From the bottom of my heart ty so much maam. I have learned a lot from yr videos ..... this wasteland explanation is beyond ty..... so much helpful this explanation will stay with me till I die ......ty so much maam.... I really owe u lot ..... I have joined phd after clearing net and jrf ..... u have played an important role in it so once again ty so much for all yr videos
Thank you so much mam....In Bangladesh, we have this poem in our BA honours 4th year of English... And I was so afraid of this poem..but now I totally understand the poem and it’s inner meanings so well. All the references you gave are so helpful to understand the whole poem. Thanks a bunch💐
Thank you soooo much ma'am. You wouldn't believe how much help it was to me! I am from Bangladesh and I have been with you since Paradise Lost. I learned Macbeth, Waiting For Godot, Keats, Shelly and many more fragments of literature from you. You are like a blessing to all of us who are actually devoted to literature. This year when I realized, The Waste Land is included in our syllebus, I was frightened thinking how would I be able finish such complicated poem. At first it seemed pretty hard. But then , one day, I saw your announcement about this poem and the news just made my day. Finally as you said, I will never forget this poem even after completing my exam. This poem felt like reading the world literature together. It will always be in my knowledge just like Paradise Lost and other poems that you taught us. Shantih Shantih Shantih
I just now realized something about singing out of an empty cistern... Not sure how people were singing in 1922, but very few men have voices that are both deep and strong. The deeper the voice is, the harder it is to project. An empty cistern is one of the best places for someone like me, a basso profundo, to sing, because my voice is so very low that it's hard to sign loud without a microphone unless I have an echoing chamber. But this part of the poem goes back to the quote from the Fire Sermon section, "Et O ces voix d’enfants, chantant dans la coupole!" And not just referencing the high voices of children, but of the Children of the Night: Bats. Major inversion of expectation and experience, yes?
Ma'am could you please be consistent 🙏🏼and frequent in your video lectures on TH-cam cause many of us who may be not rich enough to buy any courses but can rely upon precious lectures of teachers like you🙏🏼❤it is only my request ma'am I know you might have a busy schedule as well 😊 thankyou for your knowledge.
One of the hardest things for me to keep straight is that "London Bridge" is not a metaphor for taking all of the "fragments," Shakespear, the Gita, Dante, Webster, Ovid, et cetera ad infinitum and moving those elements of the past into the future, because London Bridge didn't move to Arizona until 1968, but Eliot has this way of saying true things that he can't possibly know. How he put it is, "If poetry is a form of ‘communication’, yet that which is to be communicated is the poem itself, and only incidentally the experience and the thought which have gone into it. The poem’s existence is somewhere between the writer and the reader; it has a reality which is not simply the reality of what the writer is trying to ‘express’, or of his experience of writing it, or of the experience of the reader or of the writer as reader. Consequently the problem of what a poem ‘means’ is a good deal more difficult than it at first appears."
And then there is the additional question of changing perspectives over time. In a post-structuralist universe meaning is the least stable idea I guess.
Thank u ma'am after "The waste land" makes lectures on the history of indian English literature it is very important for us. with sequence of events and literary works.
Thank you so much Ma'am. You explained everything so well. Especially Last few lines you said in the video..they touched my heart.. thanks a lot maam... really grateful.
A few days ago I learned that "DA" is actually more subversive than it looks 102 years later, because in 1922 there was an artistic movement called Dadaism.
A 21st century American reader can't read about the "Falling towers" without thinking about New York. Rather than try to fight it, I relaxed my mind and just let it flow over the cities listed... and I realized that Vienna London evokes a very specific person: Sigmund Frued. Accidentally, of course, as he didn't flee Vienna to become a resident of London until 1938. I do think that Eliot may have been trying to evoke people, because a series of city names would have commas.... "Jerusalem, Athens, Alexandra," whereas people are identified by a sequence of names without commas, "Thomas Sterns Eliot." Obviously, he's referencing Tertullian with Jerusalem and Athens, arguably Philo with Alexandria, and Plato with Unreal.
I finally figured out "who is the third." It's so easy to connect either to the Antarctic expedition via the footnote, or to Luke 24 as mentioned in another footnote, but there is a Quran reference in there as well. "Have you thought of al-Lāt and al-'Uzzá? And about the third one, Manāt?"-Quran 53:19-20
Well, that perspective opens up a whole new dimension of three sisters of fate, even crossing the borderline between institutionalized religion and pagan pantheistic philosophy! Was Eliot then hinting about the inadequacy of existing religion and looking back at something else!
@@NibblePop I really don't know enough about Eliot's background to give what his answer would be. I have the advantage of living a century after this poem, so that I can hear of Shakespeare's 12th Night of think "This is like the Princess of Kashi" and I can hear the story of the Princess of Kashi and think "this is like Shakespeare's 12th Night." I think of the major themes of the Wasteland is that people keep telling the same stories in different ways because the stories are inside of us. It's why the epigraph is about the Sybil cursed with unending life, but also mentions the cicada... referencing the myth of Tithonus. In the end, the story of humanity is the story of our stories.
Shackleton (because of the footnotes... although it was actually a person they kept counting), and Jesus are way obvious, but I do think it's also another Advaita Vedanta parable. Ten men were crossing a fast river and when they reached the other side they started counting themselves to make sure that all had reached the other side safely. Each one counted but found only nine because he did not count himself, and they became very worried. Just at that time a holy man passed by and looking at their miserable faces asked what was wrong; they told him and demonstrated how there were only nine of them, though they had started as ten. He made them stand in a line and with his stick he hit the first man once and separated him from the line. He hit the second one twice, and so on till the last one. He hit him ten times and declared he was the tenth one. They were very happy and went on their way. This is Shantanand Saraswati's interpretation: (Shantanand Saraswati was Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math 1953-1980)
Oh, one other "who is the third" is that in fairy tales, there are usually three... like the huts of the Little Pigs or the Billy Goats Gruff. In the Waste Land, you have the Redhead Chess Queen (under the brush, her hair / Spread out in fiery points / Glowed into words, then would be savagely still.), and you have the Brunette Lady of Shadows (A woman drew her long black hair out tight / And fiddled whisper music on those strings), but that's it. Arguably, there is the typist home at tea-time, but she doesn't have a brush, and her hair color isn't mentioned. In a proper fairy story, there would be a third, probably Blonde to contrast with the Brunette and Redhead.
@@NibblePop I'd tell him that I thought I understood "Othello" when I was in high school, but I was not prepared to have Desdemona stop her "Willow, willow, willow" song and have her and Emilia recapitulate A Game of Chess Desdemona: .--Hark! who is't that knocks? Emilia: It's the wind.
Mam, Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I had been waiting for this part so eagerly...
Madam If we apply Marxists standards how will be results? Because is it right that man is basically selfish? I like poem but the perfectly Gandhiyan poem.
Ma'am have you been well before making this video, because i see you like frequently in every video but at the start of this video you looked like you are not well, Are you okay ma'am?
From the bottom of my heart ty so much maam. I have learned a lot from yr videos ..... this wasteland explanation is beyond ty..... so much helpful this explanation will stay with me till I die ......ty so much maam.... I really owe u lot ..... I have joined phd after clearing net and jrf ..... u have played an important role in it so once again ty so much for all yr videos
I can only say from the bottom of my heart; thank you.
Never in my life i have met a teacher like u....u r great ma'am ❤
Ma’am, you are a blessing to literature enthusiasts. May god bless you♥️
Thank you. I really thought that I’d never find a way into this poem, but you have opened that door for me. I really appreciate your help!
I just want to say Thankyou so much for this beautiful interpretation ❤❤
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Outstanding Analysis
Thank you very much, this has been beyond useful. I'm very grateful for your work. Best wishes
Thank you so much mam....In Bangladesh, we have this poem in our BA honours 4th year of English... And I was so afraid of this poem..but now I totally understand the poem and it’s inner meanings so well. All the references you gave are so helpful to understand the whole poem. Thanks a bunch💐
I don't know how to thankyou mam...you are such a gem ..we really appreciate your effort..love you lots♥️♥️♥️
Had been waiting for this part desperately ❤
48:54 i have this in my syllabus, not as a seperate unit but as a part of a unit😭 and exams are very closeeee😭😭
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Thank you soooo much ma'am. You wouldn't believe how much help it was to me!
I am from Bangladesh and I have been with you since Paradise Lost. I learned Macbeth, Waiting For Godot, Keats, Shelly and many more fragments of literature from you. You are like a blessing to all of us who are actually devoted to literature.
This year when I realized, The Waste Land is included in our syllebus, I was frightened thinking how would I be able finish such complicated poem. At first it seemed pretty hard. But then , one day, I saw your announcement about this poem and the news just made my day.
Finally as you said, I will never forget this poem even after completing my exam. This poem felt like reading the world literature together. It will always be in my knowledge just like Paradise Lost and other poems that you taught us.
Shantih Shantih Shantih
God bless you ❣️
@@NibblePop 🌻🌻🌻
I just now realized something about singing out of an empty cistern...
Not sure how people were singing in 1922, but very few men have voices that are both deep and strong. The deeper the voice is, the harder it is to project. An empty cistern is one of the best places for someone like me, a basso profundo, to sing, because my voice is so very low that it's hard to sign loud without a microphone unless I have an echoing chamber. But this part of the poem goes back to the quote from the Fire Sermon section, "Et O ces voix d’enfants, chantant dans la coupole!" And not just referencing the high voices of children, but of the Children of the Night: Bats.
Major inversion of expectation and experience, yes?
The motif of singing and silenced voices is recurrent. Also think about the expression "terreu' song of the transformed nightingale and jug jug.
Ma'am could you please be consistent 🙏🏼and frequent in your video lectures on TH-cam cause many of us who may be not rich enough to buy any courses but can rely upon precious lectures of teachers like you🙏🏼❤it is only my request ma'am I know you might have a busy schedule as well 😊 thankyou for your knowledge.
I am trying my best dear, so sorry for the delays.
One of the hardest things for me to keep straight is that "London Bridge" is not a metaphor for taking all of the "fragments," Shakespear, the Gita, Dante, Webster, Ovid, et cetera ad infinitum and moving those elements of the past into the future, because London Bridge didn't move to Arizona until 1968, but Eliot has this way of saying true things that he can't possibly know.
How he put it is, "If poetry is a form of ‘communication’, yet that which is to be communicated is the poem itself, and only incidentally the experience and the thought which have gone into it. The poem’s existence is somewhere between the writer and the reader; it has a reality which is not simply the reality of what the writer is trying to ‘express’, or of his experience of writing it, or of the experience of the reader or of the writer as reader. Consequently the problem of what a poem ‘means’ is a good deal more difficult than it at first appears."
And then there is the additional question of changing perspectives over time. In a post-structuralist universe meaning is the least stable idea I guess.
Awesome description of each part ❤ I was waiting for this part
Mam kindly make a video on A doll's house by Henrik Ibsen. Mam your teaching way is just awesome...
Thank u ma'am after "The waste land" makes lectures on the history of indian English literature it is very important for us. with sequence of events and literary works.
Thank you so much Ma'am. You explained everything so well. Especially Last few lines you said in the video..they touched my heart.. thanks a lot maam... really grateful.
A few days ago I learned that "DA" is actually more subversive than it looks 102 years later, because in 1922 there was an artistic movement called Dadaism.
Thank you so much ma'am for your insightful lecture❤
Thanks Ma'am 🎉
A 21st century American reader can't read about the "Falling towers" without thinking about New York. Rather than try to fight it, I relaxed my mind and just let it flow over the cities listed... and I realized that Vienna London evokes a very specific person: Sigmund Frued. Accidentally, of course, as he didn't flee Vienna to become a resident of London until 1938.
I do think that Eliot may have been trying to evoke people, because a series of city names would have commas.... "Jerusalem, Athens, Alexandra," whereas people are identified by a sequence of names without commas, "Thomas Sterns Eliot."
Obviously, he's referencing Tertullian with Jerusalem and Athens, arguably Philo with Alexandria, and Plato with Unreal.
I finally figured out "who is the third." It's so easy to connect either to the Antarctic expedition via the footnote, or to Luke 24 as mentioned in another footnote, but there is a Quran reference in there as well.
"Have you thought of al-Lāt and al-'Uzzá? And about the third one, Manāt?"-Quran 53:19-20
Well, that perspective opens up a whole new dimension of three sisters of fate, even crossing the borderline between institutionalized religion and pagan pantheistic philosophy!
Was Eliot then hinting about the inadequacy of existing religion and looking back at something else!
@@NibblePop I really don't know enough about Eliot's background to give what his answer would be. I have the advantage of living a century after this poem, so that I can hear of Shakespeare's 12th Night of think "This is like the Princess of Kashi" and I can hear the story of the Princess of Kashi and think "this is like Shakespeare's 12th Night." I think of the major themes of the Wasteland is that people keep telling the same stories in different ways because the stories are inside of us. It's why the epigraph is about the Sybil cursed with unending life, but also mentions the cicada... referencing the myth of Tithonus. In the end, the story of humanity is the story of our stories.
Great ending ❤
Thank you for your 'Gift'(true giving) Madam...
U made ts eliot interesting ..thanks
@@PragyaMishra-l8e he actually IS interesting, and my favourite. Good that you like his poetry
Shackleton (because of the footnotes... although it was actually a person they kept counting), and Jesus are way obvious, but I do think it's also another Advaita Vedanta parable.
Ten men were crossing a fast river and when they reached the other side they started counting themselves to make sure that all had reached the other side safely. Each one counted but found only nine because he did not count himself, and they became very worried. Just at that time a holy man passed by and looking at their miserable faces asked what was wrong; they told him and demonstrated how there were only nine of them, though they had started as ten. He made them stand in a line and with his stick he hit the first man once and separated him from the line. He hit the second one twice, and so on till the last one. He hit him ten times and declared he was the tenth one. They were very happy and went on their way.
This is Shantanand Saraswati's interpretation:
(Shantanand Saraswati was Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math 1953-1980)
I never knew about this! Wao
I love u ma'm....i really appreciate ur way of teaching... thank u so much
Oh, one other "who is the third" is that in fairy tales, there are usually three... like the huts of the Little Pigs or the Billy Goats Gruff. In the Waste Land, you have the Redhead Chess Queen (under the brush, her hair / Spread out in fiery points / Glowed into words, then would be savagely still.), and you have the Brunette Lady of Shadows (A woman drew her long black hair out tight / And fiddled whisper music on those strings), but that's it. Arguably, there is the typist home at tea-time, but she doesn't have a brush, and her hair color isn't mentioned. In a proper fairy story, there would be a third, probably Blonde to contrast with the Brunette and Redhead.
Eliot would have loved to have a cup of tea with you over this, or coffee perhaps.
@@NibblePop I'd tell him that I thought I understood "Othello" when I was in high school, but I was not prepared to have Desdemona stop her "Willow, willow, willow" song and have her and Emilia recapitulate A Game of Chess
Desdemona: .--Hark! who is't that knocks?
Emilia: It's the wind.
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Either he would come or I would go. Is this correct
Sounds correct to me.
Very helpful❤...
Thank u so much,maa'm.❤
Thank you so much ma'am😊
Ma'am, could you please recommend a beginner's friendly book for Literary theory and criticism?
Raman sheldan
@@NibblePop Thank you. ✨
"Co co rico co co rico" - see Mark 14:30
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Kindly make a video on A Doctor's Journal by Vikram Seth and also for To Kill a Mockingbird
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Ma'am please make a video on "THE ILLIAD" by homer
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mam please do porphyria's lover and rabbi ben ezra by Robert Browning next
Mam, Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I had been waiting for this part so eagerly...
Madam
If we apply Marxists standards
how will be results?
Because is it right that man is basically selfish?
I like poem but the perfectly
Gandhiyan poem.
Mam please On Your blindness, a prayer for my daughter, vdo please maam in English
Ma'am have you been well before making this video, because i see you like frequently in every video but at the start of this video you looked like you are not well, Are you okay ma'am?
Some days are better than others. Thank you so much for your caring words. I am absolutely fine dear
@NibblePop 🙂
Mam please On Your blindness, a prayer for my daughter, vdo please maam in English