Thanks! You have just saved me a lot of time learning figma and all the hassle of jumping from figma to elementor. My clients are small businesses with lower budgets so wireframing inside elementor is enough for me and for them. Again - thanks so much! :)
I used to work directly with Elementor and then I started to make a static wireframe/layout with Illystrator for a couple of clients, to be more "professional", so I can say that you're right about EVERYTHING. Thank you for your video, there are very interesting advice in it. I'll back to work directly on Elementor with a lighter heart.
I like Rhino too, but I get it you have to plan it before you design it. I use a pen and paper and sketch out what I want to do and do it. I find this easier for me!
This is good idea for small sites when client don't need much. This approach was popular 15 years ago when amatures design sites live without graphic. Photoshop or any other tool gives you better control and faster changes. It's like designing a house you need a project you don't build on a go
Thanks for the material. It helped me decide whether it is worth learning designing in Figma or still designing in Elementor. I definitely prefer to design in Elementor. Regards
Hey Kaycinho, I just watched your video and I must say that it was really informative and well-made. I loved your videos. I was wondering if I could help you edit your highly engaging shorts videos for you.
One thing you didn't mention. When you work with assets, creating stuff in photoshop, treating the image, testing for better contrast, color palette, you may want to test it while in the website interface. Isn't it better to have it let's say in photoshop with the interface altogether? Wouldn't the workflow feel more organic? Or you just go testing the image dropping it in WordPress? Great content by the way. Cheers
I Agreed about way easier responsive mode with elementor besides with figma u must design 2 times and that means 2 times working, side desktop version and side mobile version.. with elementor you can instantly generate into mobile version view and fix things instantly..
Totally agreed :) One notice - if you do not change design settings like fonts, colors etc. in Elementor - you can just clone pages (at the same url) instead of the whole website and send a client links to different pages like /design1.1 /design2.1. And even if you change the design settings - you can set for good after a client choice about the design. What do you think?
@@olymp2io14 Well, e.g. you can use a duplicate plugin like "Duplicate Page". Other way is to save one page as a template, create a new one and use the template and change to a new layout. Then you have two pages with two different links to your client...
Is there any way we can replace the loop carousel arrow with a custom image? I have been trying to achieve a specific slider design, but it seems impossible with elemntor. Please make a video on this. Thank you
Hi, I worked as a web designer in India till 2012. I used photoshop HTML CSS to build a website. Now I have got a project (design a website) which is good to create a website design and host.
Great video! Question: if I build a client site with Elementor Pro, then sometime in the future, I don't renew the Pro subscription, will this affect the site?
very good bravo .....my question when i design website to client do i have to pay out my pocket for his domain and host and i hand over or he has to create his own pay with his credit and i finish the project please i really need to know
I'm a beginner to wordpress but been working with figma while coding for the past 4 years and my answer to you is: TOTALLY YES! really, waste no time with figma unless you want to learn more about wireframing since there's tons of tutorials online about it (I've only seen this guy here speaking about wireframe in elementor). But once you have an idea of what steps you need to make to create a website, then just do everything inside Wordpress elementor.
can someone explain how our design will be useful to the client, does it just used as reference and develop it using code or anything else? WHAT IS THE MAIN USE OF DESIGN WHEN YOU CANT USE IT AS WEBSITE?
Your design is supposed to solve issues for the end user (ease of finding information quickly, etc) and enhance credibility for your client. The end goal is Return On Investment for your client.
Learning Figma is a huge amount of time. Same with XD. Funny thing, you learn XD, then you decide to learn Figma. Plus you have to learn Elementor. I learn software fast, but I like the idea of not learning 2-3 apps (40-120 hours plus time to get up to speed) when I could learn 1 and just get to the point of building the site. So this feels like a solid path forward.
I'm presently learning Figma as a design tool, however, I don't understand why do web design with Figma when Elementor has all the necessary features, all the admin just to do the same thing all over again! its madness.
Figma is not designed purely as a design tool. The web or app development usually goes through several prototype stages and user tests. I work with Elementor myself when implementing websites and can't imagine being able to create wireframes efficiently with it.
Hi, excelente video!!! Have you tried the Elementor hosting? It sounds interesting, but not sure if if the best option at this moment. I am trying to find opinions.
I can produce an elementor website in 2 days if I have all the assets, and clients do not give me 200 changes. How do you let them give you modifications and text changes, what's your methods.... everyone?
There's only one reason. The projects are simple and small. If you have to do a large project, in a team and several phases to be approved from the marketing board of directors of the company, how can you do it without a design system and version control? It's not possible.
I understand what you mean, but it's actually easier than you may think. But the point of the video was more about starting straight in the browser. So that works with any cms based tools and even plug and play WP themes like Astra which is great whether you use a page builder or Gutenberg. The key is wasting the minimum amount of time in smaller / less budget projects.
Thanks! You have just saved me a lot of time learning figma and all the hassle of jumping from figma to elementor. My clients are small businesses with lower budgets so wireframing inside elementor is enough for me and for them.
Again - thanks so much! :)
I used to work directly with Elementor and then I started to make a static wireframe/layout with Illystrator for a couple of clients, to be more "professional", so I can say that you're right about EVERYTHING. Thank you for your video, there are very interesting advice in it. I'll back to work directly on Elementor with a lighter heart.
I like Rhino too, but I get it you have to plan it before you design it. I use a pen and paper and sketch out what I want to do and do it. I find this easier for me!
Hey Kaycinho! Great content. Do you run your own agency?
I thought I was the only one with this approach of working with Elementor first. Great video and excellent insights. Keep up the tremendous work.
I love the 50 / 30 / 20 payment structure. Love it!!
Thanks Mosche, it's been a total game change for me 😀
This is good idea for small sites when client don't need much. This approach was popular 15 years ago when amatures design sites live without graphic. Photoshop or any other tool gives you better control and faster changes. It's like designing a house you need a project you don't build on a go
Where ya at Kaycinho?
Thanks for the material. It helped me decide whether it is worth learning designing in Figma or still designing in Elementor. I definitely prefer to design in Elementor. Regards
Finally someone talking about this "controversy" with reference to the real world. Thank you.
Hey Kaycinho, I just watched your video and I must say that it was really informative and well-made. I loved your videos. I was wondering if I could help you edit your highly engaging shorts videos for you.
One thing you didn't mention. When you work with assets, creating stuff in photoshop, treating the image, testing for better contrast, color palette, you may want to test it while in the website interface. Isn't it better to have it let's say in photoshop with the interface altogether? Wouldn't the workflow feel more organic? Or you just go testing the image dropping it in WordPress? Great content by the way. Cheers
I Agreed about way easier responsive mode with elementor besides with figma u must design 2 times and that means 2 times working, side desktop version and side mobile version.. with elementor you can instantly generate into mobile version view and fix things instantly..
Totally agreed :) One notice - if you do not change design settings like fonts, colors etc. in Elementor - you can just clone pages (at the same url) instead of the whole website and send a client links to different pages like /design1.1 /design2.1. And even if you change the design settings - you can set for good after a client choice about the design. What do you think?
can you explain more on how to do that ?
@@olymp2io14 Well, e.g. you can use a duplicate plugin like "Duplicate Page". Other way is to save one page as a template, create a new one and use the template and change to a new layout. Then you have two pages with two different links to your client...
Thanks for the break point, really helpful!!
KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK ✌
I completely agree with you. I tried this strategy using the Divi theme.
Is there any way we can replace the loop carousel arrow with a custom image? I have been trying to achieve a specific slider design, but it seems impossible with elemntor. Please make a video on this. Thank you
Hi, I worked as a web designer in India till 2012. I used photoshop HTML CSS to build a website. Now I have got a project (design a website) which is good to create a website design and host.
Great video! Question: if I build a client site with Elementor Pro, then sometime in the future, I don't renew the Pro subscription, will this affect the site?
No, only if you want to change something and use pro tools
Can you copy the style on wirementor and then paste it on Elementor?
Absolutely agree with your workflow and ideas. I work this way too.
Yes it's a very efficient workflow :)
very good bravo .....my question when i design website to client do i have to pay out my pocket for his domain and host and i hand over or he has to create his own pay with his credit and i finish the project please i really need to know
Hi, can i ask u something? if you were a beginner would you still start with elementor and not the design tool. Waiting for ur answer.
I'm a beginner to wordpress but been working with figma while coding for the past 4 years and my answer to you is: TOTALLY YES! really, waste no time with figma unless you want to learn more about wireframing since there's tons of tutorials online about it (I've only seen this guy here speaking about wireframe in elementor). But once you have an idea of what steps you need to make to create a website, then just do everything inside Wordpress elementor.
You use bricks builder yet?
Did I miss where you showed how to let the client see the layout
This looks awesome! I’m trying to buy the Wirementor for our agency, but can’t see “buy now” button?
can someone explain how our design will be useful to the client, does it just used as reference and develop it using code or anything else?
WHAT IS THE MAIN USE OF DESIGN WHEN YOU CANT USE IT AS WEBSITE?
Your design is supposed to solve issues for the end user (ease of finding information quickly, etc) and enhance credibility for your client.
The end goal is Return On Investment for your client.
Learning Figma is a huge amount of time. Same with XD. Funny thing, you learn XD, then you decide to learn Figma. Plus you have to learn Elementor. I learn software fast, but I like the idea of not learning 2-3 apps (40-120 hours plus time to get up to speed) when I could learn 1 and just get to the point of building the site. So this feels like a solid path forward.
Lazy...
I'm presently learning Figma as a design tool, however, I don't understand why do web design with Figma when Elementor has all the necessary features, all the admin just to do the same thing all over again! its madness.
You nailed it!
Figma is not designed purely as a design tool. The web or app development usually goes through several prototype stages and user tests.
I work with Elementor myself when implementing websites and can't imagine being able to create wireframes efficiently with it.
Haven't watched the video yet but agree with the title 100%.
I love your break down
Hi, excelente video!!! Have you tried the Elementor hosting? It sounds interesting, but not sure if if the best option at this moment. I am trying to find opinions.
Hi Kaycinho,
Will there still be projects for web design as the economy is collapsing
Hey Kaycinho, can you show your client project to
Maybe in the future. I'd need a client to agree on it first 👍
What block is that using the videos in the background?
Also, when will version 2 be ready. Would love to support your work. Thx.
I can produce an elementor website in 2 days if I have all the assets, and clients do not give me 200 changes. How do you let them give you modifications and text changes, what's your methods.... everyone?
There's only one reason. The projects are simple and small. If you have to do a large project, in a team and several phases to be approved from the marketing board of directors of the company, how can you do it without a design system and version control? It's not possible.
Man interesting. Next job I’m going to try this.
5k is pretty expensive where I live
I want to start my own website development agency Can anybody share the road map from scratch ?
Would be a great help
And This video of you is of great help thanks for the Information will definately apply to my operations of the agency
Brilliant ! 😀
Right!
epic skillz.
Figma should be used to show part of your process!
Elementor is not really that great for building custom designs like in webflow or bricks but it's easier to work with premade templates or widgets
I understand what you mean, but it's actually easier than you may think. But the point of the video was more about starting straight in the browser. So that works with any cms based tools and even plug and play WP themes like Astra which is great whether you use a page builder or Gutenberg.
The key is wasting the minimum amount of time in smaller / less budget projects.
@karipos that's simply wrong :D
@@viceatlantic I had to recreate some complex layouts and the experience wasn’t great
L video