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- Discover the truth behind Red Bull Racing's driver predicament in our latest video! 🏎️🤔 We delve into the fascinating dynamics within the team, shifting the blame away from Daniel Ricciardo and onto Carlos Sainz's unexpected departure. Find out why Liam Lawson's 2025 seat isn't guaranteed and how Red Bull's once-renowned junior driver program has transformed over the years, becoming cutthroat and unpredictable. Explore hypothetical scenarios that could have reshaped the team's lineup, and join us for a deep dive into the complex world of Formula 1 politics. Don't miss this intriguing analysis of one of the sport's most controversial topics!
In the world of Formula 1, Red Bull Racing, led by their dynamic duo of Max Verstappen and Sergio Perez, is dominating the headlines with their relentless pursuit of victory. F1 fans are abuzz with the latest F1 news and updates, dissecting every twist and turn of this exhilarating season. Meanwhile, Daniel Ricciardo and Carlos Sainz Vettel find themselves in intriguing positions, challenging the status quo being the only two RBR drivers to have not lost their seat by others. Christian Horner's strategic masterstrokes and the Red Bull Driver Academy's talent pipeline have kept the team at the forefront of the competition. With the recent Red Bull driver swap involving Alex Albon and Pierre Gasly, and the ongoing quest for new talent through the Red Bull Driver Search, the what-if scenarios in Formula One seem limitless. Liam Lawson's emergence as a rising star adds another layer of excitement to the mix. Whether you're a big fan or a casual observer, the 2023 F1 season is a rollercoaster of "what if" moments that redefine the law of speed in motorsport.
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If only Michael Schumacher stayed in F1: th-cam.com/video/OguwadtuK5c/w-d-xo.html
I really want to hear your opinion on what if Michael was around in Mick's f1 carrer. It would be really fun to see what the outcome would be.
Sainz’s ability to make the right(ish) team move at the right(ish) time has been consistently impressive to me - if Ferrari stays locked into Leclerc’s future, and Max leaves F1 early, I could see him filling that void when the time comes
Oh it's worked out for him in real life and now he's seen as a very smart and capable driver. This other scenario is potentially another fascinating resolution.
The No-lonso of F1.
@@LawVS "seen as"? mate he is smart and capable
I'm thinking his dad probably has something to do with that. Having someone you can trust who is intimately familiar with the politics of racing manage your racing politics for you is such a huge advantage
You know what? I just realised something. You are a perfect person to fit in a "will buxton" type role or even better. I wouldn't be surprised to see you inside F1's media in the future. Your story telling is TOP GEAR level. GGs
Thank you so much! I'm OK with being in my loft for now though. :)
@@LawVS keep it up love your vids
I second this statement! Love these videos from his attic.😅
@@ImShakedYou could say loft your vid
@@LawVSAgreed, you do have a future as a media host/pundit. Keep those aspirations lofty!
Carlos is the most underrated driver on the grid. Everyone sings Charles praises and say Ferrari is the problem not him. But Charles has a crush on every barrier he sees while Carlos has been far better. True he hasn’t reached the heights of Charles he is consistent, doesn’t crash, and is close enough to Charles that he can beat him.
True facts.
He is not underrated, he is fairly rated.
You easily seem to forget that he literally couldn't drive the Ferrari when it had a oversteer rear end and also had his fair share of crash and stupid incidents.
I have no doubt that if Ferrari is competitive next year, he will get blown away by Charles once again!
@@quentinhirschfeld9382 my point is Charles isn’t a God and Carlos in his current form minus Japan won’t get stomped on by Charles.
The RB academy definitely has a bizarre duality to it. On the one hand it's an absolute mess with driver mismanagement all over the place. On the other hand, their academy output is a lot better than that of the other F1 teams. The path for junior drivers to get into F1 may need another look.
It's got some really good candidates and a very good pedigree; but right now it's gotten too bloated and focused on JUST F1. If they used Super Formula more, that might be a more compelling yardstick for F1 alongside the new F2 cars.
Almost half of the grid have Red Bull roots. Mateshitz was a sport lover and he invested massive in the sports. God bless him 🙏.
Yep. At a time it was excellent. Now it's chaotically ungainly.
Max Verstappen and Carlos Sainz, had they both been promoted to RB from Toro Rosso, would’ve been the most balanced driver pairing on the grid. Max would still dominate but Sainz would definitely have put him under pressure. It would almost be like Hamilton and Rosberg at Mercedes.
Yes. Max and he know how each operate, at least at the beginning. Carlos would be able to shine in the early 2019 season and assert a decent input in the car. But yes, Max would still lead.
The other thing to consider is. What does Red Bull have that no other team has directly on the grid?. Answer... 2 teams, 4 cars and 4 driver spots under their control. While they are not directly running both teams. As far as the shot callers for who goes where and when it's the same people that make the calls, Give seats to drivers. Also while their are deals done with customer teams. It's not the same as what Red Bull can do. Maybe if Red Bull didn't have that luxury they wouldn't treat drivers like they do. They would have to be like all the other teams.
Of course. It's great influence but they really should use those 2 junior seats to give new drivers a chance and help keep the younger drivers rolling...instead of keeping old rookies in limbo and hiring an old hand for marketing purposes.
It’s so funny to think now that in 2018 when he was on loan (like a footballer lol) at Renault no one gave a flying f about him and were kinda just waiting for him to bow out of f1.
Now he is The Carlos Sainz, son of his father, GP winner, international superstar, 1/2 of Ferrari’s handsome looks and everyones favourite human on this planet.
Even in 2019 he was kinda ignored. I'm glad he's being recognised as a genuinely viable team leader of FERRARI. Sure, Charles is a better talent but he is not showing leadership consistently.
Yeah, he has had an amazing turnaround and if Ferrari have done something right over past few years appointing him as driver has not only been a great move for Carlos but for the team as well
This is an intriquing thought, but I am missing one thing. Would Ricciardo have moved out of RedBull if Sainz didn't move out of ToroRosso? Impossible to answer, I know, but I can't help wonder if maybe Sainz leaving the RB family, opened eyes for Ricciardo that he could do so as well.
Maybe? It's a fair point. But perhaps Daniel wanted a change of pace...helped Renault paid him a ton too.
Since this channel seems to delve into the realm of what ifs, How about mapping out if:
-the Kvyat/Max switch would not have occurred in 2016 each finishing out that season at RedBull/Toro Rosso respectively
-Max's personal team pushes him to leave RedBull (as they said they would if nothing happened soon)
-Rosberg still wins the Championship and retires, leaving that Mercedes seat open.
-Max takes that seat and partners with Lewis.
Id say that Sainz for Honda engines trade was one of the best trades in sports history. Honda's on like win 49 since partnering with Red Bull and Sainz has 2 tablescrap wins! Renault has 1 win in that time I believe?
Indeed. It was a complex deal but it was well worth it for everyone...except Renault. They instantly ditched Carlos for Daniel.
I couldn’t agree more
but Daniel got that one win for Renault!
@@LawVS Renault I mean Alpine is an embarassment! They Identify as a factory team but perform like an independant!
@@LawVSCarlos ditched Renault for McLaren.
Horner is madly in love with the man who openly stabbed him in the back. The dude who got his ass kicked by, first Kvyat, then by Verstappen. Moved to Renault and McLaren where he did his utmost to hide any skills or talent. Now RB takes him back like a lost son... Weird... Sainz would never have gotten a RB ride...
They see $$ and positive press. Poor Daniel, he's more than just a billboard.
@@LawVS I still don't get the hype around him. Sainz is as good as Verstappen. He only tried a little harder to keep his cars in one piece.Lets be honest. How many drivers do you know that wrecked two cars in free practice and gt away with it? But back to DannyRic. There was a good reason he was without a job at the end of last season....
@@albertusdrostable
Saying that sainz is as good as verstappen is one of the most absurd things to say!
Carlos doesn't has half the talent of Max (or even Charles) in weight management transfer, neither the inner ability to shorten a corner!
I also have never seen Sainz being remarkably quick in raining conditions, where his undeniably good car-control should've showed!
You also easily seem to forget the amount of crashes Carlos had.
@@quentinhirschfeld9382you're just ignorant. Sainz is quick in rain and great in changing conditions I'd say even better than charles. Few races in this season alone are the examples of that
Agree as long as helmut is at the helm Carlos Sainz would never get a RB ride
Smooth operator and Mad Max on the same major team... That's a timeline I want to live in, not this one
Definitely would be able to hold his own better than most.
Another well thought out analysis of what might have happened if Carlos didn’t go to Renault 👊🙂 I’m also liking when you do your customary “UH HUM” when it comes to reading closed quotes 😁👍🏁
Carlos & Co. have managed to navigate the waters quite well. Being a fan of Carlos, I support what’s been done and what’s to come.
Though Red Bull have many strengths, I feel there are plenty of roadblocks to those not named ‘Max.’
I doubt any former team (Renault?) would hesitate to have him back if he became available again.
Yes, I am happy for Carlos and him taking charge of his own destiny which has seen him convince some at Ferrari that perhaps he's pretty good too.
@@LawVS Carlos is fearless, yet measured - a rare combination.
This is an oddly out of left field but incredibly well put together take/opinion. Good video!
Carlos is a classic Team Leader character. If he wouldn't have moded to Renault and then to MacLaren, his skills as a team leader wouldn't have shown especially if he played second fiddle to Max.
Carlos might not have the outright speed and racing Genius of Max, but has a very intelligent and cool head on his shoulders that can not just focus on his own driving but the entire team's performance and build a good team. Its a quality that is seen in very few like Schumacher and Hamilton and a few others. That's something I would say Max lacks. Head leadership comes from his sheer dominace and the complete Support that is given by Hemlut Marko.
Of course, he would've add some good times and wins but we wouldn't have realised the team leader quality of him unless Max DNF'd which is almost never.
@@LawVS damn what did sainz do to you
I completely forgot forget that Sainz was driving for Renault back then 🤣
Yeah he was kinda not doing much to set the world alight...even though he DID help the team to P4 that year.
You leave Carlos alone, Lawrence. He’s innocent! But really the first domino to fall in this saga was #55
I'm glad Carlos took charge of his own destiny.
Btw beying in ferrari is the top dog for a f1 driver as well cheers to carlos
The difference between them in that year was because of the multiple dnfs for faulires in sainz's car, if not the would be almost tied, it's also true that Max had 17 yo.
Fact is it happened. Carlos carried the team failures and all.
Verstappen also had 5 dnf (4 officially but one dnf he still clasified with 90% rule) and Carlos had 7 dnf...
he certainly wouldn't have tied if both had 5.. like if you add 2 average torro rosso finishes it's a couple measly points added.
Tbf, sainz did qualify well vs max (about even as i recall)..but max was really inexperienced in race cars in general...
If Carlos stayed at RBR for 2021, Checo might’ve signed with RBR as a reserve driver. Gasly probably would’ve still gone to Alpine with the new regs and then Checo comes in for either Gasly or Albono gets promoted to the RBR seat and Checo takes the Alpha Tauri seat vacated. Yuki learns from Checo then possibly Checo retires or signs somewhere else. Liam gets the call for this year. That’s my own opinion on what could’ve happened if Sainz leaves for Ferrari in 22
Maybe, fair point. Might have been Checo's chance to at least STAY in F1 in some way.
I'd think that checo would have gotten another place
@@ameyaprakash realistically, Checo wouldn’t have if this scenario plays out. The only real spot that was open was Alfa Romeo or the second Williams seat, but Checo doesn’t bring in the sponsorship money that Goatifi and Zhou bring in. BWT was his main sponsor and then they left to go to Alpine.
6:39 Gasly in this shot looks Fawked like french mafia
If Sainz had stayed at Red Bull, I'm not sure we would have seen Albon on the grid. From memory, Albon was dropped by the Red Bull junior program and had signed a deal with a Formula E team before he had the call up to F1.
It would have been sad to miss him but if he was not really needed due to Sainz and Ricciardo leaving at the moment they did, I don't think we would have seen Albon in F1.
I think Albon would've made it in 2019 since he was third in the F2 2018 season, but he would've been at Alphatauri partnering with Yuki.
@@LawVS He might have been third, but he was not under Red Bull management since a few years. I tried to find motorsport article of the time but looks like they removed it. Anyway, here is from Wikipedia (I know, no one reads that):
On 26 November 2018, it was announced that Albon had been released from his Nissan e.dams Formula E contract after rumours he was to sign for Scuderia Toro Rosso in Formula One. On the same day, Toro Rosso announced Albon would join the team for 2019 alongside Daniil Kvyat and thus Albon's relationship with Red Bull, which had ended seven years prior, was restored.
So I guess Red Bull would have kept Brendon Hartley at that point or have promoted someone else, although I'm not sure who.
Anyway, hard to say at that point but as in this timeline Albon was not in Red Bull academy anymore, there is no reason to think he would still be in the new timeline.
You do very good at linking one video to another keeping me watching for hours , well played my friend
The mess at RBR actually being short sighted and ruthless started earlier with Ricciardo, then Buemi, Vergne etc. And off course Verstappen getting pulled in last moment to claim him really threw the whole program out of the window too.
Oh yes, Max was a very early precursor but Carlos and Daniel truly set it alight.
Carlos will be a world champion one day
That or a VERY highly regarded driver with incredible intelligence and respect like Alesi or Hakkinen.
@@LawVS
Sainz compared with Hakkinen is a disgrace!
Mika is one of the greatest drivers of the last 25 years, incredibly soft inputs and was even successful in other categories.
Carlos hasn't half of his talent!
Redbull has an academy in which they no longer have trust in.
That really can't be good on the long run. Right now they have some good prospects, but I suspect they'll start going to either other categories or other academies as Redbull no longer guarantees actually giving you a shot even if you did everything right.
Indeed. It seems too cumbersome right now. Too many F2 drivers. Maybe they might send some to Super Formula more, now that it's proven to be quite a compelling training ground without too much competition and a very fast car.
How many of the other academy drivers get a F1 seat? Piastri from AlpineAcademy…now seat at McLaren and Logan….. . None of the other academy drivers have gotten a seat…. Most chance to drive in F2 and F1 is still RB….
Im wondering if the RED BULL issues is there due to the HONDA group, if it is ASTON could have them problems after they start using their engines in 2026.
Maybe. We shall see in 2025.
This is the kind of insightful content F1 needs to put on their channel. Not Jolyon Palmer stating the obvious ways Checo messed up during the race....
9:25 I really doubt that both Alex and Pierre would have waited for THAT long at alphatauri. But I still agree with you 99%
Depends whether or not another party came along. That's a variable.
Idk why but every time I watch your videos I always think about that one meme about you running to the ladder every time some news comes out 😂
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍..
6:56 nope, nah uh, for that pun turn in your TH-cam keys, you’re done
Oh well, I should've seen the SAINZ in front of me.
@@LawVS good lord lol
Long run, I think his career trajectory has worked better for Sainz. Max’s raw talent and hyper-aggressiveness were exactly what Red Bull wanted, and they were content to let him develop that and nurture his talent, even if his hotheadedness led to costly mistakes. They have not shown the same willingness to develop any of the drivers in that second seat - it is very much a sink or swim position. Sainz has been able to develop at his own pace, and continues to improve, and has been able to shine, in a way he would never have had the chance to at Red Bull
I think carlos’s career path has perfectly moulded him into the class driver he is today, so if he does end up back at red bull, it was worth the wait and he would fair much better against max now than if he had joined some years back
That thumbnail is legend
They should just boot Ricciardo out and get new talent. Ricciardo’s career basically is him being a journeyman and seeking popularity.
They won't. He's too profitable and a gem for positive press.
Never a fan of speculative videos like this BUT if we're talking about Sainz, I'm in.
Redbulls driver program is the worst it just keeps losing its own talent to other teams. Like Alpine but worse and less of a public display. Liam Lawson like Sainz shouldn't be resting its hopes on Redbull for 2025.
For all of Markos speculation it's a Ferrari Academy driver in Redbull in the other seat for this year and next. You have a whole other F1 team and neither driver was ready to partner Verstapen in 2021?
Praying Sergio gets it together though. So proud of him and his career thus far.
Yeah. Checo got a massive reprieve and at least got some wins and podiums to add to his tally.
News Brief: When Daniel announced he was leaving Red Bull in 2018, he was ahead and beating Max in the drivers championship.
Only after he announced he would join Renault would the team go full throttle on prioritizing Max to get the full #1 treatment, that's not to say he wasn't already, which is why Daniel saw it and wanted to leave.
Makes you wonder what might have happened if he had stayed. Would Max have had total control? Probably, he could sense it was going that way.
@@LawVS that was the case... Why else did he leave?
Furthermore, is he coming back to reclaim his seat knowing he would be a defacto #2 since Max is on top of his game and in his prime whilst Daniel is not?
I only wonder what they know that we don't.
I think there is more to this issue. It's not just at Red Bull, all the academies are going to have to dump drivers who are anything less than spectacular because there just aren't enough seats. How many Red Bull drivers are in F2 this year? If Lawson is the best chance at a drive for 2025 and if he is given a couple of years to develop that shuts the door on all the others. They will have to go find drives in other categories. If they impress in those other categories maybe they will be considered for a seat in F1 a few years from now. Which in turn closes the door for some other driver who might just have won F2.
I'm not saying this is a problem that needs to be solved. This is just how it is. Merely being good is not enough to get you a seat.
Of course. If Liam is going to need 2024 to get ready for F1, what does that say for the other F2 hopefuls?
Mercedes to me has the best young driver program because Toto makes sure his drivers find a place on the grid
Ocon, Vandoorne, De Vires, and eventually Schumacher will get a seat
@@Lewythefly really, he had 1 actually season in F1 because I’m 2021 he was racing no one except his teammate so 2022 was basically his rookie season, he showed genuine talent, made some mistakes, but ur overreacting. And Toto is a pimp but not Helmut? Do you know how many drivers Red Bull has chewed up and spit out unfairly
I get what you mean but sometimes those don't work out after a season or two.
@@LawVS true but unlike Red Bull, they don’t get absolutely screwed
At the beginning Verstappen made a lot of rookie mistakes. They let him have the time to get that out of him and improve. They don't let other drivers that time. Also I have a feeling it is a toxic environment with Marko there.
Yep, exactly. But having said that, getting a win first time out for the senior team...that is enough to keep you there.
Congratz on 15k fella!!!
Cheers, pal!
I like Daniel but he has so many chances. i like Liam I think he would make a great teammate for Max. Or Lando but I don't think Lando will leave Maclaren.
Daniel needed to have stuck it out with Red Bull. He's had so many pitfalls since leaving.
I started watching theses videos and they are so good! I get so excited when they come!
In my honest opinion, one thing I’ve seen that I’ve questioned if was part of the Red Bull problem currently is their partnership with Honda as much as I’ve seen improvements from Yuki I genuinely do not ever see him in the Red Bull beside Max. I think they have two different of driving styles And I feel like that has a blocked a seat from a potential up-and-coming driver. I think Yuki would be great with a midfield team. I think he’s a very good midfield driver, but considering the pressure cooker that is Red Bull and the fact that they try and get drivers up into the top team to be battling at the front of the grid I just don’t see that for Yuki. I hope he stays in the sport And I hope that if Red Bull do drop him at the end of the Honda deal that he’s able to go find a seat in all honesty at this point, I would be OK with seeing Yuki go to William Haas alpha or if Alpine, really looking for a PR stunt, reunite, the duo of Yuki and Pierre. I feel like that is what is caused a lot of the blocks is because he’s there. Yes he’s grown a lot as a driver but I still do not see him at Red Bull. I do however see him at a midfield team doing really well. Am I honest opinion him blocking one of the seats for this many years slow down the conveyor belt of young drivers coming onto the grid from the Red Bull program That’s controversial but if you look at the statistical history of Red Bull, how many drivers on that junior team have had as many seasons as Yuki has without getting put into the big team, it just raises questionability as to if he’s there for the Honda partnership, and if they are kind of stuck with him right now, I think of a different environment with more of a smaller team that is separated from one of the big teams like hass Williams any other midfield teams really I think he would do a lot better in those environments I’m questioning part of why we’ve seen Yuki have these outbursts and anger episodes is partly because of the pressure of knowing that everyone expects you to move up to the main team, but that he has never gotten the call up could be weighing on him. There could be a lot that’s not known, but I would really love to see him drive for another team and I definitely believe that he is what slowed down the conveyor belt of drivers in the junior team
I see where you're coming from. However, Marko stated that for 2023 there were no other options they viewed as a viable alternative for Yuki simply because the doctor had already impulsively grabbed Nyck. If he hadn't it would've been Liam into the car.
Max was the main factor changed the mechanism of Red Bull Junior Team.
It kinda acted like a cork and plugged up the program for as long as he drives in F1.
I wonder what would've happened if Red Bull decided to stick it out with Renault. If that were the case, I'm positive Renault would've made RB their works team and Alpine would be owned by someone else right now. Danny may have even stayed, as I'm sure switching to Honda (which was seen as crazy at the time) influenced his decision.
Daniel moved mainly for a new challenge and a big payout.
@@LawVS That's what we were told, yes. I'm sure there's more nuance.
I'm sorry but the biggest farse of an academy is Alpine. They had THE BEST JUNIOR EVER, considering his results and failed to get him a seat a d prefered 1 good dinosaur, and the most average driver ever.
You failed to realize that neither albon or gasly were clear gems, they were good but no amazing. Even Mercedes shipped another one of the best juniors ever to William for 2?-3? Seasons.
That's why the current program for Red Bull is far too ruthless and overgrown than it used to be. And as for Alpine? Definitely. Zhou got in, sure, but that was also off the back of $35m a year of sponsorship money to boot. But yes, Ferrari and Alpine are not doing their mission statement any favours.
Well certainly the best junior that Alpine have ever had and failed to have his signature on a contract of any description.
Dude Max had one year of single seater experience before being put in F1 he went from todays F3 equivalent to F1,,, that’s insane Max first year should of probably been 2017
Yep. Can't discredit that. That's Kimi levels of speedrun.
No, thanks. I don't want the risk of RB ruining Carlos' career like they almost did with Pierre and Alex.
I wasn't very happy about him joining Ferrari at first but it has been proven to be the right choice for Carlos.
I hope his good form continues, I wanna see him win a WDC one day 😎
I feel if Carlos had been at RB the revolving door issue would be far less problematic.
carlos would've struggled just lite perez cause rb car doesn't suits his driving style. carlos is an understeering driver like perez, rb19 prefers V/L path in corners which max/lecrec type driver prefer when the approch a corner, but sainz prefers a C shape path when going through corners(sometimes you will see carlos turniing the car ia flare curve,to load the rear tyre for more grip).
if you read current news you will come to know that ferrari unlock pace in the second half, the trick was to setup the SF-23 in an under steering style. Which is the reason why carloz is out performing lecrec, the moment next year car is reversed back to oversteering lecrec will start to perform at his usual pace.
It's just a hypothetical. If Carlos was there from 2019, he might have had more of an input in the RB15 or adapted to the style.
The moment you said you were a Mclaren fan on one of your old TFS/DBZ streams, i was wondering if someday you'll do F1 related content..... And Here We Are!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣 You have a new sub here and as a Tifosi i can't wait for more videos like this and the crazy What-If's XDDD
Yea but Carlos is a smooth operator
He smoothly made reality work anyway!
Lawsons lack of a seat is all because of Albon he gets ependisitus nyck takes his place gets points redbull hire nyck nyck gets dropped Daniel gets the seat breaks his hand Lawson replaces him then gets dropped, if not for that lawson might’ve started at alphatauri though I think it would’ve still been Daniel there still fun to imagine
But it's still not fair that despite these great shows he's not even the top candidate.
@@LawVSof course I wish it was yuki Lawson but I get that Daniels there for the publicity and at least this means Lawson is now a hot asset that people know is a capable driver in an f1 car
It is not carlos's fault, there was no guarantee that he would have gotten the 2nd RB seat. RB operates in a way that is not beneficial to anyone who is not max. it wasn't sainz job to "keep waiting so rb can to stable or something" we all are seeing how much waiting is helping lian lawson.
5:15 let's face it. Helmet Marko gets along with no one.
He's making some shoddy decisions these days, too.
But he chose Max and he and the program will unalive on that hill.
That’s bull shit dude,,, There are 5 former Red Bull juniors on the grid right now with Liam,,Max,, Gasly,, Albon,, Sainz and Danny Ric injured,, Yuki is a Honda dream driver or whatever they’re called
@@Jrh-rp7np you make zero sense there ✌️
U should make a what if Carlos stayed for the extra year
I kinda did already haha
@@LawVS
Fair enough
Strongest driver line up of 2024 is LawVS and Ladder
Oh *_that’s_* what you call it? So Kelly Piquet is just *_on loan_* to Verstappen? Well isn’t she hashtag blessed, and good on Dyanyiyl Kyviyayt for backing a winner.
Ouch.
Just wanted to say i love these deep dive theories 🔥
Cheers, Kevin!
What you don’t take into account is that Red Bull is the only double team on the grid, and they employ twice as many drivers as any other team. I think they deserve more praise than criticism for being in a driver flush position. Lawson realizes, just as Piastri did last year, that he must sit on the sideline, but be race ready - his time will come. He will still get paid and looked after by the team, and he has twice the chance of getting a drive than other Test Drivers.
The thing is though is that the flow of drivers has slowed down to a crawl. Liam Lawson, who should be in F1 full-time now has to wait for 2025...that's appalingly slow.
@@LawVS And in other teams?? You don’t comment on Mercedes, who has a geriatric driver who’s been there for 11 years already, and one change in drivers since 2016! Nobody comments about Mick Schumacher not getting a drive there. Seems like the ?F1 fans use any opportunity, even if it has no substance, to throw muck at Red Bull.
Lawson going to Williams would be good for RB but bad for the rest of the grid. Why give the best team in the series seat time to allow them to make a solid young driver even better? If other teams were smart, they wouldn't sign Lawson if he is just going to be in a RB or AT seat in 2025.
If Lawson isn't going to stick around, it would be better for Williams to sign someone else who would have long term possibilities. Hell, even hanging onto Sargeant is better loaning Lawson for one year. At least you get some consistency, and the possibility of Sargeant finding some form.
Williams isn't an option for Liam, he has said he isn't interested in a loan deal and neither is Horner. "I am a Red Bull driver." he said pretty much.
Great video!
Cheers, pal!
A bit harsh on Alex there, he deserved far nmore from RB.
Yeah he's got a good place at Williams.
best f1 youtuber atm congrats!
Cheers, pal! Much obliged.
Red bull is angry that he denied max q3 entry
Haha. But that's the ultimate thing to prove speed!
Technically it's got to be joylon palmer who underperformed which is why renault took sainz
Yeah, sort of. But they could've picked any other driver. Sainz was looking at the time.
IMO hiring Ricciardo was RBRs biggest mistake for this year. Danny Ric takes the seat of any potential upcoming talent from F2 and there are plenty of those - that's assuming Yuki's seat is safe because... well, Honda. OFC Danny has not yet had many chances to show his talent, but I just think the risk of taking a new talent is well worth the risk of sacrificing an experienced driver. AT doesn't need an experienced driver like Ricciardo, they need raw talents like Max or Piastri in order to build them up for the Red Bull seat. I don't think Ricciardo will ever return to the Red Bull team, IMO there are greater talents that should be built up in AT in order to promote them to Red Bull eventually. AT seem to lose track of what their actual job is - bringing talents into the top team.
Yep. They leapt on Daniel because he was available, marketable and an easy way to generate positive press after years of negativity and anti-Max content from social media.
@LawVS Carlos to RedBull make it happen 😭
Red Bull has a massive driver problem. So many looming talents and yet not enough race seats.
Yep. Maybe focus on Super Formula more.
This is all in hindsight based on a shock decision that turned out to be one of the worst driver decisions we've seen in motorsport. You can say Carlos should have just stayed at torro rosso. But look at the perspective when he made the move. Who was expecting Ricciardio to suddenly up and leave Red Bull? There was no real logical reason behind Ricc leaving Red Bull for a strictly worse team performance wise and personnel wise in Renault. As such, what Carlos did allowed him to be a lead driver for a works team in Mclaren.
I will agree it was foolish to move...to a team whose engines went bang and gave them so much anger.
Liam should hav been picked last year to replace Pierre but nooooo... thanks to Marko
Marko saw the jangling Nyck de Keys.
well... not really carlos fault now is it. red bull just cant really decide who they want or not. im personally not going to sit and wait for someone to want me, im here now or never...
Of course. It's just a hypothetical. If only he had waited one more season is all.
Can you explain to me, how you only have 15k subs?
I've only been posting about 9 months?
Sainz did the right thing at that very moment, had it not been for Riccardo leaving the team in 2019 Sainz might have been stuck in the Toro Rosso seat forever, so it was all about chance, I think he will have a new long term Ferrari deal coming his way anyway where he is capable of taking charge and dont think Redbull will be at the top forever.
Of course. It's all so cryptic. This is just a hypothetical
I’m sorry, while Lawson was solid, all his hype is from points in Singapore that required 5 DNFs. He would have been about 14th otherwise. Sainz going super slow also made life a lot easier.
Sometimes that doesn't matter. You've got to finish and make the most of other's misfortune.
@@LawVS Agreed. My only point was that, unlike some rookie stars, he didn’t get that result by being real fast. He’s got potential.
honestly speaking the RedBull academy is the best out there , which other team is promoting it's juniors??
Williams is and Vowles is being as forgiving as possible.
@LawVS so it's Williams and not one else really , if you check the grid now , about half the grid is RedBull academy affiliated ,7 drivers i think , that on it's own speaks volumes about the junior program , yes it's not the most forgiving or naturing (unless if you are a Max Verstappen) but atleast it does give it's juniors a chance
RBR aren't exactly a reliable source of information about RBR's driver plans. I have my doubts that Checo will be on the grid next year & Liam will slot in somewhere.
Oh I think everyone in the paddock won't be surprised if they suddenly rug-pull Checo.
Red Bull kills drivers careers
Unless you're Max.
Bro, fix your attic
Nah I'm good. It's just mostly flat cardboard boxes anyway.
Aren't you that Dragonball lore guy? Just wondering
MasakoX? That's me yeah.
Haha amazing, you're doing such a great job loved your takes keep it up.
Liam Lawson would be a good shadow for Max Verstappen....
Learn a bit earlier
I hope he gets more sim time and close tutelage from Max behind the scenes.
Blame palmer for being a bad driver ;)
I think the Sainz camp were tired of the infighting.
Hello, do you think that Mercedes will be back in they winning ways.
Of course they will. They have the know-how, means and desire to do so.
If Checo wasn't there, I don't think Max would be champion in 2021.
Indeed. Checo was a "legend" in 2021.
Nyck de Vries was Nikita Mazepin level bad
I wouldn't say that. He was never A WHOLE MINUTE BEHIND HIS TEAMMATE IN THE SAME CAR.
It's Marko and his inability not to be an old git that gives them problems.
And nah, i think what we would be talking about now is Sainz being burned out and having to rebuild himself. Red Bulls 2nd seat is a poison chalice because the team is geared around one guy more than any other team on the grid.
Even when he's trying to be reserved he can't let the snipes at Checo go.
Marko is mostly the problem with the driver programme. Why would you want to join a toxic atmosphere
It didn't used to be this way, it's only since Max started to show his raw pace others kinda felt like also-rans.
Funniest part of this video 8:13 "even checo" the guy in f1s most dominant car xant even make Q3
I reckon it's not his fault entirely. The guy is fighting a lot of resistance.
Very interesting take!! But then again, if Daniel wasn’t a “wuss” (wanted to use a different word here) and didn’t leave RB for Renault, who knows what would’ve happened;)
Well it would've made the path of Red Bull Juniors a whole lot simpler.
Sounds like Red Bull just needs to focus on developing drivers, instead of trying to find the next Max Verstappen. Guys like that are once in a generation or once in lifetime drivers. Let these young guys develop and if they cut the mustard, great, if not, they get cut. But they gotta stop comparing everyone to Verstappen.
Max is already Max and not going anywhere.
one thing I disagree the 2021 Abu Dhabi GP had that controversy never happened Verstappen would no have been champion he didn't win fair and square LH should have got 8th championship the only thing I disagree with with the 2021 when you said max would have won anyway, NO. FIA screwed up.
That whole thing was a complete mess. I want to forget it.
What catastrophe? 8 drivers on the grid are Red Bull drivers
I'm referring to the cutthroat promotion/demotion spree from 2017-present. If Carlos had stuck around in Toro Rosso for one more season, things would've been SO MUCH SMOOTHER. Like him.
Perhaps true, but the cutthroat promotion/demotion has delivered a lot of good drivers to F1, and Carlos and his father didn't want to be in a team with Max again, because they knew what he was capable off.@@LawVS
CHECO IS WINER
Your always winner.
what a wasted 6 years for daniel
The plan didn't work.
Checo will be gone after MexicoGP. By his own choice or not.
I sincerely hope not.
@@LawVS If he keeps up his current form he lose P2 in the championship and that's the only reason he's still in the car
Carlos didt want to destroy his career
I get it and it has worked out for him...but still.
Hey Ladder man !I believe piastri and Lawson are atm the 2 best rookies since max and Lewis 🤔
You can't really compare Lewis to the modern rookies though. Max? You can't really compare him either since he came in with only one season of single seater racing behind him. I'd say Oscar and Liam are the best rookies since Lando.