2002 Honda Civic Si 'EP3' Hatch - One Take
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- This 2002 Honda Civic SI is an odd bird in the Honda family, in North America at least. This hatchback body style was the only way you could get an Si for this generation, and you couldn't get the hatchback at all with any other powertrain. These Hondas are best remembered for their signature dash-mounted shifters (also used in the Element), but make great secondhand practical runabouts. This example features basic suspension modifications as well as an intake.
Thanks for doing an Ep3! I have an '03 all stock with coilovers and it is SO practical. When i moved I could fit ~8 moving boxes in the back with the seats down. Another time I transported a giant 40" tube TV in the back. If I was a little shorter I think I could sleep back there... Mini-Odessey FTW!
You dont have an ep3. Youve a ep2.
Fabien Durand A year later, but even if you’re right you wouldn’t of known that from what he said. Tell me why you think that?
@@noahbell7297 another year later
The ep3 was never available in the states, ep3 is the model for the type R only available from Japan with a k20a making 212bhp or a European version with a k20a2 making 200bhp. Biggest difference from the us k20a3 is only the intake camshaft has vtec whereas both intake and exhaust are vtec on the k20a/a2 making them more powerful and rev much higher. There are many other differences between these and the SIR civics America got such as more chassis strenghtning seam welding ect, limited slip differential bodywork ect. Unfortunately America never got the real type r so you couldn't classify it as an ep3.
Bro I have a ep3 I can’t find the steering fluid reservoir. Can you help tell me where that reservoir is located? Thank you in advance
@@remonmiranda1327 I sold my car last year, sorry! I miss it. I can't remember off the top of my head, its probably near the firewall? I would look on rock auto dot com look up the part and hopefully it will have a schematic to show you where it goes. good luck!
11:24 must be the money lmao
haha t_t
th-cam.com/video/5XhCGR6MoSE/w-d-xo.html
This guy seemed cool
Ayeeee
Matt never fails to make the jdm scene feel subculture. He always gives proper insight though, that's a plus
Car sounds surprisingly nice! I think he's right... it's all in the intake.
Nice car and nice dude. 👍
K20s sound lovely, the k20a2 specially.
Finally an EP3! My Canadian 2002 sir is converted to Type R specs but with a K24A2 from a 2007 TSX with. JRSC for 310hp and 290 tq! Great little car.
I did the same motor, but turbo. 415whp. Woot
Tyler Hunt Oh yeah mines has 416whp
lol. I'll be getting a retune to make that elusive 417whp.
this is not an ep3 :D
MrTemper yeah, it is.
The intake sound on these NA 4 bangers is just insane, reminds me a lot of Initial D lol
this one is very meek. check my vids for actual k20a type r.
The best looking civic, and yet the most overlooked.
I used to have one, 2004 Civic Si. Bought it brand new. It had an AEM intake, DC Sports Headers, Megan Exhaust System and a Buddy Club short shifter. It needed a little more power. It was/ is a great car to have. I recommend it to anyone looking for a hatch.
I used to have this exact car for 8 years. A black '02 Si.
That intake made the engine sound really good.
Matt: I don’t know my Honda engines
Also Matt: this needs a k24 swap 😂
Toss a K24A2 in one of these with some decent headwork, cams, nice exhaust, and a standalone, and these cars really wake up. I've always had a soft spot for these EP3s
Sergio Aguirre I agree. I used to have a DC2 I put entirely too much money into. I'm just saying if someone is set on modding a 7th gen Si, an engine swap is the best idea, imo
Redhead Metalhead so basically change everything...just buy the right car to begin with ffs
I'd stick with the k20. But use a k24 block. So you have the extra torque. And the higher rpm from the k20 head. Best of both worlds
THE TRUTH MACHINE Reking bullshitters everywhere! But most enthusiasts wont buy the right car. Its more fun doing work yourself.
I have a ep3 I was thinking to run a turbo till the A3 engine went out the swap in a k24 plus tbh 260 hp is enough power for me as a daily lol 😂
I love how he recommends a rally suspension set up and the kid says, well it hasn't bottomed out yet! And then Matt just pounds on it and makes the kid cringe the rest of the ride.
its a shame you yanks never saw an NA type r civic, would have been nice to see more content on them
I'm a yank, I put a jdm type r in my usdm. btw my chassis was built in the uk. check my vids.
I didn't know they never got that. I comment above on how now they are cheap enough for all the 18 yo to now have them. Well with a stupid insurance bill.
I did love the type R of this gen, untill about 18months ago. Which is when they all started popping up in kids hands, driving like idiots.
it is very hard not to engage vtec in this car. it begs to go fast.
Americans got the Integra Type R... In 97/98 and 2000/2001.... Pretty much a Civic lol.
@Sergio Aguirre just no
I liked the ep3 chasis so much, I swapped a jdm k20a type r into my usdm.
Mussh Wins how much is an used one?? I’m not a Honda fan but I always wanted to build a project on either this chassis or the RSX
Bought mine a few years ago the Type R version and it already has a k20a, all i did was get a LSD and man, This light body with 220hp is more than enough to have fun with, Throw some ITB's on and enjoy the N/A sounds!
Also sold it already.
Geo GMZ you can get one for around 6k and lower. They are very fun little cars. Don't let the "ricer" stigma stop you from buying one, It can bounce off 9000 RPM and 10 000 if you get it tuned.
I bought my ep3 in 2006 so I paid a lot more for the car than youll get one for now hahaha. kid in this vid said his car was between 4-5k. but for a project car, the ep3 is a pta. none of the parts fit right, you have to modify just about everything. but once you get it right, it is a crazy fun car. I like hatchbacks. I prefer the ep3 look to the rsx, but they basically have the same potential (I can fit a lot more groceries in my hatch).
Finally someone with an ep3!!
The RSX is an integra DC5 everywhere but in America, Matt was right owner was wrong (techinically)
Just saw one today with integra on the rear boot. Looked clean af with type r wing too
Miss this car. Had to sell it after owning it for 11yrs. But the 2017 subaru civic hatchback sport is growing on me.
I just bought a super clean Canadian SiR as my first car and these things are pretty much perfect.
I had the facelift EP2 Sport (UK) 110bhp 1.6L with a similar 6.6krpm redline for 5 years. I'm not surprised the US SI reviews very similarly. No LSD, less power, all the points you hit, definitely shortfalls. I installed a short shift and full aluminium bushings kit for the gearbox, if I can suggest anything, don't go full metal! Lovely notchy feeling with around 40-50% reduction in travel (3-4 really sees the difference) but it gets a little much, I'd say leave the shifter frame's bushings as rubber. The linkage and lever is good to swap. If you don't, you'll get a real "ka-thunk" into 2nd and 4th on a regular basis. Standard suspension with sticky-ish tyres (Avon ZZ5s for the meager power) really woke it up. Even the EP2 1.6L came with a rear sway bar across the back of the boot floor. Not sure about your comments on removing those as I only added a front one myself for a short time, even then that didn't quite fit with the 1.6, as the 2.0 has a shallower intake manifold. If there's anything I would suggest with a high miler, it's engine bushings. Do NOT replace all of them with poly. Get fresh OEM (equivalent) rubber, and if anything, only poly the rear engine mount. When they're worn, you get a lot of axle slap from the engine rocking on hard launches.
Best car I ever owned. Broke off a lot of more powerful cars in the hills. Never got to finish the k24 swap though 😢
I got my si 2002 on 2003 still working excellent almost everything stock only. intake short brand K&N and exhaust injen with carbon tip. 130k miles on it.
As an ep3 owner, I love mine. Type-s swap with 6 speed with 05. Final drive and my car is real fun, little ride height and h&r coilovers and 05 type s sway bars it's real fun, quick and does daily duty great. 180k on the clock and reliable as all hell
What year is your car?
Ep3s are an amazing base to start modding with, chasis is fun and good engine swap potential! Hopefully Matt will get back in one thats been swapped or tuned with a good suspension setup!
Looks very clean in regards to the body style and appearance. Sounds good too.
I always wanted one of these. Now they are pretty rare.
Thanks for sharing your car, Cameron (sp?). Seems like a genuinely nice, chill guy with a love for cars.
Made me miss my 2003 Type R, so light and nimble and super forgiving , could through it in any corner and somehow you make it to the other side 😁. Drove it like I stole it for 3 years and nothing went wrong .
Gotta drive them like that or they break. Tried to be nice to my 06 si for a year had to replace a bunch of shit started smashing limiter every day not a single issue for 3 years now
@@killem8057 I absoLUTely disagree with your statement. I've been a reasonable driver with my now almost 24-y/o. I've done nothing to it all those years other than regular maintenance. It's damn near perfect.
There's not much you can do to mod your car to make it slower, but this dudes done it all lol. I don't even want to know how much those rims were
Such a shame you never got the Type R. The extra power and higher redline really wake them up!
This car sounds really healthy with the unmistakable K20 sound. Ruined being so low.
I put a jdm type r in my usdm. my car is very fun.
Ace. I imagine it is with 220hp out the box!
ubanoob What holds this car back is the gearbox. Those spaced out gears and a five speed aren't good for this setup. However if the kid ever wanted to turbo the car itd be epic; but in this setup he needs to get the gearbox from a 05-06 RSX TypeS. 4.77 final drive with lsd.
I agree, the longer gearing would suit the power delivery of a turbo motor much better. The shorter gearing suits that narrower N/A power band at the top.
K series in an S2K 🤦🏻♂️. Digging the recent love you are giving civics though Matt.
K20a3 doesn’t have vtec. It has it only on the exhaust side so at very low rpms. It’s for fuel economy
Yeah you Americans got shafted with that EP. Here we got the best K20 for the EP3 Type-R. The engine was amazing, and coupled with the chassis and looks it was a killer.
Although not crazy fast, it could corner really fast. Get some life off oversteer and you've got a car that will demolish back roads!
The K20 hold well with a turbo or supercharger. Both increase torque massively -and power of course- and make it such a great car. Plus it has forged internals from stock so it'll easily handle the power. Coupled with a great LSD and you have yourself a fucking weapon lol.
You've done a nice job with that car mate, I'd actually put the wheels black and go full night rider lol
Man, that thing sounds good.
11:23 lol...'heyyyyy' 'must be the money' No one else caught that (Ref: th-cam.com/video/RtSDWq6HsJE/w-d-xo.htmlm43s)
Totally sick thumbnail. Props to the ep3 owner, but it looks too low, bro-bro.
Latigo in a Matrix XRS is where it's at. Yea, Mulholland is tight but you really shake down handling on a road as tight as Latigo. Matt is right, the roads are imperfect, but these hatches shine in Malibu.
I like that dude he’s chill
Also has 2004-2005 headlights!.... EP3 aka Mini Odyssey!
Beautyful EP3 nice vid
Hey everyone complaining. The owner did HIS car the way HE wanted, and HE enjoys it. It wasn't done for you. You do your cars how you want.
Needs a K20a2, like how us Euro guys got lucky with the EP3, 212HP of goodness in a light ass package. #3wheelcorners
Spray paint ? That paint looks pretty damn good to me. Also this model never received V-Tec in the sense that we all know. Still a very fun car. I have had one since 2007 but now is a full on swapped track vehicle.
There's vinyl wrap over the spray paint on the dash
Ahh.
"hatchbacks is where we do malibu"..
These are clean
I really want one!
Can someone explain what they were talking about around 5:00? What is "re flash" and what was the owner going on about the motor?
You take the front sway bar out to make it handle waay better
Ryan Botting said no one ever. It'll handle like a damp wet cloth lmao.
TANDEM boii nah cause it lets the front suspension flex more reducing understeer and improving grip in the front
I used to hate civics until I bought one as a commuter car.
needs a k20a/a2/z3 or k24 swap and proper suspension settings/height.
I miss that Rally Shifter!!!
I think what Matt meant to say instead of Integra was RSX
Those Tokiko blues wont last long at that ride height....Nice looking ride tho!
Hatchbacks is where we do Malibu
The suspension ruined the driving experience. With any 7th gen (or sporty daily at all) you really want just stiffer than stock dampers with some compliance and about an inch drop (like Eibach ProKit springs) that way you don't worry about bottoming out, and you still get some weight transfer and feedback. A K24 swap would be pretty nice for both power and torque and since it's such a light car, you can easily get away with keeping the swapped engine stock. I drive an EM2 (the non-Si variant, mine is an EX which is the Canadian-spec Si below this which was the Si-R, D17A2 SOHC) and I used Koni STRT dampers and Eibach ProKit springs along with 215 wide tires and 17 inch wheels, and as far as suspensions go, I wouldn't have it any other way. Subtle and effective upgrades go a long way with these Hondas.
Front sway bar, to induce oversteer.
I don't understand how people can drive cars this low, don't you have a heart?
Can you swap in a k20a2 head and eep k20a3 bottom end? Or just port k20a3 stock head? Which one, and why?
To the owner: RSX IS AN INTEGRA
Sean Gaines In japan people don’t can rsx integras because they have their own name
Kill Chriss in Japan they're called Integra's
He said TSX=Accord in Europe but still not right, the JDM Integra DC5 came with a k20, the best of the bunch actually
no dumb ass the integra is only type r k20 in japan, no integras exist here in U.S.
the owner was being pedantic because he and Matt weren't sure of each other's knowledge base of Hondas. There's no way a Honda owner doesn't know an RSX is an Integra
RAISE THE CAR BRO!
The US really got cucked hard with this car. The UK spec EP3 Type R was the best in its class at the time.
Dc5 Is an Integra. So you're not wrong.. Technically
clean af
9:09 is every Honda driver ever lol
Isn't the EP3 the type-r?
How does he treat his paint is that a ceramic coating?
He aimed for those pot holes
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda Civics with Spoon engines. And on top of that, he just went into Harry's and ordered three T66 turbos with NOS... and a Motec system and exhaust.
Jimmy lmaoooo
Jimmy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
#CooyPaste but that’s ok is still funny.. Is getting old but still some fun on it..
You won the comment of the day. Calling it now.
I've been seeing this comment everywhere lately. I die laughing every time.
this dude spews numbers and engine codes like a boss. Seems to know the entire honda lineup.
Andrew A Still, he said that the Integra never had a K20.
The US spec Integras never came with a K series. The USDM RSX came with a K series, which isn't called an 'integra' even though it is.
@@brad_a9088 word
@@ImadHadjersi because they didn't here
@@ImadHadjersi He meant USDM Integra, UK DC5 Integra is called RSX
Honda nerds are cool
..."hatchbacks are where we do Malibu"...Matt Farah 2017
I think he meant they had Sex on the Beach first? Wait, that doesn't have Malibu in it...
At the end Matt says "ayyyyy" and the kid says "must be the monayyy" 😳
I love that kid for it! LOL He saw the challenge and he accepted it.
Oh Yea! Civic hatchback love. Great vid
Imagine if he said “ this must be a d series right?”
D for delightful
Wait is this the type R.....18 ?hahahah
Martin Quin D for disappointing
@@theejoeylee 😂 the r18 is the most aggressive sounding code for a single jingle
@@NinaMango789 Seriously hahaha. Sad its been out like 14 years and still no love.
The K20A3 should have never made it into the "Si" EP3.
Welshy Acura couldn’t handle having a civic be faster than the rsx type s atthe time
What if they made it with the A2 on both the Type-S and EP3.
At the time, Honda was also touting the fact that their entire car lineup was ULEV rated. The A2 wouldn't have qualified for ULEV status.
I have owned a stock ep3 and one that had a K20a2 and 6 speed swap from an rsx type s. The swapped was so much better to drive. The gearing in the A3 is garbage in comparison to the close ratio 6 speed. You drop out of vtech any time you down shift on the 5 speed. Really though i think the EP3 would have been awesome if it game with the tsx engine and trans.
I think you're mistaken. Have you driven a DC5? That gearing is short as shit
9:10 Farah just kicked in yo!
Lmfao
LITERALLY EVERY VIDEO, YOU'RE HERE.. I start to wonder if you're just here for attention..
Bunka Fas Yep, you got me. How dare I enjoy TH-cam like every other car enthusiast, I’m such an attention seeking loser.
Hit a nerve much?
Al Denino edgy af
that bottom out made me cringe
Wich one....
Czar Gazzetti yes
must be the money. hahahaa. I like this dude.
i always thought this one was the best looking one from the outside of all civics
Ek Dawg
Not even lol. It's a Honda fit with some balls.
parrishwl EK9 99-00 is my favorite, then EM1 99-00 So, then these EP3's. Alot of people dont like an ep3, but I've always liked them. I just think they should have had the close ratio 6speed, and it would have felt a little quicker and been more fun to drive.
Bee Rice my favorite is ek and Fd2, fun fact Acura Canada designed the Mugen si design look up 2006 Acura CSX.
It looks like a mini-minivan.
I've owned 2 EP3's one for track and one for a daily driver , great car and with the right swap or modifications to the stock engine you'll have s nice little track car that's fun to drive ! I agree with some of the other commentators, the type r version of the EP3 should have been mentioned because that car is so much better than the US spec version !
Oh the EP3 ! A great, fun little "mini van" haha. ( owned one and would probably get another in the future !)
MiniVan Coupe!
Yup!
A mini van for little people! There's something about having a peppy car like this that is awesome though, and they are durable as hell plus a timing chain so you don't have that fear of snapping the timing belt and destroying the engine. At least I think I'm right on that last bit anyway....
It's a micro van lol
I like it, very clean.
That is a super-clean Si. A good friend of mine purchased one of these new and I loved to drive it. It had the quickest revving engine that I have ever experienced. I used to bounce off the rev limiter quite often when spiritedly taking off from a stop. You really hit it fast.
I really liked my friends Si when he purchased it but I think they look even better today. They have such a unique design. Honda sort-of borrowed from this design for the first gen Fit but I still like this better than the Fit. I think that this car has the perfect proportions for the design. The Fit looks skinny and long and these just look perfect.
Take care of that Si Cameron, there aren't too many of these around that haven't been abused and this one really is a beautiful one.
Without a doubt, my favorite Civic of all time
Lol I liked that Nelly reference in the end of the video
That was mint lmao
A lot of people in the UK much preferred the EP3 Type R over the FN2 Type R that replaced it because of the suspension setup. But many people in the US seem to really dislike the EP3 because of its looks and the 'lesser' suspension setup.
google images a stock 2002 usdm ep3 civic and you will see why no one wanted it. fugly isn't even close. lower it a bit and put in a proper power plant and yes, good car.
+Mussh Wins Meh I've seen worse looking cars than the EP3. In Europe, its much more common to see hatchbacks so we're use to the hatchback-look whereas in the US, they're rarer so whenever americans see one, they seem to get freaked out by its looks
smilepermile I prefer the ep3 over the fn2, but the fn2 was junk. But keep in mind, our ep3 was underpowered with a terrible 5 speed gear box and out 8th Gen was based on the fd2 jdm typeR. So that's the reasoning for the majority dislike for the usdm ep3.
+Benjamin Addison I'm with you on that one. I much prefer the looks of the EP3 over the FN2 too. With the FN2 only gaining 1 hp, more weight and cheaper torsion beam suspension at the rear (making it ride like a skateboard yet can't get traction), it was nothing to write home about.
Usdm ep3 is bad because of engine, electronic steering and suspension
Sounds AMAZING and love that hes got 160k on the clock.
problem with just lowering them, is the tie rods get pointed at super funny angles because they're high up. If you lower them a lot you have to get inverted tie rod ends and maybe even extra adjustable inner tie rods.
It's probably not even that stiff Matt.... It just doesn't have any suspension travel. There's a difference :P
Oh, and those shocks are kinda crap, more or less replacement shocks.
The owner is extremely smart, nice to see... so many owners don't know their specs.. this guy was on the dot.
Looking good in that EP3, the Si has always been a decent sporty car. They really should have brought over the EP3 Type R with 200 HP
Well, the dc5 integras have the k20
I don't get why they sell this as "SI" Here in South Africa they only imported Type R JDM k20a with 220hp stock. and then they have the B16 and B18's as well for the hatch.
Kyle Palmer DC2 integras are called integras in the US and DC5 integras are RSXs in the US
TH-camr But only the U.S. matters
Martin Quin Since the people in this video are American, for the context of this conversation yes you are correct.
2nd gen CR-Vs too
Where the shifter is located is the best part good thing I own one
Vtec just kicked in yo
Ja son stfu
Intake cam only #A3Life
It doesn't actually kick in on those #whompwhomp
somanymods i-vtec ftw
All K Series have i-vtec. The A3's is designed very differently, setup primarily to make the car function like a 3v at low RPM.
Had a '02 EP3 that went 263k miles before I replaced it with a '15 FIST. Wish the FIST had the EP3 seats and Honda's build quality.
CerberaLM My buddy's has an ep3 as a daily. It currently has 268k and he beats the hell out of it nearly every day lol still runs great though.
how do you like the FiST compared with the ep3? Driving wise?
More likes kids. You might not know but this car was great in the 2000s
David Ha still seems good to me in the late 2010’s. 🤷🏻♂️
in 2002 my older brother bought the first gen s2000. he joined a car club that would do track days. I would tag along occasionally. one day a k20a swapped track ready ep3 showed up at the track. it lapped every s2000 there. I wanted one bad. I built one and smile every time I drive it.
These cars with a stock motor suck. Theyre very slow. Thats why more rsx's were sold in the US
This was the car I really wanted but couldn't afford in the early 2000s, bought a Nissan Sentra SE-R instead which was pretty shit quality but way cheaper.
Yeah it was slightly faster but definitely not Honda quality or support
This guy sounds like a robot.
CEASE YOUR INVESTIGATION
Yeah, probably nervous. I would be too I think. Kid knows his cars though.
So?
C Zook He's scared that if he says the wrong thing Matt would shove him in a locker
theyre all around us
The suspension being that low actually makes it slower.
People who ride that low don't care.
really?...
Werks Guy really really.
wats ur reasoning behind this...........................?
Nothing but style. Same as the VIP lexus that was here a while ago.
I'll bring you my ep3 k20a supercharger
I would so love to put that into my Del Sol...
K20A2 etc...
Fricken love it. EP3s are my favorite. I call mine EPZ3 because I swapped in K20Z3 and 6 speed. So much fun!
Love ur channel bro.. I bought my ep3 3 months ago and love every minute
Hey that guy goes to my school lol!
whats his name or insta cause i want to know his rim and tire specs
I've always had a soft spot for the ep3 civic body style. Nice clean example, too (barring suspension).