Unboxing & Reviewing the new $500 The Doors - Self Titled from The Electric Recording Company ERC
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Mike unboxing ERC stuff is one of the most anticipated events on the whole internet.
He's so bitter cos they won't sell their records to him at trade, so bitter.
@@mlmcguire74 that's complete crap.
@@vinylrulesok8470true story.
@@mlmcguire74 evidence???
@@vinylrulesok8470 hahahaha bless ya, it's no secret amongst the wider community. Ask the man himself if you don't believe me and if he denies it I will get you the evidence you crave.
Dang dude! Been listening to vinyl since I was 7. I'm now 70 and finished with vinyl. This is a culmination of many recent QC issues in the industry across the board. Thanks
You bought a $500 turd, and possibly saved some of the VC from making the same mistake. Hats off to you good sir!
For 500 bucks, I'd expect Jim Morrison's ghost to come out of the speakers and do a jig, lol
With Elvis singing back up.
Hell yeah😂
I purchased the entire set of Doors 45RPM LPs from Analogue Productions last year and couldn't be happier. $60 for each is a bargain.
and it sounds much better than the ERC reissue
@@DJGeorgeDisco So does my first reissue pressing, 1967 gold Electra label with "Gold Record sold.." label imprinting on front cover. No EQ Lito tape used here, only the original tapes- record pressed the same year it came out. This VG-VG+ likely blows the ERC and it is the way it should sound. The is one of my fav albums of all time.
Yeah I got me the Strang days 45 need to get LA woman and Morrison hotel
I love the 'No mercy' approach. It takes courage to go against the current. Well done Mike.
Honestly, given the view count on Mike’s ERC videos and the discourse on the Hoffman forums, bashing ERC seems to be the cool thing to do these days. Mike isn’t going against the current; quite the opposite.
How much of a current is there with only 300 copies in existence?
@@Digginbehindthedikes I would think the current is created by the industry insiders, not the consumers.
This was the first record I ever bought. I got to see The Doors at the L A Forum December 1968.
Can’t wait for the Fremer rebuttal.
Thank you for the review. I have the AP 45, which sound awesome. Which one is your favourite copy out of all those copies you have? That was such an incisive review. Your honesty has to be commended. We need more of this in the community. 11/10 Many thanks
Mike I really respect your integrity and how you tell it like it is. You know what you are doing and you cover all the issues. You care about the customer. Thanks.
Hands down the most trusted and to the point honest reviewer of vinyl records on TH-cam or the entire internet for that matter. Huge respect and love for Mike at the In Groove. Best TH-cam channel for records by far.
Absolute True
Trust, but verify. 🤔
No doubt! Mike is the real deal.
Clueless lad, he's only dissing this label because they refuse to sell their records to him at trade. Yes, true story!!
@@mlmcguire74 if ts a true story where is your evidence? Personally I don't think Mike gives a shit. He's not exactly slumming it is he? He doesn't look to me like he needs to sell ERC product. I doubt he would anyway since virtually every record he's unboxed has been defective.
ERC does it again! I'm not the biggest Doors fan but I do have a copy in my collection; a decent sounding Electra reissue...
I knew that couldn’t be any good. As a huge Doors fan, I have the mono original along with all three reissues, and the mono mix sounds like crap. I appreciate you taking one for the team.
I can't wait, get the Sharpee ready!
Good review Mike! I picked up the RSD Doors first album mono today. At my record store for 32. It’s a Bernie Grundman. Pressing I was very happy with the sound! Yes they have to stop useing safety copy for release!
Love objective reviews…use to see the doors all over Los Angeles..and of course Love…
I was waiting for another review like this from you enjoyed It man
My copy is a very early 80s Canadian version pressed at the Don Mills plant in Ontario - I grabbed it, near mint, for $20. It sounds incredible.
The 40th anniversary editions of all of the albums were remixed from the multi-tracks but I don't think they were released on Vinyl at all. I listen to those remixes all of the time. I never listen to the original stereo mixes. I always appreciate your honesty Mike! Thank you.
ERC is basically saying that although the tapes are un-useable, they will put it out anyway, go through the motion so they can find 350 disappointed buyers, This is a pretty sad company. Mike's being polite here..
I just got the VMP Mono Cut by Bernie Grundman from the original Mono Master Tapes and was very impressed by the sound and separation and love the sound.
One thing is sure, Mike. The dynamic of your recording on this video is awesome, maaan! True RVG fan here, guys! 😆 I loved the quick conclusion after you got back after listening hahaha
Have this on CD. Good enough.
Yay Mike! It's a milestone! You've discovered editing! The first minute of this video is the best. Just watching you build the story of this hack record distributor with all those quick shots of your past dealings with their products was so great. Keep it up! The live video esthetic is cool but you can see how effective editing can be.
Rich people to hi-fi scams and manufactured scarcity are like flies to poop. I love when he picks these things apart, it's hilarious.
I love hearing the opinions of those who own this record and actually listened to it. Personally, I feel like I am in no position to make an opinion on this considering I don't have the record at all. Only our ears can judge what it is, I do appreciate the context surrounding the creation of this pressing, while it is very unintelligent to make a record from a defective tape I feel like everyone should also remain skeptical. Regardless, I appreciate your honesty and knowledge on this as always with every review you do.
I always appreciate a nuanced, understated, laid back review. :D SRSLY, how are these guys in business? Thanks for doing these. Folks deserve to know this stuff.
Yes, the 7 1/2 ips R2R is amazing!
I don't have anything really valuable but the first time I got a R2R tape and put it in the player I was amazed. And my R2R players isn't a fancy one.
I knew you couldn’t resist this one. Can’t wait!
Thank you for an honest review. I enjoy your reviews of various pressings.
Your passion, humour and professionalism never fails to shine through. Your videos are simply just great stuff. Thanks
Best comment I've ever heard in a review. "It's sh!t!"
My wife asked me what I was laughing at, she just rolled her eyes at me.
"...so, apart from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?" 🤣
As M.L. Gore put it: "Never again is what you swore the time before," you'll buy again, and again, and again. Love the review!
I'm a little confused, did you like the sound or not? 🤣Seriously, I love the "no holds barred" approach. Great job.
no bullshit reviews thank you sir!
Daaamn. Thanks for your honesty Mike. Can’t wait to see the VC fallout over this one…
Since this recording needs help, maybe MoFi should take a stab at it with their DSD step and mastering. MoFi did wonderful on Surrealistic Pillow, another classic record from 1967, that also is not well recorded. But their double 45 version of the Airplane album kicks ass over every other version.
Mazzy .....oh Mazzy....I was watching your GH special for a few minutes, then noticed a Rick Beato interview of Keith Jarrett. I listened for a while and realized how much power that interview had and how wasted an experience listening to two old stale Beatle fans, and all the Rachel jokers has been. Here is a guy who has had debilitating strokes, can no longer play with his left hand, yet still talked forward about his life. You , who have produced no art, still blathering on about what happened 50 years ago.
This whole VC thing has become a dumping ground of wasted money, time and dead man record sales. I remember how the VC was 10 years ago, much more informative 'music' channels than there are now. Now, it is just record-holder-uppers and expensive crap reissues, squares, schtick and toxic clowns. There are channels that steer clear of the toxic clowns and talk actual music, but they are becoming few and far between. People of the VC I say...go out and listen to music, listen to musicians talk music and forget these rank amateurs.
I do hope their DSD step becomes more widely accepted. MoFi does a kick azz job.
@@DJGeorgeDisco agreed
MFSL released it on half speed years ago. I traded a sealed copy for three titles years ago to Chad Casum. Who got the better deal? Hard to say. That was from the master tape that no longer can be used by the way.
They did already
I also have the commercial 7 1/2 IPS tape. It does sound great, but agreed; it’s Apples / Oranges compared to Vinyl.
I love getting opinions like this. For all the money I've spent on records, I just couldn't bring myself to spend $500 on one title. So I like to listen to Mike who definitely knows what he's taking about, give me the straight story on these type of pressings.
Well, he gives you HIS straight story, HIS opinion. There are many other opinions about this release, many of which are positive, and Mike’s dump is just one. The ERC release is simply the LEDO tape, warts & all. Mike was disappointed and can’t get past the things that bother him about the pressing, which is too bad because the vocals and drums are raw and often amazing and the unvarnished nature of the ERC allows some cool sonics.
@@timkimware3537 of course it's his opinion. Through my own testing, I tend to agree with his opinion on the sound of LPs.
@@InfectiousGroovePodcast And you know Mike buys and sells a LOT of records over $500, way over, in fact. I bought a beautiful 1st pressing on Dark Side of the Moon off him. Great deal and great record.
I believe Steve Hoffman was referring to stereo master tape, not the mono master tape which is well known to have basically disintegrated from 50 years of being used to master stereo reissues.
He has commented on the mono tapes many times the last few months.
This is pure pleasure! Your face at 8:29.. when it starts to go downwards regarding the praises 😁. Keep it up!! Love what your are doing
Good job Mike, this is what makes you, you! Cut straight through the BS and be honest. It either sounds good, or it doesn’t. And nothing you’ve said about ERC today or in the past is unreasonable when it comes to a $500 record at limited quantities. Rarity doesn’t matter if quality doesn’t back it.
Thank You Mike
Hey Mike, I've been critical of a few of your content choices but never your knowledge of record information and pressing quality. I watched this ERC title with the thought of maybe trying but put my AS 45 version on and remembered your past ERC reviews and would have been foolish to take a chance with that info. A day or so ago another TH-camr a highly followed reviewer gave this the most glowing review ever even (orgasmic) but I can almost guarantee with certain manufactures how they will always be portrayed even before listening. Thanks for your effort, honesty that has always shown through.
I Got a copy of The Doors from ERC. And it sound great! Don't trust to this ERC frustrated Mike!
Wow.
I purchase the doors albums from target. One of the first records I've purchased. Returned because I didn't like the way it sounded
I buy these for My Son and He loves them.
Hah, I did not hesitate for a second on passing on this one, the original mono is horrible and I knew this was going to be crap, thanks for putting it out there like it is
Gonna be great to see our advocate hold their feet to the multi hundred dollar coals
Maybe sharpie gate Ii?
Ouch! Thanks for the honest review
You would expect something really special for $500 like it being autographed by at least 3 of the Doors members what a shame and thank you Mike for the review cheers Carl
Well, that's certainly an impossibility.
2*
For $500 I want it autographed by Jim and Ray.
@@charlessnyder7801 Yes you are correct how about Two Doors and Bruce Botnick cheers Carl .
@@jessesmith555 I would even pay double for that cheers Carl .
Oh boy, Mike nuking the VC for another month or so. But he’s always looking out for his clientele.
Thanks for Mike. That’s why I buy from you.
I went into this video knowing you were gonna be extra critical considering the Doors are one of your all time favorite rock bands.
But I didn’t realize you was gonna roast the ever-loving shit out of them 😂
I wonder if this would’ve benefited from the Plageant Process.
Which vinyl pressings do you recommend?
I'm hoping that someday soon, we'll start seeing the software developed under Peter Jackson and recently implemented by Giles Martin being used to remix albums in a way we've only dreamed about. So many recordings were poorly done, or poorly cared for over the years. This could solve many if not most of the issues of deteriorating tapes or even hideous mastering/engineering.
Agree. Plangent is also available today, but analog fetishists would rather deteriorated tape untouched by digital.
@@brettl5604 Many of them have been listening to digital all along and didn't know it until last year!
@@brettl5604 that’s exactly my opinion. What they’ve done with the Dead and Springsteen box set is nothing short of revelation.
Technology doubles in power nearly every year. Why can’t it do the same for recorded music.? I foresee it doing the same for music.
Digital will equal analog sound, if not already.
@@gustercc We've had great sounding digital records for almost 45 years. Just listen to Donald Fagen's The Nightfly from 1980. If records are properly recorded, mixed, and mastered I see no reason why digital can't sound as good as analog. I think a lot of the issues arise when trying to take an analog recording into the digital space but as you mentioned even that seems to be improving.
Maybe we'll get a listenable mix of Raw Power at last?
The Doors is also my favorite band and this is one of my favorite record as well! Any thoughts on which are your favorite pressings of this one? Thanks!
Thank you🔥 I guess they don't have a $500 magic wand..
Thank you for your honesty Mike. Saving us $’s!
I Got a copy of The Doors from ERC. And it sound great! Don't trust to this ERC frustrated Mike!
MIKE? What in your opinion is the best sounding Doors record available? Did the original tape always have problems? Wondering if you could steer me in the right direction. Thanks again
It’s good to say it like it is!
The Doors is my favorite band as well!!! I need a good 1st pressing of there 1st!!! i've had bad luck on fleebay! OH, You have every right to be that picky for $500.00!!!! well I watched your whole review here i guess i'll stick with my 3 pressings and be happy. i'm a sucker doors fan as well brother.
Very excited for this!!
So, will this be going on your VIP used vinyl list?
Telling it how it is. No other record guy like Mike.
That real 2 real is great! Would love to hear a review of that
Which do you think is the best version?
I am leaving here this question: is the 2009-2010 Dorrs cut by BG done from the same Mono tape? The one done by Rhino? Reviews on Discord seems very close to these opinions about sound
Okay..so what source did Rhino / Analogue Products used for double album 45 RPM reissues of the Doors?
Can you do a comparison to the 50th anniversary, 24/192 Apple Digital Masters version? It has both stereo and mono versions. There is a 24/48 stereo/Atmos version as well.
Thanks for your honest and insightful review.
Can somebody explain to me what exactly is a "LEDO' tape? (I know what the acronym stands for, but can't find that very explanatory)
Hope you can compare it to the 45rpm analogue productions pressing
The original master tape was lost somehow. Analogue Productions did a nice pressing in their Doors box set from a safety tape. I’m not sure whether this is a different tape ERC used. Of course, the AP pressing is a stereo mix, so yeah. Anyway, if you don’t have good pressings of all these Doors albums, the Analogue Productions box is the one to get, IMO. They all sound stellar, even the first album.
Not that I'd spend that much on an album but thanks for the review!
Record is as shiny as yr head 😊 - love ya work 💪🏻
I'm watching this just for laughs. 😂
Mike what are your thoughts on the AP 2x45 rpm?
Hey Mike, I think this was asked already but I didn't see your reply. What do you consider to be the best vinyl versions of The Doors - Self Titled out there? I have the AP 45rpm version, which I like quite a lot, but perhaps you have others in mind?
Daymn. I need to NOT get this!! Hahhahah. My fav band as well, or, was. Hahahah Debating on selling it all off. King Gizzard is my new top slot. You collection is absolutely stunning!
wait, I have to grab the popcorn and beer
So are the 45rpm Analogue Productions records the best thus far?
@trackingangle - assuming you have a copy? What’s your take?
I love your videos and trust your option on these releases but 500 for a record , it would need to come with a pair of white gloves for your butler to put it on the turntable 🤣🤣
In it incredible what passion is able to do.
I only wish you will find what you are looking for in this record.
Justvstarter watching...this is gonna be fun
So, are you saying I should cherish the 4007 mono and 74007 stereo, tan label, extremely used releases?
$500 for a new record?!!! A record that is readily available in a variety of issues and frankly has been played to death?!!! Madness!!!!
You know this means you could get $750 for it on your next WhatNot auction! lol
Hi, love your program. It's just horrible they dare to issue such a bad sounding product, and then at that price! I do wonder about one thing though: was the original tape really thát bad? I just played 'Break on Through' from my 1967 stereo copy, GB first pressing, because I was curious after all these years, and it really sounds quite good.
Mike, maybe you should get a friend to send their copy of a great sounding record from ERC so you can hear what they are listening to since you have not come across such a record. That way, you can verify whether they have good records or not. But if a company has a history of bad records, I would not even bother with them in the first place. I am a Doors fan and have the 2 record 45 cut of the self titled, so I like quality too. After all the negative reviews on ERC, I will never even bother with them.
Yeah. And I would argue that half of those sold are primarily bought simply to be flipped or “one to play and one to save”.
So really, only half are honestly destined for people who want to honestly appreciate it and give honest reviews.
I would also argue, those that intended to flip it, would be less inclined to give it a negative review. You Can’t sell a lemon, eh?
But with ERC, it’s more about the pseudo prestige of rarity.
"It sounds like shit." 😂 The 'In' Groove review equivalent of Spinal Tap's "Shit Sandwich," I mean Shark Sandwich.
500 bucks? For that, I'd have to have Jim, Ray, Robbie & John bring it to me in person . . . oh yeah, and Pam would have to dance to "Break on through" for me!!
I have heard great things about this release from several people who own it, and not one mentioned phasing issues, drop outs, or high frequency losses. It seems to me easy to say bad things about a release that only 449 other people will hear. It seems also that most of your audience don’t want to pay so much for a record in the first place, and you’re making them feel better about it.
You havent watched him. This perspective is rare -- and his honesty is rare -- and if you know "several people who own it" and have the access to it you wouldnt be commenting on it in TH-cam
@@ericweaver9787 Mike has been on a one man mission to diss ERC ever since they refused to deal direct with him, he's so bitter. Don't own this release but own other ERCs and they're fantastic.
Mike has been on a one man mission to diss ERC ever since they refused to deal direct with him, he's so bitter. Don't own this release but own other ERCs and they are special.
@@mlmcguire74 You ignored my point on purpose. And you simply parrot Fremer. So I'll change the subject too: Which part of the White Stripes unboxing is unfair?
@@ericweaver9787 ignored your point? I'm parroting Fremer? I make up my own opinions based off my experiences, trust your own ears. I have six or seven ERCs and I rate what they're doing. Mike has had it in for ERC ever since they refused to deal direct with him. That's what all this is about.
Hey, can you do a comparison of musical film soundtracks on vinyl records so I know what is the best sounding pressing of it is,and I want to listen to the best sounding pressings of those records ever, pretty please with a cherry on top?
Does the album include "A sucker is born eveey minute"?
Did the Doors Greatest Hits in Quad released back in 1973 sound good ?
Where there's a demand, there's a buck to be made. ERC raking it in.
Something about a sucker born every minute
Thank you...
Keep them accountable Mike!!!
Their covers probably cost more than the box covers. Hand screening is not cheap. It also doesn't have normal manufacturing perfection. Hand screening is almost always imperfect.
Love the 14:53 minute build up....then BOOM "it sounds like shit" Mike drops the Microphone, exit stage left "till next time" 😛
Not that I think at the point even using a proper monophonic cartridge would help this, but, was a mono cart used when auditioning this (or any) mono release?
Also, for those of us who do not know, could you briefly describe your reference system? You know, turntable, arm, cart, phono stage, all the way down the line to the amp and speakers please. I think you are a Wilson Audio guy that much I remember. I forget what your main turntable is. Anyway, it would be great to go over the or post the link of a video covering the gear. Thanks.
Oz
LTBS
He did a video on his system last year or so. The man has dropped some serious coinage.
@@gustercc That’s good to know but wouldn’t it be nice not to have to go hunting for that information? My humble suggestion to Mike is to list his reference system in the info section of all his videos for quick reference.
Not everyone would know to look for any previous equipment video he did a year ago. Also, gear changes could have happened since last year.
But regardless of the actual system, my question was specific to whether he used a monophonic cartridge when playing this mono record. The reason this may be of importance is because I think? ERC might be using vintage cutting lathes which would have a different profile than a modern mono cutting lathe.
Mind you, I am suggesting that playing this album with a mono cart would have magically turned this turd of a production into an audiophile “tour de force”, but, it would have been the best way to asses its sound quality (or lack thereof)
All my best,
Oz
LTBS
No, a mono cartridge won’t help with this record.
@@silversurfer493 While that *may be* the case, it would *still* be good to know whether Mr. Esposito has access to one when reviewing MONO LPs
@@LetThereBeSound1 well, this would be my assumption. He obviously has thousands of records, has reviewed some mono boxes. He has 500 bucks for one of the worst mono records… I guess he has a dedicated mono cart … but I admit, it is not for granted.
Hi Mike, Could you do a pressings shoot-out of the The Doors debut?
I’ve been waiting for one but decided to do it myself, here’s my ranking:
1. DCC Compact Classic Vinyl
2. 1967 US Monarch Vinyl
3. Mobile Fidelity Vinyl
4. Analogue Productions 2 LP 45RPM
5. 70s red label US pressing
6. 70s Japanese Pressing
7. 2009 Rhino Remaster
@@thomascars1 Thank you! I'm assuming those are all Stereo (non are Mono pressings?)
@@dundee12 yes they are! If you’re looking for mono, here’s where I stand:
1. 2009 Mono Remaster
2. 1967 Monarch/Allentown Mono
3. VMP Mono Remaster
4. Probably this ERC, as I heard a copy of Break on Through from a guy on the SHF and I was absolutely shocked as to how awful the ERC was. Ray’s keyboard sounded like it was being submerged into water, and Morrison was sometimes unintelligible because of the absolute madly distorted drums cock blocking the entire mix.
Idk where the UK Mono stands in here, unfortunately. I ranked the 2009 on top because it does the best job at cleaning up the distortion found in every other pressing. Yes its digital and sounds digital, but it’s the best the mono mix will sound on vinyl largely due to the awful mixing. The original is good, but also has that distortion. The VMP preserves the distortion, has noisy vinyl, and has something nasty going on with Morrison’s vocals that isn’t sibilance. Gorgeous presentation though, dare I say better than this ERC one although i havent seen the ERC jacket in person so who am I to say haha
Edit: listened to an original mono off YT, its been years since i heard one in person. I rank the original Mono at number 1, and the ‘09 BG cut at 2.
@@thomascars1 Just purchased an original mono, I love it --has a real punch to it, a different vibe from the OG Stereo
So did he like it?