Who needs a fancy modern drill with a price tag the same length as a phone number when you have a MF30, which is still more than capable of drilling a crop & running at less than 1/2 the weight & compaction. Long live the MF30.
Thanks for the video. Liked the drone footage. When you eventually do the 550 engine swap and tank clean that would be good to see on video. We had an old drill when I was farming which was a converted horse drill (tractor draw bar fitted) and it used wheels (similar to a water wheel) with cups fitted to pick the seed up the wheels could be changed and there were different sized cups for different seed. It was very slow speed wise and you had to keep the speed down to a fast walk (horse speed). But it was very accurate and you could plant anything grass, kale seed wheat barley oats with the correct wheels and cups fitted. The wheels were very easy to change. I last used it in 1979 to plant 70 acres of permanent grass seed mix and we had almost no seed left it was so accurate. The last bit was a job as we had to keep pushing seed to the wheels so they were covered in seed. Pulled it behind a MF 135. Old machinery if looked after and maintained and dry stored is still up to the job. It was sold when Dad had his farm sale and I often wonder what happened to it. Museum hopefully and not the scrap yard.
Thankyou for a brilliant video. Corn drilling just like my Dad did down here in Kent. Great to see both the MF550 and MF30 drill running althought we used an MF135 to pull the drill and also we drilled the headlands first too. Proper farming...👍
Be interesting to compare the cost/acre of this setup with the cost/acre of a more modern outfit. Work rate may be slightly lower, but I would bet that ground pressure is lower with the 550 and 30, fuel consumption/acre I would imagine is lower, the 550 isn't depreciating at all, probably appreciating in fact, the 30 probably slightly appreciating too so really labour is the only thing that will cost more. Maintenance and insurance are lower than modern kit, no leasing payments. And as an owner driver on a family farm, what else were you going to be doing? There's a lot to be said for running older machines like this if you have the necessary skills to operate.
Good video yet again. it proves you don't need modern expensive High tech kit to cover the acreage involved, just serviceable kit, (fuel bug excepted). It means that you do not have to rely on outside help. Looking forward to the engine change and fuel tank clean. Great drone footage.
Another great video Dan thanks for sharing love to see the older Masseys still working and doing the job,I doesn’t need to be big hi tech to do the same job ,keep the videos coming
Had exactly same set up in 70s early 80s same drill with same wheels but pulled by a 265 and used my 550 to bring seed out to field on an old 1950s massey trailer
Great video. I love seeing old kit, still doing a great job in exactly the way it was designed for. It will last for years to come yet. The cost savings over a new drill will be enormous.
Brilliant video Dan, so good too see you running the old equipment, ( a pleasure too watch) I think modern equipment is pricing it self out of the market, for the small farm business.
Our 4metre 30 came with 28inch wheels on it 11/28s really good machine even fitted for 12metre tramlines 👍 looking forward to the 550 engine swap 👍 great video 👌
Back in 1974 I used the same drill behind a Massey 188 mp then in 1976 same drill behind 590. Massey 178 tilling with Amazone powerharrow. And then pulling the chain harrow turned upside down after the drill. It was all spring sowing in this area then.
Well that was a complete contrast to watching farmer Phil on a 9RX!🤪 Lovely to an old school setup happily plodding up and down. Pity about the diesel bug, I know the pain 😩
The original idea of using a MF 30 drill on a MF tractor and connecting the coulter ram to the trailer tipping pipe, running it on pressure control on the quadrant for depth, never really caught on. Operators tended to use an independent spool and rely on moving the rams lower pin to get the right depth. Which was ok as long as the field soil type was relatively constant.
dan put some anti bug killer in your main tank when you fill up next time at double rate for the first time and in each machine with double rate and once you have got on top of it you will be fine again
Thanks Dan. Not a vintage question but what is the wheat cultivar you sowed? Some winter wheats sown here in NZ are UK cultivars so I might be familiar with it.
What on earth happened to drills these days that look something from Mars, them Massey drills do the same jobs for a fraction of capital investment, I’d like someone to explain why these drills went out of fashion?
Some folk would argue the following; 1. Inaccurate so overlapping of seed is an extra cost. But one could maybe counter that by using a tractor with GPS. 2. Operating width. It's a small drill compared to today's so takes longer. 3. Old technology. Some might argue less reliable delivery of the seed which has a cost of losses and possibly repair costs. 4. No option as yet for seed delivery data for field analysis of the crop. 5. There could be more? But not being a farmer and only having experience on beef and dairy farms l have probably left out some bigger reasons! 4.
@@JonDingle maybe but from experience they were or are fairly accurate on seed rates, and of course as long as the seed is covered properly it grows as well as any other modern drill, l get it that it’s small but at the end of the day we still managed to finish drilling on time, my next door neighbour farmer as others, farm over a 1000 acres and that’s all they had at one time, but obviously they move forward which makes sense really lol
@@glennlingard7851 Yeah fair enough l cannot disagree. I just put some possible reasons why this mechanical tech is seldom used these days. Personally, l don't like modern high tech tractors. Give me the old stuff everyday!
Who needs a fancy modern drill with a price tag the same length as a phone number when you have a MF30, which is still more than capable of drilling a crop & running at less than 1/2 the weight & compaction. Long live the MF30.
That's so nice to see driving in a straight line with no GPS and it's much better for the soil than all that big heavy kit
Nice bit of driving there Dan no GPS old school 🤔👍👌
Top video squire! No stupid music just great video of classis machinery in action with informed commentary! Best regards.
Very nice outfit you have there, doing a great job. We had a 30 drill with the row crop wheels back in the 80s.
Well done. Thank you for sharing.🚜
Thanks for the video. Liked the drone footage. When you eventually do the 550 engine swap and tank clean that would be good to see on video.
We had an old drill when I was farming which was a converted horse drill (tractor draw bar fitted) and it used wheels (similar to a water wheel) with cups fitted to pick the seed up the wheels could be changed and there were different sized cups for different seed. It was very slow speed wise and you had to keep the speed down to a fast walk (horse speed). But it was very accurate and you could plant anything grass, kale seed wheat barley oats with the correct wheels and cups fitted. The wheels were very easy to change. I last used it in 1979 to plant 70 acres of permanent grass seed mix and we had almost no seed left it was so accurate. The last bit was a job as we had to keep pushing seed to the wheels so they were covered in seed. Pulled it behind a MF 135. Old machinery if looked after and maintained and dry stored is still up to the job. It was sold when Dad had his farm sale and I often wonder what happened to it. Museum hopefully and not the scrap yard.
Thankyou for a brilliant video. Corn drilling just like my Dad did down here in Kent. Great to see both the MF550 and MF30 drill running althought we used an MF135 to pull the drill and also we drilled the headlands first too. Proper farming...👍
I just love the old gear...
What a lovely job you're doing nice straight drilling Awesome Dan
Thanks
Your very welcome.( Gordon )
Great to see that brilliant drilling set up. Really enjoyed watching it and wish it was me driving!!
Nice bit of filming, thank you.
Now that looks like proper farming! Sweet. 👍
Be interesting to compare the cost/acre of this setup with the cost/acre of a more modern outfit. Work rate may be slightly lower, but I would bet that ground pressure is lower with the 550 and 30, fuel consumption/acre I would imagine is lower, the 550 isn't depreciating at all, probably appreciating in fact, the 30 probably slightly appreciating too so really labour is the only thing that will cost more. Maintenance and insurance are lower than modern kit, no leasing payments. And as an owner driver on a family farm, what else were you going to be doing? There's a lot to be said for running older machines like this if you have the necessary skills to operate.
Good video yet again. it proves you don't need modern expensive High tech kit to cover the acreage involved, just serviceable kit, (fuel bug excepted). It means that you do not have to rely on outside help. Looking forward to the engine change and fuel tank clean. Great drone footage.
Another great video Dan thanks for sharing love to see the older Masseys still working and doing the job,I doesn’t need to be big hi tech to do the same job ,keep the videos coming
Had exactly same set up in 70s early 80s same drill with same wheels but pulled by a 265 and used my 550 to bring seed out to field on an old 1950s massey trailer
Great video. I love seeing old kit, still doing a great job in exactly the way it was designed for. It will last for years to come yet. The cost savings over a new drill will be enormous.
Brilliant video Dan, so good too see you running the old equipment, ( a pleasure too watch) I think modern equipment is pricing it self out of the market, for the small farm business.
Love the vintage Massey videos!
Our 4metre 30 came with 28inch wheels on it 11/28s really good machine even fitted for 12metre tramlines 👍 looking forward to the 550 engine swap 👍 great video 👌
Back in 1974 I used the same drill behind a Massey 188 mp then in 1976 same drill behind 590. Massey 178 tilling with Amazone powerharrow. And then pulling the chain harrow turned upside down after the drill. It was all spring sowing in this area then.
Great video dan, great to see the drill in action again. Just need the combine repaired for harvest next year, hopefully its a heavy crop.
Nice one Dan, that little 550 really was a good buy.
Well that was a complete contrast to watching farmer Phil on a 9RX!🤪 Lovely to an old school setup happily plodding up and down. Pity about the diesel bug, I know the pain 😩
550 great tractor except on a steep hill when you flick the multi power switch wrong way ,good way to quickly waken you up!
We had an MF 3o for years. Only issue was the fertilizer hoppers used to rust like mad, lots of brushing & red leading done in winter !
Hi Dan …. I guess no gps on the 550…. Are you lining up the front tractor wheel with the outside drill wheel mark ? Looks nice and straight
Great video again dan. 👌👌👍
Brilliant video 💪🏻 🏴
Lovely. Very tidy looking operation. I assume it doesn't tramline.
You kept it straight.
The original idea of using a MF 30 drill on a MF tractor and connecting the coulter ram to the trailer tipping pipe, running it on pressure control on the quadrant for depth, never really caught on. Operators tended to use an independent spool and rely on moving the rams lower pin to get the right depth. Which was ok as long as the field soil type was relatively constant.
Excellent as usual Dan 👍
Great video Dan do you have a massey Harris drill on metal wheels.
Looking forward to the engine swap and tank clean. Love the Thursday video slot
Great video again Dan, nice 2 c such a tidy old outfit working ,also nice 2 meet u and ur dad at dairy event last wk
I use an ,86 4m 30 currently, used several over 40 years! Don't have vintage tractor so claas atos is suitability compact ( dream outfit)
Great vid as always Dan,wud like to see some duel wheels on the massy for drilling,keep up the good work 👏
I see some of our American friends adding talcum powder when they fill the sower maybe that would help the seed flow.
Love your videos pal👍
Great vid 👍
dan put some anti bug killer in your main tank when you fill up next time at double rate for the first time and in each machine with double rate and once you have got on top of it you will be fine again
Thanks Dan. Not a vintage question but what is the wheat cultivar you sowed? Some winter wheats sown here in NZ are UK cultivars so I might be familiar with it.
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I may be missing something why do you drill the headland first.
Their land is light so it doesn’t really matter, plus obviously their drill and tractor aren’t heavy unlike today, that’s my reckoning anyway 🙂
No GPS so you have to because you wouldn't know when to pull in and out 🤔👍
@@malcolmtyler2565 that too but someone like him has the experience as well to do the headlands last I’ll bet.
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What on earth happened to drills these days that look something from Mars, them Massey drills do the same jobs for a fraction of capital investment, I’d like someone to explain why these drills went out of fashion?
Some folk would argue the following;
1. Inaccurate so overlapping of seed is an extra cost. But one could maybe counter that by using a tractor with GPS.
2. Operating width. It's a small drill compared to today's so takes longer.
3. Old technology. Some might argue less reliable delivery of the seed which has a cost of losses and possibly repair costs.
4. No option as yet for seed delivery data for field analysis of the crop.
5. There could be more? But not being a farmer and only having experience on beef and dairy farms l have probably left out some bigger reasons!
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@@JonDingle maybe but from experience they were or are fairly accurate on seed rates, and of course as long as the seed is covered properly it grows as well as any other modern drill, l get it that it’s small but at the end of the day we still managed to finish drilling on time, my next door neighbour farmer as others, farm over a 1000 acres and that’s all they had at one time, but obviously they move forward which makes sense really lol
@@glennlingard7851 Yeah fair enough l cannot disagree. I just put some possible reasons why this mechanical tech is seldom used these days.
Personally, l don't like modern high tech tractors. Give me the old stuff everyday!
@@JonDingle same here too but my problem is I’ve not had the chance to use modern tractors and equipment as what we have does the job quite well.
@@glennlingard7851 All credit to you then because the price of new machinery is too high unless you have output and turnover to pay for it.
Another great Vintage Thursday video Dan!
Sounds like there's crud in the tank blocking the little tank filter sticking up inside.