Vittoria Terreno Mix Endurance 37c, tight squeeze but nothing from rain to snow makes me take my car for a commute. You also magically gain 50W whenever you switch back to summer slicks 😂
maybe that's what they're doing 🤔 although if they move in there they have to be careful what pranks they play on him, if he decides to quit then there'll be SOL
odd that you didn't put in the clip at the first mention, but the second... and I think in the last video you didn't recognize it at all... I think the only reason he's saying it that way is so that the editor will pick up the cue to put in a clip, but without that consideration that sounds like he's just name-dropping the fact that he's been there 😂
I change bikes for the winter. I use a low value bike with studded snow tires and a three speed rear hub for the winter months. If you want the full scoop on winter cycling, you should contact Pekka Takola. Last I knew he was the winter cycling coordinator for the City of Oulu, Finland.
In the US here and I learned the pronunciation as "too-lee" something like 40 years ago. People who say "thool" usually receive a raised eyebrow if not a snicker, in my experience.
That Colnago frame is still in production. It was their only steel offering until the new Steelnovo (limited ed.) GCN did a youtube on the steel production 10 years ago.
2 things: 1. Do you ever worry that a sealed puncture will open up again? 2. To get over tubeless stress, you should set up your tubeless tires yourself so you know how tough your particular tire/wheel combination is.
I've been tubeless on my MTBs since 2016. Never had a puncture that stopped me riding and only had one puncture that needed further attention when I got home!
I really appreciate when people submitting to the bike vault take the time to make good photographs and are selective with their locations. Taber Newton killed it this week with their submissions. I love to see these bikes presented so beautifully. Nice work! I suspect that I would be about as ruthless in my assessments as Ollie is, tbh.
Keep my GP4000 ii 25mm's and only ride in dry weather (preferably no rain the day before). If I really really need to ride in wet conditions I quickly wack on some gateoskins on the front tire (where I get the most punctures mainly through pinch flats)
I now live in a place where winter is not a concern. Growing up in the Northeast of the USA in the late 70’s and early 80’s we just rode the same tires year round. You just learned quickly how to hold yourself up with a fast placed foot to keep from hitting the ground when the snow and ice slid the bike out from under you. I don’t remember getting any more punctures during the winter.
Re: quad locks in aircraft. I work for an airline. We don’t use quad locks, although I guess general aviation might. The pilots have iPads which contain their charts and company apps eg electronic logbook. The _mount_ costs more than the iPad - it has to pass a lot of rigorous testing so that it doesn’t fly off the mount and knock the pilots out.
Something that has completely transformed my winter riding (in temperatures below freezing) is electronic gears. Anyone who's experienced water ingress in cables and outers where the water freezes, knows how frustrating it is to suddenly lose your ability to shift gears or to get stuck cables in general. No such problems with hydraulic disk brakes and electronic shifting! Also, studded tyres for the worst conditions.
This rush for all bike things Chinese I really don't understand. Yes, fabricators in Asia have done fantastic work for decades, both for their mass-production builds for Western brands and of their own creations and components. But one look at Alex's Colnago video reminds us that, as a community, we still love seeing bikes built by locals in nations such as Italy, not that most of us could afford those new Colnagos but still, props to all the companies and artisans who are making frames and components and such in their own hometowns. And a few years ago, not more than a quarter-mile away on a bike ride to a convenience store, I rode past a local fabrication shop in an old building and outside was a truck featured on a popular TV show. Turns out, it was a shop creating all sorts of one-off custom trucks and who knew. Great to see. 😀
What about a GCN+ video for the subscribers with an annual awards for greatest hacks/vaults and greatest nice/supernice... the whole team, voted for by all! Winners get some prizes...
"Force concentration on a contact patch" is .....wait for it....called pressure. That's literally the definition for pressure: the magnitude of force divided by the area over which that force is exerted. Just say pressure.
Ollie’s pronunciation of Thule is correct! Where you’re from in the world doesn’t change the pronunciation. Our winter tires in Southern California is the same as our summer tires. C’mon! Ring that bell!
I've taken to a bad habit of saying words like Thule wrong on purpose. Here in the US I've never heard anyone pronounce it with a hard "Th" - except me. What's lost on most younger ones (but not all) is when I use it in the famous quote "I pity the Thule" - Mr T. from 'The A-Team'. BTW. It works with "I pity the Fuel" ref. the Trek MTB model. Those who know say- I see what you did there. Most are clueless.
I didn't know about the temperature numbers regarding the Pirelli 4S. I was running the regular Pirellis during winter and noticed the tires would slip a lot when powering up some climbs and I just thought it was because the Pirellis suck at grip.
To be fair after the seasonal switch from gp5000 to Cinturatos I barely notice the slightly higher rolling resistance, especially after a couple of rides. I think they're pretty fast, and certainly comfortable. Sometimes think I'd be happy running them all year round 🤔
Came off my bike a few years ago, knocked out two teeth and severed my thumb, woke up on the side of the road with paramedics etc etc, first question I asked.... "Is my bike ok?" (It wasn't)
From the beginning of November till March, I'm using virtual tyres 😉 I don't fancy riding outdoor in Polish winter conditions, what's unsafe and hardly pleasant. Prefer to ride on my turbotrainer using training plans on My Woosh to increase my power and getting ready for spring 😃
You guys are brilliant, love watching your videos. The Colnago vid and other documentary style vids you’ve done are similar to old school Top Gear. You should use the Top Gear formulae, reviews, chatting, intellectual facts and epics
The Bastion is stunning. I believe we have seen one already on GCN Vids. Simon Gerrans' ride on Cycling heartlands Melbourne 👍..shame we can't see the whole video😤
I ride the same type of tyres, all year long. And it's the change to "summer" tyres, I don't do! As a purely recreational rider, I'd choose the increased comfort and puncture resistance, over the decreased aero drag and rolling resistance, any day of the year. To be honest, I doubt I would be able to percieve the slightly faster tyres anyway? Maybe the placebo effect would be helpful in some way? What I'm definately able to percieve though, is a puncture! Punctures are the worst!
People saying buy a steel bike in response to a video about damaging carbon frames is so silly. I wouldn’t counter someone who’s advising wearing sunscreen to avoid getting burned at the beach to go to an indoor pool instead. Missing the point of the conversation.
understand the Newtons Law...or better still the Elephant foot area compared to a stilleto heal...however, a larger area, does it mean more chance of hitting that thorn or sharp flint....I'll get my coat!
If I understand professor Ollie's unambiguous and clear explanation correctly, you get less punctures letting an elephant ride your bike than someone wearing stilettos. That's sobering advice.
A better interpretation is "if an elephant stepped on you, you're less likely to die than if that elephant were wearing stilettos." Shouldn't be too hard to figure out how that applies to tires from there.
Any recommendations for grippy "winter/wet" tyre? 5-15*C, 28-30mm tyre, for 21mm inner w. rim. I thought about putting them on my spare wheelset. In the mornings or late afternoons/at night some of my roads where I train are wet and I thought AS/4S tyres would help. Of course I used bicyclerollingresistance, looks like GP5000 AS TR has the best grip any experience? with it ? or Pirelli P Zero Race 4S Pirelli P Zero Race TLR 4S something else?
#askgcntech Hi Olli and Fred! I have 3 road bikes that get little use during winter. What do you think about how to store high-end (summer) bikes for a long period when they are not used? What I try to do is use each one around every 2 weeks for a roller warm up before indoor (Wattbike) training to keep bearings and chainset moving. I usually clean, detail and lube them at the end of summer, then store in a heated garage. They get more heat and attention than my wife! Thanks!
I zone out when ollie delivers his convoluted "science" takes, or unnecessarily detailed and disjointed soliloquies, which is most of the time he's talking. I'm actually doing it right now, apparently he's still going on about tyres or something. Wonder what I'll have for dinner? 🤔
While yes a wider, lower-pressure tire pushes a corner of a rock less into the tire there are many things to be found on the road that will puncture a road tire either way and for those, a narrower tire has less probability to hit that obstacle straight on purely by covering less of the road. Taken to an extreme but to illustrate the point if there were one shingle with a nail sticking up on the shoulder of a road and you had a 4-foot wide tire you'd get punctured regardless that you're at 2psi whereas my probability of hitting it at 28mm out of those 4ft is very low. Doing thousands of km on tires, probability is the only thing you can use. In my own experience with many thousands of km I get far far less punctures on 28mm than I did on my 40mm.
Rather than sqap out the tires when the seasons change, I just throw the bike in the garbage and buy a new one. Much easier than changing the tires and winter proofig a bike
Some tyres are directional, some aren't. If they are directional and you get it wrong then you may get poorer traction in loose conditions, or sightly impaired aero if its an aero siped tyre. You probably won't notice on a road tyre.
Yes, before the Olympics. She was in Paris to see her partner, Ryan Mullen, finish the men's road race. You could see her at the finish when he crossed the line. She's done a bit of work for Eurosport since then.
fumbling a lot of words today , ive rode to work (at this particlular job) admittedly not a road bike 10yrs 3 punctures , dont get me wrong still hate em
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What type of tyres do you run during the winter? ❄🚴
Vittoria Terreno Mix Endurance 37c, tight squeeze but nothing from rain to snow makes me take my car for a commute.
You also magically gain 50W whenever you switch back to summer slicks 😂
Bontrager Barbegazi 27.5 x 4.5...
ice spiker pro. love them.
The same ones I run the rest of the year. Pirelli Cinturato Velo 28mm tubeless
Pirelli Cinturato TLR. Definitely feel slower but in winter I’ll take that for better puncture protection and confidence in cold grip
GCN HQ should rent space in Hank’s castle. Win-win!
maybe that's what they're doing 🤔 although if they move in there they have to be careful what pranks they play on him, if he decides to quit then there'll be SOL
Has Ollie visited the Pirelli factory? Not sure he mentioned it... 😂
We’d like to remind you that he went to the Pirelli factory, in case you missed it when he mentioned it.
odd that you didn't put in the clip at the first mention, but the second... and I think in the last video you didn't recognize it at all... I think the only reason he's saying it that way is so that the editor will pick up the cue to put in a clip, but without that consideration that sounds like he's just name-dropping the fact that he's been there 😂
I change bikes for the winter. I use a low value bike with studded snow tires and a three speed rear hub for the winter months. If you want the full scoop on winter cycling, you should contact Pekka Takola. Last I knew he was the winter cycling coordinator for the City of Oulu, Finland.
all SUPER NICE, brilliant!
Newtons 4th law: Nothing stops a cyclist in motion, not even bad weather 😉
what about disc brakes?
Newton's 5th law is Taber owns the bike vault
@@gcntechsome say big Izzy was referring to a state of mind not the physical quantity. Or he was just hit a bit too hard by that apple 😉
In the US here and I learned the pronunciation as "too-lee" something like 40 years ago. People who say "thool" usually receive a raised eyebrow if not a snicker, in my experience.
Continental Contact Urban (loads of sizes, a little weighty but fantastic puncture protection and under 20w).or GP Urban, but only 700x35c.
But bigger contact patch (wider) means you are covering more road - so bigger chance of catching a puncture :)
Dude's! Very good bike vault, better than the past few, but, I've now twice submitted my custom fixed, with all the boxes ticked.... Commo....
#askgcntech There seem to be countless “subspecies” under Pirelli’s P Zero family. Can you please help unravel that line of products?
That Colnago frame is still in production. It was their only steel offering until the new Steelnovo (limited ed.) GCN did a youtube on the steel production 10 years ago.
GCN Tech: "The Truth About Winter Tyres"
Every rider on a Caribbean island🏝:
2 things:
1. Do you ever worry that a sealed puncture will open up again?
2. To get over tubeless stress, you should set up your tubeless tires yourself so you know how tough your particular tire/wheel combination is.
As Olli explains Newton’s 3rd law, Connor’s face tells me he is picturing an elephant in stilettos
I've been tubeless on my MTBs since 2016. Never had a puncture that stopped me riding and only had one puncture that needed further attention when I got home!
I change my bike for winter. Wider more puncture resistant tires, full fenders, and panniers instead of backpack.
I really appreciate when people submitting to the bike vault take the time to make good photographs and are selective with their locations.
Taber Newton killed it this week with their submissions. I love to see these bikes presented so beautifully. Nice work!
I suspect that I would be about as ruthless in my assessments as Ollie is, tbh.
Tedious comments from Canada in 3, 2, 1...
I have winter studded tires on my Bianchi Impuso. Already been out on ice and snow and even rain. They are super tough and almost bulletproof
Keep my GP4000 ii 25mm's and only ride in dry weather (preferably no rain the day before). If I really really need to ride in wet conditions I quickly wack on some gateoskins on the front tire (where I get the most punctures mainly through pinch flats)
I now live in a place where winter is not a concern. Growing up in the Northeast of the USA in the late 70’s and early 80’s we just rode the same tires year round. You just learned quickly how to hold yourself up with a fast placed foot to keep from hitting the ground when the snow and ice slid the bike out from under you. I don’t remember getting any more punctures during the winter.
3:45 …and just like that Ollie dropped a HUGE chunk of his nerd-cred into the sea, where his pet albatross quickly gobbled it up
Re: quad locks in aircraft. I work for an airline. We don’t use quad locks, although I guess general aviation might. The pilots have iPads which contain their charts and company apps eg electronic logbook. The _mount_ costs more than the iPad - it has to pass a lot of rigorous testing so that it doesn’t fly off the mount and knock the pilots out.
When super nice bikes changes to a game of Geo-guesser 😅
Something that has completely transformed my winter riding (in temperatures below freezing) is electronic gears. Anyone who's experienced water ingress in cables and outers where the water freezes, knows how frustrating it is to suddenly lose your ability to shift gears or to get stuck cables in general. No such problems with hydraulic disk brakes and electronic shifting! Also, studded tyres for the worst conditions.
"we're not swedish". Conor, remember Rule 89: Pronounce it correctly. Can't wait for the Tour of France this year.
“When they get hard, you have a lot less grip”
They teach you that at the Pirelli factory too? 🤨
This rush for all bike things Chinese I really don't understand. Yes, fabricators in Asia have done fantastic work for decades, both for their mass-production builds for Western brands and of their own creations and components. But one look at Alex's Colnago video reminds us that, as a community, we still love seeing bikes built by locals in nations such as Italy, not that most of us could afford those new Colnagos but still, props to all the companies and artisans who are making frames and components and such in their own hometowns. And a few years ago, not more than a quarter-mile away on a bike ride to a convenience store, I rode past a local fabrication shop in an old building and outside was a truck featured on a popular TV show. Turns out, it was a shop creating all sorts of one-off custom trucks and who knew. Great to see. 😀
What about a GCN+ video for the subscribers with an annual awards for greatest hacks/vaults and greatest nice/supernice... the whole team, voted for by all! Winners get some prizes...
"Force concentration on a contact patch" is .....wait for it....called pressure. That's literally the definition for pressure: the magnitude of force divided by the area over which that force is exerted. Just say pressure.
So entertaining, especially when Ollie's in a good mood ;)
We're glad you enjoyed the video 🫶
Ollie’s pronunciation of Thule is correct! Where you’re from in the world doesn’t change the pronunciation. Our winter tires in Southern California is the same as our summer tires. C’mon! Ring that bell!
As a dane and knowinng swedish quite well im gonna be very suprised if Toolee is correct. Then there is something i did not know about swedish.
I've taken to a bad habit of saying words like Thule wrong on purpose. Here in the US I've never heard anyone pronounce it with a hard "Th" - except me.
What's lost on most younger ones (but not all) is when I use it in the famous quote "I pity the Thule" - Mr T. from 'The A-Team'.
BTW. It works with "I pity the Fuel" ref. the Trek MTB model.
Those who know say- I see what you did there. Most are clueless.
I did mess about and just bought a new gravel bike for the winter commute
I switched to winters really early this year, my excuse is that they're new and you're supposed to bed the studs in on tarmac.
You need to run tubes for years to appreciate tubeless reliability.
American here, definitely pronounce Thule as "Too-Lee"
I'm riding a pair of Goodyear Eagle F1's and they're performing surprisingly well under all weather conditions. Almost comparable to the GP5000.
I didn't know about the temperature numbers regarding the Pirelli 4S. I was running the regular Pirellis during winter and noticed the tires would slip a lot when powering up some climbs and I just thought it was because the Pirellis suck at grip.
Winter & training: Vittoria RideArmor tubeless, 28c front / 30c rear... add a smidge more sealant than usual. Bliss.
I like how long Ollie took to explain basically the definition of ... pressure 🥸
Cintaurato velo . Not fast and a bit wooden. But bullet proof
To be fair after the seasonal switch from gp5000 to Cinturatos I barely notice the slightly higher rolling resistance, especially after a couple of rides. I think they're pretty fast, and certainly comfortable. Sometimes think I'd be happy running them all year round 🤔
Fun fact. The way ollie pronounce thule. Means circumcission in my language. So id go for how connor pronounce it😂😂😂
Came off my bike a few years ago, knocked out two teeth and severed my thumb, woke up on the side of the road with paramedics etc etc, first question I asked.... "Is my bike ok?" (It wasn't)
Ollie is obviously of Italian descent. Can't talk without waving his hands everywhere. LOL
Hey Conor, live in the US. Have always heard Thule pronounced like Ollie did.
From the beginning of November till March, I'm using virtual tyres 😉
I don't fancy riding outdoor in Polish winter conditions, what's unsafe and hardly pleasant. Prefer to ride on my turbotrainer using training plans on My Woosh to increase my power and getting ready for spring 😃
28mm gravel tyres on the road
Pronouncing Thule as "toley" would be a cr4p marketing strategy here in Scotland... 😂
You guys are brilliant, love watching your videos. The Colnago vid and other documentary style vids you’ve done are similar to old school Top Gear. You should use the Top Gear formulae, reviews, chatting, intellectual facts and epics
Are you moving into one of Hanks spare bedrooms?
The Bastion is stunning. I believe we have seen one already on GCN Vids. Simon Gerrans' ride on Cycling heartlands Melbourne 👍..shame we can't see the whole video😤
I ride the same type of tyres, all year long. And it's the change to "summer" tyres, I don't do! As a purely recreational rider, I'd choose the increased comfort and puncture resistance, over the decreased aero drag and rolling resistance, any day of the year. To be honest, I doubt I would be able to percieve the slightly faster tyres anyway? Maybe the placebo effect would be helpful in some way? What I'm definately able to percieve though, is a puncture! Punctures are the worst!
People saying buy a steel bike in response to a video about damaging carbon frames is so silly. I wouldn’t counter someone who’s advising wearing sunscreen to avoid getting burned at the beach to go to an indoor pool instead. Missing the point of the conversation.
If Scott can go down to 5.9KG, obviously, he IS an ADDICT!
I use the Terrene Studded 4.5in Cake Eater for fat bike riding on ice and snow
Continental Gatorskins or 4 Seasos in Winter....22mm Tubs in Summer. Puncturing is just bad luck, not the tyres....
Is there any times with tubeless you get a puncture but can't locate where the hole is?
So now we know why Alex, not Ollie, did the story on the Colnago steel bike. 😀
understand the Newtons Law...or better still the Elephant foot area compared to a stilleto heal...however, a larger area, does it mean more chance of hitting that thorn or sharp flint....I'll get my coat!
Connor is correct: the pronunciation is [tyle].
If I understand professor Ollie's unambiguous and clear explanation correctly, you get less punctures letting an elephant ride your bike than someone wearing stilettos. That's sobering advice.
A better interpretation is "if an elephant stepped on you, you're less likely to die than if that elephant were wearing stilettos." Shouldn't be too hard to figure out how that applies to tires from there.
I can't get myself to stay warm on the bike! It gets so cold! Anything under 10c is 🥶
Winter is for gravel. Summer is for road. Problem solved.
It's a bad mix of poor light, bad road conditions and glare that make winter cycling hard until mid February
So what is happening here? Conor is sat on the floor to be the same height as Ollie who is standing? 😂
@26:23 that’s definitely Californias Central Valley.
No way. Painted Desert in the Ochoco Mtns by Prineville Oregon.
Ollie looks like Conor's ventriloquist dummy 😉
2:04 conors battery going flat.
Any recommendations for grippy "winter/wet" tyre? 5-15*C, 28-30mm tyre, for 21mm inner w. rim. I thought about putting them on my spare wheelset.
In the mornings or late afternoons/at night some of my roads where I train are wet and I thought AS/4S tyres would help.
Of course I used bicyclerollingresistance, looks like GP5000 AS TR has the best grip
any experience? with it ?
or Pirelli P Zero Race 4S
Pirelli P Zero Race TLR 4S
something else?
Gp5000. The real ones. Not the tubeless ones. 30c
I really think it's the 30c that's the point! I run the tubless gp5000 actually measured at 33 through the winter with no issue.
You can get tired of tires. But you can't get tyred of tyres!
#askgcntech
Hi Olli and Fred! I have 3 road bikes that get little use during winter. What do you think about how to store high-end (summer) bikes for a long period when they are not used? What I try to do is use each one around every 2 weeks for a roller warm up before indoor (Wattbike) training to keep bearings and chainset moving. I usually clean, detail and lube them at the end of summer, then store in a heated garage. They get more heat and attention than my wife! Thanks!
Welcome to Santa Cruz .. where we have potholes and debris 24/7 ..365
Where is the new studio?
I zone out when ollie delivers his convoluted "science" takes, or unnecessarily detailed and disjointed soliloquies, which is most of the time he's talking.
I'm actually doing it right now, apparently he's still going on about tyres or something.
Wonder what I'll have for dinner? 🤔
While yes a wider, lower-pressure tire pushes a corner of a rock less into the tire there are many things to be found on the road that will puncture a road tire either way and for those, a narrower tire has less probability to hit that obstacle straight on purely by covering less of the road. Taken to an extreme but to illustrate the point if there were one shingle with a nail sticking up on the shoulder of a road and you had a 4-foot wide tire you'd get punctured regardless that you're at 2psi whereas my probability of hitting it at 28mm out of those 4ft is very low. Doing thousands of km on tires, probability is the only thing you can use. In my own experience with many thousands of km I get far far less punctures on 28mm than I did on my 40mm.
Nonsense!!!
Connor, it's thule to apologise for your pronunciation.
Thule.. interesting to see whether they will/can stop the chinese clones on Ali which cost 1/10.
GCN: The Truth About Winter Tyres . . . they don't do too well in Summer
Bendigo is not in south australia
Schwalbe Marathon 365
Continental Top Contact Winter
Spain and PORTUGAL !!!
Is Ollie on a booster seat?
No studded tires?
... If you live in Sardinia is also better than Spain, no winter tyre's needed!
Ollie is correct about Thule.
As a dane and knowing swedish quite well im gonna be very suprised if Toolee is correct. Then there is something i did not know about swedish.
Rather than sqap out the tires when the seasons change, I just throw the bike in the garbage and buy a new one. Much easier than changing the tires and winter proofig a bike
Yeah. Swapping tires is for the pours
It’s a buyers market after all
I have a question what happens when you put the tyres on in the wrong direction?
Some tyres are directional, some aren't. If they are directional and you get it wrong then you may get poorer traction in loose conditions, or sightly impaired aero if its an aero siped tyre.
You probably won't notice on a road tyre.
Clever marketing to repeat the tooly word 500 times
Week 89 of asking for a "The UCI has no jurisdiction here" t-shirt
Winter does not commence until December 21st.
The view out of my window says different 😂 ❄️
That's astronomical winter. Meteorological winter begins on 1 December. Actual winter begins when it snows.
Where the hell is Manon? Did she leave the channel??
yes, a long time ago now
Yes, before the Olympics. She was in Paris to see her partner, Ryan Mullen, finish the men's road race. You could see her at the finish when he crossed the line. She's done a bit of work for Eurosport since then.
Oh dear. That Bastion bike should be X-rated. Putting out content like that could get you banned from youtube. If my wife caught me watching this....
fumbling a lot of words today , ive rode to work (at this particlular job) admittedly not a road bike 10yrs 3 punctures , dont get me wrong still hate em
Gatorskinz all day
Knitted by robots. I wonder if they'd come and fin8dh the sweater I'm working on.
The truth about the tyre brand you endorse. Only.
Sorry, but Ollie is right. If we know the proper pronunciation, why not use it? Can we also properly pronounce the American brands Nike and Klim 😀