@@Silchii did you fail at maths ?... if the Uk had this sort of population increase, then there would be 350 million in the UK and people would be desperate to get out to escape starvation and crime.... are you capable of joining two dots ???? give it a try... and the clue is, the problems in the UK would not have been climate change...
"selling sex for fish"... that happens in many lakeside communities across Africa, even in Western Kenya, beside Lake Victoria. That made HIV/AIDs prevalent in that region
@Lomesh Bhoire Man, in the context, this bot/spam posting comes off as especially insensitive. I wonder if obvious spam posts like this even work on people? They must though, otherwise no one would even bother with it.
@@KuklusKlanas Sex work is very lucrative...that isn't my point. My point is all the people in the world that feel they HAVE to sell themselves because there is nothing left to sell and no work. Let's hope it never happens to you TROLL
@@maxsjoberg788 Tell me how to give up my life for them? I own nothing tangible, I work what people would consider slave labour by most standards and I have been alone and have had times that almost led me to suicide. Should I off myself to prove a point TROLL?
It’s just a total lack of control of any type , they are fishing the fish to extinction. Netting up all the small fish and wiping out the species. Lack of education at all on how to manage .
First minute of the video, the guy was like "Yeah we are running out of fish because of over-fishing due to an increase of population", and the reporter is like "Thats why climate change affects these people." Climate change is a way people sum up problems and blame it on other people instead of doing the things that actually solve or manage a problem. Here are some potential problems that probably are the real f'n reasons. Overfishing=Not enough management of resources Not enough management of resources=Corrupt government pilfering away taxes meant to be used for things like resource management Corrupt government officials Yeah that sums it up.
Well no there's already underlying issues in many of these poor nations from the good ol time of exploration where the West fucked over most em. Now there's climate change - something also driven by the richest countries, which exacerbates all of the issues which no one solved. The point here being yeah overfishing is a problem, its also a problem when the lake you fish in doesnt exist anymore. So now the dream of escaping poverty doesnt even exist for some of these places. Since they cant even produce the economic surplus to invest in the infrastructure required to reduce poverty.
@@SarcasticDespot “from the good ol time”. Too many people on here have no idea of the longer term social and economic history and the movement of humans. They all assume that their history began a few hundred years ago at best. There have been more than 200 empires and most of those were before European countries had their own empires, and yes, some of those empires were in Africa. Do you even know that there were camel train of more than 10,000 crossing the Sahara with slaves to sell in North Africa when Britain's were running around in animal skins. Have you ever considered the spread of Islam across Africa ? Or even a place like India - how do you think it was formed ? Peacefully ? Did you know that the first slaves were White, so does this mean I can demand a home in Africa and be looked after for the rest of my life ? Did you know that there are Russian actively on the ground in African counties right now ? I think one is the Central African Republic ? So why no screams about this ? Because it does not fit the propaganda line which you have swallowed completely. There is half I book I could write - but those putting out the cheap propaganda can only manage a few lines, any more then it descends into obvious nonsense. The biggest problem in Africa right now is RELIGION, and that was imported so if African’s want to blame something, then they should blame this. “Allah will decide how many children you will have” and the Catholics are not any better.
it's sad that people have to live this way, but more sad that the fishing industry over-fishes and steals from other areas, forcing locals to go broke, and hungry. People never talk about WHY there are no fish, because the industry is too powerful.
I have a slightly different take - this is a classic example of "tragedy of the commons", and this type of phenomena is rampant everywhere that certain costs can be externalized and borne by someone else (climate change is another example). It's in every fishers best interest to get as many fish as possible, and hence there is no economic incentive to fish sustainably. I'm not so certain we don't end up the same place without a powerful fishing industry, seems like even at the small scale we could end up in the same place.
@@Jason-sp5yc I like your nuance, but the concept they titled "tragedy of the commons" is really just double speak for the inherent flaw of current economics. A sound economic policy shouldn't rely on people acting a certain way no matter if it's greed or altruism. The only tragedy for these people is the failure of their government to support them. Nobody should have to sell their body, possibly getting pregnant in the process no less, for $8 per week. It's maddening.
population 1960 = 3.6 million, now 18.6 million.. and what has this to do with industry ???.. the video is just cheap propaganda as it ignores the real issue..
I swear down. In third world countries population is exploding. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not bad for poor people to have kids but when they decide to have 7 or 8 like they do in Nigeria it’s an issue.
@@omomeidontaya3143 Do you know how big Africa is???? You can fit America and China in Africa and there’ll still be enough space. You people blaming population are just racist. So we shouldn’t have kids cause your country won’t stop exploiting us LMAOOO ok 👍
People used to catch large fish in this lake. In the recent past, this lake had some of the most diverse fish species in the world but many species are now extinct. The fish in this lake have been chronically over harvested leaving smaller and smaller breeding groups to repopulate. Like the fishermen said 30 seconds into the video, the ever growing population is why there are hardly any fish left. This has been an issue since before the recent effects of climate change exacerbated the problem. The title should say- humans are making it harder to escape poverty. I hope the abundance of fishermen at lake malawi seek a new source of income, you cant pump water out of a dry well.
@vicenews Thank you for making an informative video but how did these women benefit? Were they paid for these interviews a fair share of the profit that Vice makes on it? I got 5 ads while watching, are you in any way contributing to the improvement of their lives besides exposure? I look forward to your reply
@@shahee6579 5.25 the guy says he has been beaten by Maluzi" -(Maluzi andimenya) "Maluzi" is a term we use to define brokenness or Poverty, "Andimenya" means beaten. So a better translation would be I've been beaten down by poverty or I'm really struggling financially. Hope that helps
It’s heartbreaking to see what these people are going through to survive. I hope the video increases support for these people and they have other alternative help regarding the fishing issue. I hope that videos like this help us realize what he take for granted and always be thankful.
What makes escaping poverty the hardest...is having children when you have nothing and can barely support yourself. Populations start getting wealthier once they hit 1.5-2 children per family and...start having children later in life...e.g 25+
Exactly Human won't stop breeding like cats and dogs n then they will talk about hunger.. I mean if I can't take care of myself I've got no fuckin right of giving birth to kids If I want to have it so badly go n adopt as many as you want
People started having an average of 1.5 children per family after they got educated and wealthy. It's an effect not a cause. Experts have found that the single best predictor of family size is woman's education. Many poor families have lots of children because children can help with household and farm tasks. Many children often die in infancy so having many is somewhat of an insurance policy. Lastly, access to contraceptive and reproductive health options is often fairly limited in poorer nations.
@@kellylinstra1135 It goes hand in hand. Fewer children is both the cause and effect. Having fewer children means/no children when you are a teen means that you can get an education yourself. Once you are stuck with 3 children at the age of 16....your education is done. Especially if you are alone with the children. This is true even in developed countries. Once you are a single mom with 3 kids...you are almost always set for a life close to the poverty line. Its basic logic really. If you can produce resources for 1 person and then add 3 extra people, then...you will have to divide that 1 resource between more people, meaning that everybody will get less than what you started with. Take the children of the women in this video. Are they gonna have an easier life and more opportunities compared to their mother( before she had children? ). Having children also means that it becomes much more difficult to move and find a new place to live.
Seriously all these people have a bunch of kids and no way to support them other than sex trade so they claim. Don't have kids if you know you have no way to support them and bring them out of property unless of course you're having kids so they will bring you out of poverty.... 😶
They are fishing for specific type of fish like a sardine called Usipa or Kapenta that only grows to that size, it is the only species not under immediate threat, lights and nets are used to catch them on moonless nights.
Yeah, I was thinking the same... is it really climate change or just them overfishing... Im betting the latter, even though I think climate change is a problem.
What a desperately sad situation for all involved. And we in the west sit on our smartphones watching that suffering for “entertainment”.... the world is so unjust and I am so sorry that people suffer like this at the hands of others.
It was a renewable resource for probably thousands of years, the problem is the population increased drastically and the lake can't support them all. When fish are your only option to feed yourself and your family, you're gonna keep fishing. What these people really need are more job opportunities, relying on a single lake is their downfall. If they had other options then the lake wouldn't be so depleted. And sex education would help to prevent families in poverty from having way too many children which is what causes the overpopulation in the first place. More people = more poverty and environmental catastrophe
@@Ainttrippin population 1960 = 3.6 million, now 18.6 million.. ah.. do you really know what you are talking about.. seems you like to push the propaganda just like the cheap frauds who made the video... are you blind ? what has this to do with climate change other than to hasten it ????
They aren’t stupid just because they’re in poverty. The woman in the interview even said she asks her clients to use a condom and they say it’s too expensive so they don’t. This is a problem of poverty, lack of economic opportunity and education to empower women.
@@ellie_5276 the Uk's population has been relatively stable since say, the 1920's only increasing slowly and a lot of the more recent increases say from 1960 have been aided by immigration.. so can you explain why the UK did not have this sort of population explosion.. I wonder how much experience of other cultures you have had.. ? there are strong religious and cultural forces to have lots of children.. Allah will decide how many children you will have and the Catholics are no better. Lack of economic opportunity.. so how did they manage historically ???.. education will not empower women when there is a culture of male dominance.. not sure about this African country, but most have a culture of multiple wives.. speaking to someone in Ghana, I asked her how many siblings she had. 21, her father had 3 wives... and I said "then that's your problem" and she replied, "but that's our culture".. I don't think you have any understanding at all..
@@milesinnz Climate change is a global threat while access to contraceptives is mainly a problem in poorer countries. It doesn't matter who has contraceptives and if you don't have renewable food sources and water. Let go of your hate.
Those fish are too small to harvest yet....they will be extinct very soon if they continue overfishing....The fish need to be farmed within the lake. Farming structure will create healthy yield also fish population growth
Lmao there are many species of fish that are exactly that size when fully grown. Not everything is a fucking tuna. Mind you, this is a lake they are talking about. Yes fish farm would help but this is a poor country, such investments rarely happen.
That it just pretends to be a democracy, to attract money, tourists, etc., and that the military government it getting more ruthless. Government silenced opposition leaders and some were even killed (by unknown). A deep investigated is necessary for sure. Neighbours are destabilizing too (with many similarities).
The CCP influence and basically chinese colonisation of Cambodia, especially the heroin production and export controlled directly by the PLA. If they have the balls to go to Myanmar it would be a better report honestly, situation there similar but much worse than Cambodia right now.
It’s a Lake not a damn Ocean. This video is kinda making them look stupid. Stop over fishing. You all can have food if y’all worked together and did moderation. Then use to profits to start other businesses pigs, cows, fruits and etc.
First minute, Malawi fisherman: "There's way less fish because there are so many people now". VICE: "Climate change is a major reason for less fish". 🤔
I mean the video talks about how the lakes are drying up more which has hurt the fish population as well. Climate change isn't the sole cause of the declining fish, but it has definitely exacerbated the problem.
@@rezablade1375 that’s exactly what I thought when I heard the line about climate change. They have no daily limits or anything. Of course there is over fishing
Total lack of management of one of the worlds greatest treasures..... nothing has been done to maintain the product since the 1980s despite billions of donated and tax payers funds spent on advisors, specialist assessments and reports.
@@darksoulquis5643 you think industry works for industry..??? really ??? who do you think the customers are ???... look at the data as regards population increases... and what the outlook for Africa is...
@@darksoulquis5643 I read all the news I can.. I speak to a lot of people in Africa.. I am providing a little support to a family in Sierra Leone, I have a second home in Cambodia where I am working on farming and engineering.. so I take in all the data I can... the population increase in Africa is going to overwhelm everything.. by 2050 will be 2,500 million just as China and even India face falling populations... if there is not to be mass starvation in Africa there has to be industrialization at least in Agriculture.. and what else is left to the young Africans ? the demographics are all young, less than 20 - there are not jobs for these now, so where will all the jobs come from in the future and if they do not have jobs, what will happen. Ethiopia is "industrializing" with their dam which is going to damage Egypt's agriculture where they have 30% unemployment already - they could go to war.. so if Africa does not industrialize, they will starve, bit no one wants to even talk about the population increase in Africa...
When you are poor, facing hardship, having 5 to 6 kids is something humans instinctively do to make sure at least 2 to 3 live to be healthy adults. It's deep human nature. Having only 2 to 3 kids is a luxury reserved for people with wealth or in wealthy parts of the world who deep down expect all of their children to live to be healthy adults. Some species always have a lot of offspring as their evolutionary survival trait while humans are adaptive and tend to have a lot of kids when it's unlikely all of them will survive to be adults healthy enough to bare another generation. This is basic human instinct and the reason our species has managed to avoid extinction, historically thrive in any environment, and spread to all corners of the earth.
It's not the cause, dude literally we've sold that idea to china and its actually making problem for men there to find partners, because the man to woman ratio now is super high every 10 men theres only 1 women there. And another example is India where having more children actually better for them because they are still agriculture based too, more hand more labor to farm with too. I'm highly recommend u and another 7 ppl that liked your comment to search it, its something actually unicef highly supported and backfired badly (india forced sterilization, one child policy)
@@TheDexsword yup. especially since based on per-capita numbers it's the humans living in the so-called developed world (US, western Europeans) that produce a vast majority of the worlds pollution and atmospheric carbon. The whole "the global south, ie brown, yellow, black people, are having too many kids and overpopulating" is a myth spread by wealthy Americans from Rockefeller to Bill Gates and deeply rooted in white-supremacist eugenics pseudoscience. So if you don't live in one of those 1st world nations that are by-far the per-capita biggest polluters and consumers, don't feel guilty about having kids because your lifestyle is actually sustainable even with double the population but if you live in one of those developed western nations where over-consumption and wastefully exploiting the environment treated like a virtue, then think about not having kids or having less kids at least until your western cultures learn to live sustainable lifestyles like the rest of the world.
Sometimes channels allow patrons to watch early, their likes will be up there as soon as us "regular" people can see the video. I'm not saying that happened here; A B probably knows what they're talking about, but that happens too.
Vice, please stop adding priming music to your interviews. You discredit your interviews by trying to make us feel a certain way. Stop acting like an entertainment company and more like news, as your name implies.
Fr tho I was wondering this to myself at the start of the video, why the hell they keep adding this music especially that music that has me feeling like I'm in the region where this takes place...
When the options are to fish or watch your whole family starve to death, there isn't really an option. Maybe steps should be taken to give them a reliable, healthy food source until the fish populations can recover
@@MrBakedDaily like what? Mining where they will be treated like slaves? Agriculture is difficult because of climate change and access to water. And it's not like they have access to education. So tell me what is the media hiding?
This is Royal, country’s which include Malawi tells countries from Europe and North America to get out and leave them alone. Now they want to tell their so stores to the same communities they want nothing to do with🤷♂️
its also mainly cuz of commercial fishing around the world, its believed that we will see no fish in the year 2048, if we keep eating fish like we are now
By 2050 they’re will be more plastic in the sea than fish. Plastic particles are ingested by fish and then us when we eat the fish. Wild caught fish isn’t sustainable farmed fish is better, but the best option is just to avoid sea food.
@@fieldofreeds8581 it's not exactly 90% in whole world. It is much less Assuming if there is any drop. People just farm fish. So i don't think it will drop everywhere. Yeah some fish species are in danger and disappearing but not 90%.
@@dandab4187 a lot of women that don't have an education find something else to do. I'm not shaming her for the work that she does It just seems like she's creating an endless cycle for herself and it's sad. The last thing she needs is more children. It's just sad for her and her children.
It is pretty big conflict of interest to ask a fisherman what the cause of lack of fish is. I don't doubt global warming being a major factor but given over-fishing is happening just about everywhere else in the world I'd venture to guess it is happening there too. Would've been nice to get an experts opinion or someone else with a less direct bias on the situation as well as the fisherman and women struggling with this issue.
That would be great if the locals had another income source to support themselves during the ban. The video itself already states there is a seasonal ban in place, but since there are no other ways to make money during the off-season, locals are forced to fish anyways to avoid starvation.
Now I could skip this ad at the beginning but it appears to be a hour of a Vietnamese gala from last year. No idea what’s going on but love the energy.
@@nmeyers92 all the donations do is destroy the economy in 3rd world countries. If we donate free clothes then the guy running the market can't feed his family
@@reedw.5477 exactly. Same thing with the food program in Haiti. We donate so much rice etc. all the farmers are out of business. Sure charity is great in desperate times but many times, especially after a long time, it does more damage than good. No one becomes an innovator. No one can start a company when everyone can get free clothes and food already. No incentive.
WHY? unseaworthy pair trawlers with no emission controls or safety standards using illegal size nets and fishing where ever they like, uncontrolled and untaxed WHY because they belong to big shots and members of government.
Meanwhile people and specially the young ones take everything as granted in the Western nations. People in the West have the best life in terms of economy, health and slef dignity with freedom.
Yes, I enjoy arguing with the police because I can't afford them to call me a $500 ambulance. I love how we have the most expensive health care system in the world, so I avoid going to the doctor. I love working for a corporation that doesn't give a crap about me, and living in a country that doesn't care about its people. I love living off of gratuity and begging for tips because customers are expected to pay my wages, not my employer. I love owing tens of thousands of dollars in student loans to the government that can never be removed by bankruptcy. You're right, I take it all for granted.
OK VICE News, where the heck is the Climate Change you're referring to?? I watched the entire video and the only thing I saw from your video is over fishing leading to depleting fishing resource from lake Malawi.
why are you ashamed lol? what do you think the people who got you there lived through? exactly this and even worse. actually feel shame for being ashamed.
Ask Malawi government why nothing has been done for the last 30years to ensure a sustainable future.... no laws enforced or implemented ....that’s why this result!
What happens to the citizens when they fight back? How can Malawi be so poor buts government can afford the best weapons and military gear to harass its citizens???
If the government actually cared this would be a different story.If the government made desalination plants,tapped into underground springs,etc,they would have water for crops and more jobs.
Well one should appreciate the fact that fisherman had more knowledge about climate change than the so called enviornmentalists and climate change experts.
I think the video is trying to explain a chain of events. Climate change=droughts =change in fishing practices =over fishing=selling sex fo fish. It's a chain reaction
Why don’t you help do something then? This is because of the pair trawlers owned by big shots.... Vice didn’t give the full story. Don’t sit in Malawi and complain ....do something
The problem is most likely in overfishing unfortunately. Climate change is a lesser problem in this case :( They are going to find some new income revenue soon, when the lake has no fish at all
This is why NO MATTER THE COST climate change must be stopped. The GDP future impact will be massive, and we can fund at least US green energy with just a fraction of the military budget.
They have to move. There is no other option. There’s no financial resources coming to give debt financing to a dying fishing business. The mother should move further inland, pursue a different business. Otherwise, what prospects does she have? Even the woman selling beer, that’s not so bad, but she’s clearly barely treading water. The fishing industry is a dying one. Especially coastal fishing and droughts ravage so many parts of the African coasts.
Let's go to the comment section to listen to the experts.
We is experts.
Or check out the idiots lol
population 1960 = 3.6 million, now 18.6 million.. how much of an "expert" do you have to be to figure this out ????
@@milesinnz What’s your point
@@Silchii did you fail at maths ?... if the Uk had this sort of population increase, then there would be 350 million in the UK and people would be desperate to get out to escape starvation and crime.... are you capable of joining two dots ???? give it a try... and the clue is, the problems in the UK would not have been climate change...
Well boy, I definitely didn’t expect all that from the title! 😯 😔
It lacks clickbait since fish is more scarce
Yep. Wow.
"selling sex for fish"... that happens in many lakeside communities across Africa, even in Western Kenya, beside Lake Victoria. That made HIV/AIDs prevalent in that region
Jesus... when I heard “selling sex for fish” I realized how blessed I really am 😳
Me too I can’t never see fish the same way again whenever I go to the market
ahmm Fish for Fish
@@deivydasbaksa3324 lmaooo
For money?
@Lomesh Bhoire Man, in the context, this bot/spam posting comes off as especially insensitive. I wonder if obvious spam posts like this even work on people? They must though, otherwise no one would even bother with it.
It kills me how many people in the world HAVE TO sell their bodies to survive...My heart breaks.
I think you just get paid badly, sex work is lucrative.
@@KuklusKlanas Sex work is very lucrative...that isn't my point. My point is all the people in the world that feel they HAVE to sell themselves because there is nothing left to sell and no work. Let's hope it never happens to you TROLL
Then give up your life for them. Otherwise stfu because no one really cares.
@@maxsjoberg788 Tell me how to give up my life for them? I own nothing tangible, I work what people would consider slave labour by most standards and I have been alone and have had times that almost led me to suicide. Should I off myself to prove a point TROLL?
I think if people WANT TO get paid for sex that's fine. I am talking about people that HAVE TO.
Be thankful for the little things you have everyday, it sad to see how the world is selfish
more like survival
selFISH lol
pun intended?
What are you doing to change that?
It’s just a total lack of control of any type , they are fishing the fish to extinction. Netting up all the small fish and wiping out the species. Lack of education at all on how to manage .
Spoken like a truly privileged white person
@@MrBrandonLau not white , just not stupid , Maybe you are the privileged white person,
WHY IS THE MUSIC SO LOUD
First minute of the video, the guy was like "Yeah we are running out of fish because of over-fishing due to an increase of population", and the reporter is like "Thats why climate change affects these people." Climate change is a way people sum up problems and blame it on other people instead of doing the things that actually solve or manage a problem.
Here are some potential problems that probably are the real f'n reasons.
Overfishing=Not enough management of resources
Not enough management of resources=Corrupt government pilfering away taxes meant to be used for things like resource management
Corrupt government officials
Yeah that sums it up.
population 1960 = 3.6 million, now 18.6 million.. what could possibly go wrong ?
Well no there's already underlying issues in many of these poor nations from the good ol time of exploration where the West fucked over most em. Now there's climate change - something also driven by the richest countries, which exacerbates all of the issues which no one solved.
The point here being yeah overfishing is a problem, its also a problem when the lake you fish in doesnt exist anymore.
So now the dream of escaping poverty doesnt even exist for some of these places. Since they cant even produce the economic surplus to invest in the infrastructure required to reduce poverty.
@@SarcasticDespot “from the good ol time”. Too many people on here have no idea of the longer term social and economic history and the movement of humans. They all assume that their history began a few hundred years ago at best. There have been more than 200 empires and most of those were before European countries had their own empires, and yes, some of those empires were in Africa. Do you even know that there were camel train of more than 10,000 crossing the Sahara with slaves to sell in North Africa when Britain's were running around in animal skins. Have you ever considered the spread of Islam across Africa ? Or even a place like India - how do you think it was formed ? Peacefully ? Did you know that the first slaves were White, so does this mean I can demand a home in Africa and be looked after for the rest of my life ? Did you know that there are Russian actively on the ground in African counties right now ? I think one is the Central African Republic ? So why no screams about this ? Because it does not fit the propaganda line which you have swallowed completely. There is half I book I could write - but those putting out the cheap propaganda can only manage a few lines, any more then it descends into obvious nonsense. The biggest problem in Africa right now is RELIGION, and that was imported so if African’s want to blame something, then they should blame this. “Allah will decide how many children you will have” and the Catholics are not any better.
@@milesinnz stop spamming it's really sad
@@oo--7714 why not try and say something meaningful... it would be a first for you... but then being brain dead won't help..
Lack of education and poverty, those two things keep us under pressure.
only indirectly as education tends to lead to a lower birth rate.. population 1960 = 3.6 million, now 18.6 million.. what could possibly go wrong ?
@@milesinnz they are heading towards oblivion.
Colonization maybe?
@@ericksocgfack5463 Not everything can be blamed on that. Most african leaders are corrupt af
@@xalpacazeu1332 and the ones who are not corrupt get killed.
it's sad that people have to live this way, but more sad that the fishing industry over-fishes and steals from other areas, forcing locals to go broke, and hungry.
People never talk about WHY there are no fish, because the industry is too powerful.
I have a slightly different take - this is a classic example of "tragedy of the commons", and this type of phenomena is rampant everywhere that certain costs can be externalized and borne by someone else (climate change is another example). It's in every fishers best interest to get as many fish as possible, and hence there is no economic incentive to fish sustainably. I'm not so certain we don't end up the same place without a powerful fishing industry, seems like even at the small scale we could end up in the same place.
@@Jason-sp5yc I like your nuance, but the concept they titled "tragedy of the commons" is really just double speak for the inherent flaw of current economics. A sound economic policy shouldn't rely on people acting a certain way no matter if it's greed or altruism. The only tragedy for these people is the failure of their government to support them. Nobody should have to sell their body, possibly getting pregnant in the process no less, for $8 per week. It's maddening.
population 1960 = 3.6 million, now 18.6 million.. and what has this to do with industry ???.. the video is just cheap propaganda as it ignores the real issue..
@@milesinnz unleash the kraken(Covid 19),you must be amped🤩
@@nkululekomfono4739 it is religion and culture that is the problem.. not so easy to fix
Population growth is clearly a contributing factor.
It gets so frustrating that these tikking timebombs dont get acknokwledged
I swear down. In third world countries population is exploding. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not bad for poor people to have kids but when they decide to have 7 or 8 like they do in Nigeria it’s an issue.
@@omomeidontaya3143 Do you know how big Africa is???? You can fit America and China in Africa and there’ll still be enough space. You people blaming population are just racist. So we shouldn’t have kids cause your country won’t stop exploiting us LMAOOO ok 👍
@@evano5635, population is a huge factor though, including the developed world.
@@John-mf6ky If you want to remove africa poverty. Then start building roads and infrastructure. Africa population is fine.
People used to catch large fish in this lake. In the recent past, this lake had some of the most diverse fish species in the world but many species are now extinct. The fish in this lake have been chronically over harvested leaving smaller and smaller breeding groups to repopulate. Like the fishermen said 30 seconds into the video, the ever growing population is why there are hardly any fish left. This has been an issue since before the recent effects of climate change exacerbated the problem.
The title should say- humans are making it harder to escape poverty. I hope the abundance of fishermen at lake malawi seek a new source of income, you cant pump water out of a dry well.
Omg wtf! dude we saw this video at the same time and wrote the same exact thing!!! Crazy divine providence. Truth!
The title is not for normal people who know. This title is for the next generation that knows nothing.
@vicenews Thank you for making an informative video but how did these women benefit?
Were they paid for these interviews a fair share of the profit that Vice makes on it? I got 5 ads while watching, are you in any way contributing to the improvement of their lives besides exposure? I look forward to your reply
They didn't reply :(
"Trading sex for fish"
Ok, I'm done.
fire your sound guy beause the cot mobile music just detracts from the impotrtance of the story.
As a Malawian, this is truly heartbreaking. But also the translations are comical in places 😂
In which places are the translations comical? I was curious about how accurate it was
5.25 ahaha I laughed so hard even though this is heartbreaking
@@towera can you explain ?
@@shahee6579 5.25 the guy says he has been beaten by Maluzi" -(Maluzi andimenya) "Maluzi" is a term we use to define brokenness or Poverty, "Andimenya" means beaten. So a better translation would be I've been beaten down by poverty or I'm really struggling financially. Hope that helps
@@towera Lol thank you! I was like "who the hell is Maruzi and why??" 🤣
It’s heartbreaking to see what these people are going through to survive. I hope the video increases support for these people and they have other alternative help regarding the fishing issue. I hope that videos like this help us realize what he take for granted and always be thankful.
What makes escaping poverty the hardest...is having children when you have nothing and can barely support yourself.
Populations start getting wealthier once they hit 1.5-2 children per family and...start having children later in life...e.g 25+
I agree fully with this and I see it all the time in these documentaries which I’ve never seen anyone touch on,
Exactly
Human won't stop breeding like cats and dogs n then they will talk about hunger..
I mean if I can't take care of myself
I've got no fuckin right of giving birth to kids
If I want to have it so badly go n adopt as many as you want
People started having an average of 1.5 children per family after they got educated and wealthy. It's an effect not a cause. Experts have found that the single best predictor of family size is woman's education.
Many poor families have lots of children because children can help with household and farm tasks. Many children often die in infancy so having many is somewhat of an insurance policy. Lastly, access to contraceptive and reproductive health options is often fairly limited in poorer nations.
@@kellylinstra1135 It goes hand in hand. Fewer children is both the cause and effect. Having fewer children means/no children when you are a teen means that you can get an education yourself. Once you are stuck with 3 children at the age of 16....your education is done. Especially if you are alone with the children. This is true even in developed countries. Once you are a single mom with 3 kids...you are almost always set for a life close to the poverty line.
Its basic logic really. If you can produce resources for 1 person and then add 3 extra people, then...you will have to divide that 1 resource between more people, meaning that everybody will get less than what you started with. Take the children of the women in this video. Are they gonna have an easier life and more opportunities compared to their mother( before she had children? ). Having children also means that it becomes much more difficult to move and find a new place to live.
Seriously all these people have a bunch of kids and no way to support them other than sex trade so they claim. Don't have kids if you know you have no way to support them and bring them out of property unless of course you're having kids so they will bring you out of poverty.... 😶
Just wanted to know, how does the houses of Malawi's politicians look like?
Not like the common and poor folk
So sad to hear their stories :( and indeed women being one of the most vulnerable and affected populations due to climate change
Having less/no children will help massively though .. both against poverty and climate change
Look at the size of fish theyre taking home. Def overfishing
They are fishing for specific type of fish like a sardine called Usipa or Kapenta that only grows to that size, it is the only species not under immediate threat, lights and nets are used to catch them on moonless nights.
Yeah, I was thinking the same... is it really climate change or just them overfishing... Im betting the latter, even though I think climate change is a problem.
What a desperately sad situation for all involved. And we in the west sit on our smartphones watching that suffering for “entertainment”.... the world is so unjust and I am so sorry that people suffer like this at the hands of others.
thats 99% of all human lives in all history, yet today we have contest on who suffers more
Right, the government just sent everyone 1400 dollars, how can i complain?
@TheExplorer lol good logic bro tell poor ppl to stop having sex. Cuz you know that's always worked.
Your sorry but u won’t give up your life so stop preaching and do something or be quiet.
They are fishing themselves to extinction
Oh and don't forget to chop down those last trees too.
f*ck you on about mate ?
@@gideonhotspurr5271 he’s being sarcastic
They don’t see that constantly fishing a lake with giant nets causes disappearence of fish.....
Why is the music so loud though?
In my phone it's alright
Why is the background music so loud?
because
Yeah it’s called overfishing, learn some conservation. It could be a renewable resource.
It was a renewable resource for probably thousands of years, the problem is the population increased drastically and the lake can't support them all. When fish are your only option to feed yourself and your family, you're gonna keep fishing. What these people really need are more job opportunities, relying on a single lake is their downfall. If they had other options then the lake wouldn't be so depleted. And sex education would help to prevent families in poverty from having way too many children which is what causes the overpopulation in the first place. More people = more poverty and environmental catastrophe
@@sneersh9107 exactly. This is not just a climate change issue caused by outsiders.
Real problem is overpopulation and overfishing. The fish don't get a chance to repopulate being hunted all the time
we need to start educating developing countries about contraception and help provide support. Its a humanitarian crisis at this point
Climate change first please.
@@Ainttrippin population 1960 = 3.6 million, now 18.6 million.. ah.. do you really know what you are talking about.. seems you like to push the propaganda just like the cheap frauds who made the video... are you blind ? what has this to do with climate change other than to hasten it ????
They aren’t stupid just because they’re in poverty. The woman in the interview even said she asks her clients to use a condom and they say it’s too expensive so they don’t. This is a problem of poverty, lack of economic opportunity and education to empower women.
@@ellie_5276 the Uk's population has been relatively stable since say, the 1920's only increasing slowly and a lot of the more recent increases say from 1960 have been aided by immigration.. so can you explain why the UK did not have this sort of population explosion.. I wonder how much experience of other cultures you have had.. ? there are strong religious and cultural forces to have lots of children.. Allah will decide how many children you will have and the Catholics are no better. Lack of economic opportunity.. so how did they manage historically ???.. education will not empower women when there is a culture of male dominance.. not sure about this African country, but most have a culture of multiple wives.. speaking to someone in Ghana, I asked her how many siblings she had. 21, her father had 3 wives... and I said "then that's your problem" and she replied, "but that's our culture".. I don't think you have any understanding at all..
@@milesinnz Climate change is a global threat while access to contraceptives is mainly a problem in poorer countries. It doesn't matter who has contraceptives and if you don't have renewable food sources and water. Let go of your hate.
Wow this is perfectly on cue
Those fish are too small to harvest yet....they will be extinct very soon if they continue overfishing....The fish need to be farmed within the lake. Farming structure will create healthy yield also fish population growth
Lmao there are many species of fish that are exactly that size when fully grown. Not everything is a fucking tuna. Mind you, this is a lake they are talking about. Yes fish farm would help but this is a poor country, such investments rarely happen.
It can happen for healthy farming in lake Malowi
Damn wish you were the President...only common sense solution here!!!
The Vice we need. Great job
Planning on making a video on Cambodia?
and what sort of point would you want to make about Cambodia ?
@@milesinnz cocaine?
That it just pretends to be a democracy, to attract money, tourists, etc., and that the military government it getting more ruthless. Government silenced opposition leaders and some were even killed (by unknown).
A deep investigated is necessary for sure. Neighbours are destabilizing too (with many similarities).
@@flabber55tv83 they don't grow cocaine in Cambodia...
The CCP influence and basically chinese colonisation of Cambodia, especially the heroin production and export controlled directly by the PLA. If they have the balls to go to Myanmar it would be a better report honestly, situation there similar but much worse than Cambodia right now.
It’s a Lake not a damn Ocean. This video is kinda making them look stupid. Stop over fishing. You all can have food if y’all worked together and did moderation. Then use to profits to start other businesses pigs, cows, fruits and etc.
First minute, Malawi fisherman:
"There's way less fish because there are so many people now".
VICE: "Climate change is a major reason for less fish". 🤔
I mean the video talks about how the lakes are drying up more which has hurt the fish population as well. Climate change isn't the sole cause of the declining fish, but it has definitely exacerbated the problem.
Yeah vice fucked up and missed the reason which is indiscriminate overfishing by pair trawlers belonging to a few elites
@@rezablade1375 that’s exactly what I thought when I heard the line about climate change. They have no daily limits or anything. Of course there is over fishing
Total lack of management of one of the worlds greatest treasures..... nothing has been done to maintain the product since the 1980s despite billions of donated and tax payers funds spent on advisors, specialist assessments and reports.
@@dankdweb overfishing is the main cause of fish populations decline all over the world. climate change is actually a lesser problem in that case
Stop netting small fry/juvenile fish! Otherwise the population will decline for sure.
And people say western democracies are bad...this looks like hell
Overpopulation is also a huge problem. Africa’s population is set to grow from 1 billion today to around 4 billion
It’s ironic because denying climate change and inaction makes people very rich, it’s happened in the past and will continue to happen in the future.
population 1960 = 3.6 million, now 18.6 million.. - please explain what this has to do with "climate change"... this video is just cheap propaganda...
@@darksoulquis5643 you think industry works for industry..??? really ??? who do you think the customers are ???... look at the data as regards population increases... and what the outlook for Africa is...
@@darksoulquis5643 I read all the news I can.. I speak to a lot of people in Africa.. I am providing a little support to a family in Sierra Leone, I have a second home in Cambodia where I am working on farming and engineering.. so I take in all the data I can... the population increase in Africa is going to overwhelm everything.. by 2050 will be 2,500 million just as China and even India face falling populations... if there is not to be mass starvation in Africa there has to be industrialization at least in Agriculture.. and what else is left to the young Africans ? the demographics are all young, less than 20 - there are not jobs for these now, so where will all the jobs come from in the future and if they do not have jobs, what will happen. Ethiopia is "industrializing" with their dam which is going to damage Egypt's agriculture where they have 30% unemployment already - they could go to war.. so if Africa does not industrialize, they will starve, bit no one wants to even talk about the population increase in Africa...
@@darksoulquis5643 education could help to defeat this cycle..
and would require climate wars on developing nations like this killing more or just as many people as climate change
"There's a big difference because of the increasing population in our towns"
-local fisherman
"And climate change"
-vice
I think overfishing has probably caused the population of fish to drop. Hasn’t anyone ever heard of the tragedy of the commons?
I would be poor too with 6 kids, damn.
They need to invest in making fishfarms for a steady fish supply.
No birth control in that area
I can assure you everyone with no kids in that area is poor as well lol. It doesn't help, but it's not the cause.
When you are poor, facing hardship, having 5 to 6 kids is something humans instinctively do to make sure at least 2 to 3 live to be healthy adults. It's deep human nature. Having only 2 to 3 kids is a luxury reserved for people with wealth or in wealthy parts of the world who deep down expect all of their children to live to be healthy adults. Some species always have a lot of offspring as their evolutionary survival trait while humans are adaptive and tend to have a lot of kids when it's unlikely all of them will survive to be adults healthy enough to bare another generation. This is basic human instinct and the reason our species has managed to avoid extinction, historically thrive in any environment, and spread to all corners of the earth.
It's not the cause, dude literally we've sold that idea to china and its actually making problem for men there to find partners, because the man to woman ratio now is super high every 10 men theres only 1 women there. And another example is India where having more children actually better for them because they are still agriculture based too, more hand more labor to farm with too. I'm highly recommend u and another 7 ppl that liked your comment to search it, its something actually unicef highly supported and backfired badly (india forced sterilization, one child policy)
@@TheDexsword yup. especially since based on per-capita numbers it's the humans living in the so-called developed world (US, western Europeans) that produce a vast majority of the worlds pollution and atmospheric carbon. The whole "the global south, ie brown, yellow, black people, are having too many kids and overpopulating" is a myth spread by wealthy Americans from Rockefeller to Bill Gates and deeply rooted in white-supremacist eugenics pseudoscience. So if you don't live in one of those 1st world nations that are by-far the per-capita biggest polluters and consumers, don't feel guilty about having kids because your lifestyle is actually sustainable even with double the population but if you live in one of those developed western nations where over-consumption and wastefully exploiting the environment treated like a virtue, then think about not having kids or having less kids at least until your western cultures learn to live sustainable lifestyles like the rest of the world.
The temperature in the UK has changed to such an extent that we can now fish salmon.. the fish have actually migrated to our waters.
imagine what would happen if the women learned to fish.
LAKE LEVEL IS NORMAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TRAWLERS ARE THE PROBLEM!!!!!!!!! Hello Vice wake up or shut up!
Great video keep us aware everytime.
Wow, emotional and superb work Vice.
Video says it was uploaded a minute ago but there are comments from 4 hours ago 🧐
Sometimes channels allow patrons to watch early, their likes will be up there as soon as us "regular" people can see the video.
I'm not saying that happened here; A B probably knows what they're talking about, but that happens too.
Seems stupid. Trade sex for fish and you will end up with more mouths to feed.
Vice, please stop adding priming music to your interviews. You discredit your interviews by trying to make us feel a certain way. Stop acting like an entertainment company and more like news, as your name implies.
Fr tho I was wondering this to myself at the start of the video, why the hell they keep adding this music especially that music that has me feeling like I'm in the region where this takes place...
The Warm Heart of Africa 🌍
This place is nearly fished out ,maybe they should stop fishing as much set a quota.
When the options are to fish or watch your whole family starve to death, there isn't really an option. Maybe steps should be taken to give them a reliable, healthy food source until the fish populations can recover
@@seaamundsen4687 That's what the media wants you to think,think my friend there's plenty of others way to get food especially the way they live.
@@MrBakedDaily Farming or raising livestock is hard work.
@@MrBakedDaily like what? Mining where they will be treated like slaves? Agriculture is difficult because of climate change and access to water. And it's not like they have access to education. So tell me what is the media hiding?
@@irvingsolano2749 access to water... their on the banks of a giant lake dummy
This is Royal, country’s which include Malawi tells countries from Europe and North America to get out and leave them alone.
Now they want to tell their so stores to the same communities they want nothing to do with🤷♂️
its also mainly cuz of commercial fishing around the world, its believed that we will see no fish in the year 2048, if we keep eating fish like we are now
Wait seriously? *I thought we were over fishing the same kinds so others were not being utilized.* Humans can do better.
Yep. Watch Seaspiracy!
By 2050 they’re will be more plastic in the sea than fish. Plastic particles are ingested by fish and then us when we eat the fish. Wild caught fish isn’t sustainable farmed fish is better, but the best option is just to avoid sea food.
@@fieldofreeds8581 💯
Umm have you ever heard of Fish farming/ fish agriculture
90% drop in fish amount??? damnnnnn :(
And it’s actually worldwide.
@@fieldofreeds8581 it's not exactly 90% in whole world. It is much less Assuming if there is any drop. People just farm fish. So i don't think it will drop everywhere. Yeah some fish species are in danger and disappearing but not 90%.
90%😵
I knowwwww 🥺🥺🥺🥺
Can't support her kids so turns to a profession that gives her more kids that she's not going to be able to support. Sounds like a great plan.
She doesn't have a education what else is she supposed to do??
@@dandab4187 a lot of women that don't have an education find something else to do. I'm not shaming her for the work that she does It just seems like she's creating an endless cycle for herself and it's sad. The last thing she needs is more children. It's just sad for her and her children.
Anyone else notice how loud the music got at 5:05 and then just cut off for the next scene? It was hella distracting lol
Dude, i thought I had music playing in the background, 😂
Maybe.... cultivating the fish in the lake helps?
It is pretty big conflict of interest to ask a fisherman what the cause of lack of fish is. I don't doubt global warming being a major factor but given over-fishing is happening just about everywhere else in the world I'd venture to guess it is happening there too. Would've been nice to get an experts opinion or someone else with a less direct bias on the situation as well as the fisherman and women struggling with this issue.
sad but there needs to be a ban for fishing to allow fish to recover. Then when they're back a sustainable quota needs to be caught every year
That would be great if the locals had another income source to support themselves during the ban. The video itself already states there is a seasonal ban in place, but since there are no other ways to make money during the off-season, locals are forced to fish anyways to avoid starvation.
Over fishing doesn't help eather
To manny fishers always leads to less fish.
Industrial fisherman are the ones to blame not poor fisherman
@@speicherkanal4894 your racist my guy who tf says "blacks"
@@D0nnyy its a lake not the ocean, i didnt see anything industrial just local fishers
@@D0nnyy Say purple
@@rangelove *why r u gae*
Now I could skip this ad at the beginning but it appears to be a hour of a Vietnamese gala from last year. No idea what’s going on but love the energy.
It's such a heartbreaking news that Malawians' lives are threatened by environmental crises.
Wow a Chicago shirt all the way out there huh 😳👏
American cultural imperialism
Where do you think all our “donated” clothes go in the US? Most of it to Third world and impoverished countries...
@@nmeyers92 believe it or not people can afford to buy there own clothes in these countries...
@@nmeyers92 all the donations do is destroy the economy in 3rd world countries. If we donate free clothes then the guy running the market can't feed his family
@@reedw.5477 exactly. Same thing with the food program in Haiti. We donate so much rice etc. all the farmers are out of business. Sure charity is great in desperate times but many times, especially after a long time, it does more damage than good. No one becomes an innovator. No one can start a company when everyone can get free clothes and food already. No incentive.
Free Tibet, Free Hong Kong , Free Inner Mongolia, Free Xinjiang , free Myanmar and protect Taiwan
WHY? unseaworthy pair trawlers with no emission controls or safety standards using illegal size nets and fishing where ever they like, uncontrolled and untaxed WHY because they belong to big shots and members of government.
Meanwhile people and specially the young ones take everything as granted in the Western nations. People in the West have the best life in terms of economy, health and slef dignity with freedom.
Yes, I enjoy arguing with the police because I can't afford them to call me a $500 ambulance. I love how we have the most expensive health care system in the world, so I avoid going to the doctor. I love working for a corporation that doesn't give a crap about me, and living in a country that doesn't care about its people. I love living off of gratuity and begging for tips because customers are expected to pay my wages, not my employer. I love owing tens of thousands of dollars in student loans to the government that can never be removed by bankruptcy. You're right, I take it all for granted.
@@-cheshire-cat Wallowing in your own self- pity isn't going to solve your problems
Yes.
Paying to live oh how lucky we are!
The main problem isn't lack of fish, nor climate change, but the lack of education.
Yeah in government..... trawlers belonging to them and other big shots are the cause of this and vice omitted this crucial fact
OK VICE News, where the heck is the Climate Change you're referring to?? I watched the entire video and the only thing I saw from your video is over fishing leading to depleting fishing resource from lake Malawi.
I feel ashamed to live a traditional western lifestyle knowing these people especially the women are stronger then I will ever be. Bless them all!
why are you ashamed lol? what do you think the people who got you there lived through? exactly this and even worse. actually feel shame for being ashamed.
Ask Malawi government why nothing has been done for the last 30years to ensure a sustainable future.... no laws enforced or implemented ....that’s why this result!
What happens to the citizens when they fight back? How can Malawi be so poor buts government can afford the best weapons and military gear to harass its citizens???
Jah Jah for us all Africans
Lake Malawi has more species of fish than any other body of water in the world.... worth protecting, it should be more important than the Galapagos
But Galapagos is not in Africa is it? Racism😆😆😆😆😆😆
If the government actually cared this would be a different story.If the government made desalination plants,tapped into underground springs,etc,they would have water for crops and more jobs.
My only complaint in the video is the music being louder the the voices sometimes
What does climate change have to do with overfishing? Droughts have been a thing of all ages.
BS narrative
Sounds like the main problem is the men wanting sex!
Well one should appreciate the fact that fisherman had more knowledge about climate change than the so called enviornmentalists and climate change experts.
It sounds like over fishing is the problem
I think the video is trying to explain a chain of events. Climate change=droughts =change in fishing practices =over fishing=selling sex fo fish. It's a chain reaction
Ignorance and poverty =Deadly combination
Anymore videos on Malawi?
So what will they do once they've destroyed all of their resources while breeding, all move to Zuid-Afrika?
I wouldn't last 10 minutes over there.
I could probably last like 4. I'd make her earn the fish, though.
@@pepesylvia848 jesus christ
Your title is painfully misleading Vox!
Get it together.
Vox 🤣🤣
It’s commercial fishing hurting their yields, not climate change
We used to call this overfishing not climate change
Someone forgot to duck the audio
Industry means more jobs, cheaper product, cleaner water, more warmth, more productivity with less labour. Fossil fuels must be used for these things.
So sad to see my people struggling like this
I live in Malawi and this is sad
Why don’t you help do something then? This is because of the pair trawlers owned by big shots.... Vice didn’t give the full story. Don’t sit in Malawi and complain ....do something
@@rezablade1375 no u
I guess you could say the fisherman are a bit sellfish
« Climate change » .... Couldn’t it be the result of over-fishing the same areas by thousands of people for all these years...?
Climate change does have a part of provety. But the blame is squarely on the governments who won't help poor people better their lives!
The problem is most likely in overfishing unfortunately. Climate change is a lesser problem in this case :( They are going to find some new income revenue soon, when the lake has no fish at all
This is why NO MATTER THE COST climate change must be stopped. The GDP future impact will be massive, and we can fund at least US green energy with just a fraction of the military budget.
They have to move. There is no other option. There’s no financial resources coming to give debt financing to a dying fishing business. The mother should move further inland, pursue a different business. Otherwise, what prospects does she have?
Even the woman selling beer, that’s not so bad, but she’s clearly barely treading water. The fishing industry is a dying one. Especially coastal fishing and droughts ravage so many parts of the African coasts.