Thank you. I find it strange people criticise, since it's very clear from beginning that you have the computer pointing out errors. If you were making as many errors as they say you were (throwing away dueces) they would be pointed out - the ones you did make were.
You go so fast through your pLays I. Reading cards and you’re already going through the next deal. I appreciate it but I want to learn strategy and your running right thru it all.
Tournaments are for the public. You know, the perception of who's best. To determine who's best, you'd have to play head-to-head, no limit, with your own money.
Any serious player should look at both the expected probabilities and percentage return for all the hands given optimal play. When doing this they'll notice that the 4 of a kind has a return of 32.5% and the 3 of a kind 28.5%, so these two types of hands actually return(that is pay) 61% of the entire payback of the game. Why is this... because of the deuces of course. A three of a kind is usually a pair and a deuce, and four of a kind is usually a pair and two deuces. This should tell you that the game is really almost all about the Deuces. I mean, when you hold a only one pair of two, or hold a pair over a 4-flush(you only do this because you are drawing with the hope of getting deuces) you know it's all about the deuces. The only time the deuces don't matter is when you're drawing/hoping for the natural Royal Flush, and the return for that is only 1.8% of the total which is relatively small. So when playing Deuces Wild, remember it's all about the decues and NEVER discard a deuce, not even when you have a 4-card natural Royal Flush and a deuce. No, hold the deuce and the other 4 cards and make your Wild Royal, do not go for the natural Royal Flush, it's not worth the risk, you'll almost certainly take a big loss.
I still do not get why I'm notified of a comment, yet when I load the video to reply to it, the comment disappears. Anyways, the software is Video Poker for Winners and it is available for purchase. Google it for the website.
Thanks..Now I understand.. So I should not hold 2 to a Royal if there's a gap.. eg: JA or 10K..Makes sense and I have never looked at it this way.. Appreciate the Tutorial..:-)
+Sharon B What do you mean "if there's a gap"? The examples Mike gave are QJ, JT, QT. To me there is no "gap" there, or only just one small one between the Q and T. The hold really has little to do with whether there's a "gap" or not. First off, Mike is right, he gave the "easy" hold plays, you always hold QJ, JT, or QT if there is no better play. Secondly, the other easy play is that you NEVER hold a 2-card Royal with ace high, so you never hold A-K, A-Q, A-J, or A-T suited for example. However, the challenging scenario is when you have a King high. Generally you hold a 2-card Royal with King high if there are NO penalty cards, that is a flush penalty(any discard of the same suit) or a straight penalty(in this case, any discard 9 or higher), but there are exceptions. The exceptions do actually consider the "gap" between the two cards you would hold. For example, holding K,T suited would have different exceptions from holding K,Q suited. This gets into the detailed minutiae of the game, but suffice it for me to say that there are times when the three discards(remember, you are holding a King and another card to a Royal Flush) would actually change/negate the play of your holding the King and high card, and these discards which determine the exception to the rule are actually based on the gap between the King and the other card being held. Edit: My apologies as I actually misread/misunderstood what you wrote Sharon, I suppose I do need to take the time to read more carefully what is being said. But regardless, what I said above is correct. You always hold Q,J, Q,T, and J,T, and NEVER hold a 2-card royal with ace high. And you also hold a 2-card royal with King high, but only if there are no penalty cards, that is a discard of the same suit as the King(a flush penalty) or a card 9 or higher(a straight penalty), they reduce your chance of making other hands, particularly a flush or a straight. There are exceptions to this, but the gains are minimal and I don't want to confuse you, I mean I was already confused when I misread what you wrote and responded.
Let me get this straight: If the game pays over 100% with perfect play, does that mean you can play it indefinitely and suck all the money you want out of it?
Yes, in the long run over millions of hands played, every $100 wagered will return that $100 back plus 76 cents. Unfortunately, the highest denomination available for full pay deuces wild is a quarter game; with max bet, that is $1.25 per hand. This makes it a slow grind of roughly $9 per hour assuming you play at a fast 1,000 hands every hour.
Hi Blake, I understand it can be not as intuitive when compared to other hands. Also, different games have different strategies. For example, in Jacks or Better or Bonus Poker, a gutshot straight is avoided unless it contains at least 3 or more cards with jack or higher. In deuces wild, as seen in this video, the 4 deuces increase the probability enough to make up for the lower payoff for a straight. The other 2 games where you DO hold a gutshot are Double Bonus (straights usually pay more) and Double Double Bonus (a lower payoff for two pair is enough to make holding a gutshot better than discarding all cards). Hope this helps.
Even with supposedly over 100% possible return and your skills in video poker, the demo still showed a -20% ROI. Most of the current poker machines I have seen in Vegas don't have pay tables this good, most people don't do their homework or are very skilled, so it's no wonder most people lose. Casinos are built on this. I tried a couple the other day and found that I was only above what I started with a couple of times, and most of the time was battling to stay at about 70%, for a -30% ROI. Other than for entertainment, this stuff is a real loser. That said, I did make a +75% ROI this week, but that was pure luck - the anomaly. With the piss poor payouts on most machines these days, don't expect much as far as actually making money.
Hello Juan, In the short term, anything can happen. The 100.76% return for full pay deuces wild is a long term payout, at least a million hands or so. I was in Las Vegas earlier this month and I played this game quite a bit at a couple of off-strip casinos. Results were mixed, as expected from any game with variance, not unlike what you had. It is true that most people who play do not do their research on playing correct strategy, which is one of the reasons I put up this and other videos.
+juan diegas I've been practicing for about a month now, playing Full pay Deuces Wild, getting ready to maybe make a trip to Vegas, and even though the computer warns me when I am wrong(something which happens very rarely I'm glad to say) and I change to the correct mathematical play, after tens of thousands of hands I have lost thousands of credits, I'd guess about five or six thousand. So if this were real money and I were playing quarters, if I lost 6,000 credits, I'd be out $1,500. And this is after I would guess 50,000 hands and computer perfect play. And no, I have not hit a Royal Flush yet. My problem is that even if/when I do I will still be deep in the hole. This is not making my trip to Vegas look very promising or likely. : ( So yeah, even when playing a game with over 100% payback and perfectly following optimal strategy over tens of thousands of hands, one can still lose their shirt, pants and everything else. Fortunately it hasn't been any real money for me.
Hi Mike, would you know how often one should expect to get(that is finish the hand after the draw) a 4-card natural Royal Flush? I've been practicing a lot, I can't say exactly how many hands, but I'd definitely say in the tens of thousands(it's been probably about a month now that I've been practicing) and I've yet to hit a Royal Flush, but I have gotten a lot of 4-card natural Royal Flushes(not including Wild Royals), I'd guess somewhere between 20 and 30. Would you know if this is normal? I would guess it probably is, it's just that it's so disappointing being so close, yet so far, because as you surely know, a 4 card Royal Flush pays absolutely nothing. Also, while I'm talking about Royal Flushes, I have another question. I know you never hold a 2-card Royal Flush with Ace high in Deuces Wild(although I might want to question that for similar reasons to what I'm about to explore/explain) but sometimes you do hold a 2-card Royal with King high, but that's negated if there's a flush penalty or straight penalty. I think I'd discard both cards(the King and high card) if there is a flush penalty, but sometimes there's a 9 or 10 which supposedly "disqualifies" the play, but when I "analyze" the play it is still extremely close, usually within hundredths or even thousandths of EV of the best play which is discarding all. Anyway, my question is how much would a player lose by holding the 2-card Royal instead of discarding all? I suppose in the long, long run it would add up to maybe make a significant difference, but over shorter playing periods(which is what I think most people will actually play, I mean what is the "long run" in Video Poker anyway, probably millions if not billions, or even trillions of hands, and how many people will reach that number?) it may actually be better for the average player to go for the Royal Flush, it will obviously increase their odds of hitting it, although only by a very small amount I would guess, while only costing the player very litte in EV as well. What I'm trying to say is that if the play is close, I mean really close, such that the difference could be deemed trivial, like hundredths or thousandths of a coin/credit really fractions of a penny, I would favor going for the Royal Flush. Like I said, most people are not going to be playing millions of hands to get to the long run and realize the full expected payback of the game, and that being the case, I would think it would be prudent to actually go for the Royal Flush jackpot as much as possible, as long as it wouldn't be considered a reckless play to do so. Am I wrong? I guess I should analyze hands with ace high 2-card Royals too, just to see how much would be lost if one were to hold it. I mean, the expectation when discarding all 5 cards can't be very good. Yes, I know it's statistically better than holding a 2-card Royal with ace high, but if the play is really close I'm not sure it's not worth trying for the Royal. I mean, I really don't care if I hit a 3-of a Kind or a straight with a new 5-card hand, the payback isn't completely insignificant, but to me it is rather trivial, something I would maybe be willing to give up to try for the Royal Flush, if the penalty isn't that great, meaning if it isn't too costly. I'm not saying I'm going to do it, but I do want to know what the values are, how much one would actually be losing. What are your ideas on this?
Correct, but notice it's a deuce along with the 4, 5 and 8 of spades, so that's a 4-card straight flush he's playing. The suited connector is always 6 -7 or higher when going for the straight flush. But here he has a 4-card straight flush which is always played.
man you should stop playing because you don't know what you doing really all the play you doing is wrong like you don't hold tow of kind and that's wrong because that's the key to win a hand of there of kind or more so just stop and go bracts thanks
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Thank you. I find it strange people criticise, since it's very clear from beginning that you have the computer pointing out errors. If you were making as many errors as they say you were (throwing away dueces) they would be pointed out - the ones you did make were.
You go so fast through your pLays I. Reading cards and you’re already going through the next deal.
I appreciate it but I want to learn strategy and your running right thru it all.
I would like to play when you are not holding duces
Good luck finding that pay table outside Nevada.
Tournaments are for the public. You know, the perception of who's best. To determine who's best, you'd have to play head-to-head, no limit, with your own money.
I prefer these poker games at the casinos rather than slots
Any serious player should look at both the expected probabilities and percentage return for all the hands given optimal play.
When doing this they'll notice that the 4 of a kind has a return of 32.5% and the 3 of a kind 28.5%, so these two types of hands actually return(that is pay) 61% of the entire payback of the game. Why is this... because of the deuces of course. A three of a kind is usually a pair and a deuce, and four of a kind is usually a pair and two deuces.
This should tell you that the game is really almost all about the Deuces. I mean, when you hold a only one pair of two, or hold a pair over a 4-flush(you only do this because you are drawing with the hope of getting deuces) you know it's all about the deuces.
The only time the deuces don't matter is when you're drawing/hoping for the natural Royal Flush, and the return for that is only 1.8% of the total which is relatively small.
So when playing Deuces Wild, remember it's all about the decues and NEVER discard a deuce, not even when you have a 4-card natural Royal Flush and a deuce. No, hold the deuce and the other 4 cards and make your Wild Royal, do not go for the natural Royal Flush, it's not worth the risk, you'll almost certainly take a big loss.
Hi Mike is it true that each game has it,s own deck of cards? On multy games.
Yes. In multi-play games, the draw are cards are chosen from the remaining 47 cards for each hand.
I still do not get why I'm notified of a comment, yet when I load the video to reply to it, the comment disappears. Anyways, the software is Video Poker for Winners and it is available for purchase. Google it for the website.
Thanks for video I got my first Royal Flush NO DEUCES
Watching this now, got some in the stratosphere maybe 10 in here; and I saw like 15-20 in the SLS hotel, these are the only games I play.
is A2345 a straight flush? Would you hold Deuce A and 3 (same suite) in case of 1 deuce?
A2345 suited is a straight flush. However, with 1 deuce you do not hold A23. In your example, the best play is to hold just the deuce.
The only cards I hold in deuces wild are deuces and from three cards to a royal
I feel like Ed Gein is gonna slam open the metal door, and come runnin after me with a chainsaw..
What software are you using?
Hi Mike, do you know anything about the Genie?
So I don't hold 2 to a Royal when there's no deuce?
If the 2 to a royal consists of QJ, JT, or QT and there is no deuce, then yes, hold the 2 to a royal.
Thanks..Now I understand.. So I should not hold 2 to a Royal if there's a gap.. eg: JA or 10K..Makes sense and I have never looked at it this way.. Appreciate the Tutorial..:-)
You're welcome. Good luck!
+Sharon B What do you mean "if there's a gap"? The examples Mike gave are QJ, JT, QT. To me there is no "gap" there, or only just one small one between the Q and T.
The hold really has little to do with whether there's a "gap" or not.
First off, Mike is right, he gave the "easy" hold plays, you always hold QJ, JT, or QT if there is no better play.
Secondly, the other easy play is that you NEVER hold a 2-card Royal with ace high, so you never hold A-K, A-Q, A-J, or A-T suited for example.
However, the challenging scenario is when you have a King high. Generally you hold a 2-card Royal with King high if there are NO penalty cards, that is a flush penalty(any discard of the same suit) or a straight penalty(in this case, any discard 9 or higher), but there are exceptions. The exceptions do actually consider the "gap" between the two cards you would hold. For example, holding K,T suited would have different exceptions from holding K,Q suited. This gets into the detailed minutiae of the game, but suffice it for me to say that there are times when the three discards(remember, you are holding a King and another card to a Royal Flush) would actually change/negate the play of your holding the King and high card, and these discards which determine the exception to the rule are actually based on the gap between the King and the other card being held.
Edit: My apologies as I actually misread/misunderstood what you wrote Sharon, I suppose I do need to take the time to read more carefully what is being said. But regardless, what I said above is correct. You always hold Q,J, Q,T, and J,T, and NEVER hold a 2-card royal with ace high. And you also hold a 2-card royal with King high, but only if there are no penalty cards, that is a discard of the same suit as the King(a flush penalty) or a card 9 or higher(a straight penalty), they reduce your chance of making other hands, particularly a flush or a straight. There are exceptions to this, but the gains are minimal and I don't want to confuse you, I mean I was already confused when I misread what you wrote and responded.
Let me get this straight: If the game pays over 100% with perfect play, does that mean you can play it indefinitely and suck all the money you want out of it?
Yes, in the long run over millions of hands played, every $100 wagered will return that $100 back plus 76 cents. Unfortunately, the highest denomination available for full pay deuces wild is a quarter game; with max bet, that is $1.25 per hand. This makes it a slow grind of roughly $9 per hour assuming you play at a fast 1,000 hands every hour.
Going for the gutshot straights just does not seem correct in my opinion... but it didn't stop you...?? I'm pretty shocked tbh
Hi Blake,
I understand it can be not as intuitive when compared to other hands. Also, different games have different strategies.
For example, in Jacks or Better or Bonus Poker, a gutshot straight is avoided unless it contains at least 3 or more cards with jack or higher. In deuces wild, as seen in this video, the 4 deuces increase the probability enough to make up for the lower payoff for a straight.
The other 2 games where you DO hold a gutshot are Double Bonus (straights usually pay more) and Double Double Bonus (a lower payoff for two pair is enough to make holding a gutshot better than discarding all cards).
Hope this helps.
You really are supposed to go for the gutshot straights??? hmm....
how not to play VP.
No where has it, why you show the full pay and not other popular dw?
I have an updated video that shows a slightly more common 99.73% pay table instead of FPDW. Just search for Video Poker Genius Part 5 Deuces Wild.
Even with supposedly over 100% possible return and your skills in video poker, the demo still showed a -20% ROI. Most of the current poker machines I have seen in Vegas don't have pay tables this good, most people don't do their homework or are very skilled, so it's no wonder most people lose. Casinos are built on this. I tried a couple the other day and found that I was only above what I started with a couple of times, and most of the time was battling to stay at about 70%, for a -30% ROI. Other than for entertainment, this stuff is a real loser. That said, I did make a +75% ROI this week, but that was pure luck - the anomaly. With the piss poor payouts on most machines these days, don't expect much as far as actually making money.
Hello Juan,
In the short term, anything can happen. The 100.76% return for full pay deuces wild is a long term payout, at least a million hands or so. I was in Las Vegas earlier this month and I played this game quite a bit at a couple of off-strip casinos. Results were mixed, as expected from any game with variance, not unlike what you had. It is true that most people who play do not do their research on playing correct strategy, which is one of the reasons I put up this and other videos.
+juan diegas I've been practicing for about a month now, playing Full pay Deuces Wild, getting ready to maybe make a trip to Vegas, and even though the computer warns me when I am wrong(something which happens very rarely I'm glad to say) and I change to the correct mathematical play, after tens of thousands of hands I have lost thousands of credits, I'd guess about five or six thousand. So if this were real money and I were playing quarters, if I lost 6,000 credits, I'd be out $1,500. And this is after I would guess 50,000 hands and computer perfect play. And no, I have not hit a Royal Flush yet. My problem is that even if/when I do I will still be deep in the hole. This is not making my trip to Vegas look very promising or likely. : (
So yeah, even when playing a game with over 100% payback and perfectly following optimal strategy over tens of thousands of hands, one can still lose their shirt, pants and everything else. Fortunately it hasn't been any real money for me.
Oh wow we have a real gambler here. Good job. You must be rich! Lmfao If you only knew how dumb you sound.
Hi Mike, would you know how often one should expect to get(that is finish the hand after the draw) a 4-card natural Royal Flush?
I've been practicing a lot, I can't say exactly how many hands, but I'd definitely say in the tens of thousands(it's been probably about a month now that I've been practicing) and I've yet to hit a Royal Flush, but I have gotten a lot of 4-card natural Royal Flushes(not including Wild Royals), I'd guess somewhere between 20 and 30.
Would you know if this is normal?
I would guess it probably is, it's just that it's so disappointing being so close, yet so far, because as you surely know, a 4 card Royal Flush pays absolutely nothing.
Also, while I'm talking about Royal Flushes, I have another question.
I know you never hold a 2-card Royal Flush with Ace high in Deuces Wild(although I might want to question that for similar reasons to what I'm about to explore/explain) but sometimes you do hold a 2-card Royal with King high, but that's negated if there's a flush penalty or straight penalty. I think I'd discard both cards(the King and high card) if there is a flush penalty, but sometimes there's a 9 or 10 which supposedly "disqualifies" the play, but when I "analyze" the play it is still extremely close, usually within hundredths or even thousandths of EV of the best play which is discarding all.
Anyway, my question is how much would a player lose by holding the 2-card Royal instead of discarding all? I suppose in the long, long run it would add up to maybe make a significant difference, but over shorter playing periods(which is what I think most people will actually play, I mean what is the "long run" in Video Poker anyway, probably millions if not billions, or even trillions of hands, and how many people will reach that number?) it may actually be better for the average player to go for the Royal Flush, it will obviously increase their odds of hitting it, although only by a very small amount I would guess, while only costing the player very litte in EV as well. What I'm trying to say is that if the play is close, I mean really close, such that the difference could be deemed trivial, like hundredths or thousandths of a coin/credit really fractions of a penny, I would favor going for the Royal Flush. Like I said, most people are not going to be playing millions of hands to get to the long run and realize the full expected payback of the game, and that being the case, I would think it would be prudent to actually go for the Royal Flush jackpot as much as possible, as long as it wouldn't be considered a reckless play to do so. Am I wrong?
I guess I should analyze hands with ace high 2-card Royals too, just to see how much would be lost if one were to hold it. I mean, the expectation when discarding all 5 cards can't be very good. Yes, I know it's statistically better than holding a 2-card Royal with ace high, but if the play is really close I'm not sure it's not worth trying for the Royal. I mean, I really don't care if I hit a 3-of a Kind or a straight with a new 5-card hand, the payback isn't completely insignificant, but to me it is rather trivial, something I would maybe be willing to give up to try for the Royal Flush, if the penalty isn't that great, meaning if it isn't too costly.
I'm not saying I'm going to do it, but I do want to know what the values are, how much one would actually be losing.
What are your ideas on this?
Isn't there a way just to play without someone trying teach you how to play for some one like me that all ready know the game
whistling noise?
Why dont you hold 2 dueces but hold 1?
If that happened it was by mistake. In Deuces Wild you NEVER discard a deuce.
Wow!
Southpoint casino has alot of these machines, but they took out jack or better machines..😠
That shouldn't be a problem as Full Pay Deuces Wild is a much better game than Jacks or Better.
Cant even gamble 2x
5:40: I thought you'd need slightly higher connectors to go for SF there?
Correct, but notice it's a deuce along with the 4, 5 and 8 of spades, so that's a 4-card straight flush he's playing.
The suited connector is always 6 -7 or higher when going for the straight flush. But here he has a 4-card straight flush which is always played.
GET RID OF THAT BACKGROUND STATIC!!
So you were down $10.00 at the end of the video... so you work for the casino huh?
missed three fours
missed three eights
4 deuces pays 1000? I am assuming must be natural?
Yes. Exactly as it says. All 4 deuces, 5th card can be anything.
So should you ever hold just a deuce?
In deuces wild, always hold any deuces dealt to you.
+David Golden Yes, it is actually quite common to hold just a single deuce, Mike even does it in the video at least once that I saw.
First, he made several mistakes, including discarding dealt deuces. His delivery is not dynamic and is rather boring. However, the advice is good.
Download duces are wild card game
Not very informative. I call BS
you missed two three of a kinds
This video should be titled how not to play video poker.
Care to explain why?
Bye I
You missed some three of a kinds. Try harder while you’re making a how to video. Cmon guy
No he didn't. He got them on the redraw. Pay attention better.
On 3:53 you threw away a duece.
Look at the hand again a few seconds prior. That hand with the deuce was the result of the draw. The hand was over. I could not hold anything.
@@ClubMikeV You are absolutely correct! My apologies!
man you should stop playing because you don't know what you doing really all the play you doing is wrong like you don't hold tow of kind and that's wrong because that's the key to win a hand of there of kind or more so just stop and go bracts thanks
you don't seem very experienced to me you should be more confident