She only came forward because she thought she might get implicated. If Lori and chad hadn’t told her to lie, she would still be silent. And she publicly went around before this court appearance telling everyone she went to the police, not that she waited 10-12 days, after lying, and not until she recorded that call did she call the police. There’s also the other call she made some rando from Facebook, 6 months before the kids bodies were found and she is very flippant about the kids being dead.
Defense attorney feeling the need to ask Melanie exactly what room she stayed in (at Lori's home) vs. where her boyfriend stayed? How, exactly, is that relevant to anything other than attempting to smear her character?
Pam Smith Defense attorney is trying to place JJ with Lori. Mel G is in Tylee’s room, her bf David is in JJ’s room. When Alex brought JJ home David testified JJ was put into Lori’s bedroom. Defense will blame Lori and Alex. All three are guilty though they’ve already taken care of Alex. Melanie was a convenient stooge.
@@donnaballenger5719 If you are sleeping together and are not married (especially with children involved) you will be told to stop and if you don't, you will be kicked out of the Mormon church.
im guessing it probably had something to do with her being a teenager and not having any interest in being friends with her mom's friends, as that would not be very cool. but i also think she was probably a somewhat difficult teen, likely as a result of her mother's shenanigans. who really knows though? im also curious about what all of their private relationships were like.
Alina Vaysfligel Good point. Also maybe poor Tylee wasn’t buying into this cult and their religious beliefs so anyone that befriended her Mum & Chad and followed this cult she probably held a resentment against. This is probably what made her mother kill her!?! 😢
@@irishdeetalks yes i agree with that! Tylee may have thought that Melanie was just another nut job coming into their life. i think Tylee was more mature than her mom, she was at that age where she wasn't all lovey-dovey with Lori anymore, and she had already witnessed a lot of evil (including the murder of her step-dad). i think all those factors played a role in her murder.
Alina Vaysfligel It’s so sad, most girls that age are slightly rebellious against their parents. Tylee came across as a loving caring teenager but her rebellious side may have came out when her so called mother started with her cult nonsense and as you said, she witnessed the MURDER of Charles. What a burden for such a young girl to have to carry. Lori is they type of C**t (4 give me 4 using that word) but the type that NO ONE speaks against her & her wacko beliefs. I can’t imagine the fear she must have felt in her last moments of life 😢 .
@@pancakesatthedisco8088 yes, each extremely uncomfortable during the playing of the tape. I thought at one stage they were both going to get up and leave.
Yes, just listening to Melanie describe JJ having to sleep on mattress in the corner of Lori's bedroom is heartbreaking. It's so emotional and those poor children had no one they could trust...I can't imagine.🌹🌹
Towards the end of the phone conversation you can hear chad breathe out in aggregation then he gives his two cents. He just wanted Lori minus her kids, plus Charles life insurance money. Telling Melanie there are people after her. I'm glad chads ass is sitting in that chair.
And Lori was too blind to see it, it’s sad that ppl try to look for pleasure elsewhere and think the grass is greener. She coulda saved her marriage and been a great mother. Smh
Plus you can hear a pencil on paper, probably Chad telling Lori what to say. Lori is so annoying. Likes to over talk people and her voice is loud and sharp. I could not be around someone like that. I hope she chooses to go on the stand for her trial. Nuts all the way.
Usually, you give the benefit of the doubt before taking action when it comes to someone you care about. Otherwise, the police would indeed receive far too many inquiries
She was all wrapped up I'm it herself. She only started cooperating with the police when she saw they weren't giving up and she needed to save her own butt
Except if you listen to the recorded call it's obvious she was not part of knowing the wearabouts of JJ. When you hear what Lori and Chad say to her back it's even further proof she didn't know of criminal activity at all.
222radar priors improper use of mic is on purpose!! As long as hes been lawyer,& educated supposedly,you know he is smart enough to talk into it! He just wants & intends to aggravate ppl,make the judge have to tell him how to use it! Prior wants & tries to bully,control,manipulate everyone he can-just to aggravate,harrass! Like his client!!
His whole conversation; disgusting. He starts saying, "My sister-in-law..." She's like "I don't know her..." Chad says, "Oh I know.." WHAT? I think they knew she was going to call.
Melanie's testimony and phone call to the accused, was probably the most impressive circumstantial evidence given in the whole court case. What a harrowing court case.
My husband actually has a chad daybell toad chin 🤮 Thats why he grows a goatee & mustache. He’s quite attractive with facial hair though 🤣 I told him PLEASE never shave again 🤣
Yes and there are some of Daybells cult nuts are still out there Melanie best watch out after Recording that phone call wich may help to put these two evill devils away for a long time the FBI or LE needs to give her some protection before the trial she is going to be a great witness for the prosecution
I can’t blame her even though I admit I would like to. Lori didn’t show that she was going off off he deep end, at least not for a while. In my opinion Lori and Chad are sociopaths and narcissists
It’s obvious that she is correcting herself and not talking about dark spirits etc. She is protecting herself from looking crazy herself. She was in deep.
Listen to her HOURS of TV interviews and it’s BEYOND DOUBT she is as much of a SOCIOPATH as they are, she’s just SMARTER and more articulate- TERRIFYING!
It’ll. Be interesting to see how Lori explains going from I want to give JJ to Kay to “I gave JJ to Kay”- to Kay wants to kidnap JJ. Hugh? That in itself makes no sense!!
Absolutely. I’ll never understand why she couldn’t just give him to her like she said, if she didn’t want to take care of him which she clearly didn’t 😓
I have only just learned of this sinister case and am now here after listening to what is happening in court , two years on. The sheer wickedness of Lori and Chad's murderous plan in the guise of religion is truly sickening and evil. Seeing Kay and Larry sitting behind that creep Chad, totally dumbstruck hearing that awful recording, broke my heart. They were right all along, knowing that the children were in danger, especially little JJ. How they restrained themselves in not leaping across the seats and throttling him, is beyond me! For the record, Melanie was definitely next on their hit list. I only wish she had gone to the police sooner. Our gut feeling is never wrong. I hope with all my heart that all those murdered by this twisted pair get justice.
@@Tess-163 So true, the niece is really something else! Thankfully her first husband survived the attempt on his life. How on earth do this many murderous sicko's all find each other?
I thought you meant MELANI, Lori's niece earlier. Yes, you are right! She would have killed Melanie Gibbs for testifying or to prevent her testifying that JJ was not with her, then blamed her for JJ's disappearance. Wow! What a serial killer! She may have done the same to Kay.
she got off completely cause of her testimony but i agree with you. alot of them should have been charged! its infuriating watching her. iv seen her interview with the police, nate eaton etc. she is loving every minute of the attention, smiling and having a great old time. the worst part imo is her actually preaching her religious bs. how dare she!!!
-49:48 " I'm sorry judge I heard some voices in the corner" then asks Mrs. Gibb if she's been diagnosed with an auditory disorder. ( Sleezy guy is really playing games with witness)
@You Mad Bro not once did I call him dumb. He is portraying himself that way as a tool. I recognize that. But his acting/rouse/plan comes across heavy with insincerity and therefore may not be as effective as he is intending. That is my impression and I don’t need for you to see things the same as I do with your own impression. To each their own.
@You Mad Bro I’ve worked 40 years with defence lawyers and know exactly what he was up to. If it had been a full trial before a jury he would have looked to them as a goose. This witness held her own and outshone him almost entirely throughout this long cross examination. The witness freely admitted that she had told the police a lie, had been used by her girlfriend, was very troubled by it and quickly corrected it by contacting the police. Any jury would believe all she said, a credible witness for the crown.
@@patriciafoster3347 You know this how, exactly? Most of us here see a big trash bag on the side of the highway and think *OMG a body!* Other non true crime watchers think trash bag. 😂 Melanie isn’t binging crime shows, and looking for ‘clues’ or side eyeing her friends. Cognitive dissonance would stop her from immediately suspecting her friends of mvrder.
You know it finally dawned on me Lori was going to blame all of this on Melanie Gibb!! If Melanie said she had JJ than eventually Lori would say she had him and that Lori had no idea where JJ was.
@@StellaFl if this were true, lori would've signaled that out in the recorded conversation. She called her out on dating her boyfriend before her own divorce went through.....so no...she didn't know what was going on.
@Mango Roxx that's not true. There was a case one time, a while ago, where a man if I'm remembering correctly, raped and murdered his step daughter. She was very young if memory serves, and when the inmates found out what his charges were, they cornered him, beat him senseless, and then carved her name into his forehead. That way every time he looked at himself, he would remember her. Not every man or woman in jail/prison is a heartless, selfish piece of garbage.
That's funny u say that my brother was in there he said there one thing u don't do is hurt or murder a child they will take care of him Chad better be worried some of those inmates in there don't care
@@kristinatidwell6563 probably soot or ink from a pen. I have two tattoos on my left hand that we're done "prison style" which was basically burning a candle with cardboard or paper around it to collect the soot from the flame, and then the soot was put into water and mixed together.
@@dollymadison2397 no she does not.. she's a conspirator and she's complicit believing that she also was a chosen one over other human lives you Jesus Christ of latter-day saints need to wake up there is no 144,000 chosen people. Get with reality these are evil evil evil people
I still believe both Melanie’s should spend some time in jail. Especially her niece, she needs to go away for song time and never see her children again. That’s for showing up with Alex after being trespassed. She was given immunity to testify at Lori’s trial and turned around and watched Brandon’s testimony so she couldn’t testify. Time for jail.
@H A R strange to me that she supposedly knew nothing about the kids but her choice of words were "are you nervous" why would that be what she asked him?
During the interview, they asked Melanie when was the last time she saw JJ and she said that it was late in the evening when she, Lori, Chad, and David were doing a podcast at Lori's home. JJ supposedly has been with Alex and he came in carrying JJ supposedly asleep. Melanie did not see JJ the next morning even though she stayed the night at Lori's house. Instead Lori said that she called Alex to come get JJ because he was climbing all over the cabinets and refrigerator. For one thing, wouldn't Melanie hear this ruckus if he was getting into so much that morning? I believe that when Melanie saw Alex carrying in a "sleeping" JJ that he was probably already dead and that they were waiting for Melanie to leave before they buried the body. They may have even planned for this to happen that way so Melanie would see JJ and think at that point he was okay. That would also help Chad, Lori, and Alex's timeline and alibi. What also bothers me is that neither Chad nor Lori have shown one ounce of grief that these children were found dead and especially the manner in which they were found.
Paul--I, too, immediately wondered about "asleep in Alex" arms. Lori's voice , hearing the Bible read that way and so much more. ....nobody years before had any bad vibes about Chad or Lori?
Paul Johnston I think he was either dead or drugged when Alex carried him in. They just wanted Melanie to see him. I bet after Melanie and David were asleep Alex came back and got JJ. I fact the cell pings show Alex at Chads farm during the night. Tylee was already dead and burned by then.
Yes. It makes my stomach churn to hear an unsincere or even a nonchalant "I love you". That's not something you should say lightly or just in passing; it cheapens it. I notice women say it to their girlfriends all the time and it makes me cringe
I don’t think, when they get arrested for capital murder with special circumstances, that there will be a trial. They’ll cop a plea to a lesser charge to take the death penalty off the table. There won’t be a trial.
One of Chad's 'prophesies' at least will come true. In his own recorded words saying he was 'told' his life would be split into two halves.First half = freedom. Second half = prison.
Many will be surprised when he walks out unpunished. They can’t prove he’s done anything, no evidence, other than the kids were on his property buried. However, he wasn’t on his property then and they found Alex’s phone pings only being there. He is going to claim he knew nothing about it and get off with it. He’s going to turn on Lori before it’s over.
@@pamelamorris3148 He texted his soon to be deceased wife Tammy on that very same day and time frame - bragging that he had just shot and buried a Racoon.
@@pamelamorris3148 can't possibly get away with his evil wife's Lorie dead children on his property , and poor healthy Tammy suddenly dies , then bad dumbbell collects his wife's insurance, marries evil Lorie within weeks, honeymoons in Hawaii with the insurance claim, I mean u can't make this stuff up! It's all fact!
He won't be in prison long...they are aiming for a death penalty in his case and I for one hope he gets it. Why waste good money on keeping him in jail with free dental care, doctor's care, food and drink, entertainment and so on and so forth and all at our (the taxpayers) expense.
I’ve listened to this call several times and it’s just now I caught Lori threatening Melanie’s life when she said you know a lot about the situation and you’re going to be held accountable. If I was Melanie I would have been terrified from that call up until the moment both Chad and Lori were behind bars.
@@justmissjamey I learned while following the Watts case, that even years after the case is "closed" new charges can be brought against people suspected of a crime. They can very very possibly be charged with murder at a later date. Remember; this is just the start of what's sure to be a very long and drawn out process.
It's what all narcissists say as an apology. They never actually apologize for their wrongful actions. They transfer their guilt onto the person they've harmed.
I think Melanie only recorded the call and seemed like she was questioning them to cover her own back, she knew what they had done to those kids and she knew the net was closing in. She just tried to save her own skin, awful people make me sick. I hope Chad and Lori burn in hell for what they have done
The call bewtween her and Lori is like two snakes in a pit. Really disturbing to hear them both being like that. What did Melanie gain from lettig them murder people?
Except if you listen to the recorded call it's obvious she was not part of knowing the wearabouts of JJ. When you hear what Lori and Chad say to her back it's even further proof she didn't know of criminal activity at all.
@@estellepatella2520 my thoughts exactly. And I think she had feelings for Chad. She is shady and knows more than she is leading on. I can't believe how many people in comments trust her
Melanie is a snake for sure. She’s being self serving and righteous when she hasn’t lived a godly life either. She 100% was leading them to say things and then didn’t get what she wanted out of it.
@@pamelamorris3148 no one has lived a "godly life". Stones and glass houses...the taped conversation between the women proves she didnt know anything. Lori would have shoved it in her face otherwise.
I agree!! Also, Chad is describing Tammy being sick, I think Tammy figured out Chad was having an affair with Lori. And she was devastated! Tammy was a librarian at the school, raised 5 children and was disrespected by this jerk Chad. On another video , I learned that Chad would make fun of Tammy for no reason in front of the children, and they would also laugh at their mother. Infuriating that they are all defending their father!!
Chad and Lori told him that Tammy turned dark and than turned into a zombie. Shortly after she was dead. Melanie knew what that meant. She knew all of it.
@Swervin’ In My Lane mental illness but mostly "full of the devil",& just works of the flesh! A lot of times the devil is blamed for stuff that was just pure rotten human!!
It takes a psychotic criminal defense attorney like Prior to defend an equally depraved criminal like the toady Chad. Lori the Black Widow left a trail of dead bodies from Chandler/Gilbert Arizona to Freemont/Madison county Rexburg , Idaho to keep a task force of LEO's busy for the next 3 years. Just glad the judge kept the bond at million, Lori is a very dangerous POS that would without a doubt eliminated more people if she wasn't incarcerated. I'm fairly sure Gibbs knows how close she came to being dead, if they hadn't slapped the cuffs on the black widow. Eventually the toad is going to fold and spill all the beans once other serious charges are added to his current list. Idk, it just seems like she (Lori)may have done something along the same line before, she's a hell of a master manipulator.
I can't quite put my finger on the look Chad gives Melanie as she comes off the stand. It isn't disdain. It isn't contempt. It isn't hatred. It isn't anger. It looks like FEAR. He KNOWS he is screwed. I don't think the Woodcocks had heard this phone call prior to it being revealed in court. The expressions on their faces, the amazement listening to the phone call and the horror, the understanding that the man sitting in front of him was involved in killing their grandson. I would NOT have the self-control they exhibit. I would have jumped over that railing and smacked him into next month. I would have gone to jail for contempt for a few days but it would have been worth it. Unbelievable.
Very astute observation. You are right. At his core, Chad is a coward. And a bully. Suddenly, this mild mannered petite woman has immense power over him. He failed at his manipulation and persuasion with her. A woman of real moral character who recorded him and went to police with the evidence. It is fear. I feel so sad for the Woodcocks. This was Kay's little grandson and she raised him as a baby. She thought JJ was in good hands with Charles Vallow, who was a good man, solid guy, such a good father for both kids. Then this evil triad, decimates Charles, JJ, Tylee, Tammy... a trail of death. Such a huge waste of good lives. I don't know how Larry sits there behind Chad and holds back.
Defense Attorney: I'm sorry judge, I heard some voices in the corner, and I, it distracted me. I apologize. Defense Attorney moments later: You've never been medically diagnosed with an auditory disorder? He's a piece of work. It was so quiet in there, you could hear a flea fart.
Google William Shatner playing lawyer character Denny Crain. Lol these are exactly the same "tactics" mr Pryor is using The reselmblance is uncanny as well lol
@@MariettaFarley Alex Cox's (Lori's bro) autopsy reads that he died of Bilateral Pulmonary Thromboemboli and Hypertensive Cardiovascular Disease. In simpler terms, heart failure and blood clots. Alex's death is the only death that isn't under suspicion or investigation, so far. I do wonder if karma and/or the stress of it all played a role in his sudden demise.
It amazes me how Lori lies. She can’t open her mouth without another whopper falling out. I guess goddess’s aren’t held to the same standard as everyone else, you know, thou shalt not lie… 😳
I feel so badly for the Grandparents, Lori's son, and most of all for the kids that were murdered. When Lori says on the recording that JJ is safe and happy, I spit my coffee out thru my nose. What a crock of bull. I really hope we get to see this trial online , and I hope for Justice in the outcome.
I heard that saying someone is "safe and happy" is something that people of the LDS faith say when referring to someone who has passed and is in heaven. The whole case is just disgusting.
Is the grandfather the guy with the big string of beads around his neck? At the end of the short doc I just watched he had a bizarre simile & look in his eyes when Lori was leaving the courtroom (she was smiling too.) Is he also an LDS cult member?
@@cristineconnell7803 Glad someone else is voicing that fact. If LDS, Inc., wasn't such a weird religious cult, there wouldn't be all of these murderous offshoots like these weirdos and the FLDS polygamists, etc.
If you think she’s DIABOLICAL here you must watch her 2 hour TV interview! She’s a pure SOCIOPATH and should be in prison herself - she KNEW JJ was in incredible DANGER from their “delusions” of him as a ZOMBIE and she did NOTHING to SAVE that little Boy then LIED knowing they’d done something very Bad to him at the VERY LEAST!!
@forpetessake3532 I don't disagree. I've testified in court and just from a nerves perspective I was a hot mess....and it wasn't anyone I knew was job related. I couldn't hold it together. She knows much more than she let's on.
This right here is just an example of why I could never practice law how this defense attorney acts towards Melanie is just ridiculous. I could never sit there and defend somebody like them because in the end there going to be jailed for a very long time. I promise you that I know there's always the saying innocent before proven guilty but everybody knows they're not innocent. The defense attorney needs to just go ahead and count this as an L 👌 Also might I point out that the fact that the defense attorney just straight-up tried to act like she had some kind of disorder because she couldn't recall an event from two years ago is absolutely rude and out of order
People said Casey Anthony would die in jail too and look at how that went. As sideways as the world has gone, as much as I want them both to die in prison, I'm not counting any chickens.
But what about those kids who were wrongly imprisoned for raping for a girl in the park. They needed someone to fight for them and the system failed them. They weren’t guilty and their lives were wasted in jail for a decade.
She really does indeed ! I sure don't know if I would've been able to keep composed like her, if that condescending jerk was cross examining me in that off manner...🙄
The defense attorney and Chad Daybell look alike. However, Chad’s attorney, looks like a slightly older version of him. It’s pretty freaking creepy 💀💀💀👽👽👽 ~ The Walking Dead, Aliens!
I thought the same thing! Chad keeps his lips pursed tight together more so they roll out,someone called him fish lips!! I hope they read everything everyone says about them!!
@@nsxpetes Yeah, the fact that she DID lie about missing children seals it for me. She’s saving her ass. But I do believe what she is saying because of the CYA recording she made.
@@peggyreely8339 yes what did Lori find so attractive about this ugly toad? I know looks are not everything but he hasnt got a personality either? Do you think he was next on the list to die?? Maybe its hitting him ...she only wanted me for money... 😝
😂😂Chad the Chinless, I believe you mean. He is actually retrognathic in his mandible. My first husband was as well, thankfully, none of our children got his gene, it's not very attractive and quite "turtley"🐢...however, a person's demeanor greatly influences my opinion of them, that being said, Chad could have the MOST chiseled chin and he would STILL be abhorrent.
It’s melanie’s moment. They screwed her over and now she can get the ultimate revenge by turning on them and releasing evidence. She was in love w that Chad and thank Hod he went for Lori instead. They’re so disgusting. Murdering those innocent children.
Ms. Gibb can remember Chad's phone number as well as certain details with conversations yet, she can't remember Lori's address, a home she often. I always felt that Melanie never been 100 percent truthful. This woman was close to Chad & Lori as well as brought people to there congregation meetings! I'm not buying the sweet innocent Melanie. Melanie felt she was next ( because of her knowledge) trust she sleeps well at nights knowing she won't be in prison with those two.
Melanie Gibb. Conniving; To pretend ignorance of or fail to take action against something one ought to oppose. 2) To be indulgent or in secret sympathy, to cooperate secretly or have a secret understanding. 3) Conspire, intrigue.
Is that what Prior is trying to insinuate? That Melanie helped to kill the kids? Or that she helped them to kill Charles and/or Tammy? It doesn’t really add up that she would be in on the murders, but then call up Lori and Chad two months later and act like she didn’t know where JJ was. I think she was planning to cover for them, but then got cold feet when she realized they might have done truly awful things worse than adultery, crazy visions, etc.
Yes I believe Melanie's boyfriend David woke her up a bit that's why Lori and Chad were telling her he was influencing her in a bad way they didn't like losing their control over her.
To me, and I'm not an expert in this case, but she is the only one who actually pushed back on Lori. She is the only one (I've seen or heard) that actually confronts Lori and Chad's bull. That was ballsy. So yeah, she's covering her butt but still good on her.
Hi, I am wondering about Melanie Gibb....did she receive immunity?? Because she clearly should be held accountable. I mean, they already had so much evidence, why would she be granted immunity. Also, I hope everyone she’s who this woman is. She only came clean when she had to. She is as messed up as those two and I pity her family. They must be disgusted and embarrassed by her.
Chads attorney in the cross is rude and intimidating. He speaks so fast to put you off and trick you. She did so well. Especially when she told him to speak closer to the mic many times 😂
Wow, trying to argue with a crazy person who was gaslighting and projecting the whole time... "You are going off the deep end" Lol. She actually did a great job of staying calm and keeping the conversation going for the recording.
Poor Larry and Kay having to listen to Lori spread lies about them like they were the bad people in this situation.
100% my heart is breaking for them why ? When they wanted this sweet boy why not just hand him over if they wanted rid boils my blood 💔💔🏴🏴
She's got to make her self look good how little does she know she's the one everyone is looking at piece of crap
@@debbienedeloff9473 ? Who is the piece of crap?
@@nancyvega1785 Lori, duhhh
@@llinosjarvis2754 sickens me, why take lives of our innocent
She only came forward because she thought she might get implicated. If Lori and chad hadn’t told her to lie, she would still be silent. And she publicly went around before this court appearance telling everyone she went to the police, not that she waited 10-12 days, after lying, and not until she recorded that call did she call the police. There’s also the other call she made some rando from Facebook, 6 months before the kids bodies were found and she is very flippant about the kids being dead.
Defense attorney feeling the need to ask Melanie exactly what room she stayed in (at Lori's home) vs. where her boyfriend stayed? How, exactly, is that relevant to anything other than attempting to smear her character?
Pam Smith Defense attorney is trying to place JJ with Lori. Mel G is in Tylee’s room, her bf David is in JJ’s room. When Alex brought JJ home David testified JJ was put into Lori’s bedroom. Defense will blame Lori and Alex. All three are guilty though they’ve already taken care of Alex. Melanie was a convenient stooge.
@@donnaballenger5719 If you are sleeping together and are not married (especially with children involved) you will be told to stop and if you don't, you will be kicked out of the Mormon church.
Is it any wonder people don't want to be a witness. They are treated like shit by the defence.
Now I’m curious why Melanie and Tylee disliked each other
well if she was raised by that she devil she probably wasn't exactly a delight to be around either...just to protect herself!!!!
im guessing it probably had something to do with her being a teenager and not having any interest in being friends with her mom's friends, as that would not be very cool. but i also think she was probably a somewhat difficult teen, likely as a result of her mother's shenanigans. who really knows though? im also curious about what all of their private relationships were like.
Alina Vaysfligel Good point. Also maybe poor Tylee wasn’t buying into this cult and their religious beliefs so anyone that befriended her Mum & Chad and followed this cult she probably held a resentment against. This is probably what made her mother kill her!?! 😢
@@irishdeetalks yes i agree with that! Tylee may have thought that Melanie was just another nut job coming into their life. i think Tylee was more mature than her mom, she was at that age where she wasn't all lovey-dovey with Lori anymore, and she had already witnessed a lot of evil (including the murder of her step-dad). i think all those factors played a role in her murder.
Alina Vaysfligel It’s so sad, most girls that age are slightly rebellious against their parents. Tylee came across as a loving caring teenager but her rebellious side may have came out when her so called mother started with her cult nonsense and as you said, she witnessed the MURDER of Charles. What a burden for such a young girl to have to carry. Lori is they type of C**t (4 give me 4 using that word) but the type that NO ONE speaks against her & her wacko beliefs. I can’t imagine the fear she must have felt in her last moments of life 😢 .
Ugh it burns me when ppl use religion as their scapegoat.
I can’t stand that defense attorney !! He’s so snarky
Agreed. And he looks like he smells
He's creeping looking
Maybe it could work out for good to show jury how mean daybell is I hope so!!!
I'm sure the jury will feel the same way...He has a very punchable face
@@deah6558 *WHAT????*
I hadn't heard about that. That's crazy, but not shocking considering his demeanor!
Waiting for Chad's tongue to flick out and lick his eye.
Hahahaha! Funny!! Kel kel
That cracked me up🤣
He might already done it
He looks like a frog
Lol...roflmbo...hahahaha..good one!..
I maintain that this woman knew alot more than she's letting on .
She absolutely did!
Why do I feel like she was also having a relationship with Chad...
@@jbailey1898 No way. Lori would have killed her. Literally.
Yeah, she lied to the police for Lori, told them that she had JJ.
@@jbailey1898 same thing I thought. He also tried to hook up with Julie Rowe
My hessrt goes out to the grandparents sitting there day after day listening to what happend to those children
Makes you wish you could reach thru the screen and offer support. You can see their hearts shatter over and over again.
@@pancakesatthedisco8088 yes, each extremely uncomfortable during the playing of the tape. I thought at one stage they were both going to get up and leave.
Yes, just listening to Melanie describe JJ having to sleep on mattress in the corner of Lori's bedroom is heartbreaking. It's so emotional and those poor children had no one they could trust...I can't imagine.🌹🌹
Towards the end of the phone conversation you can hear chad breathe out in aggregation then he gives his two cents. He just wanted Lori minus her kids, plus Charles life insurance money. Telling Melanie there are people after her. I'm glad chads ass is sitting in that chair.
Oh how I wish I could have witnessed when Lori discovered she was NOT the beneficiary of the husband she had murdered.
And Lori was too blind to see it, it’s sad that ppl try to look for pleasure elsewhere and think the grass is greener. She coulda saved her marriage and been a great mother. Smh
I testify that Chad is a big ol' murderous dud.
Plus you can hear a pencil on paper, probably Chad telling Lori what to say. Lori is so annoying. Likes to over talk people and her voice is loud and sharp. I could not be around someone like that. I hope she chooses to go on the stand for her trial. Nuts all the way.
AS soon as they asked Gibb to lie - she should have gone to the police immediately.
Usually, you give the benefit of the doubt before taking action when it comes to someone you care about. Otherwise, the police would indeed receive far too many inquiries
Absolutely. But instead, she lied. Unbelievable to me.
@@cathal4921 no way would I lie to the police for someone being investigated.
@@cathal4921at this point, she had given them the benefit of the doubt on multiple occasions
She was all wrapped up I'm it herself. She only started cooperating with the police when she saw they weren't giving up and she needed to save her own butt
Melanie was a willing participant until she realized the cops would get her in the end so she turned to save her butt!
Exactly!! She knew those kids were killed just like she knew Charles and Tammy were murdered because they were "zombies".
I’m sure she made a deal to testify and spill the beans. She was probably gathering evidence to protect herself just in case all along.
EXACTLY!
She called the police long before anyone knew details about certain incidents.
Except if you listen to the recorded call it's obvious she was not part of knowing the wearabouts of JJ. When you hear what Lori and Chad say to her back it's even further proof she didn't know of criminal activity at all.
Everytime Chad closes his eyes, I think he is trying to use his special powers to teleport out of there or influence someone. 😂
I thought the same! You know he thinks he’s controlling everyone😂. Sad really.
Yes, and don't forget the end of the world was supposed to be in july 29th ..wonder what the nutjobs think now...
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Pay attention to that.. usually means they don't want to hear or accept what they are hearing
Beam me outta here
Mr. Prior’s improper use of the microphone is just obnoxious.
222radar priors improper use of mic is on purpose!! As long as hes been lawyer,& educated supposedly,you know he is smart enough to talk into it! He just wants & intends to aggravate ppl,make the judge have to tell him how to use it! Prior wants & tries to bully,control,manipulate everyone he can-just to aggravate,harrass! Like his client!!
We can probably say Mr. Prior is obnoxious, period. Jury isn't going to like the guy
His improper use of oxygen is obnoxious lol
Ya he's a piece of work
5 min of fame & he can't handle it.
Chad: I just knew my life would have two segments" yep before prison, after prison.
His whole conversation; disgusting. He starts saying, "My sister-in-law..." She's like "I don't know her..." Chad says, "Oh I know.." WHAT? I think they knew she was going to call.
WHEN MORMONS DIE THE MEN GET TO BE A GOD OF THEIR OWN PLANET.
Sally Scott in
@@avgmaster1 best of luck to them...anyone who claims to be a god forfeits their afterlife in Heaven with Jesus.
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Melanie's testimony and phone call to the accused, was probably the most impressive circumstantial evidence given in the whole court case. What a harrowing court case.
Watch "Hidden True Crime" Sharie Dowdle for the real truth of Melanie Gibb, in her OWN words.
Hang on Chaddy boy, let me finish your sentence..... ‘I just know my life had 2 segments. Before jail and after jail.’
Hey. He is a special prophet. Lololol
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LOL
you think there will be an after jail I doubt he'll last 6 months in there won't be no after jail for him
Chad needs to grow a beard and mustache to cover up that toad face
He really does have toad face
A bag over his head would be better.
He would just look like a toad with a beard
@@robinettbanister1236 the rare and repulsive bearded toad
My husband actually has a chad daybell toad chin 🤮
Thats why he grows a goatee & mustache. He’s quite attractive with facial hair though 🤣
I told him PLEASE never shave again 🤣
Melanie was definitely next on their hit list.
Oh yes u r right she is in finding now
Yes and there are some of Daybells cult nuts are still out there Melanie best watch out after Recording that phone call wich may help to put these two evill devils away for a long time the FBI or LE needs to give her some protection before the trial she is going to be a great witness for the prosecution
Daybells lawyer is a complete prick and this woman is totally disgusted by him!
I agree this woman was next on the list and she has come to understand that.
I can’t blame her even though I admit I would like to. Lori didn’t show that she was going off off he deep end, at least not for a while. In my opinion Lori and Chad are sociopaths and narcissists
3 yrs later prior still has an issue with his microphone
Lol
Righttttt he drives me nuts use the d mic pryer
I was just thinking this lol
Exactly 😑🙆🏼♀️
I just want to hug those grandparents 😔😔
Me too!! ❤🙏❤
You can tell it's so hard when they are apparently all they can stand to listen to details about the children!!
Me three
If any of you are religious or spiritual, pray for them
I know how u feel they have to sit in there and look at scumbag wonder where coby is
Thank you for covering this disgusting mess
That defense attorney is a huge jerk! I can't stand to look at or listen to him!
Agreed
Me either.
He's a piece of art alright
Patronising !!
It’s obvious that she is correcting herself and not talking about dark spirits etc. She is protecting herself from looking crazy herself. She was in deep.
Listen to her HOURS of TV interviews and it’s BEYOND DOUBT she is as much of a SOCIOPATH as they are, she’s just SMARTER and more articulate- TERRIFYING!
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It seems Chad is enjoying this....adjusting the microphone, correcting attorney of Melanie's last name, and smiling, laughing. He's so pathetic.
Until his 'wife' rolls on him. He should have done his background research on her....
He's creepy!
Noticed he didn’t correct him when he kept referring to Lori as Lori Vallow and not Daybell. I wonder if there’s trouble in paradise🤔
@@ckayewynn25 Yes! Like he's doing a podcast and everyone's there for him...smh!
Reminds me of Jodi Arias.
Why would Lori care about Melanie’s welfare when she didn’t care about Tylee her own flesh and blood or JJ’s welfare.
At some future point Mel too would have for ,some crazy reason , eliminated.
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It’ll. Be interesting to see how Lori explains going from I want to give JJ to Kay to “I gave JJ to Kay”- to Kay wants to kidnap JJ. Hugh? That in itself makes no sense!!
I think evil Lorie makes it up to suit the agenda at the time
It’s amazing the bs she gave ppl and they bought it 🤷🏼♀️🤦♀️
Absolutely. I’ll never understand why she couldn’t just give him to her like she said, if she didn’t want to take care of him which she clearly didn’t 😓
I have only just learned of this sinister case and am now here after listening to what is happening in court , two years on. The sheer wickedness of Lori and Chad's murderous plan in the guise of religion is truly sickening and evil. Seeing Kay and Larry sitting behind that creep Chad, totally dumbstruck hearing that awful recording, broke my heart. They were right all along, knowing that the children were in danger, especially little JJ. How they restrained themselves in not leaping across the seats and throttling him, is beyond me! For the record, Melanie was definitely next on their hit list. I only wish she had gone to the police sooner. Our gut feeling is never wrong. I hope with all my heart that all those murdered by this twisted pair get justice.
Melanie Gibbs and Melanie Lori’s niece were just as bad as Lori and could have got help for those poor kids
@@Tess-163 So true, the niece is really something else! Thankfully her first husband survived the attempt on his life. How on earth do this many murderous sicko's all find each other?
I thought you meant MELANI, Lori's niece earlier. Yes, you are right! She would have killed Melanie Gibbs for testifying or to prevent her testifying that JJ was not with her, then blamed her for JJ's disappearance. Wow! What a serial killer! She may have done the same to Kay.
@@djstl they all meet at the LDS temple , absolute basket cases
@@djstl in the name of church
"2020 is a broad statement" Dude, I can't remember what I did last week let alone months ago! I'd be a terrible witness...
K.. Im glad im not the only 1... Watching this makes me feel like i should write down what i did everyday.. Its scary
Lol you too
I was also thinking, damn, I hope I never have to be a witness to anything LoL 😂 you really gotta have a great memory!
Wish I could remember what I did an hour ago
Yes, unless there was a doctor's or dentist's appoint on my calendar!!! LOL!
I can't imagine Lori or any other woman desiring to kiss those wormie lips. You can see Melanie lost a lot of weight due to the stress of all this.
Paranoid Audience unfortunately Tammy had to.
@@nadiazahroon6573 I thought that too as I wrote it.
Apparently he used his special powers to get laid....or ghb..
Totally agree!!! He repulses me!!
So funny you say this, I have also thought that. Yuck
Off topic, but is anyone else annoyed by Chad's lips?
😂😂😂 His entire face, especially his chin, annoys the hell out of me.. 😂😂
I’m annoyed at his mere existence, he shouldn’t even be allowed to breathe the same air as another human being after what he has done along with her.
Such a hottie!🤮🤠 She left a comfortable life and man who adored her for THIS? Yucks
J Palos ..scary!!!! you need to go to spec savers👓 you not seeing what we are, for sure!!! 👀
He looks like a character on The Simpsons. LOL
She needs to be charged as well. She knew very well what was going on and did nothing. She also enjoying the attention a little too much.
she got off completely cause of her testimony but i agree with you. alot of them should have been charged! its infuriating watching her. iv seen her interview with the police, nate eaton etc. she is loving every minute of the attention, smiling and having a great old time. the worst part imo is her actually preaching her religious bs. how dare she!!!
-49:48 " I'm sorry judge I heard some voices in the corner" then asks Mrs. Gibb if she's been diagnosed with an auditory disorder. ( Sleezy guy is really playing games with witness)
I couldn't find the comment you mention. @49:48 it's the tape recording.
Prior is REALLY obnoxious. Someone label him a zombie and do us a favor 🙄
That's funny.
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hahaha to funny
victoria mooney 😂 😝 😆
when i tell you i gasped laughed 😂😂😂
This “oh shucks, I apologize, I’m just dumb” act by the defence attorney is very see-through, patronizing and annoying.
I AGREE! It’s driving me nuts! It just makes him look like an idiot.
I love their back and forth condescending raillery😂😂
@You Mad Bro not once did I call him dumb. He is portraying himself that way as a tool. I recognize that. But his acting/rouse/plan comes across heavy with insincerity and therefore may not be as effective as he is intending. That is my impression and I don’t need for you to see things the same as I do with your own impression. To each their own.
@You Mad Bro interesting take. Maybe.
@You Mad Bro I’ve worked 40 years with defence lawyers and know exactly what he was up to. If it had been a full trial before a jury he would have looked to them as a goose. This witness held her own and outshone him almost entirely throughout this long cross examination. The witness freely admitted that she had told the police a lie, had been used by her girlfriend, was very troubled by it and quickly corrected it by contacting the police. Any jury would believe all she said, a credible witness for the crown.
John Prior’s face during the questioning of Melanie Gibb says it all for this whole case! 😂 Miss Gibb knows more...
I didn’t notice. Going back to watch. Melanie’s testimony was cut and dried. He can’t begin touch it.
During Priors questioning?
Gibb wasn’t involved in the deaths.
@@canileaveitblank1476 But she knew.
@@patriciafoster3347 You know this how, exactly? Most of us here see a big trash bag on the side of the highway and think *OMG a body!* Other non true crime watchers think trash bag. 😂
Melanie isn’t binging crime shows, and looking for ‘clues’ or side eyeing her friends.
Cognitive dissonance would stop her from immediately suspecting her friends of mvrder.
As horrifying as this is, I am grateful it is being made public.
Yes, Kudos to the Court!
Yes, people need to be aware of how this kind of danger can look
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Sadly, now the trial won’t be. 😣
It needs to be so ppl will take things like this more serious.
I'd say she's lucky to be alive.
I agree! After that phone call, she’s probably glad that she went into hiding. They would have killed her too.
Yes.
And her husband too
I agree
@@marianneday3068 wow she went into hiding?
You know it finally dawned on me Lori was going to blame all of this on Melanie Gibb!! If Melanie said she had JJ than eventually Lori would say she had him and that Lori had no idea where JJ was.
Bingo! Why do you think she made the recording and now sings like a canary? Hint: It's NOT because it's the right thing to do ;)
@@StellaFl if this were true, lori would've signaled that out in the recorded conversation. She called her out on dating her boyfriend before her own divorce went through.....so no...she didn't know what was going on.
Sadly, this sounds about right. Melanie was being "played"
I thought the same thing.
Bingo! You hit the nail on the head.
Cults within cults. Crazy.
I hope he goes to general population in prison. The guys dont like crimes involving kids . He will get dealt with!!!!
@Mango Roxx that's not true. There was a case one time, a while ago, where a man if I'm remembering correctly, raped and murdered his step daughter. She was very young if memory serves, and when the inmates found out what his charges were, they cornered him, beat him senseless, and then carved her name into his forehead. That way every time he looked at himself, he would remember her. Not every man or woman in jail/prison is a heartless, selfish piece of garbage.
I guess it wasn't as long ago as I remembered it to be lol.
@@wikidprincess what was used for ink?
That's funny u say that my brother was in there he said there one thing u don't do is hurt or murder a child they will take care of him Chad better be worried some of those inmates in there don't care
@@kristinatidwell6563 probably soot or ink from a pen. I have two tattoos on my left hand that we're done "prison style" which was basically burning a candle with cardboard or paper around it to collect the soot from the flame, and then the soot was put into water and mixed together.
Alex 'passed away' 5 days after that 20 minute phone call. Seems Alex had given Gibb a revealing hint of JJ's demise.
Oh my gosh! I didn't know that! SO MUCH demonic works going on here! Melanie stands confident in the Holy Spirit!
Convenient
Not to mention he died the day after Tammy's body was exhumed.
Alex talked to Melanie, Tammy was exhumed, Chad and Lori found out, then Alex dies suddenly! Too dayum convenient!
@@dollymadison2397 no she does not.. she's a conspirator and she's complicit believing that she also was a chosen one over other human lives you Jesus Christ of latter-day saints need to wake up there is no 144,000 chosen people. Get with reality these are evil evil evil people
It was great when she told the Defense Attorney to speak into the microphone. He’s on my last nerve.
timestamp? g2g work soon
1:06:50 ty
If I was in her place I would tell him I can't hear you over and over and over until he spoke into the mic. He's so fucking annoying!
@@yourinnerlawyer4035 no you wouldn't
@@ccgb92 yes, I would have. I've been a witness on the stand before, I know what it's like.
I still believe both Melanie’s should spend some time in jail. Especially her niece, she needs to go away for song time and never see her children again. That’s for showing up with Alex after being trespassed. She was given immunity to testify at Lori’s trial and turned around and watched Brandon’s testimony so she couldn’t testify. Time for jail.
Lori was completely gaslighting Mel G. with her convoluted word salad.
H A R i dont agree, and how do you know this? If she had not come forward they may not have found the kids
@H A R I feel this too
@H A R strange to me that she supposedly knew nothing about the kids but her choice of words were "are you nervous" why would that be what she asked him?
@@JMac-27 i thought that was quite telling also.
Love Pet she didn’t come forward until she knew she was in over her head
During the interview, they asked Melanie when was the last time she saw JJ and she said that it was late in the evening when she, Lori, Chad, and David were doing a podcast at Lori's home. JJ supposedly has been with Alex and he came in carrying JJ supposedly asleep. Melanie did not see JJ the next morning even though she stayed the night at Lori's house. Instead Lori said that she called Alex to come get JJ because he was climbing all over the cabinets and refrigerator. For one thing, wouldn't Melanie hear this ruckus if he was getting into so much that morning? I believe that when Melanie saw Alex carrying in a "sleeping" JJ that he was probably already dead and that they were waiting for Melanie to leave before they buried the body. They may have even planned for this to happen that way so Melanie would see JJ and think at that point he was okay. That would also help Chad, Lori, and Alex's timeline and alibi. What also bothers me is that neither Chad nor Lori have shown one ounce of grief that these children were found dead and especially the manner in which they were found.
Paul--I, too, immediately wondered about "asleep in Alex" arms. Lori's voice , hearing the Bible read that way and so much more. ....nobody years before had any bad vibes about Chad or Lori?
I haven't seen Gibb grieving for the children either......
Agree 100% 👌🏻🏴
That's what I been saying all along there faces show nothing it's like she never had any kids
Paul Johnston I think he was either dead or drugged when Alex carried him in. They just wanted Melanie to see him. I bet after Melanie and David were asleep Alex came back and got JJ. I fact the cell pings show Alex at Chads farm during the night. Tylee was already dead and burned by then.
some stupid people think that just because they say "i love you" makes all things alright---even evil things
gebeltherebel manipulation
Yes they do, bless their hearts!
Yes. It makes my stomach churn to hear an unsincere or even a nonchalant "I love you". That's not something you should say lightly or just in passing; it cheapens it. I notice women say it to their girlfriends all the time and it makes me cringe
She said nothing about being involved in casting. I don’t think she’s as innocent as she’d like to appear
She said she'd been involved in at least 10 castings in her police interview.
She definitely is NOT!!
Jurors are going to detest the defense attorney.
I don’t think, when they get arrested for capital murder with special circumstances, that there will be a trial.
They’ll cop a plea to a lesser charge to take the death penalty off the table.
There won’t be a trial.
Pamie Miller ... excellent point! And as someone else said here, it takes a special kind of snake to defend a child killer.
Liberty Hussein if they want to stay alive they will! I think they will blame everything in the dead brother ...
1:06:56 defense calls Melanie “Mr Daybell”
All I keep thinking is Eddie Haskel, Prior is a manipulative snake.
The defense attorney and his nasty way will not make any friends with the future jury!
He slammed her. He made her look bad
EXPLORING WITH MUSCLE THE RUSSELL. He Tried to make her look bad, she did well! Even judge was getting piss with this slimball
He was so irritating and purposely played dumb with the mic to cause issues with her hearing him and to posture.
Dana Barciz you look just like that thing on the stand. The succubbbus is real
Hes good though thats what I hate
One of Chad's 'prophesies' at least will come true. In his own recorded words saying he was 'told' his life would be split into two halves.First half = freedom. Second half = prison.
Many will be surprised when he walks out unpunished. They can’t prove he’s done anything, no evidence, other than the kids were on his property buried. However, he wasn’t on his property then and they found Alex’s phone pings only being there. He is going to claim he knew nothing about it and get off with it. He’s going to turn on Lori before it’s over.
@@pamelamorris3148 He texted his soon to be deceased wife Tammy on that very same day and time frame - bragging that he had just shot and buried a Racoon.
@@pamelamorris3148 can't possibly get away with his evil wife's Lorie dead children on his property , and poor healthy Tammy suddenly dies , then bad dumbbell collects his wife's insurance, marries evil Lorie within weeks, honeymoons in Hawaii with the insurance claim, I mean u can't make this stuff up! It's all fact!
He won't be in prison long...they are aiming for a death penalty in his case and I for one hope he gets it. Why waste good money on keeping him in jail with free dental care, doctor's care, food and drink, entertainment and so on and so forth and all at our (the taxpayers) expense.
@@norlavine which was buried right where they found the children!
I’ve listened to this call several times and it’s just now I caught Lori threatening Melanie’s life when she said you know a lot about the situation and you’re going to be held accountable. If I was Melanie I would have been terrified from that call up until the moment both Chad and Lori were behind bars.
@Tara Mcgavan Wow! I agree. ☝️
I agree!
That’s the your going to pay the price for tuning on me.
She probably was because she knew exactly who was doing the murders
Mormon fighting: instead of throwing punches they throw scripture readings back and forth! Badass
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Killah Kate bahahahaha that was so great
Right???😂
😂😂😂😭😂🤣🥳🤩😆
Well, sometimes we wil actually throw a punch!
💚💜💚💜💚💜 JUSTICE FOR JJ AND TYLEE AND CHARLES AND TAMMY 💜💚💜💚💜💚
Its heartbreaking NONE of these people will be charged with the deaths of these kids!!! They are being charged with MINOR charges BOTH Chad and Lori!!
@@justmissjamey I learned while following the Watts case, that even years after the case is "closed" new charges can be brought against people suspected of a crime. They can very very possibly be charged with murder at a later date. Remember; this is just the start of what's sure to be a very long and drawn out process.
Especially if that freaking defense attorney has anything to do with it. 🙄🙄
Yessssssss
@@wikidprincess are there new charges in the watts case? I have to look that up now, I always wanted them to look more into NK
“I’m sorry that you feel that way” is how nice girls say “screw you!”
It's what all narcissists say as an apology. They never actually apologize for their wrongful actions. They transfer their guilt onto the person they've harmed.
Omg I’ve been with two. I’m so thankful I raised my son alone. So he’s twisted. But he’s not one. Thank you Jesus
Mel G is NOT a nice girl.
Guys say it too lol
Or "I'm just doing what the Lord instructed me to do"....
I think Melanie only recorded the call and seemed like she was questioning them to cover her own back, she knew what they had done to those kids and she knew the net was closing in. She just tried to save her own skin, awful people make me sick. I hope Chad and Lori burn in hell for what they have done
Bingo. John P is going to rip her a new 1 in Chads Trial.
The call bewtween her and Lori is like two snakes in a pit. Really disturbing to hear them both being like that. What did Melanie gain from lettig them murder people?
@@anthill1510 I don’t think we can ever understand their actions as we are wired up right these people aren’t
Right beside THIS Piece of Work!!
Except if you listen to the recorded call it's obvious she was not part of knowing the wearabouts of JJ. When you hear what Lori and Chad say to her back it's even further proof she didn't know of criminal activity at all.
49:30 “Honey, we both know you have desires”. Whoah!!!
I wouldn't doubt Melanie's desires either. IMO it sounds like a three-way.
@@estellepatella2520 my thoughts exactly. And I think she had feelings for Chad.
She is shady and knows more than she is leading on. I can't believe how many people in comments trust her
@@estellepatella2520 I'm with you on that .
Melanie is a snake for sure. She’s being self serving and righteous when she hasn’t lived a godly life either. She 100% was leading them to say things and then didn’t get what she wanted out of it.
@@pamelamorris3148 no one has lived a "godly life". Stones and glass houses...the taped conversation between the women proves she didnt know anything. Lori would have shoved it in her face otherwise.
One of the most crazy cases I have followed.
One of?
@@necessarygood8591 as in she follows many.
Agreed!
I agree! And I'm a true crime junkie!!
This one and Casey Anthony s
She's really redeemed herself to me...I like she's not intimidated by chats slimey lawyer..
Me too........he really is a slimy lawyer
I find it hard to believe Melanie didn’t know about the murders. Very hard!
I agree!! Also, Chad is describing Tammy being sick, I think Tammy figured out Chad was having an affair with Lori. And she was devastated! Tammy was a librarian at the school, raised 5 children and was disrespected by this jerk Chad. On another video , I learned that Chad would make fun of Tammy for no reason in front of the children, and they would also laugh at their mother. Infuriating that they are all defending their father!!
I absolutely agree. She knew. She was involved, then got scared when police started questioning and she wanted out.
@@Shaylala19937 How could she know and have this phone conversation? This theory is not plausible.
Common sense says she didn't because this conversation would have never tool place.
Chad and Lori told him that Tammy turned dark and than turned into a zombie. Shortly after she was dead. Melanie knew what that meant. She knew all of it.
Lori Vallow gets a blue ribbon for mental illness.
@Swervin’ In My Lane mental illness but mostly "full of the devil",& just works of the flesh! A lot of times the devil is blamed for stuff that was just pure rotten human!!
Just evil.
I have mental health issues BUT my children r alive n I know where they are n they in their 30 married with children Lori is evil 👿
No, she's NOT mentally ill, she's sly, conniving, heartless,cruel, greedy, narcissistic, cold, uncaring and plain EVIL 😢
Mr wood keep up the good work,and put Chad and Lori on jail for life
First Last.... I’m not understanding your comment....could you explain what you mean?
Franklin smith....better yet put them under the jail..
Does Idaho have the death penalty? That would work too.
Karen Kayser - murderers go to prison, not jail
The defense attorney is so slimey.
He looks like a heart attack waiting to happen
It takes a psychotic criminal defense attorney like Prior to defend an equally depraved criminal like the toady Chad.
Lori the Black Widow left a trail of dead bodies from Chandler/Gilbert Arizona to Freemont/Madison county Rexburg , Idaho to keep a task force of LEO's busy for the next 3 years. Just glad the judge kept the bond at million, Lori is a very dangerous POS that would without a doubt eliminated more people if she wasn't incarcerated.
I'm fairly sure Gibbs knows how close she came to being dead, if they hadn't slapped the cuffs on the black widow. Eventually the toad is going to fold and spill all the beans once other serious charges are added to his current list. Idk, it just seems like she (Lori)may have done something along the same line before, she's a hell of a master manipulator.
He's a known sexual predator. Lots of creeps involved here.
God, have the bailiff go over and pull that microphone to his face!
Right... pull in his fuc*^%% chair
Just looking at Chad makes me sick
I can't quite put my finger on the look Chad gives Melanie as she comes off the stand. It isn't disdain. It isn't contempt. It isn't hatred. It isn't anger. It looks like FEAR. He KNOWS he is screwed. I don't think the Woodcocks had heard this phone call prior to it being revealed in court. The expressions on their faces, the amazement listening to the phone call and the horror, the understanding that the man sitting in front of him was involved in killing their grandson. I would NOT have the self-control they exhibit. I would have jumped over that railing and smacked him into next month. I would have gone to jail for contempt for a few days but it would have been worth it. Unbelievable.
Don’t mess with the grandparents. Common knowledge.
Very astute observation. You are right. At his core, Chad is a coward. And a bully. Suddenly, this mild mannered petite woman has immense power over him. He failed at his manipulation and persuasion with her. A woman of real moral character who recorded him and went to police with the evidence. It is fear. I feel so sad for the Woodcocks.
This was Kay's little grandson and she raised him as a baby. She thought JJ was in good hands with Charles Vallow, who was a good man, solid guy, such a good father for both kids. Then this evil triad, decimates Charles, JJ, Tylee, Tammy... a trail of death. Such a huge waste of good lives. I don't know how Larry sits there behind Chad and holds back.
Yes me tooo!!!!!!!
Defense Attorney: I'm sorry judge, I heard some voices in the corner, and I, it distracted me. I apologize.
Defense Attorney moments later: You've never been medically diagnosed with an auditory disorder?
He's a piece of work.
It was so quiet in there, you could hear a flea fart.
Google William Shatner playing lawyer character Denny Crain. Lol these are exactly the same "tactics" mr Pryor is using
The reselmblance is uncanny as well lol
@Crystal Very funny 🤣
🤭😂😂
LMAO
I bet Chad was turning into a zombie 🧟♂️
She handled herself very well. She is very lucky to be alive after them eliminating every other threat to them.
Good point. Although it sounds to me like Alex died of COVID.
@@MariettaFarley Alex Cox's (Lori's bro) autopsy reads that he died of Bilateral Pulmonary Thromboemboli and Hypertensive Cardiovascular Disease. In simpler terms, heart failure and blood clots. Alex's death is the only death that isn't under suspicion or investigation, so far. I do wonder if karma and/or the stress of it all played a role in his sudden demise.
You called it. Lori says on that phone call, something like: "This is not you talking. Where is this darkness coming from" = "You're a zombie now."
Do you still feel stupid?
Why when she's just as involved? I.mo
So on one hand Lori said she was sending jj to Kay then on the other says she was protecting him from her.
Those ladies in in jail dont like it when u hurt a child I bet shes where they can't get to her
An amazing memory is required if you are to keep all your lies in order. Lori is lacking in this area.
It amazes me how Lori lies. She can’t open her mouth without another whopper falling out. I guess goddess’s aren’t held to the same standard as everyone else, you know, thou shalt not lie… 😳
I really like this judge. He is fair and does not allow unnecessary bla bla in his courtroom.
Okay, is it just me or is the defense attorney insulting? I can’t imagine how hard is it to sit under his scrutiny while he tries to trip her up.
He is a terd. Yes, super duchebag
Interrogation on which way she looked, please 🙄
He’s a super jerk but I’m sure he gives good ol Chad a shred of hope 🤮
He's doing his job
bet you he is really high up in the mormon church
damn the defense attorney needs to take a Xanax, he went to a 10 real damn quick
He has a rap sheet also I can't believe they didn't take his license
@@debbienedeloff9473 I wish they had, I think Chad is paying for him, not the taxpayers
Thankfully, I can hardly hear him.
The gaslighting by Lori is astounding!!! I’m glad Melanie recorded the conversation. Rest In Peace JJ and Tylee!!
It's on a par with Meghan's gaslighting of Harry.
Rest in peace, JJ and Tylee. May justice be done.
Lori, a malignant narcissist knew how to manipulate Melanie. Melanie is a flake but she’s also a victim.
@@nonmihiseddeo4181 oh good lord. You Brits are so racist.
Don't be fooled. She was in on it and she was just trying to get ahead of the game. She is fake.
@@nonmihiseddeo4181 Except when it involves four or more dead people~two of them children~the creep factor is a millionfold worse
This LDS Stepford Wife and her sly smirks is absolutely complicit in the deaths of Charles, Kylee and JJ!
And Tammy.
I agree!!!! ☝🏻
I have thought that from the beginning of her first appearance on the scene.
I feel so badly for the Grandparents, Lori's son, and most of all for the kids that were murdered. When Lori says on the recording that JJ is safe and happy, I spit my coffee out thru my nose. What a crock of bull. I really hope we get to see this trial online , and I hope for Justice in the outcome.
How to get Melanie's hackles raised: accuse her son!
I heard that saying someone is "safe and happy" is something that people of the LDS faith say when referring to someone who has passed and is in heaven. The whole case is just disgusting.
Is the grandfather the guy with the big string of beads around his neck?
At the end of the short doc I just watched he had a bizarre simile & look in his eyes when Lori was leaving the courtroom (she was smiling too.)
Is he also an LDS cult member?
@@joannaflowers5563 Lds is just another religion used to prevert GOD'S Holy Word! Our creator is real, this is all a cult branched off of another!
@@cristineconnell7803 Glad someone else is voicing that fact. If LDS, Inc., wasn't such a weird religious cult, there wouldn't be all of these murderous offshoots like these weirdos and the FLDS polygamists, etc.
Wow, chads attorney Mr. Prior, is so far awful.
What a sick group of individuals that have just enough intelligence to be very, very, obviously dangerous!
Sick is the wrong word. These people are evil.
This lady is a baller in court. The defense came off like a complete ass.
Gibb comes off as cold , snobby , overconfident and thinks she’s All THAT just like Lori. They seem to be two peas in a pod -
If you think she’s DIABOLICAL here you must watch her 2 hour TV interview! She’s a pure SOCIOPATH and should be in prison herself - she KNEW JJ was in incredible DANGER from their “delusions” of him as a ZOMBIE and she did NOTHING to SAVE that little Boy then LIED knowing they’d done something very Bad to him at the VERY LEAST!!
@forpetessake3532 I don't disagree. I've testified in court and just from a nerves perspective I was a hot mess....and it wasn't anyone I knew was job related. I couldn't hold it together. She knows much more than she let's on.
I agree. Why there’s so many haters over MG is beyond me.
"can you speak a little closer to your mic" and EVERYONE with a mask on grinned ear to ear including the Judge
Haha loved that part
Timestamp??! Lol
Crystal Dawn hey girl! I just found it for you. It’s at 1:06:51 :)
And he still whispered his lame words
It's Idaho. We don't wear masks here. What are you talking about?
This right here is just an example of why I could never practice law how this defense attorney acts towards Melanie is just ridiculous. I could never sit there and defend somebody like them because in the end there going to be jailed for a very long time. I promise you that I know there's always the saying innocent before proven guilty but everybody knows they're not innocent. The defense attorney needs to just go ahead and count this as an L 👌
Also might I point out that the fact that the defense attorney just straight-up tried to act like she had some kind of disorder because she couldn't recall an event from two years ago is absolutely rude and out of order
Right? I would have asked him if he had a medical condition that causes him to hear voices.
Jessica Rodman or has a medical condition that prohibits him from following directions cause he can’t fix his mic
People said Casey Anthony would die in jail too and look at how that went. As sideways as the world has gone, as much as I want them both to die in prison, I'm not counting any chickens.
@@jessicarodman3569 If ONLY they could have done that!
But what about those kids who were wrongly imprisoned for raping for a girl in the park. They needed someone to fight for them and the system failed them. They weren’t guilty and their lives were wasted in jail for a decade.
The cross examination was intimidating. Melanie Gibb handles it well. Hallelujah
She really does indeed ! I sure don't know if I would've been able to keep composed like her, if that condescending jerk was cross examining me in that off manner...🙄
The defense attorney and Chad Daybell look alike. However, Chad’s attorney, looks like a slightly older version of him. It’s pretty freaking creepy 💀💀💀👽👽👽 ~ The Walking Dead, Aliens!
They do look alike - I thought maybe they were related.
I thought the same thing! Chad keeps his lips pursed tight together more so they roll out,someone called him fish lips!! I hope they read everything everyone says about them!!
My few mornon relatives hire other Mormons when they need something. I wonder if his lawyer is a Mormon too and if they are related.
They're zombified!
That call will never get old. Melanie went face to face with the devil and won. 🏵️
Yes, she did!
M.G. is going to face the music in the days to come! She knew way before those children were found they were dead!
@@bluewillow4985 how do you know?
No. She’s was just trying to cover has ass. Which is why she recorded it
@@nsxpetes Yeah, the fact that she DID lie about missing children seals it for me. She’s saving her ass. But I do believe what she is saying because of the CYA recording she made.
I wonder what Chad the chin is thinking while he sits stoney faced
He needs a mask because his face makes me super nauseated.
@@peggyreely8339 yes what did Lori find so attractive about this ugly toad? I know looks are not everything but he hasnt got a personality either? Do you think he was next on the list to die?? Maybe its hitting him ...she only wanted me for money... 😝
Im not saying shes great either but he really is a wierd looking individual
Chad is desperately trying to Conjure up his special demon portal. :)))
😂😂Chad the Chinless, I believe you mean.
He is actually retrognathic in his mandible. My first husband was as well, thankfully, none of our children got his gene, it's not very attractive and quite "turtley"🐢...however, a person's demeanor greatly influences my opinion of them, that being said, Chad could have the MOST chiseled chin and he would STILL be abhorrent.
‘I love you’ is a kiss of death from those people.
Damn Melanie is sassy up on that stand! Get 'em girl!
MELANIE IS MY KINDA GIRL..SMART, BLUNT AND RAW..SHE SOLVED THAT CASE.THEY NEED TO STOP PLAYING AND PUT THEM TWO IN AND THROW AWAY THE KEY!
It’s melanie’s moment. They screwed her over and now she can get the ultimate revenge by turning on them and releasing evidence. She was in love w that Chad and thank Hod he went for Lori instead. They’re so disgusting. Murdering those innocent children.
She can’t say « murdered » what’s going on with this woman???
Shes quick witted for sure.
I bet she is sorry for her being friends with crazy Lorie isn't what y call a friend shes a monster
I think the end of the recorded conversation came when Lori hung up on her.
Why can't that defense attorney figure out how to adjust his mic?
Its almost like hes playing the bumbling fool on purpose to give Chad a shot at retrial due to a flawed defense.
He's doing everything he can to distract from the obvious fact of his client's guilt.
He has only one brain cell and that is down at the moment,
...it’s a tactic
Ms. Gibb can remember Chad's phone number as well as certain details with conversations yet, she can't remember Lori's address, a home she often. I always felt that Melanie never been 100 percent truthful. This woman was close to Chad & Lori as well as brought people to there congregation meetings! I'm not buying the sweet innocent Melanie. Melanie felt she was next ( because of her knowledge) trust she sleeps well at nights knowing she won't be in prison with those two.
Wow, lories an excellent narcissist! She is sooooo good to always turn everything back around on to Melanie (in the recording)
Melanie Gibb. Conniving;
To pretend ignorance of or fail to take action against something one ought to oppose. 2) To be indulgent or in secret sympathy, to cooperate secretly or have a secret understanding. 3) Conspire, intrigue.
@@sixthsenseamelia4695 wow that really is so awesome.
Gibb is a nut case on her own right
WELL SAID!!
Slimy Prior is badgering the witness.
Stay strong Melanie Gibb ur doing great!
H A R yes! And now she’s trying to benefit from it financially.
H A R - EXACTLY
Is that what Prior is trying to insinuate? That Melanie helped to kill the kids?
Or that she helped them to kill Charles and/or Tammy?
It doesn’t really add up that she would be in on the murders, but then call up Lori and Chad two months later and act like she didn’t know where JJ was.
I think she was planning to cover for them, but then got cold feet when she realized they might have done truly awful things worse than adultery, crazy visions, etc.
M Gibb is so honest 👍
Yes I believe Melanie's boyfriend David woke her up a bit that's why Lori and Chad were telling her he was influencing her in a bad way they didn't like losing their control over her.
To me, and I'm not an expert in this case, but she is the only one who actually pushed back on Lori. She is the only one (I've seen or heard) that actually confronts Lori and Chad's bull. That was ballsy. So yeah, she's covering her butt but still good on her.
Lori’s sister pushed back
Hi, I am wondering about Melanie Gibb....did she receive immunity?? Because she clearly should be held accountable. I mean, they already had so much evidence, why would she be granted immunity. Also, I hope everyone she’s who this woman is. She only came clean when she had to. She is as messed up as those two and I pity her family. They must be disgusted and embarrassed by her.
I agree she is very slimy. Hiding behind scruptures I she would have called police they would have been caught sooner.
Scriptures
Agreed
I remember watching this at the time. I can't wait for the jury to hear this taped conversation!!!
Look how Dumbbell looms at her while testifying, wonder what his thinking
Chads attorney in the cross is rude and intimidating. He speaks so fast to put you off and trick you. She did so well. Especially when she told him to speak closer to the mic many times 😂
I love this Judge. I hope he is the Judge for the entire case.
kayliiika Agreed. He seems pretty straightforward.
Lori requested a different judge so he’s off the case and a woman has been assigned t step in as judge
I know, I wish he'd preside of their trials too but he's not..judge Boyce is and Lori's trial starts today with opening statements..April 10, 2023..
That "defense" attorney is evil.
For sure...did you look up his background? I can't believe he still has a license to practice law.
Seriously, do an internet search on him.
He’s sooo bad.
@@colleenm5760 what's his name, again?
Danelle Malchus How do defense attorneys sleep at night???
And your not
Wow, trying to argue with a crazy person who was gaslighting and projecting the whole time... "You are going off the deep end" Lol. She actually did a great job of staying calm and keeping the conversation going for the recording.
No she didn't she listen to Lori stupid BS
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