At 7:05, the reason for this is that the original 1176 (and presumably this pedal) has a ~1ms attack time on the lowest attack setting. On the highest setting, it's microseconds. Almost all other compressors will max out in the millisecond range. So basically this compressor's slowest attack is most other compressors' fastest attack, meaning you don't notice it "kick in" as much, it begins working almost imperceptibly once it's fed input with very little transient signal getting through.
Pretty much anytime you have a question like this- go to the JHS pedals TH-cam channel and you'll find a video or two explaining it. Compressors are used in multiple ways for multiple different reasons- it all depends on what you're looking for and how you set it up. Lots of ppl will use them to add sustain and little bit of a volume lift to a solo, like a boost but you're not adding more grit or saturation- just more sustain and volume. This is usually going to be a milder compression with a slower attack time. Some ppl use them to help get rid of their pick attack, which means they want a super-fast attack time- shredders often use them this way. Because they're using a up/down pick attack- if they don't- you just hear "click, click, click, click..." Angling the pick just right also helps tremendously with this- and the added sustain makes legato lines flow much better. Then country music lead pickers use it to get that whiny, super nasally, clean sound- funk players use it to help squash some of the dynamics, kill some low end, and tighten down on the sound so it doesn't run over itself and sound too muddy. They are subtle- but necessary- and can be finnicky- you have to learn which ones are known for which applications, and how to set them up properly. The 1176 or Cali was used to overdrive the preamp on the board- usually a Neve preamp- and create a very unique DI distortion- Black Dog by Zepplin is a great example of this trick. It was used extensively this way throughout the 70s.
The pedals and guitar all sound great. I almost never like any kink of compression, but the 1176 "feedback" Compressor is outstanding and is something I'd use.
I actually like that it isn't app enabled and prefer that. I already have to connect so many things to other things when I play. I don't want to have to connect to bluetooth and fiddle through my app - one of the reasons why I didn't like the Yamaha THR, i want to access everything in one place.
Being a Cali76 fan, I'd like to see an 1176 shootout. Then there's the Compadre which is more versatile. I run them both in parallel, series and before/after pre-amp and drives. If there was a presetable (new word 🤗) Cali76 I'd be all in. Surprises me that the Single /Dual/Sustain mode isn't foot switchable.
i don't get on with compression or 'verb, but i have to say that 'straight into the desk' stuff from the 1176 is superb, and the decay/eqing on the evermore is breathtaking! if i could afford these i'd snap them both up.
About the 1176. If you are thinking about the Cali76 by Original Audio pedals, that pedal cannot distort. It was specifically designed to compress without distortion, which is not how an actual 1176 behaves … still a lovely pedal though.
1176 is in the attck nob...it is stupidly quick at clamping down...not milliseconds but micro seconds...play with the attack and realease nobs..this pedal will be able to do most if not all what other compression pedals will be able to do....
That was my instant reaction too when he said it, but presumably that's in comparison with their rack gear? (A single 1176 LN will set you back around £2500, so if you want to run a pair of them in series or parallel like this pedal emulates, you're talking £5000).
@@retrocausality8039 Actually that's relative to their other line of pedals- which are digital, very high end, and run about 400 bucks a piece. I run their Lion '68 - which is their version of a '68 Plexi. You get three flavors of the Plexi-a 68 Bassman, a 68 Plexi, and a 68 Plexi modded for the Brown sound Eddie Van Halen made so popular. It's sounds amazing- but it interfaces with your phone and computer to work properly, and ppl wanted something simpler, that costed less money.
Can we get an "All About the Bass" demo of these by Cici and Lee? I'm particularly curious to hear the 1176 and see what Cici does with Evermore's ambient capabilities.
Here's the thing,, unlike most every other compressor, when you turn the release control on an 1176 clockwise it's getting FASTER. Meaning it's releasing back to no compression faster (which you can actually see on the LED) so you're getting shorter sustain effect.
You should do a power supply shoot out. I just got the big Iso Brick because I didn't know what else to get. Here's who goes in it: The Voodoo Lab thing The Iso Brick from MXR The big Engine Room from Fender The Zuma from Strymon and a crate of 9v batteries and 9v batteries with jumpers wired in series
In the video The Captain says that UA are "late to the game" to package an 1176 type compressor in a guitar pedal. But as I understand it this is NOT what UA has done even now. This is as far as I can tell a digital emulation of the 1176, not an analog circuit, in contrast to several competitors. So in my book UA are still not in the game. It doesn't mean the pedal sounds bad, but still... not quite the same thing. Perhaps not an issue for someone using modelling amps etc, but personally, i tend to want a purely analog guitar signal up to the AD converters in the sound card.
Keith Scott's solos on Cuts Like A Knife, especially the tag solo ; required learning in Canadian bar band circles when I was a young guit-fiddler . Keith Scott is easily as important as Kim Mitchell, Jeff Healey , Rik Emmett , Randy Bachman, Robbie Robertson, Daniel Lanois and dare I say it, Alex Lifeson in the guitar pantheon in Canada, .
@@mr.d.572 I'm sure you could get there with some work. Hitting the feel, the phrasing and vibrato will take some time to finesse as well as emulating Keith's tone. Like Mike Campbell, Keith is not a shredder, but a taste player and the rewards you can gain from studying their phrases and feel will make you a better player.
@@averyadrian1534 A big omission. Especially as Gordie played my guitar about a dozen years ago at the Peter Narvaez Memorial Jam at The Fat Cat bar in St. John's, NL. Great player, and Big Sugar was, and is, a great band .
I wouldn't call these affordable, I'd call them slimmed down. Still great pedals, now I just wish they'd add midi to their big pedal, no midi on a digital pedal in that price range is crazy, I can get analogue pedals with midi in that range.
allright, I subbed and like. I am the with a beautiful 1959 Strat en a 1964 Vox ac 10.........( and a wah).....so way pedals????? Well I began to feel the addiction. Shall i give in? Still not in love with the plug-ins thuth my Headphone or speakers....Cuz Vox speakers sounds like heavan. Recording wise plug ins are really great. But that live sound from my amp, give me the most feeling trough my fingers and Brain. So are pedals the next step? Glad you try them out cuz where are the guitarshops. Nice work guys!
I need to upgrade my compressor and love the tones you were getting with UA 1176 in this video. Before pulling the trigger I have to consider what else is available... the more expensive Universal Audio UAFX Max Preamp & Dual Compressor appears to be much more versatile. Wondering... is it worth the extra cost? It's about $100 more and was released earlier this year. I'd be grateful for any feedback. Thanks.
Great question, I wonder the same. I have watched videos on both and the only thing I really liked on the smaller pedal was the sustain mode. It's awesome. Everything else seemed better on the bigger pedal.
@@mr.d.572 Agreed. The sustain mode is a good sounding setting... but the dual setting isn't much use unless you want to do a cover version of "Black Dog"...which I've no interest in. I'm leaning towards getting the Max Preamp & Dual Compressor. It would be useful for acoustic guitar, vocals and other instruments. And since it has 2 compressors the "sustain" sound should be achievable running them in series. I have to check if it's possible to blend in the dry signal as that's an important feature for me. The small version in this video has a switch to mix the dry signal but I believe it's one setting, you can't control the amount of dry signal. Then there are other compressors from different companies.... decisions, decisions!
I'm diggin' the 1176. To me, the others would be better in stereo, so I'm not in love with them. (They sound really nice, they're just not what _I_ would be looking to put on _my_ pedalboard.) But a compressor goes before the stereo section of my effects, so I'm going to have to keep that 1176 in mind. Great playing by Pete, as usual, great video all around. Keep up the good work.
Dude I think I'm more triggered by a PRS headstock on a Tele than the whole internet was by the PRS headstock on the Strat. I'm glad you like it and hope you can get one someday though. LOL!
I hated the expensive original releases because they had too many features, too big for a lot of boards, and the bluetooth connectivity and feature gating until you registered the product was just unfortunate behavior from a company; I bought the pedal, don't make me bluetooth connect to unlock the rest. These are much more sane it seems like.
Didn’t UA release these a few months back? I’m just not sure why if you’ve spent £200 on this pedal why you couldn’t save a bit more and get the larger and fully featured original pedals for £100 more. I know UA want to sell you everything and give you all the choice to make you bite on their products, but at this point they are just tinkering with the formula of their already great pedals and spinning their wheels. If it ain’t broke, it doesn’t need a 1/3 re-release. Still waiting patiently for their inevitable Marshall amp simulators and their fuzz and filter pedals to come so things can move forward instead of retracing the old ground yet again of giving you something they already made 2 or 3 years ago.
Laughing my ass off at the compressor. If Pete's getting confused - no amber light no compression - it makes me feel better. I own the Max, the Starlight and the 3 amp pedals. These pedals are way too complex. The Bluetooth and firmware updates were a pain, especially since they were different generations. There are great sounds in there, no doubt. But they are way too complex. Can't imagine using them live. These are a step in the right direction, but...
I feel totally vindicated in my hatred of these pedals with a million different "functions" on them. LOL! I always tell people I feel like I suffer paralysis by analysis when they have all kinds of knobs and switches and things.
@@SimpleManGuitars1973 The journey - where you start, where you are, where you intend to go - also matters. I definitely agree with the paralysis by analysis, though it was so complicated I said screw it and cured that issue. I just found a sound I likes. The learning curve is my problem. I'm retired, doing this on my own, don't play live and have some money to spend and have way less time in the long run. So I decided complexity is a way to educate myself. Like paying for a grad course on audio. With the Dream 65 it more or less worked. The different cabs and tones got me in the ballpark of the sounds I liked. The mods were interesting. So overall, thumbs up, even though I couldn't update the firmware. The Max, the compressor, was a failure, at least for now. But the failure forced me to learn more about them, even if I still don't completely get them. Robert Keeley has a good TH-cam video on them, and I bought his Pro version because it was simpler. However, overall the experience soured me on UA. Which fortunately pushed me to discover Origin Effects, which I love. And I will always choose Strymon over UA in the future. Unfortunately the overall problem didn't go away. I would call it a combinatorial explosion. In some ways Anderton's videos - no matter how valuable, and they are valuable - are demonstrating the pedals in isolation. If Pete was my friend and I lived next door, I'd be building failed pedal chains and asking him every day why they suck. Fun, educational, frustrating. Lots of moving parts.
@@mikem668 Yeah the most compicated pedal I have is the Beetronics ZzomBee but man it's fun. The vast majority of my TH-cam Shorts are an AC30 with like a Fatbee or JRockett Golden Archer. I do have some fun videos with the ZzomBee doing Frankenstein but generally all my pedals are simple and I get along fine with that. I'm sur with patience and know how the other ones could be fun too but I'm a "set it and forget it" guy at this point.
@@SimpleManGuitars1973 I like your set it and forget it goal. Unfortunately, while it sounds simple, gain stacking and knowing whether the pedals play well together complicate it. As does the variety of the music you're interested in. But I agree it's a goal worth seeking.
@@mikem668 Yeah I pretty much know what I want out of my fuzz pedals and what I want out of my delay pedals and I have different overdrives that I think work better for my Les Paul and 335 and ones that work better for my Tele and Strats and I just keep my delay the same all the time as well. Plus really the base tone of a cranked AC30 is really dirty enough that I just have my pedals sorta "barely" there because I love the natural breakup of a Vox so much just in and of itself. I play in a big open room at my house and live on 40 acres and so I can crank my AC30 all the time but I feel really bad for people who have to try and get the sounds they desire at sorta "bedroom" levels. The sound of a cranked tube amp is just heaven to my ears. Which probably explains why I'm constantly asking my wife to repeat herself. But still. LOL!
I like the Orion, but you can honestly get the same sounds and even more options from a DOD Rubberneck, XVive W3 Memory, or some used EHX Deluxe Memory Man. These are also mostly analog and come with the warmth of the BBD chips. UA is just software in a box. If you wanna go digital, TC Electronic Flashback 2 & EHX Canyon offer more sounds/features.
Sure, the 1176 is competing with the Cali76 line of pedals, but they’re all analog and this is still a digital simulation, no? It sounds good, but I don’t want a core effect early in my chain to be digitizing my entire signal. Regardless of price difference, the Cali76 line is still my obvious choice.
why do blues lawers never turn the pedals to maximum?? lee, you didnt put it on "maximum wonk" when you said that. please understand that people wnat to hear pedals at their maximum
Lol😂. $369 Australian is not what I'd consider an affordable pedal. A Behringer or Boss pedal is affordable for example. These are the price of a whole 50 watt Boss Katana or Squier Sonic or Jet Guitar by example. Lol
We need to get to it faster. I love Pete and his guitar, but can you jump into the intro THEN do guitar jams after the teaching? Intro Teaching Demo Teaching Conclusion Jamming that we all gonna skip
At 7:05, the reason for this is that the original 1176 (and presumably this pedal) has a ~1ms attack time on the lowest attack setting. On the highest setting, it's microseconds. Almost all other compressors will max out in the millisecond range. So basically this compressor's slowest attack is most other compressors' fastest attack, meaning you don't notice it "kick in" as much, it begins working almost imperceptibly once it's fed input with very little transient signal getting through.
Please Pete, do a video tutorial about compressors. Settings, how to use them etc!
Look up video’s of using LA2A and 1176 in TH-cam you will get the point fast
Pretty much anytime you have a question like this- go to the JHS pedals TH-cam channel and you'll find a video or two explaining it. Compressors are used in multiple ways for multiple different reasons- it all depends on what you're looking for and how you set it up. Lots of ppl will use them to add sustain and little bit of a volume lift to a solo, like a boost but you're not adding more grit or saturation- just more sustain and volume. This is usually going to be a milder compression with a slower attack time. Some ppl use them to help get rid of their pick attack, which means they want a super-fast attack time- shredders often use them this way. Because they're using a up/down pick attack- if they don't- you just hear "click, click, click, click..." Angling the pick just right also helps tremendously with this- and the added sustain makes legato lines flow much better. Then country music lead pickers use it to get that whiny, super nasally, clean sound- funk players use it to help squash some of the dynamics, kill some low end, and tighten down on the sound so it doesn't run over itself and sound too muddy. They are subtle- but necessary- and can be finnicky- you have to learn which ones are known for which applications, and how to set them up properly. The 1176 or Cali was used to overdrive the preamp on the board- usually a Neve preamp- and create a very unique DI distortion- Black Dog by Zepplin is a great example of this trick. It was used extensively this way throughout the 70s.
TOTALLY agree with all the Keith Scott comments. Seriously under-rated. Love 'im!!!
The pedals and guitar all sound great. I almost never like any kink of compression, but the 1176 "feedback" Compressor is outstanding and is something I'd use.
I actually like that it isn't app enabled and prefer that. I already have to connect so many things to other things when I play. I don't want to have to connect to bluetooth and fiddle through my app - one of the reasons why I didn't like the Yamaha THR, i want to access everything in one place.
Jeeze that demo during the evermore room was beautiful.
Reminded me of Selenium Forest by Plini!
Being a Cali76 fan, I'd like to see an 1176 shootout.
Then there's the Compadre which is more versatile. I run them both in parallel, series and before/after pre-amp and drives.
If there was a presetable (new word 🤗) Cali76 I'd be all in.
Surprises me that the Single /Dual/Sustain mode isn't foot switchable.
That Orion pedal was lush!
And now I'm here, in Brazil, in love with a 1176 pedal which I can't have because we won't have it here till 2043. 🤷🏻♂
Nice job by UAFX to trim the fluff and bring us the stuff we really need at a decent price.
Does shootout 1176 vs Cali76 makes any sense?
Yes
Absolutely.
YES!!!
oh yeah oh yeah 👍🏽👍🏽
If I am not mistaking the Cali76 is a 100% analog circuit whereas this UAFX 1176 is digital emulation? Something to consider to compare them.
Ok, time to reorganise my board to fit these! God damn you, Andertons.
finally, I get a compressor! they all do what they do really well! Simple to use! SOUND AMAZING!
That PRS reminds me a lot of my ASAT Special....love the clarity of those pick ups!
Is it an SE?
It’s the Evermore for me. So amazing. Around 22:00 and on perfect.
i don't get on with compression or 'verb, but i have to say that 'straight into the desk' stuff from the 1176 is superb, and the decay/eqing on the evermore is breathtaking! if i could afford these i'd snap them both up.
I agree with you Pete on the Spring Reverb! It is my preferred Reverb! Great sounding pedals there guys!
Holy f... Oh my days!! That PRS guitar sounds so crispy and great!!!
1176 sounds amazing! And nice shoes!
I don't understand the UAFX lineup of pedals. Are they releasing every single effect 300x but always in different combinations and casings?
I think sometimes that's the reality of guitar pedals anyway 🤨
For each different player. It’s brilliant marketing instead of making 3-5 pedals only.
About the 1176. If you are thinking about the Cali76 by Original Audio pedals, that pedal cannot distort. It was specifically designed to compress without distortion, which is not how an actual 1176 behaves … still a lovely pedal though.
Love the heavenly plate
1176 is in the attck nob...it is stupidly quick at clamping down...not milliseconds but micro seconds...play with the attack and realease nobs..this pedal will be able to do most if not all what other compression pedals will be able to do....
“Affordable” to all you guys apparently means something different than what I’ve been led to believe my whole life! :)
That was my instant reaction too when he said it, but presumably that's in comparison with their rack gear? (A single 1176 LN will set you back around £2500, so if you want to run a pair of them in series or parallel like this pedal emulates, you're talking £5000).
@@retrocausality8039 Actually that's relative to their other line of pedals- which are digital, very high end, and run about 400 bucks a piece. I run their Lion '68 - which is their version of a '68 Plexi. You get three flavors of the Plexi-a 68 Bassman, a 68 Plexi, and a 68 Plexi modded for the Brown sound Eddie Van Halen made so popular. It's sounds amazing- but it interfaces with your phone and computer to work properly, and ppl wanted something simpler, that costed less money.
That power jack is realllly squeezed in there between the input and output. Certain connectors aren't going to fit.
Can we get an "All About the Bass" demo of these by Cici and Lee? I'm particularly curious to hear the 1176 and see what Cici does with Evermore's ambient capabilities.
Here's the thing,, unlike most every other compressor, when you turn the release control on an 1176 clockwise it's getting FASTER. Meaning it's releasing back to no compression faster (which you can actually see on the LED) so you're getting shorter sustain effect.
That PRS with that Friedmann 😍
5:18 Pete dont give a toss does he? big huff whilst the captain is talking .... smooth
Thanks UA for putting the knobs in back. That should be an industry standard
Still the Cali76 is far better and has the DRY/WET is a must!
Great pedals but did you review that PRS? Looks interesting for sure
I love the UA Max and Cali76, but neither of them have replaced the Wampler Ego for me yet.
Universal Affordio
I think Strymon should be a little worried. Not a lot, but... these are nice!
The Captain: I was a bit early there
Pete: You're known for that...
They all sound nice. I don't really need most of them though, although I could use a better compressor pedal than what I currently have.
Dear Lord that NF-53 and the Studio Reverb!! Ugh, I didn’t think I wanted the NF, for sure don’t need another reverb but wow!
You should do a power supply shoot out. I just got the big Iso Brick because I didn't know what else to get. Here's who goes in it:
The Voodoo Lab thing
The Iso Brick from MXR
The big Engine Room from Fender
The Zuma from Strymon
and a crate of 9v batteries and 9v batteries with jumpers wired in series
Cheaper, but still $300+ after tax here in Canada... so not cheap.
On sale now for half price!
€99 each at Thomann… i’ve just ordered the evermore 🙃
Pete be killing it on that NFer✌🏻🎸🎶
In the video The Captain says that UA are "late to the game" to package an 1176 type compressor in a guitar pedal. But as I understand it this is NOT what UA has done even now. This is as far as I can tell a digital emulation of the 1176, not an analog circuit, in contrast to several competitors. So in my book UA are still not in the game. It doesn't mean the pedal sounds bad, but still... not quite the same thing. Perhaps not an issue for someone using modelling amps etc, but personally, i tend to want a purely analog guitar signal up to the AD converters in the sound card.
Keith Scott's solos on Cuts Like A Knife, especially the tag solo ; required learning in Canadian bar band circles when I was a young guit-fiddler . Keith Scott is easily as important as Kim Mitchell, Jeff Healey , Rik Emmett , Randy Bachman, Robbie Robertson, Daniel Lanois and dare I say it, Alex Lifeson in the guitar pantheon in Canada, .
I would love to be able to play that solo. I haven't really looked into it though, and I'm not sure my skills are up to par yet.
@@mr.d.572 I'm sure you could get there with some work. Hitting the feel, the phrasing and vibrato will take some time to finesse as well as emulating Keith's tone. Like Mike Campbell, Keith is not a shredder, but a taste player and the rewards you can gain from studying their phrases and feel will make you a better player.
You missed Gordie Johnson from big sugar
@@averyadrian1534 A big omission. Especially as Gordie played my guitar about a dozen years ago at the Peter Narvaez Memorial Jam at The Fat Cat bar in St. John's, NL. Great player, and Big Sugar was, and is, a great band .
Did they finally get rid of the app necessity?
Hands down. Holy cow!
At 34:32 what freakin pedal did you click on, on the floor? You need to show what your doing...the sound got great, which drive pedal was it? Thanks!
I wouldn't call these affordable, I'd call them slimmed down. Still great pedals, now I just wish they'd add midi to their big pedal, no midi on a digital pedal in that price range is crazy, I can get analogue pedals with midi in that range.
Jesus, my headphones started cracking up at 8:57!
NICE.
allright, I subbed and like. I am the with a beautiful 1959 Strat en a 1964 Vox ac 10.........( and a wah).....so way pedals????? Well I began to feel the addiction. Shall i give in? Still not in love with the plug-ins thuth my Headphone or speakers....Cuz Vox speakers sounds like heavan. Recording wise plug ins are really great. But that live sound from my amp, give me the most feeling trough my fingers and Brain. So are pedals the next step? Glad you try them out cuz where are the guitarshops. Nice work guys!
NF = Noise Factory, Never Fail, New Fangled, Neutron Flux, Nirvana Found, etc... The PRS NF53 is such a nice guitar. I love to own one someday.
I need to upgrade my compressor and love the tones you were getting with UA 1176 in this video. Before pulling the trigger I have to consider what else is available... the more expensive Universal Audio UAFX Max Preamp & Dual Compressor appears to be much more versatile. Wondering... is it worth the extra cost? It's about $100 more and was released earlier this year. I'd be grateful for any feedback. Thanks.
There's the Origin Cali as well
@@NamelessSmile
Yeah.... that's a definite contender!
Great question, I wonder the same. I have watched videos on both and the only thing I really liked on the smaller pedal was the sustain mode. It's awesome. Everything else seemed better on the bigger pedal.
@@mr.d.572
Agreed. The sustain mode is a good sounding setting... but the dual setting isn't much use unless you want to do a cover version of "Black Dog"...which I've no interest in. I'm leaning towards getting the Max Preamp & Dual Compressor. It would be useful for acoustic guitar, vocals and other instruments. And since it has 2 compressors the "sustain" sound should be achievable running them in series. I have to check if it's possible to blend in the dry signal as that's an important feature for me. The small version in this video has a switch to mix the dry signal but I believe it's one setting, you can't control the amount of dry signal. Then there are other compressors from different companies.... decisions, decisions!
Well, I.M.O. Pete could plug his guitar in a tuna fish can, it would still sound awesome.
I'm diggin' the 1176. To me, the others would be better in stereo, so I'm not in love with them. (They sound really nice, they're just not what _I_ would be looking to put on _my_ pedalboard.) But a compressor goes before the stereo section of my effects, so I'm going to have to keep that 1176 in mind.
Great playing by Pete, as usual, great video all around. Keep up the good work.
Well.. liked and subscribed for a loon gme now! Good luck, lads!
I wonder if the first 1,175 compressors were crap.
What the world needed. More pedals.
Hey c'mon, 100 new pedals a week aren't enough.
How do they compare to the smaller strymon pedals? (Brig etc)
The 1176 is very interesting!....
How about comparing these pedals with Strymon?
Damn, that PRS sounds good! Now, with a rosewood board and painted headstock, I'd concider buying it at some point
Dude I think I'm more triggered by a PRS headstock on a Tele than the whole internet was by the PRS headstock on the Strat. I'm glad you like it and hope you can get one someday though. LOL!
I like Cider as well
1176 for the Win!
Imagine having to spend £500+ for two types of reverbs
maybe its Pet's playing but the PRS NF53 is starting to grow on me. Neck position sounds fantastic.
Ya nothing like a 3k telecaster knock off
Dear Paul Reed Smith; Pete needs an NF53 with a purple heartwood top....
theyre on sale now for half the price :p lucky I didnt notice them before
Yeah....... But where is the UAFX. Marshall pedal?
I’ve tried a dozen plugins, pedals, and I’ve got ears, and I still cannot hear what the fuck a compressor does
Yikes 😂
Why not buy the del verb and save a bunch of money if you like the delay and plate verb?
I hated the expensive original releases because they had too many features, too big for a lot of boards, and the bluetooth connectivity and feature gating until you registered the product was just unfortunate behavior from a company; I bought the pedal, don't make me bluetooth connect to unlock the rest. These are much more sane it seems like.
Terrific sounds!
That plate reverb 👌
That guitar though, why?
That Heavenly was, well, heavenly. 😇
Why opt for a digital emulation of a 1176 at 200 bucks when there are so many good analog comp pedals out their in the same range?
Noel, if you're reading this I'm at treble 7, mid 5, bass 3
‘These are mono pedals that don’t have apps’
I’m listening
Man I want an NF 53 so badly.
Would be a no-brainer if they included the plugin versions.
Guitar, what prs is it , thanks
Came for the pedals, stayed for the guitar
Can you get the canadians on the show??
NO one talks about the Milli-amp pull is like 400 at 9Voltd
Didn’t UA release these a few months back? I’m just not sure why if you’ve spent £200 on this pedal why you couldn’t save a bit more and get the larger and fully featured original pedals for £100 more. I know UA want to sell you everything and give you all the choice to make you bite on their products, but at this point they are just tinkering with the formula of their already great pedals and spinning their wheels. If it ain’t broke, it doesn’t need a 1/3 re-release. Still waiting patiently for their inevitable Marshall amp simulators and their fuzz and filter pedals to come so things can move forward instead of retracing the old ground yet again of giving you something they already made 2 or 3 years ago.
Heavenly sounded great!
Love Pete's playing, but fuck me that is a munter of an axe, eeesh!
For pete's sake, turn down the attack knob on that 1176!!!
No mention of the Orion’s “tails” and “preamp” switching? Oops…
No tap tempo kinda kills the idea of the orion for me
This turned into a pink floyd gig real quick!
Did I hear correctly…Duce StringBean?
If UA can simplify their guitar pedal line up, surely they can simplify their customer support model.
Laughing my ass off at the compressor. If Pete's getting confused - no amber light no compression - it makes me feel better. I own the Max, the Starlight and the 3 amp pedals. These pedals are way too complex. The Bluetooth and firmware updates were a pain, especially since they were different generations. There are great sounds in there, no doubt. But they are way too complex. Can't imagine using them live. These are a step in the right direction, but...
I feel totally vindicated in my hatred of these pedals with a million different "functions" on them. LOL! I always tell people I feel like I suffer paralysis by analysis when they have all kinds of knobs and switches and things.
@@SimpleManGuitars1973 The journey - where you start, where you are, where you intend to go - also matters. I definitely agree with the paralysis by analysis, though it was so complicated I said screw it and cured that issue. I just found a sound I likes. The learning curve is my problem.
I'm retired, doing this on my own, don't play live and have some money to spend and have way less time in the long run. So I decided complexity is a way to educate myself. Like paying for a grad course on audio.
With the Dream 65 it more or less worked. The different cabs and tones got me in the ballpark of the sounds I liked. The mods were interesting. So overall, thumbs up, even though I couldn't update the firmware.
The Max, the compressor, was a failure, at least for now. But the failure forced me to learn more about them, even if I still don't completely get them. Robert Keeley has a good TH-cam video on them, and I bought his Pro version because it was simpler.
However, overall the experience soured me on UA. Which fortunately pushed me to discover Origin Effects, which I love. And I will always choose Strymon over UA in the future. Unfortunately the overall problem didn't go away. I would call it a combinatorial explosion. In some ways Anderton's videos - no matter how valuable, and they are valuable - are demonstrating the pedals in isolation. If Pete was my friend and I lived next door, I'd be building failed pedal chains and asking him every day why they suck. Fun, educational, frustrating. Lots of moving parts.
@@mikem668 Yeah the most compicated pedal I have is the Beetronics ZzomBee but man it's fun. The vast majority of my TH-cam Shorts are an AC30 with like a Fatbee or JRockett Golden Archer. I do have some fun videos with the ZzomBee doing Frankenstein but generally all my pedals are simple and I get along fine with that. I'm sur with patience and know how the other ones could be fun too but I'm a "set it and forget it" guy at this point.
@@SimpleManGuitars1973 I like your set it and forget it goal. Unfortunately, while it sounds simple, gain stacking and knowing whether the pedals play well together complicate it. As does the variety of the music you're interested in. But I agree it's a goal worth seeking.
@@mikem668 Yeah I pretty much know what I want out of my fuzz pedals and what I want out of my delay pedals and I have different overdrives that I think work better for my Les Paul and 335 and ones that work better for my Tele and Strats and I just keep my delay the same all the time as well. Plus really the base tone of a cranked AC30 is really dirty enough that I just have my pedals sorta "barely" there because I love the natural breakup of a Vox so much just in and of itself. I play in a big open room at my house and live on 40 acres and so I can crank my AC30 all the time but I feel really bad for people who have to try and get the sounds they desire at sorta "bedroom" levels. The sound of a cranked tube amp is just heaven to my ears. Which probably explains why I'm constantly asking my wife to repeat herself. But still. LOL!
I like the Orion, but you can honestly get the same sounds and even more options from a DOD Rubberneck, XVive W3 Memory, or some used EHX Deluxe Memory Man. These are also mostly analog and come with the warmth of the BBD chips. UA is just software in a box.
If you wanna go digital, TC Electronic Flashback 2 & EHX Canyon offer more sounds/features.
I have an EHX Canyon and it's a very good pedal. I also tend to find really good echo sounds from cheap pedals like Caline or Azor.
Sure, the 1176 is competing with the Cali76 line of pedals, but they’re all analog and this is still a digital simulation, no? It sounds good, but I don’t want a core effect early in my chain to be digitizing my entire signal. Regardless of price difference, the Cali76 line is still my obvious choice.
erm...you do realize that pedals with digital processing inside still output an analog signal right?
@@j79-p9uBut they add latency that analog pedals don’t.
Well no, the Cali 76 is based on Universal Audio's blue stripe 1176 studio compressor...
why do blues lawers never turn the pedals to maximum?? lee, you didnt put it on "maximum wonk" when you said that. please understand that people wnat to hear pedals at their maximum
Ordered one of the 1176 immediately. It was only $199!!
These sound great! But the price is $200.. for $100 more you can get the full featured UAFX pedal instead of these less feature versions 🤷🏽♂️🥸🤔
Lol😂. $369 Australian is not what I'd consider an affordable pedal. A Behringer or Boss pedal is affordable for example. These are the price of a whole 50 watt Boss Katana or Squier Sonic or Jet Guitar by example. Lol
Please give Pete something to blow his nose clean⚘️🎸🎶
He’s got his sleeve:)
Imagine that Anderton’s, Peach and Thomann all coincidentally did a video on the same products on the same day!
We need to get to it faster. I love Pete and his guitar, but can you jump into the intro THEN do guitar jams after the teaching?
Intro
Teaching
Demo
Teaching
Conclusion
Jamming that we all gonna skip
I never run stereo anyway.
That Orion is killer. May have to break my pedal fast