Mountain in the Sea by Ray Naylor | Spoiler Free Book Review
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- The Mountain in the Sea by Ray Naylor
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Read it a few months ago. Very cool premise, found the writng a bit dry, but enjoyed the revelations.
Glad u liked
Just finished it this morning. I liked it. Definitely good and I liked the concepts and the world building which felt lived in and realistic as our future
Read it when it first came out.. a firm 3.5 stars.
But I'm a sucker for octopuses, first contact, alien languages, and Thomas Nagel. 😏
Did u want more out of the 1st contact?
@@FIT2BREAD Definitely. I can also appreciate given the subtle slice to decipher. 🐙
It would have been more evocative if he'd continued forward in the vein of Star Trek's Tamarian language "Sokath, his eyes uncovered/opened" or Arrival-style communications. How would a cephalopod evolve its language patterns further? What history or vision of the future could they share with us?
Of course, it's painful to watch humanity lose who they are, as another species is coming into its own.
@circa1890 yeah I was def getting the Arrival vibe, but more basic
Good review Michael. I really enjoyed this one, especially the relationship between Ha and Evrim. I also really liked the idea of an A.I. slave ship, as dark as it was.
Thanks Paul
It's great being able to listen to your reviews after I've read the book. As you know, i agree with you on this book. It wasn't awful, just not great. I'll have to say that as i read more books this one moves further down the list. My rating of it lowers when i think about how good my recent reads have been. Thank you Michael for being such a good guide on my science fiction journey.
Thanks Dale. Love talking to u about it here and elsewhere
The most interesting part of the book comes after you read it and imagining how the octopodes viewed events, and humanity in general.
Thinking about your comment, I agree. Thinking about it from their view point definitely enhances it
This book has been on my radar. I am curious about it and I just put a hold request in at my library. I am on the waitlist.
Cool. I hope u like it cap
I would recommend moving ur script more to the center and slow down just a touch. Great video ^_^
My 3rd favorite book (of 28 read) so far this year.
Ooh what are the 1st two Andy??
😂 „I just died by 8 arms tonight…”!
Love it!
Nice review. I was really curious what you might think of this book; I’m glad to say that my take on it was similar to yours. I was intrigued by the book, it stands apart from most new SF.
So, bottom line, I liked it, but did not love it.
Ha thanks for noticing the lyrics. That's how I knew I'd use that song. I had that first line in my head and took it from there
@@FIT2BREAD You made my day. 😀 Thanks
It’s on my mantle over my fireplace but there’s just too many books to be read ahead of it that excite me more right now. But I do feel like I’m gonna enjoy this book!
Cool. I think u can wait on it, but it is an enjoyable read
I just finished reading the Three Body series, and feel like I now have bragging rights and can take on any reading challenge. Thought of reading the Book of the New Sun, but noped out, lol. Was now thinking of this or, Project Hail Mary or Children of Time.
Of the ones you mentioned, Children of Time is my favorite
@@FIT2BREAD Yeah, so many love that book. I'm thinking I'll start that. Is it a mindfuck or an easy go-through? Don't really need more of the mindfuck after Three Body (which I loved, btw).
@@MirrorReaper1ou didnt ask me, but im going to butt in. If you need a rest and dont want your mind blown again- children of time is probably more hard core than u are looking for. I think you might be in the mood for project hail mary! Its easy and fun and high recommend for audiobook by ray porter
@@secretsauceofstorycraft Sounds good. Definitely looking for a fun read before I delve into the deeper recesses of sci-fi again.
Just grabbed this from the library. Definitely need more ocean in my sci-fi. Like I absolutely enjoyed that John Wyndham ocean alien book and also Crichton’s Sphere but what other ocean sci fi is there? 20,000 Leagues? I think events over the summer clearly demonstrate the public’s current interest in thrilling undersea stories.
There's def a few. I really like 20,000 Leagues..if you want something more recent, you might like The Membranes by Chi Ta Wei a really good novella. You'll also get a decent amount of under water in Lagoon by Nnedi Okorafor, but not as much as the others
Read it, liked it a lot, I think it's worthy of award consideration.
Glad u liked it. I was surprised it didn't get a Hugo nomination
Huh... Sounds kinda interesting. I have never heard of this book. I might give it a read when I am done with what I am reading...
It was getting a lot of buzz early in the year. Some of my freinds really loved it
😊😂 woooot!!! U finally got to this one! I’m sooo excited. Loved the convos we had about this one and am sad it wasnt on hugo finalist list….
Me too. Great convo
I’ve been meaning to read this for the last few months. I’ve also got In Ascension by McInnes, which I believe has cephalopods too… Bit of a fashion lately 😊
And u aren't all octipussed out!? :)
@@FIT2BREAD Not quite 😊
Glad you overall enjoyed it even if it wasn't a new favourite. I enjoy hearing your perspective on some of these newer releases
Thanks R!
Nice! I remember ripping Cutting Crew off the radio for a mixtape, in 1986. - Mike Reynolds
Thanks Mike. When I hear it on the radio it always sticks in my head for a few days
Love the review! I agree with almost everything you said and love the song at the end!
My only disagreement is that I found it the tank scene with Altan to be mildly impactful, I got the idea that she was controlling multiple drones at the same time and the overall experience was very draining due to the pure concentration required.
great video!!
Thanks a lot. I appreciate it. Re the drone stuff. .. that early scene, we're you visualizing the ship being a formidable opponent requiring her to use a lot of tactical concentration? I accept that maybe just the act of controlling them for basic function might be difficult, but I also get the sense that later in the book, opposing threats, she had a lot more in her...like she was way more capable than what the early threat required of her...if that makes sense..
@@FIT2BREAD oh yeah I get what youre saying now! And I actually do agree; that ship wouldn't have been much of an opponent compared to what happens later. Perhaps she needed to use the tank on such a large ship because it was the only way to get access to enough firepower to take it down due to its size. That's just me playing devils advocate, I actually do see your point and agree with it.
@rat_bat good point. And my side is more cynical, so I appreciate the balance :)
Quick question: why is it so violent??
On the plus side, it's an easy read. For the most part I found it pretty boring. Question... Was the mystery woman that was wearing the Abglanz Shield and killing all the witnesses supposed to be Atlantsetseg?
Good question... I did not think it was altansetseg...
I love anything with octopi ! 🐙
Surely then this thumbnail is for you! :)
I liked the ideas in this book and the creepy atmosphere. It reminded me of some of Vandermeer’s work. However, the dialogue let me down. It sounded very wooden and unnatural. That may have been intentional, but it did not work for me.
Yeah...I think I just wanted it to get deeper and darker
I am planning on reading Mountain in The Sea, but it's far down my TBR list. I might get to it next year or so 😅
I dont think anyone would regret reading it, but I also wouldn't rush to it
Sounds like I enjoyed it a lot more than you did. 😄
Probably, but I did like the reading experience. A few weeks removed from it, I don't see myself thinking about it much
Am I the only one currently reading comparing this to the 2016 Arrival film? :D
May have enjoyed it slightly more than you; more focus on octopus culture and less on AI fishing boats would have been appropriate. The abglanz was suggestive of A Scanner Darkly, but superfluous. Most plot points were wrapped up, a solid 8.5.
Nice catch, I'm surprised I didn't call to mind the scatter suits...in related news, A Scanner Darkly review (and lyrical music...) coming very soon!
Its on my shelf but i haven't gotten to it yet
Let me know if u eventually do cindy
@@FIT2BREAD this is completely unrelated but is still science fiction 😉 me and the hubby watched terminator the other night and the year that Conner sends Reese back to the past was 2023!!! So be on the lookout for Skynet! Lol
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Are you calling me a snowflake Frank?! :)
haha no you're about the last person I'd accuse of that wasn't trying to ghost you with the nuke symbol just saying didn't have a lot to say this time but the "aliens" in the bk sound pretty interesting know octopusess are incredibly smart and inventive⚛
@FrankOdonnell-ej3hd haha I know u weren't. Just having fun with you Frank!