This was pure gold in that time. I learned how to play 2v2 then 3v3 after this video. Only after seeing Cherez playing his hunter i started going into high ratings. Before that 1850-1950 was like best i could think off. After the video 2k, 2.2k for shoulders then and WOTLK Gladiator arenas. Nostalgia man...i Dont think i can ever get back to this game and have the same fun i had.
i found this awesome pvp movie after years.. I like it so much. one of the best tbc vids i´ve ever seen. i just started to farm and improve my pvp gear and skill for my druide in tbc after watching this video tbh :-) furthermore the music selection is so insane.
I don't think any pvp video had more of an effect on the competitive pvp scene as this video. I was fairly high rated at the time and the number of hunters before compared to after this video was insane.
Interesting! Would you say this was the absolutely top 2s comp then? Or did they also have a counter comp? Because in most old Arena Ladder Screens you see Druid/Warr Druid/Rogue & Druid/Lock on Top.... maybe this comp was discovered too late? Dont know man... just thinking about rolling Hunter when Classic TBC comes!
The impact this video had on the competitive scene is entirely different to the one you imagine. Beasteh was widely mocked for his showcase here. Especially considering that cherez and beasteh used to stay all night, waiting till the better players go to sleep so they can farm some nubs in peace.
@@Defilerx Having played that same comp in tbc back in then day, I remember the struggle of facing any good double dps comp with rogues. Rogue/lock and rogue/feral were nightmares.
@@Defilerx No it wasn't. Hunter is at best a C or B- tier class even with the best comp possible in TBC. These players were just way ahead of their time. Any decent double dps with S tier classes such as rogues and mages and most other high tier comps will demolish a hunter in 2s and 3s in TBC. The class just lacks a ton of what makes it good in later expansions.
@@Defilerx you can see at the start of the video the most played comps back then. in 2v2 it was all warrior druid/lock druid(druids were super OP). hunters were very rare on the ladder because of the skill required and more punishing mechanics hunter was quite bad in tbc arena, the hunter in this video was far ahead of most players and placed very high in lan tournaments back then hunter was very easy to exploit if you knew its weaknesses, the pet has no resilience or defensive abilities(basically kill the pet once and your healer can drink forever), the melee/ranged deadzone was super exploitable, trap needed scatter setup rogue mage priest druid lock warrior were all just better classes. blizzard tried to improve hunters in wotlk but made them super broken in season 5/6
IF we get Classic TBC: what do you guys think will be the best 2v2 Combo? Will it be Hunter/druid all the way s1-s4 ? Or was this just a thing with Illidan Bow? Like how do you think the Meta will look like? I guess A LOT of people will Roll Rogue/Warr because of Glaives so it might be a good Idea to play a Class that Counters Melees? I am thinking about Warlock/Druid but I am not sure, all I know is that I rly wanna play a 1dps/1 heal 2v2 Setup!
@@tobiaspabst5524 Mmmh okay... but I wanna play Alliance! :D This is what I meant... u need to be horde to reach top ranks as a rogue imo. Thats why I think about playing Lock or Warr in TBC... there I can just go gnome! :)
@@Defilerx Late reply, but as seen on TBC private servers there are some rogue comps who are best on alliance. Disc/Rogue is one of them (Dwarf priest, Gnome rogue)
Can’t believe this popped up. I remember a game against u guys that lasted for over 4 hours on Blade’s Edge. I was named Razta (ud warr) playing with a druid (Taran). I think we won that one. Viper sting was so op with sustainability u guys had. Unkillable really, i had to kill ur pet over and over and u went for the revive
this literally didnt happen lol check the end of the video, he gives a shoutout to his guild Decimation this was the guild he was in from 60(at 60 they had some high rankings in naxx) and still in that guild at lvl 70, he raided with them up to black temple i believe then went pro in arena and rejoined them years when the guild rebooted in wrath i know this because i was on the same server as them(Talnivarr) and was in the guild in wrath
@@wowwt Stats from back in TBC show that Hunter is the least represented class getting R1 in all consecutive TBC seasons. You could cheese stuff with Viper Sting Drain spam and unkillable druids, but top rankings in 2v2 were only retarded comps of that kind.
Have you even watched the video? Their enemies have no clue what they are doing. Literally none. Druids are running around for no reason in caster form, they do not even bother switching pillars when one gets frost trapped on nagrand. Whereas warriors go for the pet, getting perma cc'd. Beasteh didnt once fake cast in the entire video. Their opponents couldnt make it any easier for them. For crying out loud, in the lock priest matchup the fel hunter is following cherez and losing the priest. This isnt a showcase of skill, its a showcase of farming trash. I dont get why does that impress you people.
@@mac19999x Mmmh not sure man, to mee it looks like their comp basically outplayed every melee comp? Rogues/Warrs basically get kited and the healers get drained oom... But I am still wondering IF there is a counter comp/tactic to their team? MAybe Warlock/Druid? Dont know
@@Defilerx yeah... because their enemies are shit. Look closely, count how many times vs warrior/druid the warrior decides to use mortal strike instead of hamstring on the hunter, even if the war is about to get cc'ed and he's going to get one attack off. Now then we have the question of druids running in caster form for no reason, eating those viper string ticks, eating those multishot crits. These games look entirely different against competent people.
Played with cherez in 5vs5 more than 10years ago and at that Time it was the top level. Now obviously it look ridiculous but in this video they were playing agaisnt the top 50
ROFL. Srry this is just LOL. Hunter was nothing in TBC? Hunter had one of the strongest abilities in the game - viper sting. Sure it required skill to play it successful and it wasn't the faceroll from later expansions, but it was far from nothing. Hunter druid consistently held a spot among the top arena teams throughout all of BC.
Hunter played with either priest or druid and was extremely cancer in 2s. Both comps were r1 viable since they dicked majority of healer teams and rogue druid or rogue priest was just free win.
Hunter - Druid in that particular meta was pretty , pretty strong , even more if you add the fact that the hunter was playing with the illidian bow that at the time drained 8 mana from each auto attack The scorpion was fairly tanky and was a great poision protect against abolish poison or any poison dispel for the viper string , that sucker put on you 5 stacks of useless poision but was so key at the time to make harder for the RNG to dispel the viper poison from the hunter that burned the mana like crazy The pressure of the hunter allowed beasteh to do pretty much whatever he wanted , not many druid (I was Druid Gladiator back in s4 and being Duelist in s3 and later on into the wotlk) comps allowed you to have so much space and freedom to do and undo as the hunter ones , (It is true that turtleing with a hunter was impossible if you fall behind your lose but... it was a strong comp nonetheless)
they didnt even harmstring the hunter... Look at 16:32. Warrior is stuck in roots, cherez runs to wingclip the guy, the warrior keeps tunneling the pet, doesnt even slow the hunter. Literally lets both the hunter and druid do whatever they want.
This hunter was way ahead of its time
except for hunter back then was a completely different class than these days.
real true
half of his damage is melee xD and vipersting
this is by far the best hunter movie ever made
Danaik 3 triple D, don't forget that 1, best ever pvp vid of all time to be honest
@Nik Ko I agree 1000%. It's what made me want to be a hunter in PVP. I remember when it came out. BC. Fuck I feel old
I liked homerjay from AT wotlk playing with his ret Pala. That's a gutsy video
1 of my favs of all time, was thinking about it for a couple days before it finally came to me i remembered cherezs name
I remembered beasteh 😄
This is, of all the WCM's I've seen the past 1½ decade, a top 5. So ahead of his time.
This was pure gold in that time. I learned how to play 2v2 then 3v3 after this video. Only after seeing Cherez playing his
hunter i started going into high ratings. Before that 1850-1950 was like
best i could think off. After the video 2k, 2.2k for shoulders then and
WOTLK Gladiator arenas. Nostalgia man...i Dont think i can ever get
back to this game and have the same fun i had.
Imagine - Vanilla players now claim that Arenas killed WoW pvp.
so true man, the good old times
@@poorpriest4549 Hate it when those "Vanilla players" are always right
The good old times pvp in TBC. Love this!
i found this awesome pvp movie after years.. I like it so much. one of the best tbc vids i´ve ever seen. i just started to farm and improve my pvp gear and skill for my druide in tbc after watching this video tbh :-) furthermore the music selection is so insane.
I don't think any pvp video had more of an effect on the competitive pvp scene as this video. I was fairly high rated at the time and the number of hunters before compared to after this video was insane.
Interesting! Would you say this was the absolutely top 2s comp then? Or did they also have a counter comp? Because in most old Arena Ladder Screens you see Druid/Warr Druid/Rogue & Druid/Lock on Top.... maybe this comp was discovered too late? Dont know man... just thinking about rolling Hunter when Classic TBC comes!
The impact this video had on the competitive scene is entirely different to the one you imagine. Beasteh was widely mocked for his showcase here. Especially considering that cherez and beasteh used to stay all night, waiting till the better players go to sleep so they can farm some nubs in peace.
@@Defilerx
Having played that same comp in tbc back in then day, I remember the struggle of facing any good double dps comp with rogues. Rogue/lock and rogue/feral were nightmares.
@@Defilerx No it wasn't. Hunter is at best a C or B- tier class even with the best comp possible in TBC. These players were just way ahead of their time. Any decent double dps with S tier classes such as rogues and mages and most other high tier comps will demolish a hunter in 2s and 3s in TBC. The class just lacks a ton of what makes it good in later expansions.
@@Defilerx
you can see at the start of the video the most played comps back then. in 2v2 it was all warrior druid/lock druid(druids were super OP). hunters were very rare on the ladder because of the skill required and more punishing mechanics
hunter was quite bad in tbc arena, the hunter in this video was far ahead of most players and placed very high in lan tournaments back then
hunter was very easy to exploit if you knew its weaknesses, the pet has no resilience or defensive abilities(basically kill the pet once and your healer can drink forever), the melee/ranged deadzone was super exploitable, trap needed scatter setup
rogue mage priest druid lock warrior were all just better classes. blizzard tried to improve hunters in wotlk but made them super broken in season 5/6
These guys showed me so much, thnx for that
What an amazing video
Back then the hunter nailed it. But to be fair, viper sting + silence was OP af and Druid was the best healer/cc in the whole game. Insane combo.
IF we get Classic TBC: what do you guys think will be the best 2v2 Combo? Will it be Hunter/druid all the way s1-s4 ? Or was this just a thing with Illidan Bow? Like how do you think the Meta will look like? I guess A LOT of people will Roll Rogue/Warr because of Glaives so it might be a good Idea to play a Class that Counters Melees? I am thinking about Warlock/Druid but I am not sure, all I know is that I rly wanna play a 1dps/1 heal 2v2 Setup!
Nothing counters disc rogue with glaives and mp5 gear.
@@tobiaspabst5524 Hey okay mmh but do u need to be human / undead rogue to reach top ranks? I think it might be the case :E
@@Defilerx undead.
Human is only good for getting openers on mage rogue and druid rogue teams.
@@tobiaspabst5524 Mmmh okay... but I wanna play Alliance! :D This is what I meant... u need to be horde to reach top ranks as a rogue imo. Thats why I think about playing Lock or Warr in TBC... there I can just go gnome! :)
@@Defilerx Late reply, but as seen on TBC private servers there are some rogue comps who are best on alliance. Disc/Rogue is one of them (Dwarf priest, Gnome rogue)
Viper sting to the top
oh boy this is a classic
mentors
Can’t believe this popped up. I remember a game against u guys that lasted for over 4 hours on Blade’s Edge. I was named Razta (ud warr) playing with a druid (Taran). I think we won that one.
Viper sting was so op with sustainability u guys had. Unkillable really, i had to kill ur pet over and over and u went for the revive
remember when i played with beasteh at lvl 60..took the entire guild bank and quit the server..awsome guy..
thats made up bullshit to get attention for your tiny self, nothing else
freak
this literally didnt happen lol
check the end of the video, he gives a shoutout to his guild Decimation
this was the guild he was in from 60(at 60 they had some high rankings in naxx) and still in that guild at lvl 70, he raided with them up to black temple i believe then went pro in arena and rejoined them years when the guild rebooted in wrath
i know this because i was on the same server as them(Talnivarr) and was in the guild in wrath
when the hunter was weak but a player called cherez didnt accept that
Are you high? Rdruid hunter during tbc was free glad/r1 lmao
@@wowwt how can it be free r1 when there is only 1 r1 every season but many dr00ds.
@@sinanogan imagine thinking there is only 1 single battlegroup. ok man...
@@wowwt Stats from back in TBC show that Hunter is the least represented class getting R1 in all consecutive TBC seasons. You could cheese stuff with Viper Sting Drain spam and unkillable druids, but top rankings in 2v2 were only retarded comps of that kind.
This video made me re-roll hunter, got glad s3 and 4 - top1 hunter on server and hovering between nr1/2nd on battlegrp :3
Yeeeess
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name of first song?
Pendulum - Streamline
This video basically created the Hunter Druid comp in S3 back in the day.
Have you even watched the video? Their enemies have no clue what they are doing. Literally none. Druids are running around for no reason in caster form, they do not even bother switching pillars when one gets frost trapped on nagrand. Whereas warriors go for the pet, getting perma cc'd. Beasteh didnt once fake cast in the entire video. Their opponents couldnt make it any easier for them. For crying out loud, in the lock priest matchup the fel hunter is following cherez and losing the priest. This isnt a showcase of skill, its a showcase of farming trash. I dont get why does that impress you people.
@@mac19999x Mmmh not sure man, to mee it looks like their comp basically outplayed every melee comp? Rogues/Warrs basically get kited and the healers get drained oom... But I am still wondering IF there is a counter comp/tactic to their team? MAybe Warlock/Druid? Dont know
@@Defilerx yeah... because their enemies are shit. Look closely, count how many times vs warrior/druid the warrior decides to use mortal strike instead of hamstring on the hunter, even if the war is about to get cc'ed and he's going to get one attack off. Now then we have the question of druids running in caster form for no reason, eating those viper string ticks, eating those multishot crits. These games look entirely different against competent people.
Played with cherez in 5vs5 more than 10years ago and at that Time it was the top level. Now obviously it look ridiculous but in this video they were playing agaisnt the top 50
This Duo dominated when Hunter was nothing
ROFL. Srry this is just LOL. Hunter was nothing in TBC? Hunter had one of the strongest abilities in the game - viper sting. Sure it required skill to play it successful and it wasn't the faceroll from later expansions, but it was far from nothing. Hunter druid consistently held a spot among the top arena teams throughout all of BC.
hunter had only one good setup and it was with druid, not much option in 2's tho
Hunter played with either priest or druid and was extremely cancer in 2s. Both comps were r1 viable since they dicked majority of healer teams and rogue druid or rogue priest was just free win.
ye sure you can add priest, but druid had more cc, interrupt, poison dispell, which was really good with hunter
Hunter - Druid in that particular meta was pretty , pretty strong , even more if you add the fact that the hunter was playing with the illidian bow that at the time drained 8 mana from each auto attack
The scorpion was fairly tanky and was a great poision protect against abolish poison or any poison dispel for the viper string , that sucker put on you 5 stacks of useless poision but was so key at the time to make harder for the RNG to dispel the viper poison from the hunter that burned the mana like crazy
The pressure of the hunter allowed beasteh to do pretty much whatever he wanted , not many druid (I was Druid Gladiator back in s4 and being Duelist in s3 and later on into the wotlk) comps allowed you to have so much space and freedom to do and undo as the hunter ones , (It is true that turtleing with a hunter was impossible if you fall behind your lose but... it was a strong comp nonetheless)
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those warriors didn't know reflect back in the day lel
they didnt even harmstring the hunter... Look at 16:32. Warrior is stuck in roots, cherez runs to wingclip the guy, the warrior keeps tunneling the pet, doesnt even slow the hunter. Literally lets both the hunter and druid do whatever they want.
Dude its been over 15 years since that video 😂 you cant compare it to now.
r u cherez?
I'd rather face mage/rogue all day than this tilting cancer comp
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Carried by Viper sting/illidan bow Mana drain.
So you basically need the Illidan Bow for it to work?
Shadowmeld in combat, vipersting, feral charge stun 🥲
Hunter pve gear with some IQ (130) with a random druid of 90 IQ.