Everything that’s wrong with women in the media | Holly Baxter | TEDxYouth@Manchester
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- This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences. TEDxYouth@Manchester is proud to present its 6th TEDxYouth conference on Wednesday 5th November 2014. Our event is presented to 450 post 16 students from The Fallibroome Academy in Macclesfield, UK and to over 150 invited students from local schools. We live stream our conference around the world and our theme is ‘Reset’ and the exciting programme includes brilliant speakers, and stunning student performances.
Holly Baxter is the 25 year old co-founder and editor of The Vagenda, an online media satire magazine for women, as well as author of the Vagenda book, which came out earlier this year. She is also a columnist for the Guardian and a freelance journalist for a number of other national publications. She is the previous resident of an airing cupboard.
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"Sex is something that women have done to them and something men do", this sums up society's opinion about sex, omg
No one in their right fucking mind thinks sex is something a "man does to a woman". Stop projecting. Fuck. Sex is something people do with each other.
But if the woman isn't satisfied, it's the man's fault. If the man isn't satisfied... HAHAHA! He isn't really a man.
You good ?
I totally relate to everything she is saying. Is absolutely annoying, obnoxious and evil what the media does in the portrayal of men and women most of the time.
SHAME on all you people who are picking on her . Get over yourselves! All she did was trying to do was make a point on women's self confidence ...which was all about how media is making women feel bad about themselves no matter what, starting at a very young age. She may have picked a poor example....but geeezzz. She is doing a lot more then the likes any of you. You're like a herd of sheep....going after a small tidbit of grass and missing the bloody pasture! "TRY AND STAY FOCUSED ON THE ISSUE!"
Wow, so many sad, angry men feeling threatened and emotional over one young lady talking about how ridiculous women's beauty magazines are.
No; it's who she says is responsible for it.
Try again.
Women's magazines are predictable in content with every issue.
@Calla Mett
At least those are useful; if bought once.
You forgot powerlifting
*Wtf??*
They are repetitive af, tho
Relatable light and spot on right. One of the best posts I enjoyed :)
Funny how some magazines push the idea you need to love yourself then critic everything wrong with you that YOU need to change to fit in.
One of the best TED talks that I've watched.
I can't believe Woman's World magazine is still around, always with another stupid crash diet on every cover, right next to a recipe for a fattening desert. And the magazine industry wonders why they're losing so much money. What a joke.
Horrible to see that this and similar TEDtalks have taken place 5 years ago and media is worse than ever right now.
I hope more and more people get fed up with these magazines and advertisement and stop to buy/click them or even fight against them.
I think the saddest part is that a lot of this comes from women.
She's right. Those magazines and ads are disgusting, but I think people ascribe too much blame and power to the manufacturers of this swill. If no one bought them, these mags and ads would go away in a year. They are exploiting flaws and insecurities that are inside of us. They aren't creating them. Cosmo and Playboy outsell The Economist because people are shallow and horny. The mags are a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself.
@jsdf. jkkejk don't buy it
I haven't bought a "women's magazine" since I was a teenager. It seems I haven't missed out on a thing.
Thank you for this speech and for your magazine.
excellent speech, loved it
Brilliant!!!
I realized what she's saying long time ago and you know what ? I just stopped buying this magazines, end of the story.
It might be the end of the story for you! But all of this nonsense seeps into society, into values and how some young women see themselves.
Good lecture
Only about 200, 000 views. That is deplorable because this is a brilliant woman and TED talk.
lol brutally honest .. need more like this..
I was nearly about to disagree on the topic of how magazines talk about "how to please your man." Basically I worry as a male I have a lost of power within a relationship with women. But when I heard how crazy the suggestions are I fully agree with how crazy women are being talked to in magazines.
+Coffee Lover Shocking! But I will believe it being shown in a "fun" way. It's how media spins their view to shape the way they want it seen.
I love this girl!!!!!
It’s depressing that second wave feminists used to point out and collect this stuff in the seventies. There was a period when things got better and then somehow freedom for women became equated with looking and behaving like Barbie dolls and hookers.
The last part for various reasons made so much sense to me. In fact, it is one of the things that I've started noticing over the years and really upsets me. That's a fact. Especially if we were to apply this to the present days..geez it's just really depressing.
Great respect to the fact that the Vagenda magazine name came about from humor, cause I hear the name and worried it might take on this judgement on men, as opposed to bring up human rights issues.
i gave up Cosmo at 12 years old. i already knew better. ofc the damage was already done.it had invaded my psyche in the worst way possible
8:02 LOL. great educational video!!
"Amen Sister" @}'~,~~
NICE AND WARM AN AIRING CUPBOARD
Corporations don't care about social issues. What they put out is what gives them a financial return. Of course some individuals may go off track or be mixed up, but they probably get weeded out over more financially based objective professionals. I've seen an old boy sexist man, who made his own rules replaced by a more professional women. It was a bitter pill for him to take.
Brutally honest
Regarding the top theme of these comments about this comment: the doughnuts bit. Why isn't it possible for humans to get over things that humans are born with. Men are born with a certain penis size, just like women are born with certain breast size, men with a certain amount of body hair, women with a certain hair color... it is noones fault or desicion. So why don't concentrate on the things that really matter: Mind-sets of people, behavior and all those important bits that can actually be changed for the better.
I'm glad the only magazines I read are my mum's Tesco and gardening ones 😂
I hate how the tabloids talk about celebrities like they 'emerge' 'venture' 'step out' as if they live in hibernation
Did she pronounce the "b" in "Bolognese"? It's not a hard g; it indicates palatalization of the n.
Where phan all began...
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Long long ago there was a brilliant leader that did his best to solve these problems and failed.he was sucker punched.
Isn't all insurance sold in the same way?
My ad for this video was for a shaper
Is it Politically Incorrect to be attracted to a woman for her intellect?
Nothing is PC anymore lol
haha you’re joking right
Absolutely not ! Come on, it's actually the better thing to do
At some extent she is right but she can take more example and clear the concept.Make people to understand her view did not reach to everyone
"Everything that’s wrong with.. " this starts with none sense.
mens magazines are worthwhile.
Had no idea she hails from Newcastle.
When anyone, smart or not, belittles or insults anyone, (including anyone generalizing anything about men, and acting as if they can speak for other women), it is just plain wrong, and clearly shows some insecurity about THEMSELF. Just thought I'd mention.
Media does this about older women all the time, yet portrays old men as something still worthwhile. Nurture , not nature
i think her criticisms of the industry's suggestion show that there aren't good ideas to share just ingroup thinking to share with your friends
the industry is surely anti-friends, and anti-any-group, it's just a mannequin to dress up advertising dollars to launder the MBA bottleneck of flywheel financing... women have bore the burden too long and need to recognize the value of not encouraging it as harmless
Help me out here The Fuzz, how exactly did these civilizations come into being without the contribution of women? Were they populated by robots? Or were the people grown in laboratories perhaps? No, wait, were they were beamed down from another world?
That sounds like a scary proposition ***** please tell me more
***** I find your response to me very telling.
My comment was that the human race exists because women have given birth which I believe is a verifiable biological fact.
The context of that comment was to make the point that, despite the musings of The Fuzz, women HAVE been present during the “hard work of building civilization”, etc.
Then, as now, there are many different roles that are required to build a functioning society and not all look the same … however … all of them have value.
***** So we're agreeing that women were both present, and necessary during the formation of our society?
Good to find that common ground with you.
***** I was thinking more like air and water.
Oh Richard, you were doing so well.
I knew it....size does matter!....guys if your penis fits in a doughnut hole, even women fighting for women to be more fairly portrayed in the media will say its disappointing.
And what about the way men treat women in private and public life in so many cases
BlueEyes Brittany what about it
What way is that?
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It's not only women's issue. Men's as well or even more.
Interesting talk. Interesting that you have strong opinions of how women are portrayed in the media and the affects this can have on a person. Interesting that you think having a small penis is an issue for people or should be if your partner has one. I understand what you meant by that comment but if you're going to mention gender equality - it swings both ways (pun intended).
Asides from agreeing, or disagreeing with the message (which is quite sound overall), it doesn't address the cause of the problem, only the symptoms! If someone likes chips and you want him to stop eating them and to stop him you take away the chips, as soon as you aren't there an he has access to the chips he'll start eating them again! Addressing the cause will stop him!
Instead of mocking the market's responsiveness to this kind of advertisement and, instead, analysing the effects of the lack of certain parental figures, or their standards and aptitudes in the developmental process of the child would allow to target the real problem, the cause of "Everything that’s wrong with women in the media".
I'm not saying this is the only cause, but whichever the causes may be, it is there that people need to work, not on the effects, for the same reason that a painkiller doesn't cure diseases!
Oh and to Edit a point it: This may, or may not have to do with feminism, but has little to do with equal rights!
Not really related, but she looks like D'arcy Carden...
Why make jokes about something some men feel really insecure about? To make yourself feel better, or just to have a laugh? Sad. You have belittled (pun intended) any argument you might have had in regards to woman in the media. You're being a hypocrite.
RosElisabeth Some poor female will suffer for that comment from her...bitches just don't get it
11:09 ..............
I'd be willing to bet that most of these ads were produced by women. A guy wouldn't have such a good understanding of what female buttons to push.
A seventy-two-year-old news broadcaster, Katy Tong is appearing daily on television, good for her, as if a twenty-year-old dressed in hair dye and make-up, with red dripping red lips, for as long as, I am guessing well into her nineties, and as long as the market will allow, and if the market place has anything to do with anything, can be a very long time…just don’t dare to look like a seventy-two-year-old…
j'irais
lol at how she shows things make women insecure and discusses how it's wrong, and then makes a joke playing on male insecurity of having a small penis.
I'm sure it wasn't deliberate or malicious but it's something to consider
You're a man. Feminists are deluded to the point they think that live is all peachy and full of privilege if you are white and male. Men, especially white men, are the last thing this snowflake has been trained to consider.
@@nexusclarum8000 wow, just wow
My god, the strangest thing about this--about her success--is that she merely observed and wrote down what lots of people who are 25 years older than her have been observing forever--that "women's magazines" are ridiculous. The surprise is two-fold: 1. that any women still read them and 2. that saying the obvious would somehow be a watershed moment.
Hopefully she can go forward from here and not become pigeonholed.
+vibratingstring for fuck's sake
Jerome Moody
I suspect you are a lot younger than me.
Saw the latest Cosmo cover today. Same as the last one. How to have amazing sex bla bla bla. She is right. But we've all seen this for 30 years already....
Very simple solution: Don't read stupid magazines.
Something to ponder: Most of these magazines are written by women.
*****
Nope, it's just an observation. A fact. You can facepalm all you want, it doesn't make it less true.
+Cinqmil something else to ponder: most of th CEO's of these magazines are men and the women working for them are completing assignments without much say as to what the subject matter is
Saf iya
Doesn't matter. It just proves that weak women sucking up to men are the role models of young girls. Women make this shit. Don't blame the men for it.
+Cinqmil I wouldn't say doing the job that gets your paycheck and feeds the family "sucking up". Let me guess, you've never had to hold your tongue at a manager to keep your job, even if what they're doing is stupid?
Lucy Risst
Where do you live? Some medieval town?
Today your job is a free choice: you don't have to do it. They want to do it.
Besides the argument that all the CEOs are men doesn't hold up. I know a lot of girly and female magazines, made only by women. It's even hard to get a job there as a man. Guess what? All those magazines follow the same pattern:
BOYS-STUFF TO MAKE YOU LOOK BETTER - DIETARY ADVICE - COOKING RECIPES - HOW TO MANIPULATE BOYS - CLOTHING TIPS TO HIDE YOUR FLABBY PARTS - MAKE UP and RANDOM PSYCHOLOGICAL MUMBO JAMBO.
Just go out and buy one. It's all the same magazine: made by women, for women.
I'm thinking of giving a tedx speech. it's gonna be about using a washing machine vs hand washing... and probably they're going to let me go on stage because looks like the topics don't really have to make sense or have substance.
I hope everybody in the audience is either female or gay males since they're the ones who run women's fashion magazines and dicate how they're protrayed.
... Not a word about family ... Not a word about children having to raise themselves with very little adult supervision.... Not a word about lost generations having to deal with the polarization of gender equality... This is a lecture with no indication of promoting dialogue.
Translation: Waaaaahhh, someone wasn't talking about my values and instead spoke about what was advertised in the title of the video, waaaahhhhh!!!
This talk is targeting specific issues about women body standards, not bloody poverty
@@dunkybouy who's talking about poverty
mens health has sections that speak about pleasing your woman, right? so why is she only using cosmo? men also deal with living up to a social standard through media. so her point seems bias.
She picked a subject for her talk and it was not men but women's adds. Just listen to it and think about it, without going 'Oy, but what about men!?'
Fresh Krispy Kreme. Stretches. 😉
hahaha
my boyfriend wanted me to strip tease ..
Bruh...
And you've never wanted him to do anything, right?
Don't buy or read this trash. It's like the nasty fast food. Don't buy it, don't consume it!
OK. I have heard the talk. And I am not bothered.
How is this exclusive to women? Everybody is targeted male or female, old or young, in magazines and in any other media outlet. How is this a women and not a cultural problem I'm not sure, but everyone is targeted, however not everyone is effected. Self-esteem is short for Self-estimation. Key word here being "self". If you look for other sources for validation, such as media image, they are everywhere and hardly apply to women only. I wish this was not based on the gender but culture. Because its a cultural issue not a gender issue.
I'm sorry but if it isn't clear to you how women are sexualised and made insecure way more, than that just means you're vision is clouded by your straight white male privilige
Krunoslav Stifter Why do men have the pathological need to make EVERYTHING all about them?
Krunoslav Stifter If you have not learned by now our lives today is all about the bitches..
+Katie Smith Spoilt brats get used to having everything their own way.
+Katie Smith equality is about focussing on both genders.
Want to hear a joke? -- Women's rights.
+Kalah King I like how in your comment saying men are wrong, you used the wrong version of the word "They're" haha fail.
*****
Yeah, so the joke is men thinking that men possess right huh? lol It's bad enough you screwed up while insulting someone. Don't make it worse by trying to justify it.
+Roy Mustang I have better joke. Feminism = Equality.
So funny.. the gf tries strip tease. She triggers and traumatizes her new age boyfriend. She cuddles him as he cries ..
It's so terrible how media play on womans insecurities...... so let me make fun of male insecurities.
Is she complaining because fashion, dumb people, and advertising exists? I don't get the point.
Best comment
thats a man LOL
It's a little disturbing how even TED talks continue to under represent minority women & women of color in these presentations. Progressive policy is to lend a voice to the underprivileged & the disenfranchised. Yet, the very women in Western society who still suffer the most from conservatism & the religious right, and who are lacking in social mobility and financial independence most often, are time & again finding themselves sidelined in favor of upper-middle class white women.
In the year 2015, something about this mentality is becoming very worrying.
Watch their other videos. I have watched a dozen of their other videos of women and this is the first white woman I've seen.
Eirik Magnus Larssen So do you actually have proof that minorities and women are applying to give TED talks and are being turned over due to discrimination?
Ophelia Bloom
Social scientists have extensively documented the discrimination of women of color in Western media outlets in favor of upper-middle class white females. The most chilling example of the phenomenon was uncovered by a Canadian team of social anthropologists, who were studying the representation of minorities in Western media. They ascertained that women of color who go missing receive on average 27 times (!) less news coverage than missing white women do. Social scientists have since come to formally describe this virulent and systematic discrimination of minority women in the Western media as "Missing White Woman Syndrome". The phenomenon is prevalent in Western media outlets to such an extent that it was deemed to have sufficient relevance to merit its own own article on the English Wikipedia pages. I invite you to reflect on that.
My remarks here are intended as an indictment of this institutionalized discrimination in the Western media at large, and to force debate about this issue. One can reasonably assume that either a sympathy for or a genuine belief in White Supremacy politics is involved behind this phenomenon, which is reason enough for me to act. Also, when social scientists present people with well-documented evidence about a level of discrimination in popular media that brings to mind South Africa during the days of Apartheid, and their first reflex is to start shooting the messenger, complete with vitriol and hatred, what does that tell us?
Eirik Magnus Larssen Don't bother trying to explain. People who say shit like "Herp, do you have documented evidence that racism is a thing, derp?" have NO interest in what you have to say because it doesn't validate their racist but no-I'm-totally-not-racist-because-I-have-black-friends bullshit. As to the ridiculous point your heckler was trying to make, even if there are no black women applying or organizing Ted Talks, that still speaks volumes on the limits we put on women of color in the first place....but white supremacy is a nice mindset if you can talk yourself into it I suppose. I'm with you Eirik!
Katie Smith I didn't ask for evidence that 'racism is a thing', you moron, I was speaking specifically about TED talks, because accusing an entire organization of holding racist attitudes is a strong claim that requires proof.
And no, if there are no black women applying for or organizing TED talks, it doesn't speak volumes about shit because an organization can't include people who don't WANT to be included. The only alternative is treating black people like special needs children by creating special integration programmes which imply that they have to imitate whites to be truly 'equal'.
Complete and utter womansplaining mediocrity?!
Here's what men want. At home Martha Stewart out to dinner play etc Jackie Onassis and in the bedroom Linda Lovelace.
That doughnut thing was a great idea. I mean, just use one that's got a decently resilient and elastic structure, and that could be a lot of fun. No matter how well-endowed you are, it's well worth the effort to find a doughnut that makes it work.
Anyways, I stopped watching after that, because this woman's priorities are clearly out of whack.
Tl;Dw "Everything to do with women in the media is like so wrong. I'm like so whats right."
Okay sweetheart you had your 15 seconds of fame.
Her dress is so attractive....
I love that this talk is indicative of how feminism is the grand symptom of social collapse. Once civil order falls away, you'll see how quickly these banal first world problems fall by the wayside once food and water become constable resources.
"There are no feminists in a house fire."
- Bill Burr
my god she's hot. i wish she was my girlfriend
EyesOfTheLion 11 saw pieces of her behind and I must say I'm very impressed.
She looks so much like a boy in an 80's hair metal wig.
"Me and my friend decided to set up this online magazine..." is a quote taken from about the minute point of this talk. What if she set up the magazine by herself...would she have said "Me decided to set up this online magazine..."? No? Then why say "Me" (object of the action) when "I" (subject of the action) is the correct word?
I listened to the whole talk, but almost stopped when she made this grammar mistake because her credibility lessened.
She doesn't know how the advertising buisiness works and now she is saying it's sexism? Wake up and complian about real issues
Because eating disorders, suicide, plastic surgery for the wrong reasons, anxiety over fitting in and the pressure to either sexualize or de- sexualize yourself at younger and younger ages are not real issues for both men and women ....
Sex sells. That will never change.
When women stop preferring men who are tall, dominant, successful, have good jobs and make a lot of money, then maybe some men might be interested in women who aren't physically attractive and sexy. But I don't see either thing happening any time soon.
i don't care as long as you area good person, and have clean hands and face when hitting on me, and have to be smart cuz I'm smart...then your game..at least in my book, oh and funny/playful...cuz I'm funny/playful too...
Found the friendzone whiner.
No, I figured out how to stay out of the friend zone. But most men haven't. I was just commenting on what goes on generally. Women want rich guys, men want attractive women. Make up, hair styles, certain clothing which accentuates women's appearance, will increase the number of men who are attracted to a woman. And despite the desire of so many women to have men not care about what a woman looks like, it isn't going to happen, because we've evolved to find certain things more attractive than others. A few of these things, a 70% waist to hip ratio, healthy looking skin, hair, good teeth, clear complexion, all things that coincidentally coincide with health and the ability to have healthy offspring.
D.E.B. B That's all false. Women are humans too you know, we don't read off a script and all go for the exact same kind of guy. Women value emotional connection with their partner and aren't all gold diggers looking for a tall dominant man.
Found the incel
"Feminism is about gender equality" her funniest line of the night.
After listening to her, I am more affirmed that a world under feminist totalitarianism, it would be a cold, barren, humorless, oppressive, bland, uncreative dark world. It must be convenient to blame men for the choices and decisions women make for themselves that sometimes don't work out. She's complaining about petty aesthetics no one with the ability to think for themselves allows themselves to be emotionally crippled by.
Its interesting how feminist have no problem with constant images of men getting assaulted in the genitals for comedy or fathers in endless sitcoms portrayed as either pedophiles, incompetent, absent, feckless and intellectually deprived. Yet you don't see men and fathers carry on as if it's an absolute true statement about men.
Oh, and there is absolutely zero observable evidence that feminism PRACTICES gender equality. Entitlement is not equality.
***** I would be surprised that any had anything sympathetic to say about men in any format. in practice, feminism believes the primary endeavor of men, the world and the universe should revolve around exclusive deference to women. Broadly speaking, the only consistent thing feminism has to say about men is we're rapist, abusers and oppressors, And only feminism and feminists can set the standard for how men should live and exist, as well as truly believe, only feminism is so completely absolutely the expression of higher morality and ethics that it and it alone is qualified to define and determine the lived experiences and identities of the male gender more than the men who live them.
WARNING: Political Incorrectness Ahead!
The way she's dressed really undermines her message.
+TheUnatuber No, it doesn't. If she were dressed in shiny, skintight synthetic crap with her boobs pushed up to her neck, had on stiletto heels and tons of lip gloss (let's not forget twerking), yeah, that would undermine her message. She's obviously comfortable in what she's wearing. This is not a CFM outfit. CFM clothes are NOT comfortable, they don't look comfortable and they're not meant to be comfortable. I guess if she were wearing a boxy suit with a blouse that has a big bow at the neck she'd be more credible. Yeah, right.
A burka would be nice...
Black Eunuch A burka is exactly what you should be wearing. Absolutely.
JITN, I was taking about her breasts.
she should be wearing a burqa.
it's the most feminist outfit that came from the most feminist religion.
It's always the ugly ones trying to change the status quo...
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