The 50th anniversary of the biggest selling rock LP of all time. £250 for yet ANOTHER 'Remaster' of the same LP, a previously released 1974 concert and more overpriced memorabilia - and of course, the obligatory overpriced hardback book of photo's we've all seen before - but not one single session out-take or demo, no new interviews or documentary, absolutely no previously unreleased material whatsoever. Disgraceful. All I can hear right now is the sound of the cash registers that open side 2. How many more blu-ray DVD's and 5.1 stereo remixes of the same LP do we possibly need? This is such a wasted opportunity.
I bought my vinyl copy in...Oh yes, 1973. Still got it of course. No idea where the poster and the stickers went, though. None of us knew what to do with them in those days. Quite a new development for us.
I lost mine too, lol!! But yeah I still have the one I bought, for a lot of money, for me at that time, and it still sounds great. Now I bought a remastered copy at, of all places, Walmart. Since I work there I get a 10% discount. So I got it for $21. It sounds fantastic, and it came with all the goodies the original had. I’m gonna pass on this box set.
I saw Pink Floyd play dark side at the Rainbow Theatre in Finsbury Park in November 1973 at the Robert Wyatt benefit concert and it still remains as the best version of it live
I am 67 and have been a Floyd fan since my older brother introduced me to them in 1969 with Atom Heart Mother, and I saw them with the Momentary Laps Of Reason tour at Wembley Stadium in 88, there is NO way on earth I would pay that price for this new release. It seems the only thing that matters is "Money" not the fans.
I would have to agree, I think they lost their marbles years ago. This practice (done sadly by a lot of bands) of both trolling and fleecing the fans at the same time is beyond a joke. Its not like they've haven't got enough money/had enough off the fans
I was 16 and very rarely skipped school but one day I did, went with a girl named Linda Godwin to her house, her older brother was there, he had some pot, I had never been stoned before but that day I got pretty stoned for the first time. He played a Black Sabbath record then he put on Pink Floyds Umma Gumma, that blew my mind, I was stunned, had never heard anything like it. I asked him who it was he said Pink Floyd, the next day I went to the record store to buy Umma Gumma, the guy there said 'we don't have it' I was very disappointed, so I asked 'well what do you have by them?' he said 'all we have is this' and held up a copy of DSOTM, I sighed and said 'oh ok' still extremely disappointed cause I had my heart set on Umma. i begrudgingly paid for it and drive home hoping it would be at least comparable to Umma. About a week later they began playing Money on the radio and the rest is history about a year later stores had copies of Umma Gumma so I finally git it!, still have that copy of it too.
I’ve always been of the opinion that Dark Side of the Moon is the closest that man has ever come to perfection. I’ve got three versions of the album. One I downloaded from iTunes so I could listen in my phone at work. It came with a live version and a video documentary of the making of the original re-mastering. Next, I bought a re-production vinyl after I gave up on finding a vintage copy that was in good shape after years of searching. Finally, I did find a vintage copy that was in excellent condition that still had the original inserts. Also had the CD but I gave it to my son after he bought his first car.
Should have kept the CD. The reason that DSOTM stayed on the charts so long is that "audiophiles" kept replacing their vinyl copy after a few plays. Once the CD came out there was no need. Perfect the first play, perfect the 1000th play.
@@terrencesclassicrockcorner I actually own and love the Moving Pictures box set, the YYZ show is the best live Rush I've heard. The Atmos on the Blu-Ray is good fun and the records (although I'm not a fan of the format) are really well mastered and pressed with quality jackets+sleeves. The CD has been altered from the Sean Magee mastering so it's good to have both that and the original on the Blu-Ray stereo layer - both have their upsides to my ears. I rather enjoy the included tat as well (and I don't usually), really nice paper/card stuff and quality trinkets. The book is gorgeous. I didn't get any of the other 40th anniversary box sets, but I made an exception for Moving Pictures because I was still in search of a version that sounds natural to my ears and it looked really well presented too. Both layers of the Blu-Ray as well as the LP come closer than I've yet heard. I've not heard the coveted 03 Atomic, but I've got the 25.8P which is supposedly similar and sounds frankly bizarre to me. The 2112 box set may have been better value as it was much cheaper back in the day, but most of the musical content was frankly offensive, and I doubt the DVD sounds better than my Japanese AMCY CD. For AFtK, Hemispheres and PeW, I settled for the CD sets for the extra content as I quite like the Sector 2 versions. Bottom line is, I won't pretend that an album and a 2-hour live show copied across a bunch of different formats for £200 is good value to most people, but I personally got my money's worth out of it as pretty much every track on every disc is useful to me.
Nothing to do with Pink Floyd... They should stop saying 'Pink Floyd release...'... Pink Floyd haven't released anything for 8 years.. this is very much 'Pink Floyd's Record Company Releases.'. .. big difference. Long after all the members are dead will this cash grab shit continue.
Imagine this, but limited edition, and at a 70's price. Just to be kind. I know, madness. A really interesting video, I was quite unaware of the history of Floyd box sets, but I've now got very good context for where this latest offering sits. An eye watering price, especially in the current financial climate.
I was surprised of the lack of content in this new remaster box set. I have the Immersion set, the 20th Anniversary cd,30th SACD,Mobile Fidelity gold cd and 1974 Japanese tour edition on vinyl. Im set when it comes to copies of this album. The new Animals remix i do need on CD. Great video!
The Animals remix is a waste of money. There are a lot of little things that made the dark mood of the original that are gone now. They went for clarity over atmosphere and removed things including reverb, David's acoustic textures, etc.
all about money for basically stuff u already have or could get cheaper. all this remastered crap too, i dont care for any of it, just prefer original album, also not fussed for live stuff, 200 odd quid takes the piss, iv brought cars for that ha.....they should highlight the track "money" on this album. thing is ppl fall for it too and buy it....give it few yrs and they`ll be another one, just like bands when they do endless best of albums crap.
Remasters are in many cases just an excuse for major labels to re-sell us the same old shit again and again, in worse and worse incarnations. I still have my 70s german LP release (sadly missing the poster since it's used) and my MFSL ultradisc release and i don't need anything else to be honest. I do miss the Alan Parsons Quadrophonic mix sadly. Who knows... maybe one day...
Thanks for the video! Can you remember what the fault with the Blu-ray from the 2011 box was? As to immersing sound, i hear you. As an audio-man i can tell you (and your viewers) that if you want to feel immersed in sound, you just need 2 x 2 speakers, preferably 2 different sets. Put the bigger/louder ones in front of you, the 2nd set behind you, and switch your amp to 4-channel stereo. After all the experimentation, we found this to be the most immersive.
I quite agree. It looks to me as if they're releasing the same thing over and over on the various audio formats that have been developed in the intervening years since the album was first released.
50 year anniversary is a big thing i hope the target audience is teenagers and 20 somethings ( Do they still collect albums? new cars don't come with CD player)
"Remastering" ever since the age of compact discs began become a marketing magic trick for convince people to buy on a new format an album they already own or create the need for those who doesn't own them yet to buy it at last, and then a cliché for reissues and repressings every few years since the previous release. The same nowadays for anniversary editions, only worth it for completists and for people who couldn't get or afford the previous anniversary edition a decade ago, even more so since the 2010s vinyl became relevant once again and record companies put whatever you want them or not CDs, vinyl and Bluray discs all together on the package, so basically you're buying two or three times the same contents all at once.
The Dark Side immersion set proves that the show from Brighton 1972 was fully recorded....I'd happily pay for that above the 74 Wembley show which has been available for decades
It is on the Early Years set. Box only. For me the reason to keep a bootleg version is because it hasn’t been messed with. Listen to the opening of Time…sounds just like the studio. But that’s not how the band sounded live in 1974. I want to hear the band as band flubs and all.
It is not just Pink Floyd doing this.. It is ridiculous how many bands are putting out big beautiful expensive box sets. RUSH for example are going overboard in putting out these Awesome sets! YES has been doing this for years! A Fan can go broke just collecting the newest fine things that legendary bands put out. Imagine the $$ that it would take to collect All of the King Crimson catalogue rareities and such! There is a fine line in being a collector of music! I have not bought an album or CD in 10 years now as I realized that collecting was a futile game. One day I had a very nice collection of All of Iron Maiden. I was shopping and saw that they came out with newer copies with extras from "Castle Records". They were beautiful, but from that point I said NO to buying more of Maiden or Anything ever again. Everything that is available is on the NET! For the most part.. If it is not there, then it probably is not worth the time, IMHO.
Frank Zappa released over 60 albums whilst he was alive. His estate has released more since, and there is a vault full of demos and jams still to go. If you were to buy a full Zappa collection not only would you have spent money on excellent music, you would be an awesome person too. There's no evidence to back that up, but it's fact ;)
It seems like as the kids who listened to this album in the 70's and 80's aged into real jobs the record company keep coming up with new "enhancements" and boxed sets to continue to separate us from our wallets. But I'm sure that's a coincidence. 🤔😏
People go crazy for STUFF and then get taken advantage of. All my music are FLAC files on a good server and that’s it, very little physical media. Have a fairly high end system, would much rather spend on great sound reproduction than stuff. It’s all about the music man
You’re absolutely right, wait for it to come out on eBay. Still using my jamo speakers I bought in 1990, they still sound incredible! Your box set is now selling for £250 on eBay!
You're younger than I. It's hard for me to imagine how it would be to become aware of DSOTM years after its release. I wore it out the year it was released. Honestly, it's a undeniable part of my personal history.
My daughter used to tease me and say Pink Floyd sucked. Last christmas I bought her vinyl copies of DSOTM, WYWH, The Wall and Animals for her record player. As long as we keep playing it, the music will live forever.
Dude, you have TOTALLY nailed it on every aspect of what makes this new 50th Anniversary box such an overpriced, content-poor disappointment. Surely, they could've gone the extra mile and delivered a vinyl box with all or as much of the bonus Immersion content as could be fit onto multiple LP's. And don't even get me started on the fact that they lazily included a hardcover book that can be purchased as a standalone item for far less, much like the 1974 Wembley album (which I plan to get just by itself). Likewise, I can't be the only one who feels that they the dropped the ball even harder on this than with the deluxe "Animals" box (in itself ANOTHER missed opportunity for an Immersion-like experience).
Pink Floyd is a corporation. Its worth pointing out that Roger Waters gets a bad rap for suing for the use of Pink Floyds name, but at that time Pink Floyd was essentially bankrupt and he wanted to prevent exactly THIS from happening. Thats likely in part why he's now doing his OWN version of Dark Side of the Moon. Pink Floyd is a 'machine', thats what he was referring to. When you give them money, you feed the machine. I think 'maybe' I paid for Diviision Bell, that was probably the last time I paid for ANY music except individual artists. Stop feeding the machine. Roger OR Pink Floyd don't need any more money. If you are dishing out money for this stuff, well, I won't say you deserve to get ripped off, but its not like you can't listen to Dark Side without buying yet another copy.
Why is this surprising? And why does one need to re-purchase these albums every time there's an anniversary? You're suckers if you keep buying this crap. Who's Next has how many "deluxe" "special" editions? Six? Eight? Haven't you people caught on yet? You don't need this stuff "remastered' every ten years. They don't do better and better jobs each time. The people who knew how to engineer this stuff are mostly dead, or are going to be soon, and the engineers who have come since just don't have the taste or the sensibility to improve the source material. I heard all of the remasters of The Moody Blues albums: horrible. They got so into making sure you can hear every instrument that they destroyed the blend, the "mix" of the albums. They de-psychedelicized the mixes, inexplicably, so you can hear a little more bass drum. The Beatles remasters are wildly inconsistent. People think that boosting the bass (which is the easiest thing to do in remastering) means you're improving the mix. I don't know what THIS version sounds like......but I'm quite happy with the ten thousand versions I have of this, and Wish You Were Here. And enough with these "anniversaries", like we're supposed to get a cake for these albums. How un-rock & roll can you get?
I did not like the post 2000 remix at all. (I haven't heard the most recent yet.) It just sounds like they pushed the foreground into the background and vice versa. It ruined all of the nuances that made DSOTM the album that it was. I also had a 90's cd and it was the digital capture of the vinyl you would expect from the time, making it great. But, that's just my opinion based on decades of hearing it one way then being exposed to another. I also saw the Pay Per View that ended up sort of becoming what became Pulse. It was the same shows but different cuts from different days and to be honest, it was superior. I remember being so excited for Pulse to come out because the VHS we had made of the Pay-Per-View was getting worn out as my dad and I were both big fans. And then Pulse came out, it wasn't the same setlist. It was the same songs in the same order, but it was captured over 2 days, and the selection used and video was different from the Pay-Per-View I had seen and recorded. That VHS in no longer viewable and I'm left with only the memory and spiteful reminders when I hear tracks from Pulse.
Fuck the boxset, I'm gonna just get the Live at Wembley vinyl of Dark Side of the Moon that they're releasing for $30 and then wait for the book to become cheaper. Sadly, it won't have any of the demos from Wish You Were Here or Animals on it, but what can you do
Bit crap that we're not getting anything new and actually *less* than the scraps we've had before. However, that's not important. We should really be getting really, really angry that Pink Floyd are now using a prism, not like the old days when Dark Side was free of such terrifying concepts.
I totally agree with you, we the loyal fans are being ripped off with these exorbitant prices, and not just for Pink Floyd box sets, I'm also a David Bowie fan, and have bought most of the box sets, but the last one, was a rip off Back to current issue, I will not shell out for the DSOTM box, I own the 73' album and 30th anniversary CD, also bought the 2011 2disc discovery edition, so like you say who needs any more .
Oh yeah anytime I’m going through the albums I always skip over the studio version of the wall. This is probably gonna sound weird, but I don’t even think I own it. Always live version. That’s how you know a band is incredible; when they’re better live.
I saw pink floyd at free trade hall manchester 1972, playing dsotm. They played using full quadraphonic sound. I bought their dsotm album version in sq quadraphonic. I had a pioneer quad hifi system at the time.
All those lame-o's who purchase the same old classic rock dinosaur albums over and over again deserve everything they get. It is just supply and demand: if squillions of predictable dullards all want the same thing, then record companies can charge like a wounded bull for it. Look at Rush's audience towards the end, they would have shelled out for recordings of their heroes expelling gas after a bad curry as long as it came in a shiny package.
Id blame the saps nerds and anoraks that buy them , sorry if that cap fits, personally I’ve got a subscription to Spotify. Usually I’m a bit out of it by the time I’m listening to dsotm so it could be being played by monkeys for all I care
Here's the story about the marbles. Storm Thorgerson explained this to us at an awards ceremony in 2012 which I attended: The marbles were meant to rattle around in the box and create a mysterious rattling sound in order to perplex the buyer. That was the purpose of them. But the factory mistakenly wrapped them in plastic thus defeating the entire point of the loose marbles.
Remastering is based on the advancement of technology that creates a better sounding version on all formats. The album needs to stay as current with the advancement of compression studios have come to use since the old analog compression used back in the 70's. Most of the listeners would appreciate High Definition verses High Fidelity that we were limited to on plastic phonograph versions. Plus today's music is mastered to be played as a Mp3 downloaded from the Cloud which has gotten better year after year.
@@MatthewNorthMusic That's all highly debatable as to JR"s assertions. I bought the 2 CD "Discovery" edition of Dark Side a few years back with the live album on Disc 2, and honestly, the remastered album CD on Disc One sounded harsh and spikey or something, no matter what I played it on, even in the car, but the live album on Disc 2 sounded bloody fantastic! I was very disappointed in the "remaster" of the album. I think it was brickwalled a bit, as well.
At this stage with these albums, remastering is just code for ‘making it louder’. Unless there’s a true case of presenting the songs with justifiable new mixes, as with Revolver, there’s just no point. It’s a cash grab. That said there have been some really great re-issues lately that have benefited from a remix and remaster. Steven Wilson’s work on the Gentle Giant LPs being one of them.
You say the price of this box set puts it out of reach of normal people. I think the reasoning is that normal people would not buy this anyway! It's aimed at a few rich, aging rockers with more dollars than sense ...
For sure and without generalising mostly men. Over 65 with big pensions and a collection of guitars on the wall that they can't play. ! My theory is this roll on 20 years and there will be a glut of rare records and guitars from estate of rich old men who's families don't want this stuff !!!
I went skip diving last year when I saw a few LPs on top of some rubbish. I found a 1973 pressing of dark side of the moon among them. Also some other pink Floyd albums. Their now in my small collection.
The original cd masters sound more like how it sounded originally.. the remasters sound bass boosted.. if you pick out the wall .. comfortably numb is sped up slightly on the remaster.. The first big box versions of the wall sound absolutely glorious..
Does anyone think they're not releasing the 2023 gatefold remaster LP on its own in order to direct the 50th anniversary appetite to the boxset and the remaster that is still.widely available? Do we think the 2023 LP will eventually be released on its own once they see enough of the boxsets sell? Honestly, I'm not even really interested in the 2023 LP itself; I just want the gatefold, but I doubt I'm such a sucker that I'll buy the boxset just for it. With the exception of Neil Young, Hendrix, and Nirvana, I don't see much value in live albums on vinyl. Much rather listen to Wembley on CD than vinyl.
I'm considering getting the 50th anniversary since I do not have the Immersion, I've only got the basic CD. It seems like the biggest thing you miss with the 50th anniversary over the Immersion is the CD3 with early versions and extra tracks. There isn't any way to get a copy just that CD by itself?
Remaster it by all means but keep it true to the original form as it was intended to be. I've got Original record. CD and DVD. The flaming lips did. dark side of the moon. I think. It was absolutely horrible. I was descusted. How could anybody do that to a classic album. The crap that these musicItions bring out nowadays. And I wouldn't even call them musicItions far from it.Thank Gould I was born in a different era than today. With fantastic bands like pink Floyd. From 🇬🇧👍👍 an old cockney gal
A couple of years ago that would be selling for £150. Revolver was a £120 retailing for £180 and a cheap shoddy pressing from the Czech Republic to cut costs. They are doing what they always do. I'll buy the live album though.
Hello Matthew. Greetings from Vancouver British Columbia Canada. I"m a 66 years of age fan of Pink Floyd that was first introduced to the Floyd sound when I was about 17 years of age. A nice stretch of listening to the music of Pink Floyd but I am certainly not as well informed as you are when it comes to matters about this great band. I was just browsing around TH-cam and by some good old serendipity came upon your channel. Nice job on this piece about PF's Dark Side box set from Immersion and how it compares to the new 50th anniversary edition about this great band. I have been away from collecting music for a bit and am now getting back into it and was just thinking about what I would like to have as a nice bit of memorabilia for some of the artists that I really enjoy. Low and behold I came upon what you presented here and it has helped me immensely in what to look for. This box set from Immersion that you have shown here is a very nice looking set and it might just be what I'm looking for. Now to find it at a price that I think is still fair value I suppose. I can't see buying the new 50th edition with what you have described it as. I would still like some vinyl but I will likely look for that somewhere other than what the 50th has to offer. I liked your presentation so much I have subscribed to your channel and look forward to seeing what else you might be commenting on in regards to music. Thank you and may peace be with you.
Regarding surround sound, the 5.1 mix is one of the best 5.1 mixes I've heard. I agree that in the cinema the sound for surround mixes is often not immersive, but providing you have the right set up, the 5.1 for Dark Side is incredible, with full use of all 5 speakers. It's truly immersive. I' never listen to the album in stereo, the 5.1 mix is my go to - it's that good. I agree the price for the new box is ridiculous. An easy pass for me; even more so as I own the Immersion set,
Among the many versions of this album I got a copy of the German quadraphonic on vinyl with the red band on the top of the cover and still have it but haven't listened to it in a really long time... I never had a true quad set up just a good stereo, turntable amp and speakers etc but I remember being struck by how different it sounded in terms of bits that just weren't there on the original or at least far lower down in the mix and less prominent in stereo... I'd be interested in how much this differs or compares to the newer fangled 5.1 mixes....
Several years ago I bought the Obfuscation box set with the misunderstanding that it contained the Pompeii concert film on blu-ray. Much to my disappointment it was only excerpts and not the complete film. But it was good to have those songs available on a CD, especially the awesome live version of Echoes. I'd love to see a nice blu-ray version of the film released-not the horrible director's cut with the cheap CGI images of Pompeii. I still have my vinyl copy of Dark Side of the Moon that I got for Christmas with the little freebies, although I lost one of the stickers and the two posters are a little tattered. I am a fan of the band but don't snap up ever remix that comes out, although I might get the recent remix release of Animals. I'm fine with what I have in my library.
The Version of Pompeii on the early years was a mess, some of it was sourced from laserdisc!! Not proper HD. I don't mind the 'Extra' bits not being there the fake 'recording in the studio' stuff and Nicks crustless Apple Pie.. Its a shame Pompeii has never been released with the original sound mix (no heartbeat sound at the start) and splicing together Echoes was awful. One of the joys of Pompeii was it being split into 2 and book-ending the film.
It's not perfect I think, but I found this cleaned up version of Pompeii while scouring the web a while back and saved it. It's in the proper pitch, for one thing, so many versions were pitched up and I never wanted to listen to them... drive.google.com/file/d/1PTvx7O72Se0Ew_qEcha0Uhk9lKfomHnn/view?usp=sharing
@@MatthewNorthMusic I've noticed Live at Pompeii from Obfuscation sounds terrible! Could you point me toward the best audio quality of Live at Pompeii that I can listen to on my phone?
I have the 2011 remaster and the 30th anniversary with the super audio CD. I own a Sony Blu-ray player specifically for my 5.1 channel CDs like the SACD. Dark side sounds awesome in 5.1
I don’t own anything in this box set. I don’t think I even have a physical copy of Dark Side of the Moon. I’m new to music collecting, but I’ve always been big on huge, overstuffed-with-memorabilia box sets just like this. That being said, seeing the price they’re asking for this is just absolutely gutting, especially as a Canadian (the price is $433 here). I don’t know what to do. I want either the 50th or immersion set (which I don’t think I’ll be able to find for under $200), and the immersion set has twice the content, but the 50th set has the Atmos mix and the hardcover book which are also things I’m big on. I’m torn.
I couldn't have said it better myself. I'm in the same boat as you right down to also being a Canadian. Us Canadians do seem to pay more for everything too. I have travelled extensively all over the world and I try to check out what other countries are paying for their enjoyment of certain items and invariably we usually pay more than most others. The high price of living in a wonderful country I suppose.
Just go buy the 1985 Dark Side of the Moon CD (Harvest- Japanese pressing with black label on CD) and listen to that, it's the best edition of the album, apart from perhaps, the orig. vinyl pressings. Shouldn't cost more than $50.
I have the original box set and won't be buying the new version. As for sound quality I think the CD remasters sound far better than the original CD release which dates back from a time where digital mastering was still in its infancy. But of course it also depends of the quality of your Hi-Fi system.
Pretty much sums up what I think - too little new stuff and waaaaaay overpriced - I would be 'prime' pf buyer and I'm thinking long and hard - make it nearer £100 and it's a reasonable deal
All their comments on 'Money, 'Welcome to the Machine' and 'Have a Cigar' about sum this release up I wonder who made the decisions regarding content/price?
Is the ENTIRE WEMBLEY LIVE SHOW coming out on CD, or Blu Ray? I have the Dark Side and WYWH Immersion box sets where they stupidly broke up the tracks over the 2 box sets. What they left off was Echoes from the Wembley show. That's what I want, the entire Wembley show on blu ray or at least a cd. If I can't get that, I'm out for sure.
I'm a huge PF fan as well. I agree. The last thing I bought was the Animals remix, which I do enjoy. Otherwise you can't keep remastering an already great sounding album and expect to hear any difference that justifies the price. As far as Darkside, I have a first pressing CD, the Sax remaster CD, the 2011 Experience edition for the live recording, and the 2016 Grundman LP. The only thing I'm really waiting for is a release of The Wall Live Blu-ray which probably won't happen. We don't even know if Roger has enough good footage to make a full length concert release.
Bought a couple of CDs from Torre Records (many years ago of course) that had water damaged CD paper inserts - never really came across it in any other shop, odd. Re DSotM: That Quad version, and the demo version, are really interesting and together with the live, HiRes and other stuff made the old Immersion well worth the £53 (incl p&p) I paid. And I got marbles (albeit, they're only black with stickers!). BTW The 4xCD Revolver Super Deluxe I got for £34 as FLACs - great deal.
they honestly could've done so much more. At the very least, why not make the vinyls coloured? Or have printed images on the vinyls themselves. Something, anything to give an incentive to buy it
Their merch has slipped in quality, big time, too. In both design and production. I'm guessing the majority of the people in charge of sales and PR are more interested in profit than the band's legacy. Which is a real shame. A real ironic shame
I DEFINITELY AGREE with that comment on "Is There Anybody Out There"! That version really is tje superior version and REALLY showcases some of Rick Wright's very best piano work. It's absolutely beautiful and it would not be the version it is without him! I've sern them for twice for the 87/88 tour and twice for the 94 but..unfortunately, I didn't get to see all 4 together and while seeing The Wall in 2010 was a once in lifetime chance, I couldn't help but wonder what those original 80/81 shows were like. Good breakdown and I also agree with my older copies sounding just as good. I still have my vinyl copy and Dark Side was the first album I ever owned. It's a masterpiece and for them to 'top' that was a VERY difficult task. Wish You Were Here happens to be Dave's personal favorite. Hmm. 🤔 That's a hard call right there but Dark Side just holds a special place for me. Again, I saw Waters do that too in 2006 but it wasn't the same.
Dark Side of the Moon was on the platter when I was born and has been in my head ever since, apart from when Dad bought Out of the Blue. Then my little brother was born and the options were Animals or Discovery. Needless to say he was more successful than me. But I retain the special cartridge.
The last few years I always listen to bootlegs more than the studio albums. I have a good amount of live shows from 1971-1981. I wish PF would start putting out “official” bootlegs like the Wembley release. I already had it but the official with the posters is real cool.
I have the same issue with Kraftwerk's 2009 remasters. they're too expensive, they're lacking content, and they're barely remastered. I own all of the original KW albums. Kraftwerk, Kraftwerk 2, Ralf & Florian, Autobahn, Radioaktivität, Trans Europa Express, Die Mensch-Maschine, Computerwelt, Electric Café, and Tour De France Soundtracks. all Japanese vinyl. If I were to buy the remasters, it would cost me $455 (the first three haven't been re-released). when I want to listen to KW songs, I'll listen to Oyten '81 (missing some later songs, though it has a demo of Music Non Stop) or Le Bataclan 1975 (no Autobahn, but it has the entire 1st and some of the 2nd and 3rd albums). also, Kraftwerk needs to bring back the PalaLido '81 box set (it was only released during the Italy 1981 tour). I was lucky, and saw them at the Palasport In Bologna during the same tour, so I bought the box set, and it's the best live album ever made. it included the following items: 8 posters, the PaliLado gig on Compact Cassette, 8Track, Vinyl, and 7 inch open reel tape, a signed ticket, a replica of the bracelet that Ralf wore on the tour, a T-shirt, a hoodie, a flat bill hat, and a VHS and Betamax tape of the concert on video. it was about $200 back in 1981, and I saw one for sale for $45,000 a few years ago.
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"Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash". Oh, the irony!
They’re the old folks now, time to get greedy af 😂
@@Balrog-tf3bg All bands do if they last long enough.
Yhr dong is sarcastic: Pink Floyd is anti money.
@@missingremote4388 I think Nick Mason's £80+ million car collection would disagree with you there...
@@missingremote4388 Wake up , grow up Mr. Gullible . Floyd being anti money is like brothels being anti sex . Don't be so naive .
The 50th anniversary of the biggest selling rock LP of all time.
£250 for yet ANOTHER 'Remaster' of the same LP, a previously released 1974 concert and more overpriced memorabilia - and of course, the obligatory overpriced hardback book of photo's we've all seen before - but not one single session out-take or demo, no new interviews or documentary, absolutely no previously unreleased material whatsoever. Disgraceful. All I can hear right now is the sound of the cash registers that open side 2. How many more blu-ray DVD's and 5.1 stereo remixes of the same LP do we possibly need? This is such a wasted opportunity.
I bought my vinyl copy in...Oh yes, 1973. Still got it of course. No idea where the poster and the stickers went, though. None of us knew what to do with them in those days. Quite a new development for us.
a lot of us Floyd nuts pinned the posters on their bedroom walls......
now that really was immersion !
I lost mine too, lol!!
But yeah I still have the one I bought, for a lot of money, for me at that time, and it still sounds great.
Now I bought a remastered copy at, of all places, Walmart. Since I work there I get a 10% discount. So I got it for $21. It sounds fantastic, and it came with all the goodies the original had. I’m gonna pass on this box set.
Stick them on stuff and hang up the poster lol
You didn't know how to use a poster or stickers? Word?
Poster and stickers go on The Wall
I saw Pink Floyd play dark side at the Rainbow Theatre in Finsbury Park in November 1973 at the Robert Wyatt benefit concert and it still remains as the best version of it live
I'm good with the Immersion box set... I'm at a point in my life where I don't care about "new" remixes/remasters/etc...
I am with you there
I am 67 and have been a Floyd fan since my older brother introduced me to them in 1969 with Atom Heart Mother, and I saw them with the Momentary Laps Of Reason tour at Wembley Stadium in 88, there is NO way on earth I would pay that price for this new release. It seems the only thing that matters is "Money" not the fans.
I would have to agree, I think they lost their marbles years ago. This practice (done sadly by a lot of bands) of both trolling and fleecing the fans at the same time is beyond a joke. Its not like they've haven't got enough money/had enough off the fans
I was 16 and very rarely skipped school but one day I did, went with a girl named Linda Godwin to her house, her older brother was there, he had some pot, I had never been stoned before but that day I got pretty stoned for the first time. He played a Black Sabbath record then he put on Pink Floyds Umma Gumma, that blew my mind, I was stunned, had never heard anything like it. I asked him who it was he said Pink Floyd, the next day I went to the record store to buy Umma Gumma, the guy there said 'we don't have it' I was very disappointed, so I asked 'well what do you have by them?' he said 'all we have is this' and held up a copy of DSOTM, I sighed and said 'oh ok' still extremely disappointed cause I had my heart set on Umma. i begrudgingly paid for it and drive home hoping it would be at least comparable to Umma. About a week later they began playing Money on the radio and the rest is history about a year later stores had copies of Umma Gumma so I finally git it!, still have that copy of it too.
I’ve always been of the opinion that Dark Side of the Moon is the closest that man has ever come to perfection. I’ve got three versions of the album. One I downloaded from iTunes so I could listen in my phone at work. It came with a live version and a video documentary of the making of the original re-mastering. Next, I bought a re-production vinyl after I gave up on finding a vintage copy that was in good shape after years of searching. Finally, I did find a vintage copy that was in excellent condition that still had the original inserts. Also had the CD but I gave it to my son after he bought his first car.
DSOTM can be improved. Water´s version of Comfortably Numb goes deeper than the original.
@LeBe No. It can be altered, but not improved.
@@andrewhaines3259 It didn´t do the job. Did it make the world a better place? I think hardly anybody got the message, really listened to the words.
Should have kept the CD. The reason that DSOTM stayed on the charts so long is that "audiophiles" kept replacing their vinyl copy after a few plays. Once the CD came out there was no need. Perfect the first play, perfect the 1000th play.
@@lebe220 That's the Wall and Waters thinks he is PF. He's not. Leave it alone.
Very good Matt 🌗I don’t know why they don’t do a nice Blu-ray stand-alone release like they did with “Animals”. I’ve got the SACD of DSOTM.
Who knows but there you go. They could learn a lot from Marillion 4 disc box set and book and never more than about £28
absolutely the Marillion sets are fantastic and value for money!! Oi Floyd - No !!
@@terrencesclassicrockcorner I actually own and love the Moving Pictures box set, the YYZ show is the best live Rush I've heard. The Atmos on the Blu-Ray is good fun and the records (although I'm not a fan of the format) are really well mastered and pressed with quality jackets+sleeves. The CD has been altered from the Sean Magee mastering so it's good to have both that and the original on the Blu-Ray stereo layer - both have their upsides to my ears. I rather enjoy the included tat as well (and I don't usually), really nice paper/card stuff and quality trinkets. The book is gorgeous.
I didn't get any of the other 40th anniversary box sets, but I made an exception for Moving Pictures because I was still in search of a version that sounds natural to my ears and it looked really well presented too. Both layers of the Blu-Ray as well as the LP come closer than I've yet heard. I've not heard the coveted 03 Atomic, but I've got the 25.8P which is supposedly similar and sounds frankly bizarre to me. The 2112 box set may have been better value as it was much cheaper back in the day, but most of the musical content was frankly offensive, and I doubt the DVD sounds better than my Japanese AMCY CD. For AFtK, Hemispheres and PeW, I settled for the CD sets for the extra content as I quite like the Sector 2 versions.
Bottom line is, I won't pretend that an album and a 2-hour live show copied across a bunch of different formats for £200 is good value to most people, but I personally got my money's worth out of it as pretty much every track on every disc is useful to me.
Nothing to do with Pink Floyd... They should stop saying 'Pink Floyd release...'... Pink Floyd haven't released anything for 8 years.. this is very much 'Pink Floyd's Record Company Releases.'. .. big difference. Long after all the members are dead will this cash grab shit continue.
My favourite album of all time which made a lasting impression on me when I first heard it aged 10 in 1979.
Imagine this, but limited edition, and at a 70's price. Just to be kind. I know, madness. A really interesting video, I was quite unaware of the history of Floyd box sets, but I've now got very good context for where this latest offering sits. An eye watering price, especially in the current financial climate.
The punk band Crass had stickers on their records saying you shouldn't buy it for more than X amount (I think it was like £1.50).
No Doubt!!! I'm willing to bet that Dark Side Of The Moon is the most recognizable album cover of all time.
It so is.
How much are you willing to bet?
I'd have to put the cover of Abbey Road or Sgt. Pepper at #1. Dark Side in the top 5 for sure. No offence to my fellow Floyd freaks out there.
Thriller!
Tubular Bells?
A lot of damn good covers back then.
It's $299.99 on Amazon here in the States. I'll stick with my old cd.
I was surprised of the lack of content in this new remaster box set. I have the Immersion set, the 20th Anniversary cd,30th SACD,Mobile Fidelity gold cd and 1974 Japanese tour edition on vinyl. Im set when it comes to copies of this album. The new Animals remix i do need on CD. Great video!
The Animals remix is a waste of money. There are a lot of little things that made the dark mood of the original that are gone now. They went for clarity over atmosphere and removed things including reverb, David's acoustic textures, etc.
all about money for basically stuff u already have or could get cheaper. all this remastered crap too, i dont care for any of it, just prefer original album, also not fussed for live stuff, 200 odd quid takes the piss, iv brought cars for that ha.....they should highlight the track "money" on this album. thing is ppl fall for it too and buy it....give it few yrs and they`ll be another one, just like bands when they do endless best of albums crap.
Remasters are in many cases just an excuse for major labels to re-sell us the same old shit again and again, in worse and worse incarnations. I still have my 70s german LP release (sadly missing the poster since it's used) and my MFSL ultradisc release and i don't need anything else to be honest. I do miss the Alan Parsons Quadrophonic mix sadly. Who knows... maybe one day...
Every time they reissue it becomes less interesting to me, and the group becomes more irritating. Shame, as I liked them a lot once, starting in 1980.
That's actually a very good way of putting it. The immersion box was at the time An exciting prospect nothing since has been close
Thanks for the video! Can you remember what the fault with the Blu-ray from the 2011 box was? As to immersing sound, i hear you. As an audio-man i can tell you (and your viewers) that if you want to feel immersed in sound, you just need 2 x 2 speakers, preferably 2 different sets. Put the bigger/louder ones in front of you, the 2nd set behind you, and switch your amp to 4-channel stereo. After all the experimentation, we found this to be the most immersive.
I quite agree. It looks to me as if they're releasing the same thing over and over on the various audio formats that have been developed in the intervening years since the album was first released.
Because they know Pink Floyd fans will buy it. Much like The Beatles fans, they're absolute suckers.
50 year anniversary is a big thing
i hope the target audience is teenagers and 20 somethings ( Do they still collect albums? new cars don't come with CD player)
"Remastering" ever since the age of compact discs began become a marketing magic trick for convince people to buy on a new format an album they already own or create the need for those who doesn't own them yet to buy it at last, and then a cliché for reissues and repressings every few years since the previous release.
The same nowadays for anniversary editions, only worth it for completists and for people who couldn't get or afford the previous anniversary edition a decade ago, even more so since the 2010s vinyl became relevant once again and record companies put whatever you want them or not CDs, vinyl and Bluray discs all together on the package, so basically you're buying two or three times the same contents all at once.
The Dark Side immersion set proves that the show from Brighton 1972 was fully recorded....I'd happily pay for that above the 74 Wembley show which has been available for decades
The Bootleg version of 74 wembley gig is the one to own cause it includes Echoes unlike the offical version that does not!
It is on the Early Years set. Box only.
For me the reason to keep a bootleg version is because it hasn’t been messed with. Listen to the opening of Time…sounds just like the studio. But that’s not how the band sounded live in 1974. I want to hear the band as band flubs and all.
@@vivalapsych I aggree!
"The quadrophonic isssue sounds different" Amazing!!
It is not just Pink Floyd doing this.. It is ridiculous how many bands are putting out big beautiful expensive box sets. RUSH for example are going overboard in putting out these Awesome sets! YES has been doing this for years! A Fan can go broke just collecting the newest fine things that legendary bands put out. Imagine the $$ that it would take to collect All of the King Crimson catalogue rareities and such! There is a fine line in being a collector of music! I have not bought an album or CD in 10 years now as I realized that collecting was a futile game. One day I had a very nice collection of All of Iron Maiden. I was shopping and saw that they came out with newer copies with extras from "Castle Records". They were beautiful, but from that point I said NO to buying more of Maiden or Anything ever again. Everything that is available is on the NET! For the most part.. If it is not there, then it probably is not worth the time, IMHO.
Frank Zappa released over 60 albums whilst he was alive. His estate has released more since, and there is a vault full of demos and jams still to go. If you were to buy a full Zappa collection not only would you have spent money on excellent music, you would be an awesome person too. There's no evidence to back that up, but it's fact ;)
Is it Rush or is it the corporation that owns the music?
It seems like as the kids who listened to this album in the 70's and 80's aged into real jobs the record company keep coming up with new "enhancements" and boxed sets to continue to separate us from our wallets. But I'm sure that's a coincidence. 🤔😏
People go crazy for STUFF and then get taken advantage of. All my music are FLAC files on a good server and that’s it, very little physical media. Have a fairly high end system, would much rather spend on great sound reproduction than stuff. It’s all about the music man
You’re absolutely right, wait for it to come out on eBay. Still using my jamo speakers I bought in 1990, they still sound incredible! Your box set is now selling for £250 on eBay!
You're younger than I. It's hard for me to imagine how it would be to become aware of DSOTM years after its release. I wore it out the year it was released. Honestly, it's a undeniable part of my personal history.
My daughter used to tease me and say Pink Floyd sucked. Last christmas I bought her vinyl copies of DSOTM, WYWH, The Wall and Animals for her record player. As long as we keep playing it, the music will live forever.
I'm looking forward to the 51st anniversary extended, expanded, re-re-mastered quintuple channel cosmic remix edition.
Hear, Hear ! MONEY, "Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash" i want a new quad or even the old quad mix on new vinyl.
Dude, you have TOTALLY nailed it on every aspect of what makes this new 50th Anniversary box such an overpriced, content-poor disappointment. Surely, they could've gone the extra mile and delivered a vinyl box with all or as much of the bonus Immersion content as could be fit onto multiple LP's. And don't even get me started on the fact that they lazily included a hardcover book that can be purchased as a standalone item for far less, much like the 1974 Wembley album (which I plan to get just by itself). Likewise, I can't be the only one who feels that they the dropped the ball even harder on this than with the deluxe "Animals" box (in itself ANOTHER missed opportunity for an Immersion-like experience).
Pink Floyd is a corporation. Its worth pointing out that Roger Waters gets a bad rap for suing for the use of Pink Floyds name, but at that time Pink Floyd was essentially bankrupt and he wanted to prevent exactly THIS from happening. Thats likely in part why he's now doing his OWN version of Dark Side of the Moon. Pink Floyd is a 'machine', thats what he was referring to. When you give them money, you feed the machine. I think 'maybe' I paid for Diviision Bell, that was probably the last time I paid for ANY music except individual artists. Stop feeding the machine. Roger OR Pink Floyd don't need any more money. If you are dishing out money for this stuff, well, I won't say you deserve to get ripped off, but its not like you can't listen to Dark Side without buying yet another copy.
Why is this surprising? And why does one need to re-purchase these albums every time there's an anniversary? You're suckers if you keep buying this crap. Who's Next has how many "deluxe" "special" editions? Six? Eight? Haven't you people caught on yet? You don't need this stuff "remastered' every ten years. They don't do better and better jobs each time. The people who knew how to engineer this stuff are mostly dead, or are going to be soon, and the engineers who have come since just don't have the taste or the sensibility to improve the source material. I heard all of the remasters of The Moody Blues albums: horrible. They got so into making sure you can hear every instrument that they destroyed the blend, the "mix" of the albums. They de-psychedelicized the mixes, inexplicably, so you can hear a little more bass drum. The Beatles remasters are wildly inconsistent. People think that boosting the bass (which is the easiest thing to do in remastering) means you're improving the mix. I don't know what THIS version sounds like......but I'm quite happy with the ten thousand versions I have of this, and Wish You Were Here. And enough with these "anniversaries", like we're supposed to get a cake for these albums. How un-rock & roll can you get?
I enjoyed the 5.1 darkside of the moon... 2003
I did not like the post 2000 remix at all. (I haven't heard the most recent yet.) It just sounds like they pushed the foreground into the background and vice versa. It ruined all of the nuances that made DSOTM the album that it was. I also had a 90's cd and it was the digital capture of the vinyl you would expect from the time, making it great. But, that's just my opinion based on decades of hearing it one way then being exposed to another.
I also saw the Pay Per View that ended up sort of becoming what became Pulse. It was the same shows but different cuts from different days and to be honest, it was superior. I remember being so excited for Pulse to come out because the VHS we had made of the Pay-Per-View was getting worn out as my dad and I were both big fans. And then Pulse came out, it wasn't the same setlist. It was the same songs in the same order, but it was captured over 2 days, and the selection used and video was different from the Pay-Per-View I had seen and recorded. That VHS in no longer viewable and I'm left with only the memory and spiteful reminders when I hear tracks from Pulse.
Fuck the boxset, I'm gonna just get the Live at Wembley vinyl of Dark Side of the Moon that they're releasing for $30 and then wait for the book to become cheaper. Sadly, it won't have any of the demos from Wish You Were Here or Animals on it, but what can you do
Bit crap that we're not getting anything new and actually *less* than the scraps we've had before.
However, that's not important. We should really be getting really, really angry that Pink Floyd are now using a prism, not like the old days when Dark Side was free of such terrifying concepts.
I totally agree with you, we the loyal fans are being ripped off with these exorbitant prices, and not just for Pink Floyd box sets, I'm also a David Bowie fan, and have bought most of the box sets, but the last one, was a rip off
Back to current issue, I will not shell out for the DSOTM box, I own the 73' album and 30th anniversary CD, also bought the 2011 2disc discovery edition, so like you say who needs any more .
Happy to hear I’m not the only person who prefers Is There Anybody Out There: The Wall Live over the studio recordings 🙂
Every time
Oh yeah anytime I’m going through the albums I always skip over the studio version of the wall. This is probably gonna sound weird, but I don’t even think I own it. Always live version. That’s how you know a band is incredible; when they’re better live.
although the wall live album is a frankenstein of multiple nights from earl's court it's still maybe the best "live" album...
I saw pink floyd at free trade hall manchester 1972, playing dsotm. They played using full quadraphonic sound. I bought their dsotm album version in sq quadraphonic. I had a pioneer quad hifi system at the time.
I agree with you 100% I'll buy the stand alone live album and I'm good.
All those lame-o's who purchase the same old classic rock dinosaur albums over and over again deserve everything they get. It is just supply and demand: if squillions of predictable dullards all want the same thing, then record companies can charge like a wounded bull for it. Look at Rush's audience towards the end, they would have shelled out for recordings of their heroes expelling gas after a bad curry as long as it came in a shiny package.
The immersion box from 2011 will do me just fine.
Think I will just keep playing my 1973 LP.....ok, on the quieter bits it does sound like bacon frying but at my age my hearing is shot anyway.
Id blame the saps nerds and anoraks that buy them , sorry if that cap fits, personally I’ve got a subscription to Spotify. Usually I’m a bit out of it by the time I’m listening to dsotm so it could be being played by monkeys for all I care
250 quid for a legacy/reputation tainter.Incredible move.
No kidding. I have mfsl and immersion. Along with a dsd128 from 1/2" master at 15ips, which is unreal and smokes the rest
There's maybe a hundred million units of this lp world over at minimum! Let the Industry further bankrupt itself flogging a dead horse.
Here's the story about the marbles. Storm Thorgerson explained this to us at an awards ceremony in 2012 which I attended: The marbles were meant to rattle around in the box and create a mysterious rattling sound in order to perplex the buyer. That was the purpose of them. But the factory mistakenly wrapped them in plastic thus defeating the entire point of the loose marbles.
Never knew that. Rattle that Box!
Remastering is based on the advancement of technology that creates a better sounding version on all formats. The album needs to stay as current with the advancement of compression studios have come to use since the old analog compression used back in the 70's. Most of the listeners would appreciate High Definition verses High Fidelity that we were limited to on plastic phonograph versions. Plus today's music is mastered to be played as a Mp3 downloaded from the Cloud which has gotten better year after year.
Ok then what advancements in mastering technology has there been since 2011 ?
@@MatthewNorthMusic That's all highly debatable as to JR"s assertions. I bought the 2 CD "Discovery" edition of Dark Side a few years back with the live album
on Disc 2, and honestly, the remastered album CD on Disc One sounded harsh and spikey or something, no matter what I played it on, even in the car, but
the live album on Disc 2 sounded bloody fantastic! I was very disappointed in the "remaster" of the album. I think it was brickwalled a bit, as well.
At this stage with these albums, remastering is just code for ‘making it louder’. Unless there’s a true case of presenting the songs with justifiable new mixes, as with Revolver, there’s just no point. It’s a cash grab. That said there have been some really great re-issues lately that have benefited from a remix and remaster. Steven Wilson’s work on the Gentle Giant LPs being one of them.
You say the price of this box set puts it out of reach of normal people. I think the reasoning is that normal people would not buy this anyway! It's aimed at a few rich, aging rockers with more dollars than sense ...
For sure and without generalising mostly men. Over 65 with big pensions and a collection of guitars on the wall that they can't play. ! My theory is this roll on 20 years and there will be a glut of rare records and guitars from estate of rich old men who's families don't want this stuff !!!
Gilmour wants nothing to do with Pink Floyd, but he doesn't mind making millions in boxed sets and remastering.
I went skip diving last year when I saw a few LPs on top of some rubbish.
I found a 1973 pressing of dark side of the moon among them. Also some other pink Floyd albums. Their now in my small collection.
That is fantastic well done 👍
Didn't floyd sell all their copyrights so will this be the Record company alone money grabbing release?
The original cd masters sound more like how it sounded originally.. the remasters sound bass boosted.. if you pick out the wall .. comfortably numb is sped up slightly on the remaster..
The first big box versions of the wall sound absolutely glorious..
I have no complaints with any of the original Floyd CDs or any 1980s CDs to be perfectly honest
As long as fools keep buying, they'll keep releasing.
Does anyone think they're not releasing the 2023 gatefold remaster LP on its own in order to direct the 50th anniversary appetite to the boxset and the remaster that is still.widely available? Do we think the 2023 LP will eventually be released on its own once they see enough of the boxsets sell?
Honestly, I'm not even really interested in the 2023 LP itself; I just want the gatefold, but I doubt I'm such a sucker that I'll buy the boxset just for it. With the exception of Neil Young, Hendrix, and Nirvana, I don't see much value in live albums on vinyl. Much rather listen to Wembley on CD than vinyl.
I’m sure the 50th vinyl will get a release… give it six months…..as will the blu ray…
I have got all the Immersion box set all great no way am I going to go for 250 quid book I will get later
Warner music group owns the Pink Floyd catalog. This is on them.
The LP"s in the set are cut from digital masters. Digital LP's in a "Deluxe set" Okey Dokey.
I'm considering getting the 50th anniversary since I do not have the Immersion, I've only got the basic CD. It seems like the biggest thing you miss with the 50th anniversary over the Immersion is the CD3 with early versions and extra tracks. There isn't any way to get a copy just that CD by itself?
Remaster it by all means but keep it true to the original form as it was intended to be. I've got Original record. CD and DVD. The flaming lips did. dark side of the moon. I think. It was absolutely horrible. I was descusted. How could anybody do that to a classic album. The crap that these musicItions bring out nowadays. And I wouldn't even call them musicItions far from it.Thank Gould I was born in a different era than today. With fantastic bands like pink Floyd. From 🇬🇧👍👍 an old cockney gal
I don't get anything about the flaming lips sadly.
A couple of years ago that would be selling for £150. Revolver was a £120 retailing for £180 and a cheap shoddy pressing from the Czech Republic to cut costs. They are doing what they always do. I'll buy the live album though.
I won't buy anything if it's pressed by GZ they are just awful
@@MatthewNorthMusic Agree 100%
I once dreamt that my doctor gave me a prescription for dark Side Of The Moon. !
Hello Matthew. Greetings from Vancouver British Columbia Canada. I"m a 66 years of age fan of Pink Floyd that was first introduced to the Floyd sound when I was about 17 years of age. A nice stretch of listening to the music of Pink Floyd but I am certainly not as well informed as you are when it comes to matters about this great band. I was just browsing around TH-cam and by some good old serendipity came upon your channel. Nice job on this piece about PF's Dark Side box set from Immersion and how it compares to the new 50th anniversary edition about this great band. I have been away from collecting music for a bit and am now getting back into it and was just thinking about what I would like to have as a nice bit of memorabilia for some of the artists that I really enjoy. Low and behold I came upon what you presented here and it has helped me immensely in what to look for. This box set from Immersion that you have shown here is a very nice looking set and it might just be what I'm looking for. Now to find it at a price that I think is still fair value I suppose. I can't see buying the new 50th edition with what you have described it as. I would still like some vinyl but I will likely look for that somewhere other than what the 50th has to offer. I liked your presentation so much I have subscribed to your channel and look forward to seeing what else you might be commenting on in regards to music. Thank you and may peace be with you.
only if it comes with several sheets of LSD otherwise it's not immersive, just expensive
Money
It's a crime
Share it fairly, but don't take a slice of my pie
Money
So they say
Is the root of all evil today
Regarding surround sound, the 5.1 mix is one of the best 5.1 mixes I've heard. I agree that in the cinema the sound for surround mixes is often not immersive, but providing you have the right set up, the 5.1 for Dark Side is incredible, with full use of all 5 speakers. It's truly immersive. I' never listen to the album in stereo, the 5.1 mix is my go to - it's that good. I agree the price for the new box is ridiculous. An easy pass for me; even more so as I own the Immersion set,
It’s rubbish and sounds unnatural. Give me stereo any day.
@@garethde-witt6433 You never heard proper 5.1 equipment. Take your stereo up where it doesn't shine.
@@garethde-witt6433 Not on a decent system, with a mix done well. Some mixes are terrible, but when they are done well there's nothing more immersive.
Among the many versions of this album I got a copy of the German quadraphonic on vinyl with the red band on the top of the cover and still have it but haven't listened to it in a really long time... I never had a true quad set up just a good stereo, turntable amp and speakers etc but I remember being struck by how different it sounded in terms of bits that just weren't there on the original or at least far lower down in the mix and less prominent in stereo... I'd be interested in how much this differs or compares to the newer fangled 5.1 mixes....
@@lucifersamslittertray I also have this version (amongst many others), and it does sound completely different in places
I’ll buy it on vinyl
I *think* the SQ (Quad) version is Australian. The pressing I have is ;)
Thank you
Several years ago I bought the Obfuscation box set with the misunderstanding that it contained the Pompeii concert film on blu-ray. Much to my disappointment it was only excerpts and not the complete film. But it was good to have those songs available on a CD, especially the awesome live version of Echoes. I'd love to see a nice blu-ray version of the film released-not the horrible director's cut with the cheap CGI images of Pompeii.
I still have my vinyl copy of Dark Side of the Moon that I got for Christmas with the little freebies, although I lost one of the stickers and the two posters are a little tattered. I am a fan of the band but don't snap up ever remix that comes out, although I might get the recent remix release of Animals. I'm fine with what I have in my library.
The Version of Pompeii on the early years was a mess, some of it was sourced from laserdisc!! Not proper HD. I don't mind the 'Extra' bits not being there the fake 'recording in the studio' stuff and Nicks crustless Apple Pie.. Its a shame Pompeii has never been released with the original sound mix (no heartbeat sound at the start) and splicing together Echoes was awful. One of the joys of Pompeii was it being split into 2 and book-ending the film.
It's not perfect I think, but I found this cleaned up version of Pompeii while scouring the web a while back and saved it. It's in the proper pitch, for one thing, so many versions were pitched up and I never wanted to listen to them...
drive.google.com/file/d/1PTvx7O72Se0Ew_qEcha0Uhk9lKfomHnn/view?usp=sharing
@@MatthewNorthMusic I've noticed Live at Pompeii from Obfuscation sounds terrible! Could you point me toward the best audio quality of Live at Pompeii that I can listen to on my phone?
Most sound bad tbh
I’m not being funny, but how many times can you re-buy the same thing ?
Pink Floyd started losing their marbles a long, long time ago...
I have the 2011 remaster and the 30th anniversary with the super audio CD. I own a Sony Blu-ray player specifically for my 5.1 channel CDs like the SACD. Dark side sounds awesome in 5.1
Lost their marbles?… We can only HOPE!…
"They must have taken my marbles away!"
Crazy
I don’t own anything in this box set. I don’t think I even have a physical copy of Dark Side of the Moon. I’m new to music collecting, but I’ve always been big on huge, overstuffed-with-memorabilia box sets just like this. That being said, seeing the price they’re asking for this is just absolutely gutting, especially as a Canadian (the price is $433 here). I don’t know what to do. I want either the 50th or immersion set (which I don’t think I’ll be able to find for under $200), and the immersion set has twice the content, but the 50th set has the Atmos mix and the hardcover book which are also things I’m big on. I’m torn.
I couldn't have said it better myself. I'm in the same boat as you right down to also being a Canadian. Us Canadians do seem to pay more for everything too. I have travelled extensively all over the world and I try to check out what other countries are paying for their enjoyment of certain items and invariably we usually pay more than most others. The high price of living in a wonderful country I suppose.
Just go buy the 1985 Dark Side of the Moon CD (Harvest- Japanese pressing with black label on CD) and listen to that, it's the best edition of the album, apart from
perhaps, the orig. vinyl pressings. Shouldn't cost more than $50.
ah the endless revenue. I will just get the live LP and call it at that with this one.
I have the original box set and won't be buying the new version. As for sound quality I think the CD remasters sound far better than the original CD release which dates back from a time where digital mastering was still in its infancy. But of course it also depends of the quality of your Hi-Fi system.
and no Quadraphonic mix.
Pretty much sums up what I think - too little new stuff and waaaaaay overpriced - I would be 'prime' pf buyer and I'm thinking long and hard - make it nearer £100 and it's a reasonable deal
All their comments on 'Money, 'Welcome to the Machine' and 'Have a Cigar' about sum this release up
I wonder who made the decisions regarding content/price?
Honestly, I still listen to all my favourite music in 128/44 mp3 and am overwhelmingly glad.
Yawn, get to the point
got my 1st TDSOTM LP at a Glasgow woolies back in the mid-70s and it skipped like hell !!!
Is the ENTIRE WEMBLEY LIVE SHOW coming out on CD, or Blu Ray? I have the Dark Side and WYWH Immersion box sets where they stupidly broke up the tracks over the 2 box sets. What they left off was Echoes from the Wembley show. That's what I want, the entire Wembley show on blu ray or at least a cd. If I can't get that, I'm out for sure.
kept me interested for full video...very very good...
We know what conclusion the marketing has come to, and it's DSOTM is iconic, so we will charge iconic prices.
I like The Wall better. Yeah I know it's an unpopular opinion.
So do I
I'm a huge PF fan as well. I agree. The last thing I bought was the Animals remix, which I do enjoy. Otherwise you can't keep remastering an already great sounding album and expect to hear any difference that justifies the price. As far as Darkside, I have a first pressing CD, the Sax remaster CD, the 2011 Experience edition for the live recording, and the 2016 Grundman LP. The only thing I'm really waiting for is a release of The Wall Live Blu-ray which probably won't happen. We don't even know if Roger has enough good footage to make a full length concert release.
Bought a couple of CDs from Torre Records (many years ago of course) that had water damaged CD paper inserts - never really came across it in any other shop, odd.
Re DSotM: That Quad version, and the demo version, are really interesting and together with the live, HiRes and other stuff made the old Immersion well worth the £53 (incl p&p) I paid. And I got marbles (albeit, they're only black with stickers!).
BTW The 4xCD Revolver Super Deluxe I got for £34 as FLACs - great deal.
they honestly could've done so much more. At the very least, why not make the vinyls coloured? Or have printed images on the vinyls themselves. Something, anything to give an incentive to buy it
Their merch has slipped in quality, big time, too. In both design and production.
I'm guessing the majority of the people in charge of sales and PR are more interested in profit than the band's legacy. Which is a real shame. A real ironic shame
I DEFINITELY AGREE with that comment on "Is There Anybody Out There"! That version really is tje superior version and REALLY showcases some of Rick Wright's very best piano work. It's absolutely beautiful and it would not be the version it is without him! I've sern them for twice for the 87/88 tour and twice for the 94 but..unfortunately, I didn't get to see all 4 together and while seeing The Wall in 2010 was a once in lifetime chance, I couldn't help but wonder what those original 80/81 shows were like. Good breakdown and I also agree with my older copies sounding just as good. I still have my vinyl copy and Dark Side was the first album I ever owned. It's a masterpiece and for them to 'top' that was a VERY difficult task. Wish You Were Here happens to be Dave's personal favorite. Hmm. 🤔 That's a hard call right there but Dark Side just holds a special place for me. Again, I saw Waters do that too in 2006 but it wasn't the same.
Dark Side of the Moon was on the platter when I was born and has been in my head ever since, apart from when Dad bought Out of the Blue.
Then my little brother was born and the options were Animals or Discovery. Needless to say he was more successful than me.
But I retain the special cartridge.
The last few years I always listen to bootlegs more than the studio albums. I have a good amount of live shows from 1971-1981. I wish PF would start putting out “official” bootlegs like the Wembley release. I already had it but the official with the posters is real cool.
Very informative. Thank you.
I have the same issue with Kraftwerk's 2009 remasters. they're too expensive, they're lacking content, and they're barely remastered. I own all of the original KW albums. Kraftwerk, Kraftwerk 2, Ralf & Florian, Autobahn, Radioaktivität, Trans Europa Express, Die Mensch-Maschine, Computerwelt, Electric Café, and Tour De France Soundtracks. all Japanese vinyl. If I were to buy the remasters, it would cost me $455 (the first three haven't been re-released). when I want to listen to KW songs, I'll listen to Oyten '81 (missing some later songs, though it has a demo of Music Non Stop) or Le Bataclan 1975 (no Autobahn, but it has the entire 1st and some of the 2nd and 3rd albums).
also, Kraftwerk needs to bring back the PalaLido '81 box set (it was only released during the Italy 1981 tour). I was lucky, and saw them at the Palasport In Bologna during the same tour, so I bought the box set, and it's the best live album ever made. it included the following items: 8 posters, the PaliLado gig on Compact Cassette, 8Track, Vinyl, and 7 inch open reel tape, a signed ticket, a replica of the bracelet that Ralf wore on the tour, a T-shirt, a hoodie, a flat bill hat, and a VHS and Betamax tape of the concert on video. it was about $200 back in 1981, and I saw one for sale for $45,000 a few years ago.