My thoughts on the Strava saga for what they are worth. I think Strava have done some analysis comparing exported data volumes compared to the number of subscribers and realised that people without subscriptions are exporting data to 3rd parties for analysis, rather than subscribing and using Strava analytics. By restricting the use of user data for 3rd party analysis, Strava are hoping it forces more subscriptions so people can analyse their data. So all to do with money and nothing to do with user privacy. Especially as users have to give permission and link accounts to allow 3rd parties to extract data from Strava in the first place.
The user gives permission to send the data to the 3rd party app, but Strava don’t then have control over what the 3rd party does with your data. If the 3rd party then gave away everyone’s data without permission, Strava would get in trouble from their users for linking with a dodgy 3rd party. As much as I agree that money is always a key driver, there is definitely still a data/privacy side to this.
It probably is about the money, but I don't understand how you could hold it against them if free accounts are doing most of tye exporting. Maybe they should of made being able to export the data a premium account thing
They should just make the export/share with 3rd party apps a Strava prem feature. You’re still getting paid and letting them do what they want. This issue is the non paying Strava members “taking advantage” which I get.
I wonder how much of the data is generated on strava in the first place, I would assume most of the data is imported from third party like garmin, wahoo, hammerhead, etc. I find it odd that Strava is fine getting data to analyze but then not provide it for analysis
@bradfortner1684 not when you think about it. Your data is coming from a device you paid for. Going to strava. What is most likely the issue is. People are then using a free strava account to feed a 3rd party app that they are paying for. And that 3rd part app has been built lazy and cheaply by relying on strava
The trick to flats is using properly sized mountain bike pedals with pins - and shoes with grippy flat soles - ideally fairly stiff ones. If you do that there is essentially no difference except for sprinting. The loss of form that comes from madly mashing pedals in a sprint does not go well with flats.
Watching this on Thanksgiving day here in the States. In the spirit of the holiday, I'm seriously thankful for you all and the amazing content you consistently provide. Always appreciate the quality, comfortability, and relatability of your discussions.
I'm a pretty casual rider, so I don't focus on gains, but when I take my commuter e-bike with flats and my gravel with clipless I still feel more comfortable with the clipless and feel more efficient and can lay down power better. I am still recovering from an incredibly nasty broken leg from 2023, so the clipless pedals also seem to help me keep symmetrical.
I use my battery leaf blower to dry my bike, it's great! It blows the drips out of all the little spaces in the drive-chain, bottle cages, shifters etc.
The Strava API issue impacts me. I use Trainerroad. My Zwift and outdoor rides (phone recorded) are currently synced to Trainerroad through Strava. Judging from the amount of noise around this, I assume more people than just me are using Strava this way.
Yeah I am the same with intervals. icu. Once they build the code for Zwift and other means of recording data to import directly to intervals, I don't really have any use for Strava anymore.
Exactly. I resent in any way Strava thinking that it is "Strava data." It is MY data, that I record with MY Garmin and then allow Strava to see it. I then pass that data on to TrainerRoad as well.
Confused by Nicks comment on the UDH. Wasn't the original reason for UDH ( at least what they told us) was for easy universal replacement? Example you're out of town and bike falls over and hanger is bent you can go to any bike shop or Amazon and grab one without worrying if it's the right one regardless of groupset or manufacture.
OK Jimmy, I think you should do a comparison video of your ability to ride a cyclocross course with a cyclocross bike vs a gravel bike. I ride a cyclocross bike and it’s noticeably more nimble than my previous bikes. I absolutely love it! Love the show, keep on rockin’!👊🏼
30:25 releasing a frame with a UDH hanger is still a nice move for customers, even if they're never going to use anything else than campag. If you bend the existing one, you won't need to go to specialised website to order the correct one, and can just pop in any bike shop to get a replacement.
Shimano makes casual SPD shoes that are just _perfect_ for non-competitive riding. Proper clipped-in pedaling, comfortable, look just like regular shoes.
Totally,that idea is long gone In fact several good studies have shown little difference between flat and clipless in real world cycling I use clipless for road and flat off road
I watched Nics bike build yesterday.....the algorithm works. It's beautiful to watch a master of their craft. A work of art. Bravo Nic. Love the podcast too of course.
Jimmy, "Receivership" is an entirely normal and universal business rescue procedure. The term is routinely used in the UK; in fact, it originated here. A third-party receiver is appointed to try and rescue the business, protecting employees, customers, etc.
Regarding drying your bike - I got a pet dryer, designed for blow drying your dog or cat after washing them. I never intended to use it as such but got it for drying my motorbike after washing it so I didn't put it away wet where it could corrode (same reason as with bicycles discussed in the podcast). It's great for drying down the bicycles as well. Just Google them, plenty of different ones on Amazon. I went for one of the higher power rated ones, it blows out warm air and with the small nozzle attached it gives a really good blast. It's great for overall drying the bike but where it comes into it's own is for blowing water out of small nooks and crannies such as your chain, between cassette sprockets, out of screw heads and recesses, it blows water from the holes in brake rotors and from the inside of brake calipers and around the pads, around brake lever pivots, from clipless pedal mechanisms, spoke nipples, underneath saddles - basically everywhere. The air blast isn't like a pressure washer jet where it could blow crap into bearings or blast grease out of them - but use common sense at the same time.
Sorry Nick, but riding clipless is not the only way to achieve a proper pedal stroke (and pulling up on the upstroke is more inefficient). Repeated testing has shown us otherwise. Clipless' advantage is mainly in sprinting, and maybe for really steep climbs but outside of these instances, efficiency differences are negligible.
Someone trained to ride clipless pedals will be more efficient than someone trained to ride flats. Not sure what testing you are referring to, but clipless pedaling recruits more muscles which gives the rider a higher maximum muscular input throughout the whole pedal stroke.
@@DelTacoBueno Not trying to be argumentative, but not necessarily. Clipless has an efficiency & power advantage in sprinting and out-of-saddle climbing, but the advantage outside of these specific instances is likely insignificant. Controlled testing has been reported in many published studies. If the goal is optimizing efficiency, a rider would want to recruit the least muscle as possible for the most power and speed. This is one reason why pulling up on the backstroke is a less efficient pedaling technique. Decades of industry claims and riders passing these claims along to other riders makes it harder to accept when conventional wisdom is wrong.
@@iecrime More muscles sharing the workload allows less overall fatigue and the body to work in a more efficient state. Undeniable scientific science 😉
@@DelTacoBueno 😁The problem is that by recruiting more muscles to pedal, you're expending more muscle energy. But efficiency in cycling is about expending less energy to produce the same amount or more power. This is why Nick was wrong in suggesting that proper pedaling technique includes pulling up on the backstroke. By doing so and therefore recruiting the hamstrings more, you're expending more energy than if you just focused on the downstroke.
In our mid 60s I’m getting my wife more interested in cycling. I put mtb flat pedals on a road bike w 30mm tires so we can ride fine gravel and pavement. She recently mentioned they allow her to be firmly engaged even to be able to pull up. I realize that doesn’t mean straight up but spiked flats offer a lot of the curve engagement without the newbie terror of engaged pedals.
Jimmy saying anything about anybody else's fashion choices while looking like he's about to move to the south of France and cut his ear off is very rich😂❤
I am a clipless user and it is not always a popular option for MTBing. I have a few friends a lot more skillfull then me and on flatties they have some skills! It depends generally on disipline but i would say they are not unpopular in the MTB world! Road and gravel yes maybe but MTB its pretty acceptable. Great podcast guys! Great to see Nic again! Just signed up to his channel. 👍
I use an electric air duster to dry my bike and it works great for all the hard to reach places (cassette, derailleurs, etc.). Just blast them with air and they'll dry in literally seconds. And when you're done you can use it to blow the dust out your keyboard and off your plants. Absolute game changer for me.
I totally forgot people actually care about groupsets, I just combine bits that I like from different groupsets. For Example on my neo-retro road bike I have SRAM Rival fully mechanical 11 speed levers and rear derailleur, Shimano 600 tricolor crankset with a TA single chainring and Shimano 105 BR-1055 brakes. It's a combination of my favourite bits of each within my budget. I don't think I'll ever buy a full groupset, I like SRAM shifting but prefer Shimano brakes and Shimano aluminium cranks.
1:04:23 Chemist here. Be VERY careful with putting alcohol in spray bottles. Rubbing alcohol might be fine, but don't use most chemical grade ethanol because it tends to be denatured with compounds that make it extremely toxic to ingest. Spraying will just release them into the air and allow you to breathe them relatively easily. If you want a spray bottle of ethanol, make sure it's not denatured or high in methanol. I'd also dilute it with 30% distilled water to prevent it from evaporating super quickly (we used this in my last job for cleaning lab benches). The denaturing is for tax and (ironically) safety reasons because you can't drink it, so it's cheaper and college students will be less likely to steal it because it's incredibly unsafe to drink.
There is a distillery 4 blocks from me which, as a side gig sells doped ethanol to local old farts homes for sanitizing. They are very careful and open about what they add. Stupid expensive but it what I use on my plastics and in the kitchen when I'm in juicing or canning mode. 75-80% depending on the batch.
Another fine podcast. I am with with Jimmie on the pedals. After 30 years riding clipless pedals, I switched to flats. Since I don't race or "pull up" on the up stroke, no need. I also have very stiff flat shoes that grip and combo pedals Shimano M324 (flat on one side and clip on the other). Ride what suits you best.😊 Took me a minute, when Jimmie said " Nik" it was the British way of pronouncing Nike ( Nai-kee). I live a few miles from their HQ here in Oregon. Just say'n😅
I think several studies showed that even pro riders don't pull on the up stroke, but it's one of those myths that refuses to go. What shoes do you use? Some type of MTB ones?
at 49:30 yes, we do this procedure on motorcycles, too. Never brake to full stop before the pads are bedded. You may get them to vitrify and they will never work properly.
Regards drying off the bike. I use a very small compressor. Aldi/Lidl do them for a relatively low price. Ther retailera are available.😉I was gifted one, with a slight damage issue, the air intake filter was damaged. It was an easy fix with a plastic electrical junction box filled with sponge. It makes a tremendous job of blasting the water out of the chain links and cassette. Not to mention the spoke nipples.
Cyclocross rules! We have a weekly series (14 weeks Aug-Nov) here in the central US. The key is make it cheap but not free (you need stakes tape and post-ride food) and have a kids race. It should be non-competitive i.e. don't keep score. Alert when passing to be safe with all riding skill levels. People will still "race" but this keeps it relatively safe. Then talk it up to anybody who rides a bike.
There's a charity ride I've done for the past 3 years (The Great Cycle Challenge - USA) that pulls participants' route data from Strava to track mileage; this would effectively shut that down
I prefer the mountain bike spd pedals and cleats - it's what I've been using since the late 90s on my mountain bike, and currently on my road bike, too. To me, it makes a difference on hills. And I'm not elite by any means!
There are enough studies now that clipless pedals are not more efficient than flat pedals. And something like a perfect "proper" pedal stroke does not exist. Not one pro is actually pulling up his pedal. You don't even need studies for this. It's just 101 physics. Even if you do pull up the pedal, this does come at a cost of energy, done by a small muscle that is not very efficient. Just go through it yourself. if you don't come to the same conclusion you are not a rational person and you let feeling decide over what is true. @Nick >If the industry finds out a way to monetize pedal stroke Funny you say this because you believing all this made up nonsense about proper pedal stroke and pulling up, is the industry monetizing pedal stroke lol You literally fell for it
I prefer to be clipped in because it puts my feet in the same place and I don't get joint pain on long rides. Flats kill me every time I go over an hour on a ride.
On drying a bike, I’ve been using a high pressure blower that is used for cleaning IT equipment like keyboards. Will dry the drive train in under a minute. The device I got is called Compu Cleaner by the brand IT Dusters. Got off Amazon for about £30.
Ditto, I buy multipacks of compressed air canisters from Amazon every so often. Can direct it into chains, bearings, etc quite accurately and catch the droplets with a towel on the other side.
For a very light rider like me, I kinda need clipless pedals. With normal flat pedals, I always tend to bounce off the pedals from slight bumps in the road, especially during gravel riding.
What does make being clipped in more efficient, is that your foot is always in the optimal position (assuming you have them set up correctly), even if you can recreate that position with flats
For drying the bikes these days I use the pet dryer that our dog now has no share. It is effectively an overdimensioned hair dryer with a hose and a nozzle and works perfectly. 😉
Most of the issues I've had with bike fitment are the stores have nothing in stock to try and sitting someone on a machine isn't the answer (I want see and try)...I called my fairly local supplier of Colnago and they had nothing apart from the C68 and suggested they wouldn't be getting anything because of Colnago's export model.
KMC EPT chains ... genuinely rustproof. Also there are flats and there are flats. Big MTB pedals with studs and grippy, stiff shoes are not the same as slippery rubber flats and a pair of flipflops. Clipless are a pain in the arse around town.
I use an air compressor to blow the water out of my chain and put the bike in a room with a dehumidifier 🤷 if you don't have a compressor, a leaf blower will work too
I'm with jimmy about strava, it wont affect many people really. however I've cancelled my strava as the cost keeps going up and I'm getting less use from it, particularly the fact that you cant make segments them being silly long now which sucks for mountain biking, so many new "off piste" trails now start on bridleways or finish at a road which is a safety issues. as for the chain rust, get a rechargeable keyboard blower (available on amazon for about £15/20) instead of a hairdryer
Clipless pedals help me to have my feet always in the same position towards the center of the pedals. With flats, even worse with pins I always struggled to have the right position on the pedal.
Regarding the sync clap: one of the podcasts I listen to counts together from 1 to 10. All the hosts there are calling in and it's easier for them to sync 3 or 4 different audio files
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But with Marathon Plus tires you'll never have a flat one without the maintenance effort of a tubeless setup! I love my old sturdy pair of Marathon Plus tires on my city bike. Granted it's not as comfortable but the most important thing for my commuter is to be rideable at all times :)
Re spoke nipples for winter protection, my LBS mechanic recommends vaseline, safer than WD40 for not getting everywhere. Saves on the salt gritted streets corrosion.
I appreciate that Backyard Bikes is a great bike shop BUT not all of us can afford their level and not all us are blessed with decent local bike shop. Our local shop is grim (happy to sell you a very expensive eBike but have almost no gravel bikes in stock) and then there is Halfords :-( But it's worth travelling for a decent bike shop
Straps were used with toe-clips. Pedal, toe-clip, strap. It was a system that also included a shoe cleat that had a slot that hooked onto the pedal. The toe-clip and strap, when cinched tight, prevented the cleat from coming off the pedal. To be extra sure, Alfredo Binda straps are preferred. So, when the current system was introduced by LOOK in ‘83-‘84, the toe-clip/strap system slowly started to be replaced by this new-fangled clip-less system. (Unless your name was Sean Kelly)
Think i need a trip to see nick ..... get bike fit and build , seems absolutely great from a customer POV nothing is the same no be pressured into anything. get what works for you,
Jimmy, you're missing some big points on the Strava issue. 1- the data in question is not strava's, it belongs to people who created that data with their sweat and dedication through their workouts 2- nearly all strava data is created on non-strava devices like computers, watches. even if a company would be claiming ownership of that data other than the user (they will be wrong) that would be apple, wahoo, garmin, fitbit etc.. 3-if the user gives permission to other apps to download and use their own data, it's between that app and the person who owns that data. it would've been ok if stava were to impliment a more vigourous authorisation process to protect their users privacy, but they are all so transparent that we all see this move is to hinder other apps ability to serve their custommers and replace those apps with strava premium services (which don't work nearly as good by the way. their "Athlete's Foot" is nothing but a joke.
Jimmy is a stubborn guy, we know this, but a CX bike isn't a gravel bike, or vice versa - especially in 2024 when the geometry of "the gravel bike" has changed so much over the past 7+ years that we now differentiate between a gravel bike, a gravel race bike and an adventure/bikepacking bike (which in itself is divided into stiff or suspended versions). Geometry aside, you ain't getting off the start line with a Specialized Diverge or a Ridley Kanzo (because of the UCI).
I depends on what shoes and what pedals. If you’ll use soft Temu shoes on small platform pedal, you’ll be faster and more efficient on a good flat pedal. Or wearing a hard carbon shoe on a big platform pedal.
Would love to him more from Nick on UDH future use. Always enjoy listening to Nick's detailed thoughts/opinions. Nick's own podcast? Discuss topics while building a bike?
Missing out the fact that for example trainer road can't analyse the data from Strava for their machine learning as they have no sync between wahoo and trainerroad
Never had an issue with rusty chains. Just a quick wipe down after a ride. The wax should protect from rust. Or take it off and dry it if you don't want a little surface rust build up
There's some misunderstanding/lack of understanding on the Strava issue. Nic was in the right ballpark but Jimmy dismissed it as a non-issue without knowing what is actually happening. Strava working as the middle man makes it so that every device/app doesn't have to have a separate API for every other device/app. They all use Strava as their "standard" and information can be shared between devices and apps. The privacy concern is just an excuse because all users have to turn on the external app connections. If I upload anything to Strava that goes to TrainerRoad, good, that's what I want. If TR does something nefarious with that data that's on TR, not Strava. Now that we've converted a majority of bike frames to UDH SRAM can't come along and ban every component manufacturer from making a compatible groupset. That's similar to what Strava is doing here. Strava has added AI analysis of rides lately and it's TERRIBLE. They're so far off base that I wish I could turn it off.
Regarding drying bike. I usually leave my bike in the kitchen with a cheap desk fan on the floor. Go and watch something on tv and it's usually dry when I come back. I have been ridiculed for this..but with 12 speed stuff I'd rather be mocked than pay money for new parts.
54:05 im agreeing with this from the off , never had clippies ,have rode in slrap ons (lol) a long time ago , cant be arsed to try clipless got some great flatties on my cannondale 😅
Yes - check the source of your information: I nearly bought a Bowman on strength of David Arthur review. Only the long lead put me off - a lucky escape.
I use Pro Bike Garage to track the mileage and service intervals on components, and it works through Strava. If it weren't for that I'd drop Strava like a hot potato.
Could you please elaborate on the wd-40 on the spoke nipples and other places? Is this common practice? I live in a wet climate and Ive never heared of doing stuff like that to my bike, but maybe its something I should do?
Interesting re the dog clapper. The bell/phone "ting" noise you use triggers seizures in our dog. Took ages to identify it as the source. Have to watch with headphones only just in case!
By far the most serious rookie error one can make when purchasing a velocipede is not buying a second-hand specimen, ideally one that has not been criminally removed from its original owner.
Regarding buying a bike. Many people will be tempted to buy online as the savings are potentially really high right now and you can punch above your budget. I get this fit first buy later thing but let’s face it, it’s for rich people. Geometry Geeks probably has your current bike on there. I recommend to spend some time there and analyze the differences to your new bike options then go deep on the variations. Also pay attention to what is integrated and how much money it will cost to swap a stem or bar. That’s how I buy my bikes anyway . Granted I move a lot for work so I never have a permanent local bike shop i go to.
My thoughts on the Strava saga for what they are worth.
I think Strava have done some analysis comparing exported data volumes compared to the number of subscribers and realised that people without subscriptions are exporting data to 3rd parties for analysis, rather than subscribing and using Strava analytics. By restricting the use of user data for 3rd party analysis, Strava are hoping it forces more subscriptions so people can analyse their data.
So all to do with money and nothing to do with user privacy. Especially as users have to give permission and link accounts to allow 3rd parties to extract data from Strava in the first place.
The user gives permission to send the data to the 3rd party app, but Strava don’t then have control over what the 3rd party does with your data. If the 3rd party then gave away everyone’s data without permission, Strava would get in trouble from their users for linking with a dodgy 3rd party. As much as I agree that money is always a key driver, there is definitely still a data/privacy side to this.
It probably is about the money, but I don't understand how you could hold it against them if free accounts are doing most of tye exporting.
Maybe they should of made being able to export the data a premium account thing
They should just make the export/share with 3rd party apps a Strava prem feature. You’re still getting paid and letting them do what they want.
This issue is the non paying Strava members “taking advantage” which I get.
I wonder how much of the data is generated on strava in the first place, I would assume most of the data is imported from third party like garmin, wahoo, hammerhead, etc. I find it odd that Strava is fine getting data to analyze but then not provide it for analysis
@bradfortner1684 not when you think about it. Your data is coming from a device you paid for. Going to strava. What is most likely the issue is. People are then using a free strava account to feed a 3rd party app that they are paying for. And that 3rd part app has been built lazy and cheaply by relying on strava
Strava not sharing _their_ ride data ..
- without crowd harvesting users they would have zero data
The trick to flats is using properly sized mountain bike pedals with pins - and shoes with grippy flat soles - ideally fairly stiff ones. If you do that there is essentially no difference except for sprinting. The loss of form that comes from madly mashing pedals in a sprint does not go well with flats.
Did Jimmys' eyebrows fly south for the winter?🤔
He's a mess
He has a London look.
Transplanted them to his upper lip
@@daniels.2720 🤣
Moved down on his lip
Watching this on Thanksgiving day here in the States. In the spirit of the holiday, I'm seriously thankful for you all and the amazing content you consistently provide. Always appreciate the quality, comfortability, and relatability of your discussions.
Thanks for the support. Happy Thanksgiving
5:03 Of course Orlando is a sporting legend! Remember him stair-surfing on a shield at Helm's Deep?
He also did some impressive ultra-distance running while following the orcs to the the plains of Rohan
Nics channel, since there wasnt a link in the description:
www.youtube.com/@NicVieriMechanic
Thank you 🫶🏼
Top fella, cheers 👏.
@@NicVieriMechanic thanks for being on the show. I just subscribed to your channel.
@ thank you so much 🙌🏼
"And the man in the shop, Tadej Pogačar" ... that was a good belly laugh. Well played, Emily.
Same! I actually lol’d!😂
Jimmy absolutely looks like an inmate… 😂
YES!! Like the 50’s movies portray a thief!😂
That studio is freezing. I lucky have a heated seat. Jimmi isn’t that lucky 🤣
@@NicVieriMechanic So a heated seat for guests only? Pity… Have them start some crowdfunding thing to get some for themselves, I can spare a tenner. 😅
@ haha, I think Francis bought it. Jimmi would
Never waste money on something that sensible 🤣
Jimmy has strong Dexys Midnight Runners vibe
I'm a pretty casual rider, so I don't focus on gains, but when I take my commuter e-bike with flats and my gravel with clipless I still feel more comfortable with the clipless and feel more efficient and can lay down power better.
I am still recovering from an incredibly nasty broken leg from 2023, so the clipless pedals also seem to help me keep symmetrical.
I use my battery leaf blower to dry my bike, it's great! It blows the drips out of all the little spaces in the drive-chain, bottle cages, shifters etc.
The Strava API issue impacts me.
I use Trainerroad. My Zwift and outdoor rides (phone recorded) are currently synced to Trainerroad through Strava.
Judging from the amount of noise around this, I assume more people than just me are using Strava this way.
Yeah I am the same with intervals. icu. Once they build the code for Zwift and other means of recording data to import directly to intervals, I don't really have any use for Strava anymore.
Exactly. I resent in any way Strava thinking that it is "Strava data." It is MY data, that I record with MY Garmin and then allow Strava to see it. I then pass that data on to TrainerRoad as well.
Confused by Nicks comment on the UDH. Wasn't the original reason for UDH ( at least what they told us) was for easy universal replacement? Example you're out of town and bike falls over and hanger is bent you can go to any bike shop or Amazon and grab one without worrying if it's the right one regardless of groupset or manufacture.
OK Jimmy, I think you should do a comparison video of your ability to ride a cyclocross course with a cyclocross bike vs a gravel bike. I ride a cyclocross bike and it’s noticeably more nimble than my previous bikes. I absolutely love it!
Love the show, keep on rockin’!👊🏼
30:25 releasing a frame with a UDH hanger is still a nice move for customers, even if they're never going to use anything else than campag. If you bend the existing one, you won't need to go to specialised website to order the correct one, and can just pop in any bike shop to get a replacement.
Shimano makes casual SPD shoes that are just _perfect_ for non-competitive riding. Proper clipped-in pedaling, comfortable, look just like regular shoes.
Like their touring shoes?
@@wandering_pete There's even better options than getting shoes from Shimano.
I thought scraping the pedal back and pulling up was irrelevant, and currently considered bad advice?
Think it's also been shown that pro riders don't pull on the up stroke either.
Totally,that idea is long gone
In fact several good studies have shown little difference between flat and clipless in real world cycling
I use clipless for road and flat off road
Jimmys Statement on gravel bikes are the same as cyclocross bike needs a full video.
Maybe Participate in a race with francis and swap Bikes mid race
Unless it’s a race orientated gravel bike, they can be as different as a road bike and a touring bike
Jimmy, just because you don’t use/understand the Strava situation doesn’t make it a non issue. Have a lovely holiday season.
I watched Nics bike build yesterday.....the algorithm works.
It's beautiful to watch a master of their craft.
A work of art. Bravo Nic.
Love the podcast too of course.
Jimmy, "Receivership" is an entirely normal and universal business rescue procedure. The term is routinely used in the UK; in fact, it originated here.
A third-party receiver is appointed to try and rescue the business, protecting employees, customers, etc.
Regarding drying your bike - I got a pet dryer, designed for blow drying your dog or cat after washing them. I never intended to use it as such but got it for drying my motorbike after washing it so I didn't put it away wet where it could corrode (same reason as with bicycles discussed in the podcast). It's great for drying down the bicycles as well. Just Google them, plenty of different ones on Amazon. I went for one of the higher power rated ones, it blows out warm air and with the small nozzle attached it gives a really good blast. It's great for overall drying the bike but where it comes into it's own is for blowing water out of small nooks and crannies such as your chain, between cassette sprockets, out of screw heads and recesses, it blows water from the holes in brake rotors and from the inside of brake calipers and around the pads, around brake lever pivots, from clipless pedal mechanisms, spoke nipples, underneath saddles - basically everywhere. The air blast isn't like a pressure washer jet where it could blow crap into bearings or blast grease out of them - but use common sense at the same time.
Sorry Nick, but riding clipless is not the only way to achieve a proper pedal stroke (and pulling up on the upstroke is more inefficient). Repeated testing has shown us otherwise.
Clipless' advantage is mainly in sprinting, and maybe for really steep climbs but outside of these instances, efficiency differences are negligible.
Someone trained to ride clipless pedals will be more efficient than someone trained to ride flats. Not sure what testing you are referring to, but clipless pedaling recruits more muscles which gives the rider a higher maximum muscular input throughout the whole pedal stroke.
@@DelTacoBueno Not trying to be argumentative, but not necessarily. Clipless has an efficiency & power advantage in sprinting and out-of-saddle climbing, but the advantage outside of these specific instances is likely insignificant. Controlled testing has been reported in many published studies. If the goal is optimizing efficiency, a rider would want to recruit the least muscle as possible for the most power and speed. This is one reason why pulling up on the backstroke is a less efficient pedaling technique. Decades of industry claims and riders passing these claims along to other riders makes it harder to accept when conventional wisdom is wrong.
@@iecrime More muscles sharing the workload allows less overall fatigue and the body to work in a more efficient state. Undeniable scientific science 😉
@@DelTacoBueno 😁The problem is that by recruiting more muscles to pedal, you're expending more muscle energy. But efficiency in cycling is about expending less energy to produce the same amount or more power. This is why Nick was wrong in suggesting that proper pedaling technique includes pulling up on the backstroke. By doing so and therefore recruiting the hamstrings more, you're expending more energy than if you just focused on the downstroke.
In our mid 60s I’m getting my wife more interested in cycling. I put mtb flat pedals on a road bike w 30mm tires so we can ride fine gravel and pavement. She recently mentioned they allow her to be firmly engaged even to be able to pull up. I realize that doesn’t mean straight up but spiked flats offer a lot of the curve engagement without the newbie terror of engaged pedals.
Jimmy saying anything about anybody else's fashion choices while looking like he's about to move to the south of France and cut his ear off is very rich😂❤
The Strava thing is basically the same enshittification which happens with all tech once its market strength is great enough.
This is the smart take
About right. They make go pro seem almost intelligent. Definitely a press of the “what can we do to piss our community off”.
I am a clipless user and it is not always a popular option for MTBing.
I have a few friends a lot more skillfull then me and on flatties they have some skills!
It depends generally on disipline but i would say they are not unpopular in the MTB world!
Road and gravel yes maybe but MTB its pretty acceptable.
Great podcast guys!
Great to see Nic again!
Just signed up to his channel.
👍
I use an electric air duster to dry my bike and it works great for all the hard to reach places (cassette, derailleurs, etc.). Just blast them with air and they'll dry in literally seconds. And when you're done you can use it to blow the dust out your keyboard and off your plants. Absolute game changer for me.
This is definitely my favourite weekly watch. The show I most look forward to. It's fun and collegial and I wish it was 30 mins longer!
Thanks Nick as always 👍🏻
I totally forgot people actually care about groupsets, I just combine bits that I like from different groupsets.
For Example on my neo-retro road bike I have SRAM Rival fully mechanical 11 speed levers and rear derailleur, Shimano 600 tricolor crankset with a TA single chainring and Shimano 105 BR-1055 brakes. It's a combination of my favourite bits of each within my budget.
I don't think I'll ever buy a full groupset, I like SRAM shifting but prefer Shimano brakes and Shimano aluminium cranks.
Dear Lord, what an absolute horror show
I’ll go out on a limb here. Nobody needs to be spending extra money on a groupset, 105 (or equivalent) is utterly fine.
1:04:23 Chemist here. Be VERY careful with putting alcohol in spray bottles. Rubbing alcohol might be fine, but don't use most chemical grade ethanol because it tends to be denatured with compounds that make it extremely toxic to ingest. Spraying will just release them into the air and allow you to breathe them relatively easily. If you want a spray bottle of ethanol, make sure it's not denatured or high in methanol. I'd also dilute it with 30% distilled water to prevent it from evaporating super quickly (we used this in my last job for cleaning lab benches).
The denaturing is for tax and (ironically) safety reasons because you can't drink it, so it's cheaper and college students will be less likely to steal it because it's incredibly unsafe to drink.
There is a distillery 4 blocks from me which, as a side gig sells doped ethanol to local old farts homes for sanitizing. They are very careful and open about what they add. Stupid expensive but it what I use on my plastics and in the kitchen when I'm in juicing or canning mode. 75-80% depending on the batch.
Props to the guy earlier who suggested leaf blower for driving water off bikes but those with an air compressor in their garage have got it made.
I had forgotten Jimmy was in Dexys Midnight Runners
Oh come on Eileen 😅
It's more Geno era.
Another fine podcast.
I am with with Jimmie on the pedals. After 30 years riding clipless pedals, I switched to flats. Since I don't race or "pull up" on the up stroke, no need. I also have very stiff flat shoes that grip and combo pedals Shimano M324 (flat on one side and clip on the other). Ride what suits you best.😊
Took me a minute, when Jimmie said " Nik" it was the British way of pronouncing Nike ( Nai-kee). I live a few miles from their HQ here in Oregon. Just say'n😅
I think several studies showed that even pro riders don't pull on the up stroke, but it's one of those myths that refuses to go.
What shoes do you use? Some type of MTB ones?
In Britain most people say nike, not nai-kee. Pretty sure ‘nai-kee’ is the correct pronunciation though.
at 49:30 yes, we do this procedure on motorcycles, too. Never brake to full stop before the pads are bedded. You may get them to vitrify and they will never work properly.
Sorry when did jimmy become a 2015 British hipster transplant living in Berlin?
He’s showing personality in the way he dresses :) It’s a positive
I like jimmys different outfits
He is living the life aquatic.
I think he looks like a 1930s pimp
Team zissou away kit?
Regards drying off the bike. I use a very small compressor. Aldi/Lidl do them for a relatively low price. Ther retailera are available.😉I was gifted one, with a slight damage issue, the air intake filter was damaged. It was an easy fix with a plastic electrical junction box filled with sponge. It makes a tremendous job of blasting the water out of the chain links and cassette. Not to mention the spoke nipples.
Cyclocross rules! We have a weekly series (14 weeks Aug-Nov) here in the central US. The key is make it cheap but not free (you need stakes tape and post-ride food) and have a kids race. It should be non-competitive i.e. don't keep score. Alert when passing to be safe with all riding skill levels. People will still "race" but this keeps it relatively safe. Then talk it up to anybody who rides a bike.
There's a charity ride I've done for the past 3 years (The Great Cycle Challenge - USA) that pulls participants' route data from Strava to track mileage; this would effectively shut that down
I prefer the mountain bike spd pedals and cleats - it's what I've been using since the late 90s on my mountain bike, and currently on my road bike, too. To me, it makes a difference on hills. And I'm not elite by any means!
There are enough studies now that clipless pedals are not more efficient than flat pedals. And something like a perfect "proper" pedal stroke does not exist. Not one pro is actually pulling up his pedal. You don't even need studies for this. It's just 101 physics. Even if you do pull up the pedal, this does come at a cost of energy, done by a small muscle that is not very efficient.
Just go through it yourself. if you don't come to the same conclusion you are not a rational person and you let feeling decide over what is true.
@Nick
>If the industry finds out a way to monetize pedal stroke
Funny you say this because you believing all this made up nonsense about proper pedal stroke and pulling up, is the industry monetizing pedal stroke lol
You literally fell for it
Matt Richardson actually competed for GB for the first time just recently. He actually won, beating the Dutch guy that beat him at the Olympics.
Nic should be a default member of the podcast. I just like the vibe 🙂
I prefer to be clipped in because it puts my feet in the same place and I don't get joint pain on long rides. Flats kill me every time I go over an hour on a ride.
On drying a bike, I’ve been using a high pressure blower that is used for cleaning IT equipment like keyboards. Will dry the drive train in under a minute.
The device I got is called Compu Cleaner by the brand IT Dusters. Got off Amazon for about £30.
Does it dry it with the heat or just blow the water off?
@ no heat, it’s just a powerful, focussed stream of air
Ditto, I buy multipacks of compressed air canisters from Amazon every so often. Can direct it into chains, bearings, etc quite accurately and catch the droplets with a towel on the other side.
For a very light rider like me, I kinda need clipless pedals. With normal flat pedals, I always tend to bounce off the pedals from slight bumps in the road, especially during gravel riding.
Please do Nick. Your mechanic vids would be ace!! Keep up the good work. How does the Battaglin ride? Looked amazing. 🤘👌
I also think that "being clipped in is more efficient" is a big myth. However I agree there are plenty of other reasons to prefer to be clipped in.
What does make being clipped in more efficient, is that your foot is always in the optimal position (assuming you have them set up correctly), even if you can recreate that position with flats
For drying the bikes these days I use the pet dryer that our dog now has no share. It is effectively an overdimensioned hair dryer with a hose and a nozzle and works perfectly. 😉
Most of the issues I've had with bike fitment are the stores have nothing in stock to try and sitting someone on a machine isn't the answer (I want see and try)...I called my fairly local supplier of Colnago and they had nothing apart from the C68 and suggested they wouldn't be getting anything because of Colnago's export model.
The irony of this video is that you’ve released it after I’ve just bought myself a new bike this morning…
What did you get? 😊
Exactly the same for me haha. Came 2 hours late
When I bought a new saddle form the LBS, they let me borrow 3 test saddles and then i bought the version i preferred!
KMC EPT chains ... genuinely rustproof. Also there are flats and there are flats. Big MTB pedals with studs and grippy, stiff shoes are not the same as slippery rubber flats and a pair of flipflops. Clipless are a pain in the arse around town.
Best bike build videos imho are Blue Lug in Japan, Old Shovel in the USA, and Toasty Rides in NZ , in that order.
For data export from Strava, you can transfer ride data via gpx file.
I use an air compressor to blow the water out of my chain and put the bike in a room with a dehumidifier 🤷 if you don't have a compressor, a leaf blower will work too
I'm with jimmy about strava, it wont affect many people really. however I've cancelled my strava as the cost keeps going up and I'm getting less use from it, particularly the fact that you cant make segments them being silly long now which sucks for mountain biking, so many new "off piste" trails now start on bridleways or finish at a road which is a safety issues.
as for the chain rust, get a rechargeable keyboard blower (available on amazon for about £15/20) instead of a hairdryer
Clipless pedals help me to have my feet always in the same position towards the center of the pedals. With flats, even worse with pins I always struggled to have the right position on the pedal.
Regarding the sync clap: one of the podcasts I listen to counts together from 1 to 10. All the hosts there are calling in and it's easier for them to sync 3 or 4 different audio files
But with Marathon Plus tires you'll never have a flat one without the maintenance effort of a tubeless setup! I love my old sturdy pair of Marathon Plus tires on my city bike. Granted it's not as comfortable but the most important thing for my commuter is to be rideable at all times :)
It requires a special type of arrogance to claim that data I create with your app belongs to you and you can tell me what i can do with it.
Re spoke nipples for winter protection, my LBS mechanic recommends vaseline, safer than WD40 for not getting everywhere. Saves on the salt gritted streets corrosion.
Recommending vaseline on nipples... is this turning into a running podcacst...? But seriously yes.
I like that idea 👌🏽
Got to love the arrow with “avoid this” pointing at the very bike I own 😢
I appreciate that Backyard Bikes is a great bike shop BUT not all of us can afford their level and not all us are blessed with decent local bike shop. Our local shop is grim (happy to sell you a very expensive eBike but have almost no gravel bikes in stock) and then there is Halfords :-( But it's worth travelling for a decent bike shop
But then I’ve had 2 really good bikes from Halfords by a) knowing what I want b) buying at the right time of year.
Dehumidifier... works an absolute treat to dry your bike. Dry after an hour or so.
Puppy’s back. I’m happy. 10/10
Drying your bike, i use a cheap knock off makita leaf blower, just blows all the water off the bike in under 2 mins, can then oil chain and put away
Never understood the term, ‘clipless pedals’. One clips into them 🤷♂️.
Strapless pedals, yes.
Straps were used with toe-clips. Pedal, toe-clip, strap. It was a system that also included a shoe cleat that had a slot that hooked onto the pedal. The toe-clip and strap, when cinched tight, prevented the cleat from coming off the pedal. To be extra sure, Alfredo Binda straps are preferred. So, when the current system was introduced by LOOK in ‘83-‘84, the toe-clip/strap system slowly started to be replaced by this new-fangled clip-less system. (Unless your name was Sean Kelly)
what models of smart watches do you all use and why ?
Pro Tip: the dirt cheap Wyze "smart watch" give a very generous sleep hours metric compared to any other watch I've owned.
1:01:30 I'm going to use that a my ringtone, wonderful sound Jimmy 😄
Think i need a trip to see nick ..... get bike fit and build , seems absolutely great from a customer POV nothing is the same no be pressured into anything. get
what works for you,
As soon as I glimpsed Jimmy, Home Alone just flashed before my eyes.
Jimmy, you're missing some big points on the Strava issue. 1- the data in question is not strava's, it belongs to people who created that data with their sweat and dedication through their workouts 2- nearly all strava data is created on non-strava devices like computers, watches. even if a company would be claiming ownership of that data other than the user (they will be wrong) that would be apple, wahoo, garmin, fitbit etc.. 3-if the user gives permission to other apps to download and use their own data, it's between that app and the person who owns that data. it would've been ok if stava were to impliment a more vigourous authorisation process to protect their users privacy, but they are all so transparent that we all see this move is to hinder other apps ability to serve their custommers and replace those apps with strava premium services (which don't work nearly as good by the way. their "Athlete's Foot" is nothing but a joke.
Jimmy is a stubborn guy, we know this, but a CX bike isn't a gravel bike, or vice versa - especially in 2024 when the geometry of "the gravel bike" has changed so much over the past 7+ years that we now differentiate between a gravel bike, a gravel race bike and an adventure/bikepacking bike (which in itself is divided into stiff or suspended versions).
Geometry aside, you ain't getting off the start line with a Specialized Diverge or a Ridley Kanzo (because of the UCI).
Also not if you put CX rims / tires on them? I thought Van Aert rode some races on the Aspero and not on the R5CX either last year or the year before.
I depends on what shoes and what pedals. If you’ll use soft Temu shoes on small platform pedal, you’ll be faster and more efficient on a good flat pedal. Or wearing a hard carbon shoe on a big platform pedal.
Would love to him more from Nick on UDH future use. Always enjoy listening to Nick's detailed thoughts/opinions. Nick's own podcast? Discuss topics while building a bike?
Please, please do some coverage on the fact Wout Van Aert was in the Belgium Masked singer
Missing out the fact that for example trainer road can't analyse the data from Strava for their machine learning as they have no sync between wahoo and trainerroad
Never had an issue with rusty chains. Just a quick wipe down after a ride. The wax should protect from rust. Or take it off and dry it if you don't want a little surface rust build up
There's some misunderstanding/lack of understanding on the Strava issue. Nic was in the right ballpark but Jimmy dismissed it as a non-issue without knowing what is actually happening. Strava working as the middle man makes it so that every device/app doesn't have to have a separate API for every other device/app. They all use Strava as their "standard" and information can be shared between devices and apps. The privacy concern is just an excuse because all users have to turn on the external app connections. If I upload anything to Strava that goes to TrainerRoad, good, that's what I want. If TR does something nefarious with that data that's on TR, not Strava. Now that we've converted a majority of bike frames to UDH SRAM can't come along and ban every component manufacturer from making a compatible groupset. That's similar to what Strava is doing here.
Strava has added AI analysis of rides lately and it's TERRIBLE. They're so far off base that I wish I could turn it off.
Regarding drying bike. I usually leave my bike in the kitchen with a cheap desk fan on the floor. Go and watch something on tv and it's usually dry when I come back. I have been ridiculed for this..but with 12 speed stuff I'd rather be mocked than pay money for new parts.
Best way to dry bikes after washing is use a blower. Air displaces the water and speeds up the drying.
54:05 im agreeing with this from the off , never had clippies ,have rode in slrap ons (lol) a long time ago , cant be arsed to try clipless got some great flatties on my cannondale 😅
Will this strava export affect the wandrer app?
Yes - check the source of your information: I nearly bought a Bowman on strength of David Arthur review. Only the long lead put me off - a lucky escape.
I use Pro Bike Garage to track the mileage and service intervals on components, and it works through Strava. If it weren't for that I'd drop Strava like a hot potato.
Where can I get a Backyard Bike Shop sweater? 🙏
Could you please elaborate on the wd-40 on the spoke nipples and other places? Is this common practice? I live in a wet climate and Ive never heared of doing stuff like that to my bike, but maybe its something I should do?
Interesting re the dog clapper. The bell/phone "ting" noise you use triggers seizures in our dog. Took ages to identify it as the source. Have to watch with headphones only just in case!
Lubbing your chain... wink wink... and setting up your wahoo...that was the best😆😆
Nic needs to be on here weekly.
I must confess I find Nic a bit "Marmite"
i, too, am terrified of the clap. i’m not sure we’re talking about the same thing, though
cord shirt goes crazy jimmski
I'm sorry but I'm very confused with the whole strava thing. Why would you use in when you have a Garmin or w/e? I get plenty enough through that
I use a leaf blower to dry my bike. An air compressor would also work.
By far the most serious rookie error one can make when purchasing a velocipede is not buying a second-hand specimen, ideally one that has not been criminally removed from its original owner.
Why is Jimmy dressed like a fishing boat captain from Gloucester Mass? 😂
Regarding buying a bike. Many people will be tempted to buy online as the savings are potentially really high right now and you can punch above your budget.
I get this fit first buy later thing but let’s face it, it’s for rich people. Geometry Geeks probably has your current bike on there. I recommend to spend some time there and analyze the differences to your new bike options then go deep on the variations. Also pay attention to what is integrated and how much money it will cost to swap a stem or bar. That’s how I buy my bikes anyway . Granted I move a lot for work so I never have a permanent local bike shop i go to.