Impact damage from that hook slammed into that side of face a few times. Yeah could see the servos that turn the eye malfunctioning, jamming or completly breaking down.
My thoughts exactly. That was the side of his face that was being crushed by that steel beam. That is like the one thing in the movie that never needed "fixing".
Same here. It was slammed with that iron press a couple of times so I assumed it was in pretty bad shape. Even in some set photos you can see the eye is off, presumably to save batteries but got me thing at some point they consider shutting it off to give the impression it was destroyed.
For me the fixed eye was never an issue. Consider the fact that Arnold took huge hits to his head, maybe it's why the eye is protruding slightly and also not moving. It's no longer fitting in the socket, or the circuit is damaged, or both. Also you never need rose tinted glasses when watching either T1 or T2, they are some of the best movies of all time.
Even in the skull of the terminator the eye is pushed back so if anything the metal should be dented the eyes wouldn’t get too stuck. Maybe stiff but not stuck
I always thought the red-eye didn't move, because the mechanism which caused it to move was damaged. He did take an I-beam to the head quite a few times.
@@JoshuahMyles LOL! Look at who's jumping to conclusions (you). I did watch the whole video; and, I know he mentioned the damage in the video. However, I was mentioning how I always believed how the eye didn't move because it was damaged. And, I believed that from back when I was a teenager (over 20 years ago). It bothered him in this video; because, he believed that it NEEDED to move; but, it didn't NEED to be "fixed." The eye moving would indicate the Arnold Terminator wasn't damaged THAT badly. However, the fact the eye was so badly damaged proves how much the Arnold Terminator took; and, how much of a sacrifice he made in order to protect John. "Fixing" the broken eye just makes it look like less of a sacrifice. Imagine someone fighting for someone else's life; and, that person's arm was so badly damaged during the fight that it didn't function anymore. Then, someone comes along and says, "Well, the arm is still attached...soooooo, it SHOULD still function." Then, he makes some video effect to make it look like a wacky-inflatable-flailing-arm man was controlling the arm. Sure, it would be funny as shite...but, it would go against the sacrifice which the damaged-arm guy made in the movie.
the second half devolves into a saturday morning cartoon. the first film is just highly superior. also the liquid terminator is a dumb concept because its not wrapped in flesh and shouldnt be able to go back in time
Sarah shaking hands with something that ACTUALLY looks like the soulless terrifying monster that persued her at the end of T1 makes a WORLD of difference. It feels like an actual T800 terminator cyborg growing a personality, a consience, a soul. Fantastic work
I read about the symbolism in T2 - at first the terminator is wearing glasses and for the viewer and the characters he seems to be a threat. He is completely dehumanized (because his eyes don't show). He is a soulless machine. And then there is a transitional moment when he takes off his glasses and holds out his hand to S.Connor, which is the final transition for the heroes of the movie, that this terminator is a friend, not an enemy (and he didn’t kill anyone in the whole movie). And, on the other hand. When they visited their friend somewhere on the ranch and took weapons. Sarah put on glasses and became like a terminator herself. Her goal was to eliminate a person (Dyson)
I think it's really cool to make visual adjustments to classics like T2 or Star Wars. It's only a sin when the original versions aren't available alongside them.
@@LukeLovesRose Some of the adjustments are fine, mostly to match the look of the newer films, like Cloud City having windows to feel more open, stormtroopers riding dewbacks, and the extended celebration scene after the Empire's defeat. Even the TH-cam channel FXitinpost redid Obi-Wan and Vader's fight, which is just fantastic and works so much better in relation to their Mustafar duel. But one change I never liked was Greedo firing his blaster at Han. Han shot Greedo because Greedo threatened the Millennium Falcon, not because Han needed to be shot at first.
The way I've always reconciled this "issue" since I was a kid, was that the eye got severely damaged and dislodged out of its mechanism when the T-1000 rammed Arnold's face with the steel beam, as you specified in the video. That seemed enough for me, lol.
That makes sense because when he first gets rammed, and the eye is exposed, it's turned off like it's been disconnected, but then turns back on. It's like getting rammed several times knocked something loose.
Real nice work! Being a Cameron shill myself, I'm not one to nitpick, and the prosthetic goof never bothered me even as a kid when I noticed it 30 years ago. The way it bulged out left no room for the missing organic eye, which would have cartoonishly bulged out from his face even further if it were still there on top of that robotic one. But it was all practical makeup and we sort of applaud that these days, so I just dismissed it as less of a goof and more of a practical limitation.
The thing is, it only really sticks out in stills. That's how good of a job they did on T2's practical effects and editing. Whenever I watch T2, I'm never broken out of the immersion by it's effects, acting and editing. T1 has some real dodgy stuff that does take me out of the movie.
@@alekesam You mean like the Arnold Puppet? Well the budget was more limited. They could have done better but the money wasn't there. Or what else do you mean?
@@EbonyPope Sheesh. I really said that? T1 does have some dodgy prac fx but for it's budget, Jim did an outstanding job. I wonder if I was going to make another point and flubbed the delivery? As 80s prac fx goes, T1 deserves to be grouped with Robocop and Predator as outstanding movies that immerses you in their world.
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T1 is my favorite between the two, personally. After going a long time without seeing T2 (probably 17 years) It felt as close to like you are seeing it for the first time, as you could get. It allowed me to get impressed with it all over again. It's really a master class on how to make the perfect "Serious" action/adventure movie. The sound track, pacing, sound fx, camera angles, story. It's actually mind blowing how well crafted Terminator 2 really is. Awesome video! though I'm 2 years late, lol.
@@anhnhvn that's how we know time travel will never be possible. If it was, billionaire James Cameron could've gone back in time to give James Cameron, director of Piranha 2, an extra couple of million dollars to really nail it. Alas, we'll just have to be content with Terminator being one of the greatest sci-fi movies ever made but having one scene that looks bad.
I'll never forget the first time I seen T2 as a kid... The beginning when the terminator steps on the skull and crushes it, I jumped so hard. That'll always be my favorite future war scene in the series. Also, I BALLED my eyes out at the end when he terminated his self. This will always be one of my favorite movies of all time.
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T2: the best action movie. It used real locations, props and practical effects with a slight touch of computer effects here and there. Real camera movements. Real explosions. It didn't and couldn't go way over the top like so many of today's movies. Which is why it feels grounded in reality. Same with the first Jurassic Park. There they used obviously more CGI, but still many times mixed with models and real locations and a story that made sense. And that's why it still feels real and best of all the Jurassic crap we got since.
And don't forget a real helicopter going under a bridge. Maybe one of the best helicopter stuntmen of his days who made this possible. I can't think of anything comparable.
As much as I like the original "stagnant eye", I think your take adds a lot more depth to that scene. The movement from the terminator's eye along with the exposed endoskeleton contrasted alongside Arnie's real eye and skin makes it even more eerie. You can really grasp that despite the "human" appearance it is still a machine solely designed to kill humans. Personally, I prefer your take and really would like something like this to be included in the film.
Bruh, his cranium was smashed up earlier. The eye was friggin broken. Like, screwed up. Even protruding a little from the damage the side of his melon received. How could you possibly even get hung up on that scene? It was perfect!
The eye fix definitely makes him feel like a believable T-800, a cybernetic organism in the... flesh, sort to speak. I've also always wanted a bare endoskeleton T-800 speak with the Arnie voice without any of the Arnie skin! How has it never happened throughout the whole franchise??
I always thought the T-1000 riding up the stairs on the bike was a nice touch at showing how even though it's the perfect killing machine it's still just a computer that makes awkward looking mistakes thinking it's being more practical.
I just thought it was a machine so didn't care about our concepts of where bikes go, bike = faster = use bike, t1000 is all about using tools it cant make so a bike would be pretty handy to increase pace and the way it drives out the window its not like it was stuck on the top floor if it needed to get down it would just go for it and get another vehicle if it broke
I always assumed the T-800's eye servos/whatever we're damaged from the hits and never thought more of it, but you're work on it was really cool. Adding the depth through the shadows and metallic reflection was well done
I think it's a brilliant improvement. This is a scene that holds a lot of emotional weight and the change does nothing to undermine the artistry and beautiful prosthetic work of Stan Winston and his team of artists. It enhances the effect in an undeniable way that is consistent with the purpose of the scene. Chefs kiss.
You could say his right eye was locked in place because of the ramming the T1000 gave to that side of T800 head with that metal rail (or whatever it was) right before he impaled and disabled the T800 with the metal bar
I just saw Terminator Salvation recently and I guess that's the closest we've seen an endoskeleton "talk" since during the final battle, it uses Kyle's calls for help to lure John.
I'm guessing it's because once they're flesh is gone, and you can see they're Endoskeletons, they stop talking because they've already been exposed, they have no reason to keep talking.
My biggest issue is not any of the scenes listed, but the one where the T-1000 is reforming after being shattered. They used mercury to show the blobs reforming, but mercury doesn't have the viscosity that the liquid metal was shown to have previously. I thought at least those scenes should have been shot at a higher framerate so they play back slower and reduce how fast the ripples move. Also this scene is forever burned in my brain since my brother screamed, "IT'S MERCURY!" in the theater for the entire audience to hear.
The T1000 rode the bike up there, because in games you don't leave your vehicle until you absolutely have to. So if the tank fits up the stairs, the tank goes up the stairs. Also maybe the bike is quicker ;p
I thought the eye was broken, but I'm very impressed with your fix. T2 will always be one of the best films. CGI can look amazing, but I hate CGI when its over done and over used. I love some great practical effects.
@@EbonyPope That's more about how the CGI is done or properly integrated into the shots, more than the CGI itself. For example, the CGI in the original Jurassic Park is rudimentary compared to the CGI in Jurassic World. The CGI in Jurassic World is far more involved than Jurassic Park. In Jurassic Park, in HD you can definitely see where the texture quality falls and the addition of bump mapping exists to exaggerate more detail, whereas in Jurassic World, those smaller details can be actually modeled now to accurately interact with the CGI lighting. That's just the start of it.
@@ChrissonatorOFL Well it still looks horrible. Or was a good decision to do most shots practical and only use CGI when there was no other way. There are only few directors left that have this attitude. Christopher Nolan would be an example. No matter how good the CGI is flipping a freakin' Semi truck on screen in the Dark Knight eat one of the most impressive things I've seen in movies so far. There is nothing animated that even comes close.
@@ChrissonatorOFL The only CGI I find hard to notice is the one that is kept in the dark. The way it should be. As soon as you have full lighting no matter how good your CGI is it's still visible. Even in Prometheus it was obvious that the spaceships were rendered. And that was really good CG.
My favourite film. Absolutely brilliant Saturday night action film. Always reminds me of being young and my dad letting me stay up to watch films like this
I wouldn’t say T2 is overrated, but I don’t like it quite as much as the general fan. I’ve always been a bigger fan of the first film. Anyway, I’ve never had a problem with the practical effects in this movie but this was cool analysis at some of the methods they used.
Ya know in all fairness- the terminators head was smashed multiple times by a giant piece of steel block- he’s missing an arm, busted leg, shredded main power supply, and we saw his head get legit squished 30% complete with celery crunch sounds. What’s to say his servo eye controlled by tiny micro components wasn’t smashed locked in there… anyone who’s thrown a PS3 controller at a wall knows how it works. Meanwhile I do understand ur point and relate with it. Idk man I can see it go either way, all puns intended lol!!
I was always under the impression that since Arnold's head was slammed over and over by a giant concrete slab his eye was just broken and stuck in place.
Man, I LOVE these fixing videos for the Alien & Predator franchises, Terminator, etc. So many people just baselessly complain, but no one actually offers constructive criticism or actual fixes to the issues like you do!
I dunno, I think the eye was meant to be broken and the Predator analogy wasn’t the same. Watching the “fix” for me changes the tone somewhat. The Terminator cannot become tired, but he is visually “exhausted” by the way he looks. In the end, it makes killing him just a little more palatable because he’s in need of so much repair anyway.
It's really amazing how much personality it gives him. Like it actually improves the scene because you are not taken out of the moment by the deep eye.
Best video you’ve done so far man! Literally laughed out loud at the Predator punching bit and the Arnie song at the end. Quality of your vids is getting so good, keep it up!
This is really cool! But I always assumed the eye actuators were damaged, so it couldn't move anymore. Also, it's a convenient excuse to make up for the limitations of the SFX makeup & prosthetics.
This is IMO a case of overthinking that actually damages what isn't broken. That eye being functional *would be* the blooper, because it's very hard to accept that after an intense beating like that, where the skull is showing and that whole part of the head seems busted, the mechanism that moves the eye is still operational.
Dude I need to tell you 'bravo'! I also fall within the camp of never having had an issue with the original eye, and despite the passage of time (decades I hate admitting) I've always been able to keep this film set within the 1991 context of its visual effects - which back then were utterly mind-blowing and revolutionary. That is, I've never seen or felt the need to try picking it apart through the lens of 30 more years of special effects evolution. T2 was and always will be special (both the first & second films). But I still LOVE the results you achieved working on that endo-eyeball and totally understand the points you made, your reasons for having a crack at it. It turned out badass man! I think you should be pretty psyched...
I definitely used the "the eye got smashed and locked up" justification in my headcanon, funny to see there's others out there who were slightly miffled by this as well! Great vid though, your effect is pretty damn effective, I think it might even make that scene more powerful, which it doesn't really need any help with, as it's one of the very best.
If I went to Best Buy and saw a 4k Remaster of this movie and it said, "Included fixed scene from this dude on TH-cam named CORDZ" I would BUY it, not stream it. I just watched the scene from this clip isolated so I could try and get back into the headspace and it's phenomenal. Like Darthkahn below said, it seems like she shook hands with a cyborg that was just beginning to evolve. Like he said to John, "I now know why you cry. But it's something I can never do.". This is a needed fix and holds weight. Outstanding job, Cordz.
Seeing T2 in this 3D Remaster in the cinemas is ONE OF THE BEST movie moments I've ever experienced. It felt so much more real and impactful. It was beautiful and absolutely terrifying. By the end of the film I could've fallen on my knees crying about the potential reality of a real nuclear winter. T2 has always been one of my top 3 fav films but after seeing it this way I can say I was completely transformed. A film has never made me so terrified. The action and VFX was just epic as well of course.
Something I've always wanted to see: The lightning storm at the climax of Back to the Future to have gradually increasing rainfall. Maybe it starts to drizzle a bit when Marty is sitting in the car at the "start" line, and by the time he's speeding towards the cable with the pole attached, it's outright pouring, and we see the back tires actually going through puddles. Not sure if that would be possible to seamlessly incorporate though, even with modern methods.
but that would have an effect on everything that happens during that scene, the street gets slippery, Rick would have had it much harder to help Marty, and so on. I think this would not work added afterwards, only if it was planned from the start. nice idea nontheless dude :D
i work in visual fx and dude that eye fix of yours with basic 2d elements is f**king brilliant! Bravo. theres a moment where the eye seems a bit too low as he looks screen left but honestly - it looks REALLY cool and a nod to the original film with the eye in blackened darkness! subscribed - truly excellent content thankyou! ant
I also always saw it as a technical impossibility, but there was always a desire to fix this particular moment with the eye, where it protrudes too much and you can see that it's an overlay. In the first part, of course, the replacement by a puppet is very striking, as well as in the scene with the special forces in the second part, and it is also very striking how the soulless terminator very actively squinting and blinking at hits in him, which spoils the effect of immersion and belief in his non-living nature. Which again can be explained by technical limitations, but in the remaster could do something about it, but apparently the budget of the remaster does not imply such a thing, all hope for ChatGPT and Sora. But you've got it wrong too, but as an illustration of the idea it'll do.
Great Video Cordz that part in T2 also bugged me a bit but you did an awesome job, also the bit at @10:30 Killed me because its true, "I'm the bad guy" LMFAOO
Wow, that eye always stuck out to me too. Great job enhancing it like you did, with all due respect to Stan "the man" Winston. It's not a dig at T2 when these things are noticed. Instead it shows just how many times we've watched an awesome movie. I can't wait for my son to get a bitolderso I can introduce it to him. Thanks for the video.
what ruined that scene for me is another shot not far from that part where you can see the light of the fake lava shining on the black "depth illusion" part between the mouth hydraulic cheek area. they just painted it pitch black but in one shot where its directed to the camera from Arnolds cheek the black darkness doesn't absorb the light. I'm sorry if I ruined it for anyone reading. PS: I think the shot is at 7:08
I love how fans of termiantor always find good explanations to the special effects issues 😄 Okay for the eye not moving, but the shape is not correct, it is supposed to be a hole, not a big metal button. You have to admit that movies are not flawless. This video adds a lot, thank you for doing this.
Just get a hold of Harmy's de-specialized of star wars on blu ray, or if you prefer, the 4K77, 80 and 83. I prefer Harmy's since the 4K series looks kinda worn out visually, kinda rough
I was always under the assumption that the Practical effect was as a results of The Terminator having his face smashed in therefore it would have malfunctioned and been physically damaged
What's more distracting to me (I've never seen the eye as a problem) is that Arnold looks even younger on this re-issue's cover of _T2_ than he did in the original, _The Terminator._
I have been wanting this done since the movie came out… That static eye is such a eye sore (hehe) to an otherwise masterpiece. I was and still am a crazy Terminator fanboy. You nailed it on head… CGI and visual computer graphics should be there to mitigate and enhance practical effects, not replace them. Obviously they also need to be used when practical effects are not possible for the desired result such as the examples you gave. However, I am totally down with going back and mitigating and enhancing older movies with CGI touch ups. I think if done correctly they will help older movies age better.
Awesome job! You can now feel that there's more emotion in the actual T800, as opposed from it all coming from the flesh bodied Arnie side of the character, if that makes sense. Just from his eye now tracked, looking at Sarah and then down to John, you can see it's the machine that actually cares. That's what I get from this anyway lol 😂 Subbed! 👍
the T-800 is able to speak because he has human vocal cords or because he has an artificial speaker? because everytime he burns or explodes and only the steel skeleton is left he is unable to even make a single sound.
I think CGI works best when it briefly complements real practical effects. When the entire screen is green, I don't want it. This is why some movies from the 80s and 90s aged flawlessly and even managed to outshine movies from today.
Cordery,i love your obsession with T2 ! I was worse,i rented it on vhs when i was 11,and said to my parents i've lost the tape,just to watch it everyday afterwards when parents were at work... T2 / Aliens and Predator 1 are the holy trio of cult action movies that will never be surpassed,remade,rebooted or else! Peace
To bad I didn't have a vhs player those days, but I agree with your holy trio proposal, the studios should do a remastered Bluray pack with these movies and include their awesome second parts too! There's still so much milk from the holy trio to be milked for years to come!
Leon Furlan, Same As Man those 3 are Quality Films! I'd add these to a similar list The Thing/Escape from New York n Robocop! They're just Soooo Fuckin Cool Man! Cheers
@@personanongratis i am just amazed that nobody surpassed the feeling of those films even 35 yrs later!? With all the cgi,big budgets and big stars,still nothing comes close! I think it just shows that not all is in the budget or movie technology and big picture resolution...
@@eddysandland58 true! They tried to remake all of them,and every try was worse than the last! The Thing (2011) remake = terrible, every Terminator after 3 = disgusting , The Predator (2018) = worst movie i've ever seen ,.Prometheus/Covenant = omg , Robocop (2015?) = ufff ,and so on! Looks like it is impossible to remake them,they should'nt even try!
You don't fix the crack on the liberty bell, you don't straighten the leaning tower of Piza, you don't put arms on the venus de milo. Its best to just leave old works of art alone.
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 yes but it is the way we all know them now, and you still wouldn't actually fix any of them. And as for movies, they DID start that way
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 Well yes restoring a movie is like scanning the original negatives in 4 or 8k and releasing them on disk in their highest quality. What is wrong is altering the movie
those practical effects are still unmatched!!! well done with your effects btw! ALSO... I know Terminators from the 700 series can mimic voices but i can't unhear Arnie as a terminator singing "Bad Guy" now! ...thanks
I have some thoughts. When you referenced the first Terminators puppet, I thought "Sure it seems tacky by today's standards but the puppet had this uncanny valley feel that adds to the fact that this is a machine made to look like a human." Honestly, the puppet freaked me out when I first saw it in the film. I had no idea it was a puppet, I wasn't sure what I was seeing but... it felt unnatural. I like this video though, and I think what you did looks great, and I would love to see a bigger studio tackle something like this.
My biggest problem was the night scene when the T-1000 latches onto the back of the cop car speeding away with his metal hooks, the shot where the car slides around the corner with the T-1000 dragging behind it - that just looks like a terrible mannequin doll rolling around...
For me the worst is probably the bike scene when they are chased by the truck and it's obviously two stunt guys with the same clothes that don't look like Schwarzenegger and Furlong at all.
@@folksurvival Yeah, I think that's most ppl's "mistake". I always found it funny as a kid and paused the VHS cause I think the guy also blew his cheeks up didn't he?😅
@@maviaelmaiadejesus3794Your comment makes zero sense. By your rationale, instead of using CGI for the T-1000 they should have just covered Robert Patrick in tin foil "because it was 1991".
Compared to the jaw which was a more integral part of tbe design, the eye never really bothered me. It wasn't that obvious. Still your 'fix' looked good
Although the scene worked fine, maybe for those of us who grew up with the original, I like that minor fix. Just adds that extra level of believability to the scene. Great job! 😊
I think this could be a fun multi-editor project. Though, I think all it really needed was your 2D tracking effect. Did you keyframe it all or was Mocha able to track the eye movements?
I can tell from the nitpicking that you had for T2 that you've watched it 20 times from start to finish over the years. Also, it feels like they have to skin off half of Arnold's face every Terminator movie to reveal the robot eye. Like it's in the contract or something. Somewhat off-topic but the scene where T💯0 jumps onto the back of the police car STILL to this day makes me laugh. Something about dummies and their lifeless bodies just getting dragged or flung around has always tickled my funny bone.
Actually its from doing these videos. When you live with the HD footage of these movies for so long you just can't un see stuff now. Like the facehuggers scene from Aliens. All I see are strings now.
Stuff like this I didn't mind when I was a kid, and still I don't mind these days, it doesn't take me out of the movie, but it does take out a chuckle from me here and there!
*5:41** Its s cool to see they digitally made that red-dotted eye actually move from facing forward to beaming at the truck driver. Press . and , to see each frame!*
I figured with the eye, it was due to the smashing the skull took earlier in the film when the T-1000 literally smashed it between that makeshift ram and the wall, it caused the eye to seize up due to it getting literally compacted into the skull. It is admittedly a bit of cope, but it helped keep myself in the film when I was young. That said, I love what you did, it's simple... it's effective, and as uncanny and disturbing as it is, it's how you'd envision it being in real life, looking at a machine beneath the man. I also hate how the T-800 endoskeleton has become less and less terrifying as I've gotten older.... Lighting and visual effects people... come on!
The eye effect bothered me from day one in 1991 on until now. Thanks for bringing this topic up.👍 btw: Another thing is that the foster dad switches the hand he is holding the milk package with between cuts for no logic reason. And there is the question, how did the T1000 manage to kill the foster mom while her husband is around with him not noticing anything? What did the T1000 do with the body afterwards? And why not killing them both at once? I mean, except for making the awesome milk package scene possible 😉 but logically it doesn't make sense.
One might assume they probably shot such scenes but it would account for unnecessary dragged out shots just to show the casualties factor plus making the film more longer. Thus the editing before release. The damaged eye issue is well, a visual context to the circumstance inflicted by the T1000....taking brutal hits to a vital component will cause malfunctions thus the eye not moving. Besides it was the best use of facial practical effects. This video just nit pick to a detail which only bothers for todays CGI efficiency factor. Besides this movie still stands for its story, the other iterations might have improved CG but thats about it.
I get what you’re sayin. But, you can even go far back as to why didn’t the terminators just duke it out at John’s house and the victor wait for John to come home?
@@me4067 Maybe i was carried away a bit. 😁 You are right. Why the T1000 doesn't wait for John to come home? It could be he is programmed to be proactive and not just to wait for it's target to come home? I don't know. BUT the Genesys movie in my opinion showed the biggest "mistake" or better "problem" better than the description we get in T1. In the moment the "evil" Terminator went throuh the time shifting device (or what it's called, i forgot) it's completely pointless to send someone or something through as well because the Terminator did already long ago either fullfill it's mission or didn't. The moment in time the Terminator has been send to is about 50 years ago from 2029!? But anyways, T2 is in my opinion still the best action movie ever made. At least it's among the best three.
I personally never had an issue with the eye, i always assumed it was broken or just partially functional and that's why it didn't move.
Impact damage from that hook slammed into that side of face a few times. Yeah could see the servos that turn the eye malfunctioning, jamming or completly breaking down.
My thoughts exactly. That was the side of his face that was being crushed by that steel beam. That is like the one thing in the movie that never needed "fixing".
Same here. It was slammed with that iron press a couple of times so I assumed it was in pretty bad shape. Even in some set photos you can see the eye is off, presumably to save batteries but got me thing at some point they consider shutting it off to give the impression it was destroyed.
I always assumed that the actual eye didn't need to move, even though it did in the first one.
@@yuothineyesasian When it moved in the first one it was a puppet.
For me the fixed eye was never an issue. Consider the fact that Arnold took huge hits to his head, maybe it's why the eye is protruding slightly and also not moving. It's no longer fitting in the socket, or the circuit is damaged, or both. Also you never need rose tinted glasses when watching either T1 or T2, they are some of the best movies of all time.
Ah you see but Predators jaw.... and... yeah I don't know what he was on about...
Agreed, I chalked it up to being pounded in the head with a steel beam repeatedly. Perfect in-universe explanation for it.
More than likely battle damage, yes. It never took me out of the movie. I doubt many people would argue this point.
Even in the skull of the terminator the eye is pushed back so if anything the metal should be dented the eyes wouldn’t get too stuck. Maybe stiff but not stuck
Affirmative. 😎👍🏼
I always thought the red-eye didn't move, because the mechanism which caused it to move was damaged. He did take an I-beam to the head quite a few times.
😎👍🏼 Affirmative.
He literally mentioned that in his video. Sounds like somebody just jumps to conclusions without letting a video finish.
@@JoshuahMyles LOL! Look at who's jumping to conclusions (you). I did watch the whole video; and, I know he mentioned the damage in the video. However, I was mentioning how I always believed how the eye didn't move because it was damaged. And, I believed that from back when I was a teenager (over 20 years ago). It bothered him in this video; because, he believed that it NEEDED to move; but, it didn't NEED to be "fixed." The eye moving would indicate the Arnold Terminator wasn't damaged THAT badly. However, the fact the eye was so badly damaged proves how much the Arnold Terminator took; and, how much of a sacrifice he made in order to protect John. "Fixing" the broken eye just makes it look like less of a sacrifice.
Imagine someone fighting for someone else's life; and, that person's arm was so badly damaged during the fight that it didn't function anymore. Then, someone comes along and says, "Well, the arm is still attached...soooooo, it SHOULD still function." Then, he makes some video effect to make it look like a wacky-inflatable-flailing-arm man was controlling the arm. Sure, it would be funny as shite...but, it would go against the sacrifice which the damaged-arm guy made in the movie.
He just needs a vacation in some liquid metal
@@JoshuahMyles but then he pissed on it saying "well people said the same thing in my predators face video" even though here it's actually justifiable
Cameron's Golden Age. A standard so high not even Cameron himself could recapture it.
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Yup back when he would only use CGI for things he couldn't do practically.
DUDE....That Terminator Skeleton- Arnold Rap in the end was the highlight of the whole video. Friggin hilarious!
"Dauh! " I am lol'ing my ass off here!
"make your mama sad type" lol
Saying this movie is over-rated is the best way a person admits to being an idiot without saying they're an idiot.
exactly
Spot on true!@@sketchbabu
the second half devolves into a saturday morning cartoon. the first film is just highly superior. also the liquid terminator is a dumb concept because its not wrapped in flesh and shouldnt be able to go back in time
@@JunjiItoDougWalker nah
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Sarah shaking hands with something that ACTUALLY looks like the soulless terrifying monster that persued her at the end of T1 makes a WORLD of difference.
It feels like an actual T800 terminator cyborg growing a personality, a consience, a soul.
Fantastic work
I read about the symbolism in T2 - at first the terminator is wearing glasses and for the viewer and the characters he seems to be a threat. He is completely dehumanized (because his eyes don't show). He is a soulless machine. And then there is a transitional moment when he takes off his glasses and holds out his hand to S.Connor, which is the final transition for the heroes of the movie, that this terminator is a friend, not an enemy (and he didn’t kill anyone in the whole movie).
And, on the other hand. When they visited their friend somewhere on the ranch and took weapons. Sarah put on glasses and became like a terminator herself. Her goal was to eliminate a person (Dyson)
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He is becoming Carl.
I think it's really cool to make visual adjustments to classics like T2 or Star Wars. It's only a sin when the original versions aren't available alongside them.
Putting CGI in the original STAR WARS trilogy was sacrilege
@@stuartsutton9350 says you
@@Bakamatsu-GojiFanArchive And many other fans. What they did with Han Solo and Greedo was despicable
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Some of the adjustments are fine, mostly to match the look of the newer films, like Cloud City having windows to feel more open, stormtroopers riding dewbacks, and the extended celebration scene after the Empire's defeat. Even the TH-cam channel FXitinpost redid Obi-Wan and Vader's fight, which is just fantastic and works so much better in relation to their Mustafar duel. But one change I never liked was Greedo firing his blaster at Han. Han shot Greedo because Greedo threatened the Millennium Falcon, not because Han needed to be shot at first.
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Exactly. All versions of the movie should be available, like Blade Runner.
Exoskeleton with Arnie voice had me in stitches!!😂
Stitches? What do you mean?
@@ezioauditoredafirenze8352 figure of speech that means a laughing fit, laughing out loud, bursts of laughter.
Timestamp?
10:29 Nevermind, it literally started playing as soon as I hit post.
Why did they never do that in the movies😂
@@racing-ricbecause Billie Eyelash wasn't even a thought in her dads nutsack yet. I suppose they could've went with Gloria Estefan or Tina Turner 😂
Arnolds Bad Guy cover at the end got me. I'm still laughing.
The way I've always reconciled this "issue" since I was a kid, was that the eye got severely damaged and dislodged out of its mechanism when the T-1000 rammed Arnold's face with the steel beam, as you specified in the video. That seemed enough for me, lol.
🔥👍🏼🔥 I can dig this idea.
That makes sense because when he first gets rammed, and the eye is exposed, it's turned off like it's been disconnected, but then turns back on. It's like getting rammed several times knocked something loose.
@@jonnyb.animationstutorials7119 Yeah exactly. Not really sure why the author is so bothered lol. It makes total sense for it to not be moving.
@@captainnutsack8151I think it's cool that they edited it to make it move, but it wasn't necessary at all.
When the terminator descended into the lava, his eye worked
Real nice work! Being a Cameron shill myself, I'm not one to nitpick, and the prosthetic goof never bothered me even as a kid when I noticed it 30 years ago. The way it bulged out left no room for the missing organic eye, which would have cartoonishly bulged out from his face even further if it were still there on top of that robotic one. But it was all practical makeup and we sort of applaud that these days, so I just dismissed it as less of a goof and more of a practical limitation.
The thing is, it only really sticks out in stills. That's how good of a job they did on T2's practical effects and editing. Whenever I watch T2, I'm never broken out of the immersion by it's effects, acting and editing. T1 has some real dodgy stuff that does take me out of the movie.
@@alekesam You mean like the Arnold Puppet? Well the budget was more limited. They could have done better but the money wasn't there. Or what else do you mean?
@@EbonyPope Sheesh. I really said that? T1 does have some dodgy prac fx but for it's budget, Jim did an outstanding job. I wonder if I was going to make another point and flubbed the delivery? As 80s prac fx goes, T1 deserves to be grouped with Robocop and Predator as outstanding movies that immerses you in their world.
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T1 is my favorite between the two, personally. After going a long time without seeing T2 (probably 17 years) It felt as close to like you are seeing it for the first time, as you could get. It allowed me to get impressed with it all over again. It's really a master class on how to make the perfect "Serious" action/adventure movie. The sound track, pacing, sound fx, camera angles, story. It's actually mind blowing how well crafted Terminator 2 really is. Awesome video! though I'm 2 years late, lol.
7 minutes of complaining before getting to the good part.
I mean some of it was warranted, but not 7 min worth. At least 2 min
The eye was literally never an issue for me. The prosthetic head in the eye removal scene in the first movie? YES.
Yeah the animatronics was much cruder back then. The first movie only had a budget of 6.5 mil, a fraction of the second one's.
@@anhnhvn that's how we know time travel will never be possible. If it was, billionaire James Cameron could've gone back in time to give James Cameron, director of Piranha 2, an extra couple of million dollars to really nail it. Alas, we'll just have to be content with Terminator being one of the greatest sci-fi movies ever made but having one scene that looks bad.
you dont have to use literally... no one would mistake that with a figurative statement
@@tonypepperoni229 Literally I don't care.
Yeah, thee prosthetic head was literal cancer
I'll never forget the first time I seen T2 as a kid... The beginning when the terminator steps on the skull and crushes it, I jumped so hard. That'll always be my favorite future war scene in the series. Also, I BALLED my eyes out at the end when he terminated his self. This will always be one of my favorite movies of all time.
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I'm kidding of course even though it is true but don't you just hate those people?? 😂😂😂😂 I was so sad at the end too! The thumbs up was just awesome! 👍
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T2: the best action movie. It used real locations, props and practical effects with a slight touch of computer effects here and there. Real camera movements. Real explosions. It didn't and couldn't go way over the top like so many of today's movies. Which is why it feels grounded in reality. Same with the first Jurassic Park. There they used obviously more CGI, but still many times mixed with models and real locations and a story that made sense. And that's why it still feels real and best of all the Jurassic crap we got since.
Very simple plot, yet one of the greatest movies of all time, great characters, scenery/ effects/ sequences
And don't forget a real helicopter going under a bridge. Maybe one of the best helicopter stuntmen of his days who made this possible. I can't think of anything comparable.
As much as I like the original "stagnant eye", I think your take adds a lot more depth to that scene. The movement from the terminator's eye along with the exposed endoskeleton contrasted alongside Arnie's real eye and skin makes it even more eerie. You can really grasp that despite the "human" appearance it is still a machine solely designed to kill humans.
Personally, I prefer your take and really would like something like this to be included in the film.
Couldn't have said it better. Such a small change adds SO much.
Bruh, his cranium was smashed up earlier. The eye was friggin broken. Like, screwed up. Even protruding a little from the damage the side of his melon received. How could you possibly even get hung up on that scene? It was perfect!
People with too much money and time on their hands 😂
The eye fix definitely makes him feel like a believable T-800, a cybernetic organism in the... flesh, sort to speak. I've also always wanted a bare endoskeleton T-800 speak with the Arnie voice without any of the Arnie skin! How has it never happened throughout the whole franchise??
The realistic answer is no tongue to speak with
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The T-800 wouldn't require any of its flesh componets such as the tongue to speak. Its voice is artifically produced.
Well, we don't get arnie's voice..but in Terminator Salvation, a T-800 with no skin imitates Kyle's voice to lure Connor.
IVE ALWAYS WANTED THIS!!! A NICE ENDOSKELETON WITH ARNIES VOICE TRYING TO BLEND IN WITH REGULAR CLOTHES AND SUNGLASSES BUT FAILING HILARIOUSLY
Needs a voice box, vocal chords to speak with.
I always thought the T-1000 riding up the stairs on the bike was a nice touch at showing how even though it's the perfect killing machine it's still just a computer that makes awkward looking mistakes thinking it's being more practical.
I just thought it was a machine so didn't care about our concepts of where bikes go, bike = faster = use bike, t1000 is all about using tools it cant make so a bike would be pretty handy to increase pace and the way it drives out the window its not like it was stuck on the top floor if it needed to get down it would just go for it and get another vehicle if it broke
Sometimes machines are just doing imprevisible stuff. They're weird by nature because they're not a product of nature.
I always assumed the T-800's eye servos/whatever we're damaged from the hits and never thought more of it, but you're work on it was really cool. Adding the depth through the shadows and metallic reflection was well done
That's what I always thought even as a kid in the theater when I saw the movie, I was 11 years old.
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P.s. don't get mad. Just trying to help.
I think it's a brilliant improvement. This is a scene that holds a lot of emotional weight and the change does nothing to undermine the artistry and beautiful prosthetic work of Stan Winston and his team of artists. It enhances the effect in an undeniable way that is consistent with the purpose of the scene. Chefs kiss.
You could say his right eye was locked in place because of the ramming the T1000 gave to that side of T800 head with that metal rail (or whatever it was) right before he impaled and disabled the T800 with the metal bar
This was hilarious!! The predator getting punched gave me a chuckle but the t100 at the end had me in stitches 😆🤣
Fixing his face by punching it was indeed hilarious ha ha ha
T800 lol
I agree. I'd have loved to have seen one of the skeletons chat with someone in a movie. Missed opportunity.
@@tetrasphere8165 No, it's "T a hundred"
"I''m the Bad Guy - DUH!" Never laughed so hard in Weeks!
I just saw Terminator Salvation recently and I guess that's the closest we've seen an endoskeleton "talk" since during the final battle, it uses Kyle's calls for help to lure John.
I'm guessing it's because once they're flesh is gone, and you can see they're Endoskeletons, they stop talking because they've already been exposed, they have no reason to keep talking.
My biggest issue is not any of the scenes listed, but the one where the T-1000 is reforming after being shattered. They used mercury to show the blobs reforming, but mercury doesn't have the viscosity that the liquid metal was shown to have previously. I thought at least those scenes should have been shot at a higher framerate so they play back slower and reduce how fast the ripples move.
Also this scene is forever burned in my brain since my brother screamed, "IT'S MERCURY!" in the theater for the entire audience to hear.
Hey, we made funny Terminator parody using Ai. Wanna see it and tell us if you liked it.🙃
The T1000 rode the bike up there, because in games you don't leave your vehicle until you absolutely have to. So if the tank fits up the stairs, the tank goes up the stairs.
Also maybe the bike is quicker ;p
I thought the eye was broken,
but I'm very impressed with your fix.
T2 will always be one of the best films. CGI can look amazing, but I hate CGI when its over done and over used. I love some great practical effects.
The chopper going under the bridge is an actual helicopter. And it shows. Real effects just have this texture to them that you don't get with CG.
@@EbonyPope That's more about how the CGI is done or properly integrated into the shots, more than the CGI itself. For example, the CGI in the original Jurassic Park is rudimentary compared to the CGI in Jurassic World. The CGI in Jurassic World is far more involved than Jurassic Park. In Jurassic Park, in HD you can definitely see where the texture quality falls and the addition of bump mapping exists to exaggerate more detail, whereas in Jurassic World, those smaller details can be actually modeled now to accurately interact with the CGI lighting. That's just the start of it.
@@ChrissonatorOFL Well it still looks horrible. Or was a good decision to do most shots practical and only use CGI when there was no other way. There are only few directors left that have this attitude. Christopher Nolan would be an example. No matter how good the CGI is flipping a freakin' Semi truck on screen in the Dark Knight eat one of the most impressive things I've seen in movies so far. There is nothing animated that even comes close.
@@EbonyPope Meh, the thing is, people only notice bad CGI, or CGI you know is CGI because it would be impractical to do practically.
@@ChrissonatorOFL The only CGI I find hard to notice is the one that is kept in the dark. The way it should be. As soon as you have full lighting no matter how good your CGI is it's still visible. Even in Prometheus it was obvious that the spaceships were rendered. And that was really good CG.
My favourite film. Absolutely brilliant Saturday night action film. Always reminds me of being young and my dad letting me stay up to watch films like this
6:32 “and it’s like …NAUUURR”
Love this video man!
I wouldn’t say T2 is overrated, but I don’t like it quite as much as the general fan. I’ve always been a bigger fan of the first film. Anyway, I’ve never had a problem with the practical effects in this movie but this was cool analysis at some of the methods they used.
Ya know in all fairness- the terminators head was smashed multiple times by a giant piece of steel block- he’s missing an arm, busted leg, shredded main power supply, and we saw his head get legit squished 30% complete with celery crunch sounds. What’s to say his servo eye controlled by tiny micro components wasn’t smashed locked in there… anyone who’s thrown a PS3 controller at a wall knows how it works. Meanwhile I do understand ur point and relate with it. Idk man I can see it go either way, all puns intended lol!!
I was always under the impression that since Arnold's head was slammed over and over by a giant concrete slab his eye was just broken and stuck in place.
Wow that last part had me in stitches. Arnold rapping is gold
Man, I LOVE these fixing videos for the Alien & Predator franchises, Terminator, etc. So many people just baselessly complain, but no one actually offers constructive criticism or actual fixes to the issues like you do!
I dunno, I think the eye was meant to be broken and the Predator analogy wasn’t the same. Watching the “fix” for me changes the tone somewhat. The Terminator cannot become tired, but he is visually “exhausted” by the way he looks. In the end, it makes killing him just a little more palatable because he’s in need of so much repair anyway.
I always wanted to see a Terminator endoskeleton speak as well. Not even in the newer films do you see this.
Back in the 90s I used to think that the T1000 broke Arnie's eye and that's why the eye exposed doesn't work at all 🥳
It's really amazing how much personality it gives him. Like it actually improves the scene because you are not taken out of the moment by the deep eye.
Best video you’ve done so far man! Literally laughed out loud at the Predator punching bit and the Arnie song at the end. Quality of your vids is getting so good, keep it up!
This is really cool! But I always assumed the eye actuators were damaged, so it couldn't move anymore. Also, it's a convenient excuse to make up for the limitations of the SFX makeup & prosthetics.
This is IMO a case of overthinking that actually damages what isn't broken. That eye being functional *would be* the blooper, because it's very hard to accept that after an intense beating like that, where the skull is showing and that whole part of the head seems busted, the mechanism that moves the eye is still operational.
Eye see what you did there.
You fixing the Predator's face by punching him was hilarious.
Dude I need to tell you 'bravo'! I also fall within the camp of never having had an issue with the original eye, and despite the passage of time (decades I hate admitting) I've always been able to keep this film set within the 1991 context of its visual effects - which back then were utterly mind-blowing and revolutionary. That is, I've never seen or felt the need to try picking it apart through the lens of 30 more years of special effects evolution. T2 was and always will be special (both the first & second films). But I still LOVE the results you achieved working on that endo-eyeball and totally understand the points you made, your reasons for having a crack at it. It turned out badass man! I think you should be pretty psyched...
I definitely used the "the eye got smashed and locked up" justification in my headcanon, funny to see there's others out there who were slightly miffled by this as well! Great vid though, your effect is pretty damn effective, I think it might even make that scene more powerful, which it doesn't really need any help with, as it's one of the very best.
I get you...but If you put some mind to it and think why the eye isn't moving and why it looks like it's sticking out is because it's damaged
If I went to Best Buy and saw a 4k Remaster of this movie and it said, "Included fixed scene from this dude on TH-cam named CORDZ" I would BUY it, not stream it. I just watched the scene from this clip isolated so I could try and get back into the headspace and it's phenomenal. Like Darthkahn below said, it seems like she shook hands with a cyborg that was just beginning to evolve. Like he said to John, "I now know why you cry. But it's something I can never do.". This is a needed fix and holds weight. Outstanding job, Cordz.
Seeing T2 in this 3D Remaster in the cinemas is ONE OF THE BEST movie moments I've ever experienced. It felt so much more real and impactful. It was beautiful and absolutely terrifying. By the end of the film I could've fallen on my knees crying about the potential reality of a real nuclear winter.
T2 has always been one of my top 3 fav films but after seeing it this way I can say I was completely transformed. A film has never made me so terrified. The action and VFX was just epic as well of course.
Something I've always wanted to see: The lightning storm at the climax of Back to the Future to have gradually increasing rainfall. Maybe it starts to drizzle a bit when Marty is sitting in the car at the "start" line, and by the time he's speeding towards the cable with the pole attached, it's outright pouring, and we see the back tires actually going through puddles.
Not sure if that would be possible to seamlessly incorporate though, even with modern methods.
but that would have an effect on everything that happens during that scene, the street gets slippery, Rick would have had it much harder to help Marty, and so on.
I think this would not work added afterwards, only if it was planned from the start.
nice idea nontheless dude :D
Jesus I've seen that movie so many times and never thought of that...
i work in visual fx and dude that eye fix of yours with basic 2d elements is f**king brilliant! Bravo. theres a moment where the eye seems a bit too low as he looks screen left but honestly - it looks REALLY cool and a nod to the original film with the eye in blackened darkness!
subscribed - truly excellent content thankyou!
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I also always saw it as a technical impossibility, but there was always a desire to fix this particular moment with the eye, where it protrudes too much and you can see that it's an overlay. In the first part, of course, the replacement by a puppet is very striking, as well as in the scene with the special forces in the second part, and it is also very striking how the soulless terminator very actively squinting and blinking at hits in him, which spoils the effect of immersion and belief in his non-living nature. Which again can be explained by technical limitations, but in the remaster could do something about it, but apparently the budget of the remaster does not imply such a thing, all hope for ChatGPT and Sora. But you've got it wrong too, but as an illustration of the idea it'll do.
Not moving eye is easily explained actually - it's damaged. Problem solved forever. Also, the practical effects look awesome
Great Video Cordz that part in T2 also bugged me a bit but you did an awesome job, also the bit at @10:30 Killed me because its true, "I'm the bad guy" LMFAOO
10:18 Didn't know I wanted such a thing to exist, but here we are.
Wow, that eye always stuck out to me too. Great job enhancing it like you did, with all due respect to Stan "the man" Winston. It's not a dig at T2 when these things are noticed. Instead it shows just how many times we've watched an awesome movie. I can't wait for my son to get a bitolderso I can introduce it to him. Thanks for the video.
I don't see why the eye not moving is an issue. It got continuously bashed by a Steel Beam in the face. Kinda makes sense that the eye is screwed up.
what ruined that scene for me is another shot not far from that part where you can see the light of the fake lava shining on the black "depth illusion" part between the mouth hydraulic cheek area. they just painted it pitch black but in one shot where its directed to the camera from Arnolds cheek the black darkness doesn't absorb the light. I'm sorry if I ruined it for anyone reading.
PS: I think the shot is at 7:08
10:25 you killed me, man XD
I love how fans of termiantor always find good explanations to the special effects issues 😄
Okay for the eye not moving, but the shape is not correct, it is supposed to be a hole, not a big metal button.
You have to admit that movies are not flawless.
This video adds a lot, thank you for doing this.
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Just get a hold of Harmy's de-specialized of star wars on blu ray, or if you prefer, the 4K77, 80 and 83. I prefer Harmy's since the 4K series looks kinda worn out visually, kinda rough
Looks fantastic! Definitely adds something great to the shot
I was always under the assumption that the Practical effect was as a results of The Terminator having his face smashed in therefore it would have malfunctioned and been physically damaged
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Says we don't have the original theatrical versions of the Star Wars trilogy, yet 4K77, 4K80, and 4K83 exist for free. 🤷♂️
What's more distracting to me (I've never seen the eye as a problem) is that Arnold looks even younger on this re-issue's cover of _T2_ than he did in the original, _The Terminator._
I always rationalized the eye not shifting as part of the damage he’d sustained.
I have been wanting this done since the movie came out… That static eye is such a eye sore (hehe) to an otherwise masterpiece. I was and still am a crazy Terminator fanboy. You nailed it on head… CGI and visual computer graphics should be there to mitigate and enhance practical effects, not replace them. Obviously they also need to be used when practical effects are not possible for the desired result such as the examples you gave. However, I am totally down with going back and mitigating and enhancing older movies with CGI touch ups. I think if done correctly they will help older movies age better.
Awesome job! You can now feel that there's more emotion in the actual T800, as opposed from it all coming from the flesh bodied Arnie side of the character, if that makes sense. Just from his eye now tracked, looking at Sarah and then down to John, you can see it's the machine that actually cares. That's what I get from this anyway lol 😂 Subbed! 👍
Daaaamn. Having the eye move in those quiet closeups actually sells the 'reality' of the terminator so much! It absolutely enhances the performance.
the T-800 is able to speak because he has human vocal cords or because he has an artificial speaker? because everytime he burns or explodes and only the steel skeleton is left he is unable to even make a single sound.
I think CGI works best when it briefly complements real practical effects. When the entire screen is green, I don't want it. This is why some movies from the 80s and 90s aged flawlessly and even managed to outshine movies from today.
I love a video that leaves me smiling and laughing at the end! A+ content and effects! Cheers!
Cordery,i love your obsession with T2 ! I was worse,i rented it on vhs when i was 11,and said to my parents i've lost the tape,just to watch it everyday afterwards when parents were at work...
T2 / Aliens and Predator 1 are the holy trio of cult action movies that will never be surpassed,remade,rebooted or else!
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To bad I didn't have a vhs player those days, but I agree with your holy trio proposal, the studios should do a remastered Bluray pack with these movies and include their awesome second parts too! There's still so much milk from the holy trio to be milked for years to come!
Leon Furlan, Same As Man those 3 are Quality Films! I'd add these to a similar list The Thing/Escape from New York n Robocop! They're just Soooo Fuckin Cool Man! Cheers
@@personanongratis i am just amazed that nobody surpassed the feeling of those films even 35 yrs later!? With all the cgi,big budgets and big stars,still nothing comes close!
I think it just shows that not all is in the budget or movie technology and big picture resolution...
@@eddysandland58 true! They tried to remake all of them,and every try was worse than the last! The Thing (2011) remake = terrible, every Terminator after 3 = disgusting , The Predator (2018) = worst movie i've ever seen ,.Prometheus/Covenant = omg , Robocop (2015?) = ufff ,and so on!
Looks like it is impossible to remake them,they should'nt even try!
@General Grievous The Galactic Hero myyy mannn!!!
You don't fix the crack on the liberty bell, you don't straighten the leaning tower of Piza, you don't put arms on the venus de milo. Its best to just leave old works of art alone.
None of those started that way though
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 yes but it is the way we all know them now, and you still wouldn't actually fix any of them. And as for movies, they DID start that way
@@lander77477 you don't know what I would do. I would restore them to their original value
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 Well yes restoring a movie is like scanning the original negatives in 4 or 8k and releasing them on disk in their highest quality. What is wrong is altering the movie
@@lander77477 sometimes, you can restore the artists intension
I never knew I needed an Arnold dubbed Bad Guy. Thank you for blessing me with this.
those practical effects are still unmatched!!!
well done with your effects btw!
ALSO... I know Terminators from the 700 series can mimic voices but i can't unhear Arnie as a terminator singing "Bad Guy" now! ...thanks
I have some thoughts. When you referenced the first Terminators puppet, I thought "Sure it seems tacky by today's standards but the puppet had this uncanny valley feel that adds to the fact that this is a machine made to look like a human." Honestly, the puppet freaked me out when I first saw it in the film. I had no idea it was a puppet, I wasn't sure what I was seeing but... it felt unnatural. I like this video though, and I think what you did looks great, and I would love to see a bigger studio tackle something like this.
Arnold becomes genuinely terrifying to look at as both the movie, and the Terminator flesh rotting progresses.
My biggest problem was the night scene when the T-1000 latches onto the back of the cop car speeding away with his metal hooks, the shot where the car slides around the corner with the T-1000 dragging behind it - that just looks like a terrible mannequin doll rolling around...
For me the worst is probably the bike scene when they are chased by the truck and it's obviously two stunt guys with the same clothes that don't look like Schwarzenegger and Furlong at all.
@@folksurvival Yeah, I think that's most ppl's "mistake". I always found it funny as a kid and paused the VHS cause I think the guy also blew his cheeks up didn't he?😅
Give it time, what did you want? let Robert Patrick get hurt on the track? the film was released in 1991 damn
@@maviaelmaiadejesus3794Your comment makes zero sense. By your rationale, instead of using CGI for the T-1000 they should have just covered Robert Patrick in tin foil "because it was 1991".
Compared to the jaw which was a more integral part of tbe design, the eye never really bothered me. It wasn't that obvious. Still your 'fix' looked good
This is cool, but I never had a problem with the eye. I always thought it was damaged.
Actually, in the next terminator, arnold can give his motion capture and voice to the t 800 exoskeleton without his human tissue.
😆real video starts from here 6:44
6:53 Eye fixing commences
3:55 Morally? None of this is a moral discussion
Its right eye was meant to be broken, unable to turn due to some malfunctioning to its hardware.
Although the scene worked fine, maybe for those of us who grew up with the original, I like that minor fix. Just adds that extra level of believability to the scene. Great job! 😊
I think this could be a fun multi-editor project. Though, I think all it really needed was your 2D tracking effect. Did you keyframe it all or was Mocha able to track the eye movements?
Maybe the eye doesn't move because it was damaged in the fight.
Picking the nits out of the T1000 uniform is the most pure form of nitpicking I've ever seen. Ever. I love it.
The eye never bothered me, let’s face it half of his face is ripped off so to me it would seem normal that things have gone a bit wonky.
They could still bring Arnold back to voice a fully exposed T-800 Exoskeleton. It's not impossible.
4:51 _"Luke is thinking, hey! it's Obi-wan and Yoda, the way I remember them. Who the eff is that?"_
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I can tell from the nitpicking that you had for T2 that you've watched it 20 times from start to finish over the years. Also, it feels like they have to skin off half of Arnold's face every Terminator movie to reveal the robot eye. Like it's in the contract or something.
Somewhat off-topic but the scene where T💯0 jumps onto the back of the police car STILL to this day makes me laugh. Something about dummies and their lifeless bodies just getting dragged or flung around has always tickled my funny bone.
Actually its from doing these videos. When you live with the HD footage of these movies for so long you just can't un see stuff now. Like the facehuggers scene from Aliens. All I see are strings now.
Stuff like this I didn't mind when I was a kid, and still I don't mind these days, it doesn't take me out of the movie, but it does take out a chuckle from me here and there!
*5:41** Its s cool to see they digitally made that red-dotted eye actually move from facing forward to beaming at the truck driver. Press . and , to see each frame!*
I figured with the eye, it was due to the smashing the skull took earlier in the film when the T-1000 literally smashed it between that makeshift ram and the wall, it caused the eye to seize up due to it getting literally compacted into the skull. It is admittedly a bit of cope, but it helped keep myself in the film when I was young. That said, I love what you did, it's simple... it's effective, and as uncanny and disturbing as it is, it's how you'd envision it being in real life, looking at a machine beneath the man. I also hate how the T-800 endoskeleton has become less and less terrifying as I've gotten older.... Lighting and visual effects people... come on!
The eye was supposed to be not functuional due to the damage t-1000 made to it , that is why it is locked
The eye effect bothered me from day one in 1991 on until now. Thanks for bringing this topic up.👍
btw: Another thing is that the foster dad switches the hand he is holding the milk package with between cuts for no logic reason. And there is the question, how did the T1000 manage to kill the foster mom while her husband is around with him not noticing anything? What did the T1000 do with the body afterwards? And why not killing them both at once? I mean, except for making the awesome milk package scene possible 😉 but logically it doesn't make sense.
One might assume they probably shot such scenes but it would account for unnecessary dragged out shots just to show the casualties factor plus making the film more longer. Thus the editing before release. The damaged eye issue is well, a visual context to the circumstance inflicted by the T1000....taking brutal hits to a vital component will cause malfunctions thus the eye not moving. Besides it was the best use of facial practical effects. This video just nit pick to a detail which only bothers for todays CGI efficiency factor. Besides this movie still stands for its story, the other iterations might have improved CG but thats about it.
I get what you’re sayin. But, you can even go far back as to why didn’t the terminators just duke it out at John’s house and the victor wait for John to come home?
@@me4067 Maybe i was carried away a bit. 😁 You are right. Why the T1000 doesn't wait for John to come home? It could be he is programmed to be proactive and not just to wait for it's target to come home? I don't know. BUT the Genesys movie in my opinion showed the biggest "mistake" or better "problem" better than the description we get in T1. In the moment the "evil" Terminator went throuh the time shifting device (or what it's called, i forgot) it's completely pointless to send someone or something through as well because the Terminator did already long ago either fullfill it's mission or didn't. The moment in time the Terminator has been send to is about 50 years ago from 2029!? But anyways, T2 is in my opinion still the best action movie ever made. At least it's among the best three.
@@changsangma1915 Yes, you're right. This is nitpicking within what probably is still the best action movie of all times.