1990 Tour de France

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  • @cecilhenry9908
    @cecilhenry9908 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Hard to imagine when watching this on TH-cam that the internet and YT was simply unimaginable in 1990
    Amazing to be able to see it all so easily now.

    • @BuffaloBuffalo-uc6zp
      @BuffaloBuffalo-uc6zp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      At a very destructive price considering 5G technology is going to be hazardous to human and animal health and the ecosystem which can not coexist with radiation of this magnitude!!

    • @drunkensailor112
      @drunkensailor112 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@BuffaloBuffalo-uc6zp idiot alert Here!

  • @JohnMFlores
    @JohnMFlores 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I followed this Tour via backpack, from the rainy TT in Epinal (where Alcala won) to Paris. I bought a can of spray paint in Grenoble and used to paint the Z logo at Lac de Vassivierre and snuck up into the stands to watch Lemond don the yellow jersey. I met a handful of Americans along the way and have many fond memories. Good times.

    • @drunkensailor112
      @drunkensailor112 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great story and memories!

    • @brianboyle2681
      @brianboyle2681 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fantastic. Nothing like following the Tour. It’s the last great people’s sports event, with spectators cheering from the grass verges like they were 100 years ago.

  • @yyzsupra8338
    @yyzsupra8338 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I just want to say, this proves how clueless CBS and John Tesh were in their production and music. This is Euro, this is class, this is the TdF. so legit....

  • @JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe
    @JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Beautiful era for the Jersey.

  • @lustontranslation
    @lustontranslation ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember watching stage 13 on the lobby of the hotel I was working at the time, I was 18 years old, I must have polished the crap out of the hand rail of the stairway close to the tv, 😂

    • @belizon
      @belizon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol 😂 😂 😂 😂

  • @simoneortolani3604
    @simoneortolani3604 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1989: it never rains
    1990: it always rains

  • @shane-irish
    @shane-irish 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love the music

  • @jamesbriansson
    @jamesbriansson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I used to watch this video almost daily when I was 15 years old back in the very early 90s.
    Indurain was dominating and I always hated that. I wanted LeMond to win again. He never did, Indurain won year after year in his boring "super human" style by winning time trials by several minutes.
    I really think Indurain was on EPO. His dominance didn't make sense, nobody could touch him.
    LeMond was from a true golden age of cycling that died with Indurain.

    • @brianmcg321
      @brianmcg321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Indurain was on EPO. About half the peloton was juiced by 1991. Lemond and his team in the 1991 tour were getting dropped on flat stages. Lemond has given interviews about this and he and his team mates couldn't figure out what was going on. It wasn't until a few years later that they learned what was happening in the peloton.

    • @kidpagronprimsank05
      @kidpagronprimsank05 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@brianmcg321 by 1991, even though EPO already there, it not that widespread as it was later on. Leblanc got his position fair and square. Mottet, who had as good rep as LeMond, finished ahead of him. On Joux Plan stage, when LeMond dropped, he was with Riis, which we knew was on hot stuff later on

    • @drunkensailor112
      @drunkensailor112 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@brianmcg321 1991 was beginning of epo. Countless of clean riders still got results until 1993 like Andrew hampsten, Alvaro mejia and Charly mottet. Even Leblanc was still clean in 92 and finished 5th
      Like it or not. Indurain was a natural. He was already one of the best riders in 89 and 90 tours when epo was virtually non existent and indurain was still supposedly 85 kg

    • @peter101cycle1
      @peter101cycle1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drunkensailor112he was a natural, he had a large heart or was it lung capacity. He was probably still on something as they all were

    • @drunkensailor112
      @drunkensailor112 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peter101cycle1 yes, but I doubt he was on epo in 89 or 90. Even doubt 91

  • @80reve
    @80reve 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you very much for uploading this. This is the tour that I saw at my grandparents as a kid, but didn't pay a lot of attention to (I only started really watching three years later) ... so finally I can see it again. A bit more informed and older :) Also very surprised to see "directed by Jurgen Leth" :)

    • @classiccycling48592
      @classiccycling48592  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad you enjoyed it

    • @Memovox
      @Memovox 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jørgen Leth was also a legendary bicycle commentator on Danish television for many years.

  • @GregNelson-m3s
    @GregNelson-m3s 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I can't believe Lemond still ended up winning the 90 tour. He looked so thick and out of shape compared to 89.

    • @GregNelson-m3s
      @GregNelson-m3s 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I thought I was the only one to think he looked a lot heavier than he did in 89. He had his January body in July.

  • @gregcueva8631
    @gregcueva8631 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Claudio Chiappuci, a real gentleman and was I fighter the whole way. He even looked sincerely happy for Greg who is till this day my cycling hero.

  • @morganr2658
    @morganr2658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I'm always a little sad to see this in retrospect. One of the last clean tours. Lemonde was shunned by the public, the cycling world and abandoned by his sponsors for saying that people were using PEDs later in the 90s. All too true in retrospect.

    • @dr.terencemccormick2336
      @dr.terencemccormick2336 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zen of wheels. Healing and .
      Mending riders b by Dr. Mccormick

    • @Usersixeightfourninefive
      @Usersixeightfourninefive ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dansprague2 to think Chiapucci was clean just like Indurain..... What's alarming about Jonas Vingegaard was his best places in 2018-2020 was like 9th in the Tour de Pologne and a stage in some minor level race like Tour de Ain.... And then he's dominating the best riders in the world in the Tour de France in 2021-2023 and it's like ok he never even won the Young riders jersey cuz he was garbage and couldn't even be a Domestique in the Tour..... Is it possible to grow and mature mentally and become that strong between 21-25 years old..... Maybe.... Yeah maybe Pogacar slaughters everyone included WVA in the ITT and Vingegaard absolutely smokes him 🚬🚬🚬🚬🚬 ok sure, we'll see, I guess

    • @user-qr8ki8ue4i
      @user-qr8ki8ue4i ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dansprague2 Truth! I quit racing back in 1989 because I couldn't keep up with the top Cat 1/2's on anabolics and testosterone injections. They tried to get me to take the stuff. As a not-too-shabby clean rider, it was soul-crushing and insulting that the only way I would be highly competitive at the bigger races was to get on board the Dope Train. It was all so very sad. I loved my beautiful, beautiful sport so much.

    • @BryonCarter-we5eb
      @BryonCarter-we5eb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry to pop your bubble friend.
      As Jacques Anquetil said the tour is not won on vitamins and water.

    • @TellusJD
      @TellusJD ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dansprague2 Then you realize you have your data quite wrong.
      Jonas has monster TT records, beating pogacar in all late tdf TTs since his first tdf 2021. 2022 Even slowing down letting team mate win and still beating pogi in the TT. If anything he has shown he is top top elite in the TT and climbing as soon as he popped his head into cycling.

  • @michaelvitiello9960
    @michaelvitiello9960 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks to Phil for these T.D.F videos. Every year during the tour, i am watching the old tours thanks to Paul and Phil. I just wish this technology was available during the 70's, 60's and earlier. And to all you Armstrong haters for doping, just know this, every year lance won, i would say the top 7-8 in the overall were doping. Every winner in the 90's was doping. Dont take it personal, its just facts. It wasn't just Lance!

  • @kidpagronprimsank05
    @kidpagronprimsank05 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    LeMond rode very strategic race, and with luck (Breukink bad day with bike in stage 16), and killer instinct in stage 13, he was the deserve winner

  • @sbsb4995
    @sbsb4995 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic video, fantastic race.

  • @tuomasholo
    @tuomasholo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sadly Laurent Fignon passed away a short 20 years later from cancer that had spread from his digestive tract to his lungs. Don’t take life for granted. Get out there and ride but don’t ignore your health.

  • @mercenariesneverdie56
    @mercenariesneverdie56 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Greg lemond a legendary tour de france

    • @shane-irish
      @shane-irish 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was in 1986

    • @villy27
      @villy27 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shane-irish And 1989... Even 1990 was very unusual.

    • @shane-irish
      @shane-irish 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@villy27 86 was the best do

  • @marty197666
    @marty197666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The first tour I watched all the way through. I was transfixed and LeMond became my hero as a young lad. Cycling just doesn’t seem to have this magic nowadays. Also Thierry Mariés position seems to be as good as any modern rider and ahead of the others.

    • @drunkensailor112
      @drunkensailor112 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think in recent few years cycling has gotten incredible again with new generation of riders being so aggressive

  • @johnpearceboyer
    @johnpearceboyer ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the no helmets when they climb you can actually see who they are

    • @franz009franz
      @franz009franz ปีที่แล้ว

      i can tell apart basically the whole modern climbers just from team/stature and how they sit on the bike

  • @duncanh3466
    @duncanh3466 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Funny how Claudio Chiappucci threw the tour away in the same manner as Bernard Hinault (to Superbangneres) did for Lemond's first tour win.

  • @fergalcummins3775
    @fergalcummins3775 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the name of the song 🎵 that is played in the introductory 90 seconds please? Thank you.

  • @Baltimoreborn
    @Baltimoreborn ปีที่แล้ว

    Steve Bauer is so awesome. He’s so Canadian as the reporter hits him with the microphone in his head and face area. Lol.

    • @jimbanner-lo6fg
      @jimbanner-lo6fg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he was a dirty sprinter and hooked more than once to win sprints he was losing

  • @GoofballVidProductions
    @GoofballVidProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always wondered what the race organisers were thinking, putting the photographers in that wedge-like setup, directly after the finish line? A miracle no one got seriously hurt.

  • @shane-irish
    @shane-irish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cycling so much better back then

  • @nihilistmarmot
    @nihilistmarmot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A decisive win against "Capoochee."

    • @LukezyM
      @LukezyM 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Capoochee?

    • @nihilistmarmot
      @nihilistmarmot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LukezyM Lemond's pronunciation. Reminds me of the way Mick Doohan would pronounce his teammate's name: "krivil."

    • @scuffediceposeidon9178
      @scuffediceposeidon9178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's like Trump when he says muchas gracias it's moooochas

  • @fergalcummins3775
    @fergalcummins3775 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can anyone name the opening song here at 1 minute in please? Thank you

  • @sparx550
    @sparx550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The last great TDF winner before the cheats showed up.

    • @timify7934
      @timify7934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Is froome, thomas and bernal also cheating

    • @arthurburrola9412
      @arthurburrola9412 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Greg would have won in 91' too if nobody would have used PED's to prevent Greg from 3 peating.

    • @arthurburrola9412
      @arthurburrola9412 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Richard Dixon haha. Dixon, just out of curiosity why did you say that? That's got nothing to do with the TDF. I'm just curious where you're coming from.

    • @arthurburrola9412
      @arthurburrola9412 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Richard Dixon no doubt. I , personally know nothing about thee gay cycling club. I do however know that doping always has been in cycling. I'm familiar with the the tour culture also and that's the reason why Greg all of a sudden became a recreational rider as soon as 1991 came along. Miguel won 5 in a row . he was riding at what? 170lbs 175lbs..? Furthermore Lemond never was even accused of doping. No whispers not even jealous whispers. Bonds can't claim the same . that's the difference between your elusion between Barry Bonds and Greg Lemond. With all due respect.

    • @arthurburrola9412
      @arthurburrola9412 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Richard Dixon I can appreciate your opinion. Are you referring to when he got shot hunting? Greg was always a loner an outlier. Even on his teams. When he was with Renault he won the Worlds. La Vie was doping probably. He went from Bottechhia to Tomasso because he was not happy for obvious reasons. I'm just informing you. No need to prove anything. I'm educated to inform. I remember Kathy complaining...
      It was hard for her. The WHOLE team was cheating. ( not hole btw ). I'm sure you believe what you think but I'm telling you sir it isn't accurate..

  • @JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe
    @JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's up with John and Tim?

  • @deathkampdrone
    @deathkampdrone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:33 was hilarious :D

  • @belizon
    @belizon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Open music, name, composer anyone please

    • @TalesfromtheGreenway
      @TalesfromtheGreenway 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pretty sure it was john tesh , but I as well have been unable to find the audio tracks. Please let me know if you have any luck.

    • @malibustacy3606
      @malibustacy3606 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're kidding right....in the opening credits it clearly states the music is done by Absolute Music, that would be these people, www.absolutemusiclibrary.com/#!home, now you're going to have to dig for it.

    • @shane-irish
      @shane-irish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      John tesh the open house

  • @PInk77W1
    @PInk77W1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lady reporter to Lemond after 13th stage
    “How important was it for you to win the stage today?”
    Lemond “LoL”

  • @Esperluet
    @Esperluet ปีที่แล้ว

    Wouldn't say there were still 2 stages by day at this time.

  • @nunorb83
    @nunorb83 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Delgado was an EPO pioneer. So was Indurain.

  • @kidpagronprimsank05
    @kidpagronprimsank05 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Plus glimpses of Indurain's TdF reign a year later

  • @luiwammes4193
    @luiwammes4193 ปีที่แล้ว

    really liked the video,
    but can't really get my head wrapped around the really poor pronounciation of the names.

  • @mikemooney4228
    @mikemooney4228 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lemond is the GOAT. He could and should have won 7 plus TDF if he had not been shot, his own team had not screwed him in 1985, and all a la natural and clean unlike the fraud Armstrong and the rest. Truly an incredible athlete Lemond was with a VO2 Max of 92 to Armstrong’s 78.

  • @lleweybyrne
    @lleweybyrne 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Greg LeMond. The great follower.

  • @pauldarling330
    @pauldarling330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That Indurain kid is a pretty good. He might have a future if he can do more than time trial.

  • @brettalcock3240
    @brettalcock3240 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The media, greg's greatest competition

  • @MegaJackpot180
    @MegaJackpot180 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    johan bruyneel whatever happened to him after this ?..............

    • @PInk77W1
      @PInk77W1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was 3rd place in 1990 Worlds road race
      He was 1st in 1991 Worlds road race
      He was 1st 1992 Worlds road race

    • @desertrainfrog1691
      @desertrainfrog1691 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And then of course he directed Team USPS

  • @jameslopez958
    @jameslopez958 ปีที่แล้ว

    LeMond! 👍💪✌️

  • @jefferyobryan6351
    @jefferyobryan6351 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The golden age of cycling, such beautiful equipment, now they petal plastic, I'll stick with vintage thank you very much...😏😏😏

  • @gargantuk
    @gargantuk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Regarding that first long time trial, one has to think 'poor Greg' - you can bet Alcala, Bugno and Indurain were all 'sur la jus'

    • @simonthomsen8578
      @simonthomsen8578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How can you be so fucking sure that lemond wasnt doped?

    • @gargantuk
      @gargantuk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@simonthomsen8578 I just think it's well documented and his performances started to wane when the EPO era was ushered in. He's one of the few I genuinely believe

    • @simonthomsen8578
      @simonthomsen8578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gargantuk I'm not saying he was taking EPO, though that's certainly a possibility, since it had been around since 1987 - up until that point, the riders were using blood doping, which helped a lot but wasn't quite as effective. Could be that he was still caught up in the old ways?? Or maybe his body just didn't respond very well to EPO at all. Plus it's common for cyclists to go down on level in their start 30's (31 for Lemond). Look at Delgado, a well known doper. Flops completely in 1990 tour at 29 years of age, having just won the tour and made the podium a year before. Or Schleck. Or Bardet. Lemond also had an illness concerning weakened muscles causing him to stop - maybe that was the cause of his lower level instead? Soooo many questions, sooo many possibilities. So I ask again: how can you be so fucking certain!?

    • @simonthomsen8578
      @simonthomsen8578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gargantuk And how is it well documented?? There are no test results from back then that are still valid

    • @gargantuk
      @gargantuk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@simonthomsen8578 Well Simon, you're obviously quite angry and your use of aggressive blue language underlines that. The truth is I can't be totally sure, like anything in life. I just happen to personally believe Lemond was clean, quite rare in the sport at that time. Whilst I like to think the sport is a lot cleaner these days, am sure there are still some riders trying to gain an unfair advantage by doping somehow.

  • @EMC2Scotia
    @EMC2Scotia 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I imagine Jeff Bernard would agree with Lemond (@1:27:45) as to the correctness of attacking a race leader/favourite when they puncture.

    • @EMC2Scotia
      @EMC2Scotia 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dansprague2 On the day they attacked him en masse, he would've been up with them without the puncture. La Plagne was his bad day (2 mins to Roche and Delgado), you take the 4 mins. he lost and the 1;44 and 2;36 he took out of Roche and Delgado respectively in the final TT and you have a TDF winner.

    • @kidpagronprimsank05
      @kidpagronprimsank05 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually it was Mottet who was the mastermind. He planed to attack at specific spot. Roche known it, and joined him.

    • @EMC2Scotia
      @EMC2Scotia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kidpagronprimsank05 So he knew it and actively contributed to it? Sounds quite similar to being the one who threw the unwritten rules out the window ('these unwritten rules are not worth the paper they're written on!'). Attacking at a feed zone is generally considered as low as attacking a race leader who has punctured.

  • @alexfernandohuenten1374
    @alexfernandohuenten1374 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Moser genial

  • @latoucheF7
    @latoucheF7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A year without EPO?

    • @shane-irish
      @shane-irish 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No

    • @drunkensailor112
      @drunkensailor112 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only bugno and chiapucci were on epo

    • @Jlb1859
      @Jlb1859 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hardly a year without EPO and other drugs!! EPO became prevalent in the early 80s in the professional peleton!

  • @imacomputer1234
    @imacomputer1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ah yes, the over 50% hematocrit era. could've been indurain's first of six.

    • @drunkensailor112
      @drunkensailor112 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1990 was still very clean except for chiapucci and bugno. The first epo riders.

    • @DanieleVetrucci
      @DanieleVetrucci 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@drunkensailor112 Come fai a dire questo? Perché sono italiani? Gli altri e il vostro Lemond erano più puliti? Dicevano lo stesso di Armostrong poi si è scoperta la verità.

  • @drunkensailor112
    @drunkensailor112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was actually the first tour indurain should've won. He was a beast here

    • @richbarrows3922
      @richbarrows3922 ปีที่แล้ว

      His first couple tours he finished way back. Unlike all of the other multi tour winners whe started in top 3 first time.

    • @drunkensailor112
      @drunkensailor112 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richbarrows3922 his first couple of tours he was very young. He was still only 25 in this one

  • @1987phillybilly
    @1987phillybilly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Europeans always hated anything American in that race

    • @methe2960
      @methe2960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What a nonsense. The French did.

    • @BuffaloBuffalo-uc6zp
      @BuffaloBuffalo-uc6zp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The french were always worried about the american globalist agenda ripping the heart and soul out of cycling which is so self evident from the geometry of the raceing bike today to the utter decline and decadence of the sport which solely rest at the hands and feet of the american globalist.. Bill Gates and Co