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  • We have had a wonderful time talking about the acquisition of the Kirtland temple and talking with Mr. Kirtland.
    In this last episode we want to take a deep dive into the Nuavoo purchases by the church from the Community of Christ.
    We are so thankful to our friends in the Community of Christ for all there hard work and dedication in taking care of these historic sites all these years.
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  • @JJBrown-lw1dv
    @JJBrown-lw1dv 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As you were talking about how we can't dig anywhere in the area without finding artifacts the first chapter of Mormon came to mind:
    Mormon 1
    6 And it came to pass that I, being eleven years old, was carried by my father into the land southward, even to the land of Zarahemla.
    7 The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings, and the people were as numerous almost, as it were the sand of the sea.

  • @victoriaorme1564
    @victoriaorme1564 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Brings back sweet memories of our tour. Rod gives so much information that he calls it boot camp! The Spirit is strong as you walk the mounds or visit temple sites.❤

    • @CatchTheBuzz1
      @CatchTheBuzz1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for sharing that. I hope to go to the mounds

    • @BookofMormonEvidence
      @BookofMormonEvidence  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Victoria!

  • @davegrathwohl9
    @davegrathwohl9 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is some really good information...

  • @jeffhughes1862
    @jeffhughes1862 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I really enjoyed this. I love nauvoo

  • @justbob2133
    @justbob2133 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Fascinating info about the Smith Family cemetary being located among so many Hopewell/Nephite burials. I greatly appreciate the work Rod does to share this knowledge. He and Greg at Cwic Media had a very interesting conversation a few weeks ago about Kirtland and Nauvoo histories. Thanks so much, Rod!

    • @lataifaleofa6115
      @lataifaleofa6115 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ROD N GREG BOTH BLESS N ALL THIS IS BEAUTIFUL ABOVE N BEYOND IN OUR HEART ,THANK THE LORD IT ALWAYS N WILL COME TO PASS THE PROPHECY FROM GENESIS 49:22-26 ( THEY HATED HIM N SHOT AT HIM) READ ALL THIS IS THE LAST DISPENSATION ,BE READY FOR THE SECOND COMING OF THE LORD.THIS IS HIS KINGDOM ON EARTH MATTHEW 21:43.YES ,THIS IS THE RESTORED GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST IN THIS LAST 3 DISPENSATION.
      THE FIRST 3 THOUSAND YRS( OLD TESTIMENT) +1THOUSAND YRS ( NEW TESTIMENT) COMING OF CHRIST ( LAST 3 THOUSAND YRS ,BOM,D&C,PEARL OF GREAT PRICE) THE FULLNESS OF THIS EVERLASTING GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST) AMEN.
      ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @lataifaleofa6115
      @lataifaleofa6115 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      3+1+3=7

    • @BookofMormonEvidence
      @BookofMormonEvidence  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are very welcome!

  • @lauramacgregor9057
    @lauramacgregor9057 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you for your work!

  • @marymac674
    @marymac674 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

  • @candacemackey7545
    @candacemackey7545 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You have a generous heart my friend. ❤
    I watch every episode! I learn so much watching you. Thanks for all you do and are. ❤️
    I’m sorry I don’t comment more frequently but sometimes I’m too tired. Long covid is a real thing.

  • @sarahbean6170
    @sarahbean6170 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Very cool! Learned some new stuff! Thanks Rod!

  • @studerje
    @studerje 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love your videos.

  • @paulblack1799
    @paulblack1799 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Rod, I like the pic of you and your trowel. Any photos of you with musket and trowel? 😊

  • @tanyas.3812
    @tanyas.3812 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please make sure that we get the information on when the tours are happening. Thanks so much.

    • @BookofMormonEvidence
      @BookofMormonEvidence  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Simply click on the main Website and look for Tours. www.bookofmormonevidence.org

  • @balduran2003
    @balduran2003 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The sound quality is much, much better since you started using a microphone closer to your face.

  • @krismurphy7711
    @krismurphy7711 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We now know humans have been in North America since 14,000 BC. That is a long time for generations on top of generations on top of generations.

    • @BookofMormonEvidence
      @BookofMormonEvidence  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Based on secular dating techniques that may be wrong.

    • @krismurphy7711
      @krismurphy7711 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BookofMormonEvidence Carbon 13 and 14 are not wrong. That is just faithful BS. Isn’t the motto of Brigham Young University “the glory of God is intelligence”?? Then why do some Mormons deny deny deny?

    • @BookofMormonEvidence
      @BookofMormonEvidence  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because many carbon dates have been shown to be inaccurate and are excluded from results that don't match the date anticipated. Is carbon's decay really perfectly known and consistent? Why have some carbon dates been given that go into the future?
      There are underlying assumptions to both carbon and radiometric dating that may not be as consistent as must be assumed to produce the dates given.
      However, we believe that carbon dating is useful in the comparative dating of more recent happenings. Some of the catastrophic events of the past, such as Noah's flood, may have altered the carbon ratio's of the Earth, thereby affecting carbon dating beyond that time, for example.

    • @BookofMormonEvidence
      @BookofMormonEvidence  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Once science claimed blood-letting was helpful for health, others denied it. Who was correct? We will take God's word as more authoritative than man's science when they conflict. We love true science. And scientific 'truth' is always changing, while God's TRUTH is everlasting.

  • @wnyvideo1777
    @wnyvideo1777 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Look into Chief Midegah of the Ojibwe and the birch bark scrolls.

  • @krismurphy7711
    @krismurphy7711 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Native Americans lived in the Nauvoo area for centuries. Illinois resident and American researcher and writer Janice K. Patterchak writes that from 10,000 BC to 8,000 BC, Paleo peoples roamed this area,..."

    • @BookofMormonEvidence
      @BookofMormonEvidence  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But the artifacts recovered from the Smith Family Cemetery area were specifically of Hopewell culture, which dates to Book of Mormon timeframes.

    • @krismurphy7711
      @krismurphy7711 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BookofMormonEvidence Link to these artifacts? Any of them made out of steel?

    • @BookofMormonEvidence
      @BookofMormonEvidence  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      krismurphy7711, Have you ever noticed old rusty cars? Or seen old farm implements left out in the weather? If you have made such observations then you may be able to answer your own question. News flash! Steel RUSTS! And the longer it rusts the more it crumbles into a redish stain in the soil. No thoughtful person would expect any ancient steel to survive several hundreds of years of weathering, much less thousands of years. Please think about that before asking further questions about finding steel. If someone ever found steel, it would have to have been protected from humidity or damp conditions over its entire existence, so would be incredibly rare for such a thing, yet you seem to think that thousand year old steel should still be found?

    • @krismurphy7711
      @krismurphy7711 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BookofMormonEvidence You are deflecting. I asked if steel was a known technology, per The Book of Mormon, WHY would anyone make any weapon of war out of copper? Steel cuts through copper.

    • @krismurphy7711
      @krismurphy7711 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BookofMormonEvidence You do know that steel must be exposed to air to rust? Buried steel in some cases won’t deteriorate.

  • @livinthedream4479
    @livinthedream4479 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I doubt it’s coincidence that Smith family and at the very least relatives of Nephites are buried in the same area. There are no coincidences with the Lords doings . Wontresurrection morning be wonderful?!

    • @BookofMormonEvidence
      @BookofMormonEvidence  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We wonder who of the Nephites might have been buried there to resurrect along with Joseph and Hyrum et al?

  • @mghanzel
    @mghanzel 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To your question about whether the artifacts in the basement of the red brick store were part of the purchase or not. I visited the store last week and there was a moving van out front rented by the Community of Christ and they were loading up the basement artifacts. Not sure where they were taking them.

    • @kingtutspiano
      @kingtutspiano 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was there last week. The Community of Christ is not giving up the artifacts that were in the basement and keeping them somewhere as part of the agreement and listing each item carefully.

    • @BookofMormonEvidence
      @BookofMormonEvidence  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, we had our eclipse tour shortly after these interviews and found that the artifacts are being moved from the basement. Disappointing that the Church didn't get them in the sale of the Red Brick Store.

  • @3blenders
    @3blenders 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    if that’s the case that it’s harder to find a bc place in Illinois that has no Native Remains or Artifacts, it indicates that Millions of People must have lived there or died there.

  • @jakewhitehead1
    @jakewhitehead1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Has anyone done dna sequencing on the bones?

    • @BookofMormonEvidence
      @BookofMormonEvidence  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not that we are aware of. The dating of the artifacts comes from their uniqueness to the Hopewell, i.e. effigy pipes, arrowhead shape/size, etc.

  • @krismurphy7711
    @krismurphy7711 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    28:30 "fortifications"?????? On what basis do you classify a mound as such?

    • @BookofMormonEvidence
      @BookofMormonEvidence  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      On the multitude of long linear earthen walls surrounding spaces of occupancy.

    • @krismurphy7711
      @krismurphy7711 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BookofMormonEvidence I’m familiar with mounds. I’m not familiar with raised earth that surrounds collections of mounds.

    • @BookofMormonEvidence
      @BookofMormonEvidence  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Look up Hopewell Culture National Historical Park, for example. Or check out the numerous geometric complexes of Ohio, such as the Hopeton, Seip, and Fort Hill sites. There are dozens of such sites. Even later sights like Okmulgee and Etawah Mounds had encircling mounds around a central mound complex. Hopeton complex still has portions of its original ditch and embankments as described in the Book of Mormon.

  • @krismurphy7711
    @krismurphy7711 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    22:00 All the arrowheads are STONE? NO METAL? NO STEEL???

    • @bryanpons6585
      @bryanpons6585 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Get a life dude. Your ignoring your own life and getting nothing for it. Are your cats/goldfish going hungry?

    • @BookofMormonEvidence
      @BookofMormonEvidence  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are numerous projectile points of copper all over the interior of America. Steel points would rust away in only a few dozen years, as have most spaniard swords that were left on the ground.

    • @krismurphy7711
      @krismurphy7711 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BookofMormonEvidence Why would they make copper instruments of war when they supposedly had access to Steel?

    • @BookofMormonEvidence
      @BookofMormonEvidence  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because the native copper from Tennessee and Michigan doesn't require high temperature smelting as would steel, yet for practical hunting or war purposes provided nearly the same deadly qualities.
      Why would anyone go through the effort of smelting steel when they can make effective weapons from flaked stone or native copper? That is the real question.

    • @krismurphy7711
      @krismurphy7711 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BookofMormonEvidence Why didn’t mankind stop at flaked stone? Or Copper? Or bronze? No one stops their technological advance. And if they had steel tech, brought to them or brought across the sea, they certainly would be using it and probably make everything out of it.