How Amazon Made the 1 Million Lumen Flashlight

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    Today we tackle the infamous 1 Million lumen flashlight from Amazon and see exactly how far they've gotten on the website vs a more likely to be known quantity in a Wurkkos 13,000 Lumen TS32. We wern't holding our breath for 6 digit results, but it's good to check in on these things to see how far we've come and how far the site has to go.
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    0:00 Light #1
    2:00 900K
    3:29 990K
    4:22 Only 13,000
    6:38 990K #2
    7:53 Thrower
    8:53 1M
    9:50 Runtime/battery
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  • @TorqueTestChannel
    @TorqueTestChannel  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    This is episode 20 in a series of testing various light types, usually from actual brands: th-cam.com/play/PLYka5JBKPLHEfG1w1WC_bbN4vQglwyp5n.html

    • @jjchouinard2327
      @jjchouinard2327 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Do you guys ever contact Amazon regarding these bonkers false (advertising) claims?

    • @mohamed1104
      @mohamed1104 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Can you use 18650 batteries in these lights? I have never heard of the batteries that come with them.

    • @SpatialDragon
      @SpatialDragon 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I am looking for a headlamp. I have tried a couple of the led bands and they sucked. I want something that is a floodlight first and if possible a spotlight. So far Harbor Freight is the best I have tried. I haven't noticed a test on them here, I have watched a couple of years. If you get a chance, thanks. You guys rock.

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Headlamps: th-cam.com/video/Io2ENJa-hDQ/w-d-xo.html
      - Yes you can use 18650's in these lights with the collar spacer some of them come with.
      - We've reported dozens of these for misleading claims, yes.

    • @Feldmarshall12
      @Feldmarshall12 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TorqueTestChannel Small sugestion for future tests. Add another round of tests with standarized batteries (for example 5C discharge current from Samsung, withsimilar energy density for different sizes). This way you would test the lights factoring out the batteries.

  • @craigmiller332
    @craigmiller332 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +270

    I eagerly await the "1 Billion" Lumen light from Amazon...

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      It'll come after we hit 2 million, 5 million, 10 million, 100 million, 500 million 😂

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +76

      I hope you're willing to wait..... a whole 3 weeks :P

    • @craigmiller332
      @craigmiller332 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TorqueTestChannel someday, flashlights will be rated in "Suns" 🌞 (which incidentally someone once calculated to be ~36 Octillion lumens). Will it stop there? Noooooo Mr. Bond! TTC will be testing $39 Amazon flashlights with "20 GigaSuns" ratings. Eventually it will all become meaningless. Nietzsche was right. The TTC will become the existential nihilist channel.

    • @rhetorical1488
      @rhetorical1488 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I have my pennies saved up for the sharks with laser beams.

    • @agoogleuser1188
      @agoogleuser1188 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Bros got goals beyond our understanding

  • @ThriftyToolShed
    @ThriftyToolShed 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +95

    Wow! .05% of claim! None of the crappy ones even reached
    .25%🤯
    How in the world...
    Excellent testing as always TTC👍

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Thanks Thrifty!

    • @HoodedGreener
      @HoodedGreener 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      that omalight specifically was horrible, wow

  • @shadowgolem9158
    @shadowgolem9158 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +114

    For reference...a very powerful arc welder generates around 200000 lumens.
    A 20k$ pro follow spot throws about 14000 lumens at 100 feet. Which feels pretty warm even at that distance.

    • @clockworkvanhellsing372
      @clockworkvanhellsing372 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      The current top of the line led reach ~200Lumen/watt at reasonable power levels. Even with those, you'd still need a 5000W led array to reach that brightness.

    • @mondavou9408
      @mondavou9408 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      helpful

    • @flakby3085
      @flakby3085 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      For another reference: A WW2 150 cm searchlight, which were used to light up planes up to 12 km high, has roughly 1.25 million lumens. (And pretty much 1 billion candela because it's a very focused beam)

    • @ohioplayer-bl9em
      @ohioplayer-bl9em 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@flakby3085those could have been used as weapons at shorter distances. Can you imagine lightning that up with it focused on the tree line the enemy is hiding in. It would instantly blind the for several minutes and possibly cause permanent damage. It stimulates my mind to think of all sorts of horrible weapons based on light.
      A tree line 2-3 miles away, 10 search lights fire up at once and all point at the same spot.. the woods will start to smolder 😂. Anyone that looks towards the light to try and shoot at it would be blinded and unable to open there eyes for days 😢

    • @ArtemisKitty
      @ArtemisKitty วันที่ผ่านมา

      And let's not forget one almost everyone is familiar with: The sun! That's around 127,000 lumens, roughly.

  • @komitadjie
    @komitadjie 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

    Man, I've been noticing those "Review Hijacks" quite a bit myself. I'm an Amazon Vine reviewer, so I end up getting to test out and review a fair bit of stuff before it even hits the main pages. On quite a few of my reviews, I've gone back to update something as I've put more time on the item and have more input to give - Only to find out that the item being sold that has my first review isn't even close to what I actually reviewed!
    My favourite there so far was reviewing a $9.95 pressure washer extension wand. It was pretty good, nice and solid, good quick-connects, held up well in use. Not a big deal, pretty simple item. I reviewed it five stars - it was a good value and did what it was supposed to well. Come back in a couple months to update and say that after a few months of use it was still holding up well... Lo and behold, that page is now selling a $199 electric pressure washer instead! And still has my five-star review on it! (I dumped the review to one-star and detailed why.)

    • @kylek29
      @kylek29 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I've had the same experience. Even good brands are doing it (recycling prior model pages). They could handle it by putting a time-limit / edit-diff system on their listings -- something like a limitation on editing the listing after X days of it being published, after that period, you can only strikeout and/or add "citation" markers that link to a "Product Updates" section, with the main text being locked from the addition of text from there on out.
      Include a similar system for images and a prominent "report listing" button for customers, and these sellers would have to find a new way to cheat.

    • @vink6163
      @vink6163 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Sounds like you need to start including the product name and price at the start of your review so people know when that happens

    • @JS-bh5pm
      @JS-bh5pm 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Most people are thinking of cleaver ways just to rip you off. Amazon should Banned these people for life

    • @Badkitty24
      @Badkitty24 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@vink6163 This is what i do. I type out the EXACT ITEM and price i am reviewing, because they group many items together that aren't even the same.

  • @chubbysumo2230
    @chubbysumo2230 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +354

    how is this not false advertising on amazon's part?

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +235

      It's technically not Amazon doing the advertising, but the vendor. Though we used to hold retailers responsible for that, i.e. is Walmart was selling another brand's TV and it says 42" but measured 39" diagonally we'd probably blame Walmart.
      But Amazon is so massive, we've equated it to Ebay and just sort of shrug now like "what can be done" which I do sort of agree with. It's Whack-a-mole like we cover towards the end of the episode. But I also feel it's in Amazon best interest to stay relevant to at least try. Their search engine usually turns up just trash lately.

    • @craigmiller332
      @craigmiller332 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +56

      ​@@TorqueTestChannelopen up a few of those "suspiciously light" batteries and I'll bet you find a smaller battery inside. Once you've weighed the empty sleeves you'll get a reasonably ballpark correction factor to ID the probable internal batteries within. Of course you've already measured the battery capacity, but this can add an extra column to the spreadsheet.
      Another great review 👍

    • @emiliog.4432
      @emiliog.4432 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Jeff Bezos and Amazon does not care about fraud, counterfeiting or fraudulent claims. $$$$$ I canceled my Prime account years ago.

    • @danr1920
      @danr1920 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +81

      It's not false advertising, it's FRAUD!

    • @someguy2741
      @someguy2741 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They wont because it would trigger the blue-haired nose-ring weirdo-NPC army of the 0.0001% of people to complaine of all kinds of "-isms".
      The "army" is convinced that the chinese companies would never risk "their good name". They have ZERO ability to understand that the companies are made up names.
      Dont expect amazon to ever do anything unless there is a major safety concern after a lot of injury.

  • @grumpycat5991
    @grumpycat5991 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Amazon Customer: "I bought the cool new flashlight"
    Amazon's customer's Bro: "But how many Lumens does it have???"
    Amazon Customer: "ALL OF THEM"

  • @epointy
    @epointy 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +66

    I love the flashlight series!(and I want more!)

    • @TsunauticusIV
      @TsunauticusIV 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I love it too. I’ve always loved flashlights. I have more flashlights than any one man should have… and I regret buying none of them. 😆

    • @secret5.
      @secret5. 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Still waiting on a Klarus in a future lineup.

  • @someguy2741
    @someguy2741 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    Most people have no idea of what measurements of anything is anymore. Or they think "led" is all the same. I showed my neighbor the difference between a cheap 10w led and a nice one. It was incredibly apparent what it was worth.

    • @hugegamer5988
      @hugegamer5988 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      “Or they think "led" is all the same” Yea, I don’t get it either. First everyone complains it’s a toxic metal, then it’s heralded as the bastion of efficient light creation and a green product.

    • @victorro8760
      @victorro8760 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@hugegamer5988 And before all that, everyone used the word as past tense of "lead". They're so inconsistent.

    • @vink6163
      @vink6163 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Plus everyone thinks it's new technology, but even buildings hundreds of years old have leadlights in them

  • @DigitalIP
    @DigitalIP 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    I've been using a USB 5v-24v step up converter to power a 12v Spot/Off road light with a USB Power bank. Since ive been DIY'ing my own lights i havent needed a normal flashlight for quite some time now.

    • @mromutt
      @mromutt 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      haha I use a drill battery and one of those old style round glass headlights for a flashlight, dyi lights are great. I slapped it together in one of those cheap plastic "ammo" cases you get at walmart for 5 or 6 bucks.

    • @DigitalIP
      @DigitalIP 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@mromutt See thats the thing, i initially also used a 20v 6amp Craftsman battery along with their 150w DC-AC Inverter to power various 12v Fog/Spot/Lightbars with a 12v power supply plugged into it, but it was just too bulky for my liking, then i remembered i had the USB step up converter modules, went through my stash of USB power banks to find one that could handle the startup current and i was good to go.
      Much easier to manage without the extra size/weight of the 20v battery in addition to the power supply compared to a small USB Power bank..

    • @mromutt
      @mromutt 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@DigitalIP for mine I was kind of going for the form factor. I always wanted one of those jurassic park flashlights haha. That and I like setting it down and pointing it at the work like under the sink. I am working on a small handheld though with a motorcycle fog light and either my Bosch 12v or hypertough 12v batteries, they both have a good interface and shape to use spade terminals for a homemade direct quick connect to the battery. Need to work out a handle body still.

    • @BigEightiesNewWave
      @BigEightiesNewWave 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@mromutt The high beam on a sealed beam throws way better than this Amazon junk. Great idea.

  • @devyn10111
    @devyn10111 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    Can you do tests on the portable car air compressors? Maybe evaluate speed, max psi, functionality, ease of use? I know a few of them are junk

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      I've never met one worth a damn, i don't have 4 mins per tire to wait around. But off-road i suppose it's better than nothing

    • @rudolphna54
      @rudolphna54 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@TorqueTestChannel Funnily enough, the Harbor Freight 12V one is by far the best 12V one available I've found, it's the fastest and quietest.

    • @jeffh7021
      @jeffh7021 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The Milwaukee m18 tire inflator is by far the best portable inflator right now. Nothing else is even close, from what I've seen.

    • @riba2233
      @riba2233 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@jeffh7021 I wouldn't say nothing else is close, ridgid is not far and also makita which has a bit less power but is smaller, has deflation button and double the duty cycle

    • @SGTMinguez
      @SGTMinguez 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @TorqueTestChannel
      Maybe do one with the 12V wired ViAir, Tireflate, ARB and the knockoff ARB compressors, since Todd at Project Farm already did a similar battery powered inflator test?

  • @tasaman
    @tasaman 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I picked up two Wurkkos and for the money they can't be beat in my opinion. I also own Fenix, Olight, and Nightcore. For $26 on sale the FC11 is a great edc choice and great gift.

    • @danielcrouch6589
      @danielcrouch6589 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Love my Wurkkos TS70! Best house light I've ever had; turns night into day!

  • @alex_thecarguy
    @alex_thecarguy 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    A while back I was looking for new rear bilstein shocks for my truck. I checked amazon over a few weeks. One day a pair of those shocks came up for $129, much less than the usual $99 each. Seeing the -50% amazon price, I decided to go with it, only to be shipped ONE shock for 30 dollars above market price. When I went back to the listing, the picture of two shocks had changed to one, as well as the description, but I had screenshots.
    Seller ended up giving me a full refund and amazon sent me a free replacement shock. But the point is, the listing changes are real, and they can bite you in the ass quick. ALWAYS screenshot if you have even a hint of suspicion. Amazon needs to up their QC game... And by that I mean have any seller qc at all.

    • @harpintn
      @harpintn 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Just one of many reasons I don't buy from Amazon.

  • @Feldmarshall12
    @Feldmarshall12 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Amazingly, I feel the advertising on aliexpress is now much closer to reality. If you ignore 10kW 1M lumen crap, you can often find info on what emitter is actually used and get realistic data. Convoy is a brand I have good expierience with. They specify LED model, light spectral temperature, CRI, realistic maximum power draw etc. Another example: on my bike I use towild BR800, that feels like couple of hundreds lumen light and has an asymteric spot to limit blinding other people... And you can swap 18650 cells on long rides.
    P.S: It may be better to use some standarized 'middle of the pack cells' when testing, to separate performance of the flashlight from performance of the battery. For flashlights 5-10C cells should be more than enough (10C means discharge current of in mA of 10*capacity in mAh). Anyway, keep up the good work: )

    • @nicholasvinen
      @nicholasvinen 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I have a Convoy, I like it. Good value and you can customise each torch.

    • @moonrazk
      @moonrazk 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There's quite a bunch of good flashlight brands on Ali, the one shown here, Wurkkos, Convoy, like you said, Sofirn and Lumintop as well.

    • @saddlepiggy
      @saddlepiggy 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You’re completely right. I don’t use Amazon for projects because they never have technical specs or even rough dimensions while aliexpress will give you dimensiones drawings. And it arrives in 1-2 weeks instead of 1-2 months now.

    • @churblefurbles
      @churblefurbles 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Trusty convoy, mine all still work, and they have plenty of accessories, and the best part, you can pick color temperature.

  • @chimrichalds1422
    @chimrichalds1422 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    I know alot of you are upset with Amazon and using words like false advertising and fraud, but none of that really matters because once someone blows that 600Db airhorn we're all dead anyway. Just enjoy life while you can.

  • @leftcoastfunk
    @leftcoastfunk 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    the completely unethical review hijacking/product page editing on Amazon is SO out of hand. I review a LOT of Amazon products through their Vine program, mostly from these small marketplace vendors. Every time I see that the product page has been edited to/from a completely different product my review is an instant 1-star. Amazon really needs to either lock down product listings to permanently tie them to reviews for that exact item and/or force any product listing edits to be approved through an actual human review process
    Anyway, I always appreciate these types of product reviews you do, and especially you calling these sellers out for their unethical BS

  • @bashkillszombies
    @bashkillszombies 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I asked them about the weight of their batteries. Their answer in broken English was, the batteries get heavier when full, they are sent empty so they weigh less. I laughed. Then did an Amazon return. After writing a warning note to anyone they try to flip this to.

  • @PhillyFixed
    @PhillyFixed 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    MY EYESSSS oh wait nah I'm fine.

  • @TheZigZiggy
    @TheZigZiggy 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Whatever happened to the truth in advertising laws?

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Amazon laughs at laws

    • @scott8919
      @scott8919 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Depends on how hard the authorities want to crack down on it. There's probably so many that lie that it is impossible to catch up to them.

    • @hornetf18
      @hornetf18 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@scott8919
      Also even when the seller is caught, they just shut down and re-emerge as a different seller with a different name. That’s why there are so many sellers with random combinations of letters as names. Amazon will still make money, so they have little incentive to enforce these laws.

    • @TheRealMikeWilly
      @TheRealMikeWilly 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@scott8919that and the fact that they kill off their brand names every couple months which makes prosecution impossible.

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Amazon is essentially China's consumer portal. Amazon has no interest in losing their best customer, which isn't you, it's chinese sponsored products.

  • @JoeTheDIY
    @JoeTheDIY 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    It's like the wild west days of online retailing. One day we'll look back on these days and say we were there in those wild times of incredible claims.

    • @johnsmith7676
      @johnsmith7676 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No... This is the Dead West. They destroyed it just like they said they would.

  • @gucky4717
    @gucky4717 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I use the Nitecore MH12 Pro myself. It uses a 5300mhA 21700 and outputs about 3300 Lumen with the turbo, but I usually use the 1200 high mode, since Turbo drains the battery and overheats the LED after a short time. And 1200 Lumen is more then enough.

  • @paranoiia8
    @paranoiia8 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Few times I took apart those cheap batteries. They are so empty, when open them it in quiet room you can hear vacuum suck air inside... I bet that someone already think about putting inside them sand to make them feel heavier :D

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I've seen a picture of an 18650 teardown that had sand inside... It was really just a tiny 200mah "vape pen style" battery in a bigger case and filled with sand 🤣

  • @terryloh8583
    @terryloh8583 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you so much for making these videos! Very helpful.

  • @Random_4400
    @Random_4400 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Flashlights are the only reason why i subscribed to this channel, keep up the good work!

  • @matthewdrew6268
    @matthewdrew6268 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Been using my ts32 for about a year now. I also have p45 cells. It's a great light I took the handle off and it fits in my cup holder nice. Would recommend

  • @tda2806
    @tda2806 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    A word of caution, XHP with numbers other than 35, 50 or 70 have nothing to do with Cree, one of the flashlights (torches for us Brits) has XHP160.5 on its box.

  • @John_Ridley
    @John_Ridley 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    If a flashlight actually put out a million lumens, it wouldn't be a flashlight anymore, it'd be a weapon. You could start fires with just the light from it.

    • @eddzyeddzy6158
      @eddzyeddzy6158 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      every one should have them for self defense, dry-washing their cars, remove paint off of walls etc

  • @TroyStevensStelzerPaintingInc
    @TroyStevensStelzerPaintingInc 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thanks for another great vid! I think another reason these companies change specs & offerings so frequently is to spread the bad reviews around. Let's face it, if any one of those offerings you tested were to remain unchanged for long enough, nobody would be willing to waste their money, since 1 star reviews would dominate, (except for all the fake 5 star reviews, but that's a theme for another day).

  • @jiefan249
    @jiefan249 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    thanks for your tests!

  • @nriyo3
    @nriyo3 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your tests and channel are awesome. I would love to see you test Zebralight and Armytek and Acebeam.

  • @afd1959
    @afd1959 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice Job. A lot of work. Thank you.

  • @mercMADCommando
    @mercMADCommando 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The product page changes go well beyond just changing description and specs. I've seen stuff completely change items (often unrelated) and they keep their old ratings, reviews, etc. Amazon turned into ebay 2.0 over the last few years.

  • @PaulSteMarie
    @PaulSteMarie 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    You should be able to return these to Amazon as not as described on the website, but Amazon has a habit of "firing" customers who return too many items.
    I wish lawmakers would quit whining about how Amazon is abusing the poor third party sellers and instead focus on how Amazon is conspiring with shady Chinese firms to commit fraud with inflated specifications, counterfeit UL certifications, and items that fail to meet minimal safety standards.

  • @nich.894
    @nich.894 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    With this I can finally become the gnat lord

  • @jaredm450
    @jaredm450 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love these flashlight testing episodes.

  • @briangschaefer7048
    @briangschaefer7048 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another brilliant video. Thank you.

  • @Toumis
    @Toumis 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have the first flashlight but rebranded,was used quiet extensively doing MOT checks!

    • @MetalheadAndNerd
      @MetalheadAndNerd 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I also have a couple of flashlights using this body. They hugely differ dependent on the LED.

  • @orvaroth1613
    @orvaroth1613 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Do they make / have you tried any tools with the lifepo4 batteries? cheers

  • @brainiac9579
    @brainiac9579 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great review, video, as always. I have a question: Did you measure the light output in strobe mode? When I had access to the equipment, I did on a couple of flashlights the kids got as gifts and they were generating around twice the intensity as in "normal" mode. The reason was that since it's not operating in CC mode, they were overdriving the LED. Not saying that any of your test subjects would have met their claims in strobe, but it might be fun to add that measurement if it differs from from normal mode.

  • @jeffreyh3739
    @jeffreyh3739 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm a budget minded light freak from the incandescent days of candlepowerforums. I've since switched to headlamps and they've literally saved my life a couple times mountaineering, whitewater, and rock climbing. I've owned maybe 40 over the years but have been stuck on Fenix as of late. The line refactor and new models are a bit weird and not sure i like the quality of light but could you test some?
    All-time favorite headlamp Fenix HL60R and the "too-bright for anything normal but great for seeing 60m up a cliff while climbing" HM70R. I can lend you mine if it makes things easier.

  • @Bolero6879
    @Bolero6879 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I love watching these flashlight comparisons, you should test UV lights at some point!

    • @mromutt
      @mromutt 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh man thats a whole can of worms! and right up their alley with the wild claims and false advertising thats rampid.

  • @user-ex2jl5zu8k
    @user-ex2jl5zu8k 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you for the review. I have always wondered how some manufacturers could make such absurd and dishonest claims without being punished.

  • @joeschmo622
    @joeschmo622 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just for the record, Sofirn and Wurkkos all use the same factory to produce their products, but they're independent and separate companies. There's even a bit of rivalry between them, as each takes their lights in different directions. I'm a fan of both Sofirn and Wurkkos, and have quite a bunch of their lights, and they're largely quite good. And unlike other mfrs, both use their own branded cells which are also quite good (usually) Lishen cells, which may not be 30Qs or VTC6es, but I always test the come-with cells, and they always clock in within 10% if not 5% of their rated mAH.
    "Rule of thumb" is that a reputable mfr's cells that are self-branded (Wurkkos, Sofirn, Wuben, Acebeam, Nitecore, etc.) are almost universally good-to-excellent cells. No-name generic-wrapped cells from alphabet-soup name companies are usually crap, pulled from recycle bins which is a *HUGE* industry in a certain large Asian country. So what *was* a good 5000mAH 26650 is now a recycled-and-rewrapped 2000mAH cell slipped into a Wsinawoo or Bebopadoo generic light.

  • @andrewvelonis5940
    @andrewvelonis5940 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for doing this. I admit, I don't know the technical info but I get the gist. I've seen many ads for supe-duper flashlights and been tempted by some of them, but my brother-in-law has a friend who got one and the battery self-ignited so that's kind of a problem.

  • @justinvanburen8259
    @justinvanburen8259 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another great video thank you!!

  • @booom2314
    @booom2314 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Please test and compare convoy flashlights next.

  • @bping777
    @bping777 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    @Torque Test Channel have you done testing of the major tool brands flashlights that use their regular tool batteries? Models like DCL040, PCL660, 2735-20, and others.

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      We haven't but can. Our current limitation is sphere opening diameter, and power tool lights not advertising the light head size. but the ones you listed are small enough i believe

  • @theghost75
    @theghost75 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Way to be straight up and factual. Love it

  • @wadet73
    @wadet73 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Test the LED headlight for hardhats or just slipping on to walk the dogs. I have 2 Smiling Shark brand lights with 230° COB lights along the front and a separate thrower. Once fully charged, these lights begin dimming after a few minutes. I found if the on/off sensor is on and you wave 👋🏼 to turn light off, wave again and it comes on at 💯 again. But yes, I have found using these headlamps frees up my hands when walking the dogs. Great content

  • @iamdarth8393
    @iamdarth8393 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As someone who works with global machine shops and suppliers, I have on many occasions encountered potential suppliers supplying perfect first articles for validation and then shipping unusable junk after validation is approved.
    Once had a Chinese hardware supplier provide a Grade 2 spec bolt (lowest standard grade) that failed pressure testing at half its designed load. There response: it was wasn't a grade 2 bolt, it was a bolt made from "grade 2 steel". "Grade 2 steel" isn't a standard way of classifying steel. They sent good samples then got caught send garbage pot metal bolts for production use.

  • @eakamjotsingh4037
    @eakamjotsingh4037 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    dam fresh ass video

  • @jozsefizsak
    @jozsefizsak 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very good. Thank you.

  • @mediocreman2
    @mediocreman2 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    When are you guys going to start testing color temperature and CRI?

  • @HappyHands.
    @HappyHands. 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great Video as usual

  • @m_cabral
    @m_cabral 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I use streamlight regulated 18650s with the built in charging circuit in my cheap flashlights so I know there’s at least one good regulation circuit involved. I also don’t charge in the flashlight since I may as well add some caution to my caution.

  • @goskidmark
    @goskidmark 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One could make a case with an attorney for false advertisements, but that may be a goose chase. Thank you for the reviews!

  • @hildafoski2705
    @hildafoski2705 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great review:)

  • @davidciesielski8251
    @davidciesielski8251 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    WOW, you guys are great!!!

  • @SEBTECHDIY
    @SEBTECHDIY 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That's why I like companies like Olight who truly test lumens, candela, runtime and give the result of their tests.

  • @hugegamer5988
    @hugegamer5988 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is right up there with shop vacs saying they are 5hp and plugging into 120V @15A. Even with 100% power factor (hint it’s not even close) and 100% efficient motors we are talking 1800watts available and a horsepower is about 746 watts. 2.4 is the max under physics and 1.5 is the max in reality and 1.0 - 1.3 is about the most and still be up to electrical codes.

  • @martinschuessler1936
    @martinschuessler1936 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Sofirn/Wurkos seem to be pretty honest. Not only do their lumen ratings come in close to advertised, but the batteries they include are decent too.

    • @hornetf18
      @hornetf18 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I’ve got a chunky flashlight from them that can do 8,000 lumens and is adjustable by holder the power button. It is an absolute brick and I love it.

    • @tasaman
      @tasaman 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Really like my Wurkkos lights.

    • @andyj6234
      @andyj6234 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@hornetf18sp36 pro?

  • @Infamouscoma885
    @Infamouscoma885 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Would love to see you guys review the litez all Kodiak Kong flashlight I have the previous version and it’s ridiculously bright!

  • @daniel9111
    @daniel9111 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Your channel is gold. Keep it up

  • @00SNIVY00
    @00SNIVY00 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very happy with my Sofirn lights, really good value for what you get. I don't have the tools to test them myself, but the lumen capability seems consistent enough between the different flashlights I've purchased.

  • @aarondavies8486
    @aarondavies8486 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Nice one here in the uk fishing from the bank and casting like 150 yards and these torches will help me out when night fishing and seeing my lead plop

  • @CrashOD
    @CrashOD 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is the first video I've seen on this channel; it just popped up in my list. I enjoy videos where people conduct thorough reviews, testing out all the different features. I've now subscribed to this channel for all future videos.
    With a million lumens, you could probably blind someone-likely worse than a flash grenade, lol. I must say, I did get a small Olight I3E 90 lm that uses a AAA battery, and it works quite well. Of course, it doesn't last very long-45 minutes with an alkaline battery and 70 minutes with NiMH, according to the specifications. I just use it to check the mailbox at night about three to four times a month. The battery lasts me quite a while. I check the mailbox at one of my jobs where I have to pick up mail at night. I go through the mail for mine and leave the rest. Imagine if it had a million lumens and you could focus that beam. You could probably blind people from miles away, lol.

  • @JeffThePoustman
    @JeffThePoustman 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    8:23 That spot is small, but is willing to travel for the job.
    Cute, I chuckled.

  • @GlyphZero
    @GlyphZero 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Frankenlight, how many pieces of different flashlights fit together and could that make a better flashlight?

  • @mr_knight4701
    @mr_knight4701 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hi body. witch flashlight is best zoomable flashlight?

  • @grahamcairns2249
    @grahamcairns2249 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Grsat vodeo. Thanks for putting up the money to show that looking for quality is best.

  • @Fantaman900
    @Fantaman900 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had forgotten my trustfire mc12 laying under a car and when I backed up I put a little dent in it. Eh the battery won't slide out but everything works just fine. I probably lose it before I need a new batterie. Also a great fan of nitecore flashlights. The ones I use are all small and turbo mode is just blindingly bright and 1 lumen low mode I perfect enough light to see in pitch black darkness to see where you going.

  • @TheVoiTube
    @TheVoiTube 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That 2:10 Blue battery has 2 batteries wrapped as one... you could cut them apart without risk, they are just joined with wrap.

  • @TsunauticusIV
    @TsunauticusIV 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    WE LOVE TTC! WOOOOOOOOO 🎉

  • @michaeljestice3895
    @michaeljestice3895 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It would be awesome to see you test large weapon lights, something like the Surefire HellFighter.

  • @dr.brysonsfamilymedicine2453
    @dr.brysonsfamilymedicine2453 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting as always.

  • @jasonhill9088
    @jasonhill9088 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Do you think you will ever test LEP Laser flashlights?

  • @rushinrio12
    @rushinrio12 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Please make more ball joint press test videos. I need to buy a new set and want your opinion on the current market offerings. Please include OTC and more affordable offerings as well as tool truck kits. Thank you for all the great work you do!

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Snap-On>>OTC=Astro>>everything else

    • @rushinrio12
      @rushinrio12 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TorqueTestChannel so if I don’t want to pay for snap on, OTC or Astro are good bets?

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rushinrio12 Yup!

  • @subby280
    @subby280 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is how investigavite journalism used to be. Thanks for the video!

  • @Daamen_Incorporated
    @Daamen_Incorporated 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You should try this with the tool brands 20v work lights (Milwaukee/dewalt)!!

  • @matthewmiller6068
    @matthewmiller6068 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It would be interesting to add color temperature to your tests, several of those look purple-blue instead of white to me

  • @c0pyimitati0n
    @c0pyimitati0n 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you recommend a great flashlight with a _wide_ beam? I ride a Onewheel and I often ride trails in the dark. I need a flashlight that isn't just a single bright hotspot. I need a super wide beam so the trail is lit evenly edge to edge.

  • @kctyphoon
    @kctyphoon 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really like the Wuben C3 flashlight. Bought 2 of them. Great bang for the buck IMO.

  • @user-rs4dt5mh9l
    @user-rs4dt5mh9l 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    finaly the video i have been waiting for

  • @Forge135
    @Forge135 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you guys figure out a way to compare the major tool brand work lights?

  • @Nostrite
    @Nostrite 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Strobe and SOS modes on flashlights are like the bottle opener of multitools 😂😂
    Gotta have them on every product to exist.

  • @Eric2300jeep
    @Eric2300jeep 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sweet vid! What 21700 cells do you guys recommend or link to that video? I've started picking up a brand of flashlight that you guys might find interesting. Nightwatch. I get them on Neals Gadgets. Crazy powerful lights for the price!! Shipping times suck lol

    • @barronhelmutschnitzelnazi2188
      @barronhelmutschnitzelnazi2188 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Molicel P42A or P45B. One has a bit more capacity(4200mah vs 4500mah) but the lesser one is half the price. Best 21700 batteries out there.

  • @DjkFarmdunn
    @DjkFarmdunn 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    ever seen LEP flashlights? should really give them a shotvid like to see how they measure

  • @kenabi
    @kenabi 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    my rule of thumb is simple, ~1200 max out of a well made light using quality single 18650s. with an average of around 5-600 for cheaper ones, _at best_. more likely to find ~300 or less.
    the higher they jack the lumens up, the lower i'd rate it for actual.

  • @Risen_Q
    @Risen_Q 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I found this channel from that OG flashlight video. Was deer hunting season, and one we shot ran into the back woods at closing on a rainy day. After trying to navigate dark, rainy woods with a AA powered flashlight out of a horror game, I decided it was time for something that would turn that woods into day. That Goreit while specs are massively false advertised is a pretty badass flashlight. I got 3 of the older versions and 1 of the new ones. Plus the interstate sleeper you tested. Love the videos.

  • @1lumen
    @1lumen 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Nice! We've done almost 700 flashlight reviews so far, and could easily tell those to be exaggerated ;) 1,000,000 lumens... :D The brightest top 5 together don't even come close to 1 million lumens.

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Shout out to 1lumen!

    • @1lumen
      @1lumen 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TorqueTestChannel thank you!

  • @failsworth655
    @failsworth655 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I recently bought a Wuben from Amazon and it's really well built and bright.

    • @joeschmo622
      @joeschmo622 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Wubens are great hardware but usually have a brain-damaged UI. If I could change the UI to something less mental, I'd love 'em, but in almost all cases, I sold / gave away most of my Wuben lights.

    • @failsworth655
      @failsworth655 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@joeschmo622 Yeah the UI is insane. It took me forever to get it to the mode of operation I wanted.

  • @edwardmonsariste4050
    @edwardmonsariste4050 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have a left field request:
    Could you test oil filter socket wrenches?
    I have purchased a couple of brands, and I still haven’t found one that doesn’t slip on the flutes.

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But the one the dealerships use.

  • @danielc6034
    @danielc6034 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you can get it, the G500 long flashlight (KS--G500H). Got mine for £30, rated sensibly at 20k lumens but does out perform my modded fenix tk75.
    Has to be the one with zig zag blue light around buttons. The other one I got is plastic rubbish.

  • @tom314
    @tom314 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think i'll stick to my old ryobi battery car vac with a car headlight projector mounted inside when I need a bright torch, it's somewhat bigger and less robust but it actually produces a useful amount of light (a bit like a car's headlights really 🤣).

  • @thorsten5052
    @thorsten5052 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    When will the manufacturers of third party flashlights finally learn that if there is a stepped button, they should start with the lowest brightness and not the highest.

  • @ekojar3047
    @ekojar3047 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If I get a 1 lumen flashlight, watch it actually be 1 trillion lumens 😂

  • @halozeus3844
    @halozeus3844 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm looking for a lantern/night fishing light just to light up around us and also a direct spotlight used to get the brightest direct beam any suggestions? I'm not looking at spending a bunch maybe $120 for both

    • @matthewwimpey7220
      @matthewwimpey7220 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I use the dewalt work like it works great for me but I already have a bunch of batteries lol

  • @drewrinker2071
    @drewrinker2071 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm surprised by the first one that you tested as I have that one and it's pretty bright and it came with the bigger 26650 cell. It seems like it's at least 1000 lumens if not more, it's running cree xhp70.

  • @BigBear--
    @BigBear-- 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There are plenty of quality flashlight brands to choose from that both have inexpensive options as well as the more high performance, more durable, and more expensive options.
    Few that come to mind:
    NiteCore
    OLight
    Streamlight
    Surefire
    Sofrin
    Fenix Lighting
    There's a few more that I always brain fart on remembering. But those are all great options to start with.

  • @scrotiemcboogerballs1981
    @scrotiemcboogerballs1981 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Always a great video thanks for sharing