthroughs of their games. Just makes me question Bethesdas ability to make games, almost like they can not change and better their stuff even with stuff like a games intro.
I think its god awful for a repeat playthrough but a first time playthrough not to bad and in some parts kind if necessary like the bobblehead you can find on your dads desk before the goat exam and to actually at least in small amounts connect the player to the father and make them kinda care about the main quest but i do think its still boring af and should be skip able especially after a first time playthrough without having to keep a save or use a mod
Prepare for hbomberguy fans to watch this
tbh I like Fallout 3 but I do have some issues like you said the intro but my main issue with it is mostly it pushing a story onto the character which might be a nitpick but I like how New Vegas did not really give you a story so you can choose which type of character you are, and my other issue is mostly just later but I thought the whole aliens in Fallout kinda ruined immersion a bit since it's post apocalyptic then just aliens randomly being there
Wait….so your telling me the one Bethesda game that doesn’t follow the Bethesda formula to the T. Is what bothers you? What the actual fuck? Every Bethesda game has the issue of not having a good main story fallout 3 does a decent job at alleviating that negative thing. But people like you just want Bethesda to focus on not providing a decent main story. I always will find it strange how people hate fallout 3 and criticize every little thing wrong with. But when it comes to fallout new Vegas and you criticize it. Everybody flips their shit, wines, and cries wild. I mean fallout new Vegas. Is only good because of its dlc if you take that away it’s just another mediocre Bethesda rpg game. Also fallout 3 helps new Vegas and provides game mechanics and concepts that are improved in it. God forbid say anything positive about fallout 3 tho.
@slick8232 ohhhh ok that makes more sense
This was my favorite intro of all the games
Is it tho?? 🤔
Yes
That’s the million dollar question……..probably not that bad but I don’t like it
It's kind of crazy to see the whiplash to fo3 over time. I remember my dad coming home with a random game he selecetd for the ps3 at the time and it was mesmorizing being thrust into a game that was fairly different then what we were use to seeing at the time and friends i kept in touch with also went on about how they liked it. Heck i remember 3 being liked over NV around the timeframe NV just dropped. Crazy to see how much things change.
I feel like a lot of people especially game reviewers simply never reach a real middle point between objective flaw and still being able to simply have fun with something. Yeah i had problems with 3 even back in the day like not being able to send fawkes in to save everybody because that was literally the obvious choice that saves everyone even to 10 year old me. The amount of reviews that are scared to give anything below a hard 7 without the mentality of it being utter garbage or grading parts of a game individually kind of reflects that in a way imo.
As for the intro itself i remember almost running out of bb ammo trying to hit that dang radroach. I think it would've been better of everything else was cut down until you take the goat as a canon thing vaultdwellers do upon becoming an adult so they can be assigned roles and then having liam neeson dad escape shortly afterwards.
For all the flaws of fo2 i believe in a match with the tribe warrior he tells you that not everyone can be talked down foreshadowing the fact that Frank will not back down as the final boss.
Yes! I remember at launch, New Vegas was seen as a major disappointment compared to 3. There’s a lot of revisionist history surrounding the two games. I don’t know when it became cool to hate on Fallout 3, but it’s definitely in style now. Thanks for watching!
@happygosunday What happened was that everyone grew up. Fallout 3 was largely popular with teens/young adults who are the ideal target audience for a game with great atmosphere and 0 depth. New Vegas only came out a few years later when these same people were still young and emotionally attached to Fallout 3.
Then people grew up and replayed both games and realised that Fallout 3 is great in a few ways but really lazily designed in every way other than the nice little environmental stories and that the quest design + writing could have been done just as well by a 12 year old, whereas New Vegas put all its eggs into the role-playing basket and focused on world design/cohesion, great quest and dialogue writing and having the only Bethesda game with an interesting main story.
The consumers of the video gane industry simply got older, growing out of the dumb sandbox and growing in to the idea of an actual RPG
+ FO3 was the first big 3d game of its kind that was developed in the west so it was always going to be recieved brilliantly. FNV was seen as a lazy copy on release which it was always going to be. But then in retrospect everyone can see the ways that FNV objectively improved on 3 and that helps remind you of all the ways FO3 was actually a super terrible game.
To clarify I love FO3, I put in over 1k hours back in the day and I had a recent save at around 130 hours.
Unfortunately I spent a huge amount of that playtime thinking about how NV did stuff better
Nostalgia is one hell of a drug
@@boblionia what kind? First person rpg with a big world kind? Let me introduce to this small franchise called “the elder scrolls” made by this no-name company called Bethesda Softworks, and their little game called Daggerfall.
Agree most of the intro is bad, I do find it kind of funny the thing with the goat and the security guard, I found out you could skip the goat pretty early so I never had to deal with that upon replays. I can’t specifically remember my first play through but In re plays I don’t think I’ve ever once killed that guard, he always just get distracted by the roaches, it’s funny how most videos I see annoyed with the intro mention him. now a days though I don’t even bother with the intro. I keep a save that’s right before you get to re do your character so my new games just start from that save
the best opening in Fallout for me is Fallout one second it is Fallout New Vegas. And the worst one for me has to be Fallout 4 and second Fallout 76. Fallout 3 intro for me is in the middle it does drag but it's not like Fallout 4.
mans is just hating
Oof that’s certainly an opinion
Fallout 3 isn't that bad I've always just been more of a Fallout New Vegas fan
I also hate all of the Bethesda game intros, they're way too long and get worse with each subsequent playthrough.
Idk man. I kind of lost interest when you said Skyrim intro sucked? Like how do i respect an opinion after that.
It does suck tho.
Crazy fallout 3 was my favorite 💀 the intro was the best for me too
Blasphamy skyrim has a great intro maybe not as good as RDR 1 n 2 or Mass effect 2s but it's not bad.
I edge to the fallout 3 intro
I'm pretty sure that everyone who has ever played this game shares the opinion that this intro is absolutely awful. You are not crazy in the slightest lmao.
I think the worst part is the birthday
Why?
@erdood3235 I think it is because it is overly long for nothing if it was like 2 minutes then you went down then it would be OK.
@@erdood3235because you can’t shoot Butch with the bb gun
Best Fallout intro? Goes to the best Fallout game. Fallout 2 baby!
fallot 2 intro i too long... 🙄
I prescribe to you one hour of kiting ants with occasional kick thrown in.
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bethesda games post morrowind seem to have a honeymoon phase where everyone thinks there the greatest thing there ever was and spend 100s of hours playing them then they get burnt out on them and start to look at the games more critically until a sort of synthesis of nitpicks and critque is reached where hour long essays explode onto the scene putting words to what most people feel but dont know how to articulate correctly
I only gotten into Fallout a few years ago, and I did try and play 3 once. I got up to Megaton before dropping the game, so pretty much just the intro lol. The intro just didn’t do it for me, and nothing in Megaton hooked me either. So yeah, as a newer Fallout fan I’d have to agree the intros not that great lol. Especially when compared to later games, I think while still slow 4 has a much better hook and gets to the action much faster. But still I should probably try and give 3 another go, it’s been a few years now and I’ve played a lot more games in the series now.
Definitely give it a go. I’m a huge Fo4 fan, and I’ve played the other 3D Fallout, and 3 strikes me as the right kind of gritty, and dirty, and unsettling. Plus, the map is huge. Double the others. The gun play feels dated, there’s no ADS, so you might want to go VATS.
you can skip the test if you talk to the teacher and they dont leave the vault cause they are scared thats canon the intro isnt bad but it does have bad pacing i agree 4 timeskips is too mna
This is truly neat!
FALLOUT NEW VEGAS FANBOY!
Guilty
It's the best one guys 🤓
It unironically is :D unless you like Bugthesda's "Fallout" 4 Settlements or "Fallout" 76 Bugfest@@MeepMacArthur
@@MeepMacArthur this, but unironically
You can prove us that fo3’s intro is way better than NV one by deleting your save before the exit door.
Nope i liked it and im not watching the vid to the end
Lol
Disagree
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Holy crap it's the guy