@@robertdaneski3423 Boath sides are delusional, people who blindly accept religion and reject evolution or science are just as delusional as the ones who are "sure" that "we know", or that science solved, or will eventualy solve everything. Science knows very very little, and those things that we know are just a bunch of assumptions, we don't know absolutely anything, human beings are not smart enough to answer these questions right now and it might be the case we will never answer them as long as we exsist. So pretending that we "know" is delusional however you put it. They are on the completely the same level of delusion. So yes, you're 100% right, delusion is a real thing !! I can't believe the arrogance and pride in the comment section... "We are the smart ones"... please bro shut up ... honestly I'm weeping, I'm weeping for humanity !!
Her patronising smile and laughter was only there to combat his condescending tone and patronising remarks like “haven’t you seen the evidence,” implying she doesn’t research what she says. Watch it again
Your body can function without god, but not without water. Anything you dont require to survive is a desire or want. I can't believe I'm even explaining this elementary level concept.
You can't reason someone out of something they didn't reason themselves into. Their wilful ignorance is wilful, they "know the truth" and will disregard anything to the contrary because they have their "truth" and it is just like they want it.
I can't believe i made it through that whole thing. She had me wanting to rip my ears out. I'm so glad Richard can teach me patience with these kinds of people.
Dawkins stated that DNA is "beautifully arranged". My question to Dawkins would be arranged by what or by whom and for what purpose? The issue with both world views is that they believe mutual exclusivity, My view is that a creator does not preclude evolution and evolution does not preclude a creator; not necessarily Yahweh. Both ridiculous view points in my opinion.
@@timojazz6829 Did they not teach you this in high school? DNA arranged itself as the earth evolved and became hospitable to new life forms. DNA had been around for 3 billion years while DNA only stores genetic information that wasnt always the case, we had RNA before wich did 2 things stored genetic information and processed catalytic function RNA had 2 jobs the organisms that it suported were more limited DNA only shows up after proteins take over catalytic functions allowing for much more complex life forms. We still have vestigial evidence of evolution in humans today, goosebumps are a good example we don't need them anymore because we have become hairless creatures and they will disappear eventually further down the line. We didn't know any of this a thousand years ago, think of all the questions we will be able to answer a thousand years from now. This idea that some conscious being needs to be the reason for everything is absurd, things happen without intervention.
Dogs can be indoctrinated, same as humans. Try a really squirrely rescue sometime, and discover how it feels to be viewed as the New Demonlord, until they're deprogrammed and introduced to a paradigm of love and patience to replace the terror and twisted abuser-worship they've known all their lives.
The lady has mastered the language of a cult with a healthy dose of projection. A sweet smile and tender voice that fails to hide the anger and ignorance just below the surface of her outward manner.
NO unless you are blind and deaf or stupid you'd have seen dawkins playing to the crowd for sake of footage that he could lie to. He demanded concrete evidence of creation from her when there none for abiogenesis in return. With no lab evidence of either dawkins knows hes just getting footage that he can peddle. Both sides of the debate are thus Hypothesis & one of the debaters is being a charlatan marxist bully. Hes got a preference the same as any non believer. But the only way hes have the right to cheat a debate as he did here & in countless others in in a fascist nation. As unenjoyable as it seems THERE IS NO EVIDENCE / DISPROOF OF A GOD & NONE FOR THE ORIGIN OF LIFE ON EARTH BY NATURAL SELECTION Its not legitimate to fake talk this specific evidence vs evidence matter knowing neither have it no matter how much Dawkins wants to. A disingenuous video with fans not intelligent enough to see the cunning he used in order to obtain such click bait is the pointless outcome ( except what what went in his wallet )
The crap that the majority of the world’s people readily swallow and believe keeps us divided but the challenge of getting everyone adopted (& mentally evolved) shows there will be chimpanzees like this woman and humans like Dawkins
Scientist: Look at these fossils. Creationist: *ignores fossils* Scientist: You ignored the fossils... Creationist: That's exactly the kind of ad hominem attack that stops us from being able to have a conversation. It's not ad hominem to call out a bullshitter for bullshitting.
@@timojazz6829 you don't know what the definition of ad hominem is, because just calling someone an insult is not an ad hominem LMFAO, ad hominem would be if I denied your entire argument based on the insult I am using alone, insulting you for being wrong is not ad hominem, you can insult someone and also criticize their arguments on a factual basis, but unlike us, Christians have to use Ad Hominem because they have no argument, they have no evidence, and they deny all evidence presented, so you condescend and deny all evidence like this woman, because you didn't come to your conclusions through reasoned, well thought out positions.
@@timojazz6829it's not actually an ad hominem falacy since he didn't try to discredit her arguments because of her smile, he just pointed out that he finds it horrifying
@@tafdizShe would be right up front meting out the bloody justice. I find her phony. I think if she had any political power she would be a theocratic tyrant.
I was about to say people like this are snakes, but I don't want to insult snakes. She is a monster, like many of her kind, false hypocritical smiles whilst spewing poison and hate.
@@hawk2million It really is so incredbly hard to watch and to think there people like this that exist. Imagine being the one talking to her, Richard has incomparable patience.
@@niblick616 You just carry on supporting new atheism in the irrational belief its a required function in society. New atheism is a thought crime modelling lab thats shutting all free speech under an anti religious guise right in front of your dozy lily livered brain & its why its all kicking off out there. When was the last time you failed to notice that since new atheism started sht stirring these matters got 1000 times worse ? What do we call persons who can give birth usually ? We are being told its not right to say yes ? That what happens when a new atheism model - thats exactly the same THINK crime model - escapes its cage and turns into a general sociological totalitarianism geist. If you want to lose freedom carry on supporting the hunting down of religious people. Who are not the ones that need stopping. The religious people being arrested are just christians, usually old dying upwards old men and ladies who are defenseless. Nobody else is being told they can't do it - just old christian pensioners
Arguing with an idiot is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the bird is going to shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway. Arguing with creationists will almost always end this way. You will be frustrated, pained and gobsmacked by their inability to listen to respond and they will be proud because they "beat you".
How did evolution make the brain?how did evolution know to put in place the millions of inter@cting parts in the hum@n body? The brain monitors the co2 levels in the blood snd alters our bresthig rate,*,how did this evolution know to do yjis an$ the myriad. Of other interactions
@@globalvillage423 and how does peer pressure make it any better? They will feel ashamed and become bitter towards you. If you want to convince others, just talk to those others.
Because she knows her beliefs are faith based and she assumes that science is also based on faith. Therefore, she chooses the faith that is the true one because it's true because she says so.
If you're so big, how can you be dragged down by the little one, _ Mark Twain? It's your false imagination that you're big in your own belief. What a naked shame.
@@auturgicflosculator2183 Closed-mindedness is a huge problem in the mind of the godless. I can write more about the extreme importance of this argument. I promise I will not use childish thoughts just to senselessly argue. But, first, would you mind elaborating more on your thought? I will reply.
I have come to see to comments after couple of minutes if actually someone could listen this till the end. The smile of her is terrible. I'm kind of getting angry while I'm watching and listening....
I'm a combat veteran and I find this woman to be one of the most terrifying things I have ever seen. If people like her ever take control you can kiss your freedom goodbye forever.
If I'm ever suffering from low blood pressure I'll be sure to revisit this video. Seriously, I don't know how Richard deals with such stupidity and hubris.
moderate your language and wash your mouth, even if u r right, it doesn't mean you have the right to call others ideas and beliefs stupidity, wash your mouth and educate yourself!
@@tdoc666___ language doesn't matter. There is no ethical high ground based on how explitive one chooses to be and has no effect on the basic arguements being debated. Pearl-clutching ought to be added to the list of logical fallacies.
Oh Richard. I remember watching this a few years ago. Your patience with this lady is outstanding. She obviously didn’t know you were an esteemed evolutionary biologist, until you told her towards the end. Her glazed expression on her face, as you explained the facts, was funny, but also extremely sad. She doesn’t want to be convinced of evolution, no matter how much evidence she is provided with.
I can promise you she knew exactly who he was and what she was doing. She is a professional public relations consultant for a conservative Christian organization who's agenda it is to promote the teaching of creationism alongside evolution ("teach the controversy") in science classrooms in the U.S. She had her own camera crew present, and she manipulated the interview to get the footage she could later edit beyond all recognotion into a 5 minute hit piece which makes her look the heroine and richard the fool. She effectively shot her own B roll. You can even hear her dropping editing cues "Back that out". She is shrewd and media savvy.
@@AbdullahI-pi8bf you can track back the evolution of land vertebrates based on paleontological findings paired with comparative anatomy, embrology (EvoDevo) and comparative genetics. Based on this, we now have a pretty good understanding of how animals evolved through time. We even tracked the changes in position, structure and function of particular bones, say the gill arches or ear bones.
@@benediktk.8228Buddy, I don't mean to discourage you, but you may be wasting your time. People who do not understand why the believe what they believe can never be convinced to question what they believe - it is too much of a psychological threat to their sense of self. Very few religionists will ever seriously ask themselves how they happened by incredibly very good luck to have been born into the one true religion. They just don't. Religion cannot be questioned - don't waste your time.
When she said "your close mindlessness" I started laughing so hard, my colleagues looked up. I explained to them what I was looking at and now we're all laughing. Somewhere at a workplace in Belgium.
When I watched her, I literally imagined, that the forehead is somewhat shorter, as if no brain is above the eyes. She should dedicate her mortal remains to science.
though Dawkins is already out of mind person, yet hats off to Dawkins for not getting further out of mind. Keep it up and stick in stupid and unscientific beliefs of blind evolution, without background how and why it occurs.
As a Religious Educator, this debate is essential viewing for all students in terms of how religious fundamentalism can ignore or completely distort the scientific evidence relating to evolution.
1 Corinthians 1: 18. The Word of God is foolishness to those who are perishing . Romans 14:11 Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. evolution is a religion based on an unprovable theory and the artifacts fossil remains are certainly open to interpretation Calling evolution a fact is a lie .
@@mhughes1160 The Bible is ultimately a book of faith. To interpret it and use it as a book of science creates layers of contradictions that ignores or distorts the evidence for evolution and sets the stage for an unhealthy rivalry between the two. Every student needs to be afforded the opportunity to learn about major religions in addition to learning about hard won science. It is, therefore, up to the students themselves, to make an informed decision as to the best way the Bible should be interpreted in a world surrounded by science as anything less is simply indoctrination. The Bible has inspired Shakespeare, Martin Luther King Jr., Mahatma Gandhi and countless others as a key source of inspiration in their lives and this has benefitted our world enormously. A fundamental and literal reading of the Bible is incompatible with the modern world and science and can very often lead to extremism given that it was written at a time when women were treated as second class citizens. For example, what parts of the Old Testament laws should a person follow? Should all men follow the prohibition to refrain from cutting the corners of their beards? (See Lev 19:27) What about parts of the Old Testament that advocate death for disrespecting one's parents? (see Exodus 21:17). Should we simply ignore the parts of the Bible that we don't like? Evolution has been proven time and time again as the best possible explanation for why were are here. We are the product of millions of years of evolution. Does this rule God out of the equation entirely? Many Christians, Catholics, in particular, believe that God is working through evolution.
@@noelj.collins9502 Romans 3: 4 Let God be true and every man a lier. Charles Darwin / Piltdown Man / fraud- hoax Actually the Bible is a History book and many archaeological discoveries confirm it. God gave 10 commandments summed up in two 1. Love God 2. Love your neighbor as you love yourself
LOL! She's the Karen who whines about the coffee machine but doesn't throw the dues in, and insists on parking wherever she wants, complains about the washroom and does absolutely nothing of substance.
Unfortunately this conversation was not about evidence. Fortunately it was civil and serves to establish lines of communication upon which hopefully can blossom into a conversation about the evidence. It is pointless to even attempt to discuss the evidence if you can not establish lines of communication. For all those on both sides, myself included, who cringe at this conversation and feel their blood pressure raising I say take a deep breath and return to the conversation when you can without raging emotions as such emotions do not help either side. Respect how Wendy feels dismissed and science is demeaning. You have to establish communication with as little emotional charge as possible before you can even discuss evidence. This is what Dawkins is doing, learn from the master.
whenever a Christian says "stop shoving it in our faces" regarding Atheism, Homosexuality, etc: remind them that evangelization is a central pillar of Christianity, and that Christians have spent 2,000 years shoving Christianity in everyone's face.
OMG, I can't believe how patient Richard Dawkins is with this woman. I would have flipped out at her already. Did she ever say what "facts" she has for creationism other than we should follow it because it results in a better society.
The audacity of her laughing while one of the most intelligent and knowledgeable scientists of this era is talking to her, and the absolute impoliteness of not even offering him a seat, while talking about 'respect' is mind blowing to me.
It took me 6 separate listens to get through this. I’m concerned about the children in America. You are incredibly patient Richard. Thanks for bringing truth to the masses.
6 times? probably you never ever debated anyone and thus you had it very easy in ur small little buble. now can you get how silly you look and how wrong you could be by this fact alone?? :P
@@GetZappéd1974Republicans are attacking the public education system in order to push religion on children. I grew up in Ireland. It won't work. I was taught by nuns, and I am atheist
I don't think I have ever seen somebody as passive-aggressive as Wendy Wright. Her outward demeanour is that of somebody who's open, warm and receptive. 😆 As the interview progresses, you see that her goal is certainly not about dialogue. Her mind is very closed.
Haha she keeps asking "where is the evidence?". Science IS evidence. The audacity of this question coming from her perspective of "faith" is simply astonishing. How nice for her to be so completely convinced she is right, must be extremely comforting. Good for her 😂
I'm an Atheist but not a new atheist for a simple reason. And you'll realise new atheism is a thought crime modelling lab thats shutting down everyones free speech eventually. ( hiding behind science )
Darwin is correct about evolution, but I would much rather live in a nieghborhood created by a person like this woman than a liberal socialistic Democrat-party person. Look at what the Democrat Party soft-on-crime and anti-victim liberals have turned out inner cities into. They are hellscapes of crime, drugs, filth, vandalism, etc and are places one could only describe as Darwinian jungles.
My daughter went through an ordeal every time she went to the doctor for her WANTED pregnancy. People screamed at her and threatened her although it was obvious her pregnancy was way too far advanced for an abortion, and that she was there to get medical supervision so that she would have a healthy baby! But the screaming, threatening protesters didn't care about my daughter's wish for a healthy baby at all! They wanted to harass anyone associated with a facility that might oversee a woman's pregnancy-- because MAYBE someone might have an abortion. And who cares how many healthy, happy babies the doctors there helped bring into the world!
I won't lie, I'm struggling to watch this. It's hurting my brain. I've no idea how Dawkins stays so composed dealing with these people. Quite clearly a brilliant man on many different levels.
@sauravsharma8461 *Not* just some. All Evolution Theory remains a theory. Not a fact. You just clarifying that the Evolution theory clearly not evolved to become a fact.
@@WaktuPagiYukbruh check fossila od early hominins on internet. Check it urself . Why debating others? Dont trust holy books now . God doesnt eegard this tiny planet as only focus of his attention 😅
Dear Mr. dawkins, Thank you for the video. Until now I was an atheist and convinced of the theory of evolution. However, this video has opened my eyes. I now believe in God, who created everything. Heaven, earth and hell. Because your attempt to have a reasonable conversation with this person is irrefutable proof of hell.
@FightFilms Ah yes, it takes faith to belive one of the most well proved theroys in biology. A classic argument from people who base their worldview on faith, claiming faith is bad while having faith and going against a group that relys on as little faith as possible. This is a very well thought out argument clearly
@@datguy3333Neodarwinism believes that nature is all there is and that nature has the power to create simple living things and then to go on to make more complex things. This indeed is faith! But faith or belief is not an action or activity of matter but of mind. Mind is not part of nature but of supernature. Mind is a kind of software or language and new code is needed from mind for doing more complex things. Genes are codes. DNA is where the code is written in matter!
@@datguy3333 You called it a theory, and that's exactly what it is. But it's not well proved, if it is, then you prove it! But you cannot, you just listen to idiots like Dawkins and believe anything they say. You were brainwashed as a child reading Tommy the T rex stories at school and that's the only knowledge you have about evolution. You have the same faith in Darwin as Christians have in God!
i am blessed to have never met such a complete bot in person. imagine getting to talk to such a brilliant scientist as dawkins, yet somehow so skillfuly managing to waste your own time and his.
This was actually conducted years ago, it’s not new. I suffered through this the first time, I can’t do it again. This woman is unbelievable! I’m at loss for words.
I thought that's what I said? The reason i mentioned it is that on my feed it states that the video was uploaded 4 days ago. Even though I recognized the woman's name, I thought it might be a new interview. Then I realized it was not, at which time I also told my self that Dawkins would not subject himself to such a fruitless exercise, again! @@Jessica-pl5tm
Thank you for bringing this interview back into my life. Never before have I seen someone use so many words to say nothing. You have the patience of a saint
A benevolent god has clearly saved me from having to speak to this woman in real life and provided a means for stopping the video so that I need to endure only a modest interval of the pain of listening to her. Thank you, Richard, for suffering so that the rest of us can be spared. You're a blessing to us all. 😉
Why evolutionist go to the weakest representative of the young Earth Creation movement? Why Richard Dawkins doesn't discuss strong advocates of the young Earth Creation movement?
@@EyemBobbyMom .He could have picked any top level young Earth Creationist (biologist or genetist, geologist, physicist or Paleontologist etc) like David McQueen or John Stanford or mark armitage or Donny from "Standing for truth" channel or mart from standing for truth channel or Robert sungenis etc
This is what happens when scepticism isn't backed up by a healthy amount of rationality. There is a limit to what you can question and it's when a fact is built upon observation and a shitload of experimental evidence. This needs to be taught along with scepticism and questioning. Knowing it's limits!
Yes. Why can't you find a spot to sit down... perhaps offer your guest a glass of water? Ridiculous, petty, passive aggressive crap, right from the outset.
That was her first aggressive, insulting move of many. The disrespect is embarrassing to witness. I'm sure she read a book of tactics to throw off one's debate opponent and thought she was very clever, like Michael Scott in that episode of The Office.
she has the most unintelligent smirk I've seen on any human or non-human ape. She gives me the same uncanny-valley feeling of a dumb doll robot with human features.
Her primary argument seems to be her view that belief in evolution results in bad things for society and that a Christian belief makes society warm and fuzzy. Putting aside the veracity of that view, the fact that one belief is more comforting than another is not, of course, a valid reason for believing one thing or another.
As a ‘non science’ background person and former worshipper I can honestly say that these religious based people are so invested in their beliefs that they become almost aggressive and insulting in the name of their god of which I now realize that there is definitively no evidence. It is almost like they are ‘projecting’. I think Richard is right on the mark where he hints at that they have a fear of being overwhelmingly discredited which prompts an emotional reaction. He is amazingly articulate and patient with this woman, much respect to him.
I became uncomfortable listening to her. So many logical errors and lack of critical thinking. The most frequent technique used was to change the subject when faced with a good point or challenge. The most annoying was to claim she was being disrespected when she was simply effectively challenged.
Spot on, she gishgalloped and deflected every question and point Dawkins made, then had the nerve to say he wasn't answering her question, after telling her it was an irrelevant question and why. She falsely tied to claim 'hostility and ad hominem' whenever Dawkins made a good point she couldn't respond to in a stunning display of pearl clutching. She obviously has no grasp of epistemology, empiricsm, evidence, or science for that matter.
I remember this interview... It's equally as frustrating as the first time I saw it. I envy Richard's patience, I would've blown a fuse within the first 5 minutes. How can you speak with somebody about evolution when they haven't the faintest idea what evolution even is?
You're a better person than me because I lost interest within 3 minutes and 45 seconds. I'm starting to understand why a lot of fundamentalists don't want women to be pastors. 😂😂😂
even Darwin himself said that there are no intermediate fossils to back up the theory of evolution. that means you have two foundationless-theoryists debating...once you discover empirical truth, you can laugh at all of the puppets in the puppet show.
Every time he asked her a question she smiled like The Joker and dodged the actual question. I would love to see which parts of her brain light up under an MRI as she's 'experiencing' things.
@@ralphashmore5694 I love how you think it's all about intellectual competition instead of truth seeking. But if it is, intellectual competition that is, then yeah. Logic and reason triumph believes and dogma anytime.
@@be2the4out obviously. Figuratively, I don't think anyone's is. The point in all this is, rejection of science by creationists like that woman in the video, cannot be useful for humanity.
She is calling him frustrated, close minded, agressive, dumb when in reality she was only describing herself without realizing. That is the power of cult. Looks like mother nature didn't spread intelligence equally which explains why there are so many creationists in this world. 😂
This lady's reasoning is like a fly trapped inside your car or your room... you open a window and try to guide it, yet it keeps banging its head pointlessly against the glass! Prof. Dawkins has my utmost respect for his infinite patience.
Not sure why people react so violently to the “accusation” they they have an agenda. If you didn’t have an agenda/motive to do or say something, you wouldn’t.
@@SpiritualPsychotherapyServices I understand that but there's nothing wrong with not using the highest form of etiquette in a youtube comment. He couldve called him Richard as well
When very young children are repeatedly taught things.. regardless of truth or scientific evidence, eventually they believe it like the beating of their own hearts. Even if the information was not true from the very start. The success of religions is based upon this fact. If the 'trainers' waited until the the child became 18 years old.. do you think the adult child would believe it? Most likely not.
@@runewolf77 my friend, you haven't heard your views challenged by well informed people. this woman isn't the head of the young Earth Creation moment. He could have picked any young Earth Creationist (biologist or genetist, geologist, physicist or Paleontologist etc) like James tour or David McQueen or John Stanford or mark armitage or Donny from "Standing for truth" channel or mart from standing for truth channel or Robert sungenis etc
THANK GOD religions didn't cause atrocities, just respecting the human being. I hope those who lost their lives know and appreciate it. She makes a difference between the dominations?? Yeah sure. It TOTALLY makes a different in her the validity of her book.
It does not matter how much evidence is presented to someone like Wendy. They are too invested in their delusion with minds trained in self-deception, logical fallacy, and cognitive dissonance to ever be persuaded by such paltry things like logic, facts, and evidence.
It's almost like watching Cunk on Earth! I want more of her. It's so satisfying to hear her argument with that amazing laughter on her own stupidity! I want to invite her to a party full of biologists. Argue evolution vs creationism. Support and encourage her until we hear all of Wendy Wright!
Not to offer someone a seat or a drink is so describing. I'm only 13 minutes in, and I'm already out of patience... However, seeing as Richard had to endure making this "interview" - so will I. Out of admiration and respect for Richard. ❤
I know! Richard asked “Where shall we go?” And she said how about we take three steps over here? It immediately felt like she didn’t want this conversation to go on very long.
When I was a fundamentalist Christian, I would ignore arguments and debates. The only way to reach me was through short quips and comical cartoons about how absurd individual bible stories are. Even still, it took years of that and years away from the church for me to stop plugging my ears and ignoring reality. I doubt an event like this reaches anyone, but I hope it does.
@@Pass-dj9xt Many self proclaimed good Christians would disagree with you on what to base beliefs on, and every religious group that ever existed would disagree with you on which word is actually God's.
“Show me the evidence of evolution” she says but presents none for creationism. All the harm done by the philosophy of Darwinism yet overlooks all wars based on religion.
But the rhetoric they use is to admit they have no evidence and only faith. Then they equal science with faith and thus claim that both should receive the same status.
There isn't anything we can do to educate people like this, she has her 2,000 year old book that was written and edited by a group of men and that is all she'll accept.
And that Book contains concurring reports by several eye-witnesses and men across the ages, and one can travels to actual sites on earth where physical evidence substantiates the reports. Mr, Dawkins believes in a book that is only about 130 years old, and was the writer's proposed Theory - one man, with no evidence, anywhere.
@@wiska5114 humans wrote your book and there is no evidence whatsoever to back up their claims, all experts can agree on is they are based on myths and a lot of interpretation of mythology.
@@democraticman3602Once archeologist said there were no such people as the Hittites the Bible said they existed. Guess what? The found the civilization of the Hittites showing that Bible is true.
Secular history books back up the claims in “this Book” (and most part of this book is older than 2000 years) I think your claims of “all experts” and “no evidence” are extreme.
Sadly, we are no longer evolving. Evolution is a biological response to environmental conditions. We develop technology to deal with the environment, so we no longer do it biologically.
Reason is also a belief because if you want to take reason to it's limits you'll find that there is no matter only waves that behave like particles in the presence of an observer. So the only logical reason is that the observer is actually God and each observer is actually creating the matter that they see by the very act of looking
@@KasuraKumagi24 You're both wrong. Reason is a method that works and can be proven logically. Theism is a belief without proof. You are expounding metaphysical gibberish. Again read your text before you press reply.
Are you freaking kidding me? Belief getting in the way of reason? You believe billions of years ago, lightning struck some water and some chemicals formed into the most complex digital code in the world that has the blueprints to build life, with workers that all work together to copy the code, workers who check for mistakes, machines that read the code and build as the code instructs, and machines that fold the structures into the correct shape. An electric motor with a rotor and stator that produces the energy for the cell. Bacterium flagellum have tails that propel them through liquid. They have an electric motor with a rotor and stator, 100,000 rpms and water cooled, a drive shaft, universal joint, propeller, bushings and rings, a clutch and braking system. And it's impossible for to have slowly evolved its parts one at a time, because it's irreducibly complex, and it needs all the parts there at the same time for it to work. Natural Selection only preserves things that have an immediate survival advantage. If you think all that formed one part at the time, and it not working until all the parts were finished, and that no intelligence was involved, you are the one letting beliefs get in the way of reason
a simple "pan over to the person talking" simply would NOT have been enough I truly wonder how absolutely distracting it must have been for these two to have this guy madly dashing around lol
@@jdarminworst cameraman ever. If u dont have two cameras just put down your fucking phone or rent another , this is not a videogame this is an interview. He is sprinting around them . What the fuck
SHE SCARES ME !!REALLY IF I HAD TO STAY WITH HER FOR A DAY AND STAY OVER NIGHT I WOULD BE TERRIFIED OF WAKING UP AND SHE'S STANDING OVER ME WITH A CORK SCREW LOL
At least Wendy never used the government to force her views on all of us like Madalyn Murray O'Hair did . Madalyn was so evil , and she tried to tell us whwt to do and how to live . Madalyn will not tell our son he cannot pray in school , and that he cannot sing Christmas carols in school !
One who believes human beings are cousins of chimpanzees is a cousin chimpanzees. Scientists who are atheistic are not enlightened yet. Why there are living creatures rather than none beyond Earth. It is because of some organic dust blown from the other part of the universe; come on, don't be ridiculous. It is the most evil idea that one denies his creator.
This was like listening to the ramblings of a sovereign citizen at a traffic stop, where the cop (played by Dawkins) endures countless assertions that "we aren't driving, we're traveling, I'm not engaged in commerce, I don't need a license to travel" being uttered by the person behind the wheel. If you haven't watched those police encounters, check them out, they're hilarious.
"Where is the evidence?" "It's in the DNA, it's in the geographical distribution of species, it's..."(woman interrupting:) "But where is the actual evidence?" I would probably have walked away at that point. Great admiriation for the patience of Richard Dawkins. Do we need to have patience with a blatant desire to NOT listen to reasonable arguments? I don't think so. She behaves like a three year old, it's sad to see.
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Dawkins has the patience of a Saint. Ironically.
Maybe “the patience of Charles Darwin” should replace “Saint”?
Delusion is a real thing
Haha, yeah, I am sure that I would have screamed because of this ignorant dummy
@@robertdaneski3423 Boath sides are delusional, people who blindly accept religion and reject evolution or science are just as delusional as the ones who are "sure" that "we know", or that science solved, or will eventualy solve everything. Science knows very very little, and those things that we know are just a bunch of assumptions, we don't know absolutely anything, human beings are not smart enough to answer these questions right now and it might be the case we will never answer them as long as we exsist. So pretending that we "know" is delusional however you put it. They are on the completely the same level of delusion. So yes, you're 100% right, delusion is a real thing !! I can't believe the arrogance and pride in the comment section... "We are the smart ones"... please bro shut up ... honestly I'm weeping, I'm weeping for humanity !!
His ability to remain calm would give you the impression she has not said anything absolutely ridiculous. Incredible.
Her patronizing smile and laughter, contrast radically with her impervious hearing. Dawkins deserves a medal for his patience.
Imagine what it would be like if you were married to her.
You Don't like a strong woman in God 😂
She speaks very well
Her patronising smile and laughter was only there to combat his condescending tone and patronising remarks like “haven’t you seen the evidence,” implying she doesn’t research what she says. Watch it again
@@24funkyguy Exactly and we are still waiting on Dawkins supposed evidence
@@RichardDawkinsIsaNonce Hmm, and where is there one shred of creationism and any God??
“You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe”
― Carl Sagan
“Need” (the longing for God) is a legitimate reason to seek Him. Just as thirst (the longing for water) is a legitimate reason for seeking water 🤗
Your body can function without god, but not without water. Anything you dont require to survive is a desire or want. I can't believe I'm even explaining this elementary level concept.
@@Sfenx_Muenchen You, umm, are dumb
And on emotional attachment / investment
You can't reason someone out of something they didn't reason themselves into. Their wilful ignorance is wilful, they "know the truth" and will disregard anything to the contrary because they have their "truth" and it is just like they want it.
I can't believe i made it through that whole thing. She had me wanting to rip my ears out. I'm so glad Richard can teach me patience with these kinds of people.
Dawkins stated that DNA is "beautifully arranged". My question to Dawkins would be arranged by what or by whom and for what purpose? The issue with both world views is that they believe mutual exclusivity, My view is that a creator does not preclude evolution and evolution does not preclude a creator; not necessarily Yahweh. Both ridiculous view points in my opinion.
@@timojazz6829 Did they not teach you this in high school?
DNA arranged itself as the earth evolved and became hospitable to new life forms.
DNA had been around for 3 billion years while DNA only stores genetic information that wasnt always the case, we had RNA before wich did 2 things stored genetic information and processed catalytic function RNA had 2 jobs the organisms that it suported were more limited DNA only shows up after proteins take over catalytic functions allowing for much more complex life forms.
We still have vestigial evidence of evolution in humans today, goosebumps are a good example we don't need them anymore because we have become hairless creatures and they will disappear eventually further down the line. We didn't know any of this a thousand years ago, think of all the questions we will be able to answer a thousand years from now.
This idea that some conscious being needs to be the reason for everything is absurd, things happen without intervention.
I lasted like 3 minutes
@@timojazz6829my question is why would you ask an intelligent informed person such a silly question
@@Greenland-y9sGood point! I'll direct the question to you instead.
My dog believes no god, follows no religion and doesn't read any scripture but she knows to love unconditionally and show compassion.
So did Hitler.
did you ask it if it doesnt believe in god?
@@conspiracy1914 I gave a like for you... good question... but to answer you!! yes I did... she didn't bother.
Dogs can be indoctrinated, same as humans. Try a really squirrely rescue sometime, and discover how it feels to be viewed as the New Demonlord, until they're deprogrammed and introduced to a paradigm of love and patience to replace the terror and twisted abuser-worship they've known all their lives.
🎯💯✔️
The lady has mastered the language of a cult with a healthy dose of projection. A sweet smile and tender voice that fails to hide the anger and ignorance just below the surface of her outward manner.
NO unless you are blind and deaf or stupid you'd have seen dawkins playing to the crowd for sake of footage that he could lie to. He demanded concrete evidence of creation from her when there none for abiogenesis in return. With no lab evidence of either dawkins knows hes just getting footage that he can peddle. Both sides of the debate are thus Hypothesis & one of the debaters is being a charlatan marxist bully.
Hes got a preference the same as any non believer. But the only way hes have the right to cheat a debate as he did here & in countless others in in a fascist nation.
As unenjoyable as it seems THERE IS NO EVIDENCE / DISPROOF OF A GOD & NONE FOR THE ORIGIN OF LIFE ON EARTH BY NATURAL SELECTION
Its not legitimate to fake talk this specific evidence vs evidence matter knowing neither have it no matter how much Dawkins wants to.
A disingenuous video with fans not intelligent enough to see the cunning he used in order to obtain such click bait is the pointless outcome ( except what what went in his wallet )
And glassed over eyes and condescending tone and delivery. Using "us" lol shes too far gone
Like a twin of that lady who gave the antisemitism hearing to Congress🤣 same smug cringey passive aggressiveness. The Penn State lady
Ironically her names "wright" but she's wrong about everything 🤣🤣
The crap that the majority of the world’s people readily swallow and believe keeps us divided but the challenge of getting everyone adopted (& mentally evolved) shows there will be chimpanzees like this woman and humans like Dawkins
Scientist: Look at these fossils.
Creationist: *ignores fossils*
Scientist: You ignored the fossils...
Creationist: That's exactly the kind of ad hominem attack that stops us from being able to have a conversation.
It's not ad hominem to call out a bullshitter for bullshitting.
*ad "hominen." LOL!
Spelled it wrong -
Try harder.
EXACTLY
@@scotthullinger4684 no one cares
@petermaclellan9977 - Spelled. Spelt is also acceptable.
The random smiles mid conversation for no real reason is horrifying
You prove her point with your ad hominem!
@@timojazz6829 you don't know what the definition of ad hominem is, because just calling someone an insult is not an ad hominem LMFAO, ad hominem would be if I denied your entire argument based on the insult I am using alone, insulting you for being wrong is not ad hominem, you can insult someone and also criticize their arguments on a factual basis, but unlike us, Christians have to use Ad Hominem because they have no argument, they have no evidence, and they deny all evidence presented, so you condescend and deny all evidence like this woman, because you didn't come to your conclusions through reasoned, well thought out positions.
Saying that her smile is horryfying proves only that he found her smile horryfying
@@karlscher5170 Your gift of mind reading is amazing!
@@timojazz6829it's not actually an ad hominem falacy since he didn't try to discredit her arguments because of her smile, he just pointed out that he finds it horrifying
I hope she doesn't lose her faith. Sounds like she'd be a monster without it. I don't need mythology to care about people.
@@tafdizShe would be right up front meting out the bloody justice. I find her phony. I think if she had any political power she would be a theocratic tyrant.
She is already a monster with it. I can't imagine what would be the creature without it.
I was about to say people like this are snakes, but I don't want to insult snakes. She is a monster, like many of her kind, false hypocritical smiles whilst spewing poison and hate.
That's why I've been always scared of religious people starting with my mother.
Her fake smile freaks me out…
Absolutely amazing, the lights are clearly on but there is certainly no one home!
It’s a very dim bulb
Her smugness is so palpable, I honestly must commend you on staying calm and on topic.
It's unbearable isn't it. I had to stop watching, it was hurting my head.
Yeah that's hilarious, because I have seen Dawkin's be extremely smug and patronizing during debates and conversations.
@@hawk2million It really is so incredbly hard to watch and to think there people like this that exist. Imagine being the one talking to her, Richard has incomparable patience.
@@googlespynetwork I’ve seen some stupidity but the creationist takes the biscuit.
@@niblick616 You just carry on supporting new atheism in the irrational belief its a required function in society. New atheism is a thought crime modelling lab thats shutting all free speech under an anti religious guise right in front of your dozy lily livered brain & its why its all kicking off out there.
When was the last time you failed to notice that since new atheism started sht stirring these matters got 1000 times worse ?
What do we call persons who can give birth usually ? We are being told its not right to say yes ?
That what happens when a new atheism model - thats exactly the same THINK crime model - escapes its cage and turns into a general sociological totalitarianism geist.
If you want to lose freedom carry on supporting the hunting down of religious people. Who are not the ones that need stopping. The religious people being arrested are just christians, usually old dying upwards old men and ladies who are defenseless.
Nobody else is being told they can't do it - just old christian pensioners
Arguing with an idiot is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the bird is going to shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway.
Arguing with creationists will almost always end this way. You will be frustrated, pained and gobsmacked by their inability to listen to respond and they will be proud because they "beat you".
thankyou Louise, the chess, pigeon saying had me in stitches.......love it....
How did evolution make the brain?how did evolution know to put in place the millions of inter@cting parts in the hum@n body? The brain monitors the co2 levels in the blood snd alters our bresthig rate,*,how did this evolution know to do yjis an$ the myriad. Of other interactions
You described her sublimely. 😂
Love this analogy
❤ I love this one! As a mail order bride she should be delivered with a truckloads of duct tape and preservatives and a manual reading: safe sex only!
Never argue with anyone in private (you will not convince them), argue in public to convince others.
yes, if your faulty arguments don't work, use peer pressure.
@@black-cross You will not convince them, even if you have good arguments, and you already know why.
@@globalvillage423 and how does peer pressure make it any better? They will feel ashamed and become bitter towards you. If you want to convince others, just talk to those others.
@@black-cross "They will feel ashamed and become bitter towards you." - that's exactly how cardinal Pell felt when he argued with Dawkings.
@@globalvillage423 Just Show her the evidence ... but he cannot ...
She wants evidence for evolution, but she doesn't need evidence for religion.
The Everlasting contradiction of these beliefs
Nailed it!
Because she knows her beliefs are faith based and she assumes that science is also based on faith. Therefore, she chooses the faith that is the true one because it's true because she says so.
She drove a car to her office but she thinks it appears on it's own
your opinion sounds like an everlasting contradiction
“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
― Mark Twain
If you're so big, how can you be dragged down by the little one, _ Mark Twain? It's your false imagination that you're big in your own belief. What a naked shame.
Overused
@@shroudedgrove4679 So overused that it's been falsely attributed to Twain...where all the good cliches go to live out their elder years.
@@chouleanghak5085 Blind belief is the foundation of idiocy.
@@auturgicflosculator2183 Closed-mindedness is a huge problem in the mind of the godless. I can write more about the extreme importance of this argument. I promise I will not use childish thoughts just to senselessly argue. But, first, would you mind elaborating more on your thought? I will reply.
That was one of the hardest things I’ve ever had to listen to. I don’t know how I made it to the end.
I did not!
@whatsitwhosit well she got her kit off at the end so at least there was that
Exactly...
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ I went into a trance
I have come to see to comments after couple of minutes if actually someone could listen this till the end. The smile of her is terrible. I'm kind of getting angry while I'm watching and listening....
I feel exhausted listening to her 😩
That's a side effect of hypnosis.
She just didn’t listen to anything he said and just kept on with her talking points
@@agiraffe3673 the only thing behind those dead eyes is a script.
You can see the record in her head skip a few times during this.
@@robertraab😂 hahaha totally!! Like a FKN old scratched cassette tape!🤣
Imagine being her son and being caught after drinking half a beer.
I remember feeling physical pain watching this a few years ago.
Me too.
(Ricky Gervais: Being dead is like being stupid. It's only painful for others.)
I can't watch it, I've seen clips, that was painful enough. I'm only here for the comments.
Me too. I grew up in fundamentalist creationist Christianity and this was a uniquely painful cringe flashback 😅
@@the_grand_tourer😅
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm a combat veteran and I find this woman to be one of the most terrifying things I have ever seen. If people like her ever take control you can kiss your freedom goodbye forever.
Thank you for your service 🏴 🥰
Cheers for your service to the free world
The way she talks through her smile is gravely disconcerting
@@only1jones2 absolutely.
100% true
I am deeply offended and annoyed that people like this woman are breathing perfectly good air that I could otherwise breathe.
Hahaha this comment is too wildd
If I'm ever suffering from low blood pressure I'll be sure to revisit this video. Seriously, I don't know how Richard deals with such stupidity and hubris.
Beliefs are conceptual hypnotic trances.
😂
haha i have low blood pressure and feel great after watching this lol
moderate your language and wash your mouth, even if u r right, it doesn't mean you have the right to call others ideas and beliefs stupidity, wash your mouth and educate yourself!
@@tdoc666___ language doesn't matter. There is no ethical high ground based on how explitive one chooses to be and has no effect on the basic arguements being debated. Pearl-clutching ought to be added to the list of logical fallacies.
the dedication of the camera guy need to be appreciated
My. God. She's like a satirical character. I've never encountered such an embodiment of Dunning Kruger
A satire! That was exactly the word that came to my mind. This smiling smug fool is seething with animosity beneath that glib false grin.
Haha, couldnt have said it better myself! The true definition of the Dunning Kruger effect xD
I wouldn't say this is a good example of Dunning Kruger, this is willful ignorance, not a misconception of ones proficiency in a field of study
Facts depend on what you believe.
Your god? Maybe it is the same clown as her god.
The USA is reputed for being ignorant even though they're a powerful country. This woman is a perfect example of this.
Maybe this relationship of "ignorance" and "power" is sign of divine existence 🤔
Only 1 one percent are powerful and smart
Those after the 99 percent always complaining
@@jamesrgoes _"There's nothing wrong about incest"_ - richard Dorkins
You said it…..true
Incredibly hard to watch! I admire Dawkins' patience!
I don't give him any type of credit for being patient. If he can't be calm and rational then he would be quite pathetic in my opinion.
Oh Richard. I remember watching this a few years ago. Your patience with this lady is outstanding. She obviously didn’t know you were an esteemed evolutionary biologist, until you told her towards the end. Her glazed expression on her face, as you explained the facts, was funny, but also extremely sad. She doesn’t want to be convinced of evolution, no matter how much evidence she is provided with.
She told, she wanted to see 'the evidence', but she despises to open her eyes.
shes a nutter
I can promise you she knew exactly who he was and what she was doing.
She is a professional public relations consultant for a conservative Christian organization who's agenda it is to promote the teaching of creationism alongside evolution ("teach the controversy") in science classrooms in the U.S.
She had her own camera crew present, and she manipulated the interview to get the footage she could later edit beyond all recognotion into a 5 minute hit piece which makes her look the heroine and richard the fool. She effectively shot her own B roll.
You can even hear her dropping editing cues "Back that out".
She is shrewd and media savvy.
Richard is looking for evidence but in this video he apparently couldn't identify the evidence of her dumb brain from her face.. 😂
I relate to Wendy because I also bullshitted my way through Biology class.
@@AbdullahI-pi8bf you can track back the evolution of land vertebrates based on paleontological findings paired with comparative anatomy, embrology (EvoDevo) and comparative genetics. Based on this, we now have a pretty good understanding of how animals evolved through time. We even tracked the changes in position, structure and function of particular bones, say the gill arches or ear bones.
@@benediktk.8228Buddy, I don't mean to discourage you, but you may be wasting your time. People who do not understand why the believe what they believe can never be convinced to question what they believe - it is too much of a psychological threat to their sense of self. Very few religionists will ever seriously ask themselves how they happened by incredibly very good luck to have been born into the one true religion. They just don't. Religion cannot be questioned - don't waste your time.
@@AbdullahI-pi8bf Hi Abdullah, let me guess: are you the islam type of creationist? If so, i really hope you find your way out of this death cult.
@@DaveT383 Some of them find their way out. An honest answer can work, even if it takes years.
@@AbdullahI-pi8bf
Why didnt Allah know how embryos are formed?
After seeing this, my respect for you Professor Dawkins, is ten fold….. Wow…..
When she said "your close mindlessness" I started laughing so hard, my colleagues looked up. I explained to them what I was looking at and now we're all laughing.
Somewhere at a workplace in Belgium.
*mindedness :) Glad to know there are fellow belgians watching and laughing this too :D
@@Falcontf Looking at this with Northern European eyes. Man, it has everything you need to have a good laugh.
And to think, the vote of people like this lady is considered equal to that of Richard Dawkins (whatever his politics may be). Scary.
When I watched her, I literally imagined, that the forehead is somewhat shorter, as if no brain is above the eyes.
She should dedicate her mortal remains to science.
"a peach tree dish"
Got to applaud Richard for being able to talk to this person for that long and not losing his mind.
It's really beneath him
Trust an American to congratulate a Brit for wasting his time by arguing with an id10t.
@@Joseph-fw6xxit’s important. It demonstrates his humanity and values!
He has lost his mental faculties long ago.....
though Dawkins is already out of mind person, yet hats off to Dawkins for not getting further out of mind. Keep it up and stick in stupid and unscientific beliefs of blind evolution, without background how and why it occurs.
It always makes me giggle when Christians call scientists closed minded 😂😂😂😂
The entire time Richard was talking she was only thinking of how she was going to respond. Didn't hear a thing he said.
it always make me giggle ,and alot that Atheists have a brain and actually use it🐱🐱🐱
ohhh wow defending Hawkins as a defense mechanism
@@ralphashmore5694 i know, who'd have thunk it🤣
Porkyboy ?? that is funny
As a Religious Educator, this debate is essential viewing for all students in terms of how religious fundamentalism can ignore or completely distort the scientific evidence relating to evolution.
1 Corinthians 1: 18. The Word of God is foolishness to those
who are perishing .
Romans 14:11 Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess
that Jesus Christ is Lord.
evolution is a religion based on an unprovable theory and the artifacts fossil remains are certainly open to interpretation
Calling evolution a fact is a lie .
@@mhughes1160 The Bible is ultimately a book of faith. To interpret it and use it as a book of science creates layers of contradictions that ignores or distorts the evidence for evolution and sets the stage for an unhealthy rivalry between the two. Every student needs to be afforded the opportunity to learn about major religions in addition to learning about hard won science. It is, therefore, up to the students themselves, to make an informed decision as to the best way the Bible should be interpreted in a world surrounded by science as anything less is simply indoctrination. The Bible has inspired Shakespeare, Martin Luther King Jr., Mahatma Gandhi and countless others as a key source of inspiration in their lives and this has benefitted our world enormously. A fundamental and literal reading of the Bible is incompatible with the modern world and science and can very often lead to extremism given that it was written at a time when women were treated as second class citizens. For example, what parts of the Old Testament laws should a person follow? Should all men follow the prohibition to refrain from cutting the corners of their beards? (See Lev 19:27) What about parts of the Old Testament that advocate death for disrespecting one's parents? (see Exodus 21:17). Should we simply ignore the parts of the Bible that we don't like? Evolution has been proven time and time again as the best possible explanation for why were are here. We are the product of millions of years of evolution. Does this rule God out of the equation entirely? Many Christians, Catholics, in particular, believe that God is working through evolution.
@@noelj.collins9502 Romans 3: 4
Let God be true and every man a lier.
Charles Darwin / Piltdown Man / fraud- hoax
Actually the Bible is a History book
and many archaeological discoveries confirm it.
God gave 10 commandments
summed up in two
1. Love God
2. Love your neighbor as you love yourself
@@noelj.collins9502 my friend
knowledge is one thing
Understanding is another
Romans three
One thru fifteen
It’s the key to understanding
@@noelj.collins9502 sorry that should have been John
So great this looks like it’s straight out of the office
LOL! She's the Karen who whines about the coffee machine but doesn't throw the dues in, and insists on parking wherever she wants, complains about the washroom and does absolutely nothing of substance.
She wiped the floor with Dawkins. I'm embarrassed for him.
“Show me the evidence!” … … “Why do you shove it in our faces?”
Exactly
Unfortunately this conversation was not about evidence.
Fortunately it was civil and serves to establish lines of communication upon which hopefully can blossom into a conversation about the evidence.
It is pointless to even attempt to discuss the evidence if you can not establish lines of communication.
For all those on both sides, myself included, who cringe at this conversation and feel their blood pressure raising I say take a deep breath and return to the conversation when you can without raging emotions as such emotions do not help either side.
Respect how Wendy feels dismissed and science is demeaning. You have to establish communication with as little emotional charge as possible before you can even discuss evidence. This is what Dawkins is doing, learn from the master.
whenever a Christian says "stop shoving it in our faces" regarding Atheism, Homosexuality, etc: remind them that evangelization is a central pillar of Christianity, and that Christians have spent 2,000 years shoving Christianity in everyone's face.
Try convincing the inconceivable.
@@rogankelly4820 Now we are talking quantum physics, inconceivable to most but yet reality 😲
This should have been done in a museum rather than an office.
She probably has a restraining order
XDDDDDDDDDD Yes! It would have been perfect when she'd say "where is the evidence? "
OMG, I can't believe how patient Richard Dawkins is with this woman. I would have flipped out at her already. Did she ever say what "facts" she has for creationism other than we should follow it because it results in a better society.
The audacity of her laughing while one of the most intelligent and knowledgeable scientists of this era is talking to her, and the absolute impoliteness of not even offering him a seat, while talking about 'respect' is mind blowing to me.
U are crazy he is the most highest international idiot on the planet, what he did for humanity? It's amazing how education got atheist so foolish.
This is what happens when u try and talk to a delusion person
I’m also laughing at how ridiculous richard’s faith in evilution is 😂😂😂😂
@@Daniel-o2s4l well the difference is he does not have faith in evolution 😅😅 You clearly have no idea how to figure out right n wrong.
Don't be blinded in favoritism, he is greeted and it's up to him to sit instead of start conversation directly without pause.
Delightful example of smiling hostility.
It took me 6 separate listens to get through this. I’m concerned about the children in America. You are incredibly patient Richard. Thanks for bringing truth to the masses.
We're seeing it now with Trump's cult that believe everything he says
I didn't count, but it was impossible for me too, to get through in one take.
6 times? probably you never ever debated anyone and thus you had it very easy in ur small little buble. now can you get how silly you look and how wrong you could be by this fact alone?? :P
@@GetZappéd1974Republicans are attacking the public education system in order to push religion on children. I grew up in Ireland. It won't work. I was taught by nuns, and I am atheist
I don't think I have ever seen somebody as passive-aggressive as Wendy Wright. Her outward demeanour is that of somebody who's open, warm and receptive. 😆 As the interview progresses, you see that her goal is certainly not about dialogue. Her mind is very closed.
Haha she keeps asking "where is the evidence?". Science IS evidence. The audacity of this question coming from her perspective of "faith" is simply astonishing. How nice for her to be so completely convinced she is right, must be extremely comforting. Good for her 😂
Best discussion between Dawkins and a cucumber, ever.
I see no reason to insult cucumbers!
I've never felt the need to slap some sense into a cucumber
Comparing her to a cucumber is a lovely compliment.......... to poor Wendy!!!!!
😂
@@michaelf1847 your name calling proves her point
She is terrifying. If she was my neighbour, I would be really scared...there is something of the psychopathic in her eyes.
She's hot . She can get it
I'm an Atheist but not a new atheist for a simple reason. And you'll realise new atheism is a thought crime modelling lab thats shutting down everyones free speech eventually. ( hiding behind science )
Absolutely true
Darwin is correct about evolution, but I would much rather live in a nieghborhood created by a person like this woman than a liberal socialistic Democrat-party person. Look at what the Democrat Party soft-on-crime and anti-victim liberals have turned out inner cities into. They are hellscapes of crime, drugs, filth, vandalism, etc and are places one could only describe as Darwinian jungles.
Don't worry. She's stabbing you for god. So its ok.
My daughter went through an ordeal every time she went to the doctor for her WANTED pregnancy. People screamed at her and threatened her although it was obvious her pregnancy was way too far advanced for an abortion, and that she was there to get medical supervision so that she would have a healthy baby! But the screaming, threatening protesters didn't care about my daughter's wish for a healthy baby at all! They wanted to harass anyone associated with a facility that might oversee a woman's pregnancy-- because MAYBE someone might have an abortion. And who cares how many healthy, happy babies the doctors there helped bring into the world!
One of the best memes from Richard's many debates. It's like talking to a wall.
A very arrogant and patronising wall 😂
An actual wall would have a better comprehension of science than this person.
She's talking to a wall
richard dawkins inventing and naming the concept of the meme is hilarious to me
@@markmarino5053oh dear... Have you not been taught about walls either!? 😣 How far does this go?
This is my favorite episode of The Office.
This comment should have thousands of likes 🤣
Hahahaha
LOL totally underrated comment
I won't lie, I'm struggling to watch this. It's hurting my brain. I've no idea how Dawkins stays so composed dealing with these people. Quite clearly a brilliant man on many different levels.
That's the reason why scientist still call Evolution as theory, because it's not a fact.*
@@WaktuPagiYukyup some people are clearly not evolved XD
@sauravsharma8461 *Not* just some. All Evolution Theory remains a theory. Not a fact. You just clarifying that the Evolution theory clearly not evolved to become a fact.
@@sauravsharma8461bhaiiii tu bhi nastik haiii 🤣🤣🤣?? Tumri hinduism to evolution ke saath fit baithti haiii?? I m a Sikh btw
@@WaktuPagiYukbruh check fossila od early hominins on internet. Check it urself . Why debating others? Dont trust holy books now . God doesnt eegard this tiny planet as only focus of his attention 😅
Dear Mr. dawkins,
Thank you for the video. Until now I was an atheist and convinced of the theory of evolution. However, this video has opened my eyes. I now believe in God, who created everything. Heaven, earth and hell. Because your attempt to have a reasonable conversation with this person is irrefutable proof of hell.
Amen brother
The fact that she didn't even offer you a chair tells me everything I need to know about Wendy Wright
She can't sit, ...it's that time of month....
I am confused why this whole thing took place standing up and so informally.
@@JasonKing-m6mis that how you think menstruation works? 😂
@@tracyaf6084It’s something about requiring being separated from the family into a bright red menstrual hut for a few days I think.
Because he didnt agree that human beings should be treated with dignity and respect so she obliged and he got no seat
I couldn't make it through the whole of this debate.... Dawkins needs a medal!!!
Me too.
Less then 10 minutes for me. She's so smug it's creepy.
The irony of her demanding more and better material evidence when her entire belief system is proudly based on faith is mind numbing.
Evolution is faith based.
@FightFilms Ah yes, it takes faith to belive one of the most well proved theroys in biology. A classic argument from people who base their worldview on faith, claiming faith is bad while having faith and going against a group that relys on as little faith as possible. This is a very well thought out argument clearly
@@datguy3333Neodarwinism believes that nature is all there is and that nature has the power to create simple living things and then to go on to make more complex things. This indeed is faith! But faith or belief is not an action or activity of matter but of mind. Mind is not part of nature but of supernature. Mind is a kind of software or language and new code is needed from mind for doing more complex things. Genes are codes. DNA is where the code is written in matter!
@@datguy3333 You called it a theory, and that's exactly what it is. But it's not well proved, if it is, then you prove it! But you cannot, you just listen to idiots like Dawkins and believe anything they say. You were brainwashed as a child reading Tommy the T rex stories at school and that's the only knowledge you have about evolution.
You have the same faith in Darwin as Christians have in God!
no, it really isn't @@FightFilms
i am blessed to have never met such a complete bot in person.
imagine getting to talk to such a brilliant scientist as dawkins, yet somehow so skillfuly managing to waste your own time and his.
I love it how she basically constantly laughs off her own stupidity and ignorance
That's all she's got.
The sign of nervousness and discomfort.
Her simpering laugh 😵💫
That fake smile is cringe city.
That laugh is a crack revealing her aggression and nervousness.
This was actually conducted years ago, it’s not new. I suffered through this the first time, I can’t do it again. This woman is unbelievable! I’m at loss for words.
Yes. I saw this around 10 years ago. So frustrating.
Obviously it's not new. Easily to recognise since unfortunately even Dawkins grows older, not younger.
I thought that's what I said? The reason i mentioned it is that on my feed it states that the video was uploaded 4 days ago. Even though I recognized the woman's name, I thought it might be a new interview. Then I realized it was not, at which time I also told my self that Dawkins would not subject himself to such a fruitless exercise, again! @@Jessica-pl5tm
Anyone who thinks this is new probably believes in creationism 😂
Ye. This was in 2008
Thank you for bringing this interview back into my life. Never before have I seen someone use so many words to say nothing.
You have the patience of a saint
Dawkins : "Where did you study science?"
Women : "Smithsonian only have drawings"
She completely derailed and pivoted from the question and didn’t even answer it 😂
She doesn’t answer anything anyway
A benevolent god has clearly saved me from having to speak to this woman in real life and provided a means for stopping the video so that I need to endure only a modest interval of the pain of listening to her. Thank you, Richard, for suffering so that the rest of us can be spared. You're a blessing to us all. 😉
Why evolutionist go to the weakest representative of the young Earth Creation movement?
Why Richard Dawkins doesn't discuss strong advocates of the young Earth Creation movement?
@@moneyheist_-lame
@@EyemBobbyMom .He could have picked any top level young Earth Creationist (biologist or genetist, geologist, physicist or Paleontologist etc) like David McQueen or John Stanford or mark armitage or Donny from "Standing for truth" channel or mart from standing for truth channel or Robert sungenis etc
@@moneyheist_-there is no such thing as a strong representative of young earth creationism cuz it’s utter nonsense. Open a book other than a holy book
Mr Dawkins, I really feel for you. Her smile is enough to put me over the edge. Thank you for your hard work.
“I confess to be frustrated” he is such a class act. Amazing levels of patience.
This is what happens when scepticism isn't backed up by a healthy amount of rationality. There is a limit to what you can question and it's when a fact is built upon observation and a shitload of experimental evidence. This needs to be taught along with scepticism and questioning. Knowing it's limits!
Awkward standing up is the cherry on top.
Yes, really discourteous.
Yes. Why can't you find a spot to sit down... perhaps offer your guest a glass of water? Ridiculous, petty, passive aggressive crap, right from the outset.
That was her first aggressive, insulting move of many. The disrespect is embarrassing to witness. I'm sure she read a book of tactics to throw off one's debate opponent and thought she was very clever, like Michael Scott in that episode of The Office.
With the camera man constantly shifting 3 ft away from them😂
Always wondered whose family started the kool aid factory
I always loved her condescending vocal tone and the way she said 'creatOR'
Yeah she should become a content creatOR
😂
Funny thing is, as i read this comment, she says ""CreatOOR""
she has the most unintelligent smirk I've seen on any human or non-human ape. She gives me the same uncanny-valley feeling of a dumb doll robot with human features.
When she said that at least three blood vessels burst in my brain.
This would be infinitely better if there were subtitles of Professor Dawkins' unfiltered inner dialogue while she spoke. 😅
Hilarious!
I think it’s just be nonstop “wow she is so dumb what is this nonsense she’s spewing”
lol🤣🤣🤣
Her primary argument seems to be her view that belief in evolution results in bad things for society and that a Christian belief makes society warm and fuzzy. Putting aside the veracity of that view, the fact that one belief is more comforting than another is not, of course, a valid reason for believing one thing or another.
As a ‘non science’ background person and former worshipper I can honestly say that these religious based people are so invested in their beliefs that they become almost aggressive and insulting in the name of their god of which I now realize that there is definitively no evidence. It is almost like they are ‘projecting’. I think Richard is right on the mark where he hints at that they have a fear of being overwhelmingly discredited which prompts an emotional reaction. He is amazingly articulate and patient with this woman, much respect to him.
I became uncomfortable listening to her. So many logical errors and lack of critical thinking. The most frequent technique used was to change the subject when faced with a good point or challenge. The most annoying was to claim she was being disrespected when she was simply effectively challenged.
Spot on, she gishgalloped and deflected every question and point Dawkins made, then had the nerve to say he wasn't answering her question, after telling her it was an irrelevant question and why.
She falsely tied to claim 'hostility and ad hominem' whenever Dawkins made a good point she couldn't respond to in a stunning display of pearl clutching.
She obviously has no grasp of epistemology, empiricsm, evidence, or science for that matter.
@@joshuaf.3723I think there might be a few other things that wendy doesn't have a grasp of
I remember this interview... It's equally as frustrating as the first time I saw it. I envy Richard's patience, I would've blown a fuse within the first 5 minutes. How can you speak with somebody about evolution when they haven't the faintest idea what evolution even is?
You're a better person than me because I lost interest within 3 minutes and 45 seconds.
I'm starting to understand why a lot of fundamentalists don't want women to be pastors. 😂😂😂
even Darwin himself said that there are no intermediate fossils to back up the theory of evolution. that means you have two foundationless-theoryists debating...once you discover empirical truth, you can laugh at all of the puppets in the puppet show.
Every time he asked her a question she smiled like The Joker and dodged the actual question.
I would love to see which parts of her brain light up under an MRI as she's 'experiencing' things.
I love when a theist is worried about evidence and close mindedness
i love when an atheist is worried abot being defeated ..which is like almost every time they open their mouth
@@ralphashmore5694 I love how you think it's all about intellectual competition instead of truth seeking. But if it is, intellectual competition that is, then yeah. Logic and reason triumph believes and dogma anytime.
well at times intellectual competition overlaps with truth seeking indirectly
You ought to apply the scientific method to yourself.
You ought to apply the scientific method to yourself.
I watched this interview years ago and It is still hurting my brain as it did then.
its becuase ur brain is not connected to ur heart :P
@@be2the4out obviously. Figuratively, I don't think anyone's is.
The point in all this is, rejection of science by creationists like that woman in the video, cannot be useful for humanity.
you seem to miss the difference between science and proof ;)@@ymusoke
Kudos to you Mr Dawkins for keeping this talk up for almost 1h. I couldn’t even bear watching it to the end.
Yup, with you there! I had to break this into more digestible chunks 😉
She is calling him frustrated, close minded, agressive, dumb when in reality she was only describing herself without realizing. That is the power of cult. Looks like mother nature didn't spread intelligence equally which explains why there are so many creationists in this world. 😂
On one side we see honest, conscious educated scientist and on the other uneducated, close minded, individual brainwashed by a religious cult.
This lady's reasoning is like a fly trapped inside your car or your room... you open a window and try to guide it, yet it keeps banging its head pointlessly against the glass! Prof. Dawkins has my utmost respect for his infinite patience.
old mans shit
It’s infuriating everytime she laughs at him to cope with not being able to answer his questions after preaching about respecting one another.
or, *pretends to* laugh, more accurately
She denied multiple times having an agenda and then explained she had exactly the agenda he was describing.
Not sure why people react so violently to the “accusation” they they have an agenda. If you didn’t have an agenda/motive to do or say something, you wouldn’t.
She wiped the floor with Dawkins. I'm embarrassed for him.
and she might wipe the floor with you too
Yes she did!
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Thank you Mr. Dawkins for fighting the good fight against the absolute morons we have to live alongside.
Dr. Dawkins
@@danielkanewske8473 He's also a mister lmao its not wrong to call him mr
@@smilloww2095, according to the rules of etiquette, one's higher title should be preferred.
@@SpiritualPsychotherapyServices I understand that but there's nothing wrong with not using the highest form of etiquette in a youtube comment. He couldve called him Richard as well
@@smilloww2095, your “logic” is UNDERWHELMING, Sir. 🙄
Incidentally, it’s called “Spell-Check”. ✅
Look into it, SILLY Sinful Slave. 👨🏻🎓
When very young children are repeatedly taught things.. regardless of truth or scientific evidence, eventually they believe it like the beating of their own hearts. Even if the information was not true from the very start. The success of religions is based upon this fact. If the 'trainers' waited until the the child became 18 years old.. do you think the adult child would believe it? Most likely not.
I watch this every few years...
I'm 4 minutes in and ... how has he not just walked out.
Is she real ? lol
Every time she says, "Cree-ay-TOUR," I cringe. Lol
Every time she smiles I get chills. She’s f-ink scary.
The smile of insanity. She drops the same phrases like an robot.
Yep...
Psycho smile
Unreal and a little creepy the way she handled this talk That people think that science is not honest and doesn’t take personal sides is is stupid
As my mother said she is the type of person that always smiles but never look happy.
@@kristiansandsmark2048 Your mother is wise.
Her laughing is showing her denial and refusal to learn.
It's got nothing to do whether being a believer or not. It's simply a lack of debating skills.
This might be the video that single handedly started the new atheist movement
This was hard to watch without feeling irritated. Well handled Richard, you’re a better man than the majority of us (who would have lost our rag).
Why evolutionist go to the weakest representative of the young Earth Creation moment? even I could do better making a stronger case.
@@moneyheist_-Like what? 🧐
@@runewolf77 my friend, you haven't heard your views challenged by well informed people. this woman isn't the head of the young Earth Creation moment. He could have picked any young Earth Creationist (biologist or genetist, geologist, physicist or Paleontologist etc) like James tour or David McQueen or John Stanford or mark armitage or Donny from "Standing for truth" channel or mart from standing for truth channel or Robert sungenis etc
@@moneyheist_- who would u recommend? 🧐
@@runewolf77 James tour
"Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool" - Mark Twain
Man. Man man Just wow
You came from a rock good job man.
And you believed this con man writer!
@@Fastbenefits-y4p I believe common sense
If religion is a human invention, why does it prohibit the pleasures of life? That was stupid to say.
THANK GOD religions didn't cause atrocities, just respecting the human being. I hope those who lost their lives know and appreciate it. She makes a difference between the dominations?? Yeah sure. It TOTALLY makes a different in her the validity of her book.
I really commend mr. Dawkins for his patience! It really is frustrating to talk with someone who rejects all the evidence and says "show me evidence"
You make evidence sound so relative
It does not matter how much evidence is presented to someone like Wendy.
They are too invested in their delusion with minds trained in self-deception, logical fallacy, and cognitive dissonance to ever be persuaded by such paltry things like logic, facts, and evidence.
That sounds like the cult of the Manchurian cantaloupe trump 🤣
It's almost like watching Cunk on Earth!
I want more of her. It's so satisfying to hear her argument with that amazing laughter on her own stupidity! I want to invite her to a party full of biologists. Argue evolution vs creationism. Support and encourage her until we hear all of Wendy Wright!
Spot on LOL 😆 😅
She’d implode I reckon if she went to that party
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😂😂😂
Was Darwin duck created by God or Walt Disney?
Not to offer someone a seat or a drink is so describing. I'm only 13 minutes in, and I'm already out of patience... However, seeing as Richard had to endure making this "interview" - so will I. Out of admiration and respect for Richard. ❤
I know! Richard asked “Where shall we go?” And she said how about we take three steps over here? It immediately felt like she didn’t want this conversation to go on very long.
Beacause he didnt agree that human beings should be treated with dignity and respect so she obliged and he got no seat
When I was a fundamentalist Christian, I would ignore arguments and debates. The only way to reach me was through short quips and comical cartoons about how absurd individual bible stories are. Even still, it took years of that and years away from the church for me to stop plugging my ears and ignoring reality. I doubt an event like this reaches anyone, but I hope it does.
I hope you're leading a happier life now. Take care.
The Catholic Church accepts evolution as valid and in accordance with beliefs. Only some fundamentalist sects are talking about creationism.
A good Christian doesn’t base his beliefs on what individuals or churches but is guided by God through His word. God’s word doesn’t change.
@@Pass-dj9xt Many self proclaimed good Christians would disagree with you on what to base beliefs on, and every religious group that ever existed would disagree with you on which word is actually God's.
@@Pass-dj9xt The only problem is who gave them the "word of God"
“Show me the evidence of evolution” she says but presents none for creationism.
All the harm done by the philosophy of Darwinism yet overlooks all wars based on religion.
But the rhetoric they use is to admit they have no evidence and only faith. Then they equal science with faith and thus claim that both should receive the same status.
Not to mention the murderers I mean people of God during the crusades
@@kylebeasye the Spanish were quite cruel to the Christians I agree.
@@kylebeasye the Spanish were quite cruel to the Christians I agree.
@@S.k.yMusic the Christians were the ones murdering during the Spanish Inquisition. The facts of reality
Why is it that creationists demand proof and evidence of evolution, and then dismiss it? Why is that same standard not applied to their own teachings?
They definitely don't demand evidence for their beliefs. That's why they need faith
There isn't anything we can do to educate people like this, she has her 2,000 year old book that was written and edited by a group of men and that is all she'll accept.
And that Book contains concurring reports by several eye-witnesses and men across the ages, and one can travels to actual sites on earth where physical evidence substantiates the reports. Mr, Dawkins believes in a book that is only about 130 years old, and was the writer's proposed Theory - one man, with no evidence, anywhere.
@@wiska5114 humans wrote your book and there is no evidence whatsoever to back up their claims, all experts can agree on is they are based on myths and a lot of interpretation of mythology.
She's right evolution cannot be demonstrated in a lab.
@@democraticman3602Once archeologist said there were no such people as the Hittites the Bible said they existed. Guess what? The found the civilization of the Hittites showing that Bible is true.
Secular history books back up the claims in “this Book” (and most part of this book is older than 2000 years) I think your claims of “all experts” and “no evidence” are extreme.
“I’m qualified to talk about evolution because I visited a museum.”
I have gone to concerts so I must be a musician. Call mom I'm about to get famous!!
This clip beyond a doubt proves we're an evolving species.
Evolving or devolving?
evolution could do a better job than Wendy. Clearly there are some things about natural selection we need still to research.
@@davidgommeren7283Evolving. One already had, the other probably never will.
Sadly, we are no longer evolving. Evolution is a biological response to environmental conditions. We develop technology to deal with the environment, so we no longer do it biologically.
Thank you Richard for exposing this particular mindset. It's another great example of belief getting in the way of reason.
Reason is also a belief because if you want to take reason to it's limits you'll find that there is no matter only waves that behave like particles in the presence of an observer.
So the only logical reason is that the observer is actually God and each observer is actually creating the matter that they see by the very act of looking
@@groggs321 Sorry, not interested in your post-modern word salad. I suggest you read your text before you press reply.
@padraigadhastair4783 he isn't wrong, we cannot ground logic. Saying 1+1=2 is just as logical of saying God is real. You can't prove either.
@@KasuraKumagi24 You're both wrong. Reason is a method that works and can be proven logically. Theism is a belief without proof. You are expounding metaphysical gibberish. Again read your text before you press reply.
Are you freaking kidding me? Belief getting in the way of reason? You believe billions of years ago, lightning struck some water and some chemicals formed into the most complex digital code in the world that has the blueprints to build life, with workers that all work together to copy the code, workers who check for mistakes, machines that read the code and build as the code instructs, and machines that fold the structures into the correct shape. An electric motor with a rotor and stator that produces the energy for the cell. Bacterium flagellum have tails that propel them through liquid. They have an electric motor with a rotor and stator, 100,000 rpms and water cooled, a drive shaft, universal joint, propeller, bushings and rings, a clutch and braking system. And it's impossible for to have slowly evolved its parts one at a time, because it's irreducibly complex, and it needs all the parts there at the same time for it to work. Natural Selection only preserves things that have an immediate survival advantage. If you think all that formed one part at the time, and it not working until all the parts were finished, and that no intelligence was involved, you are the one letting beliefs get in the way of reason
She's absolutely insane. Incredible
The true hero here is the camera-man
Yeah, he lost a couple of calories ... 😂
a simple "pan over to the person talking" simply would NOT have been enough
I truly wonder how absolutely distracting it must have been for these two to have this guy madly dashing around lol
The true evil idiot here is the hitch's (with a b) fake smile and smug ignorance.
@@jdarminworst cameraman ever. If u dont have two cameras just put down your fucking phone or rent another , this is not a videogame this is an interview. He is sprinting around them . What the fuck
@@poti732 lol yeah haha you can tell he's literally dashing from spot to spot.. it's crazy
This woman is ridiculously terrifying. She is the one who is closed minded and she has mastered the art of smiling while being the epitome of evil.
SHE SCARES ME !!REALLY IF I HAD TO STAY WITH HER FOR A DAY AND STAY OVER NIGHT I WOULD BE TERRIFIED OF WAKING UP AND SHE'S STANDING OVER ME WITH A CORK SCREW LOL
🎯 😂 🎯 😃 🎯 😅
At least Wendy never used the government to force her views on all of us like Madalyn Murray O'Hair did .
Madalyn was so evil , and she tried to tell us whwt to do and how to live .
Madalyn will not tell our son he cannot pray in school , and that he cannot sing Christmas carols in school !
One who believes human beings are cousins of chimpanzees is a cousin chimpanzees. Scientists who are atheistic are not enlightened yet. Why there are living creatures rather than none beyond Earth. It is because of some organic dust blown from the other part of the universe; come on, don't be ridiculous. It is the most evil idea that one denies his creator.
She is so adamant.
Amazing work Richard, thank you. You are a wise and patient person to have made it through such a 'taxing' conversation 😊. Well done! Respect.
This was like listening to the ramblings of a sovereign citizen at a traffic stop, where the cop (played by Dawkins) endures countless assertions that "we aren't driving, we're traveling, I'm not engaged in commerce, I don't need a license to travel" being uttered by the person behind the wheel. If you haven't watched those police encounters, check them out, they're hilarious.
"Where is the evidence?" "It's in the DNA, it's in the geographical distribution of species, it's..."(woman interrupting:) "But where is the actual evidence?"
I would probably have walked away at that point. Great admiriation for the patience of Richard Dawkins. Do we need to have patience with a blatant desire to NOT listen to reasonable arguments? I don't think so. She behaves like a three year old, it's sad to see.