I want you to sanction a hit on Chris Rock. He violated my wife’s honor. He made a very insensitive joke about her body to some friends of ours. Edit: It’s been a year since the slap and I still come back to read this dumb comment. Real lack of standards in our generation
+MyPWNisBlocked LittleCarmine is a moron. Carmine Sr invented point shaving, survived as the boss of a major family, and died in his sleep at home (not in prison). Seems like a shrewd guy to me
When Tony told Junior the joke he didn't think it was funny either...old school vs new school...Junior even told Tony that his generation had a real lack of standards
You can actually see Carmine's logical brain working. "Slept with wife" > "insulted wife to face" > "insulted wife behind back" > "told a single joke about wife at private mob gathering and somebody hated him enough to snitch" = couldn't possibly care less. It's literally an administrative matter to him, something to bring up at the next negotiation for a few extra points.
@Chethan M Naik With that hedgehog, John would have to pay Ralph a million. Then again, Ralph may like that since he spends his days fucking those fat pigs in the outer office at the carpenter’s union.
The point is Johnny Sac would actually kill someone for insulting his wife. While Tony probably wouldn’t if someone insulted Carm like that behind her back. John was basically a fun house mirror version of Tony.
This episode showed that Carmine was the best boss. Totally non emotional and doing whatever it takes for the sake of peaceful continuation of the business
I love the way Carmine takes an unhurried sip of coffee in the middle of the discussion - shows he is in charge and in total control of proceedings. He never raises his voice, gives his answers in a calm, measured manner. Authority and command in voice, gesture and response.
I just realized that this conversation not only shows that Carmine is a good boss, but also foreshadows that Johnny Sack wouldn’t be. He was way too emotional.
Your crazy son! tony soprano is a boss and he’s batshit insane don’t give me that shit! How do u explain tony bieng able to be a decent boss? Yet he’s insane! Johnny couid be a good boss just because there emotional don’t really determine if he’s gonna be a bad boss for sure because look at guys like tony he def was off yet pretty decent as a boss role Imo.
One of the best scenes. Carmine might have been more unintentionally funny than his son. Saying "Ralph slept with Ginny?" and "He wants to fuck her?" with that disgusted look on his face is already more of an insult than what Ralph said lol
I love how carmine doesn't even make an expression when hearing that joke. This is a man whos mind is 100% focused on making money, he doesn't have time to fool around mortals and their stupid jokes.
Doesn't matter if the joke's good or not. I would've laughed that the man came to me to complain about such nonsense. Hold in the laughter because this is business.
It was one of those “you had to be there” jokes. And regardless is Carmine thought it was funny or not, his underboss has a real grievance here, and Carmine, being the upstanding professional he is, knows that the comedic value of the joke is irrelevant, because it has upset an earner and a friend.
no. come on; the best part is when Carmine asks:" he wants to F her?" the Look, the tone, the timing I die laughing every time I see that. that is the best part of the entire show, all seasons combined.
paul patane lol....I highly doubt Johny gives a shit about $200k. He spent $475k (more or less) on his daughters wedding. Johny Sack knows that, if his wife could be made into a joke, it would not be long before he himself becomes a joke.
nodinitiative If Ralphie wasnt bringing in heavy points then Carmine wouldnt have cared about him or Johnny's reaction to the joke. Ralphie'd be gone. But hes an EARNER. So the answer had to be NO.
Love how the writers made Johnny repeat the joke a bunch of times and put a bunch of different guys in the situation where they had to restrain from laughing
You know damn well it took more than a few shots to get it right because they couldnt keep a straight face… Tony and Carmine when John told them and Paulie in jail when Little Paulie told him
I don’t think most of them are that amused after the first time they heard it. Especially not Carmine. You gotta remember half these conversations are about Johnny’s insistence to kill someone who makes them a *ton* of money, it’s hard to laugh at that point lmao.
@@synthmalicious7541oh come on.. When John breaks down the joke “the implication is that her ass is so big she can have a mole that size removed from it”, you picture Ginny bending over, bust out laughing
Mr 4K GaMeR Haha. It's like he was reacting just like most of the viewers. Thinking "You want this guy whacked, a great earner, over a joke like that?"
what gets me is that Carmine's responses insinuating she's actually fuckable. First asking if she got fucked by someone else and then asking if someone else wants to fuck her. Not sure if trolling or old age.
@@bacchusendo9032 lol that is also the way I took it. Almost underhanded here himself! Like saying "he actually wants to fuck her?", more or less 😂 Love this scene.
Vince Curatola delivered the clarification of the joke so perfectly after Carmine just stared in confusion. One of the funniest moments of the show in my opinion.
It's clever how the comic effect comes from the over-explanation of a punchline, which is usually the surest way to ruin a joke. Of course the line's delivery is great too--that triumphant but desperate little smile he makes, unwilling to accept the futility of his case... it always cracks me up
Ralph was crafty, using Seinfeldian observational style humor an old man like carmine wouldn’t understand. Had gone with the classic “Ginny is so fat…how fat is she?” formula he’d been a dead man
Carmine is such a machine that the joke had zero effect on him as he cares only about the bottom line-unlike Tony who very nearly burst out laughing when Johnny told him. Either way, the acting is top notch with one showing no emotion while the other has to convey wanting to laugh out loud but having to be tactful and diplomatic.
That's how a real boss acts.You don't sanction a hit on someone because they cracked a joke about your wife.If he sanctioned that then it would have been alot of dead gangsters.
@@bardavidtaxodysmas2212 no they aren't, they are evil selfish murderous cocksuckers. Carmine is more of a throwback to movie gangsters like the godfather. in reality, they are much more like tony and his crew
Pay attention--this is one of the most telling scenes in the whole series. It is a scene of contrasts--Carmine, the completely stoic and unemotional old school boss who is all business, and Johnny Sack, the future Mafia boss who lets his emotions control him and is willing to make bad decisions because of that flaw. Carmine's death marks a turning point in the series. When Johnny becomes boss, he put his lust for control over business, thereby marking the decline of both the Lupertazzi and the Soprano families. In some ways it is a metaphor for the Mob itself, since once the old school bosses like Carlo Gambino died off, the undisciplined bosses like John Gotti took over, and the Mob has never been the same since.
J.Sack was really old school that way. he loved his wife and didnt have a gummar on the side. him not taking the money shows how much he loved his wife and his family.other mobster would have sold theirs for half that summ.
@@GenosGlory True but John acted really childish and stupid about it. John was openly attracted to fat women and John I believe always felt Ralph was joking.He even admits Ralph was joking at one point. What John does to the innocent man he gave nerve damage and pissed on is the most piece of shit thing John does in the show.He should have been murdered for that alone. All of Tonys crew have piece of shit moments that they show.Bobby was by far the most honorable but he would do piece of shit things if his boss ordered him too. The difference is the others would do piece of shit things more naturally. Ralph had his horse intentionally premeditated burned alive for money.Even the Tracy murder wasnt premeditated or maybe even intentional.
I don't know what you mean with that .but you clearly dont understand nothing , always pretending to be the centre of the world . it Hurst so much to you that is not. this was about money and Johny sack honour ,not about the wife ,it was about that they insulted him , it's a thing of power it's about they dare to insult him. It's all about pride here , things that woman's doesn't understand to be honest.
I agree with Phatohobic but at the same time, I think it’s made clear as the thread of this plot line progresses that JS was genuinely angered over the woman he loved being insulted.
@@cornusia you're seeing too much under the water. Years passed and nobody disprespected John in his face. Every reaction of his concerning that joke was genuine anger about his wife, you can tell by looking at him in every scene
I'd say it really was about the wife considering that when he found out that she was breaking her diet he decided to forgive the whole thing because he believed she was genuinely trying her hardest to lose the weight in the first place and yet he accepted her for who she was all along but also thought that she was being unnecessarily picked on until he realized she truly wasn't putting the effort he thought she was.
EXACTLY! In John's mind, if Tony's crew is laughing at fat jokes about Ginny, it means they arent afraid of John and therefore dont respect him. Since he is New Yorks envoy for dealing with Tony's crew he has to be feared/respected to do business with them. This whole thing is about John asserting his position over Ralph and Tony.
@@hullbreach33 100%. All these people making out like its because he loved his wife more than anything. You can love your wife without wanting to kill someone who insults her behind your back!
+Young Bachelor Magazine Just Carmine. Everybody else were a bunch of cowboys. Carmine had to constantly remind everybody that we're all here to make money and not let stupid shit mess up a good thing. This, just another example.
Will smith: I want you to sanction a hit on chris rock Carmine: what are you fuckin kidding me? Will smith: he violated my wife’s honor Carmine: chris slept with jada?
People have copied the same sopranos inside jokes and I’ve laughed every time. You managed to be the only unfunny comment I’ve ever come across in this community. walk away now. Or suffer.
YUp. Mind you he says "there are millions of dollars at stake" TWICE. Once in two separate episodes. The other was at the sit down with 4 of them AND Junior listening in thru a burner phone.
Every single thing about this show was perfect. Every single character was totally 3 dimensional, with goals, conflicts, backstory, and relationships. From Tony to Carmine. Everyone had a purpose. Add the great writing, perfect acting, great use of music... I could go on. God, I miss this show.
Carmine showed good sense. Its all about business. As The Godfather would have said "Clipping Ralph is not justice. Your wife is not dead nor has she been physically attacked. We'll deal with it, but clipping? No way!"
Another Godfather quote relevant to this discussion: "I don't like violence. I'm a business man. Blood is a big expense". If you whack a made guy from another Family, a high earning capo no less, there better be a good reason. The fallout from a war could cost you more than those words cost John. We see in S6 how sick the NY guys are of Phil's war, even though it was much more justified at the beginning than this.
I love that look on Johnny Sack's face when Carmine asks him if Ralph slepted with Ginny, he's like "I won't even dignify that with a response" hahaha.
Carmine actually took a big risk on this one. Emotional or not, Johnny was one of his closest guys and very valuable to his organization. Johnny still felt insulted after this and was even planning to whack Carmine in the Season 4 finale before the hit was called off. Carmine dies of a stroke in the Season 5 premiere but if he'd lived I'm pretty sure Johnny would have ended up killing him eventually, especially once he had Phil backing him up. Why risk the loyalty of one of your closest guys just to protect a piece of shit like Ralph Cifaretto? Ralph was pretty much a dead man walking at this point anyway since he was making enemies left and right.
*"What did he say?"* *"Do I gotta repeat it?"* *"Not if you want him clipped."* *"He said...I can't wait to see you in GI Jane 2"* *"........."* *"The implication is her head is so bald she could play in that movie."*
This here, is the moment johnny sack becomes Will Smith. (I love how all the other sopranos fans are coming together to make this connection, very based.)
1:13. That moment when he slowly sips his cappuccino in total silence in response to Johnny's ranting and raving. He then slowly puts it down. No words. Total silence. You know shit's going to get real.
don't think you'd sip a cappuccino in a cup that small; its probably espresso. not saying this to be an ass but saying it as someone who recently discovered his addiction to cappuccinos. delicious.
Carmine is the only real boss on this show. Tony lips portrayal of him is so good you think that he was really a mob titan. Nobody casted better than David Chase.
+JimmyJam1125 Fuckin A, dude. I have no idea why Tony and Johnny Sack considered Carmine an idiot. The dude was all about business and didn't let his emotions get in the way. It's no surprise that things turned to shit as soon as John took over after Carmine's death (and then even worse with Phil).
They also implied that Carmine Sr. was an idiot when Tony referred to Little Carmine as "Brainless the Second". It was never verbalized maybe but Tony and Johnny Sack didn't really take him Carmine Sr. seriously.
I kinda disagree with that since Johnny Sack was ready to undermine Carmine Sr. by (almost) going thru with the Ralph Cifaretto hit, thereby directly disobeying Carmine's orders not to touch Ralph. Sack and Tony were inches away from whacking him if Tony hadn't backed out last minute. Don't get me wrong, I loved Carmine Sr, and I thought he was an awesome boss, I just don't think he was respected by Sack.
This is the difference between Johnny Sack and Carmine as Bosses. Carmine always acted like a ‘Boss’ and it created stability during his long reign. Johnny was always up and down as a Boss and his reign was always unstable, wasn’t as long and led to an eventual war after his departure.
Johnny was my absolute favorite. I always liked the new york crews better than the jersey guys anyway. Jersey was always too sloppy. Between the blabber mouths, the rats and the out of pocket moves everyone made, Jersey was a fucking mess. I fucking love this show.
NJ might have around 30 made man, it was implicated that NY have over 200 made man and probably over 1k associate. You cannot have a weak unprofeesional boss with that much member.
Carmine has a lot of redeeming traits within the group of bosses we’ve seen, his attention to business, professionalism, and subtle manipulation skills. But he’s got flaws such as his attitude towards building a tight and unified crew. Making an enemy out of john without even caring. And he almost got clipped for it. In general, he’s a better boss than Tony due to his increasingly erratic behavior, and we haven’t seen enough of Jackie, so Carmine is the best boss in the show but it’s not THAT far away from Tony (if you’d think so), but because of how long he was able to keep his position as a successful and respected boss, despite his lack of attention and friendship with his relationships. Brilliant show.
The best thing is Carmine's subtle smugness and underlying cynicism... the whole "Are you fucking kidding me?!" tone and look he gives Johnny tell a lot about his no-bullshit, fair but cold-calculating character.
that long pause when John yells at carmine and carmine takes his time to drink his espresso then answers is fierce. I sympathize with John on two levels 1. who doesn't want to defend their wife? 2. Ralph is the worst. However, this life not at all about loyalty and honour, it's about money at all costs. Rough.
John-My word’s not good enough? Carmine-Not if you want him clipped over it. That’s why he was my favorite Don on the show. Always pragmatic and focused on business without being emotional or careless.
“I’ll crack him good. I’ll ask for 200 grand.”
Carmine was the fucking man
What's next he can fuck her for a million?
He wants to fuck her 🤣🤣
That made me laugh so hard, for some reason. Like it was a parking ticket or something
Lmfao
200 grand for insulting a man’s wife? What’s next, he gets to fúck her for a million??
200k is a lot of money, especially 20 years ago. John should have taken it.
"Is it all just about money?"
The look on Carmine's face practically screams "Buddy, you're in the mob, of course it's all about money!"
Your =\= you're
"Again with the money?!"
"Yes, again with the money."
I love how carmine gave him a little spanking in front of everyone about naming a price or getting the fuck over it.
That's what I thought when Johnny said that
I love the reply "I'll crack em good, I'll ask for $200k" like fool it's all bout money 💰
I want you to sanction a hit on Chris Rock. He violated my wife’s honor. He made a very insensitive joke about her body to some friends of ours.
Edit: It’s been a year since the slap and I still come back to read this dumb comment.
Real lack of standards in our generation
What? Are you fucking kidding me?
@@bigfootwithinternetconnect2330 I have to repeat it???
What's next, Denzel? He gets to FUCK HER FOR A MILLION?!?!
Will Smith actually is carrying a 98-pound mole that is getting a free ride on his fame: Jada Pinkett Smith.
she's a filthy no talent hoor, totally deserved it and more.
I don't know how Carmine doesn't laugh at that joke. That alone makes him a boss.
agree
+MyPWNisBlocked LittleCarmine is a moron. Carmine Sr invented point shaving, survived as the boss of a major family, and died in his sleep at home (not in prison). Seems like a shrewd guy to me
When Tony told Junior the joke he didn't think it was funny either...old school vs new school...Junior even told Tony that his generation had a real lack of standards
Zia Combs - you dont get to run a successful New York mafia organisation for years, not get imprisoned or clipped, by being an airhead
Why are you dumbshit?
You can actually see Carmine's logical brain working. "Slept with wife" > "insulted wife to face" > "insulted wife behind back" > "told a single joke about wife at private mob gathering and somebody hated him enough to snitch" = couldn't possibly care less. It's literally an administrative matter to him, something to bring up at the next negotiation for a few extra points.
You can see how "old fish lips" could see every angle.
His thought process was "what is the most mature and dignified way to to say to this smuck that this is so fucking stupid."
Perfect breakdown, Feck. Perfect.
He’s deciding how much johns honor was wort to him. And apparently only 200k
This scene showcases Jons problems to control himself. Thats why he was an even worse boss than Tony. Too high strung
"Not if you want him clipped over it."
Carmine was a true boss.
$200K for a joke that Ginny never found out about? Take the money man.
What's next he gets to fuck her for a million?
Ginny can get Heavy!!
@Chethan M Naik With that hedgehog, John would have to pay Ralph a million. Then again, Ralph may like that since he spends his days fucking those fat pigs in the outer office at the carpenter’s union.
The point is Johnny Sac would actually kill someone for insulting his wife. While Tony probably wouldn’t if someone insulted Carm like that behind her back.
John was basically a fun house mirror version of Tony.
Agreed
This episode showed that Carmine was the best boss. Totally non emotional and doing whatever it takes for the sake of peaceful continuation of the business
RIGHTEOUS JONES He wants to fuck her?
Well said
Jackie was the best boss.
Tony the second best.
@@floydmoney8421 Do you think we saw enough of Jackie to make that judgement? And wasn't he only acting boss?
Tony wasn't the best boss, but not the worst. Carmine easily best out of the little bit we get to see of any of the bosses.
I love the way Carmine takes an unhurried sip of coffee in the middle of the discussion - shows he is in charge and in total control of proceedings. He never raises his voice, gives his answers in a calm, measured manner. Authority and command in voice, gesture and response.
I read authority as autority... I've been watching too much Sopranos
i thought he was doing that to choose his words carefully so as to be firm but not offensive
Carmeezy
That wasn't why he took a sip. He took a sip to buy himself some time to think, without looking weak.
I know the egg salad had more authority, if that's what you're referring to.
Johnny: "Paulie told me this"
Carmine: "Who?!"
Lol😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
"His father got run over by a trolley right?"
Lolll
Nicely done👍
I just realized that this conversation not only shows that Carmine is a good boss, but also foreshadows that Johnny Sack wouldn’t be. He was way too emotional.
How much will you ask for the same joke about your wife or daughter? ) stay not emotional)))
Your crazy son! tony soprano is a boss and he’s batshit insane don’t give me that shit! How do u explain tony bieng able to be a decent boss? Yet he’s insane! Johnny couid be a good boss just because there emotional don’t really determine if he’s gonna be a bad boss for sure because look at guys like tony he def was off yet pretty decent as a boss role Imo.
Like Tony says "Jon was a insecure guy."
You forget how Carmine acted on the golf course…
@@eldiko8929 You shouldn't be in leadership then
One of the best scenes. Carmine might have been more unintentionally funny than his son. Saying "Ralph slept with Ginny?" and "He wants to fuck her?" with that disgusted look on his face is already more of an insult than what Ralph said lol
Yup. But his delivery was on point and deadpan.. Tony Lip was a great actor. RIP legend
The implication that he'd consider whoring her out for a million was brutal, yeesh.
i don't think he was being unintentionally funny. His phrases and his delivery were meant to be insightful.
Fucking comedy bro
@@dagobert1234321 "You and Tony Lip again"
"Tony Lip? Tony B"
"he wants to f her?" Carmine always cracked me up, so old school.
that was wrong what he said
1:06
You can say fuck you know.
Alright let me get the fuck outta here
@@gabagoolenjoyer is that the only thing you noticed in that sentence or are you playing dumb?
I love how carmine doesn't even make an expression when hearing that joke.
This is a man whos mind is 100% focused on making money, he doesn't have time to fool around mortals and their stupid jokes.
Alex Le Idk I find it funny as hell
Doesn't matter if the joke's good or not. I would've laughed that the man came to me to complain about such nonsense. Hold in the laughter because this is business.
As old is he is
Alex Le it was an off coloured remark
It was one of those “you had to be there” jokes. And regardless is Carmine thought it was funny or not, his underboss has a real grievance here, and Carmine, being the upstanding professional he is, knows that the comedic value of the joke is irrelevant, because it has upset an earner and a friend.
I love how Carmine unintentionally keeps insulting Ginny more than Ralphie did
How did he insult her?
How did he insult her?
@@osamabad3597quiet Albert
@@osamabad3597his disgusted look and tone when he thinks Ralphie did something sexual with her. That’s what was pissing Johnny off more
@@retr0sfunkadelix okay, but it wasn’t an insult.
The best part is when Johnny has to explain the joke..."The implication being..."..lol
"a mole on her ass? What's the joke? I still don't get it!"
@@Snarkythecat "real lack of standards your generation..."
that eye twitch was amazing. His delivery was perfect. The casting in this series was perfect
Carmine's blank expression to Johnny telling him the joke gets me every fucking time
no. come on; the best part is when Carmine asks:" he wants to F her?" the Look, the tone, the timing I die laughing every time I see that. that is the best part of the entire show, all seasons combined.
200k for a fat joke. Carmine really offered a good solution,Johnny should've took the money and buried it in a CD for his daughter.
paul patane Johnny was easily offended like that
a dollar per lb!
paul patane lol....I highly doubt Johny gives a shit about $200k. He spent $475k (more or less) on his daughters wedding.
Johny Sack knows that, if his wife could be made into a joke, it would not be long before he himself becomes a joke.
nodinitiative If Ralphie wasnt bringing in heavy points then Carmine wouldnt have cared about him or Johnny's reaction to the joke.
Ralphie'd be gone.
But hes an EARNER.
So the answer had to be NO.
taken*
Love how the writers made Johnny repeat the joke a bunch of times and put a bunch of different guys in the situation where they had to restrain from laughing
You know damn well it took more than a few shots to get it right because they couldnt keep a straight face… Tony and Carmine when John told them and Paulie in jail when Little Paulie told him
To be fair I legit don't think carmine was amused. Or even saw this as a major issue. Dude seemed to think this whole thing was a waste of time
I don’t think most of them are that amused after the first time they heard it. Especially not Carmine. You gotta remember half these conversations are about Johnny’s insistence to kill someone who makes them a *ton* of money, it’s hard to laugh at that point lmao.
@@synthmalicious7541oh come on.. When John breaks down the joke “the implication is that her ass is so big she can have a mole that size removed from it”, you picture Ginny bending over, bust out laughing
0:42 he couldn't hold it
There was nothing he could do about it. Ralph was a made guy and Ginny’s mole wasn’t. It was among the Italians. Real Greaseball shit.
AHAHAHAHAH
Nice
Best use of that meme I have ever seen. Congratulations sir
Not only am I tried of seeing these same toy wot comments it makes me want to break someone’s fucking face; ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
Hahahaha
I cracked up at how Carmine looked at Johnny like that after hearing the joke. Like he was saying "Ok. And?"
lmfaoo hell yea that ways gets me as.many times as I've seen that episode
Mr 4K GaMeR Haha. It's like he was reacting just like most of the viewers. Thinking "You want this guy whacked, a great earner, over a joke like that?"
With those big fish lips of his
what gets me is that Carmine's responses insinuating she's actually fuckable. First asking if she got fucked by someone else and then asking if someone else wants to fuck her. Not sure if trolling or old age.
@@bacchusendo9032 lol that is also the way I took it. Almost underhanded here himself! Like saying "he actually wants to fuck her?", more or less 😂 Love this scene.
Vince Curatola delivered the clarification of the joke so perfectly after Carmine just stared in confusion. One of the funniest moments of the show in my opinion.
It's clever how the comic effect comes from the over-explanation of a punchline, which is usually the surest way to ruin a joke. Of course the line's delivery is great too--that triumphant but desperate little smile he makes, unwilling to accept the futility of his case... it always cracks me up
Lol. That stare is fuckin incredible. I couldn't agree more. I dunno why its so damn funny, but it is.
Ralph was crafty, using Seinfeldian observational style humor an old man like carmine wouldn’t understand. Had gone with the classic “Ginny is so fat…how fat is she?” formula he’d been a dead man
I think Carmine is usually serious, but I'm sure he's flatlining himself so he won't accidently laugh.
Carmine is such a machine that the joke had zero effect on him as he cares only about the bottom line-unlike Tony who very nearly burst out laughing when Johnny told him. Either way, the acting is top notch with one showing no emotion while the other has to convey wanting to laugh out loud but having to be tactful and diplomatic.
The fact that Johnny had to explain that joke to Carmine was priceless!
@Mike Hunt @MY CUNT LOL^^
Lol you could feel the tension when he had to explain it
And then Sac's expression after explaining the implication. Hahaha
It was the same when Tony told it to Junior
Yeah Junior didn't get it either. "Real lack of standards, your generation"
Carmine was a straight boss, love the sip of coffee before he sends Johnny away like a little kid, what are we in high school , he made a joke .
And you know that sip was on purpose to show how calm and relaxed he is.
That's how a real boss acts.You don't sanction a hit on someone because they cracked a joke about your wife.If he sanctioned that then it would have been alot of dead gangsters.
Oh yeah? I know that if someone would insult my gf or wife I'd brake a bottle of his head.
These are men
@@bardavidtaxodysmas2212 no they aren't, they are evil selfish murderous cocksuckers. Carmine is more of a throwback to movie gangsters like the godfather. in reality, they are much more like tony and his crew
I like how Carmine handled this discussion. He didn’t get mad and he didn’t apologize, but he stood firm on his answer.
Carmine was a true boss. He didn’t let feelings get in the way of business.
"Ralph slept with Ginny?"
chaosdecides 😂😂😂😂
LOL exactly
He wants to f*uck her?
Yeh, when she worked at the bing!
two guys can fuck her and still never meet
I love that line “I’ll crack him good” sounds great
me too.
i'll crack open that shinebox. make his shoes look like fuckin mirrors
How these two kept a straight face during this scene is beyond me.
Truly professional actors!
I know right? I can't watch more than 10 seconds without bursting out from this scene. It's just brilliant on so many levels.
I bet you it took a whole day of shooting just that scene because they probably cracked up every time
It's not even that funny of a joke.
Mature men don't laugh at childish jokes.
Pay attention--this is one of the most telling scenes in the whole series. It is a scene of contrasts--Carmine, the completely stoic and unemotional old school boss who is all business, and Johnny Sack, the future Mafia boss who lets his emotions control him and is willing to make bad decisions because of that flaw. Carmine's death marks a turning point in the series. When Johnny becomes boss, he put his lust for control over business, thereby marking the decline of both the Lupertazzi and the Soprano families. In some ways it is a metaphor for the Mob itself, since once the old school bosses like Carlo Gambino died off, the undisciplined bosses like John Gotti took over, and the Mob has never been the same since.
sheddin' a fuckin' tear ova here.
@@Shlogger 😭🤣
You know Quasimodo predicted all of this.
RICO is the biggest reason for the decline.
Smiling ur probably a cool dude but shut the fuck my man
"Again with the money?"
"Yeah, again with the money. It's settled John. So either name a price or get the fuck over it."
What r u a fucking parrot? Get over it
U sucks
+Muscle Man if ur mom onli did that ur miserable birth would have never been created
Steve Ricardo Hey some people out there ate stuffing themselves!
Steve Ricardo
One of the trucks...
Johnny sack explaining the joke is funnier than the actual joke at the time
Getting $200K for this is a pretty good deal, especially since Ginny doesn't even know that it was said.
Johnny was a fool on this issue.
J.Sack was really old school that way. he loved his wife and didnt have a gummar on the side. him not taking the money shows how much he loved his wife and his family.other mobster would have sold theirs for half that summ.
Comare*
@@GenosGlory Only Ralph was joking.John is reacting as if Ralph was being serious.
Dan Ralph always joked about stuff but he was a piece of shit anyway.
@@GenosGlory True but John acted really childish and stupid about it.
John was openly attracted to fat women and John I believe always felt Ralph was joking.He even admits Ralph was joking at one point.
What John does to the innocent man he gave nerve damage and pissed on is the most piece of shit thing John does in the show.He should have been murdered for that alone.
All of Tonys crew have piece of shit moments that they show.Bobby was by far the most honorable but he would do piece of shit things if his boss ordered him too.
The difference is the others would do piece of shit things more naturally.
Ralph had his horse intentionally premeditated burned alive for money.Even the Tracy murder wasnt premeditated or maybe even intentional.
Carmine's lack of reaction after Johnny Sack told him the joke... lmao
Johnny sack will remember that
It’s an off-color remark.
@@misterfrias it was highly inappropriate
You had to be there
Carmine thinking "you're making a mountain out of a mole."
That smirk at 0:43. Even Johnny Sack couldn't keep a straight face telling that joke
"He violated my wife's honour."
"Ralph slept with Ginny??"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
These poor mafia bosses and their (crew) babysitting issues 😁🤣😂
That might have been the funniest thing in the entire Sopranos series; "Ralph slept with Ginny?"
I don't know what you mean with that .but you clearly dont understand nothing , always pretending to be the centre of the world . it Hurst so much to you that is not.
this was about money and Johny sack honour ,not about the wife ,it was about that they insulted him , it's a thing of power it's about they dare to insult him. It's all about pride here , things that woman's doesn't understand to be honest.
@@Gunner192 I think the funniest line is shortly after. "He wants to fuck her?"
The real funny thing is that Johnny Sack actually thinks no one before made fun of his wife.
@@cornusia Yeah he just wanted to cement his position as a tough prick so he'd have no opposition as next boss. He even says it's his honor.
I agree with Phatohobic but at the same time, I think it’s made clear as the thread of this plot line progresses that JS was genuinely angered over the woman he loved being insulted.
@@cornusia you're seeing too much under the water. Years passed and nobody disprespected John in his face. Every reaction of his concerning that joke was genuine anger about his wife, you can tell by looking at him in every scene
Will Smith
I'd say it really was about the wife considering that when he found out that she was breaking her diet he decided to forgive the whole thing because he believed she was genuinely trying her hardest to lose the weight in the first place and yet he accepted her for who she was all along but also thought that she was being unnecessarily picked on until he realized she truly wasn't putting the effort he thought she was.
John's not worried about Ginny, he's worried about how much respect is given to him
you need to be respected to survive in the mafia
EXACTLY! In John's mind, if Tony's crew is laughing at fat jokes about Ginny, it means they arent afraid of John and therefore dont respect him. Since he is New Yorks envoy for dealing with Tony's crew he has to be feared/respected to do business with them. This whole thing is about John asserting his position over Ralph and Tony.
bingo
I think it goes a lil deeper than that. Fair points though
@@hullbreach33 100%. All these people making out like its because he loved his wife more than anything. You can love your wife without wanting to kill someone who insults her behind your back!
In retrospect, $200K could have helped Ginny during Johnny's incarceration or even his daughter's wedding expenses. #backup_plans
money would a been seized anyway
if they could trace it.
It would have helped her get rid of the 90 pound mole too
Johnny would have got 100k outta that tops...Carmine would have defo taken a slice
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Or could have paid off Sallie Mae!?
I'd let Ralph insult the shit out of my wife for 200k.
no shit
Me too.
Why would you say that? Why don't you tell us some more things you'll do for 200k?
that's an off coloured remark!!
+OriGinal Bosnian But Ralph isn't.
“Ralph slept with Jenny ???? ” that’s more insulting than anything lmao.
Ralph slept with Jenny? DISGUSTING 😂
The look of disgust on Carmine's face when he asks "Ralph slept with Ginny?" it was almost like he wanted to follow the question with "ewww"!
😅😅😅
Carmine Lupertazzi and Jackie Aprile were the best bosses, hands down.
Young Bachelor Magazine Then that two faced ungrateful fuck took the throne and the rest is history
Don't give me your fuckin Manson lamps
+Young Bachelor Magazine
Just Carmine. Everybody else were a bunch of cowboys. Carmine had to constantly remind everybody that we're all here to make money and not let stupid shit mess up a good thing. This, just another example.
I'm boss u
+Young Bachelor Magazine
Other than Carmine making an appearance in Tony's dream later on. Could have done without that.
Will smith: I want you to sanction a hit on chris rock
Carmine: what are you fuckin kidding me?
Will smith: he violated my wife’s honor
Carmine: chris slept with jada?
An Oscar for insulting my wife?! What’s next ?
He gets to FUCK HER FOR A MILLION ?!?!
😂😂😂😂
Good one!!
NO , But just cause Jada phuks my sons friends & got pregnant by him, it's still not as bad as being insulted by "This Ralph FN thief" lol
People have copied the same sopranos inside jokes and I’ve laughed every time. You managed to be the only unfunny comment I’ve ever come across in this community. walk away now. Or suffer.
"Ralph slept with ginny?" Lmfao
ltngirlll he wants to fuck her? Lmao
You’re so cute marry me
He was freak in a bed though so it could be possible 😆
Yeah, and he was wearing Christophers mothers muff on his head. Fkn prick!
Carmine has the best poker face ever...
No, Putin is NO. 1 😂😂
1:13 I always loved how he pauses, takes a sip, calmy sits the cup down before his final answer 🤣
YUp. Mind you he says "there are millions of dollars at stake" TWICE. Once in two separate episodes. The other was at the sit down with 4 of them AND Junior listening in thru a burner phone.
I love Carmine in the very beginning. "Are you fuckin' kiddin' me?"
it's peripheral scenes like this with peripheral characters that made The Sopranos the best show on television ever.
Well said
You have some low standards
Fuckin nauseating
Clearly you've never seen saved by the bell
Every single thing about this show was perfect. Every single character was totally 3 dimensional, with goals, conflicts, backstory, and relationships. From Tony to Carmine. Everyone had a purpose. Add the great writing, perfect acting, great use of music... I could go on. God, I miss this show.
1:06 ...absolute gold😂😂😂
Couldn't have sipped that espresso at a better time. Fantastic lighting too.
I ALSO LIKE THE COLOR OF THE WOOD IN THE BACKGROUND. VERY WOODISH.
The sounds of the city outside.
Perfect
@@CooManTunes very allegorical.
I heard that when Ginny Sack wears high heels, she strikes oil.
When ginny sack goes camping, the bears have to hide their food
@@dave123xxx when Ginny hauls ass she has to make two trips 🤣
@@dave123xxx HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
@@dave123xxx 😅😅....that joke always kills me!
A $200K tax on all of you who insulted his wife’s honor!
Carmine: "I'll crack him good."
Johnny: "How are you gonna do that?"
Carmine: "I'll have Ginny sit on him."
lmao
Carmine showed good sense. Its all about business. As The Godfather would have said "Clipping Ralph is not justice. Your wife is not dead nor has she been physically attacked. We'll deal with it, but clipping? No way!"
Justice is a myth in these circles, always has been
Ginny never even heard the joke and Ralph was always polite to her in person.
Another Godfather quote relevant to this discussion: "I don't like violence. I'm a business man. Blood is a big expense". If you whack a made guy from another Family, a high earning capo no less, there better be a good reason. The fallout from a war could cost you more than those words cost John. We see in S6 how sick the NY guys are of Phil's war, even though it was much more justified at the beginning than this.
i read that in a marlon brando voice. brilliant
If it was the Don's daughter, the assailant would die a painful death
"Ralph slept with Ginny?"
😂😂 Carmine is visibly disgusted at the thought
Never thought of it that way
Carmine should have said that he will crack him good and ask for Ralph’s shinebox on top of the 200k.
Exactly 😂
I dunno a 90 lb mole? Gotta be worth at least 5 shineboxes
Professional?! The hell you doing here?!
Yeah. Two hundred grand and shined shoes everyday.
@@bluesnake1713how about a million?
I love that look on Johnny Sack's face when Carmine asks him if Ralph slepted with Ginny, he's like "I won't even dignify that with a response" hahaha.
Carmine did the right thing. He could clearly see that Sack was acting off of emotion, and that's never good for a man in power.
Yeah....if u ever notice that the real top guys are like that....kinda like Paulie in Goodfellas....calm, calculating...but a G nonetheless
Carmine actually took a big risk on this one. Emotional or not, Johnny was one of his closest guys and very valuable to his organization. Johnny still felt insulted after this and was even planning to whack Carmine in the Season 4 finale before the hit was called off. Carmine dies of a stroke in the Season 5 premiere but if he'd lived I'm pretty sure Johnny would have ended up killing him eventually, especially once he had Phil backing him up. Why risk the loyalty of one of your closest guys just to protect a piece of shit like Ralph Cifaretto? Ralph was pretty much a dead man walking at this point anyway since he was making enemies left and right.
@@silversnail1413 ralph was by far the best earner
Agreed
John was a terrible boss. But great underboss.
"My estimation of will smith as a man, just fucking plummeted"
Hilarious
Will Simp
Carmine was a great boss. He knew John was acting on emotion, and that's never good for a man in his position.
"I'll crack em good " Love it.
“Ralph slept with Jenny?” -one of the best responses in sopranos history.
Ginney
I love this scene, it’s got it all, fantastic acting, alternative humour, dark drama this is a perfect moment in a brilliant show.
Don’t you laugh though
What a great scene by both actors. The way Carmine sips his coffee considering his next move. Zero F's given.
*"What did he say?"*
*"Do I gotta repeat it?"*
*"Not if you want him clipped."*
*"He said...I can't wait to see you in GI Jane 2"*
*"........."*
*"The implication is her head is so bald she could play in that movie."*
"It's an off-color remark. It was highly inappropriate. If you want, I'll demand he doesn't host next year. But clip him?" *shakes head*
0:38
Carmine's face makes me laugh everytime.
It's almost as if his facial expression is saying "Are you fucking serious."
"It's an off colored remark..." lol
Al Cabone “well that’s uh....deplorable!”
It was highly inappropriate.
It's not important, let's just agree it was unkind.
The point is that it's the wrong word
When Carmine genuinely thinks for a second that Ralph slept with a Ginny😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Everytime it gets me 😭😂😂😂😭😂
😂
It’s always amazed me how the writers were able to inject comedy into really serious scenes without being hokey.
The entire facial expressions of Carmine during this talk are freaking hilarious.
After Johnny tells the joke he is like: Fuck contain the laughter contain it.
Him and those fishlips
This here, is the moment johnny sack becomes Will Smith.
(I love how all the other sopranos fans are coming together to make this connection, very based.)
Difference is John had a good wife.
@@Papa-ju4bb You said it 👏
1:13. That moment when he slowly sips his cappuccino in total silence in response to Johnny's ranting and raving. He then slowly puts it down. No words. Total silence. You know shit's going to get real.
He's not ranting or raving
don't think you'd sip a cappuccino in a cup that small; its probably espresso. not saying this to be an ass but saying it as someone who recently discovered his addiction to cappuccinos. delicious.
Carmine is the only real boss on this show. Tony lips portrayal of him is so good you think that he was really a mob titan. Nobody casted better than David Chase.
+JimmyJam1125 Fuckin A, dude. I have no idea why Tony and Johnny Sack considered Carmine an idiot. The dude was all about business and didn't let his emotions get in the way. It's no surprise that things turned to shit as soon as John took over after Carmine's death (and then even worse with Phil).
+pavel brodskiy It's Little Carmine Jr., Carmine's son that Tony and Johnny Sack considered an idiot, not Carmine Sr.
They also implied that Carmine Sr. was an idiot when Tony referred to Little Carmine as "Brainless the Second". It was never verbalized maybe but Tony and Johnny Sack didn't really take him Carmine Sr. seriously.
Disagree. Carmine was The Boss. Who was treated 100% seriously by Tony and even by underboss Stack.
I kinda disagree with that since Johnny Sack was ready to undermine Carmine Sr. by (almost) going thru with the Ralph Cifaretto hit, thereby directly disobeying Carmine's orders not to touch Ralph. Sack and Tony were inches away from whacking him if Tony hadn't backed out last minute. Don't get me wrong, I loved Carmine Sr, and I thought he was an awesome boss, I just don't think he was respected by Sack.
Johnny damn near laughed at the joke himself when he explained it to Carmine 😂😂
I love how the old timers like Carmine and Junior didn't get the joke at all!
Oh, they got it. They just can't laugh or react as angry as Sacks. Cold and calculating. Carmine is just waiting like, "... yeah, and?"
“ Is it all about money?“ answer is yes... Jonny should have known that.
That was some stupid sshit johnny said.. Well Johnny is it al about clipping guys??? .. Same sshit
Carmine's feigned cluelessness against Johnny's rage is hilarious.
We all sat there ready to burst with Carmine... but he stayed poker face. True G
This is the difference between Johnny Sack and Carmine as Bosses. Carmine always acted like a ‘Boss’ and it created stability during his long reign. Johnny was always up and down as a Boss and his reign was always unstable, wasn’t as long and led to an eventual war after his departure.
Will Smith at the Oscars 2022
haha i knew someone else was thinking the same thing
Johnny Sack: My word's not good enough?
Carmine: Not if you want him clipped over it!
“Is it all about money?”
“Fam, what do you think we’re here for?”
0:03 when i watched the many saints of newark
That's the movie. The movie I went to hell for.
Title should be changed to "Johnny Sac thinks he's Sir Walter Raleigh"
Johnny was my absolute favorite. I always liked the new york crews better than the jersey guys anyway. Jersey was always too sloppy. Between the blabber mouths, the rats and the out of pocket moves everyone made, Jersey was a fucking mess. I fucking love this show.
jokey
Darryl Paramore It's like NY said, the New Jersey "family" is nothing but a glorified crew.
Darryl Paramore I'm sure Coco didn't think they were a glorified crew when Tony went to NY and bashed his face and teeth in.
Robert Fernandez or when fat dom got done like a fat pig LOLOL
NJ might have around 30 made man, it was implicated that NY have over 200 made man and probably over 1k associate. You cannot have a weak unprofeesional boss with that much member.
Carmine has a lot of redeeming traits within the group of bosses we’ve seen, his attention to business, professionalism, and subtle manipulation skills. But he’s got flaws such as his attitude towards building a tight and unified crew. Making an enemy out of john without even caring. And he almost got clipped for it. In general, he’s a better boss than Tony due to his increasingly erratic behavior, and we haven’t seen enough of Jackie, so Carmine is the best boss in the show but it’s not THAT far away from Tony (if you’d think so), but because of how long he was able to keep his position as a successful and respected boss, despite his lack of attention and friendship with his relationships. Brilliant show.
The best thing is Carmine's subtle smugness and underlying cynicism... the whole "Are you fucking kidding me?!" tone and look he gives Johnny tell a lot about his no-bullshit, fair but cold-calculating character.
"We bend more rules than the Catholic Church." Golden line!
“Not if you wanna clipped over it” classic line!!!!! The best!!!👍👍👍
that long pause when John yells at carmine and carmine takes his time to drink his espresso then answers is fierce. I sympathize with John on two levels 1. who doesn't want to defend their wife? 2. Ralph is the worst. However, this life not at all about loyalty and honour, it's about money at all costs. Rough.
1:05
0:34 HAHA Carmine definitely wanted to laugh there. He was probably thinking "LOL that's not even the worse thing I've said about her in the past".
I laughed more at Sack elaborating the joke to Carmine than I ever did at the joke itself.
John-My word’s not good enough?
Carmine-Not if you want him clipped over it.
That’s why he was my favorite Don on the show. Always pragmatic and focused on business without being emotional or careless.
The way he says ‘but clip him?’ and then waves his head to say no, so calm and composed.
The look on Carmine's face after Johnny told the joke. "Is this fckin guy serious ?? "🤣🤣
thats me
John
John Sacrimoni I like thick women too John
Richie Aprile - don't you compare yourself with John you low-life. John was an honourable man and had great respect for his wife.
He wants ta fak ah?
How did john a TH-cam account hes been dead before TH-cam
@@williammckenzi5885 TH-cam started in 2005, John died in 2007 (no idea what year that was in the show)
I'll crack him good, I'll ask for 200 grand. Carmine was definitely the best boss.
Johnny "is it all just about money?"
Carmine in his head "wtf John are you new here? Of course its all just about money!"
That sip of the cup......basically telling Johnny Sack 'You're wasting my time.' Classic.
"Are you fuckin kiddin me?"
This is arguably the funniest scene in whole series
Johny Sack is TRIGGERED
Oh yeah.
Mr. Sack has left the safe space..