Farm Without a Tractor?
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- We have a farm without a tractor. And let me explain our future plans for buying a tractor. Sorry about the face icicles towards the end of this video. It was really cold.
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It must be alot colder over your way! I havent had any eyebrow icicles yet this year! They look good on you. Hope you guys stay safe during this upcoming storm!
I think we're at a tad higher elevation. It's definitely going to be a tough one this weekend. Batten down the hatches on New Yolk City!
Smart man staying away from debt. Debt is what causes many farms to go under.
Thank you!
You are a very smart man. Kudos to you for not buying something just because people think you should.
I just showed your comment to my wife and she only moderately agrees. She said, "why can't that smart man remember to pick up his socks and put them in the laundry?" 😜
Completely understand and agree with your points on not buying a tractor. The only thing I'd recommend, if you're ever ready to buy one, is looking at legacy tractors from the 40s, 50s, and 60s. Learning maintenance skills on these older tractors is awesome, because most of them are so simple to work on. You might be able to find one in your price range with good horsepower too. Facebook groups exist where people are looking to sell old tractors for $1000 or less. I bought a Farmall Super M in remarkable condition for $1000 cash and it has been a worthy investment from day one.
That would probably be the way I go. And it’s definitely a skill set I would like to develop.
@@GoldShawFarm if you go new you may be able to get away with sub 25 hp the new emissions systems don't like cold weather, but you'd be limited in what you could do with it. Having a poultry operation you may not need a baler but they're good for litter and you can find really old school legacy balers NH 65 and a few others that will room off of a B series Kubota. But if you want horsepower and go legacy 8ns are swimming in parts even though they're so old but they're a little shy on power too MF 135 was a good tractor too, but if you can find a good old air cooled duetz their are dirt simple. Although if you go that route you'll want an oil pan heater.
Great video Morgan, there are definitely times where I have fallen into that trap of thinking that a certain purchase, which may prove helpful in a lot of scenarios on the farm, will bring me more satisfaction. We’re with you over here in forging ahead without a tractor or any near future plans to purchase one. I appreciate you getting me thinking this morning! -Chris
Awesome!
You don’t need a tractor to plant that upper field. Just host a couple music festivals on a rainy weekend and things will get planted for you!
🤣😂🤣
Great way of thinking. In the last 14- 15 years, my wife and I have been paying off all debts. Once this house is paid for we will not have any loans. We have not used credit cards for about 10 years. It can be done, but you have to budget and stick to that budget.
Good video and hopefully many caught on.
Blessings,
Jim
Thanks, Jim. It sounds like you and your wife are on an awesome journey.
Little did Morgan know, less than two years down the road he was getting a tractor
He probably guessed.
Congratulations Rosanna! We got lucky with our tractor and bought it for a great price from my folks when they were upgrading. They do require a bit of maintenance. I applaud how you have paced yourself on plans with your farm. We did too much too fast and we are having to scramble to catch up.
That sounds like a great find!
Love your nashem. Rashional, logical, ethical, moral man of faith. A typical yidden. Thumbs ☝ to HaShem.
P.S. ask your (Gold) family - Did they 6 decades ago have a dog named iggie, who fell into quicksand upstate New York? LOL. If so, it was my older brother who jumped in to save him. Your grandmother was named Ruth?
Thank you for your inspiration. I totally agree 😃
I'm still catching up to all your videos. I'm so lucky to have found your site.
From beautiful Las Vegas Nevada 💪🙋♀️🌼
Marie Kondo meets Farmer Morgan. Great way to look at resource availability and overall cost. I really look at both you and Al's set up to get ideas on my future set up. Thanks! and go inside, your eyeballs are going to freeze.
Thank you! Good news...my eyeballs did eventually thaw out. ; )
I totally get it. You’re weighing your options and outcome. Grapes of wrath, awesome book! Have a good day!
Thanks, Leslie!
Nice video. These are all interesting points. As long as you have anything figured out with your farm you don’t really need one. If your going to be growing your farm at some point you might need one. If you come to the point where you need one I recommend a farmall m. They go from 1000 to 5000. It depends on what you get. I just found your channel and I hope to see the farm grow and become very successful for you and your family.
I would very much like to take your excellent articulation of why to *not* buy-buy-buy, bottle it up, and liberally sprinkle it on as many folks as I could. I'm thinkin' I would start with every school in the country and work up from there! ~ Kir in Tennessee
Ha...thanks. I agree that this lesson applies to all sorts of things in life and we're all guilty of falling into that trap.
I’ve just bought land, and really felt a need for a tractor-but I agree how crazy expensive they are.
The noise and fuel also bothers me but time.
Maybe when electric tractors become more realistic I might add one, but definitely not today.
This video was really helpful.
I think I needed to hear it.
You can do a lot with an ATV, you may be best investing in attachments for your ATV? Why not do a video on ATV attachments as I am not fully aware of all the possibilities?
You're 100% right. I've got a winch, snow plow and brush hog for the ATV. They cover 90% of what I need to do.
I've never thought about the ATV option, good idea
@@GoldShawFarm you could also get ground engagement attachments.
Mainly they're for hay. Wheel rake, roller bar rake, and sickle bar mowers, to name a few. People have also cut down planters to go like four foot widths.
Hi...... Morgan, thank you for sharing your video homestead chicken farmer garden 👋 bye 👋 bye 👋 🎥👍👍👍
Congratulations, you are smarter than the average farmer. My family has farmed for nine generations and the number one mistake that they always make is spending money that they don't have.
How sensible. And you will be helping your neighbours stay solvent.
All good reasons. We need a mini digger but not for enough days a year to warrant buying one, so we are making a list of all the jobs we need it for, work out how many days we need it for and will hire one.
I will say though, spending time on our 1954 £1000 tractor does make you happy 🤣
Your tractor is awesome!
Do not get into debt. You want to be independent. We do not even have a credit card. buy what you can and do without if you cannot buy it.
Thank you for framing your wants as an'itch'. That puts some, perhaps many, or even most, of my acquisition desires into perspective. Great observation!
Good advice, Lot's of people run out to fast and get in debt and then it's that much longer to see a profit. I have had a similar talk with one of my daughters you can't shop to make you happy once you buy that one thing it's something else next week when your unhappy again. YIKES!! --14 your eye lashes are frozen.. I love how you do your videos I enjoy watching.. Your cat helpers are cute.. Thank you for mention on Plain Jane.. :)
Thank you for the kind words. And congratulations on the win!
Wow! This video is so impressive! Very well thought out and well done! You are so wise for such a young man.
Be careful, you might blow up my head so big that I won't be able to go back inside the house after chores this morning. Thank you!
Very wise plan. An ATV and a utility trailer is plenty. Even for some larger livestock farms.
😂🤣 I do not like to shovel SNOW so a tractor would be a must; this is another reason why I came back to Texas from New England.
Hello from Scotland. Great points. We have never needed a tractor, nor do we have the right type of land or access to move one around. We do have a BCS two wheel tractor though and I wish I had bought it 7 years ago when we first got our farm. Not that it was cheap to buy, but eats a small amount of fuel and we have a trailer which turns the BCS into a four wheeler and helps us a whole bunch with hauling wood, soil etc. But you are so right in waiting until your 'farm' is in business mode.
Thanks!
I was distracted from the tractor discussion by the icicles on your face (nice eyelashes BTW), I have never experienced that kind of cold weather, that is wild!
Good for you for actually having a p/l stmt!
So glad to see the cats inside,especially since it was so cold. I must have missed that contest, lol. Plain Jane is a great name though! I think you are very wise to defer the idea of a tractor. They are a big expense and if you can not maintain them yourself, then that is an added expense. When the time is right,I am sure you will be able to find a tractor that suits your needs,by waiting you will have a better idea what those needs are.
Well said! And don’t worry...more contests coming soon!
Love the hemp idea.. now that it's almost legal
I cry w happiness for what u are attempting. More ppl should care so much
I’m glad you let the cats in on such a cold night. Yea, yea, yea, on the tractor. But, don’t you have really big snow storm coming? What is your business plan for snow? I imagine the exercise plan for walking in hip deep snow will get old in a hurry. At least it would for me.
This weekend should definitely be a cold and snowy one! We’ll probably bunker down inside. As far as the business plan for the snow...it’s been really hard. Given how quickly the eggs freeze, I can’t see that being a feasible part of our winter business plans. I love the winter exercise. A trudge to the top of pasture in 18” of snow makes me strong like ox!
Maybe a pair of snow shoes would be cheaper and safer for Morgan to use and he can still get the exercise he desires. 👍
Glad to see u thinking this out. Good to see u grow.
Just watched this video. The comment you made on happiness really hit home. Thanks. Watch you every week. Keep it up.
Thank you!
Really liked your reasons.
That's definitely some good reasons. If you're not ready for one don't get one. I don't think we would need one. There are times it would be useful for sure, but I don't think we would use it regularly enough to need it. A backhoe maybe more important here because we're going to be doing a lot of digging.
Good discussion.👍
I have one project planned this year where I'm renting an excavator from a friend of mine for a whole week. A ton of digging to do!
I think it's a great plan. One thing that I'm learning in planning our land is, we cant try to do what other people are doing or we will go bankrupt before we even start! Always do what is right for you and your farm. Sometimes bartering or paying for services temporarily is better for you and your neighbors than going into debt for something that will gather dust most days. Great video!
Well said! You need to do what works for you. And it’s always better to trade vs buy!
You are spot on with every point! We've been "homesteading" without a tractor for 8 years now and we could have used a tractor a few times but it just didn't make sense. I got a comment on our last video asking why i didn't use my tractor to pull a fence post out of the ground. I think the guy missed the whole point to the video. I built a tool (for free) that would do the same thing a tractor would do... for free! Besides there was no way to get a tractor into that area anyway. You may "want" a tractor but do you "need" a tractor?
Exactly! And like The Rolling Stones said, you get what you need.
I enjoy how you outline what does sustainable mean for you-especially the emotional aspect. I can get excited about things and do things in a way where I sprint and then I'm tired for the marathon... "slow and intentional" are my words for the year in an effort to change this. And I can't believe you mention grapes of wrath! I was thinking about re-reading it in light of my new knowledge and passion for agriculture... might have to find it and dust it off! haha. great video! - Natalie
Definitely read it. I had the same thought and I got so much more out of the book on this read vs. when I was 15.
That's right, baby steps. If at some point it makes more sense to get one then that will be the right time.
Thank you!
Fun watching this morning. Sorry you can't get a tractor yet. Yes it would make a few things easier. But they are very expensive and right now it would be very difficult to make payments. I don't know your situation money wise but going debt free is very good way to go. Good vlog ducks are fun take care be safe!
Thank you!
Morgan, you're logic for not buying a tractor is very sound and I know you put a great deal of thought into the decision. A lot depends on the kind of farming you intend to do and things like age and physical needs. I retired at 63 after a job that wasn't very physical. I bought 20 acres and half is cleared and used for farming and chickens. I found I just couldn't keep up with grass cutting, bush hogging, tilling and other physical things so 2 years into this I bought a small John Deere 1025R. Yes, it's a riding mower on steroids and I catch all sorts of flak from the farmers around here with "real tractors" but my JD does everything I need and relieves me of the demanding physical work I just can't do on my own. When you finally get one you will discover more and more uses for it and you'll appreciate having it handy. So don't rush in to buying one because a farm "has to have a tractor". It doesn't but they sure are fun! lol
Horse or mule team? Or for versatility as well as attachments I'd say a skid steer (Popularly referred to by one company name "Bobcat").
Hemp is such a useful plant, just as a paper alone its such a big conservation plant. oil, textiles, just on and on! Great plan!
You can also rent a tractor when needed, also if you need a different attachment, what a pain! often it seems like a backhoe is more useful. which again you can rent. Great video! keep em coming!
You're spot on about the attachment. Most of the corn infrastructure one friend has will work, but there are a few specialized things for planting and harvest that I am working on locating. Thank you!
ps proud of todays video, wanted to say the same thing to him many times but think he needs to hear it from a white man, good job.
gr8 music man,, oh ang btw i laughed my belly out on the story with the south african crazy guy carrying the "bonet"!:)
Sheesh I need your mindset for my purchases. This actually helped me realize that my thought process is currently in that cycle. I need to rethink some things. BTW kudos to you for staying outside for so long to film this video. Depending on the number of takes I can't imagine how long you were outside for. Be safe this weekend. Not sure how much snow you're expected to get on the east side but here on the west side it is quite significant 10"-12" and with temps getting no higher than 0 it is going to be rough.
Yeah...it’s going to be a tough weekend. Time to stay inside and be toasty and enjoy the winter.
You had me laughing pretty hard... when you started doing what I am going to call “the rubber ducky dish dance”! 😂😂 Great moves! 😂😂
If you need a tractor, may I suggest that you rent one. You don’t need to do the maintenance and upkeep!
I love that...the rubber ducky dance. Renting is totally the way to go for us given how little we need a tractor.
Ugh, Morgan! Now I feel like I should give Steinbeck another chance. I tried again with Billy Budd a few years ago, and that was a disaster. Then again, I reread The Scarlet Letter in college after hating it in high school and loved it. Maybe this experience will be more Hawthorne, less Melville...
I got so much more out of it this time around. I remember being very bored by the imagery/non-Joad chapters when I was a kid. They might be my favorite part. A lot of the content about agriculture also bores me back then, now I found it incredibly prescient.
Well thought out rationale........ Unless someone is practically giving away a tractor........ At some point you will need a tractor.......At some point you will need a tractor..... Good luck finding that decision point!
Amazing lesson to be learnt us all, we need to break that cycle of want. why put ourselves in more debt. I would love to have my very small farm for eggs and meat. Just for the family not selling the meat n eggs. But I would love to have my own very small vegetable garden. We just signed the deed today for this council house we are already living in. We got a huge discount on a scheme. Whatever rent we have already paid went towards the house. I already planted coriander in the kitchen in a tiny pot. I already own 2 cacti, which are thriving because its in the , but they are growing out of the pot. I have already changed to a bigger size, next size up & I cannot keep it in the window sill. he has already planned to get an extension to the kitchen and conservatory. He said I can put my cacti on it and any other greens i want to grow,. Being disabled I wont be able to grow anything in the back garden, but I could possibly have a small green house that may prevent my veggies from freezing.
Tractors do make alot of things easier such as mowing, moving heavy items, plowing, etc.
If I think of something for years and eventually it consumes my thoughts often, I know buying it will scratch that itch and it wasn’t impulsive. I knew I truly wanted it and could see it as an investment, especially if it was a more costly purchase. This way it forces me to do lots of research before hand (which could apply to cost and getting a good deal), and in the cases of a learning curve of use or knowledge, I already have a baseline and put in the time ahead of when I need to learn and apply it. Otherwise doing lots of research could be the deterrent I need to learn enough that it’s not for me or I get bored of it or it’s just not the right time in my life to have it yet, etc.
need a sled for ur buckets! Stay warm!
I've tried. They tip over as soon as I hit a rough patch.
Great philosophy and decision.
Thank you!
Aw man I'm so jealous I didn't think of this video idea haha but I am not jealous of the icicles hanging off your eyelashes. Nice vid Morgan!
Also grapes of wrath is one of my favs. I felt the same way after reading the part about the tractors impact on the land it people becoming more detached
Dude! I would love to see your take on this topic.
Gold Shaw Farm ok I’ll put it into my ‘idea bucket’ and circle back to it in a couple months when I bust out my tiller
At times, your eyelashes looked as though they were about to break off in the severity of the cold weather! :O Love your videos! Please keep them coming! :D
I can’t get pass your eyelashes and eyebrows with the icicles. Up in MI it’s not even that cold.
Ha! Thanks. I find that below -10 is the faceicle freezing point.
Hi I’m new here. Washington farm guy. Question? Why not put the ducks in the barn where it may be less windy, maybe warmer, water and food convenient, and it’s a barn.
Security. Although my duck house proved to be penetrable, the barn is even worse. Plus, the bale insulation makes a massive difference.
Ahh yes yes Washington farm guy. Your a good city worker turned part time farmer. I guess if you’re not loosing livestock to Canadian like winters you’re good.
I’ve been traveling to Vermont, NH, North Conway, Maine for 27 years. I LOVE IT there! It’s heaven when you are. The world is lifted off my shoulders when I’m there. I get it.
Morgan
U are the best person .a teacher I got to know your kids and children.
Guess which is which..
A test
No no mammals
Well done my friend!
I came to the future You will buy a tractor!
Totally respect what you guys are doing, but I think you will find that having the right machine for the job can never be overestimated. Can you do stuff with your ATV? Sort of but it will be very limited. It simply does not have the weight or power you need to farm and maintain your fields. To be self-sustaining in the Northern Kingdom it is critical to be very efficient. That's where the right equipment comes in. It is also to realize that burn out is way higher when you have to relay on a lot of manual labor. Anyway, if you ever get a tractor, I can show you how to maintain it for free! Peace.
I might take you up on that offer someday!
Good food for thought Morgan
Thanks!
I cook the frozen eggs and feed them back to the chickens, Happy Farming. Hows the compost? Mine is still steaming hot even though it's 10F during the day. I don't have the money for a tractor yet either, old vehicles work well.
Compost is OK. Now that I've been turning it with a pitchfork, I've noticed that it's a little warmer. I wouldn't say it's steaming, but it's not frozen solid anymore.
@@GoldShawFarm Awesome!
So collecting the period thing and feeding it back?
Oh god.
Reason #1 was good enough for me. Putting yourself in debt is setting up for failure. 32° in Florida this morning.
Ouch. Stay warm down there!
Him also: I don't plan on getting a dog. See how that turned out. 😆
I do alot with my little mower but not in the winter..
Ha! Definitely not mower season.
@@GoldShawFarm I use a big wheel barrow for the barn..we have bucks, chickens, goats and pigs. We do the deep method and clean out on the nice days right now..
Good morning Morgan!!!
Good morning!
I love duck eggs soo yummy!! Such a good video!! We started into farming 6 years ago for us it included hay. So for us a tractor is very important. I won't go into detail but basically my husband is a college graduate mechanic it was his contribution to helping the family as a 5th generation farmer. We recently purchased 2 tractors to rebuild example one is Model A John Deere.. we are talking don't run but soo cheap didn't create debt. Plus over time we can get them going again as we can without creating debt. We have the ability to rebuild them so it works for us. For the past 6 years we have leased and borrowed neighbors and family equipment. The best part is we know for us newer isn't better we can't repair all the electrical stuff without $$$ so we will stay antique. The best equipment and most reliable has been the older equipment. We can maintain the only downside is getting creative and finding parts once in a while.
I’m jealous. I would love to improve my mechanic skills. It would be so incredibly useful.
@@GoldShawFarm yeah I wish I could improve my skills. I have been out on the field raking hay and had silly mechanical issues. Called the husband he had to leave work drive 30 minutes help me for like 2 seconds then 30 minutes back to work... I feel so bad when that happens.
a tractor is an aid. I remember tales of 1 of my great grandfathers. he wouldn't allow even a mule into a garden he double dug. at 92 he double dug 9 gardens; at 93 he did slow down just 2. a tractor is just a tool, if not needed an excess expense.
Whoa! That’s impressive. I aspire to be like that when I’m 93!
All good points. You've obviously thought this through.
I'd add one more - the decisions made for your farm are yours, not the YT viewers.
Also, the eyelashes & brows, very Martin Short as Jack Frost. 😎
Ha ha ha...Martin Short!
@@GoldShawFarm Now that I've had some coffee (hehe), I'm really thinking your point to utilize the community resources around you is THE key to the whole conversation. On my property, a tractor would be over kill, and our lawn tractor does just fine for what we need it for. And, our neighbor, an excavator, has any piece of big equipment we would need and has, several times, told us to just let us know whenever we need to use anything.
As I've mentioned before, finding/building community is where the future of modern homesteading is at.
Good word. Thanks
Thank you!
Very smart
I have a small tractor. I bought a new Yanmar with a loader. It costed way less than the hernia operation i had in 2013. Just sayin'.
Starting to look like Jack Nicholson at the end of The Shining. 🤣😂
you should take the frozen eggs and crack them and gift them to the cats the protein will help keep cats warmer and more energy
That's where most of them go. The barn cats love 'em and will always eat them before they freeze.
Love the scarecrow name
All credit to Rosanna!
My wife loves your eyebrows.
Ha ha ha
Stay away from debt.I used to raise bottle calves had 100 going at one time an beef cows used a hay dolly for round rolls. Didnt get a tractor until i went into the dairy buisness even then i leased the dairy owned my cows only owned one tractor one manure spreader. When i retired i owed no one a great feeling
I'll share and I promote you. I am a champion for helping our earth.tara
Did u say u wanted to get to the eggs before they quack or before they crack becuz it was so cold??? {At :40}
First of all don't buy a tractor now. When u r making money
Start with an ferguson tea20 usually cost a thousand dollars for a decent one
Only 20hp but it is all you need to start out
You always need to get the hang of using a tractor before bying one
Loads of attachments that are cheap to buy Link box ,plough etc
Upgrade when u get fed up and need a bigger one but keep the Ferguson for odd jobs
Frankly, I don't understand why you don't have a going-to-the-mailbox tractor, a back-pasture tractor, and naturally, a Tractor Parade tractor.
OK...that's an argument I can understand. The fact that I don't have a Tractor Parade tractor is pretty egregious.
-14? in freezenheit, i mean Fahrenheit? Brr!
And one can *visibly see* the frost on you face grow as you are talking to us. wow.
Yup. That's life in Northern Vermont. Luckily we've got a couple of months of perfect weather.
B is boys.. big toys
We barter for the big tracker the farmer has next door.
Toys for big Boys..
of course you will get a tractor.. and a snowblower.. and ATW
Dont say now , just go get some :D
Not just a pretty face, ha! 😁
Buy a Massie Ferguson 35. Any years from 1950's through the 90s. Cost between 3k to 7k. You dont need a 50k tractor to farm. Maintenance cost... LOL I owned a 1957 model for 20 years. Spark plugs, wires, and oil changes are about the only cost involved. Tractors let you do more work faster. YOu dont realize right now what you "Can" use one for that you "could" do faster.
I'll look into that! Can you still find the parts?
@@GoldShawFarm parts are everywhere. There were millions of those models made. Probably the most widely used tractor to this day on planet earth.
but next year ..
Get a simple old 8n parts and tractors are cheep.
6-10-20 I'll be!,60. Have hands did 50 race .love my wife.have started raising ducks. More later
Sorry did. 50 races
Shoot.
Big boys bigger toys
No need to buy a tractor you can hire it for a day or two .
Your tractor reasoning is sound.
awwwwwwww i like waving wanda better lol
Ha...sorry...thank for playing, Tammy. There will be some other fun contests coming in the future.
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4:32 the video is still 10 min😂