@@yessir1913 Oh no, for sure. I moved out of LA proper several years ago as well. Every time I go back, to visit family or what have you, the traffic and speed limits drive me nuts lol.
I've never thought about owning an eBike until I've started subscribing to your channel. You really make them look cool and fun to have. But... I need to get the Onyx RCR just for the speed alone.
I enjoyed watching the ONYX videos. Sweet ride for sure but I think im more of a super 73 / actual E bike kind of a guy. I like the idea of cruising and light off road while drinking a beer and shit like that. Say hi to everyone T.O. Thousand Oaks for me. Miss that place. Cheers dude. PS I hope you get the V3 hub first and abuse the shit out of it and it doesn't break.
Dude! I just got mine last week and these are the spots I’ve been riding ... so random!!! I went over to Baxter but didn’t go up it cuz it’s one way But yeah I cruise through Elysian Park too .. And Griffith Park is cool going all the way up to the observatory and looping around
Seriously, the only thing holding me back from purchasing one of these is that it weighs 145 pounds! I’m looking for a bike that’s 90 pounds or less for so many good reasons. Having a bike that weighs that much is not convenient in the long run Albeit still weighs less than a gas powered motor scooter.
How bad is the suspension on the RCR? I can definitely hear it in your videos - would you say the 73 is an overall smoother ride? I feel like I would mainly stay on the streets with the RCR..
Are you using knobbie tires or the regular standard ones the Onyx RCR comes with? See you are riding offroad a lot so just curious if its with knobbie tires or not.
These bikes are in a grey area of bike/motorcycle. I was followed by a cop riding but I was doing about 20 mph and pedaling in a bike lane. Never been pulled over or questioned but the cops are definitely watching me when I ride here in Mckinney Texas. I would definitely be pulled over here in Texas for riding like you do there in California.
whoa, you live in McKinney, TX? do you still have your RCR? have you gotten hassled by cops yet? I live in McKinney also and just ordered a CTY2. Hopefully I can ride it around without much trouble :/
Btw do you have a M1 license? I'd be curious to how these handle corner wise compared to a motorcycle, or if they feel more 'bycicles like' in terms of handeling.
I have a feeling the Regulators will come after these style of bikes- E "Motorbikes"- no longer resemble bicycles and draw attention. Onyx, Super73, Juiced, Monday, Huck, Ariel, Zugo, etc. are making killer product but could be victims of their own success. I'm gonna get some hate for this but may have to be proactive and regulate themselves to avoid European style regulations like mandatory license and insurance OR limit to lame no-throttle, 250W like the EBikes. I'm thinking driver's license required?- avoid having kids riding them. Better to impose restrictions on yourself than having John Law doing it eventually with a heavy hand.
Can't argue that. Exact reason I went super73 Hudson blue with the S2. The black looks like an old-school motor bike and the R series look like motorized dirt bikes. Only time will tell. Not many ebikes like these in my town.
@@LifeAsDane Riese & Muller, Haibike, IZip, Schwinn, Trek, even the dual motor Super-Monarch look like bicycles, nobody cares; the Folder bikes are cute commuters, old RVers ride them, nobody cares; the Rad Runners are utilitarian and are like Honda Cubs or whatever "you meet nice people on a Honda", nobody cares; but Super73 RX, S2 , the Onyx, Juiced Hyper Scorpion, Monday Gen7 looks like Serious Shit In Your Face Rides- which is fine with me but gonna get unwanted attention and inspection
Yo bro does the DRT kit does good in roads?. Because Iam looking to use it more on roads but I might go off roading sometimes. So what do you think is the best option for me?
Been watching your videos for a couple weeks now, enjoy your content, love what you do! I'm not trying to be rude or start anything up by saying this. I might be wrong and this is purely speculation, but seems like you gave your R a bit more of a beat down than the RCR? S73 definitely has some issues they need to tweak, but I feel like with any ebike, hitting down a flight of stairs, hitting some jumps or being chucked into a trash bin will mess with a thing or two on the bike? Obviously a rental is something you gotta be careful with and I get that. Hoping you can at least get the v2 motor for the meantime and keep your videos coming! Appreciate you taking the time to make these.
Parker has definitely put his bike through tough siht, I feel like his bike can't be the v1 motor because that thing is invincible. I saw that vid, RCR def didn't sound right on the landing lol Truthfully I just think these two bikes aren't at that level for off roading. Seems like everyone I see taking them off roading, happen to end up with a broken bike. Kudos to you for being brave enough to test these bikes out, I feel like I'd be so worried for anything to happen, I rather just be a pavement princess lmao
60mph...just blows me away that thing can do that. Meanwhile, I'm plotting for 40mph out of my Z as I'm an idiot. At least it'll still fly under the radar.
From all the vids ive seen about the super 73 and the rcr. It sounds like the rcr is super quiet while the super 73 motor makes a considerably louder noise. Please give me your thoughts on this matter. Thanks
A "Moped" is limited to 30mph and certain # of horse power to qualify. I think the ONYX RCR would have to registered as a motorcycle/scooter due to its speed and power.
The sound is an unsecured battery, not the shocks. There is a strap that holds the battery that needs to be tightened and cinched down more to eliminate the rattle.
Onyx RCR are a few guys building bikes in a garage. No wonder they are expensive. Some people have wrecked theirs and nobody will work on them, You have NO support. They are basically history.
Okay for you to know back when bikes were built they did not have shocks even the ones in the eighties the bikes in the eighties the BMX style frames they did not have shocks sharks did not come out until like the early 90s early 2000
4k for a bike that cost to make...1k??? Absolutely nuts how people believe this is right. Three moth waiting time because they don't have the stock...waiting on delivery on China parts you can just buy yourself. May not look identical but the main part will be.
For 4k I ordered a 12k watt motor from china, BAC 8000, a Walmart mtb, and custom built 110v 52ah battery and had a buddy do a couple welds for me. I get 90mph easy and 0-60 in 2.8 seconds leaning into the front
Just got my refund for cancelling my Super73 S2 order! If this comment gets a ton of likes, I'll pull the trigger on buying the ONYX RCR 😅 (maybe even with the drt kit) lol should I?
I have my onyx and I’m still watching these videos like when I was waiting on it to get here haha. Such an amazing bike. Literally every time I take off from a red light or a stop sign, even on normal mode, the torque and acceleration brings a smile to my face. Always. Beautiful machine. The break squeak is a little annoying and the fob is a little cheap and plastic-y (and a little weird to use at first). Biggest complaint is the break squeak. But that’s such a minor con, I don’t hold it against the bike at all. Also my front break fluid level was astonishingly low when I got it off the shipping truck. Idk if it was just an unnoticed deficiency or what. But I was shocked that it was so low (like maybe a millimeter or two of visible break fluid in the sight glass). All in all, highly highly recommend. Worth the price. Oh and blinkers! A bike this small really should come stock with blinkers. You, individually, can easily install them. But I do think it’s pretty dangerous riding it in traffic without blinkers. A mirror would be next on the recommended list, but it’s not hard to turn and look, and usually when you’re riding you have pretty good situational awareness. I think this bike embodies loophole culture, and should be ridden as such. Sidewalks, steet, alleys, etc. no one really cares (from my experience, in my small 50k population city) where you are or what you’re doing because it’s such an interesting machine. I do believe I’m the only one in my city with a high powered ebike, so people are more curious than they are salty because you exercise loophole culture. Which is nice! Oh, absolute last thing! The kickstand!!! Omg. I change my mind, this is the most frustrating thing. It stands the bike up like abnormally straight. So a slight dip in pavement or a strong gust of wind AND THE BIKE WILL TIP OVER. I hoping over time the weight of the bike will slowly start to build pressure on the kickstand resulting in a more stable prop up. BUT HOLY FUCK. I couldn’t even park it when I took it to work the first day. The pavement was too uneven. I had to go find a different spot. So please please please BE CAREFUL with that. ALWAYS keep it in mind. You have to crank the wheel and make sure is stable before letting go after you prop the kickstand. I havent dropped the bike yet, but there has been so many close calls where it’s no longer my fault. It’s definitely just a poor kickstand. But again, just make sure your bike is stable before letting go and you shouldn’t have any issues. It’s just one of those things that always needs to float in your mind or YOU WILL drop the bike.
LoL..just jumped on the freeway! Hahaha.
Crazy to see what the pandemic has caused in terms of zero traffic in LA😂😂
It's 7am he said; so before rush hour.
@@nxdboi even still to see it empty like this is weird lol. there’s a reason I moved out of La.
@@yessir1913 Oh no, for sure. I moved out of LA proper several years ago as well. Every time I go back, to visit family or what have you, the traffic and speed limits drive me nuts lol.
Damn love how you just jumped on the highway and pretty much stayed at highway speed. Lol
taking delivery of my RCR in about two weeks - living for these videos of yours. I live on mount washington, can't wait for these sunrise rides
I like how you actually stopped and made sure that no violence was taking place. Good man!
There is no way they are worth $4K! The Chinese will build one as good for $1.5K.
I agree that direct drive+manual clutch would be best. It would let you coast, brake or regenerate.
I've never thought about owning an eBike until I've started subscribing to your channel. You really make them look cool and fun to have. But... I need to get the Onyx RCR just for the speed alone.
Same
Sammeeee
Same
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Go with Huck Cycles...it puts Onyx to shame! Thank me later!
Your videos on this bike alone have sold me ♡ Thank you dawg! You put it through all of the tests that I’d want to see.
I enjoyed watching the ONYX videos. Sweet ride for sure but I think im more of a super 73 / actual E bike kind of a guy. I like the idea of cruising and light off road while drinking a beer and shit like that. Say hi to everyone T.O. Thousand Oaks for me. Miss that place. Cheers dude. PS I hope you get the V3 hub first and abuse the shit out of it and it doesn't break.
Yeah, the speed on the onyx is super dope for speed but the 73 just looks cooler. I’m sticking with my S2 🤘
My boy is back !!!! The longest 24 hours with no video .. 🤣🤣🤣
Looks amazing! I'm going to wait until they double up on the battery though on a 2nd version and lower the price on this version. I need that range!
That's happening soon
agreed, ive been driving it around and their range is reallistically 40-50 mi max on normal mode.
Wee wee …… wee. Thanks for taking us along.
Yes! Another video! And now I'm surprised that you rode the onyx on the freeway. I dont even know anymore lol
I wish people would stop comparing the super 73 and ONYX.
I wish people did more vs. on the ONYX and the Monday bikes
Monday videos coming soon
Bruh You’re becoming one of my favorite TH-camrs haha
Those guys at @17:50 were definitely GTA NPCs
Dude! I just got mine last week and these are the spots I’ve been riding ... so random!!! I went over to Baxter but didn’t go up it cuz it’s one way But yeah I cruise through Elysian Park too .. And Griffith Park is cool going all the way up to the observatory and looping around
After long hours. Good to see you
Too bad you have to give the onyx back 😢
You about to blow up my dude. Great content.
So much loophole this episode. :)
Seriously, the only thing holding me back from purchasing one of these is that it weighs 145 pounds! I’m looking for a bike that’s 90 pounds or less for so many good reasons. Having a bike that weighs that much is not convenient in the long run Albeit still weighs less than a gas powered motor scooter.
How bad is the suspension on the RCR? I can definitely hear it in your videos - would you say the 73 is an overall smoother ride? I feel like I would mainly stay on the streets with the RCR..
R73 is a smoother ride but that noise is mostly the battery not being properly secured. My fault not the bikes
What happens when you're in front of an 18-wheeler and your battery goes dead? Do you get smashed like a bug?
Congrats on 2K!!!!!!
Are you using knobbie tires or the regular standard ones the Onyx RCR comes with? See you are riding offroad a lot so just curious if its with knobbie tires or not.
A year and a half late, but I am here now.
I like how you did a comparison of both bikes on this video.
These bikes are in a grey area of bike/motorcycle. I was followed by a cop riding but I was doing about 20 mph and pedaling in a bike lane. Never been pulled over or questioned but the cops are definitely watching me when I ride here in Mckinney Texas. I would definitely be pulled over here in Texas for riding like you do there in California.
whoa, you live in McKinney, TX? do you still have your RCR? have you gotten hassled by cops yet?
I live in McKinney also and just ordered a CTY2. Hopefully I can ride it around without much trouble :/
Love your videos! Def getting myself one of these. Keep it up
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If I hadn’t wrecked my car I’d be saving up for an Onyx. Still have a crazy need for speed, comes from years of riding big motorcycles.
Btw do you have a M1 license? I'd be curious to how these handle corner wise compared to a motorcycle, or if they feel more 'bycicles like' in terms of handeling.
I have a feeling the Regulators will come after these style of bikes- E "Motorbikes"- no longer resemble bicycles and draw attention. Onyx, Super73, Juiced, Monday, Huck, Ariel, Zugo, etc. are making killer product but could be victims of their own success. I'm gonna get some hate for this but may have to be proactive and regulate themselves to avoid European style regulations like mandatory license and insurance OR limit to lame no-throttle, 250W like the EBikes. I'm thinking driver's license required?- avoid having kids riding them. Better to impose restrictions on yourself than having John Law doing it eventually with a heavy hand.
Can't argue that. Exact reason I went super73 Hudson blue with the S2. The black looks like an old-school motor bike and the R series look like motorized dirt bikes. Only time will tell. Not many ebikes like these in my town.
@@LifeAsDane Riese & Muller, Haibike, IZip, Schwinn, Trek, even the dual motor Super-Monarch look like bicycles, nobody cares; the Folder bikes are cute commuters, old RVers ride them, nobody cares; the Rad Runners are utilitarian and are like Honda Cubs or whatever "you meet nice people on a Honda", nobody cares; but Super73 RX, S2 , the Onyx, Juiced Hyper Scorpion, Monday Gen7 looks like Serious Shit In Your Face Rides- which is fine with me but gonna get unwanted attention and inspection
I think if a bike hits over 25mph then yeah they will probly regulate it
How you do not get pulled over.....AWESOME, I need some of this!!
What would the cop do it’s not a motorcycle 🤣
@@bigballs9769 They would probably be very confused....
So do u not have ur r series?!
It’s in storage waiting for a new hub
Dillon Thomson can u do a comparison video on ur honest opinion on r series vs. onyx rcr
Peter Han I did that in this video
keep up the good videos, love them!
What trail are you on around 6:30-9:00? Looks amazing
Just pullin on that hill. No problem 😎
Yo bro does the DRT kit does good
in roads?. Because Iam looking to use it more on roads but I might go off roading sometimes. So what do you think is the best option for me?
For your money, if you were going to buy the RCR or the HyperScorpion, which would you get? Is the extra > $1000 worth it for the RCR?
Been watching your videos for a couple weeks now, enjoy your content, love what you do! I'm not trying to be rude or start anything up by saying this. I might be wrong and this is purely speculation, but seems like you gave your R a bit more of a beat down than the RCR? S73 definitely has some issues they need to tweak, but I feel like with any ebike, hitting down a flight of stairs, hitting some jumps or being chucked into a trash bin will mess with a thing or two on the bike? Obviously a rental is something you gotta be careful with and I get that. Hoping you can at least get the v2 motor for the meantime and keep your videos coming! Appreciate you taking the time to make these.
I took the RCR off dirt jumps and landed on flat at the Fullerton Loop lol. Parker clears a set of stairs and lands on a set of stairs
Parker has definitely put his bike through tough siht, I feel like his bike can't be the v1 motor because that thing is invincible. I saw that vid, RCR def didn't sound right on the landing lol Truthfully I just think these two bikes aren't at that level for off roading. Seems like everyone I see taking them off roading, happen to end up with a broken bike. Kudos to you for being brave enough to test these bikes out, I feel like I'd be so worried for anything to happen, I rather just be a pavement princess lmao
60mph...just blows me away that thing can do that. Meanwhile, I'm plotting for 40mph out of my Z as I'm an idiot. At least it'll still fly under the radar.
Just bought my S2 a couple days ago. I used your friend code. Thank you.
How much milage did you get on this?
i wish i could get one in canada
Freeway cruising huh 🤣🤣
Do you use a license plate when you're on the streets or highway 🛣
Only during the pandemic can you enter a freeway going 58 mph and not get road raged lol
From all the vids ive seen about the super 73 and the rcr. It sounds like the rcr is super quiet while the super 73 motor makes a considerably louder noise. Please give me your thoughts on this matter. Thanks
I say we all go on an internet strike an see how fast they drop prices
Bro, I would so buy one of those if they were 4k canadian. if I got one it would be over 6k for me
Test the Monday motorbike next
Stick around, it’s coming
A "Moped" is limited to 30mph and certain # of horse power to qualify. I think the ONYX RCR would have to registered as a motorcycle/scooter due to its speed and power.
I thought u can keep it forever, why you have to return it the bike !.
My guy over here on the highway with a “e bike” going 60 mph haha. Won’t be long til the put the kibosh on these bikes and ban them
they won't ban them - just make them register, pay tax and get insurance
What ever happened with those open box Sur Rons? I keep seeing them pop up on Craigslist...
So what do you think about the Onyx bike all the way around?
More trails across the street from Elysian 🤘
Go through that again about registering as a moped and not register until u get caught ..? in SoCal
Wait !!!! You have return it rcr. I thought everyone keep it for forever !.
what?
I wanna see if you can do those hills on the R
What’s the next test subject? Check out Dualtron if you want an adrenaline rush!
Monday Gen7
Try to ask Ariel Rider to loan you an X-class or D-class e-bike.
do you need to get new brakes cuz it keeps squealing
Squealing doesn’t mean you need new brakes it means your brakes aren’t hot enough yet for optimal performance
@@loopholeculture oh I see thanks for the comment
45-50 mph ??? This ain’t a ebike ... this is a motorcycle 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
How long did y’alls take to get to you ? Ordered the 5th of may
How's the Onyx treating ya?
How's the onyx?
@@TheDutchMasterStacker awesome man! This is my second one and this time it didn’t come assembled. Total pain in the ass but works pretty well
Hey there my name is shaine I was wondering if I get the rcr do I need a license
Are the shocks as bad as they sound or is that just a feeling I get cause there's no engine sound.
Shocks are great, I was using their shop bike not a brand new one
The sound is an unsecured battery, not the shocks. There is a strap that holds the battery that needs to be tightened and cinched down more to eliminate the rattle.
Onyx RCR are a few guys building bikes in a garage. No wonder they are expensive. Some people have wrecked theirs and nobody will work on them, You have NO support. They are basically history.
YOU WANT HILLS TRY OUT THE HILLS IN SAN FRANCISCO THE STEEPEST HILLS AROUND!
Okay for you to know back when bikes were built they did not have shocks even the ones in the eighties the bikes in the eighties the BMX style frames they did not have shocks sharks did not come out until like the early 90s early 2000
How long does it need to charge the battery 🔋? Onyx ?
ONYX now offers a new 10A charger that does it in just a couple hours.
that thing rattles like no other..
That’s from the straps not properly securing the battery. That’s my fault not the bikes
When it looks steep on camera....
U got it registered or na? Lol
4k for a bike that cost to make...1k??? Absolutely nuts how people believe this is right.
Three moth waiting time because they don't have the stock...waiting on delivery on China parts you can just buy yourself. May not look identical but the main part will be.
Hey there do you think i sound get a super 73 rs our a r ?
What’s a RS?
Dang! You took part of the 5. LOL
$2300 is all they're worth. If i had tp pay $4000 plus im gonna go with Huck cycles
you think huck is that much better? Theyre priced similar
U need side mirrors dude
Do you need a license
😂
What gloves are those?
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Are you going to get a sur ron. The sur ron with the $999 controller will go 70mph and you can pick one up for under $3K
You’re lying
@@loopholeculture why do you say that
@@loopholeculture orangecounty.craigslist.org/spo/d/yorba-linda-electric-160-open-box/7147308484.html
Deserthi I meant like that’s too good to be true not like actually accusing you of being a liar
@@loopholeculture got it, thanks
Wait so it was a loaner ebike? I thought they hooked you up with one
For 4k I ordered a 12k watt motor from china, BAC 8000, a Walmart mtb, and custom built 110v 52ah battery and had a buddy do a couple welds for me. I get 90mph easy and 0-60 in 2.8 seconds leaning into the front
Squeaky brakes
Yeah is that normal eith this bike?
We are in a pandemic 😷 an FINANCIAL CRISIS an you guys are hiking 🥾 up prices not cool 😎
Ride to the Getty.
🤨🤔
How can these be driven without registration 😂 n without license no matter what state it went 60mph!
pedals
After taxes, delivery and drt kit, RCR is actually over $5000.
$4,500 now. 💲
Just got my refund for cancelling my Super73 S2 order! If this comment gets a ton of likes, I'll pull the trigger on buying the ONYX RCR 😅 (maybe even with the drt kit) lol should I?
Super 73 is a freaking joke horrible customer service and such an unreliable product for the price you pay
I have my onyx and I’m still watching these videos like when I was waiting on it to get here haha. Such an amazing bike. Literally every time I take off from a red light or a stop sign, even on normal mode, the torque and acceleration brings a smile to my face. Always. Beautiful machine. The break squeak is a little annoying and the fob is a little cheap and plastic-y (and a little weird to use at first). Biggest complaint is the break squeak. But that’s such a minor con, I don’t hold it against the bike at all. Also my front break fluid level was astonishingly low when I got it off the shipping truck. Idk if it was just an unnoticed deficiency or what. But I was shocked that it was so low (like maybe a millimeter or two of visible break fluid in the sight glass). All in all, highly highly recommend. Worth the price.
Oh and blinkers! A bike this small really should come stock with blinkers. You, individually, can easily install them. But I do think it’s pretty dangerous riding it in traffic without blinkers. A mirror would be next on the recommended list, but it’s not hard to turn and look, and usually when you’re riding you have pretty good situational awareness. I think this bike embodies loophole culture, and should be ridden as such. Sidewalks, steet, alleys, etc. no one really cares (from my experience, in my small 50k population city) where you are or what you’re doing because it’s such an interesting machine. I do believe I’m the only one in my city with a high powered ebike, so people are more curious than they are salty because you exercise loophole culture. Which is nice!
Oh, absolute last thing! The kickstand!!! Omg. I change my mind, this is the most frustrating thing. It stands the bike up like abnormally straight. So a slight dip in pavement or a strong gust of wind AND THE BIKE WILL TIP OVER. I hoping over time the weight of the bike will slowly start to build pressure on the kickstand resulting in a more stable prop up. BUT HOLY FUCK. I couldn’t even park it when I took it to work the first day. The pavement was too uneven. I had to go find a different spot. So please please please BE CAREFUL with that. ALWAYS keep it in mind. You have to crank the wheel and make sure is stable before letting go after you prop the kickstand. I havent dropped the bike yet, but there has been so many close calls where it’s no longer my fault. It’s definitely just a poor kickstand. But again, just make sure your bike is stable before letting go and you shouldn’t have any issues. It’s just one of those things that always needs to float in your mind or YOU WILL drop the bike.
Have you or someone you know ever tried riding one through a drive thru? Would it even trigger the sensor?
I’ve gone to many with the R73
Hey man, I don't think many people are talking about 18:00. But you get an internet fist bump from me for that. Good looking out for other people.