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Why Fortnite Can't Split Loot Pools
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 มิ.ย. 2024
- Why Fortnite Can't Split Loot Pools
The biggest issue of Fortnite Season 3 is the loot pool being shared between competitive and public matches. Is there any hope for Epic Games to change it?
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He did very well, just want some background music maybe. Keep up the good work!
Tanks did so well I forgot he was editing and thought it was just a normal video, one thing tho, he ended up showing a bunch of gameplay from like, I think season 1? And it wasn’t really relevant to what you were talking about, but overall he was really good and he should become your full time editor
There was background music, maybe I had it too low 😭@@RobertCatch
@@Tanksx oh my bad, regardless the transitions and effects were really good
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At the end of the day
Pros:we want balance
Casuals:we want chaos
It more like casuals: we want fun
Everyone has different versions of fun, idk why every single casual thinks being good at a game is not fun.
@@A10slasher my point is for yall to have more “fun” metas are often unbalanced
Even tho I’m a casual, I like when the games are balanced and sometimes chaotic time to times but having a unbalanced, unskillful, and often unfair metas just ruins the fun for me in my opinion
Casual here. I don't want chaos. I find fairness and balance to be way more engaging and fun.
but whats your thoughs on reolad
Ah yes the new gamemode, “reolad”
@@SulidudeFNthat’s what it’s called
@@KadeStro90he spelled it wrong
I love 'reolad' 👍
@@KadeStro90 it’s reload
Then just apply the nerfs only to ranked and not to pubs
i thought that this season was bad at first with its unbalanced nature and the car-nite meta, but every single change since launch has been positive and make me like this season more and more. plus, if I get bored of wrecked, I could just play reload.
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I actually have another idea that could work, what if the balancing was different between the pubs and ranked/comp games. They’ve already done it before, they did it with the spider man gloves in chapter 3 season 1
Funny thing in tournaments they remove the broken items but ranked their like keep everything lol
in my opinion reload is the perfect example of chaotic balance. its fun and chaaotic but not to the point where its uncounterable, the small map means constant chaotic fighting and its fun, the weapons are great and the constant action is amazing. i feel like reload captured that fun sense of chaos way better than invincible win machines
I feel like this guy would do anything to defend this season
If we had the tow hook cannon, the sniper, the EMPs and everything else it would have been better
They kinda killed this season to me
Honestly they nerfed EVERYTHING and added so many counters it feels like a different season
Some nerfs yeah but last patch nots were ALL NERFS
I am LOVING RELOAD it's what I've been begging fortnite to do for years PURE ACTION AND FUN its the most fun fortnite has been since OG no attachments no bullet drop
Barely gonna play BR at this point anymore if they keep updating it SO FUN
EVERYTHING needed nerfs, it just isn’t fun to play against instant win buttons. When you have practiced your skills at the game and dedicated a long time to getting good it isn’t fun to have your skill completely negated with uncounterable super powerful items. Nitro fists are one thing, but before the big nerf it was impossible to play builds because of the nitro splashes. Nerfs are not ruining the season they’re making it slightly more playable for builds players. Mobility is still way too broken especially in non-tournament gamemodes, fighting doesn’t mean anything when you can just leave and basically teleport across the map whenever you want.
@@DavidSwe well I play zero builds and I know it sucks to play a game and feel like you SUCK out of no where but when it comes down to it I'd rather be the worst player on fortnite but having fun then be the BEST PLAYER IN NA EAST and be miserable playing the same boring season over and over and over again last 2 seasons we basically the SAME SEASON
I agree some things needed the nerfs but EVERYTHING at some point you just gotta ask yourself if you hate the changes because they suck or become you at using the new stuff
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The stuff needed nerfs. Having really good items that slice up the game is one thing. Having instant win items for fights is another. The way the cars and fists were before. They completely overwrote the main mechanic of building in Fortnite. Building was useless, because builds could be ran over and pierced relentlessly over and over again. It’s like if they update the rules of tag. Now there’s bikes and scooters everywhere. All of a sudden whoever has a scooter overwrites the whole dynamic of running after players and running away from them. Now everyone stands no chance. The tagged person will always lose because the scooter completely destroys the main mechanic of the game, running, and if the tagged person has the scooter the rest stand no chance because they cannot hope to outrun something that is inately faster than them. The core mechanic has been made useless. The game goes from a running game to who can get a scooter first. But the scooters are everywhere, you say. Why don’t they just use it themselves? Well, they do. In fact , they all do, because the scooter is so damn powerful in the meta that the only way to hope to win is to use one. Now tag is a completely different game. It’s a bunch of scooters racing around endlessly. Sure, some people might enjoy the new additions, and others who can quite run as fast as the other kids may like the new changes because it levels the playing field, but the fact of the matter is that the mechanic added destroyed the original point of the game. Running. People didn’t come to tag to play scooter simulator. They came to play tag. Now replace every instance I said tag, running and scooters and replace them with Fortnite, building and cars/fists respectively. Change is needed to keep Fortnite alive. Just not change that completely changes the whole game and it’s point. It’s like if chess became a run and gun simulator. The fact of the matter is that the first week of season 3, Fortnite was broken by the new items.
@@SkyBlue-gb3qx okay I'm sure you made some good points but you wrote a whole steven kong novel I'm not reading all that
Till all are one my friend
Here’s how I would split the loot pool:
Its pretty simple, just make lower ranks have pubs loot and maybe elite champion and unreal have tournament loot pools and have diamond be the cut off line for tournaments. This way there is a way to practice while also giving an easy way for new people to enter the competitive system
You and one other person left this comment I think this is a brilliant idea.
Bad idea since the main complaint for non split loot pools is that you can’t practice in real tournaments.
Lower ranks are just gonna get beat down even harder when they get into higher ranks and less people would play.
The point of competitive is to be consistent, it’s not supposed to be fun. Pubs is the fun gamemode, ranked has money and fame on the line.
@@Klarque_Clint or add like a legendary ranked mode when you get to a certain rank like diamond, then you can decide to play the ultra sweaty mode with no broken items or just normal ranked where casuals can play with everything, because I as a casual do want to play ranked and not just get destroyed
Tanks did an amazing job of editing this video❤
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unrelated to the topic at hand i think the editor need to tone it down with the noise effects when transitioning from face cam to gameplay (in my opinion) just some constructive criticism
Fair criticism I'll let him know!
I agree, I do like the editing style but not all the sound effects
This is such a whiplash season. We've gotten so much new stuff and modes that are awesome, but the constant nerfs even the most recent one just keeps making this season less special. I honestly just hope they split sometime or just for one season they just do something different and don't nerf it into the ground.
they can't do that, so comp and casual players have to use the same loot pool that is how arena was shutdown and replaced with ranked was because of a split loot pool
@@TB11484 No they can do that, they just don't want to.
@@vray7607they already are working very hard so I doubt they could fit that into the schedule
Even still, this fix would have fixed pretty much everything people griped with this season or at least most of it. It really just feels like they're just gonna have to be dragged into doing it kicking and screaming.
loving the editing!
13:11 also without syphen it does not reward you to fight people it cases more people to just box up and only fight when unavoidable. Other than when you are holding hight
This editor definitely got that finzar pack. Goated
So If fortnite wont split loot pools between ranked and normal BR cuz they want to cesulas(I know it is spelled wrong) to play ranked just split loot pools from elite and above cuz if you are not pro player you are not making it to elite
This is a great idea.
Why is no one talking about how BAD the nitro splashes were the at the start.
Because they weren’t
@@relishappleseed3791they were
@@relishappleseed3791 maybe in zero build. Builds was legitimately unplayable
It was never bad. 😂
They gave your car infinity fuel and made you a lot faster. What was bad about it?
back in chapter 1 season x, epic did a blog post responding to the community's outrage about the mechs at the time and they explained that the mission of Fortnite was to bring players of different skill levels together to make an fair experience where anybody can win which is why epic adds a lot of these op items and never really separates the loot pool due to that reason
Eyyy just wanted to say I really like this new editing style! Great job Tanks.
Editing was very good but personally I feel like there were way too many sound effects and they were too loud. Just some feedback!
Honestly the new editor rlly adds a nice flare to the video. I think I fits very well they did a great job🙏
Well, seems like epic changed their mind huh
i am the only one that kinda begin to less play this season when nerf happen ?
Good job Tanks! I love the style!
im glad you talked about this and bought up points against other casuals who dont liked to play the game for skill, so they can see why their points never make any sense. i typically dont agree with your opinions but this is how i felt all season, and I hated that some players were trying to take away the voices from the comp and the side of people who had valid reasons to complain
I've understood where the comp players were coming from since about the 2nd day of the season. After seeing some footage of different scenarios I was like "Okay, this needs a tweak". I think both sides are valid in their feelings it's just that no one wants to listen to each other and instead throw ad hominem attacks back and forth. Comps and casuals need each other in order for this game to be successful, just wish more people understood that.
@@Klarque_Clint agreed, also i liked the new editing style
Ngl editor was killing it this vid 🔥🔥
Editing was great on this video
This theme is so good that it made me watch Mad Max Fury Road for the very first time and ended finding one of my favorite movies!
I think the reason epic will not split the loot pool because it will confuse a casual player or new players that’s is not with the fortnite community or don’t want to be in the fortnite community
Me and my friends have been having a blast after this update whether it be Fortnite reloaded or battle royale we have been having fun because we load up boss cars with c4 and then leave the car right next to a big fight it’s free kills
they just HAVE to split lootpools and nerf/buff stats seperately for ranked and casual.
75% have stopped playing the new season after the 2nd week cause of the nerfs.
Epic is too dumb so they released OG again to fix their problems again.
i lowkey liked the season at the start i play both zero builds and builds btw. In builds i play alone cuz all of my friends don’t like build sweats which i get. I only started not liking this season this past week when endgame in zero builds there is 36 people last non moving zone and everyone is just sitting in a car. (that happened yesterday btw)
can you add music in the background? i think it would sound really good
Oooow K.C man the 'Splitters' got to ya! 😅
I'll agree that I find myself engaging more with people in 1V1s vs the 1st few weeks of HitnRun style play. My lobbies still have 1 or 2 in the end game in cars, so I find myself destroying repair stations to help combat it in the final stages. (Everyone and their mum seems to be packing Nitro Fists these days too)
I think there needs to be an onus on Content Creators to while YES be critical when it warrants it, when something clearly isn't working, but when its purely because it's not to your liking or because it spoils YOUR rinse and repeat play style, you need to be accepting to others enjoying it and being happy with the changes.
TOO FEW Content Creators are saying if you like this season, the cars, the chaos, etc that's ok, there's nothing wrong with your opinion for liking it. There seem to be too many Creators really hitting that negativity because they don't want to change their style.
I feel like more Content Creators need to be supportive of the side of the community that enjoy it and not so quick to cast people off who enjoy it as NEW or 'TOO CASUAL'
On the Build / Competitive side of things though I do see the argument for having LESS CARS (lower the amount of cars around the map etc) in the Build mode to help keep the build aspect an active part of the game and not have the 'excitement' of 20 players left in the final circle ruined by some dude with a car running through the builds and bringing it all crashing down.
(Side note) As a Zero Build Guy, I don't even know how you build players keep your head on a swivel like you do. I get lost just watching you! But I respect the spectacle of it all.
what surprises me THE MOST though with the turrets, that NO ONE is talking about is why they don't have a HP Bar like the Business Turret. So if you encounter a car (as we do these days) focusing your shots on the turret (let's say the turret has 300HP) You could knock it out or destroy the turret and force the player out of the car for for a Tradish 1V1.
I'm very surprised this wasn't even considered by Epic as it would have been a great way to counter the sheer fire power of the cars.
For me, a player in their first year of Fortnite, I love the evolution of the game, the need to change my playstyle keeps me on my toes and makes the game feel unique every time I land. Have they pushed it too far with the cars? Yes. But that just means they've found a line in the sand not to cross for future seasons.
I very much Doubt we'll see cars like this ever again in Fortnite.
Final note: the edit was great!
What happened to bikes and why is no one talking about they disappearance?
Good job Tanks, not over edited but everything helps make tge video flow 18:55
7:17 this season has made me the ward of repair torches
The nitro fists feel useless right now 12 seconds per charge just makes it so hard to rotate or even use as mobility
Thanks for sharing and keep up the great work
Yeah competitive is always the most exciting for the fan base when we have crazy items and play styles in the game, but that also is what upsets most of the established competitive community. At the end of the day, Fortnite is always suffering from success, because having a community this big makes it literally impossible to ever please everyone. They just have to try to stick the balance of making the game enjoyable for as many people as possible as best they can, while also changing things up to keep it fresh and exciting.
Ive noticed that barely anyone uses cars now in most of my games its ok but i can easily win now without cars
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I think that the competitiveness of Arena is much more appealing than the consistency in Ranked.
I Think They Nerfed Cars Too Much.
As a casual player all i want is for Fortnite to be fun and sometimes having broken things like the mythic cars are FUN. It didnt matter to me how many times i lost at the start of the season cuz me and my friends were enjoying ourselves SO MUCH all the losses didnt even matter
Reload is 💩 all over the this new season just my opinion the loot pool and locations are on point chapter 5 is cheeks reload saved it majorly
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Oh god this sucks, damn, I was agreeing with you will you starting saying "Boogie Bombs"
You were set in the middle of the argument between both sides at the beginning of the season
Then you started drifting to the casual side a little bit, just a little
Now it feels like you are LEAPING to the Comp's side
It feels like youre taking sides now
Car season ? Does it matter? I’m a have to disagree
Comp player here :) and i genuinely like the items epics introduced into the games even tho ive lost games to things like nitro fists and nitro splashes i think just having a meta where i need to work maybe a little harder for win and qual is so much more fun then your typical box fight pump shot gun meta
Congrats for going on the news man!
thanks fam!
Zero Build should remove snipers. Reload should replace the shield bubble juniors with the original shield bubble. Port a fort and fortresses need to be replaced with port a bunkers.
old editor had much more engaging intros but besides that is good
Editor did good, i think too many sound effects tho
Competitive to me isn't about fun, competitive is about, well being competitive. If you put a competitive player in a pubs, it's not fun for the pub players.
Thats fair. For me competitive gameplay is more fun, I cant find MUCH fun in games where I cant improve and master mechanics.
Its an annoying situation since different strokes different folks
Idk why casuals think being good at a game isn't fun.
I do wish klarque knew more about comp because the take about shocks and boom bow and then compareing them to goku us frezia was clear that he aint know that much the bow was uncounterable in high level comp it alowed you to grief any form 100s of meters away it is not that it is unskill full it is too strong.
17:48 someone freaks out over a Carti snippet dropping ‼️
Yo this edit looks sexy this tanks guy must be really good or something
They COULD'VE brought back the Anvil
Yes
Fortnite has been known to break boundaries, I believe its been one the huge helping hands towards their success. Many other games prioritize a lot on their success, look at Halo for example, not too much of the game has changed for a long while, this doesn't make the game bad not at all, but the fear of change has stopped the game from reaching a broader audience.
Epic has to appeal to 2 diffferent audiences, I don't mean ranked and casual, I mean old and new. I have introduced people to game even as late as chapter 4 and they absolutely love it, but bring chapter 1 players into the mix and they will have different opinions. Digressing a bit here but still to point, Fortnite Reload, despite being a cesspool of OG fortnite, is still an entirely different mode and has a huge different appeal. These controversial changes has honestly been for the better as the chapter 1-3 lootpool plus the small combined rebirth map has made for some extremely fun games.
Fortnite still needs to bridge a gap within these 2 audiences, casual and competitive, old and new, and when you are creating as many game-breaking updates as fortnite does, that bridge will be damaged, but never destroyed, and always reconstructed, better than last. That's what I've seen atleast. They may be different audiences, but there needs be similarities and connections.
Very well said. I like the distinction you made between old and new players. That's a perspective that isn't touched on enough. Something for me to think about for future videos.
Tanks should calm down on that wooshing sound effect, kinda distracting
I like the editor
Player count was super low because nobody liked that bs in the game. My little cousin could kill a decent player with them op items. Games balanced now but day 1 it was toxic.
Cars were just too much all at once. It's ok to add new and interesting things (mods, augments, mythics, npcs, even natural disasters) but the cars were not the established playstyle, and there wasn't nearly enough counterplay on launch. People like to feel rewarded for their time investment, and this applies to casual players as equally as comp players, but every now and then Fortnite introduces something meant to circumvent the building of skill (brutes, ufo, these cars) and I know some people feel burned when that happens, particularly OGs who've seen it before. It's Pavlovian response at this point.
BUT it was only really bad for the first week, after the initial nerfs the cars were super balanced and now they might even be a little weak? Sadly the general audience is so quick to write off a game now; if Reload wasn't happening, this summer would've been a new low for Fortnite. All in all, I agree with you from the content creator perspective, the big boys really should be more open to alternate playstyles and more ready to switch up the content, this season is PACKED with stuff to make videos on but very few are capitalizing. GREAT THOUGHT-PROVOKING VIDEO AS ALWAYS!
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They should have just released the stuff like the tow hook and all the other items before the cars got super nerfed. This season was at its best when the cars were OP imo and if the stuff released with them it would have been even more fun. Now it's neutered to oblivion.
Also cars do take some skill. Not just anyone can out maneuver the chaos and agression this season. Doubly so if you're in the battle bus because boy howdy some people are awful drivers. Can't tell ya how many times I seen people, casuals and crown holding sweats, get stuck in tight spaces or on cliffs.
Even with all the nerfs though and the damnable Sniper rifle returning (nothing should insta knock or kill in a single shot, at least leave at 1 hp, will never change my mind on this,) I still find normal ZB/BR far more fun than Reload
too bad they do all the nerfs that we wanted as comp players after the start of both fncs weeks....
Ughh i miss your lore videos
Even though I don’t play Fortnite that much since chapter 5 came out this season in my own opinion is better than the last 2 seasons I haven’t played it at all and I’m a little bit surprised that almost the whole community doesn’t like this season and for the first time the players that play is super low I would’ve thought I would be seeing this maybe in like 3 or 4 more chapters since this game is still loved and played we never had a season like this people been hating every season but low player count like this is a first
Haven’t even watched the video yet but I know I’m gonna enjoy it
Appreciate the support bro!
Old video style>>> (nice vid tho)
3:58 This point here is incredible, these people hate fortnite for being fortnite at the end of the day (a game that adapts and changes itself) they cant keep up with that mentally when it comes to gameplay
Imma keep it 100% this season was great but the nerfs was too much, if you nerf nerf and nerf again and again youll end up having the game feel like it received no changes at all because everything will morph into the same thing which is what the competitive players want (the same styled gameplay with no changes) we did all this nerfing to have more players at end games and slow down the gameplay even more due to so many players being alive now.
At the end of the day all we needed was weapon damage buffs to cars and emps and for Builds just nerf the nitro and the fist to 60 damage to walls.... thats it
this season is really bad
Im from future, the game is be coming totally unplayable, this week useage of cars was bumped up to unbearable level.
yeah but i like reolad a lot
i find building fun, and when everyone is in a car there's literally no building involved (even after the "nerf") and it's why its boring for me
Tanks less sound effects is better
I actually like alot of the loot pool this season...
But the car game play was boring AF, getting 16 kills sitting in a car was lame and not satisfying at all for me... especially playing solos, was a bit better playing with friends.
And i agree 100% season is better since the nerfs, but some nerfs were a lil much like why do we need to know exactly where the boss cars are on the map now ... might have made sense before all the other nerfs too them lol
Now players now know what medallion, and mythic weapon, plus your exact location if you take the car kinda too much on that nerf..
And honestly If competitive had different weapons and loot pools ... I would enjoy it more, I enjoyed playing a tournament with only nitro splash it was a completly different game to play
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reload,og is better than s3c5
Competitive games, especially those for money or some sort of rewards should have a specific loot pool and map. Even bring back syphon? And not ruin it for everyone else.
Then content creators & comp players voices should not have more sway than the statistics epic has for the majority of the playerbase.
If certain items or players interrupt the balance of what epic is going for then a change is required. Not because whining content creators or 1/3 people who dont like it and wont stop crying onlone
Chapter 2 was amazing, boring loot pool, consistent gameplay, I like comp to be consistent
Imo, the problem with nerfs is that, they go to far, you can’t drive a regular car near a real player anymore without it being blown up in 5 seconds, so the turret and grenade launcher is completely useless, and the nitro fist are completely useless as a melee weapon and are a mediocre rotation at most, shockwaves are 10x better.
The problem is that nerfing every new thing into the ground makes the point of a new season pointless, it feels like I’m playing myths and mortals part 2.
I haven't played in two weeks I'm bored with fortnite it's kinda trash right now
competitive isn't meant to be fun, it's meant to be competitive.
These comp players want builds to be the ONLY thing to beat any item. The refuse to adapt, actually use the cars and items that stop them becuase there too lazy and just want to pub stomp with sweaty builds but they cant do that cos there builds arent the only thing on the table.
Well they already have split the loot pool for ranked and pibs so no needd to argue now
Near the end, you nailed it. Epic has tried splitting the loot pool before, and Arena drew staggeringly low player numbers. That is why Ranked exists with the formula it has. The truth is that the competitive scene is tiny, and without acceptable player numbers to justify its existence, it would be deemed a liability and fold. Epic is doing what's necessary to keep it alive because they've invested heavily into it monetarily.
But the Community is going to remain unhappy about a lot of the things they added to the game if they don't change it though
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this is my favourite season of the chapter
The reason why Fortnite cant split the lootpool:
Comp players: "Well, I wanna play casual too.. 😖👉👈. I dont wanna play wiff diss stuff when I play casuwusal >//M//
Bro? What that’s not fair at all a comp player can’t say they don’t want the loot pool to their liking because they sometimes like the play pubs if a casual player went in comp and wanted the loot pool to be changed to their liking the comp players would go MAD.
Also this season All Fortnite has done is listen to the comp players
I said it once
I'll say it again
The solution is split the lootpool