I like playing this video at 0.75 speed. It sounds like WillE is drunkenly talking about Cataclysm while losing all hope or reason to live. Perfectly emulates how I feel about it too. Jokes aside, this is an awful lot of effort to put into a guide - thank you for everything you've done for us.
Haven't watched the entire video yet, but i admire and respect the work that has been put into this content, i'm a huge fan, so here's my like! keep it up! ~
9:40 Eye for an Eye does a fair amount of damage, but depends largely on the fight. Best used on fights with lots of aoe raid damage. On festergut for example, it did 64.4k damage.
I can't fault willy for talking at length to meet a time milestone for a video when he makes a 3 hour 20 minute one. Thank you for your efforts here's your like and comment
I had an issue with BM in WotLK as my pets couldn't retain agro, even when I used the right pets and abilities. I hope this isn't a issue in Cat. So far leveling has been fairly quick. I am almost 20 in a few days of casual playing. I also have been leveling a mage, and it's been fine so far. The differences from WotLK is something to get used to.
@wigdocter ah thought so glad I checked. No complaints about this video or anything but I miss WillE's hard hitting reports from the front lines of classic WoW!! Not so many of those videos recently. What gives?
Arms becomes via!ble in all areas.. and that in itself is overwhelmingly enjoyable compared to the limitations of choice in previous expansions or vanilla.. LOVE IT, warrior becomes just THAT MUCH MORE FUN
Copium more, arms was better at tbc pve and pvp, vanilla pvp, lk pvp and pve early.. cata suck ass and warrior is so boring to play (thanks to retail like gameplay) don’t talk when u know shit poor kid
I remember when the first pvp season of Cata came out...I played triple DPS with 2 friends with myself a Ret paladin. They were not in a good spot, but the "last word spec" was OP. Essentially tunnel a player and have the paladin heal your team with last word. Line up kills on the paladins wings CD. Was a fun time and we got 2200 off that.
The old wrath of the lich king glyph of holy light made it so holy light would heal five people around the main objective for a percentage. That's what Holy Radiance is now but better. The tier bonus seems like a complementary thing.
after watching ur wotlk picking guide 1231231231 times i frenkly am addicted to ur guide videos of sewerl hours and im not quite sure why is that ?? xD
So will raids only take one disc priest again? Thinking I may need to go disc/ holy but would rather go disc/ shadow. Holy is my favorite spec but it’s just never what people want
Fights in the first two tiers are allegedly going to have people have to spread a lot which isn’t very good for disc’s atonement spreading and barrier CD. So if Holy is your preferred spec i’d go with that bruv. Your through put and CD’s will be alot more useful.
I been playing for about 3 or so weeks, ret pally freaking is the biggest damage dealer within the game now, I mean it crazy but im hearing blood dk is busted
If it is, it's because youtube is a wonderful platform that totally doesn't copyright strike, demonetize and all the other wonderful stuff for no reason, nope that totally doesn't happen.
For fury warriors, i know not as strong as arms but i heard for single minded fury and titans grip, theres not much of a damage difference between the 2. Can anyone confirm if its true or false?
- Played enhancement shaman back when Cata was retail -mostly PvP - Knows will play enhancement shaman in Cata classic -mostly PvP - Perhaps a little bit of resto druid - Snaps fingers - Hits play
Cata was a great expansion, people were pissed about the overworld changes, but dungeons were good, raids were good (minus dragon soul), pvp was fun, new zones were really cool and thematic, and questing became way more comprehensible.
I need someone to teach me how to be a warrior, I didn't understand how everyone plays with so few button keys, when there are like 50 skills and they need specific stance to use.
Guilds thinking discs are going to be as powerful as in wotlk but they actually suck in tier 11 and 12 because of the dmg patterns in the fights and because they need tons of mastery to scale which lacks at start of the expansion.
@@badass6300 it's true, they don't suck. But they clearly are not mandatory picks as the video says. Most fights in tier 11 and 12 are spready fights. targets won't get hit by the 15yds atonement smite, Barrier has pretty much no use in most of those fights, and healing is just waaaay waaay less than Holy which in fact gets the best healing cooldown because of classes being balance around 4.3.4. Discs are powerful and insanely strong in Dragon soul, where most fights do require a Barrier and Discs having tons of mastery apply insane shields. Before of that they are B healer which is not bad, but definetly not strong
Interesting. Is there any laid-back classes in pve. I saw warrior need to stance dance to use overpower on passive cd. Demo-lock wants to swap pets mid-fight. Is there any smooth specs with minimum micro-management?
This expansion was probably the most ridiculous for power creep I think. The tier set bonuses were so overpowered, it felt like Diablo devs were working on this shit or something.
I played Fury throughout Cata OG, and I was consistently in the top dps in my Heroic raiding guild, especially in T13. Fury can absolutely be good, especially later in the xpac if you know what you’re doing. You really have to maximize the CS windows since there’s no CS reset like there is for Arms, but the T13 4 set helps Fury considerably with CS uptime.
@@Valandril no idea what “capping” means, granted I’m over 40 now, so there’s that, but I suppose I can figure it out via context clues. That said, fury absolutely was stronger than Arms in T12, and in the hands of a skilled player vs an average player you absolutely could out-dps an arms warrior as fury in T13, as well as many other classes. I know because I was there and I mained it at the time and as I said, raided and cleared all Heroic raids (back before there were Mythics) and never once was out-dps’d by an Arms warrior, or most any other class save rogues with the legendary daggers… point is, I’m not saying that Fury is the best dps spec in Cata, or even that it’s better than Arms, necessarily… what I am saying is that it you know your shit and you’re actually good then it doesn’t really matter. I’m damn sure going to play Fury, and I expect I’ll top most other dps classes and Arms warriors because even over a decade later I still know how to maximize Cata fury dps. Anyways, have fun, play what you enjoy, and remember that it’s just a game.
@@phantom0456 an arms warrior that uses sweeping strikes well, will absolutely obliterate any fury warrior. the most important fight in t12, ragnaros, was such a perfect fight for arms, not a single class can get even close to their dps. Basically all singletarget fights are equal but all multitarget fights are a landslide victory for arms.
@@paradigmshift7541 im just saying the tool tip on deadly calm says it shares a CD with inner calm. Unless wowhead is wrong which they have been before then idk what to tell you lmao.
@@LeonDegrelle14 im not talking about the tooltip, clearly it says on the Deadly Calm tooltip that you can use it if Inner Rage is active, I'm just saying you can't stack Deadly Calm and Recklessness. That's just how the patch of Cata we're getting functions.
FF8 hater here. I've beat the game, I know how junctioning works, I've even gotten Lionheart at the beginning of disc 2, I know how to be overpowered. Here's my reasons: Drawing is ass. Yes I know I can get magic from morphing cards, that sucks too. Nobody wants to sit there and cast Draw 30+ times per character. This also makes junctioning ass. Better not cast any fire spells or my melee strength will go down, that makes so much sense! Level scaling is a terrible idea. I know it was to combat grinding, but grinding is what makes it possible for bad players to brute force a boss. Never mind the fact that it feels bad that you never get relatively more powerful. The story is absolute garbage. The minute you introduce amnesia into your plot, you've lost. Squall is boring. At least when Cloud is uninterested you can chalk it up to PTSD, mako poisoning, or just generally being in the military. Squall hasnt seen any combat until after you control him, and he's already a dick by that point. Triple Triad is overrated. Its not bad, but its not crazy good. Put a card down in such a position that its number is higher than the adjacent card. How groundbreaking. The music is good. The cutscenes look good for their age. Thats the best I can say.
STRONGEST CLASSES IN CATA; MULTIDOTTERS!!! Anyone who played cataclysm on retails should know about this! Sorry melee but cataclysm is all about AOE and multiple targets!
MM Hunter still good for ragnaros. tier set gave good aoe blast for ragnaros adds, thats why a lot of ppl will still play it if they cant play 6 boomkins
This is just the earlier vids stuck together. Next, do all the baseline changes parts only stuck together, then only the talents stuck together, then only PvE performance of all classes stuck together, then only pvp stuck together :) = even more videos :D
Love your videos. But. This was way to fast. I couldn't keep up. Maybe break it up by role. Tank Melee Ranged Heals. This is not a bash. Your videos are awesome and i appreciate your work.
Its not like he reads half of the spell abilities wrong or anything. You can tell these video's just exists so that Wille can live rent free. I have never seen so many shameless errors in a video, he didnt even check, he just edited it, uploaded it and called it a day
metallica5252: "cata sucks to me, you guys are wasting your time because I want you to agree with me. go back on the sod servers they are dying rn because I'm all alone in my Narcissism, worst expansion ever made because I don't like it so you shouldn't either." Fixed it for you idiot.
this is awesome thank you for putting the time in to make a video like this. I like how in depth it is
Glad it was helpful!
@@WillEmmo Responding to the comments of your own alt account now i see ?
I just found your channel and was gonna listen to all the videos individually at work, now I Can listen to this instead 🥰 amazing work! 👍
You must be a forklift driver if you have the time and brain space to digest so much useless information at work
Propably makes more money then you😂 , what a comment @@MoonTurky
When you said ULTIMATE, you meant it!
I like playing this video at 0.75 speed. It sounds like WillE is drunkenly talking about Cataclysm while losing all hope or reason to live. Perfectly emulates how I feel about it too. Jokes aside, this is an awful lot of effort to put into a guide - thank you for everything you've done for us.
Haven't watched the entire video yet, but i admire and respect the work that has been put into this content, i'm a huge fan, so here's my like! keep it up! ~
I appreciate that!
slept right through it. perfect
Arcane mage was just fine for leveling in WotLK. Well any of the trees would've worked. I am now trying frost, as arcane was always my goto.
9:40 Eye for an Eye does a fair amount of damage, but depends largely on the fight. Best used on fights with lots of aoe raid damage. On festergut for example, it did 64.4k damage.
im not planing to play cata again, but i gotta say its really fun to level a prot warrior in the prepatch
Video ends at: 3:22:33
Well.
I know what my next 3.5 hours are booked for, apparently.
perfect listen for when I'm dig dig digging
Thank you so much for this!! As a new player I was completely lost on classes lol
Perfect set up. I am flipping between Hunter, Shaman and Druid and they are all lined up perfectly in a row. It’s perfectly splendid.
say "perfect" again.
That's cringe af tbh
Cant wait to watch this at 1.5x speed 10,000 times until classic mop drops
Same. Maybe then we'll have decided on a main!
its not classic mop
Ok bott
The wow community: Mentally unstable men who look forward to things that have been released 15 years ago
@@MoonTurky tell that to people who still play OSRS
I can't fault willy for talking at length to meet a time milestone for a video when he makes a 3 hour 20 minute one. Thank you for your efforts here's your like and comment
I had an issue with BM in WotLK as my pets couldn't retain agro, even when I used the right pets and abilities. I hope this isn't a issue in Cat. So far leveling has been fairly quick. I am almost 20 in a few days of casual playing. I also have been leveling a mage, and it's been fine so far. The differences from WotLK is something to get used to.
Just FYI you mentioned that hpala was the only magic cleanse in cata but rsham can also do this by default.
Holy's talent "Speed of Light" is their new small sprint, only for holy. Usable every few seconds everytime they use divine protection.
Is this just the individual videos edited together into one?
yes
@wigdocter ah thought so glad I checked. No complaints about this video or anything but I miss WillE's hard hitting reports from the front lines of classic WoW!! Not so many of those videos recently. What gives?
Arms becomes via!ble in all areas.. and that in itself is overwhelmingly enjoyable compared to the limitations of choice in previous expansions or vanilla.. LOVE IT, warrior becomes just THAT MUCH MORE FUN
Copium more, arms was better at tbc pve and pvp, vanilla pvp, lk pvp and pve early.. cata suck ass and warrior is so boring to play (thanks to retail like gameplay) don’t talk when u know shit poor kid
I remember when the first pvp season of Cata came out...I played triple DPS with 2 friends with myself a Ret paladin. They were not in a good spot, but the "last word spec" was OP. Essentially tunnel a player and have the paladin heal your team with last word. Line up kills on the paladins wings CD. Was a fun time and we got 2200 off that.
Same here I we ran 2 ret blood DK. Fun times
The old wrath of the lich king glyph of holy light made it so holy light would heal five people around the main objective for a percentage. That's what Holy Radiance is now but better. The tier bonus seems like a complementary thing.
after watching ur wotlk picking guide 1231231231 times i frenkly am addicted to ur guide videos of sewerl hours and im not quite sure why is that ?? xD
Always bringing great wow content, cheers homie 👍
The T13 Ret 2pc bonus was huge back in the day, so much so that Blizz made Judgment grant 1 holy power baseline starting with Mists.
awesome thx willie ❤
Great vid so far at 1:16:21 is that a video of Brang? It looks like this hunter i used to watch back in the day and learned how to use a pet properly
Like this if you’ve changed mains a billion times already like me!
The title for this vid is a tongue twister lol
So will raids only take one disc priest again? Thinking I may need to go disc/ holy but would rather go disc/ shadow.
Holy is my favorite spec but it’s just never what people want
Fights in the first two tiers are allegedly going to have people have to spread a lot which isn’t very good for disc’s atonement spreading and barrier CD. So if Holy is your preferred spec i’d go with that bruv. Your through put and CD’s will be alot more useful.
People sleep a lot on holy. If you know what are you doing holy is a beast.
I been playing for about 3 or so weeks, ret pally freaking is the biggest damage dealer within the game now, I mean it crazy but im hearing blood dk is busted
Really?
I member it being so shit and unpleasant i quit the game
Cata did so many class changes perfectly right.
Was this reposted? I couldve sworn Ive watched this video before but it says 4 hours ago lol
If it is, it's because youtube is a wonderful platform that totally doesn't copyright strike, demonetize and all the other wonderful stuff for no reason, nope that totally doesn't happen.
Its just his individual class videos in 1 big video
For fury warriors, i know not as strong as arms but i heard for single minded fury and titans grip, theres not much of a damage difference between the 2. Can anyone confirm if its true or false?
I watched th entire video.... il not sure whay class i want i think mage......❤
when is cata coming out i cant wait
may 20
Thanks for all the time you suck into this vid, love your content.
- Played enhancement shaman back when Cata was retail -mostly PvP
- Knows will play enhancement shaman in Cata classic -mostly PvP
- Perhaps a little bit of resto druid
- Snaps fingers
- Hits play
Ret pvp was god-tier in Cata
I also loved Feral tank
Cata was a great expansion, people were pissed about the overworld changes, but dungeons were good, raids were good (minus dragon soul), pvp was fun, new zones were really cool and thematic, and questing became way more comprehensible.
Dungeons were not good, pvp meh, gameplay horrible, raid meh, leveling horrible.. overall it’s trash
Get a life pal, chump TH-cam troll.
@@clerniaz131 opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one.
Iused my prot paladin to solo old raids and it took a huge hit to survivability in the prepatch. Gained a lot of offense tho, but I die super ez now
I need someone to teach me how to be a warrior, I didn't understand how everyone plays with so few button keys, when there are like 50 skills and they need specific stance to use.
Guilds thinking discs are going to be as powerful as in wotlk but they actually suck in tier 11 and 12 because of the dmg patterns in the fights and because they need tons of mastery to scale which lacks at start of the expansion.
Discs don't suck early on, they just aren't super powerful like in WotLK.
@@badass6300 it's true, they don't suck. But they clearly are not mandatory picks as the video says.
Most fights in tier 11 and 12 are spready fights. targets won't get hit by the 15yds atonement smite, Barrier has pretty much no use in most of those fights, and healing is just waaaay waaay less than Holy which in fact gets the best healing cooldown because of classes being balance around 4.3.4.
Discs are powerful and insanely strong in Dragon soul, where most fights do require a Barrier and Discs having tons of mastery apply insane shields. Before of that they are B healer which is not bad, but definetly not strong
@@Orgrimmar21 Yup.
Need to change this to your home page on youtube, its still the WOTLK one :)
now i can fall asleep better
please make one of these for war within
Interesting. Is there any laid-back classes in pve. I saw warrior need to stance dance to use overpower on passive cd. Demo-lock wants to swap pets mid-fight. Is there any smooth specs with minimum micro-management?
they are, its just that people are expecting min maxing at the bare minimum so it just seems like you need to play very micro intensive
every healer can dispell magic effects in cataclysm, not just holy paladins lol.
He meant that holy was the only paladin spec that gets that added functionality. It’s a talent option
@@Beardedgnome83 same as atleast for resto shamans.
Someone help me choose between shadow priest and sub rogue pls
unreal vid will mate nice one!
They’ll be more people playing Cata Classic than you can shake your WillE at!!!
😂 whoa
This expansion was probably the most ridiculous for power creep I think. The tier set bonuses were so overpowered, it felt like Diablo devs were working on this shit or something.
Aight, last video before bed
LOL every class is the same in cata what difference does it make. Paladins and warlocks have combo points, everyone gives +5% stats
Missing the streams mate come back 😢😢❤❤
what do you mean over 3h???
There are always fewer classes than I think… dunno why
I played Fury throughout Cata OG, and I was consistently in the top dps in my Heroic raiding guild, especially in T13. Fury can absolutely be good, especially later in the xpac if you know what you’re doing. You really have to maximize the CS windows since there’s no CS reset like there is for Arms, but the T13 4 set helps Fury considerably with CS uptime.
bro you're capping, fury was never ever as good as arms
If you play fury or arms equally well. Arms will hit harder, but blizzard could change numbers/glyphs like ret paladin wotlk.
@@Valandril no idea what “capping” means, granted I’m over 40 now, so there’s that, but I suppose I can figure it out via context clues. That said, fury absolutely was stronger than Arms in T12, and in the hands of a skilled player vs an average player you absolutely could out-dps an arms warrior as fury in T13, as well as many other classes. I know because I was there and I mained it at the time and as I said, raided and cleared all Heroic raids (back before there were Mythics) and never once was out-dps’d by an Arms warrior, or most any other class save rogues with the legendary daggers… point is, I’m not saying that Fury is the best dps spec in Cata, or even that it’s better than Arms, necessarily… what I am saying is that it you know your shit and you’re actually good then it doesn’t really matter. I’m damn sure going to play Fury, and I expect I’ll top most other dps classes and Arms warriors because even over a decade later I still know how to maximize Cata fury dps. Anyways, have fun, play what you enjoy, and remember that it’s just a game.
@@phantom0456 an arms warrior that uses sweeping strikes well, will absolutely obliterate any fury warrior. the most important fight in t12, ragnaros, was such a perfect fight for arms, not a single class can get even close to their dps.
Basically all singletarget fights are equal but all multitarget fights are a landslide victory for arms.
Warriors cannot use Deadly Calm and Recklessness together btw
Tool tip says its deadly calm and inner calm share a CD, not reck.
@@LeonDegrelle14 bro you can't use Deadly Calm and Reck, stop being dumb
@@paradigmshift7541 im just saying the tool tip on deadly calm says it shares a CD with inner calm. Unless wowhead is wrong which they have been before then idk what to tell you lmao.
@@LeonDegrelle14 im not talking about the tooltip, clearly it says on the Deadly Calm tooltip that you can use it if Inner Rage is active, I'm just saying you can't stack Deadly Calm and Recklessness. That's just how the patch of Cata we're getting functions.
FF8 hater here. I've beat the game, I know how junctioning works, I've even gotten Lionheart at the beginning of disc 2, I know how to be overpowered. Here's my reasons:
Drawing is ass. Yes I know I can get magic from morphing cards, that sucks too. Nobody wants to sit there and cast Draw 30+ times per character.
This also makes junctioning ass. Better not cast any fire spells or my melee strength will go down, that makes so much sense!
Level scaling is a terrible idea. I know it was to combat grinding, but grinding is what makes it possible for bad players to brute force a boss. Never mind the fact that it feels bad that you never get relatively more powerful.
The story is absolute garbage. The minute you introduce amnesia into your plot, you've lost.
Squall is boring. At least when Cloud is uninterested you can chalk it up to PTSD, mako poisoning, or just generally being in the military. Squall hasnt seen any combat until after you control him, and he's already a dick by that point.
Triple Triad is overrated. Its not bad, but its not crazy good. Put a card down in such a position that its number is higher than the adjacent card. How groundbreaking.
The music is good. The cutscenes look good for their age. Thats the best I can say.
STRONGEST CLASSES IN CATA; MULTIDOTTERS!!!
Anyone who played cataclysm on retails should know about this!
Sorry melee but cataclysm is all about AOE and multiple targets!
Jokes on you Unholy DK is both melee AND a multi dotter :P
@@auirex4557 Yeah let me multidot from distance.. Not. Have you seen mages with procs on packs?! Exactly point proven, go practice on normal modes
@@janjan55555 mad as fuck you can't parse like me. Improve ya skills.
Horde=Dislike.
my OCD hates that you didnt put the classes in alphabetic order
its by armor type
101 different ways to post the same videos
Glad someone said it. Same shit different video
1 way to not click it to find a reason to whine because they don't like it.
Ans using botts
He compiled all the videos into one big guide for easier viewing? Grow some brain cells.
@@James-sj1usthey can’t grow brain cells, they’ve been retarded since the game released.
You're the best! Cata 5ever
6ever!
7EVER
2:09
MM Hunter still good for ragnaros. tier set gave good aoe blast for ragnaros adds, thats why a lot of ppl will still play it if they cant play 6 boomkins
mana gives spellpower in cata?
Nice
Wil-late
This is just the earlier vids stuck together. Next, do all the baseline changes parts only stuck together, then only the talents stuck together, then only PvE performance of all classes stuck together, then only pvp stuck together :) = even more videos :D
Massive!
hi
3 f ing hours??? :D wtf
Quick tip: DO NOT PLAY PALADIN!
I quit wow cause they turned my paladin into a lame slow rogue
CATA XYNTA
friends, are there gonna be any FRESH servers?🎉
No, they begin cata halfway into 4.2 and you will get free catch up gear so you can skip the first raid tier entirely
Another same video great
Love your videos. But. This was way to fast. I couldn't keep up. Maybe break it up by role. Tank Melee Ranged Heals. This is not a bash. Your videos are awesome and i appreciate your work.
resto druid sucks plays pretty much like retail
I hate the holy power pa,lied. Just catch. The others up. Even healing needs it and that’s a. Big change
Blizzard, please give us only 3 Classic versions, we don't want Cata and so on.
Why in the hell did you make a 3 hour video for this? I only clicked here to post that this is ridiculous.
Milking content.
Its not like he reads half of the spell abilities wrong or anything.
You can tell these video's just exists so that Wille can live rent free. I have never seen so many shameless errors in a video, he didnt even check, he just edited it, uploaded it and called it a day
@@MoonTurky you’d think he would check since its the 2nd time uploading all the videos lol.
Ultimate milking, sell the same game twice
Well, the problem is people are looking forward to shit that came out like 10 years ago lmao
No one wants to watch 3hours of you fam
What class should you pick? The uninstall button, Cacapissm will never be classic.
OK doomer
Who hurted you?
you come up with "cacapissm" all by yourself?
cata sucks, you guys are wasting your time. go back on the sod servers they are dying rn because you guys are trying the worst expansion ever made!
metallica5252: "cata sucks to me, you guys are wasting your time because I want you to agree with me. go back on the sod servers they are dying rn because I'm all alone in my Narcissism, worst expansion ever made because I don't like it so you shouldn't either."
Fixed it for you idiot.
Word