If you're a service tech (plumber, hvac, electrician, etc) working in a small place or working on a piece of equipment, 700 lumens is MORE than adequate. When you're a service tech all you want is good light in a small package that won't die on you when you're in a crawl space or force you to go back to the van to get something else. This light is perfect for that and I think that was their intent.
I use my M12 rover light everyday and love it. I’m an electrician. Working above drop ceilings. Lighting up small rooms. Lighting up the general area where I’m working. Or when I’m on a scissor lift. It works all day and then some. The run time and lumens is great. Magnetically sticks to any steel around. And fits in my tool bag perfectly. Well worth every penny.
@@curbysquad agreed. Maybe 3 modes, like add an extra maybe 1400 lumesn mode that lasts 4 hours on top of what’s on the product, but what’s offered isn’t terrible
For auto mecanic its perfect most light are in the 400 lumen so 700 lumen is great even the 250 lumen mode is enough and you can leave it on all work day One good light is the astro its really slim and fully adjustable brightness but the battery life suck and you can't swap them so it useless is less than 4 hours at max 410 lumen
No magic number for lumens is required by task but if you are wanting a light that will provide light for extended periods of time, put away your pocket flashlight and hang the Rover with an XC battery. You're way off on this rant.
You're spot on here. There is such thing as too much light and Milwaukee has a winner here. I will use the hell out of this under the dash of a car or under a sink where too much light will just make glare unbearable, and a smaller/brighter flashlight that gets hot and chews through batteries is impractical for extended periods of work. Vince even said in this very video that trying to be good at too many things means you wont be very good at one. This light is very good at it's intended design purpose, and other lights are very good for their intended design purpose.
@Sid The sloth yup I agree. I have tons of Dewalt but also a bunch of Milwaukee. Love the M12 Milwaukee stuff but like the Dewalt 20v over all of milwaukees 18v stuff. I have plenty of HF as well wrenches and what not
Yo Vin. 1100 lumens is to bright in an engine compartment. It blinds you bouncing off bare metal or your tools. This light rocks for automotive and heavy equipment repair. Specialized light.
. Also it was designed for automotive use. It’s will get turn on at the beginning of the day and won’t get shut off until the end of the day. I have the 1100 lumen light and it’s nice but won’t last all day without a battery swap or charge.
@@legros731 Of course it isn't useful for job site lighting. Why are people trying to compare this to an M18 Rocket light? It is designed for small spaces, not to light up your entire job site. That is like asking why Milwaukee makes an M12 compact cut off tool when tools like a 10" table saw or a 12" dual bevel sliding compound miter saw will have a much better cutting capacity. You're missing the entire purpose of the tool.
@@jossegewow how did a write this lol Don't know what a was thinking A love this light i use it everyday at work I am a mechanic no need to light big area
Ok so I'm not a pro mechanic but I work on enough of my own stuff and other peoples stuff that laymen call me a mechanic. I have 2 of these lights. Stick these suckers on a hood at night and its great. Just don't push them past a 3.0ah slim battery. Magnet feels just a little weak to me with the bigger stuff attached. Ill either pick up another or see what comes out next when I can see the new milwaukee auto light with the arm in the wild.
Alright Vince, I can personally say I am pumped about this light. Most of your expertise is in the construction field, NOT so much the car accessory field. I install remote starts all day through winter. I currently use the 550 lumen 4V Rover, but battery changing is a pain. The higher lumen lights are too big for under a dash and you need a light this size to coordinate placement while working. Flashlights are too narrow a field for use and can't be set down. I think your opinion is narrowed to your field. Keep it up though, love how critical you are!
My pocket light has 1200 lumen peak and honestly magnetizing it to something and turning it on that bright is almost too much. I personally think 700 is the sweet spot for eye strain, run time, heat, and visibility
@@brandonle4930 the run time is weird because it automatically attenuated down after 5 minutes, i was mentioning an olight warrior mini in this comment if you care to look it up
@@brandonle4930 yeah the light I carry is really small, I use it in a pinch mostly. When I’m gonna need it for a long time in one spot I have an M12 rocket light, and the larger m12 rover. Highly recommend both
1200 out of a little pocket light sounds awesome but watching Torque Test Channel's flashlight light output tests have got me questioning every manufacturer lumen and runtime claim lol shits downright sad at times.
love this light , use it for everything I seem to grab it for about everything I do lately. home inspections, BBQing, walking the property , working on car. LOVE IT !!
I have been waiting for this light. I am happy with what I see so far, can’t wait to get my hands on it. I am a field service tech and do a lot of work with the power off so I need a lite like this so when I am testing inside a cabinet I can see what I am doing. I don’t want to hold a flashlight the whole time I want something I can magnet to the box and go to work and not have to worry about the battery for the time I am working. Also I am buying a light not a cell changer so the 2.1 usb is just a bonus. I think I will be happy with it when I can finally get one.
Something I forgot. I consider this a task light so for me working in a large disconnect or a transformer 700 lumens is perfect or say for a plumber under a sink in a cabinet it’s plenty. If I need light for the job I will grab one of my other 5 large Milwaukee lights to light up the work area
It's a real awesome light. Perfect balance of lumens, run time, convenience. And the design is awesome when you are in a confined space and you need to leave it on the ground, you pivot it upwards. Super nice light. Depends if it's the right light for you that is all! Try lighting up your work area with your flashlight and work with both hands.
Thats true if you are an inspector less than 2 hours runtime is fine because is periodically when u using it, but in the field the battery accomplish the 8 hrs of work
I work as an industrial electrician and I'd rather have a light that ran all day than one that burned ultra bright. If I need mega, mega bright light on one spot I'll just get my headtorch. I can't use a flashlight while I work because I need both hands and I need the light where my hands are, not shining on the back of my head. I dont want to have to run through batteries all day. I really want them to update the M18 rover with newer LED's so I can buy it. I'm hoping that's what is next on their list. Being able to tell the difference between brown, black and blue is important to me, mainly so I dont blow up panels. The older guys on site genuinely struggle if they have a bad colour light as their eyes are past their prime.
As an HVAC service tech i really love this light, i can easily hang it on ductwork and point it into air handlers in customers dark dank basements, the swivel is great
yes..it has USB charging but its not designed to be the primary charger for a phone....its just to get you some battery life if you dont have your primary charger with you...its a convenience feature....700 lumens is plenty for a work light...i use the 445 lumen.rover pocket light every day at work and its more than enough...more lumens = higher price and more battery drain
@@reddbeard2030 hey when you dont care about anything but making the most $, this is what happens. Sadly capitalism has its downfalls as well as its victories. if china didnt exist, it would have a lot less downfalls as nobody would be dumb enough to work for such little money. Cheap products wouldn't exist.
Yes, that is a very good idea. Charge your phone while charging your batteries. Better yet, the radios that can run on batteries and have a place for a phone/media player should all have usb ports that run off the battery for charging the device that you are using to listen to. Does this not make sense??. The few that do, only have it run on ac power and not battery. ???? I have the compact m12 radio and modded it and added usb ports in it for my media player etc. That is even more absurd that they don't.
I used it couple of times working on car engine, so I stick it to the hood and it's light's up the whole engine area. I love this light using wery often.
Ive got one, its awesome. Only thing missing was a hanger/bracket. I made one, it sticks to the magnet giving an infinite amount od adjustment angles. Its awesome!
Not sure I agree with you the rover is designed more for mechanics to light up a 5ft x 5ft area at at close range with out cords, hands free, and without taking up space like some of the bigger lights. Where as a flash light its designed not only to light up areas close to you but far away. Honestly you don't need 1100 lumens to light up an area close to you that is over kill. You need those lumens to light up far away. If you need that much light for close up get a big flood light. The flash light is not hands free so if you want to use both hands to work you have to lay it down or hold it in your mouth. I think it is more than adequate to do the job it was designed to do.
This has to be the first time I disagree. Im a plumber and this light is absolutely perfect. Yeah the flash light is bright but it wont give you all day run time and getting it in a spot to keep the area lit without falling is impossible. The fact you can orient this light any which way with all day run time on high and it doesnt bother the eyes for 59 bucks is incredible. Fits perfect in my pro pac also.
Well im a Dewalt platform guy that sometimes wonders about Milwaukee fans having more money then sense for what they pay for many Milwaukee products. But I gotta say I was thinking right away what many of the commentors were saying which was the light is designed as a task light with long run time in mind. And a quality long running task light is pretty valuable for those that gotta work in the dark often especially in tight spaces. A lot of times a headlamp or flashlight just doesnt cut it. I love my Dewalt DCL044 task light for its capability and compact portability and this Milwaukee light looks like its a step up for the Milwaukee guys. Oh and to you Milwaukee guys, notice I said sometimes up top 😉 because I do think that Milwaukee makes some quality stuff. I Can also see however that if Vince is always breaking out that new Milwaukee tower light hes probably like ehh when he thinks about a little task light like this one.
I got this light a month ago and I agree with Ken. This light works great for working on panels and close work in dark areas. It’s not bright on high and can run all day with 4.0. Haven’t used the charger and didn’t buy it for that so it’s just a bonus. I see what your saying about utilizing the faster charger but since it has Milwaukee’s name on it, it would cost more for that feature. Considering the price of there other M12 small light options I think it is a great light that fits in my bag and is not so bright it gives me a headache after a days work.
Yup what i came down to when i bought this today...i wanted a portable light that i can take to work but not so large like the 4000lumen flood light or the 1500lumen rover light that thats double the size and price and cant really put in my back pocket of my high viz vest...this fit the bill for sure
When working under the hood, working under the vehicle while it’s jacked up, even just changing the tire this light has been AMAZING. Don’t get me wrong bigger is always better, but 700 lumens lights up my entire front yard. I find I’m using it on low for most tasks when the light is 2-6 feet from my work. Personally, I love huge lumen ratings, but I refuse to use them if they kill my battery. For instance my Olight can do 1,600 lumens for two minutes. Then the battery steps down the run time significantly. I rarely ever use the highest mode because I’m not interested in draining the battery in a matter of minutes. 8 hours of runtime on 70” lumens is mind blowing to me. Lights up a medium sized room, and 8 hours is a long time. I couldn’t be happier with this light.
One thing is that little light at 1100 lumens will over heat while the m12 will not I know they can go higher but there are trade offs in time and how long the light will last
Actually no, that little light wont overheat. Light emitting diodes (led's)let off very little heat, which is why they don't need the big heat sinks of other type luminary globes
@@stevematthews4092 at 1100 lumen it need heat sink led are pretty hot and the driver as well And this light got what max 2 hour run time its useless for continuous use
We have livestock and I keep mine on my back door (steel door and it’s magnetic) and if I have to run outside in the middle of the night , I can grab it and go . I’m about to buy another one for my front door . I love this thing !
Its $59 bucks brand new. Too critical here. Sorry this is excellent. The m12 flood light is a 1000. The rocket light is 1400 lumens. The m12 stick light with the metal hook on, is 350-400 lumens. So this is perfect. Strong ass magnet, super small, lightweight. Its for being in tight spaces where u no longer will need a stupid headlamp all the time and blind everyone u speak to. TY for the review VCG, u were just giving your honest review. That's why I subscribe to this channel.
Did you actually use it in a dark room to do work to see if it was bright enough yet before making your comments? You did not do so in your video. You may have discovered the 700 is more than enough for the application and the complaint was not warranted. This is a smaller light and might be more practical in tighter or smaller places. You can always go to a bigger light or a m18 light in bigger spaces anyway. This is more compact to carry and store than the m12 or m18 rover. For a brighter light then you can use the bigger m12 rover, and the m18 rover which will have the advantage of more battery capacity. Plus there are the m12 and m18 lanterns as well.
Love your video Vince but let’s be real who needs 1000 lumins to look under your car or truck hood or under a kitchen sink? Ease up on Milwaukee there’s no sin in being practical
You should really look @ O-Lights headlights... so lightweight you'll hardly notice it's on your head and you can get 6 hours of runtime 500 lumens... plus you don't have to Lug anything around .. best light purchase I've ever made were my O-Light headlights no other brand comes close for a comparison... every Tradesman should own an O-Light headlight or two imo
@@BuffaloNickel9 I agree I have 4 olights(I'm a olight fan)that i use to inspect pipes and other items in dark places,but when it comes to doing repairs I want a light that is wider and more flexible
I bought this light at home depot last week on sale for 50 bucks. I like it! I used to make up 2x4 leds. I would use the magnet to hang on the wooden mending plates and tilted it down on the work area. Not too bad👍
My next light this is what I want, I honestly think the Milwaukee true view makes a huge difference with wire and fiber color order. So that 700 equals other led 800 of 900 because of that true view
Like others have said, it comes down to run time and the quality of the light output. This is a higher quality flood/area light vs your pocket light which is more of a point light. In regards to USB charging, I agree, USB C at full amps should be standard at this point. They should be looking to do what Skil has done and put a USB port on their batteries as well. Skil is somewhat lucky, they are (re)entering the cordless market with fresh standards and a clean drawing board, they don't have to drag legacy tools and batteries along like everyone else.
I'd hate there tp be a usb port on all their batteries. The batteries cost enough already and I'd worry about crap getting into the usb port and ruining the port and battery.
This is my most used Milwaukee light. Although I will light a large room with it when the power goes out, I mostly use it at work, which is outdoors. Maybe you could post a video of how you mount that flashlight on a tractor to light the engine, or accessories you have behind the tractor? It attaches well to anything, and provides a perfect amount of light for one or two people working alone. Anything bigger is burning power that you just don’t need
Honestly this would make for a good roadside tool it's compact enough for your car, it's bright enough to check your engine and underneath your car and it works with the M12 platform so if you only have 1 or 2 batteries you don't have to sweat.
I like the light. Good true view is a big deal. And 700 lumens true view is impressive. However, as a mobile mechanic, I wish they had including m12 battery charging capabilities. So that I could ditch the compact charger and just bring this unit along.
This light has its purpose and is well suited for its intended purpose. For soft area lighting, I hang it inside a translucent bucket. I don’t use the usb charging , but nice to have it in case. I also have spots and flash lights that I use for their intended purposes. 2 totally different lights. I don’t understand the apples to oranges comparison.
Like you need more than 700 lumens when you are working 2 or 3 ft away from it. It’s marketed as a hand held work light. That’s plenty bright. Not everything has to be 1000+ lumens
Brightness is one thing, light coverage is another. I have this rover light and a Milwaukee flashlight, 2 totally different ball games. I live in Oklahoma, we experience power outages whether it's from tornados, ice storms or wind, this rover light along with a few other Milwaukee M12 and M18 lights came in handy when we had a tornado do a lot of damage to homes and power lines surrounding me, this USB on the Rover light came in handy keeping our phones charged keeping in contact with family, that flashlight would've shown me where the toilet is but that's about it.
Personally, (even at just 500 lumens) I prefer the pivoting head flashlight. It's really bright, has a high and low flood mode and very bright spot mode, remembers what mode you left it on when turned off, and a magnet at the base. The pivoting head feels nice and the flashlight feels solid.
The advantage of the Milwaukee is when it dies, you can just swap a fully charged battery into it. You've got to wait for your little flashlight to charge before you can use it again. I don't think you're too critical though. They should've at least added a tiny Bluetooth speaker or something into this one; if they're gonna skimp on the lumens and no rapid charging, they need something else in it.
Seriously love this light. Someone yanked it from me on a job site and ended up buying an m18 rover. Wish I bought a second m12 rather than the heavier m18
The man always seems to me as if he works in a used car dealership in Jersey 😂 I love the light it’s phenomenal in confined spaces when size is an issue.
I agree with the masses, working on cars or close to you where the light can be shifted around to improve the angle is great and too much light would be excessive and throw off night vision. You could move a brighter light further away but then you would have to get up from your work to move it for angle adjustment or to move to another area of the project.
Regardless of the connector on the end of the cable, the USB type A port USB 2.0, has a max amp output of 2.4, rarely is there a usb type A 3.0 port, which can do up to 3amp, usually has a green or blue or purple colored port where the usb 2 is white on the inside. A usb type C port on both ends, can go up to 20v 5amp 100w, if both devices support it, that is why many laptops can now use USB to charge. The adapter cable Vince used will work, but only at the 2.4 amps, meaning it will charge very slowly, if the device supports fast/quick charging, it will not provide enough power for that and it will charge ‘slow mode’. Something like an iPad Pro, it will not charge at all, as the iPad needs more than 2.4 amp just to run, so it still uses some of the battery when it is plugged in.
I just received 2 of them and they are great Monday 1/11/2021 will be the first day on the job and with them I'll let you guy's know how they go but 700 lumens is crazy bright in a small 10x10x8 room they should work great
Flash light is a spot light, the rover is a flood light. If you're in the woods at night you want a spot light, when you're working on something you want a flood light, yes less lumens, but light is spread over a larger area.
You would think it would be twice as powerful as the pocket flashlight. Maybe they wanted to make the light a little more subtle because they figured it would be used in small tight spaces. Then again why not make it twice as bright and give it one more dimmer mode so you have that option. Not sure. That’s kind of a head scratcher.
This is a good example of a carpenter looking at a mechanics tool. Kind of like if someone handed me a router. This is a solid contender because I have so many m12 batteries. I also don’t know how useful a flashlight is on my belt. He mentioned our hard earned money, did he happen to mention a price for this thing?
Agreed.. I collect O- light flashlights/ headlights..to me they're the most well-made out there with the magnetic charging Etc and have earned their cult-like following... I have some flashlights that are big and thick 2500 lumens and have Olight Warriors & Warrior X that are 1500 lumens and will absolutely put the higher 250p lumen to shame in every aspect flood throw brightness Etc... Perhaps Candela is a better measurement but for right now everyone uses lumens.. tell me if you agree, but you really don't know how bright or how much you will like a light into you get it in your hands despite what the Lumen output says.. for example if I want a really bright light, I can end up with a 1500 or 1800 Lumen instead of 2500 lumen because it was brighter & provided the right amount of throw, flood, etcetera..
$50 on sale at Home Depot was a steal. Use 6 amp Whitley generic 6 A battery’s 2 for $35 and when we forget it at the job site we don’t cry. Now ,there up to $70 for tool and $70 for 6 amp Milwaukee battery $140 too expensive. $50 was a great price point for this light. We have 66 of these and there FANTASTIC! (But Milwaukee knows you’re gonna leave them in the rafters and up on a duck work )easy to carry in and could care less about the charge feature rather lower the price. Some guys charge a speaker off it and phone off the other lights. The magnet is 85% spot on, great for replacing electrical panels and repairs for furnaces. 700 luminaries is great for the runtime is what is key and the purpose. Never want to hold a flashlight again. Let’s the see if it last five years on a service truck. These are definitely or go to lights when we walk into a dark building or home and we can see you so we don’t trip and fall better than a flashlight.
I think raw output in lumens isn't as useful in a light that is supposed to illuminate a work area (like under a car for example) that is in close proximity, too much light just washes things out. I agree that they could have upgraded the usb port to provide more amperage.
Love the energy and humor. However, I think you missed the point. Its not a pin light! Its a flood light. Great for use when working is tight crawl spaces or attics. Keep the reviews coming. Marry Christmas! Cheers
Youre right vince. It falls behind the avg when it comes to lighting output. But they're a tool specialist not lighting specialists.. just another offering for the brand addicts
Nope it a more mecanic oriented light like a lot of m12 products Most mecanic ligth are in the 400 lumen and don't even last 4 hours and you can't change the battery so you need 2 to go all day at work But it on the lift post for under light or under the hood
I think your a bit rough on it.. I’m an auto tech and think it will come in very handy all lights have a use i have allot of different lights for different situations
It’s a work light, not a flashlight.... I would rather have the rover working under a sink, working on a car, lighting up a room, etc. Two different tasks. Looks like an awesome light to me. 700 lumens for that run time seems like a win to me.
True the light is built in such a way that the expectation that it should be brighter is reasonable. The size of the light dictates where and how the light will be used. Do you really want 1000 or more lumens inside a cabinet or under a dash? The unit is plenty strong for how I intend to use it. Do I think that milwaukee released it, the way it is leaving room for improvements and a gen 2 ? Absolutely.
Could you guys maybe do a bit on storage solutions? Specifically trailer storage solutions?? I’m sure y’all have plenty of video ideas but this one would help a new trailer owner out. Any of my VCG family got setups that you love? Hit me up guys!
I feel like they were going for a WORK LIGHT. Like one that can run at max output for a full work shift. If they went to 1000 or 1100 lumens but sacrificed runtime. Then to get through the day you'd need a 6.0 or a few 4.0 ah. I have a pocket light that's 2800lumens but it only runs about 20 minutes at that output. Not very practical but it is nice having the output at times I suppose.
@@idude1471 There is Type A (normal usb) and type C (the new reversible, kinda lightning shaped). Those are the only two ports that supply power. Then there is all the ports that consume the power, USB-C, micro USB, mini USB (super old), then the random ports for TV's, monitors, consoles and such. But in terms of power supply there is only A and C.
Don’t see much for the usb part and 700 is plenty if your working on electrical panels and other security panels. 1100 would be way to bright I’m happy with the magnet pivot and 700
I have the usb rover and it only has 445 lumens. This M12 would be a big improvement. I already have a M12&M18 power source, so I don't need the usb charger
Wish it had some fold out hooks for hanging it. Also one of those suction things(smaller version) like the ones use for carrying glass windows would be nice to have on the back with those magnets
Bad rant. I think they got it right. You don't need over 1K lumens for task lighting. Not giving more light than needed and more battery life is what they were likely thinking. As soon as I see one on sale, I'll have it.
Spot on Vince. Purchsedr M18 light a few years ago. Now they finally, came out with what I wanted. Dual power supply support. Will not make the jump till price comes down.
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If you're a service tech (plumber, hvac, electrician, etc) working in a small place or working on a piece of equipment, 700 lumens is MORE than adequate. When you're a service tech all you want is good light in a small package that won't die on you when you're in a crawl space or force you to go back to the van to get something else. This light is perfect for that and I think that was their intent.
I use my M12 rover light everyday and love it. I’m an electrician. Working above drop ceilings. Lighting up small rooms. Lighting up the general area where I’m working. Or when I’m on a scissor lift. It works all day and then some. The run time and lumens is great. Magnetically sticks to any steel around. And fits in my tool bag perfectly. Well worth every penny.
Yes it clearly don't the the use for this light it blinded by the lumen number lol
I love mine as you I’m an electrician and works great for me 👍🏽
Its only 700 lumens, but its 700 lumens for 8 HOURS! Thats what they were thinking.
This is the correct answer
I would have been happier with a possible 6hrs at 1000 lumens
@@curbysquad agreed. Maybe 3 modes, like add an extra maybe 1400 lumesn mode that lasts 4 hours on top of what’s on the product, but what’s offered isn’t terrible
For auto mecanic its perfect most light are in the 400 lumen so 700 lumen is great even the 250 lumen mode is enough and you can leave it on all work day
One good light is the astro its really slim and fully adjustable brightness but the battery life suck and you can't swap them so it useless is less than 4 hours at max 410 lumen
8 hours is not that long for a tiny work light though... if it was 1,500-2,000 lumens and 8 hours sure thats impressive
No magic number for lumens is required by task but if you are wanting a light that will provide light for extended periods of time, put away your pocket flashlight and hang the Rover with an XC battery. You're way off on this rant.
soooo many Milwaukee fanboys in this comment section its hilarious 😂 your biased opinions mean nothing guys when will you realize that?
You're spot on here. There is such thing as too much light and Milwaukee has a winner here. I will use the hell out of this under the dash of a car or under a sink where too much light will just make glare unbearable, and a smaller/brighter flashlight that gets hot and chews through batteries is impractical for extended periods of work. Vince even said in this very video that trying to be good at too many things means you wont be very good at one. This light is very good at it's intended design purpose, and other lights are very good for their intended design purpose.
“Rant…” well put. Dudes freaking annoying asf and uninformative.
@Sid The sloth Snapon fanboys like mr suburu are theeee worst. Snapon is an American embarrassment
@Sid The sloth yup I agree. I have tons of Dewalt but also a bunch of Milwaukee. Love the M12 Milwaukee stuff but like the Dewalt 20v over all of milwaukees 18v stuff. I have plenty of HF as well wrenches and what not
Yo Vin. 1100 lumens is to bright in an engine compartment. It blinds you bouncing off bare metal or your tools. This light rocks for automotive and heavy equipment repair. Specialized light.
. Also it was designed for automotive use. It’s will get turn on at the beginning of the day and won’t get shut off until the end of the day. I have the 1100 lumen light and it’s nice but won’t last all day without a battery swap or charge.
@@legros731 Of course it isn't useful for job site lighting. Why are people trying to compare this to an M18 Rocket light? It is designed for small spaces, not to light up your entire job site. That is like asking why Milwaukee makes an M12 compact cut off tool when tools like a 10" table saw or a 12" dual bevel sliding compound miter saw will have a much better cutting capacity. You're missing the entire purpose of the tool.
@@jossegewow how did a write this lol
Don't know what a was thinking
A love this light i use it everyday at work
I am a mechanic no need to light big area
I just picked one up at home depot with the same thought process and agree with you fully brother
Ok so I'm not a pro mechanic but I work on enough of my own stuff and other peoples stuff that laymen call me a mechanic. I have 2 of these lights. Stick these suckers on a hood at night and its great. Just don't push them past a 3.0ah slim battery. Magnet feels just a little weak to me with the bigger stuff attached. Ill either pick up another or see what comes out next when I can see the new milwaukee auto light with the arm in the wild.
Alright Vince, I can personally say I am pumped about this light. Most of your expertise is in the construction field, NOT so much the car accessory field. I install remote starts all day through winter. I currently use the 550 lumen 4V Rover, but battery changing is a pain. The higher lumen lights are too big for under a dash and you need a light this size to coordinate placement while working. Flashlights are too narrow a field for use and can't be set down. I think your opinion is narrowed to your field. Keep it up though, love how critical you are!
My pocket light has 1200 lumen peak and honestly magnetizing it to something and turning it on that bright is almost too much. I personally think 700 is the sweet spot for eye strain, run time, heat, and visibility
How long does your 1200 lumen battery last? 1.5 hours?
@@brandonle4930 the run time is weird because it automatically attenuated down after 5 minutes, i was mentioning an olight warrior mini in this comment if you care to look it up
I care more about the runtime since I needed a work light that can last me over 4 hours
@@brandonle4930 yeah the light I carry is really small, I use it in a pinch mostly. When I’m gonna need it for a long time in one spot I have an M12 rocket light, and the larger m12 rover. Highly recommend both
1200 out of a little pocket light sounds awesome but watching Torque Test Channel's flashlight light output tests have got me questioning every manufacturer lumen and runtime claim lol shits downright sad at times.
love this light , use it for everything I seem to grab it for about everything I do lately. home inspections, BBQing, walking the property , working on car. LOVE IT !!
I have been waiting for this light. I am happy with what I see so far, can’t wait to get my hands on it. I am a field service tech and do a lot of work with the power off so I need a lite like this so when I am testing inside a cabinet I can see what I am doing. I don’t want to hold a flashlight the whole time I want something I can magnet to the box and go to work and not have to worry about the battery for the time I am working. Also I am buying a light not a cell changer so the 2.1 usb is just a bonus. I think I will be happy with it when I can finally get one.
Something I forgot. I consider this a task light so for me working in a large disconnect or a transformer 700 lumens is perfect or say for a plumber under a sink in a cabinet it’s plenty. If I need light for the job I will grab one of my other 5 large Milwaukee lights to light up the work area
It's a real awesome light. Perfect balance of lumens, run time, convenience. And the design is awesome when you are in a confined space and you need to leave it on the ground, you pivot it upwards. Super nice light. Depends if it's the right light for you that is all! Try lighting up your work area with your flashlight and work with both hands.
The 1100 lumen flashlight will only run for 1.75 hours. The rover light is much better for a 8 hour shift day. Or even 24 hours on low!
Exactly. That’s the whole point. You’re flashlight is not enough for task lighting, it’s for spotlighting and highlighting areas for a short time.
This look great for mecanic stick it under hood or on the lift post and boom instant light and it can be aimed
And you can charge your usb light right on the rover. Pretty handy
Thats true if you are an inspector less than 2 hours runtime is fine because is periodically when u using it, but in the field the battery accomplish the 8 hrs of work
I work as an industrial electrician and I'd rather have a light that ran all day than one that burned ultra bright. If I need mega, mega bright light on one spot I'll just get my headtorch. I can't use a flashlight while I work because I need both hands and I need the light where my hands are, not shining on the back of my head. I dont want to have to run through batteries all day. I really want them to update the M18 rover with newer LED's so I can buy it. I'm hoping that's what is next on their list. Being able to tell the difference between brown, black and blue is important to me, mainly so I dont blow up panels. The older guys on site genuinely struggle if they have a bad colour light as their eyes are past their prime.
As an HVAC service tech i really love this light, i can easily hang it on ductwork and point it into air handlers in customers dark dank basements, the swivel is great
yes..it has USB charging but its not designed to be the primary charger for a phone....its just to get you some battery life if you dont have your primary charger with you...its a convenience feature....700 lumens is plenty for a work light...i use the 445 lumen.rover pocket light every day at work and its more than enough...more lumens = higher price and more battery drain
Spend more time in crawlspaces bro, I just ordered one of these and 8 hrs is awesome.
Hello crawlspace brother. Lol
Yes, I am getting in a crawlspace soon again. I am getting mine today from CPO outlets 12/23.
I think it's a great light for working on cars. Definitely buying
I dont know why there isn't a USB port on the Standard M18/M12 chargers.
Oh Well
GO Vince!
bc Milwaukee saves $0.47 per unit by not adding it duh!!!!
@@scottcoleman7304 Seems really productive.
Duh!
@@reddbeard2030 hey when you dont care about anything but making the most $, this is what happens. Sadly capitalism has its downfalls as well as its victories. if china didnt exist, it would have a lot less downfalls as nobody would be dumb enough to work for such little money. Cheap products wouldn't exist.
Yes, that is a very good idea. Charge your phone while charging your batteries. Better yet, the radios that can run on batteries and have a place for a phone/media player should all have usb ports that run off the battery for charging the device that you are using to listen to. Does this not make sense??. The few that do, only have it run on ac power and not battery. ???? I have the compact m12 radio and modded it and added usb ports in it for my media player etc. That is even more absurd that they don't.
@@ariip Makes plenty sense/ cents to me.
I'm with you.
Ive had two for 3 years. Its my favorite all around light ever. Mechanic work,camping, etc. Its amazing
I used it couple of times working on car engine, so I stick it to the hood and it's light's up the whole engine area. I love this light using wery often.
Ive got one, its awesome. Only thing missing was a hanger/bracket. I made one, it sticks to the magnet giving an infinite amount od adjustment angles. Its awesome!
I’m team Milwaukee 💯 all the way and completely agree on your criticism
This light is awesome for automotive repairs especially suspension and under body repairs / mods. Construction guys i cant speak for.
Not sure I agree with you the rover is designed more for mechanics to light up a 5ft x 5ft area at at close range with out cords, hands free, and without taking up space like some of the bigger lights. Where as a flash light its designed not only to light up areas close to you but far away. Honestly you don't need 1100 lumens to light up an area close to you that is over kill. You need those lumens to light up far away. If you need that much light for close up get a big flood light. The flash light is not hands free so if you want to use both hands to work you have to lay it down or hold it in your mouth. I think it is more than adequate to do the job it was designed to do.
Perfect to go with all my other mechanic
M12 tool
This has to be the first time I disagree. Im a plumber and this light is absolutely perfect. Yeah the flash light is bright but it wont give you all day run time and getting it in a spot to keep the area lit without falling is impossible. The fact you can orient this light any which way with all day run time on high and it doesnt bother the eyes for 59 bucks is incredible. Fits perfect in my pro pac also.
@Sid The sloth I just picked one up last month, it's great. Only thing I plan on making it better is making a hanging hook for the magnet.
Use my rover every day doing electrical contracting work. I couldn't live without it
Well im a Dewalt platform guy that sometimes wonders about Milwaukee fans having more money then sense for what they pay for many Milwaukee products. But I gotta say I was thinking right away what many of the commentors were saying which was the light is designed as a task light with long run time in mind. And a quality long running task light is pretty valuable for those that gotta work in the dark often especially in tight spaces. A lot of times a headlamp or flashlight just doesnt cut it. I love my Dewalt DCL044 task light for its capability and compact portability and this Milwaukee light looks like its a step up for the Milwaukee guys. Oh and to you Milwaukee guys, notice I said sometimes up top 😉 because I do think that Milwaukee makes some quality stuff. I Can also see however that if Vince is always breaking out that new Milwaukee tower light hes probably like ehh when he thinks about a little task light like this one.
I got this light a month ago and I agree with Ken. This light works great for working on panels and close work in dark areas. It’s not bright on high and can run all day with 4.0. Haven’t used the charger and didn’t buy it for that so it’s just a bonus. I see what your saying about utilizing the faster charger but since it has Milwaukee’s name on it, it would cost more for that feature. Considering the price of there other M12 small light options I think it is a great light that fits in my bag and is not so bright it gives me a headache after a days work.
Yup what i came down to when i bought this today...i wanted a portable light that i can take to work but not so large like the 4000lumen flood light or the 1500lumen rover light that thats double the size and price and cant really put in my back pocket of my high viz vest...this fit the bill for sure
When working under the hood, working under the vehicle while it’s jacked up, even just changing the tire this light has been AMAZING. Don’t get me wrong bigger is always better, but 700 lumens lights up my entire front yard. I find I’m using it on low for most tasks when the light is 2-6 feet from my work. Personally, I love huge lumen ratings, but I refuse to use them if they kill my battery. For instance my Olight can do 1,600 lumens for two minutes. Then the battery steps down the run time significantly. I rarely ever use the highest mode because I’m not interested in draining the battery in a matter of minutes. 8 hours of runtime on 70” lumens is mind blowing to me. Lights up a medium sized room, and 8 hours is a long time. I couldn’t be happier with this light.
I build out sprinter vans for a living, this thing has become priceless in day to day use, especially working under the vans.
As mechanic. I love this light. Use it everyday
One thing is that little light at 1100 lumens will over heat while the m12 will not I know they can go higher but there are trade offs in time and how long the light will last
Actually no, that little light wont overheat. Light emitting diodes (led's)let off very little heat, which is why they don't need the big heat sinks of other type luminary globes
@@stevematthews4092 at 1100 lumen it need heat sink led are pretty hot and the driver as well
And this light got what max 2 hour run time its useless for continuous use
I was beginning to think you were a milwaukee sell out....my hat is off to you sir.
Nice job.
the m12 rover light is a fantastic light..I use it so often..even magnet it to the top of my ice fishing pop up..love the thing
We have livestock and I keep mine on my back door (steel door and it’s magnetic) and if I have to run outside in the middle of the night , I can grab it and go . I’m about to buy another one for my front door . I love this thing !
Its $59 bucks brand new. Too critical here. Sorry this is excellent. The m12 flood light is a 1000. The rocket light is 1400 lumens. The m12 stick light with the metal hook on, is 350-400 lumens. So this is perfect. Strong ass magnet, super small, lightweight. Its for being in tight spaces where u no longer will need a stupid headlamp all the time and blind everyone u speak to. TY for the review VCG, u were just giving your honest review. That's why I subscribe to this channel.
Did you actually use it in a dark room to do work to see if it was bright enough yet before making your comments? You did not do so in your video. You may have discovered the 700 is more than enough for the application and the complaint was not warranted. This is a smaller light and might be more practical in tighter or smaller places. You can always go to a bigger light or a m18 light in bigger spaces anyway. This is more compact to carry and store than the m12 or m18 rover. For a brighter light then you can use the bigger m12 rover, and the m18 rover which will have the advantage of more battery capacity. Plus there are the m12 and m18 lanterns as well.
Love your video Vince but let’s be real who needs 1000 lumins to look under your car or truck hood or under a kitchen sink?
Ease up on Milwaukee there’s no sin in being practical
You should really look @ O-Lights headlights... so lightweight you'll hardly notice it's on your head and you can get 6 hours of runtime 500 lumens... plus you don't have to Lug anything around .. best light purchase I've ever made were my O-Light headlights no other brand comes close for a comparison... every Tradesman should own an O-Light headlight or two imo
@@BuffaloNickel9 I agree I have 4 olights(I'm a olight fan)that i use to inspect pipes and other items in dark places,but when it comes to doing repairs I want a light that is wider and more flexible
I bought this light at home depot last week on sale for 50 bucks. I like it! I used to make up 2x4 leds. I would use the magnet to hang on the wooden mending plates and tilted it down on the work area. Not too bad👍
My next light this is what I want, I honestly think the Milwaukee true view makes a huge difference with wire and fiber color order. So that 700 equals other led 800 of 900 because of that true view
Like others have said, it comes down to run time and the quality of the light output. This is a higher quality flood/area light vs your pocket light which is more of a point light.
In regards to USB charging, I agree, USB C at full amps should be standard at this point. They should be looking to do what Skil has done and put a USB port on their batteries as well. Skil is somewhat lucky, they are (re)entering the cordless market with fresh standards and a clean drawing board, they don't have to drag legacy tools and batteries along like everyone else.
I'd hate there tp be a usb port on all their batteries. The batteries cost enough already and I'd worry about crap getting into the usb port and ruining the port and battery.
I use my rover daily and love it for work in tight spaces when doing machine repair.
This is my most used Milwaukee light. Although I will light a large room with it when the power goes out, I mostly use it at work, which is outdoors. Maybe you could post a video of how you mount that flashlight on a tractor to light the engine, or accessories you have behind the tractor? It attaches well to anything, and provides a perfect amount of light for one or two people working alone. Anything bigger is burning power that you just don’t need
Honestly this would make for a good roadside tool it's compact enough for your car, it's bright enough to check your engine and underneath your car and it works with the M12 platform so if you only have 1 or 2 batteries you don't have to sweat.
I’ve got one in both of my semi trucks. Perfect light for pretrip and road side repairs imo.
This is the best small size battery powered light that Milwaukee has nailed …. No way people hate this light .
I like the light. Good true view is a big deal. And 700 lumens true view is impressive. However, as a mobile mechanic, I wish they had including m12 battery charging capabilities. So that I could ditch the compact charger and just bring this unit along.
This light has its purpose and is well suited for its intended purpose. For soft area lighting, I hang it inside a translucent bucket. I don’t use the usb charging , but nice to have it in case. I also have spots and flash lights that I use for their intended purposes. 2 totally different lights. I don’t understand the apples to oranges comparison.
Like you need more than 700 lumens when you are working 2 or 3 ft away from it. It’s marketed as a hand held work light. That’s plenty bright. Not everything has to be 1000+ lumens
Vince you hit the nail on the head. Milwaukee went soft and purposely left features off for gen 2.
Fits in my pouch nicely. Convenience
Brightness is one thing, light coverage is another. I have this rover light and a Milwaukee flashlight, 2 totally different ball games. I live in Oklahoma, we experience power outages whether it's from tornados, ice storms or wind, this rover light along with a few other Milwaukee M12 and M18 lights came in handy when we had a tornado do a lot of damage to homes and power lines surrounding me, this USB on the Rover light came in handy keeping our phones charged keeping in contact with family, that flashlight would've shown me where the toilet is but that's about it.
Personally, (even at just 500 lumens) I prefer the pivoting head flashlight. It's really bright, has a high and low flood mode and very bright spot mode, remembers what mode you left it on when turned off, and a magnet at the base. The pivoting head feels nice and the flashlight feels solid.
My go to light for emergencies and great for work and automotive and emergency charger phone or when power goes out great tool Milwaukee
The advantage of the Milwaukee is when it dies, you can just swap a fully charged battery into it. You've got to wait for your little flashlight to charge before you can use it again. I don't think you're too critical though. They should've at least added a tiny Bluetooth speaker or something into this one; if they're gonna skimp on the lumens and no rapid charging, they need something else in it.
Seriously love this light. Someone yanked it from me on a job site and ended up buying an m18 rover. Wish I bought a second m12 rather than the heavier m18
Man I hate guys that steal your tools that's a death sentence on the oil sands. Sorry this happened to you.
The man always seems to me as if he works in a used car dealership in Jersey 😂 I love the light it’s phenomenal in confined spaces when size is an issue.
I think they kept it only 700 lumens only because it’s meant for closer quarters like under a vehicle or under the hood.
I agree with the masses, working on cars or close to you where the light can be shifted around to improve the angle is great and too much light would be excessive and throw off night vision. You could move a brighter light further away but then you would have to get up from your work to move it for angle adjustment or to move to another area of the project.
I could have really used this light for working under my car last week when i had a broken evap valve.
Regardless of the connector on the end of the cable, the USB type A port USB 2.0, has a max amp output of 2.4, rarely is there a usb type A 3.0 port, which can do up to 3amp, usually has a green or blue or purple colored port where the usb 2 is white on the inside. A usb type C port on both ends, can go up to 20v 5amp 100w, if both devices support it, that is why many laptops can now use USB to charge.
The adapter cable Vince used will work, but only at the 2.4 amps, meaning it will charge very slowly, if the device supports fast/quick charging, it will not provide enough power for that and it will charge ‘slow mode’. Something like an iPad Pro, it will not charge at all, as the iPad needs more than 2.4 amp just to run, so it still uses some of the battery when it is plugged in.
Love VCG Brother 🔦😇
Can you do a update on all your Milwaukee collection
I just received 2 of them and they are great Monday 1/11/2021 will be the first day on the job and with them I'll let you guy's know how they go but 700 lumens is crazy bright in a small 10x10x8 room they should work great
Flash light is a spot light, the rover is a flood light. If you're in the woods at night you want a spot light, when you're working on something you want a flood light, yes less lumens, but light is spread over a larger area.
puchased one a couple of days ago for a commercial vehicle shop so far its been AWESOME!
You would think it would be twice as powerful as the pocket flashlight. Maybe they wanted to make the light a little more subtle because they figured it would be used in small tight spaces. Then again why not make it twice as bright and give it one more dimmer mode so you have that option. Not sure. That’s kind of a head scratcher.
This is a good example of a carpenter looking at a mechanics tool. Kind of like if someone handed me a router. This is a solid contender because I have so many m12 batteries. I also don’t know how useful a flashlight is on my belt. He mentioned our hard earned money, did he happen to mention a price for this thing?
59$ us
@@legros731 thank you, that’s a pretty good deal. What warranty do you think they will have?
"This is a lightening cable... At least I know that much" lol
The m18 spot/flood light is only 700 lumens on flood. And that shit can light a entire room. lumens is a terrible unit of measure and efficiency.
Agreed.. I collect O- light flashlights/ headlights..to me they're the most well-made out there with the magnetic charging Etc and have earned their cult-like following...
I have some flashlights that are big and thick 2500 lumens and have Olight Warriors & Warrior X that are 1500 lumens and will absolutely put the higher 250p lumen to shame in every aspect flood throw brightness Etc...
Perhaps Candela is a better measurement but for right now everyone uses lumens..
tell me if you agree, but you really don't know how bright or how much you will like a light into you get it in your hands despite what the Lumen output says..
for example if I want a really bright light, I can end up with a 1500 or 1800 Lumen instead of 2500 lumen because it was brighter & provided the right amount of throw, flood, etcetera..
Milwaukee fanboy alert
$50 on sale at Home Depot was a steal. Use 6 amp Whitley generic 6 A battery’s 2 for $35 and when we forget it at the job site we don’t cry. Now ,there up to $70 for tool and $70 for 6 amp Milwaukee battery $140 too expensive. $50 was a great price point for this light. We have 66 of these and there FANTASTIC! (But Milwaukee knows you’re gonna leave them in the rafters and up on a duck work )easy to carry in and could care less about the charge feature rather lower the price. Some guys charge a speaker off it and phone off the other lights. The magnet is 85% spot on, great for replacing electrical panels and repairs for furnaces.
700 luminaries is great for the runtime is what is key and the purpose. Never want to hold a flashlight again. Let’s the see if it last five years on a service truck. These are definitely or go to lights when we walk into a dark building or home and we can see you so we don’t trip and fall better than a flashlight.
I think raw output in lumens isn't as useful in a light that is supposed to illuminate a work area (like under a car for example) that is in close proximity, too much light just washes things out. I agree that they could have upgraded the usb port to provide more amperage.
Thanks for mentioning how it should have came with a USB Type C.
I use it for elevator and escalator maintenance. It is absolutely perfect
Love the energy and humor. However, I think you missed the point. Its not a pin light! Its a flood light. Great for use when working is tight crawl spaces or attics. Keep the reviews coming. Marry Christmas! Cheers
Youre right vince. It falls behind the avg when it comes to lighting output. But they're a tool specialist not lighting specialists.. just another offering for the brand addicts
Nope it a more mecanic oriented light like a lot of m12 products
Most mecanic ligth are in the 400 lumen and don't even last 4 hours and you can't change the battery so you need 2 to go all day at work
But it on the lift post for under light or under the hood
The glasses say it all bro lol 😂
I think your a bit rough on it.. I’m an auto tech and think it will come in very handy all lights have a use i have allot of different lights for different situations
It’s a work light, not a flashlight.... I would rather have the rover working under a sink, working on a car, lighting up a room, etc. Two different tasks. Looks like an awesome light to me. 700 lumens for that run time seems like a win to me.
Yes he is literally blinded by the lumen number and can't see the use for this light
True the light is built in such a way that the expectation that it should be brighter is reasonable. The size of the light dictates where and how the light will be used. Do you really want 1000 or more lumens inside a cabinet or under a dash? The unit is plenty strong for how I intend to use it. Do I think that milwaukee released it, the way it is leaving room for improvements and a gen 2 ? Absolutely.
They definitely dropped the ball. I want that 🔦
I agree they have come up short with the torch
Excellent and as always honest review Vince 👍🏽
Could you guys maybe do a bit on storage solutions? Specifically trailer storage solutions?? I’m sure y’all have plenty of video ideas but this one would help a new trailer owner out. Any of my VCG family got setups that you love? Hit me up guys!
VCG has a trailer in their ad. Have they ever shared a video of the setup inside?
@@flybryfly obviously if I had known that I would have said nothing. 👍
@@flybryfly should I pause the intro and study the image?
I feel like they were going for a WORK LIGHT. Like one that can run at max output for a full work shift. If they went to 1000 or 1100 lumens but sacrificed runtime. Then to get through the day you'd need a 6.0 or a few 4.0 ah. I have a pocket light that's 2800lumens but it only runs about 20 minutes at that output. Not very practical but it is nice having the output at times I suppose.
Whos gonna tell Vince the standard USB port is call USB Type A, not TypeB
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I with Vince.. a, b, c x y z z who can keep up with that stuff.
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@@idude1471 There is Type A (normal usb) and type C (the new reversible, kinda lightning shaped). Those are the only two ports that supply power. Then there is all the ports that consume the power, USB-C, micro USB, mini USB (super old), then the random ports for TV's, monitors, consoles and such. But in terms of power supply there is only A and C.
@@bricesechrist6438 usb 3.0 type b also supplies power...
Vin I love mine. I’m a plumber and I use it every day
Perfect for a rake light whem sanding
I find its pretty bright because it brightens a wider area then my super bright flashlight. I agree the USB C should be standard
Don’t see much for the usb part and 700 is plenty if your working on electrical panels and other security panels. 1100 would be way to bright I’m happy with the magnet pivot and 700
I have one of those things. I think it's crazy! Very bright and runs for like 30 hours or something. Also it rapid charges your phone.
Yes, they thought: Runtime! (Cuz most just set it on "high" and never change)
I have the usb rover and it only has 445 lumens. This M12 would be a big improvement. I already have a M12&M18 power source, so I don't need the usb charger
this would have been perfect for me yesterday, 12 hour power outage in alaska couple of these around would have made life easier.
Just ordered from CPO Outlets, gonna be real helpful around the house.
Very Wise my friend, have a great Sunday!
@@VCGConstruction to you as well
Wish it had some fold out hooks for hanging it. Also one of those suction things(smaller version) like the ones use for carrying glass windows would be nice to have on the back with those magnets
The light output is perfect for a service light That’s what it is advertised to be. You don’t need more
Bad rant. I think they got it right. You don't need over 1K lumens for task lighting. Not giving more light than needed and more battery life is what they were likely thinking. As soon as I see one on sale, I'll have it.
lamp is perfect for hvac.
I think the rover would be better under a sink. Like fixing a faucet. Try to stand up the 1100 stick light under a small cabinet.
Spot on Vince. Purchsedr M18 light a few years ago. Now they finally, came out with what I wanted. Dual power supply support. Will not make the jump till price comes down.
If they put more lumens it wouldn't last a full 8hr shift i think it's great and will be getting 1 tomorrow