Never ceases to amaze me just how thick some folk are. I guess a few beers makes them feel invincible & untouchable. Good filming & great bit of driving by the foot plate guys. Thankyou.
Great piece of driving... clearly a very slippery rail, but never lost more than a revolution before getting grip again... very difficult to do with a loco of that power!!!!
Good footage. Shame about the circumstances. Morons who go on the line or ignore platform limits frustrate me as they give all of us a bad name! I hope someone got a solid close up and shopped him in to BTP.
We used to have this all the time - people who really should've known better trying to get around the front of loco's on tours. Normally we'd counter the situation by contacting the stopping points and ask the station staff to barrier the platform if they could, then bring the loco to a halt beyond that point. Simple enough to request and operate
That was a great shot catching the duchess of Sutherland grind to a halt, I would imagine they had a little water supply that stations looks like it’s on a steep hill.
Yes unfortunatley a lineside fatality with the preceeding train. There is a slight gradient out of the staion to clear a road where she struggled with traction
Someone mentioned it was the southbound that preceeded the Duchess, this was 158827 on the 0830 Manchester Milfors Haven and according to real time trains lost 138 mins between Ludlow & Wooferton
@@thehogfat Just looked, yes it did. I guess it was stationary somewhere south of Ludlow while they investigated. Might also explain why the 175 took 26 minutes from Wooferton to Bromfield instead of the expected 8.
Great footage ! And hearing the blackbird giving their vote of approval . Hopefully the engineer extracted himself from under the train ! Did l hear the guardsman saying someone had already been killed whilst telling those trespassers to move off the line. Down here in the South West l'm pretty certain it's a thousand pound fine! Thanks
@Richard Harrold No he came from the train. There was a fatality that required attention for a couple of hours, duiring whic the crew did a bit of routine servicing.
Absolutely shocked at peoples recklessness. As a PTS certified train conductor and rail enthusiast, I still get amazed at how the general public's brains seem to turn to blancmange around active running lines.
I’ve seen idiots like that many a time trespassing on the railway to get a photo. They should be held and prosecuted by the transport police end of. Nicely filmed and also very skilful driving. 👍
Thatidiot in the four foot HAS TO BE prosecuted and fined the full £1000 penalty for trespassing on a live railway line. If he is not identified and dealt with BTP are not doing their job.
I'm sorry but the people who went on the actual track, especially the stupid individual who was in the 4-foot, yeah they definitely had something wrong with them...
I think they should just start doing non stop runs unless they have fill up on coal or water, then again i shouldn't be blaming the victim, should've put barriers up
I just can not think for the life of me, why people think it's ok for them to go and stand on the rail line to take a photograph, it's madness, I'm a keen steam locomotive photographer and never thought it would be better by standing on the track, it's idiotic people how will who will put an end to steam. It would have been a great photo by standing on the opposite platform ,I think what should happen is have the phone and video camera taken off them .
I like a bit of steam as much as the next person but as a railway worker who has seen the aftermath of fatalities, the actions of these people will sadly relegate steam to heritage railways only ...... and they'll only have themselves to blame.
Yep. It's not a pretty way to die & even worse sometimes when they survive. My uncle was a signalman before everything was retired in favour of a control room miles away. The incident that has stayed with him most is when a terminal ill man with a brain tumor tried to end his life. He failed, but the resulting serious injuries this man suffered left him in an even worse situation. Half his face gone, smashed hip & a mangled hand attached to an arm pointing the wrong way, my uncle's heart just broke for the poor guy. It's impossible to even imagine his suffering before he threw himself on the tracks. God only knows how he felt after. When it came to trespassers on the lines, nothing would make my uncle more livid than those selfish idiots. He hated them. The number of times he had to stop all trains into the city for their safety, and when confronted, most of these idiots couldn't care less. Not even when told how some drivers had to give up the job because of the trauma they suffered. There would even be the occasional repeat offenders who literally couldn't give a s**t if they tried. It didn't matter how many times BTP arrested them, they would return. And nothing p****d my uncle off more than trainspotters during a heritage run. He often found these people to be the most rude & aggressive out of all trespassers. In their eyes, my uncle was the one spoiling everything by refusing to allow any trains to run. Nothing to do with them endangering themselves & others. As my uncle still fumes, he couldn't care less if these morons get themselves killed, but it's everyone else - directly or indirectly - who has to deal with the consequences.
The bloke in the four foot was clearly old enough to know better. You can see he stumbles slightly as he returns to the platform. If he'd fallen over and cracked his head on the rail it would have been curtains for the tour, he'd have been injured and a lot of people would have been very angry. All because of one selfish individual desperate for a photo. The people on the other side are telling them all to get off the line. People are idiots sometimes.
Not being funny but if the HSA see them going under a steam engine on a working branch line with no lookout and another applying oil again with no active look out someone’s getting their arse kicked
I read of the incident on another channel. While unfortunate, it gave many an opportunity they would not otherwise have had. And a great video too, thanks
Thanks Graham, in the right spot in unfortunate circumstances, think she was held for nearly two hours. Re your previous comment, the trackside invaders all came off the train, the one in the tracks obviously rather tipsy on festive cheer. Best wishes, Martin
I'm afraid steam on the mainline is on its way out with behaviour like this. It is getting worse, not better and it doesn't matter how many behave, standing in the centre of an active running line is utter insanity!
Whys should these wonderful old engines be stopped from using main lines due to these morons all you need is a barrier to stop them putting themselves in danger. I am sick to death of a few stopping the fun for all.
@@annbeirne9583 well, foot crossings mean there's always permitted access with implied sensible behaviour to cross a railway. Sadly all laws and legislation is usually geared around the stupidest or most reckless and everyone else has to be treated the same way.
Very deft driving. Not much wheel slip which is good as it bu@@ers the tires and in turn results in machining to correct. Once saw an idiot of a driver on North Yorkshire moors railway excessively slipping " sir nigel Gresley " bloody showing off .if I had been the cheif CME he wouldn't drive an engine again!!! Plus I'd have given him a dressing off.shame about the idiot on permanent way trespassing. Some folks never learn !!! Lovely video production 👌
I don't know, maybe them trying to claim would give them enough rope to hang themselves so to speak...proof of trespass, a voided claim and £1000 fine.
Interesting and ridiculous , perhaps the BTP need a patrol on these non flying Scotsman tours now also as they started I believe on the flying Scotsman since the chaos of the much reported 2019 tour that my brother working on Oxford platforms received in 3hrs late , then duly cancelled before the final destination , but maybe add an old GUV van painted in similar police class 47 livery on the back as a prison coach lol !😂 But Serious question now if the death further down the line happened in the video maybe from suicide , but had that poor person been hit by a steam service unknowingly (as no one cares what train in that particular sad mindset of death ) would mainline steam also be punished / more risk to bans instead just like it was a fully avoidable incident like in this video or similar ? I presume it wouldn't be any more than culpable to banning or punishment like a diesel modern service but it would deffo send bad optics PR about steam tours almost as bad as steam train crashing in service ?
Great video however I can’t believe the stupidity of the trespassers who climbed down on to the tracks let’s hope the British Transport Police were made aware of the trespassing and the idiots involved fined for the trespassing
Even though he was an official and it was his job, the engineer squeezing himself under the engine was far, far more risky than the guy taking a photo in front of her, when it was obvious in both cases that she was not going anywhere. I bet it was a great shot and I'd have done exactly the same. The guy on the opposite platform in the fawn coat was who I laughed at when he was unsuccessfully waving the guy to move.
Same story again, usual none enthusiasts there so they can get a video photo to say how they saw such n such a loco only never to watch it again once they’ve bragged down the bowls club/pub/shops etc... that’s after they’ve told everyone their dad drove flying Scotsman or the train in question, great video spoiled by knobs
I loved the video but OMG....all you nagging Nancy's about the people taking a few pics in from the of loco. If that's all you have to get outraged about in life, you're the luckiest people on Earth.
Thats a very dangerous place to stand. Supposing there was a problem with CA 23 signal and they were authorised to pass it at danger Cylinder cocks opened scalded by steam and unseen by the driver they get run over. Never risk going on the track.
Never ceases to amaze me just how thick some folk are. I guess a few beers makes them feel invincible & untouchable.
Good filming & great bit of driving by the foot plate guys. Thankyou.
Excellent footage!
Great shots of 6233 but it's unbelievable to see those people on the track it would teach them a lesson if they all got find all the best 😊👍👍👍👍👌 Rory
Yes, the one on the line looked very unstable on his legs
he should have had the cylinder cocks opened on him. Like standing in front of an artic and having the driver suddenly rev up.
@@johnjephcote7636 now that would have been funny specialty as he was so unsteady on his feet all the best 😊👍👍 Rory
Great piece of driving... clearly a very slippery rail, but never lost more than a revolution before getting grip again... very difficult to do with a loco of that power!!!!
Good footage. Shame about the circumstances. Morons who go on the line or ignore platform limits frustrate me as they give all of us a bad name! I hope someone got a solid close up and shopped him in to BTP.
Yeah and you can see the staff telling them to get off after telling them about someone who is being killed already at Hereford
@@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 yup
@@AnthonyFurnival yeah
Great video. What a beautiful loco. But just how do you protect people from themselves?
We used to have this all the time - people who really should've known better trying to get around the front of loco's on tours. Normally we'd counter the situation by contacting the stopping points and ask the station staff to barrier the platform if they could, then bring the loco to a halt beyond that point. Simple enough to request and operate
That was a great shot catching the duchess of Sutherland grind to a halt, I would imagine they had a little water supply that stations looks like it’s on a steep hill.
After an hour they ran a pipe out to a fire hydrant o the station forecourt
Had one in oo gauge back in the late 70s early 80s beautiful to see this locomotive for real even on TH-cam??..might get back into the hobby!!
The general public never cease to amaze me.
Did someone leave the brakes on the 47 ?
Great footage, thanks for sharing
train going away at the end is so scenic really nice pictures at the end idk why youtube recommended me this LOL but it was cool
Some people really just don't care, think they can do what they want and get away with it, without consequences for themselves or others.
What was the trouble with loco ? Was there a problem closing the drain cocks? Very cautious progress.
Loco was fine, there had been a fatality up the line with the preceding train. There is a short climb out of the station where she struggled
What was the reason for the delay. It sounded very feeble trying to pull away - yet it was blowing-off. Any actual info'....?
Yes unfortunatley a lineside fatality with the preceeding train.
There is a slight gradient out of the staion to clear a road where she struggled with traction
Feeble???..... Are you real?.... It was done with class n skill
Great video mate. Shame about that tool getting in the 4 foot.
Really good work with the camera!
What's that noise just after they grease the bearings
Someone mentioned it’s the brake system getting pressurised
@@thehogfat oh I see just that I've heard the union of South Africa doing the same thing
Good Filming, its a shame some people think its ok to go on a live railway line just to get a picture of it
That's why the queens body was never brought down from Scotland on the train
Very enjoyable video. Pity about the idiots on the line. If this keeps up, then I fear the days of steam specials are numbered.
Unbelievable all it’s takes is one fool to ruin it for everyone else then the end of main line steam as a ex driver can’t believe what I’ve just seen
So frustrating to see people actually on the track. This video (and many others) prove you don't have to be a fool to get a decent shot!
I was surprised that the 47 on the back wasn’t called on to give the Duchess a shove , why thrash the old girl for no reason .
Would have thought so especially as it was over 2 hours down
because thats what people pay for, steam traction. not some crappy 47
@@andrewyoung749 nowt wrong with a 47 mi duck
@@andrewyoung749 try saying that on a steam ban like in the early 2000s the locos could only whistle and sit in front not actually pull trains
Was the 175 involved in the incident as it was the last train north through Bromfield at 10.39am before they stopped?
Someone mentioned it was the southbound that preceeded the Duchess, this was 158827 on the 0830 Manchester Milfors Haven and according to real time trains lost 138 mins between Ludlow & Wooferton
@@thehogfat Just looked, yes it did. I guess it was stationary somewhere south of Ludlow while they investigated. Might also explain why the 175 took 26 minutes from Wooferton to Bromfield instead of the expected 8.
2:30 that safety valve is going bonkers
Great footage ! And hearing the blackbird giving their vote of approval . Hopefully the engineer extracted himself from under the train ! Did l hear the guardsman saying someone had already been killed whilst telling those trespassers to move off the line. Down here in the South West l'm pretty certain it's a thousand pound fine! Thanks
Yes a fatality with the preceding train
@Richard Harrold No he came from the train. There was a fatality that required attention for a couple of hours, duiring whic the crew did a bit of routine servicing.
Absolutely shocked at peoples recklessness. As a PTS certified train conductor and rail enthusiast, I still get amazed at how the general public's brains seem to turn to blancmange around active running lines.
They are probably Brexiteers!
Should show this video to the railway old bill.
I hope that guy who stood in the four foot realises he is invisible to the footplate crew where he's standing.
The Craven Arms pondlife out in force, should’ve bloody flattened em!
People like these will get steam on the mainline banned one day.
I’ve seen idiots like that many a time trespassing on the railway to get a photo. They should be held and prosecuted by the transport police end of. Nicely filmed and also very skilful driving. 👍
Thatidiot in the four foot HAS TO BE prosecuted and fined the full £1000 penalty for trespassing on a live railway line.
If he is not identified and dealt with BTP are not doing their job.
I'm sorry but the people who went on the actual track, especially the stupid individual who was in the 4-foot, yeah they definitely had something wrong with them...
unbelievable, just because there is not a barrier they wander dow the line, and to go on the track, utter stupidity
Have all the people moaning about the bloke standing in the track not seen photos of railtours from the 1960s?
or modern Germany. Britain has totally lost the plot. utterly fearful of everything, everything is beyond dangerous etc etc.
Enough has been by others about the rats on the tracks, but what a great film, loved the going away shot.
I think they should just start doing non stop runs unless they have fill up on coal or water, then again i shouldn't be blaming the victim, should've put barriers up
I just can not think for the life of me, why people think it's ok for them to go and stand on the rail line to take a photograph, it's madness, I'm a keen steam locomotive photographer and never thought it would be better by standing on the track, it's idiotic people how will who will put an end to steam. It would have been a great photo by standing on the opposite platform ,I think what should happen is have the phone and video camera taken off them .
Superb. Thanks.
Great video
I like a bit of steam as much as the next person but as a railway worker who has seen the aftermath of fatalities, the actions of these people will sadly relegate steam to heritage railways only ...... and they'll only have themselves to blame.
Yep. It's not a pretty way to die & even worse sometimes when they survive. My uncle was a signalman before everything was retired in favour of a control room miles away. The incident that has stayed with him most is when a terminal ill man with a brain tumor tried to end his life. He failed, but the resulting serious injuries this man suffered left him in an even worse situation. Half his face gone, smashed hip & a mangled hand attached to an arm pointing the wrong way, my uncle's heart just broke for the poor guy. It's impossible to even imagine his suffering before he threw himself on the tracks. God only knows how he felt after. When it came to trespassers on the lines, nothing would make my uncle more livid than those selfish idiots. He hated them. The number of times he had to stop all trains into the city for their safety, and when confronted, most of these idiots couldn't care less. Not even when told how some drivers had to give up the job because of the trauma they suffered. There would even be the occasional repeat offenders who literally couldn't give a s**t if they tried. It didn't matter how many times BTP arrested them, they would return. And nothing p****d my uncle off more than trainspotters during a heritage run. He often found these people to be the most rude & aggressive out of all trespassers. In their eyes, my uncle was the one spoiling everything by refusing to allow any trains to run. Nothing to do with them endangering themselves & others. As my uncle still fumes, he couldn't care less if these morons get themselves killed, but it's everyone else - directly or indirectly - who has to deal with the consequences.
Nice to see the Kettle Veg as normal just walk all over the track and get yelled at.
Not very acceptable "Pusher" operations!!!
The bloke in the four foot was clearly old enough to know better. You can see he stumbles slightly as he returns to the platform. If he'd fallen over and cracked his head on the rail it would have been curtains for the tour, he'd have been injured and a lot of people would have been very angry. All because of one selfish individual desperate for a photo. The people on the other side are telling them all to get off the line.
People are idiots sometimes.
It was an Xmas special and he was well tipsy, to much mulled wine and mince pies 😀
Not being funny but if the HSA see them going under a steam engine on a working branch line with no lookout and another applying oil again with no active look out someone’s getting their arse kicked
I hope this was reported to the police. Unbelievable
Also Stupid were the people that wanted to be on the track side of the yellow line. Just imagine if a freight train went through
👍 great film 👍😊
I read of the incident on another channel. While unfortunate, it gave many an opportunity they would not otherwise have had. And a great video too, thanks
To the person who. Shoot this video, nice work
Thanks Graham, in the right spot in unfortunate circumstances, think she was held for nearly two hours.
Re your previous comment, the trackside invaders all came off the train, the one in the tracks obviously rather tipsy on festive cheer.
Best wishes, Martin
Great loco , shame about the trespassing.
I'm afraid steam on the mainline is on its way out with behaviour like this. It is getting worse, not better and it doesn't matter how many behave, standing in the centre of an active running line is utter insanity!
Whys should these wonderful old engines be stopped from using main lines due to these morons all you need is a barrier to stop them putting themselves in danger. I am sick to death of a few stopping the fun for all.
@@annbeirne9583 well, foot crossings mean there's always permitted access with implied sensible behaviour to cross a railway. Sadly all laws and legislation is usually geared around the stupidest or most reckless and everyone else has to be treated the same way.
Very deft driving. Not much wheel slip which is good as it bu@@ers the tires and in turn results in machining to correct. Once saw an idiot of a driver on North Yorkshire moors railway excessively slipping " sir nigel Gresley " bloody showing off .if I had been the cheif CME he wouldn't drive an engine again!!! Plus I'd have given him a dressing off.shame about the idiot on permanent way trespassing. Some folks never learn !!! Lovely video production 👌
Idiots!!! As a driver this absolutely infuriates me🤬🤬🤬
It's ok until someone has an accident (like slipping on the track)....then an insurance claim goes in against the train company!..
I don't know, maybe them trying to claim would give them enough rope to hang themselves so to speak...proof of trespass, a voided claim and £1000 fine.
Interesting and ridiculous , perhaps the BTP need a patrol on these non flying Scotsman tours now also as they started I believe on the flying Scotsman since the chaos of the much reported 2019 tour that my brother working on Oxford platforms received in 3hrs late , then duly cancelled before the final destination , but maybe add an old GUV van painted in similar police class 47 livery on the back as a prison coach lol !😂
But Serious question now if the death further down the line happened in the video maybe from suicide , but had that poor person been hit by a steam service unknowingly (as no one cares what train in that particular sad mindset of death ) would mainline steam also be punished / more risk to bans instead just like it was a fully avoidable incident like in this video or similar ?
I presume it wouldn't be any more than culpable to banning or punishment like a diesel modern service but it would deffo send bad optics PR about steam tours almost as bad as steam train crashing in service ?
Think most of the trespassers came off the train Tim, the crew were quick to get them back on the platform once they realised what was happening
Great video however I can’t believe the stupidity of the trespassers who climbed down on to the tracks let’s hope the British Transport Police were made aware of the trespassing and the idiots involved fined for the trespassing
Great video there are always some dickheads out there who will end up getting steam banned.
Some people are total morons just so they can see the front of a train.
If you wanted to do that should’ve gone to the other platform
0-60 in 2 days!.
Even though he was an official and it was his job, the engineer squeezing himself under the engine was far, far more risky than the guy taking a photo in front of her, when it was obvious in both cases that she was not going anywhere. I bet it was a great shot and I'd have done exactly the same. The guy on the opposite platform in the fawn coat was who I laughed at when he was unsuccessfully waving the guy to move.
We done Sy for telling them to get of the track !! WHAT is wrong with people ???? OMG Thick as Dog muck ......... Sorry but just Gobsmacked .......
Same story again, usual none enthusiasts there so they can get a video photo to say how they saw such n such a loco only never to watch it again once they’ve bragged down the bowls club/pub/shops etc... that’s after they’ve told everyone their dad drove flying Scotsman or the train in question, great video spoiled by knobs
I loved the video but OMG....all you nagging Nancy's about the people taking a few pics in from the of loco. If that's all you have to get outraged about in life, you're the luckiest people on Earth.
Thats a very dangerous place to stand. Supposing there was a problem with CA 23 signal and they were authorised to pass it at danger Cylinder cocks opened scalded by steam and unseen by the driver they get run over. Never risk going on the track.