Looks great. Good work. One additional not about polarity is to ensure that both ends are also aligned to enable the lid to work turned 180. Otherwise it will only work one way.
I really enjoy these videos! I've got a desktop cnc and I am looking for projects. I'm going to take a crack at making some boxes this week! Great information! Thanks for the videos!
John, I like your project. I use your lamination technique for larger boxes I make for two reasons. The first reason is it is hard to get a large enough piece of wood for a lid to my greeting card keepsake boxes. The second reason is that even if I find a piece of wood big enough it tends to warp over time. By using the lamination I avoid the warped lid later on. My greeting card boxes are big enough to hold most greeting cards. I like to keep my fathers day cards, birthday cards and so on. I have made about 5 of these boxes over time and give them to friends and family to keep their cards in. The boxes have been a hit.
To save converting kits of quality wood into sawdust, have you ever tried gluing / laminating thicker sides, then CNC trimming that down to shape/contour with a suitable bit, then cutting a lid to match?
As noted these are my offcuts. They are typically things that are not enough for any use beyond small projects. Aslo, if I don't do something to trim down the offcuts every so often I have to buy a bigger house. I am a terrible pack rat.
Hey John, great work (and videos)! I’ve just ordered a Sainsmart 3018 which, as you probably know, has a very small carving footprint. Probably no more than 10.5X7.5 Any hints on cutting tops and bottoms separately (2 pieces of similar wood)?
I am not sure what software the Sainsmart uses, but in my guess is that the basic theory is the same, except in this case you want to have two files that mirror each other. So if we assume a simple rectangular box, you might start with the bottom of the box and create your inner pocket, box lip and outer cut. Then you would duplicate the file, group the three shapes and flip them. Then you would switch the cuts around for the lip from an outer cut to an inner cut. Does that make sense?
Sorry. I am confused. I don't use a ball mill for any of this. One thing to note is that carbide Create comes with a few default bits and all the other ones are custom bits that I have added. My #203 and your #203 will likely be different. I am using a 5/8 two flute endmill (router bit) for flattening the stock, then 1/8 and 1/4 three flute endmills for the actual carve. Does that make sense?
Hello John. I am John. Now you and I, both being John E Clark, but on your opening credits there is a album cover of Kate Bush, The Dreaming. One of my most favorite.
Good job! The only thing I will do different is I don't like bottom it's thinner than the top because the lid. But I liked very much! Thanks for your videos!
Excellent, clear video as usual John. When you sand the lip, what are you using? I find that I often have to sand the lips and it seems to take forever. It is especially a pain when I make round boxes. Btw, you should also say that no ties were hurt in the production of this video after looking at the glueing sequence.
I don't wear ties... ever. :) I have a small set of sanding blocks which go from 120-440 sand paper (video on those is upcoming). However, if it's a rectangular box, then a good shoulder plane is the best friend you will ever have. As much as I adore technology, hand planes are a life saver.
PLEASE do a video on how you did the album covers in the intro, or at least tell us what software you used to generate the g-code. I tried a plugin for Inkscape, but the g-code was sub-optimal and VERY slow...
John That,s a great looking box nice use of scrap wood. When you used that pattern bit to flatten your board. Did it start cutting on the board or did it start outside of the board and come into the board. Did you do a ramp in to the wood. JeffPeters
Thanks Jeff! Pocket operations in Carbide Create always start in the center and work their way to the outside. We don't have a ramp in option, but with a 1mm depth of cut, it's not that critical.
@@resorter66 Yes, the latest version does. Are you looking for an SVG version of the box design? www.dropbox.com/s/pos20o87z9xg20n/3%20by%205%20box.svg?dl=0
@@johnearlclark SVG yes - another question . The dust shoe I see is clear with a pretty good size port for the hose. Also I saw you move something in the front of it before you started the machine what was that . Is that a suckit system thanks for the SVG file Jeff
Good info here I'm going to give this one a shot
Thanks John! I appreciate the technical detail you provide and I enjoy your sense of humor! You make this fun!
Looks great. Good work. One additional not about polarity is to ensure that both ends are also aligned to enable the lid to work turned 180. Otherwise it will only work one way.
Great job and video production John. Thank you.
The paper 📄 "This space for rent" made me LoL 😂 !! 👍
Yet another brilliant, educational video. I wish you would produce more !!
John thank you for making these awsome videos. I can't wait untill I can get my own cnc router. I'm about half way there.
I really enjoy these videos! I've got a desktop cnc and I am looking for projects. I'm going to take a crack at making some boxes this week! Great information! Thanks for the videos!
i always enjoy your videos, good work john.
Awesome project! And the pot box comment made me laugh...
Nice Job!! Congrat!! Easy to do and beautiful finished. Like your comments too.
Why do your boxes don't have any offset? Or I'm not just seeing it?
I typically sneak up on the fit with a hand plane
John, I like your project. I use your lamination technique for larger boxes I make for two reasons. The first reason is it is hard to get a large enough piece of wood for a lid to my greeting card keepsake boxes. The second reason is that even if I find a piece of wood big enough it tends to warp over time. By using the lamination I avoid the warped lid later on. My greeting card boxes are big enough to hold most greeting cards. I like to keep my fathers day cards, birthday cards and so on. I have made about 5 of these boxes over time and give them to friends and family to keep their cards in. The boxes have been a hit.
love it, thanks for the inspiration
To save converting kits of quality wood into sawdust, have you ever tried gluing / laminating thicker sides, then CNC trimming that down to shape/contour with a suitable bit, then cutting a lid to match?
As noted these are my offcuts. They are typically things that are not enough for any use beyond small projects. Aslo, if I don't do something to trim down the offcuts every so often I have to buy a bigger house. I am a terrible pack rat.
Any idea how I get carbide create to show the times of each cut?
Mazeppa Made the latest version shows those times automatically. Carbide Create 4.x
Hey John, great work (and videos)! I’ve just ordered a Sainsmart 3018 which, as you probably know, has a very small carving footprint. Probably no more than 10.5X7.5
Any hints on cutting tops and bottoms separately (2 pieces of similar wood)?
I am not sure what software the Sainsmart uses, but in my guess is that the basic theory is the same, except in this case you want to have two files that mirror each other. So if we assume a simple rectangular box, you might start with the bottom of the box and create your inner pocket, box lip and outer cut. Then you would duplicate the file, group the three shapes and flip them. Then you would switch the cuts around for the lip from an outer cut to an inner cut. Does that make sense?
Thnx, John. Makes perfect sense.
PS. I would not keep pot in a 3x5 box. The box would be too small. I would need a larger box.
Looks like Carbide doesn't have the 203 ball mill at the moment. Would the #203 or the Amana 46376 work instead?
Sorry. I am confused. I don't use a ball mill for any of this. One thing to note is that carbide Create comes with a few default bits and all the other ones are custom bits that I have added. My #203 and your #203 will likely be different. I am using a 5/8 two flute endmill (router bit) for flattening the stock, then 1/8 and 1/4 three flute endmills for the actual carve. Does that make sense?
Yes it does. I was looking at the file you shared in Carbide and it was showing a 203 bit. Thank you for clarifying.
Hello John. I am John. Now you and I, both being John E Clark, but on your opening credits there is a album cover of Kate Bush, The Dreaming. One of my most favorite.
Earl by any chance? That record cover was from my coffee table project:th-cam.com/video/AqHPZVOADaI/w-d-xo.html
Good job! The only thing I will do different is I don't like bottom it's thinner than the top because the lid. But I liked very much! Thanks for your videos!
What went wrong that stripes didn’t align on the other side?
It is possible it was not tight against the fence on one end. If it's off even a little it will not align.
Excellent, clear video as usual John. When you sand the lip, what are you using? I find that I often have to sand the lips and it seems to take forever. It is especially a pain when I make round boxes. Btw, you should also say that no ties were hurt in the production of this video after looking at the glueing sequence.
I don't wear ties... ever. :) I have a small set of sanding blocks which go from 120-440 sand paper (video on those is upcoming). However, if it's a rectangular box, then a good shoulder plane is the best friend you will ever have. As much as I adore technology, hand planes are a life saver.
Which software you used in this project? Thanks Jack
I use Carbide Create. It comes with the Shapeoko.
@@johnearlclark Thanks John
PLEASE do a video on how you did the album covers in the intro, or at least tell us what software you used to generate the g-code. I tried a plugin for Inkscape, but the g-code was sub-optimal and VERY slow...
John That,s a great looking box nice use of scrap wood. When you used that pattern bit to flatten your board. Did it start cutting on the board or did it start outside of the board and come into the board. Did you do a ramp in to the wood.
JeffPeters
Thanks Jeff! Pocket operations in Carbide Create always start in the center and work their way to the outside. We don't have a ramp in option, but with a 1mm depth of cut, it's not that critical.
@@johnearlclark Thanks for the reply.
@@johnearlclark John Does CC now have the option of saving the file to an SVG file by any chance Jeff
@@resorter66 Yes, the latest version does. Are you looking for an SVG version of the box design? www.dropbox.com/s/pos20o87z9xg20n/3%20by%205%20box.svg?dl=0
@@johnearlclark
SVG yes - another question . The dust shoe I see is clear with a pretty good size port for the hose. Also I saw you move something in the front of it before you started the machine what was that . Is that a suckit system thanks for the SVG file
Jeff
Awesome video but be careful not to damage your feet.... where are your shoes anyway lol
During the Georgia summers, be glad I am wearing pants. :)
@@johnearlclark hahaha
Bare feet in the shop. I guess tools or material haven't ever fallen from the bench?
Michael Robertson be glad I am wearing pants 😛
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