Big fish small pond, the 70/30 rule!
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- In todays video, we got a question from a purple belt asking what to do when there or not many upper belts in your gym and your trying to improve your game. He feels like he is a big fish in a small pound and wants to know how to progress. Hopefully this videos helps solve the problem for him and any others who are having this issue. Thanks for watching, please like subscribe, comment, and keep submitting your questions.
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I remember Roger Gracie when he moved to England, he only trained with his students for a long time, beginners, he is recognized for his game, when asked how did he got so good? he attributed it to his training with beginners, it makes a lot of sense, he perfected the basics over and over and over again.
Its the little things
I feel like I've gotten better at the finer details by rolling with the guys that are just able to smash through me. The really new guys I use to test new stuff that I'm really iffy on to see if it's something I'd even want to add to my game
I'm a long time seasoned nogi grappler, and besides rolling with instructors, I work on my rock solid defense, allow them to sink in as deep as they want, then boom, I technically come out, so that way we al improve. Rolling with high level grapplers too often has brought lot of unjuries and joint issues for me.
Its hard on your body going 100% all the time
Seems like right now I’m using the 10/90 rule
It will make a big change in your game.
Haha, love it. Me too. As a white belt a year and a half in I'm definitely playing the 10/90 rule.
Hahahahaha great comment
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This is very similar to my situation. I'm a brown belt and my main gym is full of white and blue belts.. once a week I'll go do a class at another nearby gym that is full of killers - adcc competitors and pro mma fighters, which is where I get smashed! This definitely levels up my game.
Getting the work in how ever you can 💪🏻
Hi Sonny,
I hope your hospital visit wasn't too serious and you are feeling better.
I saw the title of your video on my notifications and was stoked because I knew it was my question :)
I appreciate what you said about the 70/30 rule. This is excellent advice and I'm looking forward to being more conscious of how I choose my partners.
I agree that there is little room for experimentation when I roll with guys at or better than my skill level.
By the way... I got my brown belt earlier this month! I taught a class on using the defense for De La Riva (DLR) to transition to Reverse DLR for a back take. And like you advise in this video I made it a point to do the move to everyone in my class (mostly blue belts) during live rolls after the sequencing and drilling was complete. It's a lot of pressure but that pressure to teach means you have to prove it's not BS what you're communicating to your students.
That's what I love about the main instructor at my gym. The stuff he shows is the stuff he catches us with, so I do my best to follow in his example.
Side note: as far as upper belts leaving the gym - all I'll say is it's gym drama. People get over their issues. Now after things have cooled off I am happy to say quite a few people have found their way back to our school.
Thanks again Sonny.
My pleasure and congratulations on your brown belt!
Congratulations on your brown belt thanks for the question!
Subbed and rang that bell.
Ding dong.
Great advice man. I come from a tiny little gym with a purple belt coach that doesn't really train himself so I'm always having to teach myself. I kind of was already following this concept and not even realizing it. Thank you for putting all this into words and explaining it so beautifully. 🤙
Thank you for the support 🙏🏻
No problem, if you need to see anything techniques or need any advice feel free to submit your questions and we do our best to get to them 👍
@@GracieBradentonjiujitsu Awesome will do!
Man you should have way more than 1.8k subscribers. Thank you!
I found this to be true when I was a purple I mainly rolled with higher belts got smashed most of the time. Now I’m Brown rolling with my students lower belts really helped me dial in my submissions just more opportunities to fine tune it. Thank you very much 🙏🏻
Glad we could help 🙏🏻
New to jiujitsu however wrestled for a long time and coach on the side the transistion to not going to my belly has been a eye opener. So far I like the lunch sessions the best since there are so few people. Usually 2 whites, 1-2 blues, 1 purple , 1-2 blacks no browns yet. Just learning how to flow. t
The higher belts take us lowers to teach us how to flow. In rolling it is about the same for the first few rolls with them varying the resistance working their moves on us then letting us get something and walking us through it. Then us lower belts roll together. In two weeks time it seems I am more relaxed and somehow getting positions on my class mates that are whites easier now in evening class.
Nice video. I saw a video with Rickson where he said he used to improve while training with his students by making things more difficult for himself, like by not using one of his arms or by telling his rolling partner specifically which technique he was aiming to use so they had a better opportunity to defend against it.
Thats a great way to challenge yourself and improve
First class advice. That makes PERFECT sense...
Try it out 👍
Thanks good information and advice
Glad you liked it 👍
I just go home and show my wife and kids what we learnt .. full welly as well
Its your not trying out moves on your kids then what's the point... lol
I noticed this too on my journey so far. Im still a white bell with 2tripes. I a bourndoned most of the moves my coach teach me coz i think they are useless. But they are not working coz i try to do them to higher belts then me. Now that i try to roll with beginners or people my level. I now managed to do a complete moves on them.
There you go, just got to keep working and growing and it will all make sense.
I always heard go with your level mostly and occasionally with higher and lower belts - your explanation made so much sense I subscribed. Big fan of positional sparring....
Thanks bro, hope this advice helps!
@@SonnyParlin totalmente 💯
Very helpful concept, I have been at a stall in my game and I think this might be why.
Hopefully this helps you move to that next level. Good luck 👍
Great advise thank you
👍 anytime
Great advice brother. Rickson also mentions how an advanced belt can also "handicap" himself by rolling no arms, or one arm only....maybe letting opponent start in mount or side control etc. I like your answer as well. Even Joe Rogan makes a comment about how to get better is simply choking more lower belts out over and over. ha ha ha ha. Have a great day man. About to hit up morning jiu jitsu here in Philippines. ( On down low of course )
Have a great training session 💪🏻
Good advice. Hickson would set himself disadvantages so that he can simulate stresses to his on game to get better. For example putting one hand in his belt and fighting with one hand.
Nice advice. Thanks
Glad you liked it 🙏🏻
That was a fantastic answer 👏
Thank you
You are very articulate. Hope your channel grows. Respect from Ohio.
I've been called a lot of things, "articulate" is a new one. 😂😂
Smh sonny 🤦🏾♂️🤣
Excellent advice.
Thank you 🙏🏻
At my gym we do isolation rounds where everyone takes turn to take a round and set a level of resistance they'd like from their partner so they can practice their chosen technique. It sacrifices some live rolling time but it is a great way for even people who are least skilled to practice against different levels of resistance with no pressure to win.
That sounds interesting.
That is called positional sparring in my gym. You choose the position to start from, the level of resistance and reset criteria. Then you have 3 minutes. After that is your partner's turn to choose what and how they want to do. Instructor encourages to pick techniques/positions that you are either bad at or don't get often in normal sparring. It works really well for making your game more even - during normal sparring people tend to go for their favourite techniques.
I really appreciate this message. liked/subbed/little bell
Your the best, helps out alot thank you 🙏🏻
100% truth I try to like mix my guys up so they have exactly that and then I change it so when we go three on three’s we kind of are able to keep one person out and then as they start to get some good movement he’s right there to pull the guys off and then work on some other stuff so they can get some good defense good stuff
Thats great 👍
Thanks for the advise :) suscribed
Thank you 🙏🏻
Welcome back Sonny 👋 ding dong 🛎
Ding dong!
Great video! Thanks. This seems counterintuitive, but pretty much all the good coaches say the same thing :)
There you go, 👍
Thanks for the thoughtful video. I find when I get schooled by higher level BJJ guys at the better gyms, being a mostly Thai guy myself, they almost always give me a an explanatory lesson when asked. I think that's crucial for everyone at various levels in whatever style as we learn. On a lighter note...does anyone ever say you look like a tougher younger brother of Marc Maron??
Its good to go with higher levels to find holes in your game and its good to go with lower levels to master your moves 👍
If i only have the luxury lol but seriously.... since turning blue the purples and browns seek me out as their 70% lol. Great advice i needed to hear. Thanks
Hey coach I just found this channel. Subbed. I love this advice but I’m wondering about the same thing with weight. I’m not a heavy weight but I’m a lean 195lber and most the guys in my gym are 140-165..And a couple 215+. Would you say a similar role applies when I’m struggling to find guys around my weight? I’m trying to be as technical as possible but athleticism is one of my advantages- not pure strength/weight.
Look for the heavier guys that are new. Then you can practice your guard, frames, elevations, etc.
holy crap. this makes so much sense. This just solved a dilemna for me. Thanks for explaining this with real examples.
Glad we can help! 👍
O totally agree. While training with equal peers or better guys is a great tool to make you tougher and better at defense its and absolutely horrible way to train offense especially when you are trying to learn a technique
I am 6 months into my bjj journey and am doing about 15/35 and 50% of my rolls are very competitive right now. At what point should I aspire to be 70/30? Right now? 1 year into the journey? Once I get my blue belt? I feel like right now the competitiveness of the rolls is helping me prepare for competitions but you are the expert so I am all ears
It is difficult to give a timeline because there are a lot of variables such as athleticism, training frequency and intensity, and also the skill levels of the people in your gym. The last one was the biggest variable for me personally. If you are the newest guy at the gym then there will not be very many other people to fill that 70% portion. Once I was about a year in there were a decent number of new people training at my gym and since I had a year of training on them and they were so new, I could begin rolling with people I was very likely to beat. The skill level gap between yourself and new people, and the frequency of new people training at your gym will decide how long that takes but it will happen naturally.
@@FlavorPharaoh Yes sir that is starting to happen. It's weird being on the otherside and not having to fight for my life every roll. This video is going to help me a lot. I don't need to keep arm-barring newer guys...I need to test my newer techniques on them. That will be more fun, too.
Zachary has a great point. The 70/30 rule tbh fits more for upper belts but that does not mean you cant work it into your training. As a white belt your first focus should be learning how to survive. Once you are comfortable in any position where you feel more or less "safe" you can now start working on attacking. And thats where that 70/30 rule really comes to play.
I am a 2nd stripe white belt of like 400 classes (alot were 2 a day open mats due to covid), I will roll with only upper belts if given the opportunity. I like getting smashed and problem solving. Spazzy new white belts just injure me on my fingers or wrist. I guess it is good to measure yourself against new faces but I would rather roll with blue belts who will give me realistic resistance. I am not really at the point of working on my subs, I just want a good guard and defense game because my passing game is good enough to hold people down at blue belt level. I will work on my subs later on. I made the mistake of focusing on them in the beginning but never getting the position. Now I get the position, I wanna practice transitions to other positions.
I don't know if I am doing the right thing but my professor seems to think so. He is pushing me to compete as soon as things open up because we can't move out of province due to COVID without paying an absurd amount of money for re-quarantine. Wish I lived in Texas or Florida.
Thats good as a white belt you want to learn how to survive untill you feel comfortable in any position and you know how to defend most submissions. Then you can start focusing on offense. That way your comfortable attacking know if you mess up you know how to defend so your not holding back on attacks. Also dont compare your level to blue belts. Its a beginner belt. If you cant do it on purple and up it need work. 🙏🏻
@@GracieBradentonjiujitsu Hahaha.. I don't see myself catching any purple belts any time soon.
New subscriber... great advice. Now I'll get to train on my kids and be like 70/30. Lol
Lol
Iron might sharpen iron but it's shaped by a hammer.
I get what your trying to say... but then again i dont lol but that is very true.
I agree but this is hard to do. I haven't been grappling for that long. I start from the feet and by the time I get into a dominant position I'm already worn out. Additionally the guy is so sweaty they can just slip out and its difficult to get something started. Once I try to get a sub my partner defends and I'm too tired to come up with different approaches on the fly.
The 70/30 rule is more for blue belts and up.
No problem I'll just keep getting murdered 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
The longer you're in the game the easier it gets. Keep your eye on the door for those newbies walking in, that's your target. :)
Yep totally. i always roll with less experienced guys
Dont forget to get your 30%
Ding dong love it
Ding dong 👍
Does this rule apply equally to white belts? I'm at a point where I'm able to give blue belts some trouble, im able to play open guard against them and make it difficult to pass, and I'm able to pass their guard, even if it is short lived and they recover fairly quickly. There's really only one other white belt at my gym that is at about the same skill level, and then a bunch of beginners. Should I just be smashing the new guys constantly? I don't want to make them not like jiu jitsu, I want to get them to stick around and become better training partners, how do I do that while also improving my offense
Kinda of, if there are people you can dominate yes but your main responsibility is learning to roll and learning to survive.
Make sense actually , but i feel when i roll with lower levels than me , i absorb them and their skills and mimick them
when i go with higher belt , it's more '' magics'' rolls , but i will try what you say
You have to be in attack mode, if you just flow roll with a lower belt you will not be working your game.
@@GracieBradentonjiujitsu that's my issue , i control , try to control all the time , getting good at it in any position , but im not in attack mode ....i can't switch it yet in my mind
Question:
I'm currently training at a gym with a purple belt coach. He doesn't do drills, competitions, and rarely does seminars. Due to these circumstances promoting is nigh impossible here. We technically do have a black belt affiliate, but we're lucky to see him once a year and he's 3 hours away.
This is my home gym though. I've been training here for almost 7 years first as an mma athlete, then a bjj one. My connections to the gym run deeper than the bjj program.
Due to my growth through cross training and self taught skills, I've had black belts from gyms I crosstrain at offer me promotions. I'm not sure how I feel about that, and I'm unsure if that betrays my loyalty to my home gym.
Do you have any insight on my situation? Should I just wait until the situation eventually changes at my home gym and move up in comp brackets in the meantime? Or is there a way I can accept a promotion with a black belt who has the best evaluation of my skills, and NOT disrespect my home boys?
Insight is appreciated. Thank you profressor.
Coach Dom here. IMO this is a very good question, I’ll see if we can make a video about this. For now my advice is discuss this with your black belt affiliate. You don’t have to make a stink about it but I’ve heard similar situations with people I know and typically what will happen is you can come to an understanding about who can/should promote who and to what rank, and what is or is not appropriate. Communication is key. Be respectful, and don’t come at it from the perspective of demanding a rank you feel you deserve, instead come at it with the goal of having an understanding about how you should progress to higher belts and who is going to do that of your current coach isn’t a high enough rank. Hopefully I can go into more detail on later video. Also to be clear, typically another black belt promoting you would be seen as very disrespectful to your coach tbh.
Great question we definitely will make a video to this as well.
@@ShadeNinja2990 Thank you professor.
I try my best to remain indifferent as far as my promotion is concerned, but when I'm being propositioned by other coaches I'm confused as to how I should react.
I'll take yout advice and message my affiliate. I just need to find the right words.
Not sure but me and this big dude would just smash each other every-time until one day he said let’s go light because he hurt his ribs . So we just flowed thru are roll and tapped if we felt like we would have to muscle out of a position probably the best roll I ever had .
For me I feel like I would have benefit more if u just game me one move for the month. Like give me the same armbar dill for the month then go to the rest off all the planned drills u had next just to get my reps and let me understand the mechanics so I could apply that in different situations .
When I rolled with women I didn’t use strength just worked on my technique.
Its just different levels of resistance and having to work for the sub.
@@GracieBradentonjiujitsu yea me and that big guy didn’t improve besides smashing the hell out of each other. Untill I told the guy how he should attack me then I just lost ever since I thought he would give me some advice on how to beat him to so we could get better together lol 😂 guess not
How would you say that to someone who is a small fish in a big pond? Like one stripe white belt small?
Focus your efforts on not drowning for now.
@@GracieBradentonjiujitsu I appreciate the reply. I'll just keep breathing haha!
70/30 nailed it!
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Is there a 0/100 version of this rule?
Probably won't even be able to implement this until a year or two as blue belt.
Na just look for first day/week white belts
what if you are a medium fish in a small pond and the water has lots of dolphins?
Eat a peanut butter sandwich i guess 🤷
@@GracieBradentonjiujitsu
obviously messing around, thanks for responding. but on a serious note, i am looking to join a gym. is it safe to do BJJ after getting a second vaccine shot? or i guess any idea when getting back to the gym might be safe again?
Not really sure about the vaccine but all we can say is, if you feel healthy then join and start training. If you dont feel healthy then wait until you do 👍
Thanks for commenting. Jokes or not every comment helps us grow 🙏🏻
Am white belt, so this is more like the 5:95 rule lol.
Yea its kind of tough at that stage right now your just focusing on survival.
Can we please rename this channel "Mark Maron breaks down Jiu Jitsu"?
Kidding aside, great info. Thanks!
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Lol
I always felt like I got better when I'm able to smash my partner in training. I don't like going with equal cuz its basically a stalemate the whole time and I like going with ppl better so I can practice defense and stuff
Pretty much sums it up 👍
Cheers dangerous Marc Maron
Cheers 👍
Great advice, and please take some time to recover from your hospital stay you look a little tired.
Thank you, 🙏🏻
Everytime I hear that beep I think my pager is going off
So many people dont even know what a pager is lol
@@GracieBradentonjiujitsu I take call for the hospital on the weekends, for some reason we still use pagers!
Its effective lol
Jesus saves. Love you guys. W
We Love you too 🙏🏻
✍️ go ✍️ to ✍️ the ✍️ kids ✍️ class, alright thanks
Sounds about right 😅
Mmm.. well when u r the worst one at your gym this doesn’t work to well
If you're the worst one at your gym then you have no business working on offense. Your job as the worst at your gym is to take beatings and learn how to defend. Once you've done a good bit of that, you start practicing the 70/30 rule on new people who come through the door.
@@SonnyParlin it’s a joke dude relax
The advice was definitely solid, but that ding dong has to go.
We tried i think its here to stay lol 😅
you focus on what your bad at obviously!?