Love that you’re giving Hoyt a shot I know you’ll be pleasantly surprised once you start sending arrows down range with the Rx8 Ultra. Can’t wait for the paper tune and sight in videos!!!
seen guys talk about their bows falling out the bed of their truck and being just fine. I don't want anything that's gonna break from a light toss. Let alone falling 20+ft up from a tree
The funny thing is that the Hoyt carbon bows are probably the toughest bows on the market I have seen videos that they have been ran over dry fired and threw and still shoot 👍👍
Make some videos of ways to work on your bow in the field. There all kinds of videos on how to work in them in a shop but knowing a few tricks for in the field would be awesome
I’d love to see string angle included in the reviews. I’m a taller shooter and this is something that means a lot to comfort and accuracy. Love what you’re doing! Thanks!!
Just a recommendation: Use a Prusik Knot for the Hamskea cord rather than the "football" and then having to manage the extra cord. This is how I set mine up and it is wonderful. Hasn't slipped ever!!
Just realized that I often listen to these videos while working on the car, doing yard work, or driving. JJ I don't know how we ended up here, but you've become bow building ASMR. Sorry.
Huge topic is understanding forgiveness expectations! Even some of your videos that talk about reflex, brace (overall framed geometry) don't seem to play out as expected. Surprisingly I found the Alpha X 30 one of the most forgiving and easiest to shoot bows I've owned in a long time. Went in wanting to like/get the Bowtech Core 30. But at 27.5 inch draw their "one cam module fits all" setup offered very poor performance in comparison. (Fore those who want to know - In performance mode @ 70 lbs. the B/T drew easy BUT performance wasn't even close.) Hoyt has excellent performance, a great hunting valley & wall @ 85% imo, but draws a bit more stout - but still very linear.
it's the 35 yard forgiveness and the stability of the alum. Hoyt (no added stabilizers etc. ) which I found surprisingly outstanding! (also had intended to purchase a 32 to 33 ata bow)
I think a good basic how to video would be draw length. I just recently watched the elk shaped video that talked about the guys draw length being too long and him not even realizing it. I’ve also noticed that a lot of your bow reviews that the draw length the bow says it’s at is not always 100% accurate. After I watch that video, I went right outside, drew my bow back, put myself in front of a camera to see if I was leaning the way he was. It would be nice to know all the different things you could do to tell if your length was too long or too short.
I'm genuinely looking forward to when you do the shoot-off of the different bows against each other I hope you're doing a PSE Mach or Nock 30 build as well--all the hype sounds too good to be true for those of us with a 30+ inch draw length.
I think a great video for beginners would be how to properly setup and use an index release. See so many new shooters and old ones that have their index release way too long which makes it a lot easier to punch rather than getting the full finger wrap and pulling.
Thank you for doing the bow builds! When you are done with the bow builds and you pick one could you go over what you liked and dislike on the bows and compare them all? I know that takes a lot of time and you are busy the way it is. But it would be nice to hear the good and bad on the bows from your perspective.
Great video, thank you. You mentioned several times how light the Hoyt quiver is, also emphasizing that in order to achieve that weight certain accessories should not be used. That suggests that Hoyt probably does not publish the weight for "quiver only w/o extra mounting accessories". Even if they did, channels like yours usually like to trust but verify. That being said, can you provide the stripped down quiver weight? No doubt, many folks are considering alternatives to the Hoyt quiver (I'm looking at Tight Spot Quivers) so weight comparison is one consideration (function, durability, stiffness are even more important).
Thanks MFJJ, tombstone looks great and you've decked that bow out superbly. If you're taking video requests I'd like to see the speeds as the mods change from 30" to the longer 30.25"+ mod for this ultra.... As a 30.5-31 inch draw that'd be interesting to see if not too much of a pain to setup. 👍
Same as well!! I shoot the 30.25-30.5 range depending on loop and I keep debating if I’m better off going to 30 and adjusting loop/ cables or release change
@@joshflanery1352 had the same thoughts....a video showing the measurement accuracy (draw length accuracy) of each mod and a few chrono readings could be good!
I switched to ABB Launch strings from Hoyt’s stock strings and lost 3-5 fps of velocity due to the “stock” configuration not being in spec. (Axle-Axle was shorter as well as brace height) and Hoyt’s strings appear to be much stiffer/hotter in order to meet spec. I switched to 70/80lb limbs and currently have draw length set to 29.25” @ 75lbs and I’m getting 287fps with a 450gn arrow. At 70lbs., with same arrow I was maxed out at 273fps. The ABB strings “feel” softer and make the draw cycle which is already nice and little easier. Is this due to material or stings being pre-stretched? Not an expert, but there is certainly a difference in feel, stiffness between Hoyt’s stock strings and a set of ABBs and direct affect on velocity.
Would be great to get more detailed information regarding “stock” setup from Hoyt (i.e. is it in spec or out of spec) as well as stock string (are twists added to meet spec.)? What are the advantages and/or disadvantages for making changes with regards to let off (75-80-85) and back wall (hard or extra hard)? Do any of these changes affect velocity? What happens if you swap out Hoyt’s stock string to ABB, Gas or other strings (do you gain/decrease velocity, feel, draw cycle)? It appears that you like to use your stabilizer bracket and single bar, but what would be the “optimum” setup for stabilizing if weight was not a factor( would you run a front stabilizer high or low on the go-stix with back bar) and does this change if poundage changes (i.e. 65 lbs vs. 70lbs. vs. 75lbs)?
Are you just able to use the shorter piece to mount the quiver that you removed from the posts instead of the longer ones? That way you don’t have the extra sticking out?
Tight spot over these Hoyt quivers by far. One disconnect instead of two, nothing sticking out the other side of your bow, AND my tight spot sits 1/32” off the riser. Seamless integration
The Hoyt stands are cool, but awkward to move the legs back and forth. Don't like shooting it with the legs flipped out so been a fail for me. If they make these easier to flip back it'd be a winner.
I just got an Alpha X 33, and am having issues with tuning. I flipped my original shims and fix the large majority of my tail right tear, but my Hoyt QAD rest is now maxed to the right and my cams are offset to the right. My bare shaft and broadhead is hitting about 8" to the right of my field point at 20yrds. Not sure entirely what to do. I think i could use a shim kit to solve the problem. Any advice would help big time. Also, does anyone else notice how tight of a clearance there is for the cables clearing the veins?
This sounds obvious, but check your top cam while at full draw and make sure you’re not torquing the string left or right in your anchor. I doubt you are but I’ve stopped several guys from tearing apart their bows to fix bad tears that were caused solely from this. Easy to see if you stand directly behind someone during a paper tune. Hope this helps.
I’m a newbie, I’m learning with a bear adapt plus and want to upgrade to a Mathew’s or a Hoyt. But I’m undecided though. Or even a bear persist. So many choices help please guys. I’m a new guy so I don’t understand all the archery terminology. I’m learning little by little from my new archery and hunting family, thank you all for the great feedback in teaching me really thank guys you’re all the best. 🙏🏽
Spend some time with your current bow to get some experience, research bows with features you are interested in, set a budget, when ready to "upgrade" shoot as many bows as you can and don't let marketing fool you into thinking you need the new new. I'm shooting a bow from 2014 (mathews helim,) consider buying a used flagship bow for a huge discount and save money or use it for better accessories.
Zoomed in filming is nice and detailed, but don’t pull the camera out in the middle of a task. It’s nice to see exactly what you’re explaining especially when you’re covering a component people might not be familiar with, productive criticism not a gripe 😊
You draw your bow with no arrow. You throw your bow on the ground. What other bad habit can I look forward to in the future? Do you want to be taken seriously or not?
Sure wish ta hell there were pro shops with dudes like u that know how to correctly set someone up perfectly here in central Oklahoma. There are NO pro shops within 2 hrs of where i live.
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Love that you’re giving Hoyt a shot I know you’ll be pleasantly surprised once you start sending arrows down range with the Rx8 Ultra. Can’t wait for the paper tune and sight in videos!!!
when you threw the bow on the ground at the beginning I went through all 5 stages of grief at the same time 😡😰😱💔
No kidding. But he's right. If they can't take that....... Don't buy one.
seen guys talk about their bows falling out the bed of their truck and being just fine. I don't want anything that's gonna break from a light toss. Let alone falling 20+ft up from a tree
The funny thing is that the Hoyt carbon bows are probably the toughest bows on the market I have seen videos that they have been ran over dry fired and threw and still shoot 👍👍
I just got mine running last weekend. Such a great bow and made me a better shooter than I thought I should be lol.
Make some videos of ways to work on your bow in the field. There all kinds of videos on how to work in them in a shop but knowing a few tricks for in the field would be awesome
I had to go read the transcript, i could have swore you said someone was going to win this bow😂wishful thinking. Great content as always 🤟
I think everyone would benefit from a detailed broad head tuning video.
I always get a kick out of his “fast” setup videos being more then most customers experience 😂
I’d love to see string angle included in the reviews. I’m a taller shooter and this is something that means a lot to comfort and accuracy. Love what you’re doing! Thanks!!
YES PLEASE, Put the bows in a drawboard, record the angle and list it with the stats/scores.
Just a recommendation: Use a Prusik Knot for the Hamskea cord rather than the "football" and then having to manage the extra cord. This is how I set mine up and it is wonderful. Hasn't slipped ever!!
Blake’s hitch works as well. I prefer Blake’s hitch over prusik
The “extra cord” is intentional
Gran Ego del tipo este. Pufffff. Vende mucho pero…, poco útil lo que publica!!!
Just realized that I often listen to these videos while working on the car, doing yard work, or driving.
JJ I don't know how we ended up here, but you've become bow building ASMR. Sorry.
My buddy started cutter stabilizers. In my opinion, they are the best stabilizers on the market!
I am eager to see you shoot these builds! Great video.
Can’t wait to see the tuning and the shoot off!
Huge topic is understanding forgiveness expectations! Even some of your videos that talk about reflex, brace (overall framed geometry) don't seem to play out as expected. Surprisingly I found the Alpha X 30 one of the most forgiving and easiest to shoot bows I've owned in a long time. Went in wanting to like/get the Bowtech Core 30. But at 27.5 inch draw their "one cam module fits all" setup offered very poor performance in comparison. (Fore those who want to know - In performance mode @ 70 lbs. the B/T drew easy BUT performance wasn't even close.) Hoyt has excellent performance, a great hunting valley & wall @ 85% imo, but draws a bit more stout - but still very linear.
it's the 35 yard forgiveness and the stability of the alum. Hoyt (no added stabilizers etc. ) which I found surprisingly outstanding! (also had intended to purchase a 32 to 33 ata bow)
I think a good basic how to video would be draw length. I just recently watched the elk shaped video that talked about the guys draw length being too long and him not even realizing it. I’ve also noticed that a lot of your bow reviews that the draw length the bow says it’s at is not always 100% accurate. After I watch that video, I went right outside, drew my bow back, put myself in front of a camera to see if I was leaning the way he was. It would be nice to know all the different things you could do to tell if your length was too long or too short.
I'm genuinely looking forward to when you do the shoot-off of the different bows against each other
I hope you're doing a PSE Mach or Nock 30 build as well--all the hype sounds too good to be true for those of us with a 30+ inch draw length.
I wish I never got rid of my RX-1 Ultra. That is such a great bow.
I preferred the rx1 ultra over the other ultras until the 7. It was the only 35 Ata ultra
Thank you for the build. The rx8 is more in my wheelhouse I have a 28.5 draw. I like 30 ata bows. They shoot well for me.
Love your setup videos. Just wish I was closer to pay for hands on training.
I think a great video for beginners would be how to properly setup and use an index release. See so many new shooters and old ones that have their index release way too long which makes it a lot easier to punch rather than getting the full finger wrap and pulling.
Beautiful bow
Thank you for doing the bow builds!
When you are done with the bow builds and you pick one could you go over what you liked and dislike on the bows and compare them all? I know that takes a lot of time and you are busy the way it is. But it would be nice to hear the good and bad on the bows from your perspective.
I was waiting for the bow twirl so bad lol
Great bow 🤙🏆🥇✅🎯🏹👌🏾🐐 same cams on the alpha X
Looks like a small Gillingham double bar!!!! 🍺🍺
Great video, thank you. You mentioned several times how light the Hoyt quiver is, also emphasizing that in order to achieve that weight certain accessories should not be used. That suggests that Hoyt probably does not publish the weight for "quiver only w/o extra mounting accessories". Even if they did, channels like yours usually like to trust but verify.
That being said, can you provide the stripped down quiver weight?
No doubt, many folks are considering alternatives to the Hoyt quiver (I'm looking at Tight Spot Quivers) so weight comparison is one consideration (function, durability, stiffness are even more important).
We like a good snug fit
Woooo review time!
Good morning!
Would like to see you review and tune that hoyt with that new grim stod desh tuning kit. To see what you think of it.
Rock on mfjj you are the man 🤘
Build a mach 30 with the PSE quiver please. Would really like to see the build.
When do we get to see the new 4mm components? Would love to see them vs similar inserts in an impact test to demonstrate why you preach titanium.
Awesome!!
Thanks MFJJ, tombstone looks great and you've decked that bow out superbly. If you're taking video requests I'd like to see the speeds as the mods change from 30" to the longer 30.25"+ mod for this ultra.... As a 30.5-31 inch draw that'd be interesting to see if not too much of a pain to setup. 👍
Same as well!! I shoot the 30.25-30.5 range depending on loop and I keep debating if I’m better off going to 30 and adjusting loop/ cables or release change
@@joshflanery1352 had the same thoughts....a video showing the measurement accuracy (draw length accuracy) of each mod and a few chrono readings could be good!
I switched to ABB Launch strings from Hoyt’s stock strings and lost 3-5 fps of velocity due to the “stock” configuration not being in spec. (Axle-Axle was shorter as well as brace height) and Hoyt’s strings appear to be much stiffer/hotter in order to meet spec. I switched to 70/80lb limbs and currently have draw length set to 29.25” @ 75lbs and I’m getting 287fps with a 450gn arrow. At 70lbs., with same arrow I was maxed out at 273fps. The ABB strings “feel” softer and make the draw cycle which is already nice and little easier. Is this due to material or stings being pre-stretched? Not an expert, but there is certainly a difference in feel, stiffness between Hoyt’s stock strings and a set of ABBs and direct affect on velocity.
Tuning arrows from the beginning to the end with broadhead tuning
What bow vice are you using? That thing is solid 💪
That thing is so nice.
Would be great to get more detailed information regarding “stock” setup from Hoyt (i.e. is it in spec or out of spec) as well as stock string (are twists added to meet spec.)? What are the advantages and/or disadvantages for making changes with regards to let off (75-80-85) and back wall (hard or extra hard)? Do any of these changes affect velocity? What happens if you swap out Hoyt’s stock string to ABB, Gas or other strings (do you gain/decrease velocity, feel, draw cycle)? It appears that you like to use your stabilizer bracket and single bar, but what would be the “optimum” setup for stabilizing if weight was not a factor( would you run a front stabilizer high or low on the go-stix with back bar) and does this change if poundage changes (i.e. 65 lbs vs. 70lbs. vs. 75lbs)?
Timing for cams with cheaper intro bows like an infinite edge pro. I just started archery and would benefit from this.
Are you just able to use the shorter piece to mount the quiver that you removed from the posts instead of the longer ones? That way you don’t have the extra sticking out?
Great video! Are you going to include a Prime RVX in your competition?
GREAT bow! I’d like to c u illustrate how much reflex a bow has. (Reflex-right word?)
Tight spot over these Hoyt quivers by far. One disconnect instead of two, nothing sticking out the other side of your bow, AND my tight spot sits 1/32” off the riser. Seamless integration
Like to understand more about putting twist in the string or cables. Not sure if you put clockwise or counter.
How bout a good in depth video on Broadhead Tuning ? Would be a great starter video
What is the material your epsilon bracket is made of ? Aluminum or composite ?
Awesome build better than the Mathew’s in your opinion?
I’m asking because I undecided between Mathew’s or Hoyt?
Is the stretch problem with the epsilon also a problem for the trinity?
Man I went on Hoyt and build a bow it said $4300.00 I don’t know if that was tax’s on it ye man that’s crazy no it’s insane, insane
I went on hoyt and built my bow. Rx-8 ultra with my accessories from my 5 and I paid 2208.00
Chaging out shims on older bows past 5 years type
Basic video=determining draw length.
Do speed test and exact draw length measurement please
A few trad videos would be cool to mix it up
Will you be at Colorado TAC?
Can we get breakdown and review of target bows
The Hoyt stands are cool, but awkward to move the legs back and forth. Don't like shooting it with the legs flipped out so been a fail for me. If they make these easier to flip back it'd be a winner.
101 video on draw length, like how to find yours and things like that.
I just got an Alpha X 33, and am having issues with tuning. I flipped my original shims and fix the large majority of my tail right tear, but my Hoyt QAD rest is now maxed to the right and my cams are offset to the right. My bare shaft and broadhead is hitting about 8" to the right of my field point at 20yrds. Not sure entirely what to do. I think i could use a shim kit to solve the problem.
Any advice would help big time.
Also, does anyone else notice how tight of a clearance there is for the cables clearing the veins?
This sounds obvious, but check your top cam while at full draw and make sure you’re not torquing the string left or right in your anchor. I doubt you are but I’ve stopped several guys from tearing apart their bows to fix bad tears that were caused solely from this. Easy to see if you stand directly behind someone during a paper tune. Hope this helps.
How to tie in a hamskea rest on your own should you want to change the cable out would be a great short 101 vid
It's the goat himself
I’m a newbie, I’m learning with a bear adapt plus and want to upgrade to a Mathew’s or a Hoyt. But I’m undecided though. Or even a bear persist. So many choices help please guys. I’m a new guy so I don’t understand all the archery terminology. I’m learning little by little from my new archery and hunting family, thank you all for the great feedback in teaching me really thank guys you’re all the best. 🙏🏽
Spend some time with your current bow to get some experience, research bows with features you are interested in, set a budget, when ready to "upgrade" shoot as many bows as you can and don't let marketing fool you into thinking you need the new new. I'm shooting a bow from 2014 (mathews helim,) consider buying a used flagship bow for a huge discount and save money or use it for better accessories.
Thanks for info I’m trying to learn as much as I can much appreciated 🙏🏽
Zoomed in filming is nice and detailed, but don’t pull the camera out in the middle of a task. It’s nice to see exactly what you’re explaining especially when you’re covering a component people might not be familiar with, productive criticism not a gripe 😊
Everyone knows who’s going to “win” already. 🙄
You draw your bow with no arrow. You throw your bow on the ground. What other bad habit can I look forward to in the future? Do you want to be taken seriously or not?
MFJJ is the man he can do as he pleases!
@@sanchito_del_ranchitodsanc622 you and mfjj should start a podcast
Sure wish ta hell there were pro shops with dudes like u that know how to correctly set someone up perfectly here in central Oklahoma. There are NO pro shops within 2 hrs of where i live.
if ur anywhere near bartlesville go to the arrow shop in dewy
With how he throws the bow on the ground i wonder if those go sticks will be used lol