Great looking VND. I switched to a VND a few years ago for my landscape photography and have no plans on going back to 100mm squares. I shoot the Sony A1 and GM glass so have high demand for image quality. I have a $2500 LEE kit on CL for $399 as I don't want to carry around and work with that stuff any more. VND is King IMHO😎👍 Not only is the image quality holding up, but I get the shot I am looking for more often as it is much more fluid to rotate another ½ stop than change filters.
I've warmed up to VNDs for sure ... they've come a long way since the cringeworthy days of horrid X patterns and harsh vignetting. I love them for filming and B-roll. Handy for more rapid handheld photography, too. For my hardcore landscape still work, I'm still attached to my Haida M10 holder system :)
I added a K&F Concept combined VND/CPL to my kit nearly a year ago. I can confirm that this set-up is much more convenient and less bulky than using a square filter system, and it has similar benefits vis-a-vis separate circular NDs (incl VNDs) and CPLs. It has become my default filter for landscape photography involving long hikes. I still use my square filters when I'm settling into a longer or more involved landscape session, or want the option of adding a graduated ND to the mix. The K&F version looks very similar to the Haida offering. The K&F version was less expensive than the Haida prices you mentioned, but that was a while ago so they may now be more similarly priced.
I just purchased this filter and it does still get the x pattern to some degree. I used it on a 24-105 and got uneven exposure with darker and lighter sections of the image. You noticed them when rotating the CPL. I only bought this for video when shooting on the ocean which makes the uneven exposure even worst.
I have a Black Magic 4K, so I will need an IR cut filter. Does the cut filter go before the ND filter (before as in closer to the camera lens)? This Haida has two thread sizes, so I am trying to figure out what IR Cut thread size I need.
Great explanation with minute details, just a question if you set VND first then after you adjust polarization, will that not cut the light further under exposing the shot for which ideally we will have to compensate in camera? Does is show vignetting if used with with 14-16mm focal lengths?
Polarization usually cuts some amount of light, 1 to 1.5 stops, depending on the filter. Final exposure settings need to consider both the ND and the polarizer. You could compensate in camera or readjust the VND. I can't speak to the 14-16mm lenses... I don't have one of those.
@@ScottDavenport someone mentioned that it is threaded..but you have to go up a size?..for example the Haida is 77mm but whatever you put in front has to be 82mm?..is this correct?..if so that sucks now people have to buy a size higher on like a "mist" filter even though they have a 77mm thread size already ..haha
Does the VND start at 0 and then jump to 3? I’m wondering if I could use this just for the CPL for when I don’t need the VND. It would be handy to keep this filter on all the time and then use the VND when needed.
It’s a nice VND/CPL combo. But how can one use this with a small size mini matte box such as the Tilta and Smallrig…especially with the VND control stick sticking out so long? I did try out the K&F version and the adjustment was quite restrictive. I’m sure this would be no different.
Rather than cutting the lever, I’d remove the lever entirely and use a safety pin or similar tool to adjust the VND. The pointy end of a pin should fit the hole that the lever screws in…. Enough to rotate it.
Hi Long ... You can adjust the VND with one hand by gently setting the VND using the small handle. The polarizer will stay in place. If you push the handle to the 3ND or 7ND endpoints and then *keep* pushing ... the polarizer will rotate.
Wonderful insight on the filter..man too bad its not a magnetic system!..that would have been so much better!..thats the main issue with these..that some of them are still thread on..which takes forever..so much more convenient when switching from lens to lens..me personally I would pay a little more on the price for that convince...but overall I am definitely willing to try this filter..especially with the reasonable price point.
@@ScottDavenport thanks. One more question. Doesn’t the Haida Nano Pro 2-5, 6-9 stop magnetic version you reviewed before also have a CPL filter? How do the two compare to this newer Haida?
Hi JaseEvoX... I don't have that specific lens, and didn't test on my 16-35mm (I have only the 67mm sample from Haida). That being said, reports from Haida is there is "no vignetting at >17mm" ... so at 16mm you might notice something.
@@JaseEvoX I have the Sony 16-35mm 2.8 and use a VND exclusively. I have no vignetting. My brand of VND is different, but it is possible so I would contact Haida, or buy one and test it and return if it fails. Also, a slight vignetting is easily fixed in post.
What’s Up Scott, Im Not Educated At All On Filters… However, All My Video Content I Record Outdoords… I’m Looking For A Good VIR- ND Filter And A Polarized Lens Filter … I’m Working With A Sony A6600 My Lenses Are: Sony E16-55mm 2.8 And Sony E15mm F1.4.. Thank You…
I like the Haida CPL VND for filming. Whatever filter you choose, get one to fit your largest diameter lens, and use step-down rings for your smaller lenses (buy once, use broadly :)
Great looking VND. I switched to a VND a few years ago for my landscape photography and have no plans on going back to 100mm squares. I shoot the Sony A1 and GM glass so have high demand for image quality. I have a $2500 LEE kit on CL for $399 as I don't want to carry around and work with that stuff any more. VND is King IMHO😎👍 Not only is the image quality holding up, but I get the shot I am looking for more often as it is much more fluid to rotate another ½ stop than change filters.
I've warmed up to VNDs for sure ... they've come a long way since the cringeworthy days of horrid X patterns and harsh vignetting. I love them for filming and B-roll. Handy for more rapid handheld photography, too. For my hardcore landscape still work, I'm still attached to my Haida M10 holder system :)
@@ScottDavenport I am getting lazy and want it little and light he says while always having a 600mm in his bag😎
I added a K&F Concept combined VND/CPL to my kit nearly a year ago. I can confirm that this set-up is much more convenient and less bulky than using a square filter system, and it has similar benefits vis-a-vis separate circular NDs (incl VNDs) and CPLs. It has become my default filter for landscape photography involving long hikes. I still use my square filters when I'm settling into a longer or more involved landscape session, or want the option of adding a graduated ND to the mix. The K&F version looks very similar to the Haida offering. The K&F version was less expensive than the Haida prices you mentioned, but that was a while ago so they may now be more similarly priced.
Thanks for sharing your notes, Warren. I’m like you when settling in …. I bring out my square glass.
I just purchased this filter and it does still get the x pattern to some degree. I used it on a 24-105 and got uneven exposure with darker and lighter sections of the image. You noticed them when rotating the CPL. I only bought this for video when shooting on the ocean which makes the uneven exposure even worst.
Any recommendations for a filter that doesn’t show the X pattern?
Very useful review, many thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Just collected mine yesterday in 82mm diameter.
I'll break it open this weekend .
Did anybody else silver knob come off of the filter?? Mines is bent Is there a replacement for this help
The silver knob on mine arrived bent too
Hi, have you tested whether the water drains properly from the filter in the event of rain?
10:35 What was the focal length at this scene?
I have a Black Magic 4K, so I will need an IR cut filter. Does the cut filter go before the ND filter (before as in closer to the camera lens)? This Haida has two thread sizes, so I am trying to figure out what IR Cut thread size I need.
I don't know what's best for IR filters, closer to the lens or first filter in the stack. Sorry....
Great explanation with minute details, just a question
if you set VND first then after you adjust polarization, will that not cut the light further under exposing the shot for which ideally we will have to compensate in camera?
Does is show vignetting if used with with 14-16mm focal lengths?
Polarization usually cuts some amount of light, 1 to 1.5 stops, depending on the filter. Final exposure settings need to consider both the ND and the polarizer. You could compensate in camera or readjust the VND. I can't speak to the 14-16mm lenses... I don't have one of those.
Hello , nice video.Could you pls tell me if there are any cross at 7 stops ???
Is there an Olympus photographer with an 8-25mm lens that uses this VND?
Are you still able to "stack" another filter on the front element?..still threaded?..thanks
Yes, the outer VND is also threaded.
@@ScottDavenport someone mentioned that it is threaded..but you have to go up a size?..for example the Haida is 77mm but whatever you put in front has to be 82mm?..is this correct?..if so that sucks now people have to buy a size higher on like a "mist" filter even though they have a 77mm thread size already ..haha
Thank you , great info.. do you think this would be a good ND filter for portrait/ fashion shoots on sunny days ?
I’m not a portrait photographer, but I don’t see why not :)
hiii. thanks for your video . soo Did you not see a x pattern in any of the stops? or color shift?
I've had not problems with x-patterns. There is a slight color shift (like most NDs)... nothing that can't be easily handled in post.
Would this be okay with 1.8/1.4f lenses
Sure. The lens I use this filter with is an f/1.8
Does the VND start at 0 and then jump to 3? I’m wondering if I could use this just for the CPL for when I don’t need the VND. It would be handy to keep this filter on all the time and then use the VND when needed.
Hi Rachel… no, it starts at 3.
Superb explanation.
It’s a nice VND/CPL combo. But how can one use this with a small size mini matte box such as the Tilta and Smallrig…especially with the VND control stick sticking out so long? I did try out the K&F version and the adjustment was quite restrictive. I’m sure this would be no different.
Yeah, that’s a tough combo. Any accessory that affixes to the lens would be a challenge to match up with the filter.
@@ScottDavenport Since you have had some hands-on with it...do you think slightly cutting off the lever would hamper its functionality in anyway?
Rather than cutting the lever, I’d remove the lever entirely and use a safety pin or similar tool to adjust the VND. The pointy end of a pin should fit the hole that the lever screws in…. Enough to rotate it.
hi, do the CPL ring rotate when adjusting VND by 1 hand?
Hi Long ... You can adjust the VND with one hand by gently setting the VND using the small handle. The polarizer will stay in place. If you push the handle to the 3ND or 7ND endpoints and then *keep* pushing ... the polarizer will rotate.
Wonderful insight on the filter..man too bad its not a magnetic system!..that would have been so much better!..thats the main issue with these..that some of them are still thread on..which takes forever..so much more convenient when switching from lens to lens..me personally I would pay a little more on the price for that convince...but overall I am definitely willing to try this filter..especially with the reasonable price point.
And with magnetic you have 90% of slip and drop on the floor. Boom! Here it goes your money.
Does it effect image softness at longer focal lengths like 200mm or 600mm?
I don't know, Chinito. I use the VND with a 20mm lens and haven't used it with longer focal lengths.
@@ScottDavenport thanks. One more question. Doesn’t the Haida Nano Pro 2-5, 6-9 stop magnetic version you reviewed before also have a CPL filter? How do the two compare to this newer Haida?
What is the front thread size of the 82?
it should be 95mm
Hi Scott, is there any vignetting when using it on a Sony 16-35 2.8 GM ?
Hi JaseEvoX... I don't have that specific lens, and didn't test on my 16-35mm (I have only the 67mm sample from Haida). That being said, reports from Haida is there is "no vignetting at >17mm" ... so at 16mm you might notice something.
@@ScottDavenport Thanks Scott, I had a feeling that may be the case,
@@JaseEvoX I have the Sony 16-35mm 2.8 and use a VND exclusively. I have no vignetting. My brand of VND is different, but it is possible so I would contact Haida, or buy one and test it and return if it fails. Also, a slight vignetting is easily fixed in post.
@@JaseEvoX I saw a video that tested on a nikon 14mm. No vignette
What’s Up Scott,
Im Not Educated At All On Filters… However, All My Video Content I Record Outdoords… I’m Looking For A Good VIR- ND Filter And A Polarized Lens Filter … I’m Working With A Sony A6600 My Lenses Are:
Sony E16-55mm 2.8 And Sony E15mm F1.4..
Thank You…
I like the Haida CPL VND for filming. Whatever filter you choose, get one to fit your largest diameter lens, and use step-down rings for your smaller lenses (buy once, use broadly :)
call me negative but I had enough with this TH-cam trend of making long review videos without showing how the product actually work.
Yhis isn't review without any examples. It's another blah blah blah selfish Head