THIS is the problem with today's music industry!
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- Tonight we're comparing the live version of 'No Time To Die' to the original studio version!
PERFORMANCE VIDEO - • Billie Eilish - No Tim...
Original Single - • Billie Eilish - No Tim...
TIME STAMPS -
0:00 Intro
1:19 Isolated Studio Vocal
2:12 Analysis Start - Pitch Corrected or Not?
6:31 Isolated Live Vocal
7:09 Analysis
8:51 The Problem with the Current Industry
11:57 Simultaneous Isolated Vocals
19:26 End Chorus
20:49 The Elephant in the Room!
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It's sad that the music industry has gotten to a point where a listener starts questioning the ability of an artists or bands whether or not it's their actual voice in tune. I am glad that I grew up in a time period where imperfection was considered normal. and technology hadn't gotten to technical for our own good.
I also think audiences/media are so judgmental that artists feel obligated to use backtracks with live performances. I would like imperfection and acceptance of how the body changes the voice with aging to be a regular thing. Thank you for your comment.
I don’t think this is really true. “Listeners” hear something and they like it or they don’t. Few visitors to art museums analyze or process brush strokes and symmetry in their heads.
As far as music the obsession over these things..for a while it was compression, now it’s pitch correction and auto tune sometimes goes too far. An analysis of a joke or any comedy invariably renders it unfunny.
I think Fil is walking a fine line here. So far he’s not toppled over. Selecting POP or hip hop or rap is low hanging fruit for these “is it real or is it memorex” moments. That acceptable imperfection is still present in most genres snd niches. Indie, Americana, hard rock, metal, blues, jazz etc.
Finally, if you do not notice pitch correction without putting a meter on it, for all intents and purposes it isn’t there. You don’t know for example if a vocal (or any music passage) was one take or comped. EQ’d etc etc etc unless the technique is intrusive and too noticeable.
@@tcconnection Yes this expectation is not new it goes back to early to mid Twentieth Century. At the point when music production crafted sound that was more "perfect" than live music. People began to expect the Artist to sound the same live as on their Albums.
That's what he said in the video...the exact premise. Did you post this before you watched it or just literally repeating his script?
@@tcconnection so the Moody Blues should have left the Melotron home!
Billie and Finneas have previously said that they just made a personal rule not to use pitch correction - unless it was for deliberate and obvious effect.
like making money on crappy songs ?
@@Ebolter1 the hell are you trying to make in point?
nice name dweeb , try replying in a language that is grammatically correct
deliberate and obvious effect? what?!
You don’t have to pitch correct when it takes 150 comps to get through three minute song. Lots of people can sing very well two or three notes at a time. And that’s what you hear when you listen to a Billie Eilish record
But maybe because they don’t autotune, they do save much of the feeling, even though you’re not hearing an actual performance of the song.
And I like Billie. no hate here.
So much emotional impact is lost when an orchestra doesn't get to actually make those amazing vibrations with their instruments! Thank you for pointing out the hidden problems of canned music and pitch corrected vocals - all the artistry we lose and all the artistry we doubt.
One of my conductors, many years ago, would say each performance was a last performance since it is impossible to replicate a performance exactly. So many factors change with each performance that each one should be considered singular in existence and not just going through the motions of repetition.
Totally right
That is why a live performance has an own and special value, right? Personally, I like the artist's creative variations in each different performance, according to her/his temporary mood, precisely because it shows versatility and most probably also the creative evolution of the song.
As a musician, I really appreciate your analysis work. I learn a lot from you.
That smile on your face when her voice kicked in told me everything I needed to know. That was a look of genuine enjoyment and appreciation for another artist. What little of her music I've heard made it pretty clear that she's a very talented young lady with a LONG career ahead of her.
Thanks Fil, that was really enjoyable and informative!
We are part of the same homeschool community as Billie and Finneas though my kids are much younger. They remember how nice both were to the younger kids and they would play and sing with them at parks. They were both very blessed to be in an environment that encouraged them to develop and strengthen their vision while giving them the skills to be “outsiders” and not feel the pressure to conform to what everyone else is doing.
I wish I had been in the homeschool parenting world. My kids were schooled in decent schools. Two actually in the top 250 nationwide at the time. Very blah experience in my opinion
But she sure seems to be a conformist now.
@@katiejon17no she doesn’t
@@katiejon17 nothing conformist about her.
@@dicanini she is 100% conformist. Neon hair.... just like the trend. Make-up.... just like the tenders wear it. A perfume line.... just like all the other pop starts. The clothing... just like the trends.
I don't like Billie's singing style (whispering)... But knowing that she doesn't use pitch correction (at least here...don't know) makes me happy.
even punk bands use pitch correction now dude no one is untuned unless they are self produced and cant figure out the software
I'm with you on that!
What would happen if back in the day someone tried to auto tune David Byrne?
@@TommyWashow Autotune is garbage. Another reason music is garbage today.
I literally was about to type this comment. Ha ha. I can't stand her whispering. But if she is not pitch correcting something, then perhaps she can be force to be a push back against this horrible synthesizing of human voices.
If only she would sing something.
I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this, but Finneas and Billie have said in interviews that they comp her vocals for days. There are shed loads of edits in every track. A much more diligent, authentic and time consuming method of perfection. And of course comping acts as a deep grain rehearsal for the singer, to really imprint every nuance of the recording into their live performance
OR - They can just brute force talent.. Taking the 'good' cuts from 10000 takes and throw em together so they actually sound somewhat reasonable. Turns out if you polish a turd hard enough, you can make a diamond.
@@tvlkn9130 Okay, I’ll try not to get too hot about this. When writing a song, one of the ways to explore the melodic line, the phrasing, the dynamics, is thru multiple takes, and then comping those takes into what the artist wants.
In the end, there are actual live performances, wherein the artist has learned her own comps. The tours, the TV appearances are live, with no autotune there, either. You are complaining about the Writing Process. Go watch her sing Peggy Lee’s Fever with the Duke Ellington Orchestra at the Hollywood Bowl, and you’ll hear a real singer with control, who is in the pocket. Look at the bassist - he is digging playing behind that woman. Billie Eillish is the Real Deal.
You wanna complain? Try Madonna, lip-syncing her songs on tour.
@@stuffnuns You think that was a complaint? it was an observation/comment about someone making copy-paste music.
Sure, I get doing different takes/versions during the creative process. That's not uncommon at all. But there is a difference between trying different styles/takes on something - compared to redoing the same thing over and over (because most of it sounds bad) - and then slapping the good bits together like a musical scrap book.
It’s admirable nowadays that she does that, but I find this woozy-sounding diction that has been everywhere for over 10 years now to be affected and wearisome - just sing the words, goddammit!
Trying to reframe lots of time spent compositing as a good thing is like saying lots of time spent correcting misspelled words shows someone must be a good writer. A good singer would just do a 2nd take. It would sound better and require less time. Extensive comping is only considered acceptable when getting a complete take isn’t possible in the allotted recording time.
For a while Apple included the full recording sessions of Billie Eilish’s ‘Ocean Eyes” as a sample project bundled with Logic Pro X. It had all the individual instrument tracks and all the vocal tracks and effects, even including all the individual takes that were comped into the final mix. If you listened to a single vocal solo’d you could even hear background sounds that were recorded inadvertently along with the vocals (it always surprises me that pro recordings often are not “perfectly” noiseless). There was clearly no artificial pitch correction being used anywhere.
I remember that, it's so cool when artists share the stems to understand how they do it. Probably because they recorded most songs in Finneas bedroom and not in a studio.
Proving again that the most important parts of recorded music are composition and a performance, not how polished the recording is. It’s easy to get lost in the sauce with new fancy plugins and gear constantly coming out but at the end of the day that stuff doesn’t really even matter
God bless her live engineer for getting that whisper vocal out front of a band..
Singers these days tend to have no voice :-/
Fascinating! Especially the last bit where Fil shows that the singer is live but the backing musicians are miming! Wow!
Fil,
Though I am not familiar with Billie's work, I appreciate you coving this and stating that she not using auto tune nor pitch control. I never knew what those two terms meant until I began watching you. I've learned so much.
God bless to all, Marianne ❤ 19:49
I'm old enough that I remember the criticism The Monkees got in the late 1960s when it was made public that the members of the band didn't play any instruments on their albums. They performed their vocals, but members of The Wrecking Crew (Los Angeles' top session musicians) played on all the backing tracks. What wasn't known is that the same members of The Wrecking Crew also played on all of the Beach Boys albums as well as singles and albums by Sonny and Cher, The Association, The Byrds, and many other recording artists. However, these days, it doesn't seem to bother anyone that singers are auto-tuned, and in many cases, through Artificial Intelligence, computers are writing melodies and even lyrics. The point is that in the 1960s and '70s (and onward), most listeners expected that artists maintained a certain degree of integrity: that they had enough virtuosity that they played their instruments and sang on their records. And what those artists were doing was both revolutionary and very, very good. When you grow up listening to The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, CSNY, The Who, The Doors, Simon & Garfunkel, Santana, and Chicago, you were impressed with the quality of what was being produced as well as how fresh and original it sounded. And each artist had their own sound. When you heard The Doors or Crosby Stills and Nash, it simply couldn't be anyone else. The whole point was not to copy someone else; it was to sound like no one else. Now? With A.I. and auto-tune, it seems like the object is for everyone to sound like everyone else. By the way, I really appreciate the fact that you cover music by people who aren't "hip", but are just really good. For example, I didn't listen to The Carpenters very much as a teenager, but I now have an immense appreciation for Karen Carpenter's voice, and how pitch-perfect she was. And even songwriters who were considered "square" at the time, like Burt Bacharach, have stood the test of time, and are now considered masters of songwriting. Anyway, keep up the good work !!!
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@Bambino_60 that's not what word salad is!! 😂
I was immediately enthralled by her voice and style though I am generations removed. Audiences went wild too, then suddenly the plague shut down her concerts.
Billie and her brother were home schooled and spent a lot of time on their home studio though Billie did sing in a choir of sorts. Someone taught her well.
Plus, they sampled unlikely sounds in some of their recordings. So clever.
Thanks for another fascinating “expose”.
plague...LMAO!
Actually she was a member of the prestigious Los Angeles Children’s choir for five years. The sixth year she was devastated when she didn’t make the cut but then they released Angel Eyes on sound cloud that year, so if she had been chosen for the choir, she wouldn’t have become famous… which is a scary thought!
@@kristineteall368 What? she stopped doing chorus the same year Ocean eyes became viral on Sound cloud, she had to stop doing chorus and dance because of the success, there are videos (from this Choir page) of her the same year (2016) she became famous was still singing in this chorus .. what are you spreading and where did you get this info?
I believe she also talks about it from her interview with David Letterman she did last year? She talked about trying out and not making it. She also said that had she been chosen for the choir she would not have had the time to tour.
@@hoy68290 she also became injured and could no liver dance, but I believe that was after the song was released because they posted for her dance class.
Glad to hear that Billie Eilish will sing live and sound just as good as in studio. But, it is a bummer to hear that a full, talented orchestra is having to pretend they are playing their instruments. I agree, Fil, that missing out on hearing the sound of a great orchestra’s live performance is a sad thing.
Yeah, that's a knock against Billie here. She wants the music she knows and doesn't want to follow the orchestra. That's disappointing -- if you're going to go for it, just go for it. Bring it to life completely.
“…sound just as good…”
That’s relative and extremely subjective.
"sing"???? It's mediocre crooning.
Fil, thank you for being here "for the talent." This analysis is fascinating, very informative about the orchestra.
I agree.
It's not the pitch accuracy that I am taking note of here but, instead, it's the intervals, the timing. The studio and live versions, when played simultaneously, match up about as closely as they possibly could. Sure, you can alter the frequencies sung but it would be an added level of complexity to artificially make sure that the attack and delay times of the individual notes match up as perfectly as they do here. It was simply brilliant to play the two versions simultaneously! If played sequentially I would probably not have been able to catch the match up.
I want to add praise to her talent too: singing softly and breathy like she do (very much jazz) is not easy as it may seam
Absolutely, I was a performing vocalist much of my life and have been around so many others and singing in pitch soft and low is absolutely as, if not more challenging than belting high. For myself much more of a challenge, but if you ever see live performances of some dynamic "powerhouse" vocalists from Christina Aguilera to Chris Cornell you will see they fall off the pitch the most in their lower range and soft voice. When I first heard Billie Eilish I was floored by her pitch. I could see it was not lip-synched and she was absolutely dead on low. SO very impressive. All that said she's still working on her full-voiced upper power.. that's her "weakness" if you need to call it that, but really I say she just knows her "superpower" and is playing to it. Fantastic.
@@johndavidhoward It is a weakness for sure. She has a very narrow lane with her style and is kind of stuck there. Shes just meh.
actually it is irritating...
@@fanatic26 She's very, very meh - I agree.
@@fanatic26nope, she’s only gotten better and more comfortable with her voice watch her recent live performances, her chest and head voice is now being used by her more confidently and with good support. She’s not meh she’s growing and getting better
50's > late 90's.. we already had good the good stuff... the last 2 decades have been absolutely dire..
Just great stuff. Thank you for pointing all this out about past artists, as well as the few current artists who really can do it.
Pitch correction is such a weird phenomenon when you realize that often means adjusting pitches to the 12 common steps in an octave, while the human voice is naturally so capable of producing way more harmonic tones but also anything inbetween that is in potential more interesting. It's really just a quickfix for people who aren't properly skilled in using their instrument.
Yet I love how they heavily experiment with effects and production techniques in general that are not just meant to "enhance" the recording.
Fil, just as other musical geniuses have created content around their appreciation of music such as Rick Beato, my own fascination and appreciation of music has been challenged and expended every time I watch one of your videos. The detail and specificity you show in your content is very original and eye-opening for a lot of people. For someone that cherishes music history, I thank you for helping your audience at every turn of the journey you take them on. Rock on. Cheers
Billie is such a remarkable artist, and the way she and her brother have maintained control of their product is why she is one of the few modern artists that I will always want to hear. My ears told me what your meter is showing: her voice is real, and she has talent that is always available to hear, live or in the studio. I wish we had more of her quality around.
Lololol are you on crack??!!
you mean the two songs they have ?
The only thing I don't understand up to this song why she mostly sang songs that I call as "ASMR songs", which I really hated. If she has this talent, she wasted it for a long time. I don't care about the millions that like her work up to this song. Compare "Bad Guy" to this masterpiece.. I don't really get today's people's musical taste(!) (in general)
@@sahinbergyou mean the brain washed younger generation?
I'm not very familiar with her music, but she seems like an old hippie soul in a young body. So, I can understand her not using any auto 'corrections' in her singing. Good for her! Keep the faith of the music Billie!
Issue is artists will record a vocal track JUST for live, thus not using the “same vocal from album). Even MJ did this a few times. Example…..If you watch “Elizabeth I Love You” live by Michael Jackson (for Elizabeth Taylor), he had prerecorded JUST the pre chorus and chorus. He sang the verses live, but soon as the pre chorus starts, the pre recorded vocals kick in. So after he says “that’s what they sold you” the recorded vocals kick in “Grace with beauty, charm and talent”, leading to chorus. You can tell by A the muffled sound from the microphone for verses and slight pitch issues…slight….And Then the pre chorus and chorus are flawless, crisp, clear and for an engineer or producer can tell. But both verses are indeed live. He did this for 2 reasons, to make it perfect for his friend, and also not cheat her by giving her live vocals as well. Maybe you can cover that video.
Thank you for analysing Billie’s voice.
I personally adore her and Finnias. It’s the rawness for me that you just don’t hear so often these days.
What’s interesting is that they do use effects and heavy autotune on the track, NDA.
Not to correct her pitch or disguise poor vocals but to add to the effect of the song.
Brilliant.
She has such a unique voice. Good analysis for us and info, as usual. Thanks Fil 😊🌑✨️🎶🎙🎸
I loved hearing her sing Fever and Is That All there Is with Debbie Harry. You can find those performances on TH-cam and shows just how good she is. No autotune or pitch correction needed. Just beautiful. She needs to make a jazz album!!!
I totally agree
Try the original artist on both songs - Peggy Lee. Much better.
@@pstanton2445 I'm highly familiar. I own quite a few of her hits. I just really enjoyed Eilish's interpretation of those two songs, and think she has a lot of potential.
That's fair. 🙂
yes, she has the perfect voice for jazz, that performance is one of my favorite from her. Also if you haven't seen there's a performance by for for Sally's song Live at Nightmare Before Christmas 202. It's a complete different style but once again she show her singing ability perfectly
I think the biggest advantage for Billie was that her brother wanted to go in the same direction. Being siblings, they knew each other so much better than a hired gun gun producer could have know the artist. They captured and finessed what they wanted to and it shows. Indeed, sometimes the slight bends, imperfections and performance nuances are what makes the greats, GREAT.
The advantage that Finneus wanted to produce, giving Billie the chance to just focus on her vocals, is a benefit most singers no longer get. And being family, the unnatural sound of pitch correction is likely to hit harder. He knows what notes she can reach and they can just do more takes another day if she won't hit it that day.
I hope they don't come out with a Oasis. Y'know... two brothers hating eachother-
That was great. Beautiful vocal. More power to her for resisting the law of auto tuning!
And this is why they shouldn't use backing tracks live. It not only discredits the orchestra musicians who have actually physically turned up to the performance, only to be told to sit there and pretend to play, it also discredits the singer, Billie in this case, because now everyone watching and listening to this performance would never ever believe that the musicians are pretending and so because it sounds SO IDENTICAL to the studio version they are pointing the finger at her implying she has had autotune or pitch correct applied to her voice. Sad times 😩
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I've heard of Billie Eilish before, but I think this is the first time I listen to one of her songs. Interesting singing voice 🤔
Great analysis, Fil. Thank you 🖤🤘🏽
Love your reaction, Fil. Very sad that people no longer recognize a singer that can actually carry something on their own without auto tune. Not knocking the person who couldn't figure it out - I may not have been able to figure that out either without watching you show us how that is her actual voice. People are just expecting auto tune, pitch correction, all kinds of production of voices so they almost sound like AI. I just watched a video about recording artists lending their voices to AI and then using AI to imitate their voices. Very strange to me - so maybe someday we won't know if it is an actual person singing? I find that quite frightening.
AI in general is absolutely terrifying. Yet for some strange reason we persist down this crazy path.
@@29memyselfandi ai may help us find answers we would never find otherwise, but it's extremely dangerous anyway; I can't deny that
@29memyselfandi Because certain powers are pushing for its development, not the general public so much I don't think.
I love that you have confirmed what I suspected, that Billie has the artistic integrity AND skill to unabashedly leave her studio vocal alone without processing them with autotune. You are doing the music listening world a tremendous favor. Please do a similar comparison on Larkin Poe, another group I love that has incredible vocals and after seeing them live recently, I am firmly convinced they also do not process their vocals. Pure talent for all to hear.
does it matter if something is melodyned when it sounds good? that should be the only metric imo
Thanks Fil. I always appreciate your work. This one is especially interesting and revealing about Billie's talent obviously, but mostly about the honest evaluation you bring every time you bring us through a singer's performance. Concerning Billie's talent, I'm not into that kind of music, but you gave me good insights to respect what she does.
Thank you for making this video it popped up on my suggestion page. It was really neat to see the studio and live comparison, but also the reveal that the orchestra wasn't really playing during the event, which feels kind of sad but also might explain how in some 'live' orchestra on stage videos I see.. that some are placed in weird locations that might drown out their instruments. Also: And I apologize if this was mentioned within the year that this video has been out.. but the audio of the video goes out around the 24 min 44 second mark and doesn't come back. Transcript / close caption is auto generated so they reveal nothing after that mark. Anyway I'm looking forward to seeing your other videos and benevolent wishes to you and yours in regards to 2024 and your endeavors. : )
Thanks Fil. Your videos are always interesting and full of information.
I saw a live version of this track (which is brilliant) and she absolutely nailed it. I love that she approaches her craft with great understatement. I think the ones who complain a lot about breathy vocals are just being grouchy like “old man yelling at cloud”. Dynamic singing has been around forever, whispering, screaming, all of it. It is good that you are dispelling some of the dumb myths abound about Antares and Melodyne or whatever DAW pitch correction plugins get used. If used subtly, they don’t sound like Cher🙄 I avoid them mostly, because I think it is valuable to get the pipes warmed up and naturally in tune, but if I get a good take with one sour candy, I am tweaking that baby or punching it in. It has to be seamless (the edit job, insofar as it feels properly in the context of what is before and after, not the entire vocal…real edges and imperfections are lovely things). Studios have always aspired to a certain kind of perfectionism. The tools we now have sometimes make it easier to adjust something that is good, but maybe “a mistake too far”😂
Wow...this one had a few things to take away from it, I always learn "something" from your analysis videos, very interesting for sure!
Thanks so much Fil!🌷
I always appreciate your videos and knowledge. Thank you. Since Billie credits Aurora as a big reason she wanted to have a career as a singer, try checking out Aurora "Cure for Me" acapella. "The Seed" or "Runaway." Runaway is apparently the song Billie heard from Aurora that made her say "I want to do that." Aurora does not use auto tune.
Maybe Fil should do a comparison between the official audio of Runaway and the 'Nobel Peace Prize' version.
This was the year I went to the Brit awards as my fiancé always wanted to go. I was very impressed by her performance. It’s nice to watch this and see the detail behind her singing, thanks for the video!
Thank you for this video. Anyone who eschews the Autotune/Pitchcorrected crap gets my nod of appreciation.
Brava Billie! Bravo Fil! She and her brother, Finneas, are delightfully talented and down to earth. I'm so glad to see such a searching appreciative analysis!
I’ve covered this on my page! 25+ yrs as a vocalist, it was awesome 2 cover bc there isnt a ton of effects or tuning on the vocal! She’s inherently jazz with a certain jazz technique that slides through a song skimming over notes. It actually requires a lot of breath control but the confidence to be loose enough & not grip your vocal! Less is more! Which most vocalists find the hardest thing to do! To pull right back! I watched a lot of her live ones & compared all of them. Once u sit in jazz it’s a very simple technique 2 obtain but it takes time & years to perfect. Jazz singers are usually born that way! Unlike other genres that can move through other genres jazz is jazz it’s not easy for a jazz singer to be anything but that! What they’ve both done is very clever they have kept the jazz technique & jazz style because that’s what she is, but put it over new age pop sound. I have a lot of respect for both of them. They’re very clever writers & creators.
Well stated! Her performance on this year’s Grammy’s of What was I Made For is SO beautiful! Singing with that level of breathiness is hard, as I’m sure you know! Such a Jazz sound. Great to hear such a stripped back performance on an award show.
I finally get her now thanks to your comment! My kiddo has been into her since the beginning, and I never thought her voice was much to write home about. But now I comprehend it. Thank you! 😃
Great analysis Fil. It was interesting to see the comparison between both vocals and the accuracy of them on the pitch monitor.
The disservice that pitch correction does is not just to the listener or tte quality of music in general. It robs the artist of reaching the highest limits of their ability. When you can't fall back on auto tune, you have to be good. Really good. This is what makes Billie and Adele stand out (obviously there are others). The other thing it does is it dehumanizes music to the point where the whole point of the art, to convey some sort of emotion artistically, is pretty much gone. This is why records that came out before the 2000s continue to sell massively. Theres something about hearing someone like Whitney Houston sing at such a level knowing that she used nothing but maybe some reverb. Or any rock band, especially guys like Lou Gramm of Foreigner who influenced many of the 80s rock vocalists. People who could just flat out sing naturally, but got way better because they had too. This made their live performances top notch as well.
Find your content so interesting and instructive as a music lover of many years. Thank you for the explanation of the music.🤩
I am such a big fan, Karen Carpenter was my 1st❤ I enjoy watching the pure love and enthusiasm you bring to music. Thx for sharing
That was great! You're really good at breaking that stuff down!
Supposing...and I'm not suggesting Billie Eilish did this, I happen to think she is a remarkable talent...but supposing in some cases, just to be sneaky, certain artists were miming live NOT to the regular studio single version, but, say, an alternative studio vocal so that it sounds good and people can't criticise it for being the single version. Does that make sense? x
Yes, that actually happens. Even re-record the vocals to the live performance in the studio. This is not the case though
Never felt like rushing out to buy her and her brother's music but I respect her for her individuality and the pair's creativity. The number of clones that quickly, (quicker than ever), popped was a testament to that.
Great Bond theme. Nearly up there with Wings' and Chris Cornell's.
Another great analysis. I really appreciate singers like Billie. The orchestra miming reminds me of the official music video for Don't Stop Me Now where Brian May is 'playing' the entire time.
I'll be damned if I can hear a discernabale melody in her music... and her singing is all breathy and wobbly
It’s sad to see this happening in the music industry especially with a full orchestra. Seeing a full orchestra live is an amazing experience. The audience were robbed of an opportunity to seeing an orchestra play for possibly the first time.
I also have to say seeing any bands perform live nowadays is highway robbery. The tickets are not cheap. I remember seeing bands for less than $80 a ticket. Now, we are looking at $1500 a ticket. What a huge price increase! Don’t bands know that most fans are blue collar workers or college students who live paycheck to paycheck? How in the world can fans afford tickets to see bands costing this much? Yes, I understand they are no longer making money off the release of new music. Yet, there are other ways to make money and not charge outrageous prices for concert tickets.
I'm still a lover of the light crackling and hiss of early vinyl of my era.
And true talent practised and performed with lots of hard, hard work . ❤️☮️
I'm not that familiar with her music, but, my granddaughter is a fan. Naturally, that piques my interest. Thanks for all you do, Fil...always enjoy and appreciate it! Rosemarie 💖
I'd love to hear some analysis on their production methods - they're a rare duo that is incredibly deliberate with having the instrumentation supporting the vocals and the lyrics. Nothing sounds out of place, or is there "just because that's how a song within a certain genre should be like".
This video ended (the elephant in the room) in a place that I did NOT expect when I started the video! Thank you for showcasing this detail.
Funny how auto tune has become so overdone that we think it’s used ALL the time. Billie has a great unusual voice. What a fantastic analysis Fil.
Enjoy the king’s coronation tomorrow. Idk who’s performing , but I hope it will be someone amazing. ❤❤be well and ROCK !!🤘🏿🤘🏿
Thank you for telling us where the talent is 🤗! It's much appreciated, Fil!
I'm not a Billie Eilish fan and couldn't listen to her for a long time, but her vocal control is impressive. This Bond song was performed masterfully by her.
Aloha from Berlin ❤🧡💛💚💙
During COVID lockdown I became almost obsessed with "Bad Guy" & listened to it a LOT. At times Billie Eilish Pirate's audience carrying the chorus was so powerful it gave me chills!!❤
@@candydale8380 lockdown...bahahahahaha!
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I love how an artist that can actually sing so well always sing it better live....
I like how you analyze these songs. I am not familiar with her work, but she is giving it her best shot!
This is the absolute accolade, when given this setup and not you (as the singer) is told to mime, but the whole orchestra instead 😂
This would be the ultimate unreasonable life goal.. 😭
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. I've been saying for years that Billie's voice is just her, But people just believe it's all "Auto Tune".
Her voice is just sooo lovely- you know it’s never tuned because her notes aren’t controlled and perfect. People who think otherwise have tin ears 🤷🏻♀️ It really is irritating when people think they know a thing 🙄🙄
@@cbkqmom Just peeps who think all new music is Sh*t without taking the time to really listen. Billie is the best singer since Karen.
Great! As usual. Thank you!
Excellent video. Very informative. Thank you.
I always appreciate your analysis. It's interesting too that when they record harmonizing or doubling tracks she and Finneas record all the parts "live" and if they don't like a take they just do it over and over until it's right, rather than just double track electronically or use artificial harmonies. Probably why she's so good live in concert. Besides her natural talent she works really hard at it.
I love REAL vocals and music! Great video! I just did a live off the floor session with an awesome producer who does not believe in auto tune ......i certainly wasn't perfect.....but it had a great real sound and energy! The way music is the best....real and from the heart! Thanks for this video!
20:50 true. Professional drummer here. I've been paid to mime on stage. In my case it was congas. I did phusically play the congas, but because they weren't mic'd there's no way anyone in the audience would have heard it. That's another give away here. No mic's.
Great video. Thanks for the education.
What a rare stand-out talent of today. I thinks she works at her craft, too.
Fil you are truly the Singing Detective!!!!
Everyone is raving over Yebba's live performance of My Mind but I urge you to also check out the live vocal of her track Distance -- either way you will be blown away!
Really interesting analysis. This song give me goosebumps. It is so raw and emotional. Nice to see that what you hear is really her voice :)
Great analyze and so important. Vocal or linear gestures are all about interpretation.
Thanks Fil for enlightening us about Billie's vocal capability. I had lumped her in with most modern singers who couldn't hit notes if their lives depended on it.
My hope is that you educate music lovers, through your reviews, to the extent that the music industry is forced to revert to pre auto-tune days or lose financially.
I speak as someone who's spent several fortunes on music in the past 60 years.
A excellent view you Hit it out of the park! A excellent job on Billie Eilish. Absolutely cool work showing us the differences with you emphasizing with your voice. That was a excellent comparison Fil. I honestly thought they used a bit of magic on her Voice. Now listening to it as you shown here I learned something again! Appreciate you Fil Luv&Peace.✌🏼
Crazy! I was expecting u to also show Billy as using auto tune! Wow what a rare talent she and Adele!!
Thanks, Fil for your analysis of the talented Billie Eilish. This song was so well done. I discovered early her early on and introduced her to my granddaughter. She became a fan and was able to see her in concert. I am not a fan of auto tune.
Hi Fil,
Great analysis! I love Billie, she has a very unique style delivery and a very hauntingly beautiful vocal ability. Interesting to see the live and single versions side by side. Nice to know that there are singers who do not need to be “corrected”. Thank You for doing this analysis. Have a great night… Debbie☮️
I saw Billie live in St. Paul, Minnesota on March 15, 2022; when she sang "No Time to Die" my eyes teared up, not so much because of the song, but the occasion - written by Billie when she was 17 and Finneas 22 - a month later she, like Adele and Sam Smith, got the Oscar. I do think Finneas was playing and harmonizing with Billie. I loved how you reognized Billie's gifts as a vocalist and you provided helpful insights into a downside of the music industry.
Thank you for this marvelous analysis of Billy's voice. She sings every note with its own Vibration and glisando, like a little micro melody. These are not composed but rather discovered during many recording sessions.
Regarding the orchestra, I can tell you from personal experience that this is (sadly) common when orchestral players (usually strings) are hired as backup to pop singers or 'crossover artists'. You are usually given a part to read, but sometimes it doesn't entirely match what comes through the sound system; those parts are just so that your bow is moving at the right time for visual effect.
I'd rather hear a flat note here and there, a hot mic for a few seconds , and a horn playing a wrong note than this autotune stuff they keep trying to shove at us.
There are singers (well known) who would be painful to hear without it. I am ok with that. If one needs it, use it.
Spot on Fil! I have already started to doubt performances from excellent vocalists (Voiceplay for example), and that takes the beauty from the performance. I hope that they never find a way of pitch control a live performance, the live performance will be the ultimate "proof" of a singer's talent. And Billie is a huge talent!!
Thank you Fil for covering Billie, as much as some people don't care for her, her Brother and her are so very talented and I've been a fan from the beginning. I dove deep into her background to find out what I could about her and her story is very interesting with that being said I understand where her music comes from and listen not only her singing but her lyrics which are deep not just a pop song made up to get on the charts. It is interesting also to find out her Brother writes songs for some pretty big music artists in the industry so they are both doing something right to be where they are today. I can see she is also changing up her sound playing with some different gendras so we'll see where it goes but she's definetly a force to recon with in the music industry and I'll be waiting to see what she does next. I always enjoy your break downs of songs it's interesting and I learn from them❤
I was devastated when I learned that the Lawrence Welk band/show was air performing all those years ago , and even the tap dancers were prerecorded.... great vids BTW.... Me thinks its been a thing for a long time and now we have the tech to discern it...
💕 thanks so much Fil 💕
Listen before I go, live from the Steve Jobs theatre is beyond incredible. Everything in there is set up for perfection. It's incredible for all time not today x
Another excellent video🙏
I remember hearing her early on - she’s always been that natural and good!
And yeah, I was wondering during the vocal compare how you got the tempo/rhythm to match so closely😂
Of course live vocals with pre-recorded instrumental tracks isn’t new, but old grandpa me didn’t imagine “finger syncing” a song during a big awards show would be a thing… like it’s the new takeoff on TOTP or something?
I'm glad you did this one, Fil. I think Billie is amazing, and the production of Finneas is incredible. Have a great weekend! Dave
Angelina Jordan (17) can sing anything live masterfully (even acapella) Just listen to her songs in TH-cam. She has been singing jazz/blues from 3 years old and started singing at 1,5 years of age. She handles all the techniques like vocal fry, growling and vibrato and wild vocal riffs and runs (but she doesn't overdo it) and great dynamics. She can also sing very low pitches, like E2 or something like that with solid voice and there also using subtle vibrato. She did that already at 12 years of age (for example "How Great Thou Art"). She surely doesn't need any Autotune. Angelina also sings straight to her phone in TikTok or Instagram. She just yesterday sang in Instagram live (who else would do something like that?) with just her phone a big part of her new single (Republic Records) and it sounded very close to studio version to me but surely was a real live singing though, no doubt about that.
This is probably a reason I hate “new” music. I’ve never been able to accurately express why I don’t like it until now. As a drummer, I’ve long noticed that older (70s especially) can have tempo variations within the song. It’s not huge like rushes or drags in fills but more an organic natural change depending on the section. It’s completely missing in modern music.
there are no dynamics whatsoever.
Billie singing I Love You at The Greek Theatre is one of the most beautiful & heart wrenching live performances I've ever heard. She literally brings the whole audience (and me) to tears.
lmao
Great video. Her performances live on Howard stern with finneas are good. When the partys over.
That is not the result I expected! Love that she isn't using it like some contemporary artists, on every song.
Billie E sounds really kool when playing both versions simultaneously - a delay, echo, chorus effect that is really pleasing.
Thanks again for doing what you do. As you rightly point out, vocal cheating is so ubiquitous, many cheaters are getting credit for things they shouldn't, most unfortunately, and the truly gifted are being ignored because they are chucked into the giant bucket of fakes.
How does all of the modern analysis, via technology, analyze Art Garfunkel, Joe Cocker, Rod Stewart, Paul, John, Mick, Joni, Donovan, and ALL of the vocalists from times before all of the modern technology/corporate control? And, yes, being older generation, I freakin’ feel in love with Billie and Finneas from jump. I sent their first songs (that we all first heard) to my daughter who is Billie’s age. They have shown hope for the music industry, ever since the corporate takeover decades ago. Great video here. Thanks.
They could be playing the "single" track in her monitors.
I know I sing better with the actual track on head phones.
But as always, I appreciate you Fil!🤙🏼💖