How To Write CVs with a Hornby Select
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- A beginners guide to programming CVs with a Hornby Select. "Can Hornby Selects write CVs??" Yes!!! If you need a firmware upgrade I will show you how to check and what to do if you need one (and how much it will cost).
Using two real life examples that a lot of people encounter and are easy to overcome, improving the performance of your DCC locos. The first is changing the sound levels of my Class 37 and my Tornado. The second example is fixing the slow running performance of my Class 37, it is a common problem that faces many locos after the installation of a TTS chip, not just a Class 37.
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CV changes to fix the Class 37 slow running stutter.
CV 150 to 1; 151 to 255; 152 to 1; 153 to 255 and 154 to 1. I can’t take any credit for these, my favourite TH-camr Jerry Allen of Kampala Road came up with the fix.
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Tried to do as you said with my new Digitrax sound decoder. But after LA when I'm pressing 0.... It's showing on the display. But after that when I'm pressing function...... Neither CA is showing nor the red light flashing. Display showing the 0 and its blinking.
My Hornby Select is 4 years old. I think older versions are not capable to change CVs.
Hi HO, yes, please refer to 2:14, that will explain how to check what firmware you have and whether you need an upgrade and helpfully how to go about getting it done. Cheers for the comment.
Very informative, my select is 15 so I'm going to send it in for an upgrade.
Thank you.
Good man Martin, glad you enjoyed. You’ll get good service from them and it’s still 15 quid, which hasn’t increased in years. Bargain. I hope you have many more years use out of it. Glad you found it informative. All the best.
I haven't got a Select, but thanks for quite an interesting video.
Hi Allen. Thanks for the nice comment. Yeah I think even without a select some of the slow running stuff is interesting. Cheers.
Thank you, big help.
You are most welcome, thanks for the kind comment.
Très bien fait, merci. Il est possible de déplacer une fonction (Coupler Clank F15 à
Bonjour, très bien fait, merci. ils est possible de placer une fonction par une autre (exemple la fonction n°15° la place a la place de la n°5°)
I’ve got a select can you tell me all cv settings for stopping juddering on tts decoders
brilliant videos and instruction on how to change CV using Select Controller. Now a little confused as I purchased my Select as a used unit, I sent of my Select to Hornby for upgrade which they did and returned it back to me, So when I switch the Unit ON I get on my display start as 16-30--03 but you had I think 20-30-03 is that because of the age of my Select being an older unit??
Hi Dalip, I’m glad you enjoyed. Thanks for the nice comment. Yeah that’s right your firmware is 1.6, the newer units are 2.0 hence the codes. But you can still get yours to do what it needs to do?
Hi Mate Merry Christmas to you thank you for the heads up thats all my loco CV's done cheers Mate!
Hi Mate, very glad you got them done. Merry Christmas to you too and Happy New Year!
@@AberHaltJunction you too Mate stay safe!
@@AberHaltJunction Lol.... i had to turn the sound down on the 125 my wife said it sounded like Glasgow Queen st after work on a friday night!
That’s too funny!! I know what she means, my 37 was soooo loud drowned out everything else…. Although I did quite enjoy it 😉😉
@@AberHaltJunction i could listen to diesel locomotives all day! i just bought a second hand class 66 Bachmann DB Schenker from Ebay looking forward to getting it! i tried to get a 66 sound decoder as well fat chance! they've all been snapped up! even Hornby have ran out! been busy with the mobile layout my wife bought me LED fllodlights & small LED's for my goods shed too along with railway trackside workers for my Christmas. I;m selling my Marshall Guitar Amp so I can buy the Bachmann class 66 Evening star.
Thank you so much for this video. I was really confused about what these CVs are and how to set them through select. Can you make more videos on CVs so that i can see what more can be done. I have subscribed to your channel.
Hi Desh, thanks for the really great comment. Yeah sure I can, they’re very powerful and the Select is a great tool so will make some more. Cheers for the subscription, I appreciate it!
Can you please tell me how to give three digit CVs in select. For example long press select then press 0 followed by function button and then three digit CV.
Hi Desh, sure, this puzzled me for a while too. There are a couple of examples of me doing it in this video and also in my Class 37 TTS install video (the really long one), as I was improving the slow running performance and to do that you needed to select CV 255. All you need to do is long press 1 ( if it is greater than 100) or long press 2 (if it is greater than 200). Hope that fixes it for you. Cheers!
Sure Desh, you either long press “1” if it is 100-199 or long press “2” if it is 200 or greater. Cheers. Hope this helps.
Top video I need to get mine sent off for update , quick question do you know what mode or what it means what the controller flashing A1 ? Right I just read in comments you have a video on sound too so off to watch more .
Thanks again 😁👍
Hi Scott, glad you enjoyed! Thanks for the view and nice comment. Hope you enjoyed the sound video too! As for A1, yes that’s for consorts address 1, sounds like you were trying to put two locos together? Cheers!
@@AberHaltJunction Ha ha Yer I think I was
Thanks again 👍
No worries!
Hi - your knowledge is excellent - this controller obviously has hidden talents! Mine was bought on ebay without box/manuals and has version 11. Does this explain why I am not getting sounds from my loco with its new Next18, just F0 when I try - although it wont even talk to my loco any more anyway?
Hi Airshow, potentially, a firmware upgrade may certainly help, although if it’s not talking to your loco that may be a bigger problem…. Have you tried setting the loco address again or doing a reset in the chip, and checking still seated properly? I hope some of these work, thanks for the view and very nice comment. I love air shows, am going to check out your channel….
Bonjour, vous êtes toujours de bon conseil, je voussoie de
Merci Raymond, de rien.
Bonjour, je voulais vous remercier pour votre gentillesse, le conseil d'enlevé, les isolants, entre le circuit intérieur extérieur cet avérait très bon et tout marche à merveille.
Une question, s'il vous, mon Select fait 15W mais la sortie pour les rails et de 6 amp seulement,
est normal???.
Mes locos sont la plupart de DC transforme en DCC monte par moi, il est, mais semble qu'elle non pas la pêche, quels nos pas force. Auriez-vous un ide pour les améliorer. Encore millet une fois Merci. Cordialement Raymond
You are very welcome Raymond, happy it turned out well. Bom chance!
Hello, I have a small problem, one of but colo, this disconnected from the DCC network, passing some switches, is some other place, have the possibility to add a capacitor, of 16x1000/ 25x100 on the auxiliary decoder for this little setback, I saw that some American decoders, we have a capacitor. Thank you in advance.
Regards Raymond Bonjour, J’ai un petit problème, un de mais colo, ce déconnecté du réseau DCC, au passage de certains commutateurs, est certain autre endroit, avoir la possibilité d’ajouter un condensateur, de 16x1000 / 25x100 sur l’auxiliaire du décodeur pour ce petit contretemps, je vu que certains décodeurs Américains, on un condensateur. Merci d'avance.
Cordialement Raymond
Hi Raymond, you can indeed, you can modify the points to make them operate better (electrically) and yes you can also add a stay alive capacitor that is suitable for your decoder. Good luck!
Hi Aber Halt Junction, I had recently sent my hornby controller to Hornby and they upgraded the firmware to 1.6. I have noticed that I can only use the long press on buttons '1' and '2' but not on any other buttons. As I see you have ver 2.0 can you use the long press on other buttons. I hope you understand my query...regards.
Hi Desh, thanks for the view and constructive comment, I think I understand and hope this helps. The functionality of the controller is purported to be the same whether it's 1.6 or 2.0. I can also use the long press only on 1 and 2, I think the highest CV is 255, so there is no need to go any higher. I hope that answers your question. If you are still stuck please get in touch again. Cheers again for the view!
Bonjour, j'ai toujours plaisir à regarder vos vidéos, une question, j'ai deux contrôleurs Select puis les utiliser mon circuit ???, le premier à l'intérieur, le deuxième extérieur, sans les isolés l'un de l'autre ???, s'il faut les isolés, quelle fil il faut isoler le PLUS ou le MOINS. Merci d'avance
Cordialement raymond
Hi Raymond, apologies in my delay in getting back to you, I have been away with work. I have translated your message, but double check as I have relied on google translate, my French is not superb. The short and good answer, is that nothing needs to change in terms of your layout wiring. However how you connect the Selects to the track IS important. You have to connect your first Select as you normally would but then you connect your second Select to the first one (you'll need a special lead, detailed in the manual). DO NOT connect power to the second select. It sends all of it's signals through your first select and it also gets it's power from the first Select. Let me know how you get on.
Hello, I wanted to thank you for your kindness, the removal board, the insulation, between the outdoor indoor circuit this proved very good and everything works perfectly.
One question, if it you, my Select is 15W but the exit for the rails and only 6 amp,
is normal
My locos are most of DC turns into DCC rides by me, it is, but seems that it not fishing, what our not strength. Would you have an ide to improve them. Again millet once Thank you.
Hi Raymond, you are too kind. I am glad everything turned out well. I think the Google translate has gone a bit funny, I think the power production you state is normal. I couldn’t quite make out what you were trying to say about DCC and DC? Are you referring to changing the speed characteristics? Acceleration etc?
Bonjour, le CV que je voudrais changer et d'augmenté le son du claquement de la porte (5) pour donne l'empressions d'accroches des wagons, puisque sur Select, il ne pas possible d'exécuté cet ordre. Merci d'avance. raymond
Hi Raymond, I hope you received my other comment which addresses this.... Let me know if you haven't.
Can you adjust light brightness with the Select controller?
Hi Dilwich, I’ve never done it, but if the lights can be controlled using CVs then there’s no reason that couldn’t be done.
Hi , thanks for the video, followed your instructions but for the life of me I cannot turn down the volume on the loco , it’s far too loud , in this case a Bachmann class 24 sound. I put in CV numbers CV182 suggested by Hornby and then CV266 suggested by Bachmann. I must have done this 20 times and no decrease in sound level. Think the default value is 64 so I put in 10 but no change , any suggestions would be appreciated
Hi Stephen, thanks for the question. What make is your dcc chip? That’s the key thing, the loco could be manufactured by anybody, was it a factory installed (as in dcc included) or did you put the chip in yourself?
Please could you include the descriptions of the 5 CVs so I'm able to transfer the changes to other TTS decodes (just in case they don't match up per decoder).
Just concerned they might not match up the same way the volume control didn't between your Tornado and the Class 37.
Hi there,Just purchased used select controller and firmware is 11, but I’m going to use this for HM DCC legacy dongle, all my locomotives have sound and are already programmed through my original Railmaster Elink controller so wouldn’t need to send the Select off to Hornby ?
I see what you’re saying, yes, that could well be a good trick. I got a second select last week from eBay and may well have the same issue, so may well do the same! Cheers! Great comment.
Bonjour, veille m'excuser de vous embête en coré, je cherche une adresse sur la doc du Contrôleur Select, pour le faire transforme, pour pouvoir améliorer mes CV des décodeurs,aurie vous
Hi Raymond, which specific CV are you trying to change?
Hello it is possible to place one function by another (example the function n°15° the place has the place of n°5°)
Hi Raymond thanks of the views, follow and the comments. I think I understand your question, yeah it’s not possible to change the function with the Select unfortunately. Why would you want to out of interest?
@@AberHaltJunction Bonjour Aber la
fonction accrochages ou attelage et la N° 15 et la fonction
5
Bonjour, veille m'excuser de vous embête en coré, je cherche une adresse, pour envoyer mon Contrôleur Select, pour l'amélioré, en s'y faire les transformations que vous faites, dans votre démonstration ici. Cordialement raymond
Hi Raymond, thanks for the comment and view, I have given you a full response in your most recent comment. Cheers AHJ.
Bonjour, j'un petit problème, une de mais colo, ce coupé du réseau DCC, au passage de certains aiguillages, est certain autre endroit, ai t'il possible d'ajouter un condensateur, sur l'auxiliaire du décodeur pour ce désagrément disparaissent. Merci avance. Cordialement raymond
Hello, I a little problem, one of but colo, this disconnected from the DCC network, at the passage of some switches, is certain other place, have it possible to add a capacitor, on the auxiliary of the decoder for this inconvenience disappear. Thank you in advance. Regards raymond
Hi Raymond, you certainly can. Search “stay alives”, you should find one for your decoder. You can also look to add electrofrog points, or also look to modify insulfrog points, depending on your particular problem. Also clean track and clean wheels helps. Good luck!
Great informative video, but the Hornby TTS decoder doc for Class 37 says CV 151 & CV 152 effect CV 150 = 0 (algorithm 1). Is there an error in the doc or algorithm?
CVs153 and 154 are applicable to CV150 when set to value 1 ( algorithm 2).
All in the TTS manual.
@@brat96th That was my point - why change CVs151 & 152 if CV150 is set to 1
Hi Mike, I borrowed this fix from Jerry Allen of Kampala Road, all I know is it results in very smooth running in my 37, there may be some superfluous changes but it works. Also worked on somebody else’s 47. Glad you enjoyed the video. I’ll do some more research and update my details accordingly . Thanks for the feedback.
Cheers Rop. Will update, and let Jerry know too.
Hi AHJ, yes I found your video again. I did what you did, and that's when you plugged the power into the select watch for the first numbers to come on, mine showed 11, does that mean it needs an upgrade by Hornby?
Yeah you’re at 1.1. 15 quid direct with Hornby. Assuming you need to write CVs? You don’t necessarily need them for loco sounds. It Allows you to alter running speeds and loco volumes etc.
@@AberHaltJunction Thanks for getting back to me, didn't quite understand the answer...I thought that once you set the speed via the dial one can enter another loco CV and set the speed for that one. However, a more pressing problem I've got is getting sound, have you done a video on what buttons to press to get sound sounding, if you know what I mean.
Hi Idris I have indeed. I have two videos on getting sound in your locos. Typically function 1 will get the sounds on your locos “sounding”. So switch f1 to on. Also f2 is often a horn which is easy to spot. Hope that helps.
And to be more specific on my previous answer. Yeah of course you can adjust running speeds just with the control knob. I was referring to acceleration and deceleration characteristics which you alter in cvs.... also if you have poor running TTS locos you can sometimes improve that through cv settings... Sorry I wasn’t clear.
Bonjour, apparemment vous utilisez le Select
de chez Hornby, je voudrais utiliser un transformateur 15 v 20 ampères, est possible. Merci D'avance. Cordialement raymond
Hello, apparently you are using Select
from Hornby, I would like to use a transformer 15 v 20 amperes, is possible. Thank you in advance. Regards raymond
Hi Raymond, I certainly don’t think a 20A transformer would be wise, I will check on the weekend but I think the supplied transformer is only 1A. Did your controller not come with a transformer? You can probably get a replacement one from eBay or maybe even hornby.
I just plugged mine in and it's 11, shame. Top video though!
Your welcome Kal, glad you enjoyed, shame on your firmware! Lucky it’s a simple enough fix if you can be without your controller for a bit….
@@AberHaltJunction I'll manage without upgrading it, I'm using an Arduino with DCC++, I use JMRI to update the CV's on my decoders. Even wrote some middleware to control my layout from a tablet 👍
@@AberHaltJunction are you heading down to the expo down the bay today? I'm going to head down tomorrow, will be my first model rail expo, super excited!
Oh wow, now that’s some skills!! Bravo! Yeah no need to update :)
I would’ve loved to have gone down! Annoyingly I’m away, Murphy’s law!
Hello, please excuse me for bothering you in Korea, I am looking for an address, to send my Controller Select, when opening my controller display number 11 and not number 20, if the improved, is to make the transformations you are doing, in your demonstration here. Regards raymond
Bonjour, veille m'excuser de vous embête en coré, je cherche une adresse, pour envoyer mon Contrôleur Select, à l'ouverture mon contrôleur afficher le n° 11 et pas le n° 20, en si l'amélioré, est faire, les transformations que vous faites, dans votre démonstration ici. Cordialement raymond
Hi Raymond, yes that is correct, it sound like you have firmware version 1.1. If you send it back to Hornby they can update the firmware for you for £15 (plus postage). Email Hornby and explain to them what shows on startup etc and they will tell you about the updating. This is who I emailed researching this video: technicalservices.uk@hornby.com
Let me know how you get on.
Korea I think he’s in, I wonder how he got on 🤔
Yes! Me too.
Thank you in advance, I am panicked, I am afraid to burn my second Select, my first ides, Aure was a meter insulator in the rail less, between my inner circuit, my circuit, outside, ( the outer circuit can serve as a spatial circuit?????)
Merci d'avance, je suis paniqué, j'ai peur de cramer mon deuxième Select, mes premières ides, Aure étai de mètre un isolant dans le rail moins, entre mon circuit intérieur, mon circuit, extérieur,( le circuit extérieur peut servir de circuit spatial ???? )
Hi Raymond, with DCC you can have them both, no need for isolators. However make sure you connect the Selects together and ensure you do not have two power supplies, only one is required.
Hi mate very informative ! i have bought 2 R8249 decoders and have been told the select wont work with those decoders? have you had any trouble with the select?
Hi David, no, to date all of the decoders I have used with the Select have been fine. I'm going to get another one to put in my David Lloyd George and will let you know if that one gives me any problems. I have a fleet of around 9 locos I think with various decoders and they are all fine...
@@AberHaltJunction Hi Mate thank you for the valuable reply Just discovered its not been Firmware updated its sitting at 10 when it starts up then goes to 30 then 03.. i did not know this till i seen your video.. thank you for he heads up much appreciated! i have two Hornby points modules which are the new type and I was going to go through the long set up of wiring the modules & points to my set up before finally locating the whole layout and lo and behold the select is needing an update I bought the select from ebay but the shop never stated it needed an update! I'm the old Hammant & Morgan school DC type and just moved to DCC as well what a let down at my first go!
You’re welcome mate, I almost did the same thing! At least it’s not an expensive mistake (unlike some things in this hobby! :) ) welcome to the dcc world, and don’t worry it’s plain sailing from here… it’s only 2 wires after all!!!
@@AberHaltJunction cheers mate sorry another thing: were your locos running ok before the update?
Hi mate, I didn’t have to update mine, I just did the research on cost etc for the video. However I don’t think not having the update would have made much difference apart from what I show in the vid. Hope this helps. Cheers.
Get to the bloody point!
Or do you mean turnout? 🤔