@sports person Same here. He was a great driver - had the talent for multiple world championships were he not paired with one of the best drivers ever. He was very competitive in 14', which I think people forget - and he was able to get his own championship in 2016; and with what he had to do to win - probably the most satisfying championship in a long time
I'll argee to dis agree.. Why would it bother him?He cares about things he can control, not things he cant. Rosburg has only won once. Even in the lower categories Rosburg couldn't beat him, Therefore ,there is nothing left unanswered for it to bother hamilton. Its not like it was 2-2 for e.g. Over all LH has proven Rosburg cant handle the pressure hence why he left as soon as he won ,by only 5 points may I add, Even with all the mistakes he made at the starts. If anything that should bother Rosburg more rather than hamilton because out of all these years of competiting against him ,he only managed to do it once and then left.🤷♂️.
Lewis was asked in an interview if reliability had cost him title and he replied “you could say that but you could also say it was because I made 4 bad starts” People forget this
Overall Nico had more reliability issues than Lewis. In 2014 Nico had 3 such issues. Lewis 2. In 2015, Nico had 2, Lewis had 1. In 2016, Nico had 0, Lewis had 1. Still Nico suffered more.
@@aabhasamol4756 in 2014 and 2015, lewis won by such a margin that the difference in reliability issues wouldnt have mattered. in 2016, rosberg won by such a slim margin that malaysia was enough to change everything
@ostentatious they were both in contention for the championship in 2014 at the last race. Nico's car had electrical failures, although he still carried on to finish...
@@oransjball rewatch the 2017 & 2018 seasons. In 2017, Mercedes had a clear qualifying advantage (party mode..) but Ferrari had a huge race pace advantage. In 2018, the Ferrari & Mercedes were on par most of the season, some tracks suiting one car more.
I think we all now appreciate just how amazing Nico Rosberg was. I feel like because he and Lewis grew up racing together, they both knew each other extremely well. Because of that, Nico knew what made Lewis tick and found a way to get under his skin. That 2016 championship had many turning points and swings in the championship lead. Some will say Nico won fair and square. Others will say Lewis should have won. Ultimately, unexpected events always emerge over the course of a season and Rosberg prevailed in the end. I’m sure Lewis looks back and regrets a lot of things but he’s a champion. He hates to lose. That’s why he has evolved to this point where he’s pretty much unstoppable. He will never let a ‘2016’ happen ever again. Nico did the best thing by retiring while on top because there’s no way he’d beat this version of Lewis Hamilton.
sports person that’s so vague, I could say Mercedes messed up Hamilton’s strategy in Australia to lose him the race in Australia but it’s pointless to say because anything could still happen. Are you also saying Vettel chose a dry setup for Italy because then that would be his fault.
@sports person Singapore doesn't count because it was his own fault. Safety car things are pretty much just part of racing, we don't really ever look at that to be honest. Set up decisions are exactly that, a decision. You choose to make that gamble. I dont remember the exact details of that weekend, but if you are implying he had a dry setup whilst the rest had a wet one, its probably still his fault considering he couldn't win the race despite having a dry track and a dry setup whilst the rest were on wet setups in a wet race. That just leaves the Malaysia and Japan. He would have needed to win one of those races and and finish second in the other. Reliabilty also tends to be a comparison between teammates more then other teams, due the nature of differing equipment. I believe Kimi had engine problems all season too (unless i'm remembering it wrong) so its fair to say that Ferrari engine was not so reliable. If Vettel had 50% more engine issues then Kimi then yes, I'd agree he got unlucky that season (Its just overshadowed by how staggeringly stupid some of his mistakes were)
Lewis changed his diet in 2017. I remember him saying he even changed his approach to qualifying after last season. Overall he seems so much more focused than he was 2016 and prior. The complete driver now and my GOAT.
It is said he even opted to remove the drink mechanism in the car to save weight. Dunno how true so doubtful but wouldn't be surprised with how out of breath he tends to sound in team radios.
Rosberg needed to cut out all distractions in his life, Lewis’s mechanics, Lewis’s car randomly failing to finish more than usual, and racing as well as he could to win. It almost killed him in terms of stress and now he’s living his best married dad life. I wasn’t a fan but I respect his choices.
Regarding car "randomly failing", well, it is drivers responsibility to properly shakedown faults in testing and look after the car with mechanical sympathy, as Rosberg is engineering minded, he understood mechanical sympathy.
Mark Freeman Hamilton will always turn the car down when he needs to. You shouldn’t blame the driver at all for multiple engine failures out of his control.
@@tensevo Hamilton has the best/near best career reliability rate of all modern era drivers, including Rosberg, so he knows how to look after his equipment. Rosberg had slightly worse reliability than Hamilton in 2013, so applying your logic, it was Rosberg's fault and he lacked mechanical sympathy
To be beat Lewis in the Championship by just 5 points in 2016, Rosberg had to... - be given Lewis's Engineers - receive regular Counselling & Coaching (his own admission) - have Lewis be handicapped, by him being the "only" driver with a Mercedes engine to suffer MULTIPLE Engine Problems! - do a Runner, claiming he's had enough of F1 & wanted to spend time with his family (yet he's STILL creeping around f1 like a nomadic cockroach, bitching about Lewis at every opportunity) FINALLY... the Late Great Nikki Lauda let the cat out of the bag when he blew a gasket, fuming when asked for his thoughts on Rosberg running off ... "I'm disappointed & angry, because we gave Nico the Championship & this is how he repays us!" BINGO!!! - Lauda confirmed what WE all saw for ourselves . . . Rosberg was gifted the 2016 Championship!!! . . . And with all that help, he still struggled to beat Lewis by "just" 5 points! So to those that say, put anyone in a Mercedes and they would win, I suggest you reflect on what it took for Rosberg to beat Lewis in the best car, with All the Assistance & TLC! - he did a runner, like the Coward he is!
@@catherinemorgan7836 Grow up, just accept that hamilton lost by 5 points, no matter how much you bitch about it, Rosberg will and forever will be a world champion.
@@Stuffry - nobody could ever accuse YOU of being delusional, ignoring all the FACTS! 🤣🤣🤣 Of course Rosberg is a WC, but the manner in which he won will always be cheapened! As Nikki Lauda said when asked about Rosberg's Astonishing knee-jerk Retirement (in his own words) .... "I'm disappointed & angry, WE gave Nico the Championship & this is how he repays us!" I somehow think, that I'm more inclined to take the thoughts & knowledge of a well respected, PROFESSIONAL, 3 time World Champion, over an insignificant "delusional fanatic", trying & failing miserably to "mimic" basic human intelligence! 😝 😜 🤤
@@catherinemorgan7836 "BINGO!!! - Lauda confirmed what WE all saw for ourselves . . . Rosberg was gifted the 2016 Championship!!!" uhh no, don´t try to make up on Lauda´s words. you know that Mercedes wasn´t just Rosberg and Hamilton working on their own right? that´s all he meant.
@@catherinemorgan7836 Damn. It's quite obvious that F1 fans are the worst when it comes to just acknowledgeding the skill of drivers they personally dislike but that's just.... Oof
The fact that Lewis had so many bad starts in 2016 and that failure in Malaysia and only finish 5 points behind Nico shows what an unbelievable driver he is. He learnt his lesson after that loss and stepped his game up. Came back stronger, became more complete and nearly flawless. One of the greatest F1 drivers ever.
TBH that failure in Malasia was the tip of the iceberg. Rosberg had near bulletproof reliability that season wheras Hamilton had 4 mechanical issues in the first 8 races. By comparison Rosberg had about 3 all season. At the end of the season Hamilton knew that if he had been better prepared for the early races, made better starts or not slowed down at the end of the previous season he would have won dispite his bad luck. Since then he has improved in those areas and he works hard to get the best result at every opportunity and mitigates his errors so that he doesn't need to worry about bad luck.
The hate this man gets kind of annoys me. I am not even a big Hamilton fan, but I dont know how people see anything bad out of this guy. He drives his heart off and is a good person off the track. Maybe sometimes the competitiveness comes out, but I do not think any of his confidence or arrogance is genuine.
@@tensevo yeah thats completely not true. Most of his L's he takes due to penalties and shit. Obvious any competitive person is gonna get irritated and clarify what they did wrong.
Lewis said that he was not surprised by Nico's retirement. “The sport will miss him, but I wish him all the best," Hamilton said. "I’m sure it was a surprise to many people. I’m probably one of the many people that it was not a surprise for, but that’s because I’ve known him for a long, long time. But this is motor racing. "This is the first time he's won in 18 years, hence why it was not a surprise that he decided to stop."
@@shro8605 a faster ferrari in 2018... hahahahahahahahahahah what a fucking joke a faster ferrari?! the merc has been the fastest car on the grid since 2014
A little off-topic, but shoutout to FLoz for creating the "Silver War" documentaries and *capturing* the tension the Mercedes rivalry *SO* well! Also, got to give you credit for *emphasizing* Hamilton's bad starts. In fact, iirc, Rosberg used that to his advantage BIG TIME by changing his exercise routine, specifically his leg muscles, to give him the edge in race starts! The extra boost also seemed to have irked Lewis as he wanted to know where that extra *little bit* of performance came from. Edit: Found out where I found this information. It was from the Beyond the Grid podcast. The leg muscle thing is half-true; it did help him gain lap times, but it was Nico redesigning the *gloves* he was wearing that gained him the edge in the starts! INCREDIBLE how detailed he was with very much *everything* when he raced against Lewis.
Respect to Nico - there isn't one driver who doesn't deserve a world crown - even in a dominant car (Mansell 92, Prost 93,Vettel @ RB etc.) - titles are not gifted. Nico really had to dig deep and despite a couple of DNFs for Lewis , no one should belittle his achievement - if anything that year raised both their stock values.
@@nassaubahamas5494 Button outscored Rubens 64-41 at Honda. Qualifying was 50/50. In a very bad car Rubens won in 2008 but like Kvyat in 2015 and Coulthard in 1997...wins in such cars should not be exaggerated. Button had far more wins and poles in 2009. In 2006-2007 when the Honda was kinda decent Button outscored him 61-30. Rubens became formidable in the winter of 2004. He was dedicated to beating Schumacher. He failed, but had a far better season than Irvine ever had against a healthy Michael. His points ratio of 79% was similar to Brundles in 1992. This was a better Michael with a masterful team on his grips. Rubens tied Piquets 1987 record of 7 2nd places whilst Michael had 13 wins. Rubens was beat by Brundle in 1994 but was faster over one lap. By 1996 he easily outpointed the skilled veteran, but had less one lap pace. Irvine was 9 years older than Rubens and Martin 16...this enabled them to get in the youngsters head. Martin only lost in both qualifying and points over a season to Hakkinen and Schumacher...Belloff I'm not sure. Rubens also bested a rookie Hulkenberg easily despite the talented youths excellent pole...in a weak Williams. What Nico did to Palmer and Gutierrez is well established.. as is his moderate beating at the hands of Perez and Ricciardo. Button was less able to adapt to his cars declining characteristics like Michael in 2000. Unlike Michael there was no enormous budget to reestablish the cars superiority. Crazy Yankee documented how in 2000 Rubens seemed to step up when Michael had a bad lull. Buttons lull was the entire final 40% of the season. A combination of nerves and a huge lead seemed to upset Jensons performance. However, purported bad luck or not Rubens would never start a season like Jenson did in 2009. Nor would he have done quite as well at McLaren vs. Lewis. Bottas and Sainz have been outperformed by their teammates this year ,but poorer luck has exaggerated the gap.
@@nassaubahamas5494 He was 8 points better. Stalling the engine isn't luck anymore than Buttons bad starts. Barichello was 8 points better over 60% of the season....Button 26 points over 40%
@P. G.M Ferrari had the best car in 2018, Hamilton drove well-give credit where it's due www.gpfans.com/en/articles/2673/ferrari-has-the-best-car-but-not-the-best-driver/
As someone who has only been watching since 2016, this was a great video to watch. I think it really speaks to just how good Vettel was driving in 2017 that he was able to match/beat Lewis for most of the season as well as to how good Valterri is doing right now to be as close as he is.
Great video. Having to fight another team in 17 and 18 also helped Lewis raise his game! He really felt like the whole team was behind him! He was so much more complete as a racer, he would have been world champion driving the Mercedes or the Ferrari in 17 and 2018!
Although Hamilton’s results seem so consistent, the competition is not very far behind. His win is based on the efforts of a team, accumulatively. I feel proud for him and congrats to his team. Your commentary on the events was very comprehensive. Thank you.
Seeing the perfectionist that Lewis is now, I completely forgot how many times he bottled it in the past, especially in 2016 with his awful starts, geeez. He definitely made it his life's mission to improve after Nico defeated him.
Nico knew and Alanso knew that if they stick around lewis was out for vengeance! Yeah Bottas is going against this perfect AI and people shame him for not being super human.
I personally think there was some fishy stuff going on in that Merc garage in the 2016 season. Something about how the entire thing went down feels off. It felt as if Nico knew he was going to win and leave. There was a youtube documentary about that year and some decisions Merc management made had me scratching my head asking why?
I think so too. He was hamstrung by his many poor starts and I suspect it's not entirely down to his mistakes, but maybe the way his start procedures setup by Nico's previous mechanics who were then working with Lewis. I mean how often has he lost his positions prior to 2016. Maybe that was what he intimated, when prompted only promising to reveal after his retirement.
@Samanthaflower You should race Nico. 10 seconds after he crosses the line paint balloons start falling on the finish area😂. 2011 is the only season where Lewis was truly defeated(12 podiums to 6) ;but Rosberg was 97% as good in 2016: and that's all he needed. 97% of an arguable GOAT make Rosberg an all time great. Other than in the Monaco pole in 2014, Rosbergs aggression hindered him. Nico admits he can't drive grey as well as Lewis...just goes into black. Austria 2016.... certainly didn't help Nico. In terms of conspiracy, did Vettel run into Nico on purpose at Malaysia? Lol. Strange how someone so good at Monaco in an incredibly dominant car finishes 6th in 2016. The team said it's a mystery....? Conspiracy theories betray a lack of honesty and imagination.
If Mercedes were going to hand Rosberg a title and let him retire. Why wait 3 fucking years to do it? This weird conspiracy that the entire team let Hamilton lose is absurd. Were it true, somebody would've gone to the news companies with evidence and sold the story for MILLIONS. the fact that this hasn't happened yet and not a whiff of it has come near kinda shows that sometimes drivers get unlucky, mechanics make mistakes, drivers make mistakes. Hamilton is not a god, he's just a good driver. He can, and did, lose to Rosberg, legally.
I’ve seen & heard people say “Lewis has no competition.” Truth is he IS the competition. He’s the benchmark. Let that sink in for a second. The dude is so ridiculously good, he’s the standard for everyone else to strive for. That’s nuts. It’s not that there is no competition, or that there are no good/great drivers he’s racing against. He’s just THAT much better than everyone else at the moment. And more importantly he’s found a way to sustain this high ass level of competing. Unreal....
It actually is the best thing that happened to him. Since then he has been driven to be the undisputed best on the grid right now and he is because since 2016 he has won every title for three years in a row. He has made sure a 2016 season would never happen again.
lewis would still have won every title since 2016, but yes the loss may have motivated him. The loss was mainly due to that massive loss of points when Lewis' engine blew in Malaysia, but I think he had a lot of bad race starts that year which cost him some points, falling back as the starts were slow..... and yes you have just mentioned them as I am watching.
They complete each other in different ways. Nico’s claim to fame is he beat Lewis for the 2016 championship with the resulting consequent, the permanent imprint of Lewis in his memory since childhood carting. For Lewis, Nico propelled him to GOAT.
@Aldas While I agree with your general sentiment, it must be made clear Nico wasn't exactly sublime that season. He was more inconsistent than lewis and lost loads of points. Monaco was horrific. He had a bad start in canada and spun later on trying to overtake max. In Germany, he had a terrible start dropping from 2nd to 4th before the first corner. The similar happened in hungary, from 1st to 3rd. I say this, not to disprove your point but to make clear mercedes had a very temperamental clutch that year. Maybe it was toto speech to protect his drivers, but both had terrible starts at different points during the season. Using that as evidence to show lewis' underperformance is inaccurate and unfair. Secondly, Malaysia was merely the final nail in the coffin for lewis' championship. fedeoasi.com/2017/06/18/f1-quali.html
Monaco was a track Nico excelled at. He would either have to drive horribly on purpose or Mercedes never found the problem. I don't believe either driver was sabotaged. They tried hard for both drivers but would naturally slightly favour the more spectacular driver. Lewis was box office said Lauda. Some people even argue Lewis won in 2011. That's a lot of sabotage to explain that. McLaren was just screwed up for both Brits. No one argues that Jenson or Nico are GOATS and usually mention their victories to poke at Lewis. I believe they are all time greats who tested an arguable GOAT to his limit. I put Lewis 3rd ahead of Prost, Senna and Schumacher. Both Lewis's most challenging teammates after 2007 lost to very good but not great drivers in a crappy Williams as rookies. One rose to brilliance at BAR before his team crumbled. The other at Mercedes until an even more talented teammate seemingly spoiled his dream...but it was only delayed until 2016. Both decisively beat world champions in decline. Lewis is sent to 10th due to a technical problem in qualifying and finishes 7th. Nico is run into by Vettel and finishes 3rd in a damaged car. Lewis was ahead by 20 points halfway through his 2016 season. Racepace is interesting. Stroll was 2 seconds behind Massa at Australia in 2017 but only was outscored 43-40. You would think such a derided pay driver would be scalped like Palmer or Gutierrez. The only race Massa missed ...Stroll didn't do much...besides being easily faster than a rusty Diresta. Yes, the Canuck had a fortunate podium but kept his car on the track. Massa nearly equaled Lewis with more DNFs in 2008 but was skunked by Alonso. However, he did well against Kimi in 2007 and beat him in 2008. Massa did worse than Fisichella did against Alonso. Yet Kovalainen beat an only 32 year old Giancarlo with equal racepace and superior qualifying. Yet Heikke was the worst of Hamiltons teammates at racepace. He was like Bottas at Monza this year for 65% of the races in 2008-2009. The races where he did well Hamilton did poorly so the cars couldn't be used strategically. Much like RedBull from late 2018 onwards. For 18 of 19 races in 2011 Button averaged only 0.08 seconds slower than Lewis on Saturday yet barely edged Perez in 2013. Perez was only 0.07 seconds slower than the tall Nico in 2016. In his second year at Renault Hulkenberg became King of the Midfield. Ricciardo was only 0.07 seconds faster but decently outscored him which makes you think the Honey Badger would outscore Palmer 100-0 This was Nicos team (but like Rosberg in 2013) a name driver sort of makes it his team his first season with them. Ricciardo was no exception to that rule.
You seem to forget that out of 8 Mercedes Benz driver he was the only one with multiply engine failure. Including back to back failures during qualifying that made him start from last...it was not just Malaysia.
And Rosberg had gearbox and suspension failures which Lewis didn't have. Rosberg was also hit with several driver penalties by the stewards which wouldn't have been penalties today. So don't be so blinkered.
The gear box didn't stop him from finishing the race. By the time they got to spa lewis started at the back of the field with Fernando because they both ran out of engines...i don't remember nico starting at the back of the field 3 times because of engines. I don't remember him staring at the back of the field at all that season
@@ligerhavok6758 In the Maylasia race he was last by turn 3 because of a punt by Bottas. And for those races where after Spa, Lewis had an engine advantage over Rosberg. Like I say, swings and roundabouts. Rosberg won because he did a better job.
Huh....Malaysia.....in Malaysia with 15 laps to go while leading the race the supposed engine advantage (brand new engine after spa penalties) blew up again. That was 25 points gone. Nico won Championship by 5 points. D .riccardi 25 m. Vestapen 18 N.Rosberg 15. How do you mention Malaysia and forget what happened at the end..remember u mentioned Malaysia..i would have mention lewis 5 blown starts and not taking nico seriously or seeing him as a real threat. Still only 5 points in the end.. doesn't seem very dominating..seems lucky. Only Mercedes driver that year with ANY engine failure. He had 3 at key moments..especially at Malaysia.
@@ligerhavok6758 Yes, you mention this 5 points. That's because Rosberg played the long game. If you win by 1/2 a point or 100 points, there is no extra prize. Bottom line he had to look after his car and do what he needed to do to win. He did and he won. You have no idea how seriously Lewis did or didn't take Nico. Sounds to me like you're just making up excuses to fit your narrative.
Rosberg's retirement will always allow us to speculate: what if he actually ran from 2017? I have never been a Rosberg fan (and even though I've watched your video on why he's underrated, Aldas, I still can't see him as an excellent driver; for me, he's always been, like, medium to good at best), but who knows, maybe he could have won a second or even third championship.
Having 2 number 1 drivers on a team has never worked in the history. Senna Prost, vettel richardo, richardo verstappen, alonso hamilton, it goes on and on.
I don't know who you are mate. But you're bang on here. Losing to Rosberg has been the best thing that has happened to Hamilton as a racing driver. I've been the saying the same thing since 2017. Rosberg wouldn't have beaten Hamilton in 2016, post 2016.
It’s also important to remember in 2016 , not just the bad starts that cost Hamilton the championship, Lewis had engine and gear box issues or reliability issues... by far of both Mercedes cars and customer cars , but he won 10 races to Nico,s 9 ..nico took himself to a very dark place to win the 2016 championship.. he was lucky & fortunate at the same time . Not in Hamilton’s league.
Lewis was a winning machine before the 2016 loss. Toto confirmed that nothing about 2016 really changed Lewis' approach. He was already in his current phase by 2016.
I think you fail to realise Nico and Lewis have been basically racing eachother their whole life. Nico needs more credit, he knew how to push Lewis' buttons. It wasnt just Lewis making mistakes - Nico forced those mistakes
To be beat Lewis in the Championship by just 5 points in 2016, Rosberg had to... - be given Lewis's Engineers - receive regular Counselling & Coaching (his own admission) - have Lewis be handicapped, by him being the "only" driver with a Mercedes engine to suffer MULTIPLE Engine Problems! - do a Runner, claiming he's had enough of F1 & wanted to spend time with his family (yet he's STILL creeping around f1 like a nomadic cockroach, bitching about Lewis at every opportunity) FINALLY... the Late Great Nikki Lauda let the cat out of the bag when he blew a gasket, fuming when asked for his thoughts on Rosberg running off ... "I'm disappointed & angry, because we gave Nico the Championship & this is how he repays us!" BINGO!!! - Lauda confirmed what WE all saw for ourselves . . . Rosberg was gifted the 2016 Championship!!! . . . And with all that help, he still struggled to beat Lewis by "just" 5 points! So to those that say, put anyone in a Mercedes and they would win, I suggest you reflect on what it took for Rosberg to beat Lewis in the best car, with All the Assistance & TLC! - he did a runner, like the Coward he is!
@@catherinemorgan7836 As a Lewis fan, as you said Nico had to do absolutely everything right and give all that he had in order to become the 2016 world champion, which burnt him down so much he decided to retire. As its said un the video, Lewis was actually quite bad in starts and Nico always got the most benefit from those mistakes which together with Lewis DNF at Malaysia was the key to that championship. It was dissapointing that he lost that championship by a really small margin and its also dissapointing that he couldn't fight back against Nico, but in my opinion its disrespectful to say that a driver who gave it all was gifted such an achievement.
I agree. It’s the loss that made him try harder. He wanted a rematch. But rosberg had enough. (Respect his choice to leave) And Lewis have build so many records in that place. And he found a grove to keep improving. If rosberg and Hamilton were fighting in 2018 with Ferrari right behind - that would have been damaging.
Great content. I've always maintained that no one on the current grid would ever challenge Lewis Hamilton like Nico Rosberg!! (Except Max). Also you're right, I feel like if Nico Rosberg didn't retire, then he would have taken away a lot of wins & poles and maybe even a championship (2020/21) if Hamilton has similar luck to 2016 with Max always bothering
I think Rosberg was the smarter driver, especially that 2016 season, but Lewis learned from that and is now one of the smartest of all time. Nico played mind games on Lewis and knew his car better. That being said I think Lewis was, and still is, a better driver overall, but that season Nico had the upper hand. I hope one day we know what really happened behind the scenes that season, and I think when people know that they will appreciate both Nico and Lewis a lot more
@Zani Della Nico being "smarter" doesn't hold up to scrutiny. In 2014, mercedes gave him a comprehensive dossier, showing how Hamilton managed to save fuel while lapping faster. There's been countless instances of Rosberg requesting Lewis' setup during the races. It was the primary driving force behind the radio ban, because it was suggested drivers were being overly assisted by their engineers and weren't driving unaided as per the regulations.
ye great video aldas gotta look at LH in 2016 when he said he didn't care abt winning or losing the race because he was going to lose the championship, compared to now where he's absolutely gutted if he doesnt come first no matter what the situation even if he started last.
After 2016 Hamilton definitely was a different person and improved his mental strength a lot. Also worth noting that Hamilton had the most wins (10) in 2016 and still lost to Rosberg (9). Consistency is key.
People say that Malaysia was the deciding point of the 2016 championship. I have a little something to say about that. Yeah, while Lewis's engine blowing up did cost him some points, Rosberg was punted off by Vettel into turn 1 and made an incredible comeback, and most people are overshadowing that with Lewis's engine blowing up. If Hamilton had won Malaysia 2016, Rosberg would have been pushing alot harder in the last 4 races because after winning in Japan, Rosberg knew that he only needed 2nd place in the last 4 races to win the championship. No matter if Lewis won the remaining 4 races, Rosberg was gonna be world champion no matter what.
People are too subjective and superficial, they try to resume everything at ,,if” moments in Hamilton s favour in order to make him look better and competitive, especially his fans who hide his weaknesses behind moments like Malaysia 2016. To be honest too many times Hamilton had luck, especially since 2014 on, any top driver at that time could have done as good as him, just check out Russell in sakhir 2020.
Ultimately, it was the reliability that cost him the title. Its not even the Malyasia DNF, he had a bunch of issues at the start of the season that were causing him to start at the back, and then took an engine penalty because of those + the Malyasia blowout. Any of those dont happen, his champion. HOWEVER. He realised that despite the fact he got screwed by bad luck, if he had driven perfect, he would have won the title. So he made sure to do everything in his power to make sure he would never lose a title due to bad luck again.
No way of telling, Max is in a bad and unreliable Red Bull. Put Max in the Merc and give him a year or two to adjust and I'm sure we'd get to see who's better.
I rewatched the 2016 season during lockdown and I had completely forgotten how terrible some of Hamilton's starts were. It always bugged me when people said that Nico only won because of Hamilton's engine issues. But now remembering all the issues he had that were his fault it really bothers me. Also, essentially all the races that Nico won, he completely ran away with. No one could even challenge him other than Ricciardo catching him on fresh tires at the end of Singapore when Nico's were done for.
That Singapore drive from Nico is probably his best win ever because had he lost that win, it will make Mercedes look stupid and also made Rosberg lost that championship. So the fact he was able to hold off Ricciardo who's on fresh tyres catching at a rate of knots, that says you a lot about how strong the man is mentally that season
@@motorsportfanboy7769 I agree. That race and Malaysia for Nico were insane. Everyone always talks about how Hamilton had the engine failure there, but always seem to forget that Nico was punted off at turn one, fell to dead last, and came back to finish 3rd. It was an incredible drive from him, yet it gets overshadowed. Yes, he was in the best car, but watching him go through the field like that was still amazing.
Sarah Wolf Yeah we kinda forgot his storming drive at Malaysia due to the fact it got overshadowed by Lewis’ engine failure and his move on Kimi to get that final podium spot is ballsy as hell. I still don’t agree with the fact FIA gave him a penalty for that (luckily it didn’t have an affect on the final result)
@@motorsportfanboy7769 I don't think he should have been penalized either. Moves like that are what I miss about him. He was not afraid to do something that might seem insane. I would rather watch an outcome like Spain that year than see them just drive away at the front but not battle once after the first lap.
Sarah Wolf Yeah we always think Rosberg is this very analytical guy which is probably why we never remember him for moves like those but at least people now realize how good he is since he retired
Do you think he's stepped up his game or do you think he's simply under less pressure from Bottas and therefore isn't forced into mistakes? Remember Rosberg had a few years with Schumacher who played head games on Rosberg. Rosberg used all the same tricks against Hamilton and got into his head during 2016. Something I don't think Hamilton had ever experienced before. Bottas refuses to go that far to win and that's why he stands no chance against Hamilton. This is why I want to see another team on the Merc pace all season with strong drivers that can properly challenge, I think the errors would start creeping back in if he was put under pressure.
People should stop comparing Rosberg to Bottas. Because from 2014 - 2016 the Mercedes was way stronger than the rest of the field, so basically if Nico beat Lewis on one weekend it meant he won the race, but if Bottas beat Lewis, he had to beat Vettel, Leclerc and Verstappen aswell because the Mercedes in 2017 - 2019 was still dominant but not that much faster than the rest like in 2014-2016. So obviously Bottas Numbers are affected by that compared to Rosbergs... And I also think that Lewis has become even stronger since 2016, because he learnt his lesson after losing to Nico.... Lewis literally made no mistakes for 2 years straight and that was the reason he beat Vettel in 2017 and 2018 So Bottas probably had it even harder, fighting against an even stronger Lewis Hamilton...
They have been way stronger than the rest of the field for the entirety of the Turbo Hybrid Era. So really what difference does it make. Honestly it really doesn't matter what Vettel and Ferrari did in 17 and 18 because neither were consistent enough throughout the entire season. That's like giving Borussia Dortmund a pat on the back for challenging Bayern Munich for 2/3 of the season and falling off the cliff for the last third of it. In other words where it actually matters most. Roseberg wouldn't have never finished miles off Vettel in both seasons like Bottas somehow managed to. I believe he would finished behind him but not by very much. The other too is Rosberg without question wins a lot of more races. I dare say possibly even double the amount Bottas has his whole 4 years in Mercedes.
Talia Mason Like I said, I’m not saying that Bottas is better than Rosberg. What I’m saying is that Bottas is definitely facing a even stronger than Lewis, so that comparison is kinda unfair. Also the 2014-2016 Merc was just different, literally every race was a Merc 1-2 In 2017-2019 Ferrari and Red Bull was in the mix
Why give credit to Rosberg for Lewis's success? With all due respect he ran away!! I think people do not want to give Hamilton credit for his skills. Oh, he has a good car!! Oh, his team mate is weak. Oh, blah blah blah. Now when you are not bashing Lewis, you use his name to promote another driver!! Please man just give credit to a brilliant racer and wish him more world championships
Honestly I don’t think Nico would’ve stood a chance against Lewis if he’d stayed. He’d have done better than Valtteri but wouldn’t have pushed him any harder than Seb did. Not only has Lewis found another gear since 2016, but Nico also had to make insane off-track sacrifices that year in order to maximise his performance, and maintaining that level for another year would’ve been a tall order.
Huge question marks over the relative reliability of the two cars over the course of a season. Basically a deal was made I think within the team. The fact that Rosberg immediately retired strongly suggests that he didn't expect to do so well the next year. Hardly the actions of a valiant new champion eager to defend his title. Hamilton had to beat his team and Rosberg.
I absolutely agree with you Lewis needed that kick after losing to Rosberg with all those pole bad starts and a couple DNF really made him think and re-evaluate his starts and his on track racing but thanks to Rosberg Lewis became a different animal the best F1 driver of all time in all conditions as well in my opinion
Because Nico is a better driver better with fans better at PR and media and was and still is just a better person. Hamilton felt a threat with nico and absolutely forced merc not to sign him. That's why Valtrie is there he hasn't until recently started to ask why everything goes Lewis way. Put another WC as his team mate that isn't called a number 2 and Hamilton will crumble.
If I was Hamilton, I would wanna have at least one more serious fight for a championship again before retiring. Lobby for Max to go to Mercedes, get your challenge, and lets see what happens
I think the Hamilton and Rosberg situation is very similar to the Ricciardo and Verstappen situation. I don't think we ever truly appreciated how good Ricciardo was until we saw the quality of Verstappen compared to others in the same car besides Ricciardo, especially Gasly and somewhat Albon. I think it's the same thing with Bottas now, he's really very good, but he's up against the best in the world, where it's hard to absolutely shine.
I think losing to ROS made him undertsand the true value of scoring points in every single race, yes he lost out in the champiosnhip due to the unreliability, but only if he hadnt crashed on the opening lap in china, or understood his steering setting in Aze, or got a better start at suzuka or any of the other bad starts he could have won that championship, which brought out this Prost like behaviour in him which honestly makes him as close to the most complete drivers the sport has ever seen (only the unnecessary complainig and victim complex take away from that). One thing that is sure is every championship he won after ROS makes ROS' acheivement even more greater.
Unfortunately, your words are resoundingly true. Losing to nico, while painful, was the best thing to happen to lewis. Never again would he allow an inferior drive to beat him while not maximizing every given opportunity on track. Being good wasn't good enough, neither was being great - only perfection would suffice. Since then, he tests more, often completes the most laps/distance in pre-season. Also spends much more time at the factory and race debriefs. Nothing is left up to chance. Everything is scrutinised. That said, and we've been over this - all drivers complain, Hamilton is no different. Unsure why this bothers you more than others. Ought to look into that. Might want to reconsider your stance on him "crashing" in china. th-cam.com/video/659F52-ClGk/w-d-xo.html He was hit by Felipe Nasr which dislodged his front wing. The question is why did he start dead last with ostensibly the fastest car on track. Most view 2016 as the championship lewis lost to nico. I look at it as the championship nico almost squandered. If lewis had nico reliability, I bet my house he wouldn't have won by only 5 points.
@@Bahamuttiamat Well here we go again, I dont know why you went on that rant about perfection but i pretty much already agreed with you on that. I woudnt call Ros an inferior driver, because the effort he put in to that 2016 season was honestly nothing short of phenomenal, while Ham was partying away after he won his 3rd championship, and his technical knowledge of the car and its starting system proved to be quite crucial in those early races, you could call him a driver that didnt quite have Ham's natural ability. Yes every driver complains but im not comparing every driver to the most complete driver the sport has ever seen, when you talk complete driver you unavoidably have to compare with MSC as he was simply the best and there is 1 particular inident that we can compare at the same event, 1998 RB asks MSC for 19 quali laps, his response- "okay thank you"(i know the thank you is sarcastic) when almost the same incident was done to Ham there was a consistent barage of team radio of how it was the "wrong call" and how they "lost him the race" and how there was not enough "delta" how he was "running out of time" i know he eventually won the race but the team had to baby him and keep him motivated, thats the difference, one had talent and CLASS while tthe other probably has more talent but lacks CLASS, its honestly goes to the point of being disrespectful that he cant just shut up and get the job done his strategists have won him so many races in the past. I know he always credits his team and thanks them but it would be nice to see some of that gratitude will he is driving. Now to the china incident i didnt blame him for the crash all im saying is if we put 2020 ham in that car he would have avoided that clash, it was as if he learned through that it is more important to keep the car in one peice than just being correct, like we see when he races with Ver he always gives him extra room. From our previous exchanges i know you are just a fanboy who cant accept that Ham is a human he has good sides he has bad sides like every other person so dont bother replying cos i wont after this. BYE
@@afradhahamed5181 Seems to me you lack the mental fortitude necessary to endure a sustained discussion with someone unwilling to back down. It's easier massaging your easily bruised ego by categorizing me as merely a fanboy. Fair enough. Few can handle this fire. MSC is class? Surely you jess. Didn't seem all that excited with David in spa 1998. Only in your mind is questioning a farfetched strategy worse that ramming competitors off track, parking his car in monaco to stop qualifying, plus various other questionable on track antics. One of which ending in being excluded from the entire championship. Don't get me wrong, the texting of what he thought was Jenson's telemetry was downright daft and unprofessional. So was lying to the stewards in Australia 09. But compared to the utter BS, I've seen both on track and on the comms by other drivers lewis is one of the better ones. Why must there always be a double standard with lewis, while continually ignoring the misgivings of similarly successful drivers. Senna, Prost, Mansell, Vettel and Alonso were no saints. Your biases are showing my friend. Mercedes' strategist is bar none the weakest aspect of that team. It's not ferrari bad but isn't redbull good either. James Vowles rarely gets it right but fortunately, he has the driver, technical/operational team that get it done regardless.
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Nico opened the Pandora box and retired to let everyone deal with the consequences of his actions
Lol, right.
That's kinda deep tho
phinadelphia Hlongwane underrated comment. Haters will still say it’s the car.
😂😂😂
Damn, that’s actually a good way to put it!
9:09 was 4D chess by Bottas. He hit Lewis so Nico would win the WDC that year, leading to Nico's retirement and Bottas' seat at Mercedes.
Holy moly your right lol
Ironically, Bottas also hit Rosberg in Malaysia. Rosberg was dead last by turn 3.
Hypersonik that was Vettel...
@@f1visionary866 You're right, it was. Still, same result for Rosberg :)
The bottas master plan
I agree with what Crankyankee's video concluded: "Losing to Rosberg was a blessing, but it bothers him that he couldn't answer back"
That video should be mandatory before people formed an opinion of their rivalry.
@sports person Same here. He was a great driver - had the talent for multiple world championships were he not paired with one of the best drivers ever. He was very competitive in 14', which I think people forget - and he was able to get his own championship in 2016; and with what he had to do to win - probably the most satisfying championship in a long time
I'll argee to dis agree..
Why would it bother him?He cares about things he can control, not things he cant.
Rosburg has only won once. Even in the lower categories Rosburg couldn't beat him, Therefore ,there is nothing left unanswered for it to bother hamilton. Its not like it was 2-2 for e.g.
Over all LH has proven Rosburg cant handle the pressure hence why he left as soon as he won ,by only 5 points may I add, Even with all the mistakes he made at the starts.
If anything that should bother Rosburg more rather than hamilton because out of all these years of competiting against him ,he only managed to do it once and then left.🤷♂️.
Which video was that?
OK so you need to watch Rush & How to beat Lewis Hamilton(CYF1 video)
Lewis was asked in an interview if reliability had cost him title and he replied “you could say that but you could also say it was because I made 4 bad starts” People forget this
Yeah hamilton didn't have a very good season in 2016
Overall Nico had more reliability issues than Lewis. In 2014 Nico had 3 such issues. Lewis 2. In 2015, Nico had 2, Lewis had 1. In 2016, Nico had 0, Lewis had 1. Still Nico suffered more.
@@aabhasamol4756 in 2014 and 2015, lewis won by such a margin that the difference in reliability issues wouldnt have mattered. in 2016, rosberg won by such a slim margin that malaysia was enough to change everything
And now we enter the 4th era of Lewis the decline
@ostentatious they were both in contention for the championship in 2014 at the last race. Nico's car had electrical failures, although he still carried on to finish...
Bottas lost the chance to fight a human Hamilton basically haha
@P. G.M Haha what?
P. G.M u mean like when in 2017 when Ferrari had a better car and he still stomped all over them or 2018 when he did the same
@@michaelmayo2489 rofl ferrari never had the better car
@@oransjball rewatch the 2017 & 2018 seasons. In 2017, Mercedes had a clear qualifying advantage (party mode..) but Ferrari had a huge race pace advantage. In 2018, the Ferrari & Mercedes were on par most of the season, some tracks suiting one car more.
@@oransjball they did time to be honest
I think we all now appreciate just how amazing Nico Rosberg was. I feel like because he and Lewis grew up racing together, they both knew each other extremely well. Because of that, Nico knew what made Lewis tick and found a way to get under his skin. That 2016 championship had many turning points and swings in the championship lead. Some will say Nico won fair and square. Others will say Lewis should have won. Ultimately, unexpected events always emerge over the course of a season and Rosberg prevailed in the end. I’m sure Lewis looks back and regrets a lot of things but he’s a champion. He hates to lose. That’s why he has evolved to this point where he’s pretty much unstoppable. He will never let a ‘2016’ happen ever again. Nico did the best thing by retiring while on top because there’s no way he’d beat this version of Lewis Hamilton.
sports person but Singapore was his fault and would have lost him the championship anyway.
sports person that’s so vague, I could say Mercedes messed up Hamilton’s strategy in Australia to lose him the race in Australia but it’s pointless to say because anything could still happen. Are you also saying Vettel chose a dry setup for Italy because then that would be his fault.
@sports person Yes, welcome to F1... Things happen, managing all that is part of the drivers championship.
@sports person Singapore doesn't count because it was his own fault.
Safety car things are pretty much just part of racing, we don't really ever look at that to be honest. Set up decisions are exactly that, a decision. You choose to make that gamble. I dont remember the exact details of that weekend, but if you are implying he had a dry setup whilst the rest had a wet one, its probably still his fault considering he couldn't win the race despite having a dry track and a dry setup whilst the rest were on wet setups in a wet race.
That just leaves the Malaysia and Japan. He would have needed to win one of those races and and finish second in the other.
Reliabilty also tends to be a comparison between teammates more then other teams, due the nature of differing equipment. I believe Kimi had engine problems all season too (unless i'm remembering it wrong) so its fair to say that Ferrari engine was not so reliable. If Vettel had 50% more engine issues then Kimi then yes, I'd agree he got unlucky that season (Its just overshadowed by how staggeringly stupid some of his mistakes were)
Under skin narrative is pure nonsense. The only thing that frustrated him was his car constantly letting him down
Lewis changed his diet in 2017. I remember him saying he even changed his approach to qualifying after last season. Overall he seems so much more focused than he was 2016 and prior. The complete driver now and my GOAT.
Yeah I think he went vegan as well around that year
It is said he even opted to remove the drink mechanism in the car to save weight. Dunno how true so doubtful but wouldn't be surprised with how out of breath he tends to sound in team radios.
The goat*
Vegan LOL
@@wad316 i thought its only for quali
Rosberg needed to cut out all distractions in his life, Lewis’s mechanics, Lewis’s car randomly failing to finish more than usual, and racing as well as he could to win. It almost killed him in terms of stress and now he’s living his best married dad life.
I wasn’t a fan but I respect his choices.
Regarding car "randomly failing", well, it is drivers responsibility to properly shakedown faults in testing and look after the car with mechanical sympathy, as Rosberg is engineering minded, he understood mechanical sympathy.
Mark Freeman Hamilton will always turn the car down when he needs to. You shouldn’t blame the driver at all for multiple engine failures out of his control.
@@akoniwashington7045 The engineers are constantly telling drivers to look after the engine, well before single engine modes came in.
@@tensevo Hamilton has the best/near best career reliability rate of all modern era drivers, including Rosberg, so he knows how to look after his equipment. Rosberg had slightly worse reliability than Hamilton in 2013, so applying your logic, it was Rosberg's fault and he lacked mechanical sympathy
@@shro8605 no u
"A Williams 1-2"
😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔
Oh yeah and they were 3rd on the championship
I completely agree with you. I remember somewhere Jenson Button saying Lewis would never let 2016 happen ever again
To be beat Lewis in the Championship by just 5 points in 2016, Rosberg had to...
- be given Lewis's Engineers
- receive regular Counselling & Coaching (his own admission)
- have Lewis be handicapped, by him being the "only" driver with a Mercedes engine to suffer MULTIPLE Engine Problems!
- do a Runner, claiming he's had enough of F1 & wanted to spend time with his family (yet he's STILL creeping around f1 like a nomadic cockroach, bitching about Lewis at every opportunity)
FINALLY... the Late Great Nikki Lauda let the cat out of the bag when he blew a gasket, fuming when asked for his thoughts on Rosberg running off ... "I'm disappointed & angry, because we gave Nico the Championship & this is how he repays us!"
BINGO!!! - Lauda confirmed what WE all saw for ourselves . . . Rosberg was gifted the 2016 Championship!!!
. . . And with all that help, he still struggled to beat Lewis by "just" 5 points!
So to those that say, put anyone in a Mercedes and they would win, I suggest you reflect on what it took for Rosberg to beat Lewis in the best car, with All the Assistance & TLC! - he did a runner, like the Coward he is!
@@catherinemorgan7836 Grow up, just accept that hamilton lost by 5 points, no matter how much you bitch about it, Rosberg will and forever will be a world champion.
@@Stuffry - nobody could ever accuse YOU of being delusional, ignoring all the FACTS! 🤣🤣🤣
Of course Rosberg is a WC, but the manner in which he won will always be cheapened!
As Nikki Lauda said when asked about Rosberg's Astonishing knee-jerk Retirement (in his own words) ....
"I'm disappointed & angry, WE gave Nico the Championship & this is how he repays us!"
I somehow think, that I'm more inclined to take the thoughts & knowledge of a well respected, PROFESSIONAL, 3 time World Champion, over an insignificant "delusional fanatic", trying & failing miserably to "mimic" basic human intelligence! 😝 😜 🤤
@@catherinemorgan7836 "BINGO!!! - Lauda confirmed what WE all saw for ourselves . . . Rosberg was gifted the 2016 Championship!!!"
uhh no, don´t try to make up on Lauda´s words. you know that Mercedes wasn´t just Rosberg and Hamilton working on their own right? that´s all he meant.
@@catherinemorgan7836 Damn. It's quite obvious that F1 fans are the worst when it comes to just acknowledgeding the skill of drivers they personally dislike but that's just.... Oof
The fact that Lewis had so many bad starts in 2016 and that failure in Malaysia and only finish 5 points behind Nico shows what an unbelievable driver he is.
He learnt his lesson after that loss and stepped his game up. Came back stronger, became more complete and nearly flawless.
One of the greatest F1 drivers ever.
It also helps that the car is superior, especially 2019-2020
Rosberg had many bad starts too. And was even more inconsistent.
The starts were his fault.
TBH that failure in Malasia was the tip of the iceberg. Rosberg had near bulletproof reliability that season wheras Hamilton had 4 mechanical issues in the first 8 races. By comparison Rosberg had about 3 all season.
At the end of the season Hamilton knew that if he had been better prepared for the early races, made better starts or not slowed down at the end of the previous season he would have won dispite his bad luck. Since then he has improved in those areas and he works hard to get the best result at every opportunity and mitigates his errors so that he doesn't need to worry about bad luck.
@@miikkanoob -Ferrari had the best car in 2018 and equal car to Merc in 2017
HE TOOK IT PERSONAL
🤣😂 It's all he needed.
Doesn't he always? Not hating. It's the truth
@@rajesshpraneeth8319 Its a reference to the last dance. Memes were like that. Apparantly its a nececeity to be an all time great.
lionemessi as much as it is a meme that competitive drive to the point where it’s almost ridiculous is something u see in all the greats
The hate this man gets kind of annoys me. I am not even a big Hamilton fan, but I dont know how people see anything bad out of this guy. He drives his heart off and is a good person off the track. Maybe sometimes the competitiveness comes out, but I do not think any of his confidence or arrogance is genuine.
It is because he is happy to take full credit when winning, but when losing, he is always looking for some conspiracy against him.
Mark Freeman you won’t find a Lewis interview after a race win where he doesn’t congratulate and thank his team for everything they’ve done don’t lie
@@tensevo you definitely haven't seen a interview of Hamilton. Always gives credit to the team.
@@tensevo yeah thats completely not true. Most of his L's he takes due to penalties and shit. Obvious any competitive person is gonna get irritated and clarify what they did wrong.
@@thejaiz8564 I don't think any driver doesn't thank the team after winning the race. Why does that surprise, you guys?
Lewis said that he was not surprised by Nico's retirement. “The sport will miss him, but I wish him all the best," Hamilton said. "I’m sure it was a surprise to many people. I’m probably one of the many people that it was not a surprise for, but that’s because I’ve known him for a long, long time. But this is motor racing.
"This is the first time he's won in 18 years, hence why it was not a surprise that he decided to stop."
personally feel like people dont understand how good hamilton is anymore as he's always ahead with no competition
just remind them to watch 2007 and 2018-he was brilliant in both---beat Alonso in the same car, beat a faster Ferrari in 2018
@@shro8605 a faster ferrari in 2018...
hahahahahahahahahahah what a fucking joke a faster ferrari?! the merc has been the fastest car on the grid since 2014
@@AH-ym4ro wong. Ferrari had the best car in 2018 but Vettel lost his mojo
@@xavier3211 not a fucking chance the mercedes was much better in 2018 than the ferrari same for 17, 16 ,15 ,14
@@AH-ym4ro Vettel made mistakes but Ferrari had the best car www.gpfans.com/en/articles/2673/ferrari-has-the-best-car-but-not-the-best-driver/
Drive to survive 2016 would've been so good
A little off-topic, but shoutout to FLoz for creating the "Silver War" documentaries and *capturing* the tension the Mercedes rivalry *SO* well!
Also, got to give you credit for *emphasizing* Hamilton's bad starts. In fact, iirc, Rosberg used that to his advantage BIG TIME by changing his exercise routine, specifically his leg muscles, to give him the edge in race starts! The extra boost also seemed to have irked Lewis as he wanted to know where that extra *little bit* of performance came from.
Edit: Found out where I found this information. It was from the Beyond the Grid podcast. The leg muscle thing is half-true; it did help him gain lap times, but it was Nico redesigning the *gloves* he was wearing that gained him the edge in the starts! INCREDIBLE how detailed he was with very much *everything* when he raced against Lewis.
Exactly, while Hamilton may’ve been unlucky with reliability he could’ve made up for it by avoiding bad starts.
What do u mean by iirc?
@@krishiv.95 iirc means If I recall correctly
@@coolryan121 ah thanks
@@SamuelSantos_ -Although Rosberg had as many bad starts as Hamilton
Respect to Nico - there isn't one driver who doesn't deserve a world crown - even in a dominant car (Mansell 92, Prost 93,Vettel @ RB etc.) - titles are not gifted. Nico really had to dig deep and despite a couple of DNFs for Lewis , no one should belittle his achievement - if anything that year raised both their stock values.
Schumachwe with Ferrari, Hamilton with Mercedes, Senna and Prost with McLaren, Ascari, Clark, Phil Hill...
Absolutely. I believe Nico took that championship. Lewis did not lose it. Lewis is perhaps the best driver ever. So Nico deserves full credit.
@@nassaubahamas5494 Button outscored Barichello 95-77, similar to the ratio of Schumacher vs Barichello in 2004.
@@nassaubahamas5494 Button outscored Rubens 64-41 at Honda. Qualifying was 50/50. In a very bad car Rubens won in 2008 but like Kvyat in 2015 and Coulthard in 1997...wins in such cars should not be exaggerated. Button had far more wins and poles in 2009. In 2006-2007 when the Honda was kinda decent Button outscored him 61-30. Rubens became formidable in the winter of 2004. He was dedicated to beating Schumacher. He failed, but had a far better season than Irvine ever had against a healthy Michael. His points ratio of 79% was similar to Brundles in 1992. This was a better Michael with a masterful team on his grips. Rubens tied Piquets 1987 record of 7 2nd places whilst Michael had 13 wins. Rubens was beat by Brundle in 1994 but was faster over one lap. By 1996 he easily outpointed the skilled veteran, but had less one lap pace. Irvine was 9 years older than Rubens and Martin 16...this enabled them to get in the youngsters head. Martin only lost in both qualifying and points over a season to Hakkinen and Schumacher...Belloff I'm not sure. Rubens also bested a rookie Hulkenberg easily despite the talented youths excellent pole...in a weak Williams. What Nico did to Palmer and Gutierrez is well established.. as is his moderate beating at the hands of Perez and Ricciardo. Button was less able to adapt to his cars declining characteristics like Michael in 2000. Unlike Michael there was no enormous budget to reestablish the cars superiority. Crazy Yankee documented how in 2000 Rubens seemed to step up when Michael had a bad lull. Buttons lull was the entire final 40% of the season. A combination of nerves and a huge lead seemed to upset Jensons performance. However, purported bad luck or not Rubens would never start a season like Jenson did in 2009. Nor would he have done quite as well at McLaren vs. Lewis. Bottas and Sainz have been outperformed by their teammates this year ,but poorer luck has exaggerated the gap.
@@nassaubahamas5494 He was 8 points better. Stalling the engine isn't luck anymore than Buttons bad starts. Barichello was 8 points better over 60% of the season....Button 26 points over 40%
The best experience for Lewis to become more inteligent and consistent driver.
But the worst for his Legacy.
@P. G.M ok clown
@P. G.M dcv
@P. G.M i've already told you: dcv. Don't know why you're replying
@P. G.M Ferrari had the best car in 2018, Hamilton drove well-give credit where it's due www.gpfans.com/en/articles/2673/ferrari-has-the-best-car-but-not-the-best-driver/
@P. G.M You seem really bitter, why?
Honda:quits f1
Aldas: let's distract everyone with a video about Hamilton and rosberg
Too bad that Honda is quitting F1 at the end of 2021 😔
As someone who has only been watching since 2016, this was a great video to watch. I think it really speaks to just how good Vettel was driving in 2017 that he was able to match/beat Lewis for most of the season as well as to how good Valterri is doing right now to be as close as he is.
Great video. Having to fight another team in 17 and 18 also helped Lewis raise his game! He really felt like the whole team was behind him! He was so much more complete as a racer, he would have been world champion driving the Mercedes or the Ferrari in 17 and 2018!
Not in 2017 Ferrari because vettel had reliability issues
Yeah I agree that 2016 formed the Hamilton we have today.
His cocky attitude really changed after 2016. He is more professional and mature now.
Although Hamilton’s results seem so consistent, the competition is not very far behind. His win is based on the efforts of a team, accumulatively.
I feel proud for him and congrats to his team.
Your commentary on the events was very comprehensive. Thank you.
Seeing the perfectionist that Lewis is now, I completely forgot how many times he bottled it in the past, especially in 2016 with his awful starts, geeez. He definitely made it his life's mission to improve after Nico defeated him.
Nico knew and Alanso knew that if they stick around lewis was out for vengeance! Yeah Bottas is going against this perfect AI and people shame him for not being super human.
I'm usually quoting Malaysia 2016 and I'm convinced. I forgot his bad starts and mistakes. He was quite vulnerable cuz of those...
really good video, sums up LH's F1 career very well
Watching this after losing the 8x wdc on the last lap to max… so hyped for next year. 🖤💜
Totally agree with everything you've said here. Good analysis I feel.
I personally think there was some fishy stuff going on in that Merc garage in the 2016 season. Something about how the entire thing went down feels off. It felt as if Nico knew he was going to win and leave. There was a youtube documentary about that year and some decisions Merc management made had me scratching my head asking why?
I think so too. He was hamstrung by his many poor starts and I suspect it's not entirely down to his mistakes, but maybe the way his start procedures setup by Nico's previous mechanics who were then working with Lewis. I mean how often has he lost his positions prior to 2016. Maybe that was what he intimated, when prompted only promising to reveal after his retirement.
Of Course it was rigged
@Samanthaflower no just no m8. I ain't no Nico Rosberg fan but I'm sure as hell it wasn't rigged
@Samanthaflower You should race Nico. 10 seconds after he crosses the line paint balloons start falling on the finish area😂. 2011 is the only season where Lewis was truly defeated(12 podiums to 6) ;but Rosberg was 97% as good in 2016: and that's all he needed. 97% of an arguable GOAT make Rosberg an all time great. Other than in the Monaco pole in 2014, Rosbergs aggression hindered him. Nico admits he can't drive grey as well as Lewis...just goes into black. Austria 2016.... certainly didn't help Nico. In terms of conspiracy, did Vettel run into Nico on purpose at Malaysia? Lol. Strange how someone so good at Monaco in an incredibly dominant car finishes 6th in 2016. The team said it's a mystery....? Conspiracy theories betray a lack of honesty and imagination.
If Mercedes were going to hand Rosberg a title and let him retire. Why wait 3 fucking years to do it? This weird conspiracy that the entire team let Hamilton lose is absurd. Were it true, somebody would've gone to the news companies with evidence and sold the story for MILLIONS. the fact that this hasn't happened yet and not a whiff of it has come near kinda shows that sometimes drivers get unlucky, mechanics make mistakes, drivers make mistakes.
Hamilton is not a god, he's just a good driver. He can, and did, lose to Rosberg, legally.
Wow I never thought that I would see a Williams 1-2 in the hybrid era of F1
They benefited the most after Mercedes initially, but couldn't keep it up as a small customer team.
The sad thing is they used to be best friends. Theres footage of them both on the podium as youngsters, jumping around and hugging
I'm no English teacher but that was a very good and concise intro.
Rosberg knew he would get dragged by Hamilton the next couple seasons had he stayed to defend his world championship.
I’ve seen & heard people say “Lewis has no competition.” Truth is he IS the competition. He’s the benchmark. Let that sink in for a second. The dude is so ridiculously good, he’s the standard for everyone else to strive for. That’s nuts. It’s not that there is no competition, or that there are no good/great drivers he’s racing against. He’s just THAT much better than everyone else at the moment. And more importantly he’s found a way to sustain this high ass level of competing. Unreal....
Best thing to happen to Mercedes is Hiring Hamilton. They had Nico and Schu for years with noting to show for till Hamilton showed up.
@@Agent-bm1dv between Hamilton & those rule changes I completely agree!
It actually is the best thing that happened to him. Since then he has been driven to be the undisputed best on the grid right now and he is because since 2016 he has won every title for three years in a row. He has made sure a 2016 season would never happen again.
lewis would still have won every title since 2016, but yes the loss may have motivated him. The loss was mainly due to that massive loss of points when Lewis' engine blew in Malaysia, but I think he had a lot of bad race starts that year which cost him some points, falling back as the starts were slow..... and yes you have just mentioned them as I am watching.
They complete each other in different ways. Nico’s claim to fame is he beat Lewis for the 2016 championship with the resulting consequent, the permanent imprint of Lewis in his memory since childhood carting. For Lewis, Nico propelled him to GOAT.
@Aldas While I agree with your general sentiment, it must be made clear Nico wasn't exactly sublime that season. He was more inconsistent than lewis and lost loads of points. Monaco was horrific. He had a bad start in canada and spun later on trying to overtake max. In Germany, he had a terrible start dropping from 2nd to 4th before the first corner. The similar happened in hungary, from 1st to 3rd. I say this, not to disprove your point but to make clear mercedes had a very temperamental clutch that year. Maybe it was toto speech to protect his drivers, but both had terrible starts at different points during the season. Using that as evidence to show lewis' underperformance is inaccurate and unfair.
Secondly, Malaysia was merely the final nail in the coffin for lewis' championship.
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This is the best comment out of all my thoughts exactly I just couldn't put it into words like you 👍
Great comment mate. I’ve always shared the same POV since that day in Abu Dhabi myself.
Monaco was a track Nico excelled at. He would either have to drive horribly on purpose or Mercedes never found the problem. I don't believe either driver was sabotaged. They tried hard for both drivers but would naturally slightly favour the more spectacular driver. Lewis was box office said Lauda. Some people even argue Lewis won in 2011. That's a lot of sabotage to explain that. McLaren was just screwed up for both Brits. No one argues that Jenson or Nico are GOATS and usually mention their victories to poke at Lewis. I believe they are all time greats who tested an arguable GOAT to his limit. I put Lewis 3rd ahead of Prost, Senna and Schumacher. Both Lewis's most challenging teammates after 2007 lost to very good but not great drivers in a crappy Williams as rookies. One rose to brilliance at BAR before his team crumbled. The other at Mercedes until an even more talented teammate seemingly spoiled his dream...but it was only delayed until 2016. Both decisively beat world champions in decline. Lewis is sent to 10th due to a technical problem in qualifying and finishes 7th. Nico is run into by Vettel and finishes 3rd in a damaged car. Lewis was ahead by 20 points halfway through his 2016 season. Racepace is interesting. Stroll was 2 seconds behind Massa at Australia in 2017 but only was outscored 43-40. You would think such a derided pay driver would be scalped like Palmer or Gutierrez. The only race Massa missed ...Stroll didn't do much...besides being easily faster than a rusty Diresta. Yes, the Canuck had a fortunate podium but kept his car on the track. Massa nearly equaled Lewis with more DNFs in 2008 but was skunked by Alonso. However, he did well against Kimi in 2007 and beat him in 2008. Massa did worse than Fisichella did against Alonso. Yet Kovalainen beat an only 32 year old Giancarlo with equal racepace and superior qualifying. Yet Heikke was the worst of Hamiltons teammates at racepace. He was like Bottas at Monza this year for 65% of the races in 2008-2009. The races where he did well Hamilton did poorly so the cars couldn't be used strategically. Much like RedBull from late 2018 onwards. For 18 of 19 races in 2011 Button averaged only 0.08 seconds slower than Lewis on Saturday yet barely edged Perez in 2013. Perez was only 0.07 seconds slower than the tall Nico in 2016. In his second year at Renault Hulkenberg became King of the Midfield. Ricciardo was only 0.07 seconds faster but decently outscored him which makes you think the Honey Badger would outscore Palmer 100-0 This was Nicos team (but like Rosberg in 2013) a name driver sort of makes it his team his first season with them. Ricciardo was no exception to that rule.
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"Lewis was ahead by 20 points halfway through his 2016 season." Really? Not to my recollection.
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I like this perspective. Iron sharpens iron.
You seem to forget that out of 8 Mercedes Benz driver he was the only one with multiply engine failure. Including back to back failures during qualifying that made him start from last...it was not just Malaysia.
And Rosberg had gearbox and suspension failures which Lewis didn't have. Rosberg was also hit with several driver penalties by the stewards which wouldn't have been penalties today.
So don't be so blinkered.
The gear box didn't stop him from finishing the race. By the time they got to spa lewis started at the back of the field with Fernando because they both ran out of engines...i don't remember nico starting at the back of the field 3 times because of engines. I don't remember him staring at the back of the field at all that season
@@ligerhavok6758 In the Maylasia race he was last by turn 3 because of a punt by Bottas. And for those races where after Spa, Lewis had an engine advantage over Rosberg.
Like I say, swings and roundabouts. Rosberg won because he did a better job.
Huh....Malaysia.....in Malaysia with 15 laps to go while leading the race the supposed engine advantage (brand new engine after spa penalties) blew up again. That was 25 points gone. Nico won Championship by 5 points. D .riccardi 25 m. Vestapen 18 N.Rosberg 15. How do you mention Malaysia and forget what happened at the end..remember u mentioned Malaysia..i would have mention lewis 5 blown starts and not taking nico seriously or seeing him as a real threat. Still only 5 points in the end.. doesn't seem very dominating..seems lucky. Only Mercedes driver that year with ANY engine failure. He had 3 at key moments..especially at Malaysia.
@@ligerhavok6758 Yes, you mention this 5 points. That's because Rosberg played the long game. If you win by 1/2 a point or 100 points, there is no extra prize. Bottom line he had to look after his car and do what he needed to do to win. He did and he won.
You have no idea how seriously Lewis did or didn't take Nico. Sounds to me like you're just making up excuses to fit your narrative.
Very very good analysis. One of the best and most objective. I also agree Hamilton self reflected and improved. Something Vettel should do.
Rosberg's retirement will always allow us to speculate: what if he actually ran from 2017? I have never been a Rosberg fan (and even though I've watched your video on why he's underrated, Aldas, I still can't see him as an excellent driver; for me, he's always been, like, medium to good at best), but who knows, maybe he could have won a second or even third championship.
Enter Phase 4: his move to Ferrari and his chase for a record breaking 8th championship.
Who else is here after Baku '21? Pressure building and bad starts coming back? Check.
Brilliant video, couldn't agree more 👏
Quite the eye opener to be honest
Having 2 number 1 drivers on a team has never worked in the history. Senna Prost, vettel richardo, richardo verstappen, alonso hamilton, it goes on and on.
Leclerc Vettel
great video Aldas, awesome to watch
I don't know who you are mate. But you're bang on here. Losing to Rosberg has been the best thing that has happened to Hamilton as a racing driver.
I've been the saying the same thing since 2017. Rosberg wouldn't have beaten Hamilton in 2016, post 2016.
As a newly obsessed F1 fan your videos are the best. Thanks for helping me catch up
Lewis definitely went Ultra instinct in 2017. Never looked back.
Christopher Graves lol facts, Mastered Ultra Instinct 😄
It’s also important to remember in 2016 , not just the bad starts that cost Hamilton the championship, Lewis had engine and gear box issues or reliability issues... by far of both Mercedes cars and customer cars , but he won 10 races to Nico,s 9 ..nico took himself to a very dark place to win the 2016 championship.. he was lucky & fortunate at the same time . Not in Hamilton’s league.
It would've been one hell of a season in 2017 🔥🔥🔥
Lewis was a winning machine before the 2016 loss. Toto confirmed that nothing about 2016 really changed Lewis' approach. He was already in his current phase by 2016.
I think you fail to realise Nico and Lewis have been basically racing eachother their whole life. Nico needs more credit, he knew how to push Lewis' buttons. It wasnt just Lewis making mistakes - Nico forced those mistakes
To be beat Lewis in the Championship by just 5 points in 2016, Rosberg had to...
- be given Lewis's Engineers
- receive regular Counselling & Coaching (his own admission)
- have Lewis be handicapped, by him being the "only" driver with a Mercedes engine to suffer MULTIPLE Engine Problems!
- do a Runner, claiming he's had enough of F1 & wanted to spend time with his family (yet he's STILL creeping around f1 like a nomadic cockroach, bitching about Lewis at every opportunity)
FINALLY... the Late Great Nikki Lauda let the cat out of the bag when he blew a gasket, fuming when asked for his thoughts on Rosberg running off ... "I'm disappointed & angry, because we gave Nico the Championship & this is how he repays us!"
BINGO!!! - Lauda confirmed what WE all saw for ourselves . . . Rosberg was gifted the 2016 Championship!!!
. . . And with all that help, he still struggled to beat Lewis by "just" 5 points!
So to those that say, put anyone in a Mercedes and they would win, I suggest you reflect on what it took for Rosberg to beat Lewis in the best car, with All the Assistance & TLC! - he did a runner, like the Coward he is!
@@catherinemorgan7836 Yeah, yeah go blame engine issues, how original
@@catherinemorgan7836 wow... what did they feed you?
@@catherinemorgan7836 As a Lewis fan, as you said Nico had to do absolutely everything right and give all that he had in order to become the 2016 world champion, which burnt him down so much he decided to retire. As its said un the video, Lewis was actually quite bad in starts and Nico always got the most benefit from those mistakes which together with Lewis DNF at Malaysia was the key to that championship.
It was dissapointing that he lost that championship by a really small margin and its also dissapointing that he couldn't fight back against Nico, but in my opinion its disrespectful to say that a driver who gave it all was gifted such an achievement.
I agree. It’s the loss that made him try harder. He wanted a rematch. But rosberg had enough. (Respect his choice to leave)
And Lewis have build so many records in that place. And he found a grove to keep improving.
If rosberg and Hamilton were fighting in 2018 with Ferrari right behind - that would have been damaging.
2nd video of yours that I've watched. Subbed because of the quality. Keep them coming man!
Want a fourth phase of Hamilton ? Take him to an whole another level ? Put Max in a Mercedes !
I personally think MAX would win he is a amazing driver
Lewis would never allow the team to sign Max.
Nah. Russell or Ocon to Mercedes.
@@doghat1619 LMAO merc offered max a contract in 2017 and he didnt want the smoke, u guys gotta research before u talk.
Get a time machine and give him Michael Schumacher or Ayrton Senna as teammate. Than we need phase 5 or 6 Hamilton.
Wow! Thank you! I never thought of this
Great work.
Another great video mate. another Sub sir.
Great content. I've always maintained that no one on the current grid would ever challenge Lewis Hamilton like Nico Rosberg!! (Except Max). Also you're right, I feel like if Nico Rosberg didn't retire, then he would have taken away a lot of wins & poles and maybe even a championship (2020/21) if Hamilton has similar luck to 2016 with Max always bothering
Even in the same team*
I think Rosberg was the smarter driver, especially that 2016 season, but Lewis learned from that and is now one of the smartest of all time. Nico played mind games on Lewis and knew his car better. That being said I think Lewis was, and still is, a better driver overall, but that season Nico had the upper hand. I hope one day we know what really happened behind the scenes that season, and I think when people know that they will appreciate both Nico and Lewis a lot more
@Zani Della Nico being "smarter" doesn't hold up to scrutiny. In 2014, mercedes gave him a comprehensive dossier, showing how Hamilton managed to save fuel while lapping faster. There's been countless instances of Rosberg requesting Lewis' setup during the races. It was the primary driving force behind the radio ban, because it was suggested drivers were being overly assisted by their engineers and weren't driving unaided as per the regulations.
Rosberg wasn't smarter-he'd often get his engine settings wrong (see Spain 2016 for an example) and often needed coaching see Britain 2016
Great video. Very good analysis. Some great points and I do agree to a good extent!
ye great video aldas gotta look at LH in 2016 when he said he didn't care abt winning or losing the race because he was going to lose the championship, compared to now where he's absolutely gutted if he doesnt come first no matter what the situation even if he started last.
This Hamilton thing is mental to both fans and haters, the boy is on another level
After 2016 Hamilton definitely was a different person and improved his mental strength a lot. Also worth noting that Hamilton had the most wins (10) in 2016 and still lost to Rosberg (9). Consistency is key.
People say that Malaysia was the deciding point of the 2016 championship. I have a little something to say about that.
Yeah, while Lewis's engine blowing up did cost him some points, Rosberg was punted off by Vettel into turn 1 and made an incredible comeback, and most people are overshadowing that with Lewis's engine blowing up. If Hamilton had won Malaysia 2016, Rosberg would have been pushing alot harder in the last 4 races because after winning in Japan, Rosberg knew that he only needed 2nd place in the last 4 races to win the championship. No matter if Lewis won the remaining 4 races, Rosberg was gonna be world champion no matter what.
People are too subjective and superficial, they try to resume everything at ,,if” moments in Hamilton s favour in order to make him look better and competitive, especially his fans who hide his weaknesses behind moments like Malaysia 2016.
To be honest too many times Hamilton had luck, especially since 2014 on, any top driver at that time could have done as good as him, just check out Russell in sakhir 2020.
Good analyses,rosberg knew the up coming seasons would be difficult, good prediction for rosberg
Ultimately, it was the reliability that cost him the title. Its not even the Malyasia DNF, he had a bunch of issues at the start of the season that were causing him to start at the back, and then took an engine penalty because of those + the Malyasia blowout. Any of those dont happen, his champion.
HOWEVER. He realised that despite the fact he got screwed by bad luck, if he had driven perfect, he would have won the title. So he made sure to do everything in his power to make sure he would never lose a title due to bad luck again.
This remindes me why i smile
when people compare Max and
Lewis....all due respect to Max.
Lewis is in a diffrent league
No way of telling, Max is in a bad and unreliable Red Bull. Put Max in the Merc and give him a year or two to adjust and I'm sure we'd get to see who's better.
Are you still smiling?
Best f1 TH-cam channel PLS COLLAB WITH CRANKY YANKEE
Both great channels. They've collab already.
Which video mate?
It's DEFINITELY something we'll do in the future, but it has to be on the right video
Waiting for the day to come
@@Aldas001 r u gonna do a vid on Honda?
It really brought him back to earth, now Lewis is the definition of unbeatable aahaha
His cocky attitude really changed after 2016
Great video. Also, look how farther up the grid Williams was as recent ago as 2016-17.
Both Mercedes had bad starts in 2016 tho, Rosberg had Germany, Hungary
Canada and China too
@@shro8605 lewis actually more bad starts in 2016
Funny how Lewis has the best starts in F1 these days now😂
I rewatched the 2016 season during lockdown and I had completely forgotten how terrible some of Hamilton's starts were. It always bugged me when people said that Nico only won because of Hamilton's engine issues. But now remembering all the issues he had that were his fault it really bothers me. Also, essentially all the races that Nico won, he completely ran away with. No one could even challenge him other than Ricciardo catching him on fresh tires at the end of Singapore when Nico's were done for.
That Singapore drive from Nico is probably his best win ever because had he lost that win, it will make Mercedes look stupid and also made Rosberg lost that championship. So the fact he was able to hold off Ricciardo who's on fresh tyres catching at a rate of knots, that says you a lot about how strong the man is mentally that season
@@motorsportfanboy7769 I agree. That race and Malaysia for Nico were insane. Everyone always talks about how Hamilton had the engine failure there, but always seem to forget that Nico was punted off at turn one, fell to dead last, and came back to finish 3rd. It was an incredible drive from him, yet it gets overshadowed. Yes, he was in the best car, but watching him go through the field like that was still amazing.
Sarah Wolf Yeah we kinda forgot his storming drive at Malaysia due to the fact it got overshadowed by Lewis’ engine failure and his move on Kimi to get that final podium spot is ballsy as hell. I still don’t agree with the fact FIA gave him a penalty for that (luckily it didn’t have an affect on the final result)
@@motorsportfanboy7769 I don't think he should have been penalized either. Moves like that are what I miss about him. He was not afraid to do something that might seem insane. I would rather watch an outcome like Spain that year than see them just drive away at the front but not battle once after the first lap.
Sarah Wolf Yeah we always think Rosberg is this very analytical guy which is probably why we never remember him for moves like those but at least people now realize how good he is since he retired
I am outta F1 since downsizing, but this video made me curious again..
Do you think he's stepped up his game or do you think he's simply under less pressure from Bottas and therefore isn't forced into mistakes? Remember Rosberg had a few years with Schumacher who played head games on Rosberg. Rosberg used all the same tricks against Hamilton and got into his head during 2016. Something I don't think Hamilton had ever experienced before. Bottas refuses to go that far to win and that's why he stands no chance against Hamilton.
This is why I want to see another team on the Merc pace all season with strong drivers that can properly challenge, I think the errors would start creeping back in if he was put under pressure.
People should stop comparing Rosberg to Bottas.
Because from 2014 - 2016 the Mercedes was way stronger than the rest of the field, so basically if Nico beat Lewis on one weekend it meant he won the race, but if Bottas beat Lewis, he had to beat Vettel, Leclerc and Verstappen aswell because the Mercedes in 2017 - 2019 was still dominant but not that much faster than the rest like in 2014-2016.
So obviously Bottas Numbers are affected by that compared to Rosbergs...
And I also think that Lewis has become even stronger since 2016, because he learnt his lesson after losing to Nico....
Lewis literally made no mistakes for 2 years straight and that was the reason he beat Vettel in 2017 and 2018
So Bottas probably had it even harder, fighting against an even stronger Lewis Hamilton...
Don’t get me wrong though. I still think Rosberg is the better driver compared to Bottas. But Bottas is just getting too much hate
They have been way stronger than the rest of the field for the entirety of the Turbo Hybrid Era. So really what difference does it make. Honestly it really doesn't matter what Vettel and Ferrari did in 17 and 18 because neither were consistent enough throughout the entire season. That's like giving Borussia Dortmund a pat on the back for challenging Bayern Munich for 2/3 of the season and falling off the cliff for the last third of it. In other words where it actually matters most. Roseberg wouldn't have never finished miles off Vettel in both seasons like Bottas somehow managed to. I believe he would finished behind him but not by very much. The other too is Rosberg without question wins a lot of more races. I dare say possibly even double the amount Bottas has his whole 4 years in Mercedes.
Talia Mason Like I said, I’m not saying that Bottas is better than Rosberg.
What I’m saying is that Bottas is definitely facing a even stronger than Lewis, so that comparison is kinda unfair.
Also the 2014-2016 Merc was just different, literally every race was a Merc 1-2
In 2017-2019 Ferrari and Red Bull was in the mix
People forget he finished 4th/8th/11th with Williams in wdc stats before partnering with Hamilton he finished in front of vettel when finished 4th
Why give credit to Rosberg for Lewis's success? With all due respect he ran away!! I think people do not want to give Hamilton credit for his skills. Oh, he has a good car!! Oh, his team mate is weak. Oh, blah blah blah. Now when you are not bashing Lewis, you use his name to promote another driver!! Please man just give credit to a brilliant racer and wish him more world championships
@Samanthaflower Nah Ayrton Senna is da GOAT sorry to break your heart
tAnk ThOmas kimi between 03-07
You make a fair point there. I'm a little less salty about Malaysia now because he really would've been champion if it weren't for those awful starts
LH didn't step up in 2017, he partnered Bottas...
Honestly I don’t think Nico would’ve stood a chance against Lewis if he’d stayed. He’d have done better than Valtteri but wouldn’t have pushed him any harder than Seb did.
Not only has Lewis found another gear since 2016, but Nico also had to make insane off-track sacrifices that year in order to maximise his performance, and maintaining that level for another year would’ve been a tall order.
Bring him back 💔
Samanthaflower there is no comparison 😭
He is terrified to come back , he wasn't fired he ran away.
PLEASE MAKE A VIDEO TALKING ABOUT SEBASTIAN VETTELS MOVE TO ASTON MARTIN👏👏we’ve been waiting for it for so long now please!!.
@Samanthaflower Oh 4WDC oh yeah. I ain't a fan of Vettel but at least give him some respect
Samanthaflower lol go sleep. Vettel is a legend!
Superb Analysis...
Huge question marks over the relative reliability of the two cars over the course of a season. Basically a deal was made I think within the team. The fact that Rosberg immediately retired strongly suggests that he didn't expect to do so well the next year. Hardly the actions of a valiant new champion eager to defend his title. Hamilton had to beat his team and Rosberg.
You’re so right :)
I absolutely agree with you Lewis needed that kick after losing to Rosberg with all those pole bad starts and a couple DNF really made him think and re-evaluate his starts and his on track racing but thanks to Rosberg Lewis became a different animal the best F1 driver of all time in all conditions as well in my opinion
Good video I like the details 👍🏿 🇱🇨🇲🇸🇬🇧
Fucking hell now Lewis is so good on his starts absolutely flawless
Because Nico is a better driver better with fans better at PR and media and was and still is just a better person. Hamilton felt a threat with nico and absolutely forced merc not to sign him. That's why Valtrie is there he hasn't until recently started to ask why everything goes Lewis way. Put another WC as his team mate that isn't called a number 2 and Hamilton will crumble.
there is no conversation. Lewis is the best F1 Driver of all Time.
If I was Hamilton, I would wanna have at least one more serious fight for a championship again before retiring. Lobby for Max to go to Mercedes, get your challenge, and lets see what happens
No need. Look at today
I think the Hamilton and Rosberg situation is very similar to the Ricciardo and Verstappen situation. I don't think we ever truly appreciated how good Ricciardo was until we saw the quality of Verstappen compared to others in the same car besides Ricciardo, especially Gasly and somewhat Albon. I think it's the same thing with Bottas now, he's really very good, but he's up against the best in the world, where it's hard to absolutely shine.
I think losing to ROS made him undertsand the true value of scoring points in every single race, yes he lost out in the champiosnhip due to the unreliability, but only if he hadnt crashed on the opening lap in china, or understood his steering setting in Aze, or got a better start at suzuka or any of the other bad starts he could have won that championship, which brought out this Prost like behaviour in him which honestly makes him as close to the most complete drivers the sport has ever seen (only the unnecessary complainig and victim complex take away from that). One thing that is sure is every championship he won after ROS makes ROS' acheivement even more greater.
@Afradh Ahamed
Unfortunately, your words are resoundingly true. Losing to nico, while painful, was the best thing to happen to lewis. Never again would he allow an inferior drive to beat him while not maximizing every given opportunity on track. Being good wasn't good enough, neither was being great - only perfection would suffice. Since then, he tests more, often completes the most laps/distance in pre-season. Also spends much more time at the factory and race debriefs. Nothing is left up to chance. Everything is scrutinised.
That said, and we've been over this - all drivers complain, Hamilton is no different. Unsure why this bothers you more than others. Ought to look into that.
Might want to reconsider your stance on him "crashing" in china. th-cam.com/video/659F52-ClGk/w-d-xo.html He was hit by Felipe Nasr which dislodged his front wing. The question is why did he start dead last with ostensibly the fastest car on track.
Most view 2016 as the championship lewis lost to nico. I look at it as the championship nico almost squandered. If lewis had nico reliability, I bet my house he wouldn't have won by only 5 points.
@@Bahamuttiamat Well here we go again, I dont know why you went on that rant about perfection but i pretty much already agreed with you on that.
I woudnt call Ros an inferior driver, because the effort he put in to that 2016 season was honestly nothing short of phenomenal, while Ham was partying away after he won his 3rd championship, and his technical knowledge of the car and its starting system proved to be quite crucial in those early races, you could call him a driver that didnt quite have Ham's natural ability.
Yes every driver complains but im not comparing every driver to the most complete driver the sport has ever seen, when you talk complete driver you unavoidably have to compare with MSC as he was simply the best and there is 1 particular inident that we can compare at the same event, 1998 RB asks MSC for 19 quali laps, his response- "okay thank you"(i know the thank you is sarcastic) when almost the same incident was done to Ham there was a consistent barage of team radio of how it was the "wrong call" and how they "lost him the race" and how there was not enough "delta" how he was "running out of time" i know he eventually won the race but the team had to baby him and keep him motivated, thats the difference, one had talent and CLASS while tthe other probably has more talent but lacks CLASS, its honestly goes to the point of being disrespectful that he cant just shut up and get the job done his strategists have won him so many races in the past. I know he always credits his team and thanks them but it would be nice to see some of that gratitude will he is driving.
Now to the china incident i didnt blame him for the crash all im saying is if we put 2020 ham in that car he would have avoided that clash, it was as if he learned through that it is more important to keep the car in one peice than just being correct, like we see when he races with Ver he always gives him extra room.
From our previous exchanges i know you are just a fanboy who cant accept that Ham is a human he has good sides he has bad sides like every other person so dont bother replying cos i wont after this. BYE
@@afradhahamed5181 Seems to me you lack the mental fortitude necessary to endure a sustained discussion with someone unwilling to back down. It's easier massaging your easily bruised ego by categorizing me as merely a fanboy. Fair enough. Few can handle this fire.
MSC is class? Surely you jess. Didn't seem all that excited with David in spa 1998. Only in your mind is questioning a farfetched strategy worse that ramming competitors off track, parking his car in monaco to stop qualifying, plus various other questionable on track antics. One of which ending in being excluded from the entire championship.
Don't get me wrong, the texting of what he thought was Jenson's telemetry was downright daft and unprofessional. So was lying to the stewards in Australia 09. But compared to the utter BS, I've seen both on track and on the comms by other drivers lewis is one of the better ones.
Why must there always be a double standard with lewis, while continually ignoring the misgivings of similarly successful drivers. Senna, Prost, Mansell, Vettel and Alonso were no saints. Your biases are showing my friend.
Mercedes' strategist is bar none the weakest aspect of that team. It's not ferrari bad but isn't redbull good either. James Vowles rarely gets it right but fortunately, he has the driver, technical/operational team that get it done regardless.
@@Bahamuttiamat nah m8. You got outplayed by that guy Uptop. So stop saying cause you lost
Hamilton does not want to swap mechanics with Rosberg
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Ok?
Bottas prolly needs to watch this video. Might get him motivated