Carlos Monzon Documentary - Machismo, Mayhem & Murder
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Monzon's true problem was alcohol. He was shy and quiet when sober, but become a monster when started to drink. Susana and Amilcar Brusa (his trainer) said that. Great work and vid.
Carlos Monzon was a huge star outside the ring in the Spanish speaking world back in the 70s. Magazines like Hola! often featured him because he lived the European jet-set lifestyle, he looked like a movie star, and he always had a gorgeous woman on his arm. Of course years later we learned that behind the glamourous façade he was still that mean street kid from the worst barrio in Buenos Aires. Violence and Monzon went hand in hand.
He was from Santa Fe, not BA.
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Dan Hunter@And who are you to say who C. Monzon really was ???Years later we learned that Glamor there was still that bad street boy(...)
But why are you babbling and judging things you've only heard through the mass media???People who think like you are extremely violent, because even if they don't know the real situation, they shoot zero ...We Westerners because of people like you (who represent most of the people) have reduced ourselves to feminine parlor gossip ... That's why our dear Western civilization is about to collapse and be definitively enslaved ... You never judge what you do not know, if you have your hypotheses you keep them to yourself otherwise you behave like the most revolting slanderer, and if you act like this with a character like Monzon you will surely do it with people who live on the same floor as you
This documentary is superb, you really know how to tell the story of violent but talented man full of anger. You forgot to mention that when his trainer took him to a doctor to make some x-rays, they discovered that Monzon's hand bones were hollow, caused by malnutrition. Thats the reason his style looks slow, he's saving his hands by throwing acurrate and devastating blows.
"He hired Gino not to bodyguard Monzon from the public but to protect the public from Monzon". What a quote
Un tipo complicado
Amazing work!
Monzon is one of those cases where you have to separate the artist from his craft. Loved him as a boxer, despised him as a human being.
Very true.
Actually, no one "has to" seperate anything. I remember watching monzon as a child, and I thought he was great. As an adult, I realized that the man was a real piece of crap. Every man is a MAN(good or bad) FIRST, and a boxer or champion 2nd!
Alls fair in love & war but u don't hit woman where I'm from.
@@godsownfool7 That's very well put
@@richardmorris7063 Same here, but I have started thinking about how mental illness and factors like CTE play a part In this behaviour. If you take a person with mental health/personality issues and put them in a sport where they get punched in the head it's not going to end well.
That picture of his wife face down, pool of blood and broken leg is terrible, I couldn't imagine the child growing up knowing what his father did to his mother or her parents. Amazingly talented box however he possessed what few men ever had in the ring, enjoying delivering the pain. thank you for the mini doc, well done.
So far this is the best documentary I have seen for Carlos Monzon. Monzon had his last 80 consecutive professional fights without a loss during a very competitive middleweight period. But his story leaves me sad. Boxing is in my family.
Hats off. This is one of the best documentaries I've seen abt Monzon.
Thanks, Cedric.
Excellent documentary so much about this great fighter I didn’t know
@@RichtheFightHistorian Keep up the great work. New subscriber here.
@@RichtheFightHistorian nice on rich
Rich ,in you're opinion how would Carlos have faired against Marvin Hagler?
One of the best, if not, the best documentaries you have shared Rich. It epitomizes everything in the tragic boxing figure. Sadly this was reality in the form of Monzon and those around him during his life. From the pain of being born into poverty and the punishment he would dish out on not only his opponents, but on the very ones who loved him. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks, oncall21.
@@RichtheFightHistorian He’s was great he was a maniac “
Dude went undefeated in his last 79 fights. Not every boxer can say that.
I saw a new rating on you tube recently where Carlos was #2 all-time greatest fighter behind Floyd & ahead of Ali.Gotta learn more about him as I watched mostly heavy weights when I was young.
@@richardmorris7063 Yeah, as a kid in the 70s, I knew the heavyweights and SRL.
@@richardmorris7063 where can I watch this video you talking about?
@@hot-headedloosewire6878 it popped up on google 3 days ago.It was a pts system based off w-L strength of competition.Marciano was 18,& jack johnson 24 i believe..
He learned in the ring against fully grown men when merely a novice teenager. Don't think you can take his record straight. There is no proper film of him having a competitive fight!
...I too grew up poor seeing my poor father lose his business -he had six kids and I was one of them. I moved out as soon as I could gave my car to my brother and sister. When you grow up like an alley cat it's hard to trust anyone; ready to pounce and win. All this ended when I discovered The Good Lord provides everlasting love and our sins are forgiven and go sin no more. I hope Monzon met his Maker.
I saw the 2 fights against Jean Claude Boutier in Paris, in the early 70s, Boutier was one of the best French boxers since Marcel Cerdan, Carlos fought like a demon in those 2 fights, destroying Boutier's future and hopes of a World tittle... Carlos Monzon was one of the best, pound for pounds, boxer the World has ever seen !
Jean Claude Bouttier was a class fighter, but he was no Monzon. Died a short while ago. Never seemed to suffer any ill effects from his fighting career.
so did you attend the fight at Alain Delon Home , Douchy - right in between Paris and Auxerre
Monzon had a very particular presence about him. There was a malevolent coolness to him and how he operated in the ring. For a tall fighter Monzon was very strong, built like a cigar store Indian. A truly unique figure in boxing history. I had recently read a book written by a French boxing media figure Pierre Cangioni so I was aware of just how bad a history he had with his girlfriends and wives. Thank you for making this documentary.
Thanks, James. I'll have to look up that book.
The one thing that no one mentions is his incredible stamina. I mean he could throw hard punches for 15 rounds with both hands. He must have had an incredible pulse range. His training was just hitting hard bags for an hour. Not stopping and not even be sweating!
@@peterh1353 what is pulse range
@@ricardoricochet3021 How hard you can work without getting in to oxygen debt. You can read as much detail as want on the web...
Ace description of Monson there.
You do an excellent job and should be a documentary film maker. I love the way you tell the whole story both good and bad without any bias so as to see the fighters life as it was.
Thanks, Tim.
He IS a “ documentary filmmaker “ -,wgg he at gave you just watched ? On the most viewed website in the world ?!! 🙄
* what have you ...
🙄 predictive text etc
Citizen Journalism
@@RichtheFightHistorian can you make one on Golovkin please? His story is incredible.
Monzon is a middleweight legend. When you grew up in a violent, poverty stricken area. It's hard just to turn it off when you're not in the ring. The rage and pain never goes away.
He's the real life Mr. Raging Bull!
That's a fact my friend.
@@grandwonder5858 Someone on a boxing forum was trying to say something happened to Monzon while he was in jail. Is this true?
@@Belburg Yeah, something happened to Monzon in jail alright. He lost years of his life due to his own violent tendencies, that's what. I don't think he _'dropped the soap'_ in the common shower area if that is what you were trying to ask in your post.
@@Belburg If you have money you can get a good life in jail in South America.
This is easily the BEST Carlos Monzon doc on TH-cam. Great job!
Wow. Thank you.
@@jaunnada3648 Okay, Juan, so please tell us about the most factual on?
Top 3 Greatest boxers of all boxers of ALL weight classes of All time. IMO Thank you for this post.
@@davehimlin2374 A very good question! Unfortunately, The Hawk was a juicer (PED). To what extent and in how many fights no one knows. His trainer was no stranger to PED's. There is ample proof in the Arquello fight he was juiced. Sad but true. The most important thing in our sport is to make sure VADA testing is the norm.
Excellent Bio on Monzon. He is still a source of pride and also sadness in Argentina. What a great fighter with complicated life.
Jesus I didn't realize Monson did all those horrible things. These documentaries are great thx again. Great fight but terrible past.
I watched all of his fights in the 70's on a small black and white television set. He was my first boxing hero. I also watched Roberto Duran beat Ken Buchanan in a very controversial ending on the same set. These two boxers were my favorites, especially Duran. As I grew older and found out about Monzon's behavior, I lost a lot of respect for him. Great work Rich, love the channel. Looking forward to more of your outstanding work!
Thanks for the support, R E
NEVER FOUGHT HAGLER !?
As I grew older, Hagler became my favorite boxer. I think Hagler could have beaten anyone he faced. I actually felt like he beat Leonard. Like I mentioned, Duran and Hagler are my favorite boxers. Monzon did some horrible things to his wife.
This is an outstanding documentary. Monzon is the personification of the troubled fighter.
Excellent upload.
Edwin Valero was the same
This is a fantastic documentary! I loved watching Carlos Monzon’s fights. He was so tough! He really knew how to use that long reach! Thanks for sharing this. I knew little about him til now. Keep up the excellent work!
Will do, thanks.
real tough on women.
@@paulvon2378 Yes, unfortunately. I Don’t like or ignore that aspect of his history.
Real men don't hit woman.
@@paulvon2378 There is a possibility he had brain damage. He would be violent to everybody and anybody. People who were no threat to him. Kids even.
Another great job Rich. I can see why Monzon is so highly regarded. He had a brutal style and accurate approach. Crazy story!
Thanks, Michael. Yeah, you can really see how accurate he was in the Benvenuti fights.
A story rife with glory, violence and tragedy; beautifully rendered here. I’d never quite understood Munzon; a man as passionately driven as he was emotionally damaged. A life of glittering achievement melded with monstrous destruction of everything and everyone that he loved as well as himself.
Lyke tyson said, "if I had not been a boxer I would be proable dead".
With all his bouts - another case of a boxer showing the results of Drain Bamage.😖😤
to those who feel monzon is overrated you arent looking close enough: what he had wh/ was very special & rarified, was the ability to slow time down in his mind. he did this via very powerful & gifted concentration. watch him in all these clips, notice when hes in the heat of a moment being attacked, his eyes never lose focus or laser concentration. hes always locked in. arguello was like that... second thing your overlooking is his accuracy. wh/ feeds off the first factor I just mentioned. his right cross is always dead eye on the money.... lastly, like arguello, he let his long frame work to his advantage. he got his whole back, thru his long arms into his cross punches fluidity wise. in turn, they landed w/ pop & density. he had heavy hands & placed them w/ devasting accuracy. he would give hagler problems, b/c unlike hearns he could keep focus.
Very perceptive, kelvinkloud, thanks.
Great documentary, the most detailed one on Monzon that exists,
Thanks, lucas.
Thats your best doc yet .Monzon vs Hagler probably would of been one of the best of all time
Thanks, Martin.
Wow what a battle that would be.
@@quadirbrown3800 and you honestly you couldn't call it maybe hagler was more strick fitness wise but Monzon fought like you stole off his mother and was a very good boxer with a brilliant jab I doubt he hit as hard as hagler but hit hard enough truly a 50/50
@@martinmunnelly5475 no way bro. Monzon vs Hagler is a dream match. I can't pick a winner. It's a Draw.
@@TugIronChief watch your mouth. He may have been a shitty person but you are disrespecting maybe the greatest middleweight ever a man who retired as champion. Monzon was no bum at all.
Never been a huge boxing fan but man you can tell a story. And watching these highlight reels of real legends duke it out is unbelievable. Great content! The old HBO and Showtime fights don’t hold a candle to the videos you are producing.
Hey thanks, Ben Dean, I appreciate that.
Wide World of Sports..that was the best sports programming of all time..... Chris Schenkel, " the thrill of victory, the agony of defeat "
He looks like Bruce Lee sometime with dark glasses on
Great video. Here in Argentina he's still considered of the last great boxers this country produced and possibly one of the greatest middleweights of all time. While you can't deny that he was a monster in his personal life looking at his story of domestic abuse against women and assault against everybody who didn't like him, you also can't deny the beast that he was in the ring.
I would rank Monzon as one of the 3 best middleweights of all time, along with Sugar Ray Robinson, and Marvin Hagler. Tall, a great puncher, great boxer, well conditioned and tough. He refused to lose.
@@tidefanyankee2428 But....A cowardly wife beater and murderer. He strangles and beats the mother of his child and throws her off a balcony. Nice guy, should have been EXECUTED!! But yeah, he was an excellent boxer.😳😳😳
Really interesting documentary. It’s a shame he could not get help for his behaviour outside the ring. A brilliant boxer inside it.🥊.x
Monzon is one helluva story isn't he?... what a fantastic video, stands up there with any sports program I've watched from any provider... paid or otherwise. subscribed and watched many of your videos in just a couplea days.. Thank you for your good work Rich.
I appreciate that, Byron, thank you.
Another Masterpiece! Another beautiful but tragic story of another great boxer and legend. Thank you! 🤩🐜
Thanks so much.
What a great insight into Carlos Monzón, Rich you really have a gift, thank you for making this
Glad you enjoyed it!
This man, besides being a technical master of the sweet science also had some kind of X factor few men possess. You will find most notable boxers being actually kind and lovable outside of the ring, Carlos was cut from a different cloth, he was just plain evil, the big question is did life made him like that? Or was it just in his DNA?
Very possible he was made that way since violence was always around him and he was always somewhat involved in it
THE SHOTGUN. A signed copy of Ring Mag from 1977 my granddad gave me is mounted proudly on my wall. Neck and neck with names like Duran and Hagler as an equal while outclassing the likes of Trinidad and BHop.
This guy was SO SO DAMN GOOD I Cant even put it in words. Nobody owned Middleweight like him, just raw fury. He had the looks and talent to be eternal but the anger issues of Edwin Valero which obscured his memory
Great video as usual Rich, although The Shotgun is way above the obscure and little known. You did him justice though. Beautiful fighter. Just beautiful
Man, that is a collector's item. Keep that baby mounted.
@@thegadflygang5381 He was Fully Native American from the Mocovi tribe which is an Indigenous group from Argentina ... why him being mestizo would have more sense as for him being good looking ?... well , unfortunately for you he was 100% Native American.
I am Castizo ( Predominantly white, mixed with a lesser amount of Native american blood from the Andean Region of Argentina , from Salta Province 🇦🇷 ) and you can see from my facial features i am mixed but Monzon is more handsome being 100% Native. Native american doesnt need to be mixed to be good looking people 😒
Monzon was often said to be Good looking because of his Native American features, he has nothing of a mixed man at all, nothing White about him. Plus, Not every Native American tribe looks exactly the same : My Grandma is predominantly Native american from the Andean région, she has strong Native american Andean features and has a bit of spanish blood ( which is where i have my curly hair from ) but her grandpa was FULLY Native american and his wife a " criolla " which is what we call a spanish descent individual born in the Americas, in this case Argentina.
My english is not the best sorry 😐
@@Pablo-ig7tx hey brother, apologies if I offended you it wasnt my intention. Outside of boxing the only thing I ever really studied was forensic anthropology which i never did anything with after school but still enjoy it. I was never one for beaches or resorts, I used training as a means to travel and got to spend time in south America and the middle east.
My only point is there is zero chance Monzon is pure Indio. He has Spanish ad mixture. Not a plus or minus, just a fact as i believe the average height of Indios in South America mountainous regions is like 5'1" or 2". Carlos was almost 6'. You can see it in his face as well, the native super high cheekbones with a more aquiline nose and squared Spanish chin/jaw
As mentioned Im a huge El Inca fan and Edwin also had some Spanish ad mixture. Unless you are in a remote tribe in the mountains or Amazon odds are you have at least a bit of Spanish in you.
Genuinely sorry if it came across in a way that hurt or insulted you. I get it Im super into the ancestry thing personally which is why i took up anthropology as a way to burn four years of college.
Take care
The three best fighters of the 1970's, general consensus, were Duran, Monzon, and Ali.
My ranking would be 1. Monzon I only have him ranked 2 overall at middleweight behind the incomparable sugar ray Robinson. 2. Wilfredo Gomez He drew his first fight knocked out every other opponent in 70s. He regarded at best Bantamweight never losing at that weight. 3 Ali Ali lost too many times for top spot in my rankings. To be on this list. Both Monzon and Gomez didn’t lose a fight in 70s. Ali not only list to Frazier Norton but please explain Leon Spinks. Who simply out worked ali can’t take that away from Leon, he had a lot of heart very tough despite limited skill. He simply outworked you. Respect! Both Gomez and Monzon has just a tough as fights this was a great era for middleweights and bantamweight fighters. Gomez wouldn’t lose until fighting the best fighter in my lifetime Salvatore Sanchez in 1982. Who had a short career but a great career. His last fight was against the great Azumah Nelson giving him his first loss he wouldn’t take another loss loss for over the next decade. As great as Gomez and Nelson were Sanchez was an another level. The last great 15 round boxer. When people talk going into deep waters they refer to rounds 13-15. Miss that today when so many fights were actually decided. My fourth was Duran. He only lost to once to the difficult Esteban De Jesus in subsequent rematches he ko him both times. I don’t value heavy weights as much as the lighter weights here. The divisions were deeper despite it being a golden age of heavy weights you had great fighters of depth across board in 70s heavy’s were just the glamour division. You had Danny lil red lopez st featherweight who minus Sanchez only lost once. He held featherweight title a long time, you had Duran at lightweight Gomez at Batam Duran and Gomez were in no hurry to face Danny lopez he of the punishing power of the lower weights. Took a special fighter like Salvatore Sanchez to beat lil red. As lilnred said after the second encounter might as well retire if I can’t be champion he too good. A lot of fighters said that about Sanchez.
Excellent. So many tragic stories in the fight game.
Thank you so much for your work on these documentaries.. they are simply superb and much appreciated.
So nice of you, Daniel, thanks.
The greatest channel on making boxing Docs. Period!
Thanks, John.
Smashing liitle production Rich.
Enjoyed it cheers
Thank you, Andy.
Great to see footage of a couple of other greats ;
Jose Napoles and Bennie Briscoe . RIP both.
These are perfect! You really fit everything in in a short enough time to keep attention up. Please keep them coming.
Thank you! Will do!
Great documentary of a Middleweight King named Carlos Monzón! His drinking and rage got the best of him. Thanks for the documentary!!
Thanks for watching, Almodovar.
Edwin Valero reminded me so much of Carlos Monzon.
Same uncontrollable anger and both of their wives suffered because of it.
Wow I forgot about Valero. He was like Monzon. RAGE
@@quadirbrown3800 You really have to wonder how much that motorcycle accident contributed to his homicidal anger.
I suppose making a career out of getting his brain bounced around inside of his skull didn't help matters much either.
@@meisteremm I think your right that accident probably had something to do with Valero and he did why he did what he did.
Exactly.
Valero was framed because he was going to leave his country to come to the states seen a docu on him and he was murdered while in jail
This was an amazing documentary. I love learning about fighters like this.
Tbh there ain’t many fighters like this. Monzón is one of a kind.
Great doc! Hard to feel sorry for Monzon though.
Thanks. But yes, Monzon is certainly not a sympathetic figure outside the ring.
It's a good thing, you shouldn't feel sympathy for someone who might kill you
Great doc! Back in the day I couldn't stand him as a fighter. He seemed to cross the line as far a cruelty in the ring. What's puzzling is that just as his life was extremely undisciplined outside the ring, he was extremely disciplined inside the ring. Used his reach better than any boxer I know of.
He lived the life of a true warrior where violence is second nature but what made him dangerous is he was unpredictable.
Mr. Rich. Documentary was outstanding!! I remember growing up and my dad, who was also Argentinian, would play fight with me and tell "come on, you wanna fight me Monzon?" and we'd play fight around the house. Sad to see that he was as bad outside the ring as he was good inside of it. Looking forward to more of your docu's. Thank you.
Sure thing, Alex. Monzon was a complex man.
Like Maradona,he had the hands of god(Disgruntled Brit).
My top 5 Argentine fighters-
1. Carlos Monzon
2. Victor Galindez
3. Nicolino Locche
4.Sergio Martinez
5. Julio Cesar Vazquez .. or Oscar Bonavena or Juan Martin Coggi
thoughts on my list appreciated
Sounds about right...#5 can be interchangeable with Laciar or Maidana...Maybe Ubaldo Sacco but he really didn't really achieve as much as the the fighters you've listed.
Thanks! I also overlooked 60’s flyweight champ pascual Perez. Your videos are great
@@dltguitar6532 Oh yeah, I forgot him too :(
At one time Lucas Matheysse (sorry if I butchered that spelling!) looked like he was on his way to making that top 5 list but after his loss to Danny Garcia, his career went downhill.
Maidana is up there as well. Argentina has produced some great fighters
@@winningbigly6666 Thats true I thought he was going to KO Garcia but he didn't and then kind of faded after that
You are a documentarian of the first rank. I especially savor the extended fight excerpts tastefully set to just the right music.
Thanks so much, Vector.
what a record this guy had almost 80 fights unbeaten just 3 defeats in 99 bouts....great stuff
87-3-9 is super impressive. Those old guys didn't mess around. Nobody fights that many fights anymore.
@@philobeddoe3495 Its impossible to fight 2 to 3 times a week now thats why.. Back in the day these guys were fighting 6 times a month. one ingredient no fighter has today.... BALLS !
@@philobeddoe3495 name fighters today, make too much money for one fight, to go 99 times. big contracts ended fighters being prolific. Archie Moore, Chavez, Duran, they put food on the table for a good deal of their careers. piling up money meant piling up fights.
@@philobeddoe3495
Chavez Sr 89 and 0
@@OldSchoolStrength They could fight once a week starting out and have 52 fights in a single year, haha. That's way too much, right, but they could pad up records pretty quickly at least their first year.
"The best ones come from jail" what jewels!! Thank you Rich..as always an impeccable job..
@@robertprosser5023 thanks Robert..I didn't attribute the quote to Rich though..wonderful analogy regardless..
Thanks, Jose.
Again, this was a quote from his promoter that was in numerous articles. I don't need you going up and down the comment section correcting people.
@@RichtheFightHistorian my pleasure..you're appreciated sir..strong retort to the journalism authority..loved it..
Wow that was better than I expected you went into a lot more detail than the 9-episode Netflix documentary!!! RIP Monzon
What an excellent documentary. Seriously, one of the best boxing documentaries I’ve ever watched. A movie about monzon desperately needs to be made, his life was dark but fascinating.
Thanks, AC.
Tremendous documentary, this is for real the best doc ive seen about Monzon. Great job my friend, keep em coming. What a character Escopeta was, Jesus Christ lol, is almost like he represented the best (that ending and message with his son) and worst (the murder of his wife, the violence) of humans. Complex creatures we are.
Monzon was a product of his environment like Duran, Tyson and so many others in the fight game. And sometimes you can take the boy out of the hood, but it's hard sometimes to take the hood out of the boy. Boxing has always been a sport that has risen underprivileged youths from the turmoil and tumultuousness of their squalid rough and tumble early existence.To the lavish heights of fame and luxuriousness. Some guys can grow from their youthful experience and never forget and move on. But some guys like Monzon and a whole lot of others maintain their street mindset throughout their lives. And usually end up where he did (incarcerated) or deceased at and early age over some nonsense.
Monzon would have been a POS no matter the circumstances he was reared in. He wired different. One can be brought up in luxury and still be a horrible human being. Those folks just have ways to cover up their despicable behavior.
He was a scum bag who could beat people up.
@@chadtep7571 You're totally right I wasn't at all implying that rich people are better or anything, or that growing up in the lap of luxury helps people to be more stable of temperament or more erudite. Because history has shown us that is unadulteratedly contrary to the truth. Our former president(Trump) was a prime example of that, the Menendez brothers were also a prime example of that as were Leopold and Leob and a host of others. I know better than that it's nature as well as nature that makes the man. The point that I was trying to make was that if you are not wired differently as you said that Monzon was. You would look around at your new surroundings and contemplate the arduous indefatigable effort it took you to get there and not want to revisit your squalid past. Like I said before you never forget where you come from, you help your old community to produce more like yourself. However when your old homeboys want you to go left towards danger and mayhem. That may cause your new life to topple before you in a heap of rubble you go in the opposite direction instead. Eric Hernandez is the poster boy for this theorem he had the golden goose in his hands and a prince's future awaiting him and he let the street within him and his demons let it all fly away.
Manny has seen the roughest life this planet can dish out. He is going to be the president of the Phillipines very soon.
@@deebop4904 Do to his popularity status, not so much for his political views. They see him as god in the Philippines.
I've seen a lot of your videos, Rich. They're all very good-to-excellent. This one might be your best. Great job with the editing, especially with the music. I don't know musical terms, but when Monzon and his last opponent finished the last round, both raised their arms, and the music accompanied that perfectly. As for Monzon, what a story. We want boxers to be savages inside the ring and gentlemen outside it. Rarely works that way. A champion boxer must have testosterone levels unlike 99.9999% of the men on earth. Monzon was a pos, but a fascinating guy. Terrific job on your part. Thanks for posting.
Thanks, Christiaan. Like another poster said, sometimes we have to separate the artist's personal life from the craft.
Monson was a legend. Anyone who underestimates him doesn’t know boxing history.
Monzon lol
The most effective champion in history. Didn’t lose his title FIVE times.
Yea mate , especially those ones that know his name
Brilliant documentary on the legendary Carlos monzon no1 middleweight period
I believe that he didn't intend for her to fall and die but it's still unintentional murder. Coming from an Indigenous family I know 1st hand that Indians and alcohol should never mix and I never touch a drop. This is a heart breaking story that sounds like a regular day for many Indigenous people suffering the loss of land, identity and meaning under the multi generational trauma, racism, self hatred, and violent poverty brought to us by colonization. I feel for his story as it hits very close to home for me and my own family, but at the end of the day we're responsible for our own actions and have to decide to do better when we look in the mirror. I know how aggressive and violent I can be. So I put it all into my focus for training and the ring, and I've made damn sure never to put my hands in anger on any woman, child, or any other vulnerable helpless person. I do my best never to even speak in anger unless it's to build a fight or me and my loved ones are being threatened. I don't always succeed but how you speak to people becomes a snowball effect as mutual respect breaks down in your relationships when you stop trying to do better. If you read this Yakoke. Thank you and be the change.
Monzón was a mestizo half indian and half spanish but im curious why Indian blood and drinking alcholol dont mix.
@@darkplayer5535 Many or most lack the enzymes and metabolisms to safely handle alcohol or clear it from our blood. It affects us very differently than Europeans. Our bodies even tend to process sugars very differently, which is why we're so prone to obesity and diabetes with modern western diets and that also strengthens the effects of alcohol in our bodies.
@@aiyahuntacheimumbi236 Dang even for a half spanish like Monzon he still couldnt deal with the side effects alcholol brings...
@@darkplayer5535 Yes but Half Spanish is still Indigenous. Why do you keep stressing that point? Mixed Black people are still considered Black.
@@aiyahuntacheimumbi236 Sorry about that sir..
Great documentary Rich! I remember watching Monzon fight once on Wide World of Sports, but had no idea about his background or what became of him.Gripping story about an athlete with so much potential who let his demons get the best of him.👏🙏🥊
Pretty much. Thanks for watching.
Wooow, Kudos Rich, this is some of your best work yet...seriously, this is some HBO special shit. You out done yourself on this one Bro.🔥🔥🔥
Glad you liked it, Tengui127. Thanks.
It is a good thing he didn't come around in these times. Carlos Monzon vs. Jake LaMotta would have been a classic since both were kindred spirits.
Monzon along with Ken Buchanan was one of my favourite boxers back in the day. I really enjoyed this documentary and have subscribed to your channel now and watched more of your podcasts, right up there with Rummys Corner! Thanks, Rich
Cool, thanks!
funny, I was just thinking to myself, that I bet Duran took a few ques from Monzon in and out of the ring......but I am guessing. And Duran fought like Monzon vs Buchanan, basically ran him into submission and causing Buchanan into faking a low blow to try and win by DQ.
@@blite13 It was a low blow in my opinion
@@stevebrindle1724 It was low and it was caused by the ref grabbing Duran as he threw the punch. It wasn't a hard punch and we have all seen other fighters with harder shots to the groin, still able to fight after a quick pause. He had the minute of the end of the round to get it together, but he continued to fake it so the ref stopped it. All he had to do is tell the ref he was good to go. Buchanan took it as an opportunity to get the decision on a DQ. He thought wrong. There was no way Ken was getting the decision and he knew it.
He’s the goat just because of that Bruce lee haircut yo... great post as always thank you 🙏🏾
haha, yeah, definitely got that 1970s Bruce Lee cut going on.
Looked a lot like "the night stalker" Richard Ramirez.
@@uncletony6210 Yo that's a crazy comparison cause Monzoon was wild outside the ring and they do look alike, but he wasn't quite as crazy as Ramirez. Glad that guy is no longer with us.
His wife got knocked down and didn't get back up. He got knocked down by a car and didn't get back up. Live by the sword and die by the sword. No doubt, one of the greatest Middleweight Champions of all-time.
YES, in Sinhalese Buddhist philosophy we call it Karma, my friend.
^In Buddhism period, and Hinduism as well.
@@mider-spanman5577 really? the entire internet as well. the problem is that nobody seems to know what 'Karma' really is and especially 'internet buddhists' who think it means 'similar revenge'.
Jonathan just pray your misdeeds don't come round full circle
@@brodywhite1753 Of course they will and so will yours and everyone else's on Judgement Day.
A very no hold's barred documentary relaying what an incredible fighter Monzon was. But his ability to control his temper was fragile and apparent for all to see.
The Greatest Middleweight Ever I rate him in the Top Ten All Time Pound For Pound
You're very wise about boxing.
Him and Hagler highly underrated
@@Bouldah Hagler dominated.
I agree he is the greatest but a fight with Hagler is a 50/50. I reckon if they fought a trilogy Monzon would win 2.
Griffith beat him the second fight, but didn't get the decision.
I have been searching for a good Monzon documentary. I appreciate the work and you did a great job💯
Much appreciated!
Alcohol totally changes some people. My mom was an angel when she was sober. She also had guts, she confronted sober the schoolyard bully a 16 yo behemoth (!!!) to protect my brother... But she turned ferocious and at times evil when she drank. When I drank I became a danger for everyone. As a bouncer I always stayed sober. Now it`s 24 years without alc and my life is much better. Maybe all that money that "freed Carlos" from hardships of a born poor guy prevented him from seriously joining AA alcoholics anonymous ...
1970 I was a welterweight boxer then moved up to middleweight boxing 🥊 Carlos monzon was my idle I trained with Spanish fighters they can hit hard 1980 I got into drinking gained weight
Hope you're okay now 💓??
Wow
No you wasn’t
@@Ijustinsultedyou how you know?
@@Ijustinsultedyou 🤣🤣
...I visit Argentina often...Monzon was hardened by his poverty and determined man to escape sheer poverty...very tough guy.
Agreed this is one awesome doco on one of the greatest fighters..well done and thank you👍🏽
Thanks, Trevor.
That was so good, I had to watch it again .! Bless up bro 👊
Thanks, Nick
I watch alot of boxing but never heard of this man until today. He had it all to bad his demons got the best of him. He was in my opinion ahead of his time with that rockstar status style and swag. He had the potential for soo much more to bad his crimes blemished his career.
Carlos Monzon was a ruggedly handsome guy - he looked like an Actor more than a Boxer.
I don't think Monzon was a Psychopath as much as he had serious Rage Issues that triggered his violence.
Probably, as a child, he learned that violence would allow him to have things his way.
Plus, there was always that deep feeling of insecurity, being from a poverty stricken Mestizo background in a deeply race & class dominated Society.
Dude...monzon was a murder what do you talking about???
Coincido totalmente con tu comentario Carl ! ...Saludos Cordiales !
Agree. Not easy for a Mestizo in a very racist society as the argentine.
@@ezequielvega3120 2021 if you don't like mexicans automatically you become racist
@@ezequielvega3120 because some people don't like mexicans doesn't mean they are racist it's a human right have preferences
Monzon reminded me of Michael Spinks in that they were both awkward and wooden in style. At the time they were fighting I thought either could be taken. Both turned out to be great (Michael as a light heavy) champions. Their skill, power and determination in my mind puts them amongst the elites. Thanks for another great doc Rich.
I like your comparison of Monzon to Spinks, both being v awkward & ‘wooden in style’, and YES I have to agree with you. I never really thought of it that way, but, you know, sometimes being awkward & wooden gets the job done. I’ve seen the remaining footage of his fights & researched the views of the most knowledgable in the fight game (trainers as well as boxers) & am confident that he would have beaten Sugar Ray & Marvelous on points...a winner in boxing, a loser in life.
It is a good comparison...Spinks was a lighter on his feet but they both had the same gangly mechanics that disguised that big right cross.
Yes, Spinks was more light on his feet & had faster foot movement. However, Monzon had a better chin, plus he was a supremely mentally tough bastard fighter in the ring & never froze or was scared of anybody.
The thing about Monzon's awkward style is that it kinda puts you to sleep watching his fights, then you look up and the other guy is lying flat on his ass or hanging on a ring rope in loopy land. Best middleweight ever.
Certainly one of your best...thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
Great documentary on Boxer Carlos Monzon. You did a fantastic job on putting this all together with the Carlos Monzon family, His ladies and boxing scenes ! Monzon was quite a character. At 26:56 very cute photo of Carlos Monzon and son. Thanks for the upload.
Much appreciated, thank you.
One of the middleweight division's best! MONZOOON! Wish I could have seen Monzon vs Hagler, Monzon vs Duran, and Monzon vs Robinson. Hearns vs Monzon would have been sweet!
Para mi ? Monzón no le hubiera ganado a esos campeones ?? Lamentable pero lo veo asi ! Y soy de Santa Fe Argentina
@@julio.n3390 Well he sure did beat Emile Griffith and Jose 'mantequilla' Napoles. I think he would have had a fair shot of beating any and all of them. Robinson and Hagler would have given him the most trouble and Hearns there have been a great opponent since they both had those long arms.
I would have wagered Monzon over every middle weight in 70s he second only behind ray Robinson and willy pep as a fighter. He fought best of best in middleweight during his time. Undefeated in his last 79 fights. Going out winning and only fighter not named Marciano not to lose his title in ring. He was amazing as a fighter outside of ring someone you would want to avoid. You know that meme he took that personally, only Carlos did and that’s something you never wanted to see. Carlos Monzon and Salvatore Sanchez were my two favorite boxers of the 70s. Imagine thier ghosts would have interesting stories to tell. 🍷
"In life you will be knocked down many times, the important thing is you get back up". Gr8 words from a father to a son. In the ring this man was a genius. To watch this footage is an honor. Thank you for this documentary. All women want a warrior, however they have no idea the mindset a true warrior has. God Bless 🙏.
Thanks rich,a captivating documentary.He must have spent most of his life enraged.
Thanks, Robert. Yeah, Monzon was a really surly guy by most accounts.
Monzon was a machine. He's not canelo Alvarez out in the 14th round. So too would triple g if they still had 15 round fights. I guess what made him great was that he was genuinely a violent person who not only did it for the money but also did it for nothing
Greatest boxer who ever stepped into a ring.
I agree.
I was nailed to my chair for 27 minutes watching this. Thumbs up again & thanks.
Thanks for watching :)
Argentina's answer to Mike Tyson.
Honestly this guy seems meaner than Mike Tyson, Tyson was a ghetto kid that became the biggest boxer on the planet. At heart he’s a good dude, monzon seems like he was just too fucked up at the core.
Check out Edwin Valero from Venezuela....another one.
Excellent documentary, I've been wanting to learn more about Monzon but have struggled to find anything on here. Good job mate 👍🏻
Glad it was help, Curly. Thanks.
Have seen this guy fight i douht that anyone in middleweight history could have beat this guy,he was a machine who just love it.
Agree - I have Monzon as Number 1, Marvelous Marvin Hagler at 2 and Sugar Ray Robinson at 3. Robinson kept winning & losing the world middleweight title (to guys like Fulmer & Basilio). I seriously can’t envision Monzon ever losing to those guys. Monzon only had to win the world title once & then held it over most of the 1970s. Hagler was the master at cutting down tall middleweight boxers (e.g. Hearns, Obelmejias, Lee, Watts, Monroe, Seales etc) but Monzon would be the exception to that rule. Carlos with his granite chin, immense physical strength, toughness, awkwardness & long range style would not have lost to the Marvelous One. MONZON IS THE ONE TALL MIDDLEWEIGHT THAT MARVIN WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CUT DOWN.
Fantastic job to the production team behind this great video.
Heard the name but never knew his story another great documentary💯👊🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥
Glad you enjoyed it
@@RichtheFightHistorian I enjoy them all my favourite is Jerry Quary a real undersized heavyweight fighting killer's and winning some. Keep up the great work best channel on the TH-cam💯👊🏾🔥🔥🔥
@@adrianwalters2318 Will do. Thanks again, Adrian.
I love this channel. With a voice like that and editing/boxing knowledge like this, I wouldn't be surprised if showtime picked you up
great presentation Rich. I like the way you can separate the boxer from the man outside the ring - a fair representation of the complete human being, well done.
Much appreciated
Your videos are a work of art, dude. Compelling viewing.
Thanks so much.
@@RichtheFightHistorian 👍
I always liked Monzon, but never knew anything about his personal life until now.
Awesome finally a doc on monzon that is in English, thanks
He simply didn't know how to control his demons
Love the music in his second fight against Valdes?? Tough man and one determined fighter!!!
He likes fight womens😆😆😆
Fantastic stuff! The guy was a cold killer in the ring and out. perhaps the greatest middleweight ever... Shame we never Saw a Hagler - Monzon Showdown.
great work
Thanks for watching.
He would have beaten Hagler if both were in their prime.
@@2vintage68 In 1976, Hagler got his ass kicked by Willie Monroe. There is no way in hell he could have successfully challenged Monzon for his title.