So are you also allowed to kick players? I guarantee you if Xhaka had been the one to kick through the player, whether there was interference or not, he would have got a straight red!!
Let's not be alarmed by this ref who almost appeared to be out to get our boys. Ignore that and you will shock haters of our club. At work people have been surprised not to hear my complaints. Then questions became whether we are now certain we are not up to competition. I looked at them and loughed which surprised them but gave peace and calm.
Rice didn't put himself in a position to be booked. He's walking away, and the ball is kicked against him, away from the spot of the incident. The referee's decision was simply shambolic and clearly indicates an agenda against Arsenal.
If you are Declan Rice, you get kicked and red carded. If you are Gabriel Martinelli, you get two quickfire yellows and get sent off. This borderline decisions only happen to one team.
@@henk624 when a person views themselves as a victim in various situations, even when there is evidence otherwise - rice himself admitted to being stupid for committing a yellow card offence.
The ball was moving and the defender hacks Decland Rice to the floor. SURELY regardless of whether Decland kicks the ball out, the fact that the ball was still moving shows intent on the defenders part. If that's a second yellow then it's also a straight red! All players taking a free kick with an opposing player near can kick the geebies out of the opposing players when attempting to play the ball?? Must be a new rule that can be applied to the letter of the law!
Really ? Are you forgetting the martinelli double yellow card in one go ? Remember the var said they forgot to draw lines for an offside call that cost us points ..the newcastel match were the ball goes out if play/gabby gets pushed/ goal was offside all the one go ...and you think its gona stop why ?
Anthony Gordon’s goal - Newcastle,No red card for Mateo Kovacic - Man City,Ivan Toney’s goal - Brentford,Disallowed Gabriel Martinelli goal - Man Utd ,Red card and penalty - Wolves,Martinelli 2 yellow cards in 3 secs..It's getting couriser and couriser
@Mberrybb It shouldn't have been the second yellow because the Brighton player rolled the ball towards Rice's leg and the ball touched Rice's right foot Rice looked down and slightly flicked the ball out of his path, all the while the ball was moving. Rice didn't move towards the ball the ball was rolled towards him and you can't legally take a free kick with a moving ball.
Letter of the law seems to be their defense mechanism, Why is Arsenal the lesson to other clubs. Why didn't they use the same law on other matches that did the same thing😂😅
Kavanagh knew he was being beyond harsh, it wasn’t just one call during the entire game he was favouring Brighton. To be honest if the PGMOL wasn’t a mates club he wouldn’t referee another game for allowing his own bias to impact his decisions.
Exactly what is said. You don't need anyone to tell you the referee was compromised. The FA should sit there and just be defending referees. It wasn't just the card, but largely he hardly gave Brighton cards for harsh tackles but dishes to Arsenal
Last year almost every game arsenal played against 12 men on the pitch at least. Very difficult to win against such teams. This year they are onto it again.
That's the reason why the EPL refs couldn't improve. When the opportunity arises for the refs to take responsibility and learn, it becomes who you support. Applying the rules selectively is always problematic at any level or at any circumstances. It's hard to tell if it's incompetence or wanting to be in the news feeling important. In a league where a single point makes a difference in so many levels, having this kind of error can cost a championship or cause relegation costing millions in losses. This needs to improve
@@gettyasnake6855 yeah, u are right. because, referees should be impartial when officiating, otherwise they might be taking drastic steps just to deter arsenal. we fo not have world class strikers, what are they scared of. probably now arsene wenger encountered same problem, especially against manchester united. we just want to see our arsenal play, win every now and then. thst is all
2 years ago we were robbed against Brentford we lost a league,, last year were robbed against Newcastle we lost a league again,,, here we go again again
This letter of the law arguments is B S period! There were several incidents in the same game where the letter of the law were not applied. The letter of the law only apply to one team? Premier league referees are completely incompetent and don't use common sense when it is Arsenal. That's why Arsenal fans are tired and fed up with all these inconsistencies. Every season Arsenal drop points because of bad decisions by these useless and brainless Premier league referees. I can go on and on, on several instances to support my arguments. Arsenal is referee differently by these biased Premier league referees period!!!!
Darren is always biased towards Arsenal. Every time I watch him, he is looking to see arsenal lose every time. A pundit should say the truth irrespective of your affiliation
That x ref. Never slates the ref for getting it wrong. Worst I've ever known the standard of refereeing in the last 2 seasons. It's killing the premier league. The three points Arsenal lost at Brentford cost them the title. The offside goal for Liverpool very nearly cost them the title. Pundits need to call it out.
Thank Ian Wright for not backing down off the moving ball argument! Law 13.2 “The ball must be stationary and the kicker must not touch the ball again until it has touched another player." Well what if it was literally never stationary to begin with bring it back to the free kick
I cannot fathom the fact that Veltman was allowed to roll the ball into Rice's feet who was simply walking away. What was he legally trying to achieve?
This referee is in the pocket of mancity and had complete bias against Arsenal. Because Declan is booked for a red card we lose him for vital games. There was no consistency in his refereeing.
Do you really think City needs the help of refs to beat arsenal? Liverpool were much harder to beat. Their is no fear factor about Arsenal. Why didn't Liverpool make these complaints
@@LionKingMCFC that not my point .if you watch the match you know I’m Saying the fact .but no need to stress it .humans when something hasn’t happened to them ,they feel the other person’s is complaining.so don’t worry I bet your team will taste the soup too so no hard feelings
@Gmanchi the 19 other teams don't complain as much as Arsenal. The stats came out last season. Arsenal don't get the most calls against them l, it was liverpool, you weren't second or third.
another referee from greater Manchester refereeing arsenal differently, look at Parteys yellow. Yet Brighton can swing saka about with no card, no card for kick on rice, swing trossard about 1 rule for 1, 1 for another. Maybe we should refs from other parts of the country unlike 80% currently from manchester
Arsenal fan here and rice fucked us over been a spolt brat all game acted like a kid knowing the rules and now we loose him for basically brighton that time and spurs it's all he's doing .. but never the less brighton deserve to beat us badly easily .. hats off to the defence side of things.. I have no sympathy for rice and he needs to be great to be in my books again that's for sure loyabilety he was cost us that game 100 percent .. forget the fans justifying about Pedro and that shut up grow up
If we are judging by the letter of the law, since the brighton player kicks the ball while it's moving, that should be considered kicking ball away, and thus delaying restart. Should have received yellow. Secondly, he kicked a deadball at a player by letter of the law that is considered the same as kicking a player, straight red card. The "letter of the law" argument is just a cover for a mistake.
If referee do allows freekicks to be taken occationally while the ball is rolling then sure it's matter of subjectivity (not black and white).. and in this case common sense should have been prevail!!
The Brighton man made a redcard offence by shoveling Rice than Rice's slightest touch leading to yellowcard. The brightonman never intends to kick the ball rather is to shovel Rice and deceight the fool ref knowing Rice was already on yellow card. It's a shame!😡
Do you think the player is idiot like you to kick Rice like that? He immediately apologized and no body was thinking the referee would call a yellow card! The situation is either red card for Brighton player or yellow for Rice.
Please revise the heighlight taken from the cornerflag area that shows the level of Brighton'sman foot while trying to shoot and it was weighabove the level of the ball implicating it was to kick Rice not the ball. The Brightonman tried a gamble and it worked very well.
Rice did intentionally tap/kick the ball to the side. So he has placed himself in a potential position of getting that yellow. However ”The Letter of the Law” as so often quoted in comments about this, also applies to Law18. The foul that lead up to this, watching it again it’s really questionable as to if that was a foul in the first place. However at the moment it certainly would have looked like one to the ref at the time. With the free kick, firstly the ball was intentionally sent further up the field from the point of where the original offence took place. It should have been brought back. The ball was moving, so a free kick should not have been taken at that moment. Thirdly, it was blatantly clear to Veltman that as he took his kick he would have kicked Rice. You could even question if he was making any attempt to kick the ball, but he definitely intended to kick Rice and it was a sideways blow close to Rice’s knee. Plus so many Brighton players running up calling for that second yellow is an issue that’s been highlighted as a problem in the game before, and is meant to be clamped down on. You could argue this was their attempt to deflect from what everyone could see which was Veltmans deliberate kick. Trying to focus the ref on that tap of the ball by Rice. The red cannot be rescinded as it was due to a second yellow, also Rice did tap the ball away, and it’s a point that the authorities are trying to clamp down on so they cannot have an example rescinded. But this whole saga highlights the need for a whole incident to be thought over by a Ref even just after the heat of the moment. There law 18 is applied. If it wasn’t for all the facets leading up to That tap of the ball then there would have been far less controversy over this incident.
The B player cannot take a quick free kick because Rice was in the way, not because the ball is in the way. Look, if Rice had not been in the way, the B player would have stopped the ball and restart the game faster than Rice had been in the way
Incorrect, Delcan Rice IS walking away, Brighton player rolls the ball into the back of Rice's left heel and it rolls around past him before he toes it away. If the Brighton player wanted to take the FK he could have placed it directly where he was already standing. He knows exactly what he's doing and the useless reff completely fell for it.
Chris Roy says the game is revolving but accidentally it always happens with the same team something very suspicious, Chris kavanagh seemed like he even never wanted to know as to whether the ball was still rolling or not, two never cared as to whether cheat man veltman really had to kick rice up the knees
Lol why are arsenal fans so angry about this game. They didn't even play well with 11 players.... Arteta is becoming so defensive , even against Villa, maybe he doesn't want to lose any game thinking that's the only way to beat city but it's killing the teams creativity going forward 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Can’t believe these pundits refer football rules as laws! There is no comparison because there is mechanism for appeal, and hence little justice involved! There are few thoughts put into these written rules, and the referees are severely unqualified and incompetent to enforce them. They are applied haphazardly and the commentators have no moral courage to point out the inadequacy of the refereeing body for fear of sanctions. It is plain stupidity!
The ball moving is irrelevant.. If Rice booted that ball out of the stadium, he would still get the yellow..Soft yes but still a yellow in the eyes of the law
Don't be daft, if we're following "the letter of the law" you can't take a free kick until the ball stops moving, so Rice didn't interfere with the free kick
yeah, we just want a fair and just game. nothing preposterous, just a good and honest game.. are arsenal that much of a threat, because that would mean we will never achieve greatness. manager mikel arteta will always be opposed. it is not fair going to a game when the boys and our manager mikel arteta already knows what the outcome will be. since, we tend to get ostracised & excommunicated on every game to date
I dont think the refs are biased at all i think they are all just shit at their jobs and thats a problem when you have the best league in the world but the worst refs.
Arsenal were having a good game. The Brighton defender was in defence. If the Brighton player could have taken the free kick quickly Arsenel were effectively playing with 10 men because Rice was totally out of position and could not affect the game. When Pedro kicked the ball away the nearest Arsenal player was in Fulham so Pedro was hardly affecting the game.
Darren Lewis’s brain is hooked on Arsenal bias . He belittles sporting excellence because he was never an athlete. To have the right to have a big mouth and be allowed to spout bias is sad ! He seems a Champion Lover who keeps his favor from one previous winner to the other ! That is never the spirit of sport . That is not the spirit embraced by people who have experienced playing sport !
I’m not Arsenal fan, but they need to move on from this already. If you let this in your head for the rest of the season, you won’t get there! It’s the same mentality of a team hitting the cross bars 8 times, and the opponents come down and score a winning goal. You will never see City doing this!!!
It was a defo a red, no argument.. nobody’s talking about Declan’s amateur act. When you are already booked its silly to kick the ball that way. Whether you kick the ball a mile or an inch you still kicked the ball. No debate.
The bias here by wright is a bit sad he’s usually pretty fair ..no one is talking about the 15 seconds before that rice tries to use flair an be clever in the corner skills he doesn’t have an veltman took it off him an shield him he couldn’t even dangle veltman in the corner the player he thought I could try this on he then loses that battle an out of frustration on a yellow makes a stupid mistake jsut get way from the ball walk away get into position he tried to stop the ball he then kicks the ball it’s a yellow it’s stupid I don’t like that they don’t point out his frustration when he loses the ball in the corner
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So are you also allowed to kick players? I guarantee you if Xhaka had been the one to kick through the player, whether there was interference or not, he would have got a straight red!!
Yea I believe so too because he played for Arsenal
Let's not be alarmed by this ref who almost appeared to be out to get our boys. Ignore that and you will shock haters of our club. At work people have been surprised not to hear my complaints. Then questions became whether we are now certain we are not up to competition. I looked at them and loughed which surprised them but gave peace and calm.
100% just because it's Chaka he would get a red
100% truth
Absolutely correct statement!
Rice didn't put himself in a position to be booked. He's walking away, and the ball is kicked against him, away from the spot of the incident. The referee's decision was simply shambolic and clearly indicates an agenda against Arsenal.
It's seemed like the premiership referees want man city to be champions forever
It makes their job easier @@ligalioduwole6506
@@ligalioduwole6506that oil money investments is too sweet man.
Arsenal fans always crying when decisions don't go their way, still a long way to go... focus should be on next games!
@@audusaleh9661 stfu even the referee has now apologizedp
If you are Declan Rice, you get kicked and red carded. If you are Gabriel Martinelli, you get two quickfire yellows and get sent off. This borderline decisions only happen to one team.
Victim mentality
@@MberrybbI’m not sure you know the meaning of victim mentality.
@@henk624 of course I do, I’m not an arsenal fan
@@henk624 when a person views themselves as a victim in various situations, even when there is evidence otherwise - rice himself admitted to being stupid for committing a yellow card offence.
Same ref who didn’t give 2 more yellow card offences by Kovacic on arsenal players
The ball was moving and the defender hacks Decland Rice to the floor. SURELY regardless of whether Decland kicks the ball out, the fact that the ball was still moving shows intent on the defenders part.
If that's a second yellow then it's also a straight red!
All players taking a free kick with an opposing player near can kick the geebies out of the opposing players when attempting to play the ball?? Must be a new rule that can be applied to the letter of the law!
We're never getting a sending off like this again, I promise you that
Really ? Are you forgetting the martinelli double yellow card in one go ? Remember the var said they forgot to draw lines for an offside call that cost us points ..the newcastel match were the ball goes out if play/gabby gets pushed/ goal was offside all the one go ...and you think its gona stop why ?
@@anthonyspeers5449 And Tomiyasu sent off for a throw in
@@anthonyspeers5449so accurate and true… makes the win SO MUCH SWEETER. Keep logging them, make a speech when we win the league 😢😮🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Anthony Gordon’s goal - Newcastle,No red card for Mateo Kovacic - Man City,Ivan Toney’s goal - Brentford,Disallowed Gabriel Martinelli goal - Man Utd ,Red card and penalty - Wolves,Martinelli 2 yellow cards in 3 secs..It's getting couriser and couriser
Honestly this is how arsenal lost the pl championship last season. Last year the referee did exactly the same.
Your that league is corrupt and arsenal fans and other fans will continue to deal with in one way or the other every season
Absolutely 💯, that's exactly how we lost it last season.
@@sibusisodlamini9992 sure
Deluded!😂😂
Yeah, yeah for 20 years referees cost you the title.. for your frustrations,
You're not going to win this pl for 5 years to come.
The level of mental gymnastics people are doing to defend this red card is unreal
They are now all rules experts
It’s not a red card, it’s a 2nd yellow. Which ultimately means a red.
@Mberrybb It shouldn't have been the second yellow because the Brighton player rolled the ball towards Rice's leg and the ball touched Rice's right foot
Rice looked down and slightly flicked the ball out of his path, all the while the ball was moving.
Rice didn't move towards the ball the ball was rolled towards him and you can't legally take a free kick with a moving ball.
@@Mberrybb Even the referee has apologized, so how is this even a debate now
@@ryancummins8067 ball rolling or not if rice flicks the ball off the pitch, it’s still delaying play.
They will give cards by the law if it's Arsenal, if not they will use game flow and common sense.
I am sick with this,we know who are behind this but let's see what we can achieve . Let's go Arsenal, go Arsenal,go Arsenal 💪💪💪💪🥰
They don't want Arsenal in the league, simple as that,
Every season there must be something like that..
Making excuses for epl referees who continue to be inconsistent and seem to get worse every year!
Letter of the law seems to be their defense mechanism, Why is Arsenal the lesson to other clubs. Why didn't they use the same law on other matches that did the same thing😂😅
Kavanagh knew he was being beyond harsh, it wasn’t just one call during the entire game he was favouring Brighton. To be honest if the PGMOL wasn’t a mates club he wouldn’t referee another game for allowing his own bias to impact his decisions.
Exactly what is said. You don't need anyone to tell you the referee was compromised. The FA should sit there and just be defending referees. It wasn't just the card, but largely he hardly gave Brighton cards for harsh tackles but dishes to Arsenal
I bet this story will still be told come the end is the season
By Arsenal fans. No doubt
Arsenal fans with a victim mentality
Darren Lewis is talking nonsense, the ball was moving when Rice flicked it away.
On Average the Refs and VAR take 8-10 points off Arsenal ...this season it seems they are determined to take out even more.
Touching the ball after the whistle is a yellow. Period.
Everyone gets bad decisions against them! Grow up ffs!
Everyone gets bad decisions against them! Grow up ffs!
Crying babies.. 😛😛😛
It happens to every team idiot
@@Jonatan606 ball was moving , even the referee has apologized
how about danny welbeck suggesting for a yellow? isnt that a yellow card based on LETTER F LAW?
If De Bruyne does this he doesn't get sent off, i guarantee it.
Guranteed
He dives all the time and nothing happens so I disagree
@@michaelgreen2735 what exactly are you disagreeing with?
Gabriel Jesus also spent the whole summer preparing for this season 😢
It's high time that referees start coming for interviews rather than questioning the players and Managers about the mistakes of referees
Last year almost every game arsenal played against 12 men on the pitch at least. Very difficult to win against such teams. This year they are onto it again.
One referee covering up for another. That’s why the standard of officiating in the Premier League is deteriorating.
It’s as if the police stand by the road for a whole evening with the speed camera, but only fines one of the speeding cars.
That's the reason why the EPL refs couldn't improve. When the opportunity arises for the refs to take responsibility and learn, it becomes who you support. Applying the rules selectively is always problematic at any level or at any circumstances. It's hard to tell if it's incompetence or wanting to be in the news feeling important. In a league where a single point makes a difference in so many levels, having this kind of error can cost a championship or cause relegation costing millions in losses. This needs to improve
@@gettyasnake6855 yeah, u are right. because, referees should be impartial when officiating, otherwise they might be taking drastic steps just to deter arsenal. we fo not have world class strikers, what are they scared of. probably now arsene wenger encountered same problem, especially against manchester united. we just want to see our arsenal play, win every now and then. thst is all
Looking over this not even the letter of the law could justify that call and card it’s ridiculous. What the hell people are talking about I don’t know
2 years ago we were robbed against Brentford we lost a league,, last year were robbed against Newcastle we lost a league again,,, here we go again again
This letter of the law arguments is B S period! There were several incidents in the same game where the letter of the law were not applied. The letter of the law only apply to one team? Premier league referees are completely incompetent and don't use common sense when it is Arsenal. That's why Arsenal fans are tired and fed up with all these inconsistencies. Every season Arsenal drop points because of bad decisions by these useless and brainless Premier league referees. I can go on and on, on several instances to support my arguments. Arsenal is referee differently by these biased Premier league referees period!!!!
Darren is always biased towards Arsenal. Every time I watch him, he is looking to see arsenal lose every time. A pundit should say the truth irrespective of your affiliation
The truth is rice committed a yellow card offense and got a yellow for it.
Daren sounds feminine so his opinions don't matter.
That x ref. Never slates the ref for getting it wrong. Worst I've ever known the standard of refereeing in the last 2 seasons. It's killing the premier league. The three points Arsenal lost at Brentford cost them the title. The offside goal for Liverpool very nearly cost them the title. Pundits need to call it out.
An old adage sums this up, “rules are made for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools”.
The ball was still rolling, there was not any delay to restart, why then was Rice kicked?
Thank Ian Wright for not backing down off the moving ball argument! Law 13.2 “The ball must be stationary and the kicker must not touch the ball again until it has touched another player." Well what if it was literally never stationary to begin with bring it back to the free kick
I cannot fathom the fact that Veltman was allowed to roll the ball into Rice's feet who was simply walking away. What was he legally trying to achieve?
This referee is in the pocket of mancity and had complete bias against Arsenal. Because Declan is booked for a red card we lose him for vital games. There was no consistency in his refereeing.
Hahaha City paid Rice to commit the foul😂😂..
Man it happens move on 😢
Wow! Are you on strong medication? You should be😂😂
@@GermanChickenwing😂😂😂😂. If your not good at winning, you gotta be good at coming up with excuses😂😂😂😂
We enjoy a lot when we see cry babies 😂.. what does this situation have to do with Man City!!
The stupidity is insane!
The way the law is written, police should be pulling over every single driver doing 1 over the speed limit. They don’t. It’s common sense
You get a 10% allowance on speed limits! How would that translate to football? Foolishness!!
If you get caught, you can't point at another person as an excuse. YOU got caught.
Well done Ian Wright on that explanation
Not just the games evel EPL trophy is being decided by these corrupt officials
I think we will miss Nelson ESR and Eddie. All have helped us win crucial games.
Nelson, smith didn't win us any game last season
Sterling is going to kill it at Arsenal because Arteta knows him.
He will build his career trust mi I'm saying that
He will build his career in being a flop at farsenal. That’s for sure
Where is the ref by the way😂😂😂😂 He is hiding like a Coward😂😂😂😂
You can tell who’s kicked a ball and the maggot that who hasn’t.
These preimiership refs who have side gigs in Saudi,Qatar and UAE not conflict of intrest?
Do you really think City needs the help of refs to beat arsenal? Liverpool were much harder to beat. Their is no fear factor about Arsenal. Why didn't Liverpool make these complaints
The level of shittery talk by people to defend that red card is alarming. That wasn't a red card!!!!!!
Not everything that is right.... is right to do!!!
Chris kavanagh should go ahead and give Dalot a card for that delay against Liverpool, a card for Pedro in the dressing room to make things straight
Obviously the ref shows he hates arsenal
Of course all the pl refs do according to Arsenal fans
💤💤💤💤
He should should be biased FOR Arsenal right? Show he loves them. Right?
@@LionKingMCFC that not my point .if you watch the match you know I’m
Saying the fact .but no need to stress it .humans when something hasn’t happened to them ,they feel the other person’s is complaining.so don’t worry I bet your team will taste the soup too so no hard feelings
@Gmanchi the 19 other teams don't complain as much as Arsenal. The stats came out last season. Arsenal don't get the most calls against them l, it was liverpool, you weren't second or third.
another referee from greater Manchester refereeing arsenal differently, look at Parteys yellow. Yet Brighton can swing saka about with no card, no card for kick on rice, swing trossard about 1 rule for 1, 1 for another. Maybe we should refs from other parts of the country unlike 80% currently from manchester
How is sterling an upgrade to saka empty words.
Arsenal fan here and rice fucked us over been a spolt brat all game acted like a kid knowing the rules and now we loose him for basically brighton that time and spurs it's all he's doing .. but never the less brighton deserve to beat us badly easily .. hats off to the defence side of things.. I have no sympathy for rice and he needs to be great to be in my books again that's for sure loyabilety he was cost us that game 100 percent .. forget the fans justifying about Pedro and that shut up grow up
Corrupt referee
Referee are not consistent
If we are judging by the letter of the law, since the brighton player kicks the ball while it's moving, that should be considered kicking ball away, and thus delaying restart. Should have received yellow. Secondly, he kicked a deadball at a player by letter of the law that is considered the same as kicking a player, straight red card.
The "letter of the law" argument is just a cover for a mistake.
There is no mental gymnastics in this, the ball was kicked against Declan while he was on the move
If referee do allows freekicks to be taken occationally while the ball is rolling then sure it's matter of subjectivity (not black and white).. and in this case common sense should have been prevail!!
The Brighton man made a redcard offence by shoveling Rice than Rice's slightest touch leading to yellowcard. The brightonman never intends to kick the ball rather is to shovel Rice and deceight the fool ref knowing Rice was already on yellow card. It's a shame!😡
Do you think the player is idiot like you to kick Rice like that?
He immediately apologized and no body was thinking the referee would call a yellow card!
The situation is either red card for Brighton player or yellow for Rice.
Rice should not have been there in the 1st place. He's stopping play
@I.A.I.Y the Brighton players thought it was a yellow for rice. Danny welbeck said it before the ref did it.
@@I.A.I.Y don't you have a piece of brain to communicate without insulting people!
Please revise the heighlight taken from the cornerflag area that shows the level of Brighton'sman foot while trying to shoot and it was weighabove the level of the ball implicating it was to kick Rice not the ball. The Brightonman tried a gamble and it worked very well.
Rice did intentionally tap/kick the ball to the side. So he has placed himself in a potential position of getting that yellow. However ”The Letter of the Law” as so often quoted in comments about this, also applies to Law18.
The foul that lead up to this, watching it again it’s really questionable as to if that was a foul in the first place. However at the moment it certainly would have looked like one to the ref at the time.
With the free kick, firstly the ball was intentionally sent further up the field from the point of where the original offence took place. It should have been brought back.
The ball was moving, so a free kick should not have been taken at that moment.
Thirdly, it was blatantly clear to Veltman that as he took his kick he would have kicked Rice. You could even question if he was making any attempt to kick the ball, but he definitely intended to kick Rice and it was a sideways blow close to Rice’s knee.
Plus so many Brighton players running up calling for that second yellow is an issue that’s been highlighted as a problem in the game before, and is meant to be clamped down on. You could argue this was their attempt to deflect from what everyone could see which was Veltmans deliberate kick. Trying to focus the ref on that tap of the ball by Rice.
The red cannot be rescinded as it was due to a second yellow, also Rice did tap the ball away, and it’s a point that the authorities are trying to clamp down on so they cannot have an example rescinded.
But this whole saga highlights the need for a whole incident to be thought over by a Ref even just after the heat of the moment. There law 18 is applied. If it wasn’t for all the facets leading up to That tap of the ball then there would have been far less controversy over this incident.
Arsenal already made up those points by winning away to villa
Chris kavanagh just doesn't do his job right
Ronaldo
100 epl goals in 256 games
Halland
69 epl goals 70 games
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Haaland= striker
The B player cannot take a quick free kick because Rice was in the way, not because the ball is in the way. Look, if Rice had not been in the way, the B player would have stopped the ball and restart the game faster than Rice had been in the way
Incorrect, Delcan Rice IS walking away, Brighton player rolls the ball into the back of Rice's left heel and it rolls around past him before he toes it away. If the Brighton player wanted to take the FK he could have placed it directly where he was already standing. He knows exactly what he's doing and the useless reff completely fell for it.
Correct. The ball would've stopped rolling. Rice shouldn't have been there. He's the only Arsenal player there, trying to delay play.
Well he can't fly, can he? Don't make your bias so obvious.. They were down on the floor, you don't expect a player to get up and run away? Do you?
@sailendrapandey9847 yes get up and run away like every other arsenal player did. You should be at least 10 yards from the kicker.
@@LionKingMCFC Mate your an absolute plonker lol.
Chris Roy says the game is revolving but accidentally it always happens with the same team something very suspicious, Chris kavanagh seemed like he even never wanted to know as to whether the ball was still rolling or not, two never cared as to whether cheat man veltman really had to kick rice up the knees
Does he actually believe Veltman was going for the ball? 💀
the ball was still moving!!!!!!!
Guys, slow down with Haaland numbers as he will get injured soon.
Everyone knows that mm
Going forward what should we expect from the refs this season
Lol why are arsenal fans so angry about this game. They didn't even play well with 11 players.... Arteta is becoming so defensive , even against Villa, maybe he doesn't want to lose any game thinking that's the only way to beat city but it's killing the teams creativity going forward 😂😂😂😂😂😂
What happened to the player that kicked Rice after he rolled the ball? Are you allowed to kick people in the game
Sterling an Upgrade to Saka ???? wtf is this dude smoking For real ????
Can’t believe these pundits refer football rules as laws! There is no comparison because there is mechanism for appeal, and hence little justice involved! There are few thoughts put into these written rules, and the referees are severely unqualified and incompetent to enforce them. They are applied haphazardly and the commentators have no moral courage to point out the inadequacy of the refereeing body for fear of sanctions. It is plain stupidity!
They are not rules. They are laws. World soccer is governed by the "Laws of the Game" or sometimes called LOTG.
I hope the next time somebody tries to “delay the restart” against us gets caught by the ref and gets a yellow card. I wonder if it will happen……..
the guy on the far right is a clown
Maybe it's time to take the Saudi Pro League more seriously! Im sure they have better officiating there ....
Howard Webb with explanation was only a reflection of his past, just biased, the league has issues to sort
The ball moving is irrelevant.. If Rice booted that ball out of the stadium, he would still get the yellow..Soft yes but still a yellow in the eyes of the law
Don't be daft, if we're following "the letter of the law" you can't take a free kick until the ball stops moving, so Rice didn't interfere with the free kick
@HazeFC. Dude use your brain. It's not about the free kick but time wasting..
You are a hypocrite
For siding the rules? Ok then@@ansumanacamara9335
It’s very relevant. A free kick can’t be taken with a moving ball,
More than half the reds were poor decisions
yeah, we just want a fair and just game. nothing preposterous, just a good and honest game.. are arsenal that much of a threat, because that would mean we will never achieve greatness. manager mikel arteta will always be opposed. it is not fair going to a game when the boys and our manager mikel arteta already knows what the outcome will be. since, we tend to get ostracised & excommunicated on every game to date
Who the hell is this black dude? Does he know football? To even blame Rice. And he is talking to Wrighty, unimaginable.
He's Journalist 😂😂😂. I think one of the newspapers
I dont think the refs are biased at all i think they are all just shit at their jobs and thats a problem when you have the best league in the world but the worst refs.
Arsenal were having a good game. The Brighton defender was in defence. If the Brighton player could have taken the free kick quickly Arsenel were effectively playing with 10 men because Rice was totally out of position and could not affect the game. When Pedro kicked the ball away the nearest Arsenal player was in Fulham so Pedro was hardly affecting the game.
Letter of the law!
Darren Lewis’s brain is hooked on Arsenal bias . He belittles sporting excellence because he was never an athlete. To have the right to have a big mouth and be allowed to spout bias is sad ! He seems a Champion Lover who keeps his favor from one previous winner to the other ! That is never the spirit of sport . That is not the spirit embraced by people who have experienced playing sport !
I’m not Arsenal fan, but they need to move on from this already. If you let this in your head for the rest of the season, you won’t get there! It’s the same mentality of a team hitting the cross bars 8 times, and the opponents come down and score a winning goal. You will never see City doing this!!!
Explain pedro
No red card is valid for Arsenal...but for the others it is, I know you're desperate to win the league..... sorry this not how to win premier ship
Keep crying… 😅
It was a defo a red, no argument.. nobody’s talking about Declan’s amateur act. When you are already booked its silly to kick the ball that way. Whether you kick the ball a mile or an inch you still kicked the ball. No debate.
Хигли ты больше в сдендофф не играешь
The bias here by wright is a bit sad he’s usually pretty fair ..no one is talking about the 15 seconds before that rice tries to use flair an be clever in the corner skills he doesn’t have an veltman took it off him an shield him he couldn’t even dangle veltman in the corner the player he thought I could try this on he then loses that battle an out of frustration on a yellow makes a stupid mistake jsut get way from the ball walk away get into position he tried to stop the ball he then kicks the ball it’s a yellow it’s stupid I don’t like that they don’t point out his frustration when he loses the ball in the corner
I hope the next time somebody tries to “delay the restart” against us gets caught by the ref and gets a yellow card. I wonder if it will happen……..