From the Adventures In Card Dealing: A Time When I Got Really Angry From a Card Deal
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Chris Sewell here - baseball card collector, Investor, dealer, old woman shed cleaner, in that order.
This comment tho yes! It always sound like he was saying Crystal and i know thats not his name but no matter how many times i hear it that's what it sounds like.
Lol lol
You cleaned out the shed for her. She got what she wanted. 🤣🤣
Women usually do!
Chris the type of guy that even when he gets mad, he is still polite. The hobby needs more people like him.
no i have negotiated with him... chris is a over grown man child. he gets mad alot XD
$2K was a generous offer considering the amount of work you would've had to put into the deal, plus she would get a cleaned-out shed. Kudos for keeping your composure until you were out of earshot.
Those cards are still sitting in that shed. Why wouldn't you just take the money. She's one of those that thinks their junk is worth millions.
I'm calling bs. I don't believe for a second with your demeanor that you can get angry, even your impression of you angry shows that there's just no way you can physically show frustration. Love the videos!
Haha! Its rare but it does happen :)
I can sit and listen to your card stories/journey all day long! Love these types of series. Ty sir
When you said you'd really gotten angry I thought you were going to say that whilst suffering from heatstroke you grabbed the old lady in a head lock and then piledrived her into a case of 91 Fleer. Just kidding.
Ha ha ha Classic
Judging by her non reaction I'd say she was lying and was hoping to stick this junk on someone. I think $2000 was quite high for the time.
Yep the dealer who stored it with her probably already told her its real value.
Chris, your professionalism is second to none! I thought you were going to say she made you put all the cards back in the shed!
I wouldn't have been as cool as you were. It sounds like she was trying to sell crap and knew she had no 80's BBall cards! Love the stories, love the channel! Cheers buddy.
That’s what I was thinking to. Lol
Hot weather gives me a short fuse also!
I could spend hours listen to your dealing stories.
same bro
The less than ideal environment inside a stifling shed would have probably ruined all those cards to begin with. You were better off without them.
Exactly, those would be bricks all stuck together, I wouldn’t have offered near that much.
I really enjoy your stories. You are putting together a wonderful Library of experiences for future generations of Sewalls'.
The only reason I can think that she wouldn't counter-- in her mind she didn't trust / believe you guys. Whoever she acquired the cases from probably told her they were worth a lot more. Clearly she didn't know what she had, which was a mountain of common junk wax.
This is a thoughtful response . In my experience , you just never know what maybe in someone’s mind or if you are at all on the same page as them. She was probably hoping for way more and just thought a huge counter would have been embarrassing or something
Yeah, thats a good point. There was very possibly the situation.
Makes you wonder how many other people went through the same thing.
I would imagine that it would take quite a bit to get you riled up!!! Thanks for sharing
Also, the world needs a baseball or sports card museum , and the world needs you Chris!!!
The cards also may have been damaged. Heat and humidity makes bubble gum melt and stain the cards.
This is what I was expecting. All that wax in an unventilated shed in California for 30 years.
They are all probably damaged. They would have had to open 1 or 2 sample cases and sample boxes to see.
You offer was super generous! Good thing that's a more rare experience. Thanks for sharing, Chris!
Well said. And a very generous offer considering the work you'd put in selling
I think y’all handled it the best way possible. It’s like a thrift shop near where I live. They somehow acquired a football helmet from some golf tournament that was signed (before I go on, warren moon was the only autograph on there that was the best) and since the helmet had no COA, I kindly but firmly explained that I (or any buyer) would have to get all these signatures authenticated to which she said “oh no, this helmet doesn’t NEED a COA because it came from (insert golf tournament name here) and it’s worth a ton” and she ended up saying $200 so i said ok. We get to the cash register and she said “ya Know what. I made a mistake. I’ll need at least 1k for for it” I laughed out loud and left. But was pissed OFF. Not because i didn’t get it but because it was so childish and disrespectful
That’s extremely frustrating. I wish you’d make more of these videos my friend. I absolutely love them and have already seen every single one on the playlist lol can we make this a weekly or bi weekly thing?
Thank you! I appreciate that
Your a natural story teller, interesting all the way. Most of us would have been just as upset or more so. Your offer was more than fair and she might have done you a favor not countering since the profit would be too low for the work/time involved. Since watching your vlogs I have regained interest in baseball card collecting. Take care and keep up the good work.
Awesome to hear this story again. I'm actually originally from Ventura, CA, right below Santa Barbara on your route :)
Love hearing the stories. Thanks for sharing. 👍
I would be scared if you ever got angry. I agree with you Chris, seller should have had a price
Holy crow , BUSTS out the Hemsworth beard….. NICE WORK SIR
I probably would have blown up the shed with the lady in it. Lol.🤣🤣
Bro you are sooooo undermining the drive, as someone who lived in Newport Beach, and not to mention “The 405” or “The 5”
but then you got the dreaded “The 101”…..the drive is a root canal……I was a Regional Director for Clothing Stores called Tillys…..I have spent years on those freeways bro…..I have been a long time subscriber, I love your stories….such a big fan bro
So true about the drive!!
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so you were sweatin in the hot box like cool hand luke
My and Cool Hand Luke have a lot in common
@@collectorinvestordealer what you had there with that woman, was a failure to communicate
I've often heard the saying... A good story is better than a good time!🤣 you didn't have a very good time, but we got a very good story!
My guess is she thought you were lying. Likely thought you were trying to scam her.
I’ve been subbed to you since maybe 5k. Been enjoying watching your channel and the stories/RR/HR videos !
1987 Fleer Basketball boxes/cases are rare. BBCE will pay massive premiums for it especially from sealed cases. 91 is still cool there are plenty of Jordans here.
Great story. Your patients are unmatched!
The funniest one is when the guy called the cops 👮♀️
Excellent and handled like gentleman
LAME! That’s super frustrating man, and just really inconsiderate - and confusing! Just, why would she even do that? On behalf of Santa Barbara, I apoplogize lol
If you ever need a local to check something out up here, I’d been happy to take a look/send info. Also, if you ever pass on something interesting up here I’d love to know about it, and of course figure out any kind of “finder’s fee” that seems fair.
Thanks for sharing! I love all your adventures in baseball/sports cards 👍🏽
I agree 100% with the same reason that you were mad. I think that she wanted an appraisal and the two of you spent valuable time. Personally, I think you were better off without the junk wax. Also, I wondered if you put all the cards back or did you leave them in the yard?
We put them all back (we organized it in a way from the beginning so that it would all end up back in the shed)
Love the stories...thanks!!
I have a shit ton of unopened wax boxes and cases. I'm feeling attacked! lol
I been on those runs. Most times it is junk….the one time when you find a diamond in the rough makes it all worth it
This brings me back to when I dabbled in the moving business for two years. People constantly misstate exactly how much they have. I started insisting on photos and detailed itemization. Otherwise you are not the customer I am looking to work with. Same applies here.
agreed, why even drive 2 hours without a simple pic of the fleer bk case? lol
I love all of your adventures of card dealing stories 🙂
Awesome. Love the stories, keep them coming 😁
The lady was thinking 🍭s
I totally get your frustration in those circumstances; after all that you and Jeremy went through she could have at least had the respect to have counter offered!! Now, I can’t wait to hear the story of the Arizona/Texas snowman getting upset - he seems like the most chill, laid back dude ever! But, then again I could have said the same thing about you and you even lost it once 🤣🤣
Just another great video. Love this story!
So basically she lured you out there to appraise her junk wax case collection
A lot of people got burned that way by the junk wax era. It was the perfect storm of growth in interest in the hobby, price appreciation, and Beckett monthly telling everyone there were "$100+ cards" readily available to be pulled from $1 packs that were available basically everywhere.
Very appropriate response - well expressed once off the property.
I woulda said, 'can you take pictures of the boxes' before going out there.
I have been a prepper for decades; I actually sold a lot of cards back in the late 80's to buy weapons. Around 2017 I figured I am set on the knowledge and supplies and got back into collecting sports cards. I was shocked at all the new product and didn't know what the high-end cards were, but I figured it out quick enough watching the prices on eBay. I bought thousands of Mahomes RC's and retired early off the sales last year. I watched your videos from the start along with others just to get a feel for the market and when to sell. This video where you got mad is funny in many ways. I watch and argue on the prepper videos way more than the sports card hobby and my big sticking point with preppers is all their bugging out videos and community prepping. If SHTF, they aren't going anywhere, and hundreds of alpha males armed to the teeth living together might last 2 days, lol. It's common for exertion and heat exposure compounded with frustration to bring out the worst in people. It's easy to make a plan in the air-conditioned rooms at home, well fed and no lack of sleep, lol. If SHTF, I'll give the human species 20 days tops, before they start eating each other to stay alive. Day 20 without food is when the higher functions of the human brain start shutting down and cannibalism begins.
Great video. Would love to see you make a video on how you prepare, list and market lots on ebay efficiently.
I'm sure you guy's weren't the first dealers looking st these boxes. I would've passed as soon as I heard they were outside in a shed .
My thoughts exactly. The cases were likely "bricked" in that heat
You handled that 100 times better then I would have. I think I’m more annoyed just hearing this story then you were having gone through it 😅
I would have demanded an explanation for not having the boxes she said she did AND demanded hearing a price she was looking to get.
……then cussed her out for wasting my time and money driving there 😁
The heck with making an offer. I would've given the woman a bill to pay for my time and energy spent because of her lies or at least lack of expertise. Chris,you're a true gentleman
dude.. you´re so easy going... i could never imagine of you screaming hahahah
If you were in South Texas going thru boxes in our heat....you may have picked up a felony that day
Learning point is to educate the seller on why you are offering so low before you make the offer as to not insult them.
Great story, Chris! LOL - I’m wondering if those cases are still sitting in that shed 🤔
Great story man. New subscriber here. Great channel!!!!!
Welcome to the channel!
Can't help thinking she had a stash of big stuff hidden in the house somewhere and was trying to move on everything else..
Absolutely you have every right to be pissed. I would have reacted much differently to her and explained exactly what she put you through using you as a price guide basically. Wasting your time, gas money and getting your hopes up.
I may have reacted the same way. I have a tendency to lose it sometimes.
Plot twist, she had all the 86,87 and 88 basketball cases in the house.
Great story.
You could do these videos every day and would be thrilled to watch them. I always like the 1991 Fleer Football. The RC inserts were tough to hit. I always looking for the Bettis and Natrone Means insertswithdrawals
I have had this happens quite a few times . Most times it has been elderly women (some of it seemed to stem from Loneliness and some from a complete lack of understanding of the actual value of the product ) . With the advent of social media and online selling platforms this has increased. The fortunate element is it’s not a 2 hour drive each way plus 2 hours of labor. It’s usually a few messages back and Forth and quickly you can see there is no light at the end of this tunnel .
You had the right to be angry. My worst card deal was back around 2000. It was an online trade on a popular sports card website. The guy I traded with claimed to own the largest Jeremy Bonderman collection on earth. I posted 2 Babe Ruth authentic bay cards, he offered to trade a nm 1957 Topps set, but the mantle was poor condition. He sent some images of the other cards, that were not his actual set. I agreed to the trade, and the 1957 was in poor condition, the entire thing. He ghosted me when I complained, and he was a moderator on the site, so they just blindly took his side.
Even in today's market, $2K is a generous offer.
for 100 cases? thats like 1 dollar a box or 3 cents a pack.. would be worth at least 10k or more even as clean out my shed deal.
To be perfectly honest, I think I would've said to her something along the lines of "If you didn't actually have an interest in selling these cards, why did you invite us out here?" Because if she didn't have a counter, then she clearly wasn't selling.
You guys should have a card buying show where you went all over the country I think that would be worth watching
Storytime again guys!! Yes!!
I drove to a deal 1 hour away after agreeing to a price only for him to back out, had a bunch of vintage and 4 1989 UD Griffey’s, didn’t buy them and left very pissed. Same thing, acted like she wanted to clean out space but then tried to hustle me. That is the worst thing in the card business
You had every right 2 get upset ..I am going 2 be sending you some very nice stuff very soon . I trust you & I don't even know you. I just get good vibes from you
I wouldn’t have offered $200 for that crap. At that time, those boxes were still easily accessible for very short money (everyone’s looking to dump them).
Great story. And a good lesson that reminds people, treat people with respect and decency. This includes respecting peoples' time and following a selling etiquette that respects buyers and potential buyers. An easy way to build a bad reputation quickly if one is buying and selling things is to disrespect one's customers like this couple did to you guys, which involved potentially knowingly false-advertising, not counter-offering after all your work, and being very dismissive of you guys.
You guys should have just burnt the whole shed down after all that!!🤣😂 one shed less filled with junk wax era cases could possibly help the value on everyone else's childhood cards🤔
Good way to get arrested for arson, but otherwise a good idea.
The "GOOD OLD STUFF"!!!!
Whenever an owner makes a claim that triggers travel of some kind, you’d think sharing a few photos of said inventory would be a reasonable thing before such an investment of time. Sorry, Chris - but thanks for sharing!
Hopefully you left the boxes outside the shed for them to put back themselves. That would have made me feel a little better.
Great story Chris! I'd scream too lol
I was meeting a guy to look over a collection for a proposed sale. Apparently lots of graded stuff. 3 hour round trip. I arrived and nobody was home. Called his cell and no answer. I waited in the driveway for close to 45min and finally left. Left a voicemail telling the guy I waited. I got an angry voicemail back the next day telling me how I'm unprofessional all I had to do was wait. I was then blocked via phone and social media but not before he posted on several message boards telling people I could not be trusted..some people.....some people...
I hate people
After the counter I might have asked her how she came up with the years she was claiming she had. She obviously knew what she had and obviously manipulated the situation to get peeps out there. Clever girl. I would’ve been pissed to Chris.
Chad was thinking the exact same thing
I think you dodged a huge bullet not purchasing those cases even with today high prices. But would have been very frustrating. I’ve dealt with buying huge collections. They’re always picked through.
For $2000 she should have gave u the actual shed with the cards. Lol I wish I had that same level of anger management 🙃
In short.....I'd been upset too. It's similar to your parents telling you we're going to the circus this weekend, and then at the last moment you are told we aren't going after all.
man that is one the main reasons what i dislike about the hobbys are the transactions except when it happens to me its vice versa. In my experience the as a seller the buyer would ask what price iam looking for and, after giving a number they would make reason why its not worth that amount. However they would not give an offer and expect me to just keep dropping the prices. it should go both ways
I would of left all the boxes outside of the shed, she can put them back in and understand how much work it was.... no offence but that's awful of her to do to someone.
Good video and story!! I feel your anger,not finding what seller said was there, dissatisfied to say the least. Time is money, but In the end, I think you dodged hard sell on your end. Junk wax, not worth it!!!
reminds me of how Micheal Scott yelled at Jan , " do you have idea how it feels to have 3 Vasectomies take a toll on my body?!!" ( the office) ....also I think they just bated people to see who would fall for the " ill buy it all " with no real winning cases , sad day in card history
If you left the cases out in the yard, that would have been some degree of karma due. 🤣
I have a similar story - I went to house a woman bought in an estate. She found a crap load of cards in binders that she wanted to get rid of. I went over there and of course they were picked through and mostly junk. However, to pad my collection of stars I made her a very nice offer for 3 binders for $50. Mind you, nothing really worth value at all. She turns to her boyfriend and he says "No" we will just keep them. Funny, the fact that they weren't even his to begin with. They got them for free. Come to find out I got a hold of the kids that sold the house when their Dad passed to them and they told me that, Ya.... They picked thru all the cards and took all of them away and left the crap cards behind because they didn't want to clean the house up and sold it "As Is". PS - They did sell some cards to me...The good ones.
to some people saying he lowballed her obviously havent bought out a lot of collections. .. 50 percent offers on cards I think is actually high.. now that you can make 15-25 bucks an hour at basically any job you have to factor in your time and selling fees as well.. any time i get push back on a deal i just remind them that they will be spending the next 4 months of weekends trying to sell their stuff on ebay and going to the post office every day... they then either take the cash or call me the next week begging me to haul it away..
Oh My !! What's the COMC Box Upper Left ?!?
I got really angry...having to listen to this story...🤣🤣🤣
Hopefully the fantastic story makes up for the pain that day! Good on you for sharing it, Chris. I’ve been waiting on this one since the AZ/TX Snowman mentioned it. So…if it were me, I’m not sure I would have offered anything. Would it have been just as rude/disrespectful/infuriating if the buyer made no offer and basically said ‘I think you should hold on to them’ to the woman?