Robert is a great asset, his channel goes back deep in time and on absolutely amazing knowledge on chemistry ♥️ btw I reckon he and Tom Nichols have the exact same voice modulation, after a while it's uncanny really
My goodness, your bike has more joie de vivre ( gotta just Love that @2.05 ! ) and probably epic rides than most $$$$ off the shelf TdF wannabe bikes. Inspiring!
I watched the video perhaps my 10th time. I am so exited to give it a go myself !! would it be possible to get an update on the bike ? would love to see how green it became in the last 2 years
@@LioLionsen I am afraid to deflate your dreams but I must. The copper was atomically thin, the rust took over before the green could, so I had to clear-coat her. Laura gave up too. So while it's a cool experiment, it's more athletic than hard wearing.
I had to clear coat it. It's atomically thin. Laura ground hers back and chromed it. It's pretty, but that's about it! Sorry to disappoint. Good luck tho.
Ok well you seem to combine my 3 favourite hobbies, filming, cycling and myog. So subbed. V jealous of your shed. Ps, I made a steel frame and then got it clear lacquered after phosphating (meant to stop rusting but doesn’t). I’m wondering if I stripped it and then copper plated it as u have, could I then get it clear lacquered (before it goes green) and keep the copper colour and prevent rust?
The copper is atomically thin, Laura has stripped and painted her petrol tank, and I've clear coated my frame. If you look further up my video list, I've upgraded a little. So my copper experiment has been demoted to pub bike I'm afraid. I live in an old communal yard in Turku, Finland, and all the wooden houses have a basement cupboard. But yes, I love my shed, wish it was bigger!
So will the patina from the copper protect the steel below the surface from oxidizing and rusting? If so would this be something that you would have to redo and maintain like when you blu steel?
The copper is atomically thin, so while it's pretty, I think it's not viable protection for the frame. I ended up clear coating it once I got to the patina I wanted. Douglas explains how to keep the process going for longer to add multiple layers of copper, but I never got that far.
@@SladeTakalaLamey Has it held up pretty well after two years with a clear coat? Did oxidation continue beneath your coat or is it as stable as a normal paint job? I read that you've upgraded since posting this, but I'd love to know if there are any unintended effects two years later. Thanks for sharing your process!
@@AS-vq3ep It has but not really under stressful conditions. As you will see if you shoot further up my feed. I've somewhat upgraded, so she's been demoted to a pub bike.
I was about to try this copper oxide + acid formic combination too, But hesitated I think im gonna plate my stainless steel with nickel first, then copper plate it with cuso4
Definitely, I did consider that. The layer of copper is atomically thin, I ended up clear-coating it because the rust was winning the oxidization war, it was never gonna go green.
I put some links in the description. I'm afraid I derived my recipe from the two videos of Robert and the one from Laura. I'd give some warning tho... Laura has since chromed her motorbike tank and my bike rusted as I've ended up clear coating it to lock in what's left of the patina.
@@SladeTakalaLamey thanks for the response! So the copper rusted to the green colour or the whole thing rusted brown from the iron? What if I clear coated right away? Did you leave it unprotected for some time?
@@benhadman2812 the whole thing rusted (brown,iron) but I didn't let it go too far before I clear coated it. I think it was down to the second coat. The first coat was shiny and although it was atomically thin, in the places it caught it looked brilliant. By the time the second coat was on, it became almost powdery. I think a perfect first coat is what to aim for. There are still areas of shiny copper, but it's patchy! Hope that helps.
I'll admit I have tried and it's not easy. However, it's still much quicker, cos you don't have to put it away to catch up with your friends. You can even land next to them and then chase.
@@zngrrr I presume so. As you can see from my explanation in the video. I am relying heavily on other people's expertise. I've heard that oiling it quickly after stops the reaction, which might stop the poweriness.
as thin and uneven this copper cover looks, i guess the bike does turn rust red instead of green... if you want a proper coat, you need to apply electrolysis.
Robert is a great asset, his channel goes back deep in time and on absolutely amazing knowledge on chemistry ♥️ btw I reckon he and Tom Nichols have the exact same voice modulation, after a while it's uncanny really
@@carlospinheirotorres9499 he makes me feel quite dense.
My goodness, your bike has more joie de vivre ( gotta just Love that @2.05 ! ) and probably epic rides than most $$$$ off the shelf TdF wannabe bikes.
Inspiring!
the drone controller holder yup best bit
I've just started designing a waltly in bike cad. So there's that to look forward to.
This bloke is a bit of a next level visionary isn't he? He's just managed to boil my jaded brain in one video.
You mean Robert? Yeah, he's on another level. I went for the Laura recipe coz it was much easier to understand.
Can't wait to see the bike riding the @midnightsungravel
Wow! This is amazing! Thanks for sharing it with us 😊
I watched the video perhaps my 10th time. I am so exited to give it a go myself !! would it be possible to get an update on the bike ? would love to see how green it became in the last 2 years
@@LioLionsen I am afraid to deflate your dreams but I must.
The copper was atomically thin, the rust took over before the green could, so I had to clear-coat her. Laura gave up too. So while it's a cool experiment, it's more athletic than hard wearing.
This is EPIC Slade! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Copper sulphate works well too.
@@Clim-lk6tn I've not heard of that stuff since growing crystals from my 80s chemistry set. I suppose it would.
9:00 - that drone control box is such a good candidate to be 3d-printed, and possibly coated with carbon-fiber/fiberglass mesh for durability....
I've just bought myself a laser cutter. The 3D printer is a long way off.
Its been a year! do you have an update on its durability? Inspired by you and Laura, I'm in the midst of doing this to one of my bikes!
I had to clear coat it. It's atomically thin. Laura ground hers back and chromed it. It's pretty, but that's about it! Sorry to disappoint. Good luck tho.
Really enjoyed the video mate 👍
Thanks very much
Very clever stuff there. Earned my sub.
Ok well you seem to combine my 3 favourite hobbies, filming, cycling and myog. So subbed.
V jealous of your shed.
Ps, I made a steel frame and then got it clear lacquered after phosphating (meant to stop rusting but doesn’t).
I’m wondering if I stripped it and then copper plated it as u have, could I then get it clear lacquered (before it goes green) and keep the copper colour and prevent rust?
The copper is atomically thin, Laura has stripped and painted her petrol tank, and I've clear coated my frame. If you look further up my video list, I've upgraded a little. So my copper experiment has been demoted to pub bike I'm afraid.
I live in an old communal yard in Turku, Finland, and all the wooden houses have a basement cupboard. But yes, I love my shed, wish it was bigger!
So will the patina from the copper protect the steel below the surface from oxidizing and rusting? If so would this be something that you would have to redo and maintain like when you blu steel?
The copper is atomically thin, so while it's pretty, I think it's not viable protection for the frame. I ended up clear coating it once I got to the patina I wanted. Douglas explains how to keep the process going for longer to add multiple layers of copper, but I never got that far.
@@SladeTakalaLamey Has it held up pretty well after two years with a clear coat? Did oxidation continue beneath your coat or is it as stable as a normal paint job? I read that you've upgraded since posting this, but I'd love to know if there are any unintended effects two years later. Thanks for sharing your process!
@@AS-vq3ep It has but not really under stressful conditions. As you will see if you shoot further up my feed. I've somewhat upgraded, so she's been demoted to a pub bike.
Sick build dude!!
Cheers very much 😃
I was about to try this copper oxide + acid formic combination too,
But hesitated
I think im gonna plate my stainless steel with nickel first, then copper plate it with cuso4
It's atomically thin so it's cosmetic. I ended up clear coating it before it had the opportunity to go green.
Wow. Awesome
Thanks very much
Ha ha you're bald
Oh wait, so am I.....😐
Awesome build
can it be sprayed on instead of brushed on?
Definitely, I did consider that. The layer of copper is atomically thin, I ended up clear-coating it because the rust was winning the oxidization war, it was never gonna go green.
Brilliant.....
Thanks very much!
@pliis which Robert video does he go into detail on how to create the solution?
I put some links in the description. I'm afraid I derived my recipe from the two videos of Robert and the one from Laura. I'd give some warning tho... Laura has since chromed her motorbike tank and my bike rusted as I've ended up clear coating it to lock in what's left of the patina.
@@SladeTakalaLamey thanks for the response! So the copper rusted to the green colour or the whole thing rusted brown from the iron?
What if I clear coated right away? Did you leave it unprotected for some time?
@@benhadman2812 the whole thing rusted (brown,iron) but I didn't let it go too far before I clear coated it.
I think it was down to the second coat. The first coat was shiny and although it was atomically thin, in the places it caught it looked brilliant. By the time the second coat was on, it became almost powdery. I think a perfect first coat is what to aim for.
There are still areas of shiny copper, but it's patchy! Hope that helps.
i like TT bars.. and the build ethos.. but I hope that drone rig isn't used while riding...
I'll admit I have tried and it's not easy. However, it's still much quicker, cos you don't have to put it away to catch up with your friends. You can even land next to them and then chase.
@pliisfi I'd be trying it too obviously 🙄 safety third.
Im pretty sure if you etched the bike first the copper would have stuck better.
Maybe I sanded it too smooth. I think it's so atomically thin it's maybe not great for wear and tear.
Is this copper sulfate?
@@zngrrr it's copper oxide, although I've heard sulphate would work.
It is working but i dont know if it's better... Do you make it with the same amounts last time?
The copper oxide in the video
@@zngrrr I presume so. As you can see from my explanation in the video. I am relying heavily on other people's expertise. I've heard that oiling it quickly after stops the reaction, which might stop the poweriness.
@@SladeTakalaLamey thank you and last question how do oyu get the green color?
as thin and uneven this copper cover looks, i guess the bike does turn rust red instead of green...
if you want a proper coat, you need to apply electrolysis.
I agree, but it was a fun experiment.
not red lock tight on the bb!!! lmao
It's not come undone yet. Ha