Kawasaki GTR1400 Road Test

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  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    No electronics, no problems, that's the bike for me.

  • @TwoFourCharlie007
    @TwoFourCharlie007 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Love my GTR just done 7 European countries, super twisty road through Spain (N260) over the Swiss alps back to the uk 2400 miles it’s a proper beast and has lots of presence when it’s out and about comfort is amazing love keeping up with guys on the sports bikes

  • @MajorTom6
    @MajorTom6 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Amazing bike. It's not a dinosaur: it's just horses for courses. I'm not interested in engine modes, cruise control, bluetooth compatibility etc.

  • @ivancardenas2597
    @ivancardenas2597 6 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    New bikes have more accessories and gadgets, but they won’t last too long, that mean more complex bikewill give you more problems. This Kawasaki has great leg protection,massive front and massive engine. This is not a bike for crying babies. It’s a bike for men.

    • @bradkister79
      @bradkister79 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ivan Cardenas well said!

    • @Team-fabulous
      @Team-fabulous 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Couldn't agree more... A superb machine

    • @stevedougherty6370
      @stevedougherty6370 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Plus the only bike they said was relevant as a competitor prior to the H2 SX's arrival (of which the H2 SX is still inferior to the GTR14 in several aspects) is the BMW R1200RT. The thing is, they ramble on about gadgetory but even the R1200RT talk they came out with was a bunch of nonsense - there is no embedded gps system on them nor bluetooth unless you pay for it additional to factory standard options, which is the same for the GTR14.. the option is there to have things mounted after the fact...... but above and beyond any of that is that the GTR14 is hands down far more beautiful from any angle than the weird out of skew proportions of the bmws.. they look like an ugly old tramp with too much cellulite and fatty deposits bulging out in random places. The GTR14 is also far more aggressive and attractive than the FJR13's, ST13s and other relevant competitors of yesteryear.. the perfect balance of sports and touring rolled together. so what if the 'trend' is more toward cross country adventure bikes... trends are trends, they are not logic. In my world logic rules over trends. Too many sheep followers.. something people have generically been doing for thousands of years.

  • @kansaspatriot2051
    @kansaspatriot2051 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The 'simple' route that Kawi took with the GTR is exactly why I chose it over the BMW, ST1300, Triumph Sprint or the FJR. And I can't agree about it be tough to work into and out of a corner. I've found mine to be a breeze to 'flick' in and out of the twisties. I DO agree that it should come standard with cruise and heated grips but installing a throttle locker and grips myself were really easy and have made it as good or better than the other offerings out there and at a lower price all around.

  • @MrNedsaabdickerson
    @MrNedsaabdickerson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I bought a brand new 2020 GTR 1400 (Concurs 14) off the showroom floor with zero miles for under $15,000 US dollars out the door! Not sure I could buy a new bike with all the electronic whistles for that kind of money. I regularly do 200-300 mile trips on it on the week ends, excellent motorcycle!

  • @Team-fabulous
    @Team-fabulous 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    It's a SPORTS touring bike and this constant crying about no cruise control from some reviewers is a nonsense, I've never needed the need for it, and if you feel you do need it your throttle cable could do with a lube, the GTR is a fantastic bike with very little wrong with it and it is unfair to criticise because it is an older bike. They are now very well price on the second hand market and do an exemplary job for what they're designed to do.
    Making comparisons between the Gtr and modern BMW models is unfair as the Kawasaki is an old model and thank god as it won't suffer the expensive electronics failures that BMWs are riddled with.
    PS... Kawasaki sorted the heat problem with a new fairing, the very model you are riding so the problem doesn't exist....

  • @shadwox9808
    @shadwox9808 6 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Are you kidding me dinosaur wow it's the most reliable bike on the market after 10 years no cruise control who cares you want a bike or a car I think your missing the point about this bike in my mind it's still the king of sport tourism long live the gtr for the price still unbeatable

    • @bretttingelstad7641
      @bretttingelstad7641 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Added a MCCruise to mine for 1k and an Area-P pipe and ECU flash and I love that bike. Screw BMW, the Connie will outlast them all!

    • @Team-fabulous
      @Team-fabulous 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The test rider is talking out of his arse...

    • @Keyser_Soze739
      @Keyser_Soze739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Team-fabulous think he opened the throttle a bit too far 😝

    • @ralphandrewsaludobella814
      @ralphandrewsaludobella814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Japanese bike is more reliable

    • @RangerRyke
      @RangerRyke 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Idk I think the Fjr is better value in the used market and a little more reliable. But I’m biased just like you. These guys are just spoiled with their job so the can nit pick.

  • @im5341
    @im5341 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I rode this bike one time. Very comfortable. Big bike, but controls easier than my ZX10R. I loved it.

  • @toddjacobs5660
    @toddjacobs5660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Im on my 2nd brand new C14 , they are durable dependable bikes they handle excellent in the corners & have a ton of power ...

  • @danilocapellan1316
    @danilocapellan1316 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Iam not to crazy with electronics, to me this is a great motorcycle, real able, And trouble free..

    • @rider6.0
      @rider6.0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amazing bike!

  • @Nastyjonny
    @Nastyjonny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Beautiful bike, easy riding, powerful and handled really well. Only change made to mine was remapping that took out the power spike at around 7k rpm. Even power through the range. Miss it.

    • @vinjofin1972
      @vinjofin1972 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had a 2011 GTR1400. They were speedlimited at 245 kph. I have had a ecuflash (Woolich racing). Bye bye speedlimiter and a lot of more power in the first 3 gears. On the German Autobahn I reached almost 280 kph with the bike.

  • @Gigantor60
    @Gigantor60 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    To be honest, I bought my 2014 C14 for the engine. Kawasaki is know for their engines. Get the Ivan CPU flash on this beast makes this bike complete. This bike will leave all sport tourer in the dust and most sport bikes too

  • @markariewilliams
    @markariewilliams 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bluetooth, built in intercom hub, anti wheelie control, gps ready, electronic suspension, Traction Control... My multistrada does it all but at a price! Paid £12000 for it and now getting rid for a GTR1400 07 Model with 30k on clock, i can set both feet on the floor, tones of power, great handling, all day long comfy, dont have to take it to a scientist to have a service and a qualified ducati technician and pay £1000 for belts and service... Bloody amazing bike and ive had over 90 bikes in the last 10 years... second best was my zzr1400 but need a little more wiggle room now as getting on a bit. The presenter has been spoilt with the light fly by wire bikes on the market now! This is a true old school (Modern) Riders bike..

    • @robertbrandywine
      @robertbrandywine 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ninety bikes! How many do you keep in your stable at one time?

    • @markariewilliams
      @markariewilliams 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@robertbrandywine 21 few years back, down to 5 now, pain in the Arse keeping them all road legal and serviced lol...

  • @dleebox2268
    @dleebox2268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I still love this ole bad boy😎

  • @harleysrule2176
    @harleysrule2176 6 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Great bike... and who want's all that extra electronic shit that let's people track you as your ride; keep all that crap. This is a good and powerful bike.

    • @TheUrbanEpicure
      @TheUrbanEpicure 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Cruise control lets people track you?

    • @69VAJRA
      @69VAJRA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      cruisecontrol, heated grips, electric high windshield, low rpm at 120km/h, good speakers, aux, comfort seat...doing a tourer without it seems nuts.

  • @Jumacado
    @Jumacado 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The simple motorcycles are those that will always be there, those that will always have success, reliability, strength, comfort and ability to travel with half a house on top of your wife, making just 5.5 liters at 100 kms. I had it almost 10 years and never a single problem. Now I have a s1000xr but with so much technology, electronics and so on ... we'll see if it gives me another 10 beautiful years as my beloved GTR gave me, a wonderful machine. Motor journalists are very concerned about the latest developments and that they have the latest in the latest, but motorcycling is something else ... very different and this bike had a soul ...

    • @jdoukler
      @jdoukler 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Couldn’t agree more with you!!

  • @sgnt9337
    @sgnt9337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just bought a used 2017 model (4 days ago...). First GTR I've owned. From what I heard in this video I'm going to love this bike. I certainly don't need track-grade suspension. No cruise? Heck I'll get a throttle lock or something similar if I need it. It looks like highway pegs may be tricky to find/install. I'm a happy camper so far.

    • @colinm1325
      @colinm1325 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey sgnt, how has the ownership of the gtr been? The good, and if any, the bad? Thanks

  • @Bass.Player
    @Bass.Player 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have one just like this one, it does have traction control and two stage ABS. Mine has a 1/4" chicken strip because it handles really nice. I never noticed having to wrestle it at all. I guess if you are a girly man it might be? And Kawasaki fixed the heat on your legs problem in late 2009.
    I can't imagine two up on a H2SX for any distance, unless you and your rider are under 12 years old...
    However it is heavy, but it's a big bike...

  • @NZsarge1
    @NZsarge1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I had the updated (version 2 if you like) one of these (2010 on) and I agree in principle with most of your comments, yes it really does need updating, give it a bit more torque, another 20 hp, loose 20 kg, cruise control and cornering abs. Update the suspension with better componentry with an electronic option with chassis mods to lighten the handling. Keep the form factor, keep the motor (with updates) keep the shaft drive and one comment really puzzled me about the motor not being that smooth, in comparison to what, an electric motor? Yes my ZX14R is smoother but there’s not a lot in it really and the 14R motor is like liquid smooth!
    I know bikes like the H2 represent a new generation with all the goodies but there’s a couple of important points where the H2 falls short, critically in my humble opinion. First, not everyone wants the added over sophistication of supercharging when it’s not necessary and a lack of driveshaft in the touring market is worse than no cruise control in this style of bike.
    Then there’s the looks, the H2 is pretty damn ugly, even worse the a Hyabusa and that’s saying something, reportedly the fueling isn’t great and there’s the looks... yuk!
    If you want an H2 SX then great but I certainly feel there life left in the Concours/GTR recipe yet and ZX14R too for that matter, there’s nothing a new electronics suite and a good chassis fettle couldn’t fix.

    • @Keyser_Soze739
      @Keyser_Soze739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have to dissagree on one point with you.
      NOTHING is more ugly than a Hayabusa 😎

    •  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just a ecu flash solve your low down torque, the change es huge

  • @martintaboada9112
    @martintaboada9112 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    so far I loved this show, but this latest-and-greatest madness they've decided to follow... tsk tsk tsk.
    At 5:14 the comment "10 years ago this might have been a perfectly acceptable touring bike". Perfectly acceptable? I've been lucky enough to drive everything on 2 wheels north of 600 cc for the last 10 years. Absolutely every single motorbike, and not just for a short test drive. Focus on touring bikes. Sometimes clocking 5000km in a bit more than a long weekend with passenger through the Alps, from Cote d'Azur to Bulgaria. This is the single most capable bike there is, no-nonsense motorcycle riding, except for the immature implementation of the KI-PASS. It can haul more weight than a K1600, accelerate harder, ride faster, costs a lot less, it's a lot more reliable (in fact, 100% reliable so far after 150 000 km), a lot cheaper to maintain, and a lot more fun to drive. When push comes to shove, there's nothing from any other brand that can do what this bike can for less money... or more.
    Then, at 4:53 you say there's no GPS preparation (there is a bracket from Kawasaki specific for this bike, and a 12V socket just next to the clocks), and worse of all, "there's no bluetooth". What for, if I may ask?
    Guys, really, take up on fishing. If you want an iPhone on wheels it's your business and I'm all for it. But leave us motorcycle lovers enjoy our passion.

    • @chasefreedom5178
      @chasefreedom5178 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Martín Taboada the frustration of a media that insists nothing Kawasaki ever produces can measure up. It must chap their asses knowing so many could give a damn what their opinion is. I just bought a concours and I love it.

    • @bradkister79
      @bradkister79 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This nerd has no clue what real riding is about

    • @bretttingelstad7641
      @bretttingelstad7641 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are 2 wires under the glovebox which are 12 volt switched specifically for GPS! My Garmin hooked right up. These guys are idiots!

    • @dadrider3
      @dadrider3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Best comment ever

    • @movingforward6099
      @movingforward6099 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree ! Its all about the motor. I love my 2015!! This guy thinks there should be bluetooth and GPS on a CR 250. Great comment!

  • @clarkkent6642
    @clarkkent6642 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Had two, and my current ride. Total of 135000 Km trouble free. Try that on your BMW. Planted and stable fully loaded, 55 profile rear tyre transforms turn in, to be a lot faster. Unbeatable value for money re two up touring. I lane split daily, fully loaded. "Apparently" the Shoodabeen Tune transforms low and mid range grunt, plus some top end. Keep trying to replace it but rivals keep falling short on load capacity, range and value.

  • @mpsmyth3000
    @mpsmyth3000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yip tis fallen behind the curve with regards to electronic wizardry but that a big plus for me. Buying one this summer for European tour. Cheers for reviews keep them coming

  • @ridewithgnr2116
    @ridewithgnr2116 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was just waiting to see the comments here after watching. I have faithfully ridden my 08 c14/gtr1400 for over 10 years. I have found getting rid of the Bridgestone tires is the biggest upgrade you can do for the handling on that motorcycle. Perelli angel demon tires or Michelin pilots and you cannot go wrong with this motorcycle!

    • @danelobe2524
      @danelobe2524 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Continental Turing tires are better bigger rain groves, and they wear well.....

    • @nphare
      @nphare 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Perelli Angel GT tires, in the 55 size. Much better handling than the 50s which are hard to turn. The wet braking is phenomenal too.

  • @alanhassall
    @alanhassall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mine has traction control and linked ABS. I’m sorry that your market didn’t get that. It also has an eco mode which is supposed to get more efficiency and tones down the power output at lower RPM. If cruise control is necessary it is available aftermarket.

  • @I_m_Happy92
    @I_m_Happy92 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Kawasaki- High bhp, comfortable, less vibrations than any other inline .

  • @jwagner1993
    @jwagner1993 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here in new England, I think its the perfect machine to ride during the cold season.
    My perfect garage: k1300gt, gtr1400, Triumph Trophy

  • @sanderslongdrive
    @sanderslongdrive 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Having owned three successive GTR1000s immediately after they were released in the U.K. all of those decades ago, but now being unable to find a great used example a year ago I purchase d a 2008 GTR1400 with 19,000 recorded miles.
    Alas it is not a patch on its predecessor, albeit much faster - at least the early 'full power' one is which I have as allegedly it has an undiluted ZZR1400 engine and gearbox. Somewhat academic though as one is unlikely to be exiting bends at very high speed unless intending to do jail time, or possibly wrapping yourself around a tree due to this tourer's high centre of gravity. Having said that such has a lower C.O.G. than my once owned ZZR1100s.
    On the positive side it possesses a very smooth and powerful engine and carries weight very easily, and just like the GTR1000s - copious amounts of luggage. It also manages to return 47 m.p.h. if you don't tear around.
    Unfortunately though it embraces many negative features:-
    (a) Seat height is massively too high for a 5ft. 9ins. rider, indeed positively dangerous. Machine height can be significantly lowered but not via manufacturer's adjustments. Significant expense is involved.
    (b) Just as many other GTR1400 riders report, the A.B.S. system varies from being extremely ill designed to faulty / dangerous. Mine was dangerous and I had to pull the A.B.S. fuse, and thereby switch to a 'normal braking' system, in order to make the bike safe. Why? Otherwise if one accidentally led with the front brake then one could almost be thrown over the handlebars even braking to enter a supermarket at say 5 m.p.h. Using A.B.S. the front brake was utterly savage and the rear brake close to non-existant. Removing the fuse (under the seat) restores sanity. (The A.B.S. system was thoroughly checked by a Kawasaki main dealer and declared to be functioning correctly)!
    (c) The windscreen is not wide enough, not the seat as comfortable as on the GTR1000.
    (d) The wheels and frame were only coated with one coat of watercolour. That invoked a great deal of outlay which should have been completely unnecessary.
    (e) The mudguards are completely inadequate, indeed in addition to two mudguard extenders I also fitted rear GTR1000 kit off a scrapped bike.
    (f) Unnecessary electronics potentially cause repair cost mayhem and are fitted in a way so as to cause maximum replacement expense eg. tyre pressure sensors. Instead of paying £250. / wheel to replace after their non-replaceable batteries failed I removed them on changing tyres. That removes the electronic warning signs. Just manually keep on top of tyre pressures in the normal sane way as we always did.
    I could write much more but this is a post not a magazine review. But hope it helps if you are considering buying one.

    • @Keyser_Soze739
      @Keyser_Soze739 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you are a jealous bmw owner, regretting he paid way to much for a bike.

  • @holdorf333
    @holdorf333 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    nice to see frank zappa keeping busy

    • @sgnt9337
      @sgnt9337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought the same thing, I did a double-take initially.

    • @michaelottesen6143
      @michaelottesen6143 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too

  • @mikeh1173
    @mikeh1173 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Glad I bought mine.

  • @Kwhopperfan
    @Kwhopperfan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    love this machine, plan on buying a used one when my Super T is paid off. I am disappointed with the lack of cruise control. when you can find many under 10 grand, I cant complain. Any one getting rid of their "dinosaur" let me know, it can stay in my garage!

  • @chasefreedom5178
    @chasefreedom5178 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What it lacks is why I bought one. Rear tire fixes the cornering.

  • @takingoutthetrash1512
    @takingoutthetrash1512 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    BMW SUCKS!!… Kawasaki best bang-for-buck, less maintenance and will outlast any European rival

    • @nicholasjohnson6724
      @nicholasjohnson6724 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, had Kwakas all my life. LTD, GPZ, GPX and ZZR.
      All really solid and powerful.

  • @sbalak
    @sbalak 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Cheers, great review. Are you Frank Zappa's missing twin. he he...

  • @wightwalker2453
    @wightwalker2453 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A motorbike that needs to be ridden without electronic aids now obsolete, what crap! This was a great bike 10 years ago and still is today.

  • @bradabbott4892
    @bradabbott4892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a kawasaki sales manager for some 17 years I have sold a ton old and new concourse models 900 to 1400 cc bikes almost never had issues they just run and handle n other Japanese bike in the class comes close , myself I ride a zrx 1200 but I like the wind in my face maybe when I reach 70 in August ,I might opt for more comfort ona new concourse ?

  • @SWTrailsAndWheels
    @SWTrailsAndWheels ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My gen 1 and gen 2 Multistradas ran much much hotter than my 2010 Concours 14. I really don't understand where the heat complaints are coming from on the gen 2 GTR1400s. It is also amazingly light and flickable at low, medium and high speeds.

  • @vinjofin1972
    @vinjofin1972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you're not used to have cruise control you don 't miss it and then you certainly don 't need it. If I want cruise control I go by car.

  • @davidinman2793
    @davidinman2793 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brand new 1 year old stock available for $10,500 so you'll have tons of money left over for an aftermarket electronic cruise if you wish.

  • @geirmyklebust
    @geirmyklebust 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice with analogue gauges.

  • @christophertracy753
    @christophertracy753 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve had a conny and currently have a H2sxse and while they are both great bikes for all day riding the conny wins hands down. The h2 is fast the electronics are great but after a couple of hours I’m done

  • @richardcasey7521
    @richardcasey7521 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Check the tire pressure! If its low just a few pounds the handling goes sour.

  • @Keyser_Soze739
    @Keyser_Soze739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I did several “over 1000km in a day”- trips without cruisecontrol on my GTR. They didn’t call it a Transatlantic Tourer for nothing when they launched it.
    And please, PLEASE, don’t ever again mention bmw again in a Kawasaki review.
    It makes my head starts aching.

  • @McLineBWG
    @McLineBWG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Personally, its character & reliability that matter the most. Yeah, call it a dinosaur and it's still 'biting'. 😄

  • @mrman7453
    @mrman7453 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love my Connie. It need it needs to be updated . Since 2015 27k miles no hiccups . I beat that bike like a 25 cent pony in front the drug store.

  • @MrN8073
    @MrN8073 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the zzr1400 have cruise control. Im choosing between the two. Last bike zzr1000. Thanks.

  • @Craigmri
    @Craigmri 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just bought a brand new leftover 2017 for a song......Thank god its a dinosaur as that reputation got me a steal at 11 grand US!!! Its a certified Rocket ship!

    • @noahdunaway
      @noahdunaway 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Craig Goldstein I JUST BOUGHT A LEFTOVER 2019 FOR $12289.00 OUT THE DOOR.

    • @gregorytimmons4777
      @gregorytimmons4777 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I envy you guys. Boy 11K! That's what I admire. About what one of the last Moto Guzzi Griso's to come in might cost me used. At least I saw one at a dealership. I'd have a hard time buying that over this. Especially at 11 but low 12K isn't bad either I'm sure. Thing is I've kinda owned a relative of each. An older 1000 Ninja and an old Moto Guzzi 1000. Those Kawasakis are pretty nice.

    • @trumpisyourpresident9785
      @trumpisyourpresident9785 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get ivansmod. You will cry at how much better she feels afterwards

  • @fabiena1787
    @fabiena1787 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your rings chinking on the tank at the end hurt me ! Yes, I'm quite sensitive ;-)

  • @billbertagnoli4226
    @billbertagnoli4226 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is an accessory called a
    Laminar lip. It mount on the
    Top edge of the wind screen
    Helps taller riders be in the
    Bubble.

  • @왕자만두
    @왕자만두 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a really interesting and informative video. I am riding the same kind of motorcycle.

  • @priestharis1565
    @priestharis1565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This bike will outlive every classier, more expensive, staffed with pointless cruise controls, more powerful, more... app... connecting... tft super... clear - 4k-screens BY YEARS!! Built to last. Not built to be sold after 2 or 3 years

  • @motorpolitan8884
    @motorpolitan8884 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If the GTR1400 was a car, it would be a W140 S-class. In my opinion, the best motorcycle ever made. Its only flaw is that the fuel tank should've been bigger.

  • @bikeonoor4006
    @bikeonoor4006 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Are u ready to pay 2x price for BMW's handful of chips "fantastic electronics" ? I'm definitely not.

    • @jimwhite8891
      @jimwhite8891 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly, if you want to complain about lack of GPS and bluetooth you should buy a convertible instead lol

  • @bretttingelstad7641
    @bretttingelstad7641 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bought my Concours 14 here in the US for $13,500 cash and added GPS ($600) and an exhaust and ECU flash ($1000) then added a nice touring seat ($500) and a MCCruise unit ($1000) after the first 3000 miles I added some good Michelin tires which improved the cornering greatly. So for around 17k I have what I consider a bulletproof, fast, awesome bike that does everything my friends 26k BMW does and I can outrun him anytime I want. Love old fashioned brute bikes! The new sissy bikes kind of make me sad for the next generation. Two genders is now 10 and other crazy crap. Good luck in the next 30 years, hope the world turns out OK. I will be gone then and my home on 40 acres will belong to my son.

    • @Keyser_Soze739
      @Keyser_Soze739 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You have friends with a bmw?
      What is wrong with you???

  • @mindspinn311
    @mindspinn311 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m glad they updated it in 2015, but it still needs cruise control, which the Ninja 1000SX and Versys 1000 both have. I had a 2016 FJR1300 and many things about that bike (also updated that year) were more modern and better (cruise, LED lighting, electronic suspension, etc) , yet some people say the Kawi is still better to ride.

  • @alanhassall
    @alanhassall 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here in the US, you really pay for the electronics. I added electronic cruise control from Australia and it has been flawless for nearly 10 years. I also have GPS, which is being replaced by smartphones. Aside from making the bike fit me, it has been extremely trouble free. With the money that I didn't spend for a bike with all of the electronics, I also purchased a 2007 Honda ST1300.

    • @colinm1325
      @colinm1325 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Alan, seeing you have/had both the gtr and st, what are your pros and cons of each that stand out or are niggling type of things? Do you get any handlebar vibes on each? Thanks for your thoughts.

  • @MrBillFletcherr
    @MrBillFletcherr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You must be incredibly weak. I have been riding one since 2011 and there is no muscling into corners at all...

  • @ridewithgnr2116
    @ridewithgnr2116 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love my 10 year old Concours 14/GTR1400. I have had her since shiny new. After a brief search, I found a non-abs bare bones, C14 still in the crate in 2008. I have never looked back on that purchase. It has proved to be a phenomenal motorcycle. I also have a balls to the wall non-abs Suzuki B-King that I stumbled on a few years ago with only 347 miles on the clocks. I find all the electronic "safety" electronics crap for bikes that are supposed to be about high-powered-edge of your seat-fun. I would not, however, mind cruise control on the old girl on those long cross country or freezing cold rides. Just over 50,000 miles on the old girl and runs like a champ. Oh, and I can go properply grocery shopping with the three panniers. The Concours 14 is a brilliant machine that has never bored me with around 90-plus ft lbs torque on tap. Average 45 miles per gallon. I will keep this motorcycle till the day I die.

  • @johnnykawakid
    @johnnykawakid ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dinasour? Wtf? Lol. Owned every type of bike there is. And still got my gtr. Superb all round machine. As good as anything out there. Keep up with most other bikes in comfort. What's not to like?

  • @georgemallory797
    @georgemallory797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I HATE all the electronic crap that breaks or wears out.

  • @robertbrandywine
    @robertbrandywine 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doesn't the 2020 model have cruise control, drive-by-wire, and all the other electronic goodies?

  • @bigmax8456
    @bigmax8456 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    get rid of the terrible OEM Bridgestone tires that come onwith the bike and it handles a lot better.

  • @Land-Shark
    @Land-Shark 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First to comment! The GTR1400 and ZX-14R/ZZR1400 are both temporarily protected by the higher price of the H2-SX. But if other makers start competing with the H2 series, then all bets are off on price.

  • @kevinvoeks7422
    @kevinvoeks7422 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BMW R1200RT has all the bells and whistles but lots of maintenance which requires BMW service $$$

  • @nickmarshall328
    @nickmarshall328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thumbs down for this very poor review. I guess by the look of the reviewer it’s just too much bike for him. I currently own a 2015 model. This is my second 1400GTR. There the best value big touring bike available. I don’t want cruise control on a bike. Would never use it. More interested in 50mpg. Monster power. Great acceleration. Comfort. Panniers that compliments the lines of the bike. Fantastic build quality. Stunning brakes. Centre stand. Etc etc. Never had hot legs. He must have just read that about the older bike and thought he would tell us this bike has the same problem. It don’t! I should have turned the review off and read the comments from you people who actually know what your talking about, and ride the bike for longer than 10 minutes.
    Rant over.

  • @kj9219
    @kj9219 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    BMW may have more bells and whistles but you pay big for them. Price wise, the C14 is more bang for the buck.

    • @gwynnromano5881
      @gwynnromano5881 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      k j After the warranty expires BMW stands for Bring My Wallet. All of the whiz bang electronics on the BMW will break the bank when they die. And they will will die.

    • @jdoukler
      @jdoukler 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      gwynn romano more like break my wallet!!

  • @martincornish3179
    @martincornish3179 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sorry this is a great bike by any standard.

  • @paxwallacejazz
    @paxwallacejazz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok well 60 yr old Asian American former motorcyclist here. I gotta say in my childhood being called a Jap (I'm not even of Japanese extraction) was the equivalent of being called a nigger in the 60s.

    • @robertbrandywine
      @robertbrandywine 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We don't mean it that way. It is just short-hand for Japanese.

  • @basilhendricks788
    @basilhendricks788 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought one its a a great bike

  • @martincornish3179
    @martincornish3179 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sorry there's no way this bike pumps hot air onto you're legs and it handles well

    • @Keyser_Soze739
      @Keyser_Soze739 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They took that comment from a 2008 model review 😉 (which was right at that time, but was changed in the 2009 model)

    • @martincornish3179
      @martincornish3179 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Keyser_Soze739 no he was referring to the bike he was riding.

    • @Keyser_Soze739
      @Keyser_Soze739 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@martincornish3179 what i meant was that he heard that say somewhere and just took it over. 😉
      Happy trails in the new year, Marin 🥳

    • @martincornish3179
      @martincornish3179 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Keyser_Soze739 And you my friend.

  • @TheShotokan6
    @TheShotokan6 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "with my height...". Well how tall are you????

  • @yiannishayabusaofficial
    @yiannishayabusaofficial 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    AMAZING BIKE EXELENT FANTASTIC MAGIC

  • @mickeypopa
    @mickeypopa 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never gonna let the big chap forget about Panigale, ey?
    It's gonna hang over his head forever, like a guillotine. lmao

  • @MyTruckstop
    @MyTruckstop 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My only request would be to bump up to the ZX-1400R dispacement. Keep the electronics off, it has enough, like traction control, anti lock brakes. Not many riders will ever ride hard enough to set off traction control or anti lock brakes at lean angles or even as a matter of fact ride in the rain. Read a map, it makes a person more connected to the environment. Shove the phone in a saddle bag. If I want to talk to people I will stay home and cook out. My 2010 C14 serves me well. Growing character with stone chips some small scratches with age but mechanically has never failed me. I may replace it in two years but I wont spend over 20K what 15K with saddle bags can do with a bike that not many can out run.

    • @saulramos2159
      @saulramos2159 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've had my Connie for 2 years, and I ride every day to commute to work. Is a 2016 model and it has been very reliable. I've ridden so hard that the electronics kick in to prevent any mishap. I rode during heavy rains, very hot days, and swarm of mosquitoes, and this bike is soooo good!! All the power you need on command and more. It already has 30000 miles on it and no issues at all!! I'll definitely buy another dinosaur like this.

    • @epoxeclipse
      @epoxeclipse 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The traction control is your friend. Ride this bike hard, push it and it will remind you that much throttle input can break the rear end loose. This isn't a Harley, you may need to be reminded this bike is fast and if it happens to get slick out (ride long enough end you will encounter unfavorable conditions) the abs isn't a terrible thing to have.

  • @mariosavva999
    @mariosavva999 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've had 3 Haybusa's in the past, I absolutely love them for thier old school no noncense attitude.
    But I want to tour on my next bike and I remember my ass and wrists hurting after a while in the saddle on the Busa's. So considering one of these 1400's....

    • @mariuszmajewski7299
      @mariuszmajewski7299 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just made the switch. Love the GTR

    • @Keyser_Soze739
      @Keyser_Soze739 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wisdom comes with age 😉

    • @marccopoloo966
      @marccopoloo966 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mariuszmajewski7299
      Jezdzisz jeszcze GTR?
      Jak się sprawuje?
      Takze mysle o gtr 1400 albo fjr 1300
      W Europie już ich nie sprzedają od kilku lat
      Chciałbym egzemplarz z nikomym przebiegiem

  • @myreality7817
    @myreality7817 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If that's a dinosaur what's my zx11? I wouldn't have anything else.

    • @schzx14
      @schzx14 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I still miss my beautiful 98 ZX-11. I’ve had a ZX-14 and a Concours 14. Love them all.

  • @rockyp3917
    @rockyp3917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unfair comparison between a 2009 bike Vs 2020 bikes

  • @fredoc9125
    @fredoc9125 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hey guys can you lower the volume on the background music?

  • @kevanmillar6439
    @kevanmillar6439 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Last year i brought a 1000sx performance tourer in place of my 2012 GTR I went down to the Bol Dor ( South of France) I got back from that bout 2000 miles an I’ve part x it for you’ve guessed it a GTR the sx has got all the bells and whistles I don’t need them and didn’t use them, it was uncomfortable after a few hours I won’t miss the sx,

  • @williamdeimos2354
    @williamdeimos2354 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The fact that this bike is so simple is the reason i like it... that being said it is due for an update. No need for electric suspension or rider modes. Just give it cruise control and make it lighter. Not every motorcycle needs to be a space rocket that flies itself. As far as the H2SX replacing this goes, i certainly hope not. The H2SX needs shaft drive, a way more comfortable riding position, and way more wind protection to be a replacement for a proper touring bike. Lets be honest with ourselves, the H2 is cool, but its an ego stroker, nothing more. At least not in any of it current iterations.

    • @Texarmageddon
      @Texarmageddon 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      THe H2SX is more of a sport touring bike of today's market... The C14/GTR1400 is probably more of a touring bike in today's market. It's just too slow and heavy to fit in the lot of the rest of the sport touring market.

  • @brucekendall52
    @brucekendall52 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thks guys

  • @marvinbanka7592
    @marvinbanka7592 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The less gadgets the better. I've got almost 300,000 miles on bikes and not one had cruise control. No loss.

  • @sbalak
    @sbalak 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't care about all the new fangled puff piece electronic pamper you butt goodies. This engine is proven bullet proof and works. Cheers.

  • @Kitsune3455
    @Kitsune3455 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hard to turn???? I love my Concours, and find that as long as you're doing an appropriate speed it has no trouble whipping around corners. And although cruise control would have been nice a $20 throttle locker off amazon and I was good to go. As for all the other electronics, I feel they're a bit unnecessary. But take all I say with a grain of salt, the Concours is the only bike I've ever ridden (Yes, it's my first bike. I only got my hands on it because it's a hand me down from my dad who just recently got a new bike.) so maybe it's just a personal bias of mine.

  • @kevanmillar6439
    @kevanmillar6439 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I should have added if you need all the stuff that for example the 1000sx has that’s fine personally I don’t

  • @malcolmnuttall3165
    @malcolmnuttall3165 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys seem to throw up that BMW bias a lot, yes well engineered bikes, but horrific servicing costs, and ownership issues, there is still a place for a updated GTR, put on cruise control, Kawasaki ditch the Bridgestone contract, Michelins are light years better, and connectivity system, there it's fixed.

  • @eFasser
    @eFasser 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is that's C14 in US market?

    • @purplemongoose4887
      @purplemongoose4887 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, that's the Connie here in the states.

    • @bradkister79
      @bradkister79 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes its called a Concourse here

    • @Keyser_Soze739
      @Keyser_Soze739 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is said that the Concours is 5 mph slower than a GTR 😎😉

  • @zaaltchkuaseli4439
    @zaaltchkuaseli4439 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you plz kindly provide a track name that goes on the background of the footage plz!!! nice dynamic music!

  • @k5abuser
    @k5abuser 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah but the h2 sx with bags is $28,000. Get two gtr1400

  • @kingklr1
    @kingklr1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I know how to ride a bike properly, don’t need electronic sophistication, or what I call it electronic removal of your balls.

    • @bradkister79
      @bradkister79 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jose Arevalo well said!

    • @mikebreen2890
      @mikebreen2890 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      If those electronics are cramping your style, you'll not be around long to argue the point anyway.

  • @flatearthchronicles402
    @flatearthchronicles402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you dont need gadgets it's a very fast bike not a car.

  • @christofonobrown3659
    @christofonobrown3659 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some day I hope Kawasaki comes around and builds an H2 Connie, the SX wasn’t it.

  • @scottlochans4180
    @scottlochans4180 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    GTR 1400, LOVELY, almost certain, I'd need a Concours , to. Ease the Constant ACHE of Banditaholicism, ZX14 shaft drive?, what's not to LOVE. My late beloved very very healthy 05 GSF Bandit 650 inj., March 19, had no bike Kawasaki for 27 years, Bandit Time, Times, got a PhD Masters Degree, in Bandit Torque Enjoyment only, nothing technical. At least 58, 59 times more biking joy, than in 84 my nearly new Kawa.750 turbo, and yes much,much more top end, with the turbo, but as my B.T.E.Masters Degree taught me, sod top end speeds, ALL ABOUT THE ACCELERATION. Bandit Quickly gets over 80 mph, before the red line???, 2nd gear. 4th gear 6,500 rpm., said 92 mph, True mph 89 ???, Red lines at 12,000,? What no, WHAT no, yes. PERFECT Storm of ACCELERATION, in Bandit Time, right up there with Countless Blessed High speed Kawasaki rides. Sincerely Scott Loch. Na, Professor Bandit B.T.E., only nothing technical.oh yeah, had 4 KAWASAKI Shaft drive's, all Superb.

  • @zerep11
    @zerep11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lemme see ... Kawy v. BMW ... KAWY!

  • @josemanrique458
    @josemanrique458 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only dinosaur in this video is the 3 duds reviewing it.😂

  • @johnharris7353
    @johnharris7353 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No thanks I'll tour on the ZX 14 and lose all that weight and I don't want a shaft drive and I don't need cruise control or a electric window, thank you!

    • @bradkister79
      @bradkister79 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      john harris I own a zx14 as well!

  • @kingklr1
    @kingklr1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hot, it is.

  • @josemanrique458
    @josemanrique458 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This motorcycle is the SR71 of sport tourers, not for latte drinking pansies!

  • @merigos
    @merigos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wery fast bike,who needs cruise control

  • @fkwasinger
    @fkwasinger 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you can ride for 400 miles in any direction and never see a winding road adventure bikes just don't cut it. If I were going to tour around the United States it would be on a H-D Street Glide , a Road Glide or even an Electra Glide.

    • @chasefreedom5178
      @chasefreedom5178 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      fkwasinger keep the support vehicle close by!

    • @ericomaximo4841
      @ericomaximo4841 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      kkkk nice!

    • @bradkister79
      @bradkister79 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a fact

    • @Keyser_Soze739
      @Keyser_Soze739 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We are talking about motorcycles and you start talking about what??