Very happy to have come across your video! Ive wanted a px4 for years but needed a metal frame, recently learned about the 8000 couhars and am trying to decide between the stoeger and beretta. Thank you for making this
I picked up a Stoeger 9mm quite a few years ago at Academy Sports. Mine came in a plain brown cardboard box. Weeks later a friend got one there and it came in a plastic case. I got some factory Beretta mags. for it off Gunbroker. Mine shoots well and it's rotating barrel action is interesting.
Good information Sr. I just saw a stoger in 40cal in a pawnshop is 400$ dollars and it is in bad shape scratches all over and one magazine what would you say for price to buy 250, 300$? What would you recommend
I’ve owned 2 Beretta Cougar 9m and 40 and had Stoeger Cougar 40 . Needed some cash and sold all of them. Big regret. Both Great pistols and well made. Shooting 40 in those guys feels like a breeze. I guess it has to do with the rotating lock. Thank you for the review
I think your stoeger had a replacement guide rod and central block installed.. They came with a polymer rod and the same bloch without the notch as the Beretta. I've seen older videos of people replacing the upgraded block and steel rod that they purchased through Beretta for the stoeger. which now isn't available.. My stoeger cougar is 18 years old and still has the original polymer rod with no issues..
I think they changed stuff as they went. I did a comparison between beretta and stoeger the central block on all stoegers were the same the beretta was different there was no tail and recoil rods are different. The video is on this channel.
I picked up a Beretta 8000 9mm a little bit ago, after wanting one for many, many years. It was in cherry condition, seemed d*mn near brand new, all original paperwork and packaging . . . but sadly, with California mags (10rd). Is there any source that you know of for mags for those, other than ProMag (they're crap mags)?
@@psp1921tsmg it would appear Gun Parts Corp only had the low cap; and every time I go to a gun show, and ask for mags for that pistol, the people go crosseyed, like they'd never heard of it before. :/ But thanks for the suggestion. I guess I just need to keep looking. I've been reading that you can modify 92F mags to work, I might give that a try.
Hammer spring from the 92 will work hammer from the Px4 will work. 92 mag release works and with some polish work they can be made to run smooth as glass, I love mine .
I use the ammo I have on stock. I don’t make any money doing this so I gotta stay within a budget. However, if you wanna fund the ammunition, I will gladly take it and give you credit.
Great video, thanks! I have a Stoeger 8000 in 9mm and it came with an extra recoil spring. I'm assuming that it's a heavier spring for the hotter NATO ammo. There is nothing in manual that references this. Any idea where to get the metal recoil spring guide? I looked everywhere I could think of.
I have no idea and also take an accountant because of the recoil block the difference between the Stoeger in a Beretta. The recall rods are not the same.
its the same gun my friend, Stoger is beretta, guide rods? really? You can not put a beretta grip on a not beretta gun, my stoger has a beretta grip, end of story
Yeah guide rods as the blocks are different as I show in the video. The rods are a different shape where they fit into the block that rotated the barrel. You didn’t watch the video through did you as I show that. It’s at about 5 mins in
sorry your right i only watched a little bit, all i meant to say is that its the same gun, people always say on videos beretta or stoger as if they wore two different guns@@psp1921tsmg
@@stevenkennedy4130 again true. I have 50-60 pistols. I’m not taking the time nor the money to adjust the sights on the ones that I seldom use other than for demonstration. 50 pistols 250 rifles and a 100 machine guns is way more maintenance than I can keep up with.
Actually the sights can be off. Even the brand new ones. How do I know? I have several pairs of the same pistol with consecutive numbers. Some of them are even special runs. For example Beretta M9's and CZ 75B 30th Anniverrsary editions. In both cases one of each pair's sights were off where as the one was a tack driver. Nothing big and a couple of minutes of work solved the problem. So yes, even one of the two of the same guns that were manufactured maybe minutes apart may have the sights off. And I'm a shooter. If I own a gun I shoot it tegularly.
You showed a revolver and you say old-timers used that how about people who are smart and really care that they’re gone goes bang when you pull the trigger
@@psp1921tsmg I gotta watch more movies but I think the two guns on lethal weapon were Beretta 92 FS and HK P7 I have both and love both thanks for the response thanks for making videos I appreciate you guys taking the time to do them I know they’re not easy
Yes, buy a Italian made beretta. It’ll always be worth more money and I guarantee the build quality is better even though the stokers license by and owned by Beretta
Very happy to have come across your video! Ive wanted a px4 for years but needed a metal frame, recently learned about the 8000 couhars and am trying to decide between the stoeger and beretta. Thank you for making this
I picked up a Stoeger 9mm quite a few years ago at Academy Sports. Mine came in a plain brown cardboard box. Weeks later a friend got one there and it came in a plastic case. I got some factory Beretta mags. for it off Gunbroker. Mine shoots well and it's rotating barrel action is interesting.
I really like the cougars.
Good information Sr. I just saw a stoger in 40cal in a pawnshop is 400$ dollars and it is in bad shape scratches all over and one magazine what would you say for price to buy 250, 300$? What would you recommend
250
Thanks for replying
I’ve owned 2 Beretta Cougar 9m and 40 and had Stoeger Cougar 40 . Needed some cash and sold all of them. Big regret. Both Great pistols and well made. Shooting 40 in those guys feels like a breeze. I guess it has to do with the rotating lock. Thank you for the review
@@user-tr5tt8fc8u they are a completely unjustifiably ignored pistol. I think they shoot great and control recoil very well.
I think your stoeger had a replacement guide rod and central block installed.. They came with a polymer rod and the same bloch without the notch as the Beretta. I've seen older videos of people replacing the upgraded block and steel rod that they purchased through Beretta for the stoeger. which now isn't available.. My stoeger cougar is 18 years old and still has the original polymer rod with no issues..
I think they changed stuff as they went. I did a comparison between beretta and stoeger the central block on all stoegers were the same the beretta was different there was no tail and recoil rods are different. The video is on this channel.
I picked up a Beretta 8000 9mm a little bit ago, after wanting one for many, many years. It was in cherry condition, seemed d*mn near brand new, all original paperwork and packaging . . . but sadly, with California mags (10rd). Is there any source that you know of for mags for those, other than ProMag (they're crap mags)?
Gun parts corp had some. I’ve been finding a few at local gun shows.
@@psp1921tsmg it would appear Gun Parts Corp only had the low cap; and every time I go to a gun show, and ask for mags for that pistol, the people go crosseyed, like they'd never heard of it before. :/
But thanks for the suggestion. I guess I just need to keep looking.
I've been reading that you can modify 92F mags to work, I might give that a try.
@@JustASouthernGuy79 the last two or three I found were in a ammo cam full of Beretta mags, and the guy didn’t even know what they were for
@@psp1921tsmg sadly, my luck isn't that good.
@@JustASouthernGuy79 mine neither I just go to a lot of gun shows
I was hoping magazines would be addressed. Are the Beretta and Stoeger magazines interchangeable?
Yes as long as you stay in the right caliber.
i would like to know where to find the 11rd mags, everywhere i look they are sold or discontinued.
I have a stoger 8040 for about 8 years no problem. Would like to put a light on it. Anybody knows of one ?
I bought my Stoeger 40 new in 2009, I never fired it & came with metal guide rod.
Hammer spring from the 92 will work hammer from the Px4 will work. 92 mag release works and with some polish work they can be made to run smooth as glass, I love mine .
Most of the original parts are available at least for now
I think it would be neat to put the cougar against the PX4 storm just for kicks
I agree but I don’t have a px4 nor does anyone I know
Try using name brand ammo new ammo when you do online comparisons please.
I use the ammo I have on stock. I don’t make any money doing this so I gotta stay within a budget. However, if you wanna fund the ammunition, I will gladly take it and give you credit.
Awesome video
Everyone that I know had always complained about that Walmart Perfecta brand ammo.
Can you recommend a good kydex holster or anything of quality that covers the trigger guard and can get a full grip when drawing for the Cougar?
No sorry. I do not use kydex. I use leather holsters. Hard to find one that is made for the cougar. I wonder if one made for the storm would work?
@psp1921tsmg May I ask what leather one you use? Can you safely carry the cougar with trigger guard covered? Holster I have sucks Lol
@@CentralFloridaHipHop it fits in my old don Hume agent for my sig 229. Covers the barrel and trigger has a one snap strap for retention
@@CentralFloridaHipHop www.donhume.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=65_5
@@psp1921tsmg Sweet Thank you
What can you do to lighten the trigger pull?
No idea. Whomever does beretta 92 trigger jobs can probably do these
Jesse James and doc Holliday got it figured out.😂😂😂😂
Nice comparison.
Great video, thanks! I have a Stoeger 8000 in 9mm and it came with an extra recoil spring. I'm assuming that it's a heavier spring for the hotter NATO ammo. There is nothing in manual that references this. Any idea where to get the metal recoil spring guide? I looked everywhere I could think of.
I have no idea and also take an accountant because of the recoil block the difference between the Stoeger in a Beretta. The recall rods are not the same.
I own a stoeger I paid hardly anything for it about 12 yrs ago new
Ditto except probably 16 years ago. The Cougar is a great gun. Mine is a 9mm.
Same gun I go with the stoeger and save $300
The stoeger is different looking from the actual
9 mm looks different
its the same gun my friend, Stoger is beretta, guide rods? really? You can not put a beretta grip on a not beretta gun, my stoger has a beretta grip, end of story
Yeah guide rods as the blocks are different as I show in the video. The rods are a different shape where they fit into the block that rotated the barrel. You didn’t watch the video through did you as I show that. It’s at about 5 mins in
sorry your right i only watched a little bit, all i meant to say is that its the same gun, people always say on videos beretta or stoger as if they wore two different guns@@psp1921tsmg
Watch out for them cougars especially ones with red hair 😒😉
I’m to old and poor to be cougar meat
*too old
The sights are off. If I got a dollar every time I heard someone say that...
True. But all these guns were used and have different points of impact
@@psp1921tsmg Ever hear that saying? Poor is the craftsmen who blames his tools. Thanks for the share!!
@@stevenkennedy4130 again true. I have 50-60 pistols. I’m not taking the time nor the money to adjust the sights on the ones that I seldom use other than for demonstration. 50 pistols 250 rifles and a 100 machine guns is way more maintenance than I can keep up with.
@@psp1921tsmg Roger that. Your a collector, not a shooter. I'm picking up what your putting down.
Actually the sights can be off. Even the brand new ones. How do I know? I have several pairs of the same pistol with consecutive numbers. Some of them are even special runs. For example Beretta M9's and CZ 75B 30th Anniverrsary editions. In both cases one of each pair's sights were off where as the one was a tack driver. Nothing big and a couple of minutes of work solved the problem. So yes, even one of the two of the same guns that were manufactured maybe minutes apart may have the sights off. And I'm a shooter. If I own a gun I shoot it tegularly.
You showed a revolver and you say old-timers used that how about people who are smart and really care that they’re gone goes bang when you pull the trigger
I showed a revolver because at that time I was doing movie quotes and that is from lethal weapon
@@psp1921tsmg I gotta watch more movies but I think the two guns on lethal weapon were Beretta 92 FS and HK P7 I have both and love both thanks for the response thanks for making videos I appreciate you guys taking the time to do them I know they’re not easy
Yes, buy a Italian made beretta. It’ll always be worth more money and I guarantee the build quality is better even though the stokers license by and owned by Beretta
Berettas just work…… b u y a beretta don’t be cheap you will not be disappointed