Bride Has A LONG List Of Requirements For Her Dream Dress | Say Yes To The Dress
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Bride Devone has a long list of requirements for her dream wedding dress, including that it needs to fit her large bust.
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From Season 6 Episode 14
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Klinefield needs to do better when buying their stock. Expand their plus size selection, offer gowns with bigger cups for those who wear a C cup and above.
Thankfully they do now! This is a pretty old episode, just a reupload. There’s a clip on this channel of a size 30 bride and they treated her with so much care and found her the perfect dress!
I don't understand how designers can say "I won't make the cup size larger." the whole point of ordering a dress in a size other than the sample size is so that it actually fits, why would that not include the cup size? like I don't understand how they can take all your measurements to make the dress to size but say "that doesn't include the boobs"?
@@dietotaku I think it may be because it can sometimes change the style or positioning of certain parts of the dress just because of the cuts. And perhaps if it changes it too much, it doesn't become worth it anymore because the bride won't want it anymore.
And perhaps it's just too costly for the designer because they're starting out so don't have helpers.
Giving a bigger bust can unfortunately change the style of some dresses because of the nature of bigger boobs.
@@dietotaku Ditto for accommodating tall brides.
What else???!!
She needs to have a custom made gown.
I agree that she needs a custom-made her long list of of requirements that is the only solution🎉
With her list of requirements, well, something is going to have to give. "Lots of bling" translates to "lots more expensive," "lots of drama at the bottom" translates to "lots more expensive," and "not more than $4000" translates to "I can't afford a custom gown with as much bling and drama as I want."
no way though for $4K. Maybe a gown for a plus size would fit her bust and could then be taken in at the waist as needed. (?)
@@sarahdee374 Hard to say. She's really not that large overall, she's just got really large breasts. Her underbust, waist and hips look fairly petite--I'd say she's got a figure like Dolly Parton.
Since she wants a gown that is closely fitted to mid-thigh, a plus size gown that fits her bust would be just as difficult to fit her from the underbust down as adjusting a gown that fits her up to he underbust area and then needs to have the cups and neckline adjusted.
Definitely. It's possible to find someone who can make your dress within a budget.
Gok would have put her into something utterly gorgeous; as a matter of fact, she would have had a couple dresses to choose from.
You never hear him say a word about designers being unwilling to open up the cups or make alterations to suit a bride.
Gok is not in the business of selling dresses; he's in the business of dressing brides to make them shine.
I was surprised that nobody suggested that the alterations department could expand the top of that first gown to fit the bride.
I think that some adjustments to dress can only be done when ordering from the designer
I wondered the same-and then thought -with the amount of extra room she needs in the cup(she had to have been more than an E cup) the alterations can only do so much to make the dress fit her breasts.
I wondered if she would of been able to get it in a bigger size, to cover the bust, and then have it taken in
Couldn't be done with the amount of extra room needed and the way the top of that particular dress was cut.
How? It was a beaded top, first of all, they don’t have those beads, second they don’t have the same fabric and third, the dress is copyrighted by the designer so making alterations is not allowed if not done by the designer. Next question.
I know this is an old episode, but there is absolutely NO REASON OR EXCUSE for a designer to not accommodate larger bust sizes! Limiting to a C is ridiculous when probably half of women will have larger breasts than that. Hopefully this has changed drastically since then.
Just to be catty--a designer can't accommodate for something their skillset is unable to design for. It's possible that the designer in question simply does not know how to design outside of the 'standard' sizes. If a curve falls outside your design school's standard French curve and you didn't play with other French curves and then combine those curves with various fabrics to see how they play on the grain of the fabric, you're gonna be pretty limited in your design abilities.
@@GrainneDhub-ll6vw but are they a designer then if 90% of people can't wear it but limiting it to a c cup is a joke at least if it would increase it to a e cup then I would understand
@@kamila3211 There's a market for haute couture houses that will only take orders for their designs up to size 12. Keep in mind that these are gowns, dresses, tops and suits where each one is made by taking the client's measurements, drafting the pattern to their specific measurements, making a mockup, fitting the mockup, either adjusting the mockup or making a second mockup before the second fitting--all this before the actual fabric is cut into. A process way more intensive and custom than prêt-à-porter wedding gowns.
I'm talking about houses that exhibit during their fashion week, whether it be Paris, Milan, Rome, London, New York or wherever. For instance, about 45 years ago, when Ralph Lauren was asked why he didn't make anything over size 12, he said "because I can't make anything look good on a woman who wears anything larger." He meant it as a putdown but I (and many other second wave feminists) saw it as an admission of weakness and ignorance.
Is it ethically right? I happen not to think so but there's no arguing that there are designers that can make a very good living without even making a gesture towards inclusivity by going up to a size 16 or 18.
Not all haute couture houses are so limited nor are all bridal gown designers. If more people of all sizes refused to do business with designers who refuse to be inclusive, that might inspire those designers to improve their skill set.
Poor baby. She needs to get on a plane and go see Jo & Al in England to find her what she wants. I'd love to see a follow up episode to see what dress she ended up finding.
I understand when you have something on your mind, but I always get frustrated when the brides don't let the professionals do their job because of all the limitations.
Exactly, they should have had more freedom to dress her in different looks, she probably would have looked good with something else and then could have added custom details like more jewels
Another potential difficult customer...
i think she needs to go custom. I hope she found a lovely dress for her day ❤
This bride needs to find a professional seamstress and have her dress made to her specifications and measurements. I think that's the only way she's going to get exactly what she wants.
Someone with money open a plus size bridal shop then hire me lol
Girl I use to work in clothing retail. You'll want rethink working in a Bridal shop.
@@ladyjustice1474 it sounds fun lol I can see it being stressful though.
@@ladyjustice1474I feel like Bridal would be a little different since it’s requires having appointments and one on one attention. And at least shoplifting would be less of an issue. You can’t just run off with 20 wedding dresses, and you can keep the smalls away from the customers. Yes, they’d be difficult people but they exist in every industry.
I'm confused what is peachy diamond white?
I'm confused also I've never heard of a peachy diamond gown🎉
Peachy diamond white is code for "I am the most unique bride ever and I'm making shit up to double down on just how spezzial I am! "
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Something in her imagination that doesn't exist.
She needs Aunty GOK!!!!
Maybe a custom dress would be better. She should be happy with her dress.
It’s a shame all designers will not open the cup sizes or close a cup or open seams or whatever it takes for brides
she’s absolutely gorgeous
Have a gown made
If a designer refuses to accommodate something as simple as a bigger bust then they are unprofessional, and stores should refuse to sell their designs, period. Maybe in the 90s you could get away with only catering to unhealthy, skinny model body types but in this modern era? It's unacceptable, embarrassing, and speaks poorly on Kleinfeld's reputation that they're still supporting these people. This bride was NOT too picky, she literally found her dress, it was the very first one she tried on - YOUR store was too unprofessional to provide it for her and you deserved to lose her business.
Maybe a strapless is not for her. There are lots of dresses that have more over the top.
You know you can't tell some people that. She wants to highlight her busom but the style she wants just is not for her.
I bet a halter would work on her. She could show the line but have coverage.
#1 was nice if it fit her properly - didn’t like the Tornai gown…I am not a fan of Tornai at all, I find her designs gaudy and tacky - dress #3 did not suit her at all, her friends are crazy - she needs a custom dress.
Pnina Tournai seems like a lovely woman but I also don't like many of her gowns
@@janetcallanan7020 I went to her website to look at her full collection and every dress I looked at just wasn’t nice looking to me. Some were very simple, some were super elaborate, a couple were sort of pretty, but I just don’t like her style. She may be a lovely person, but her dress designs just aren’t for me.
@@janetcallanan7020Yup and they are expensive too. Most of her gowns are so ugly. She gets greedy when the brides want any of her dresses. I am shocked that she is so in demand as her designs are usually extremely expensive and ugly.
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj yeah I'm older but I'm not a prude the dresses look like honeymoon attire plus with the see through plunging necks etc gives me burlesque vibes which is fine but not for a wedding dress plus many designers with the over encrusted rhinestones won't age any better than the 80s dresses people snicker at
@@janetcallanan7020Exactly and the Pnina gowns look like lingerie. It is ok if that is your taste, but not for a wedding dress. Many have religious ceremonies and those dresses would not be appropriate.
For women like this..........they should make a two part dress so they can get what fits her upper body. Even for small busted women.
Girl, make your own dress. Your expectations were WAY too specific for any designer to create beforehand. Its NOT Kleinsfeld's fault. At All.
The want a dress that NEEDS TO BE ***CUSTOM DESIGNED***** BE PREPARED TO **PAY** FOR THAT !
This!!
Why is it Jo n Al in England can always find beautiful gowns for their beautiful ladies who are average sizes n even fuller figured? Most women are size US 16 or larger.❤
Because it’s a specialized shop specific for plus size brides. Kleinfelds is not.
They make each wedding gown to order anyways, why can’t they accommodate resizing the bust? Ridiculous
That first dress really did have the wow factor but did not fit her.
But it was the nicest.
I think it's stupid when a designer won't make a change like opening the bustline...it's like they don't WANT to make money. And these dresses are made to order so how hard can it be for the designer's staff to sew the dress with a different bustline?
I am surprised that it wasn't suggested that a panel be added to the back of dress #1, with a lace up. Maggie Sotero?! Maybe it was strictly a zipper style? 🤷♀️✌️❤️🦋🙏
Adding more overall circumference to the first gown with a oanel would not have helped at all--the problem was not that the gown would not go around her. The problem was that the bra cups could only contain about 50% of the volume of her breasts.
Think of it this way: two women can both wear a 36 inch band sized bra, but one needs A cups and the other needs GG cups. Even though the band on the 36A bra would fit the 36GG wearer just fine, there is no way on earth that her breasts are going to fit into A cups.
@@GrainneDhub-ll6vw Is that right ? Well l just happen to know a lady that "suffered" with the same exact dilemma. Uh huh. And it was a Maggie Sotero gown. And the lady had just as large of a cup size. Pouring out of the top of the sweetheart neckline. And the resident seamstress cured it. True story. 😉✌️❤️🦋🙏
You'd think they'd have these dresses organized better and allow brides to go look themselves from the beginning
Kleinfeld's has the dress. Devone does not have the budget for that dress.
Awww, I felt bad Davone didn't find her dress 😐😐😐
i said this on another episode, but i can’t believe that some designers just as a rule don’t make different cup sizes or lengthen/shorten dresses. I think that is completely ridiculous
I wish this shop was actually this nice irl
When my daughter was getting married, she went to David's Bridal. They were rude, uninterested, and when she showed up for her appointment, they told her that they had no record of her appointment. We left. She got her gown elsewhere. David's Bridal closed their store not long after.
@@onemercilessming1342 I don’t think any David’s Bridals are open anymore
You don't have enough money.
not for a kleinfelds dress, that's for sure. $4000 could easily get her a custom made gown from a private seamstress, or a bedazzled dress from a smaller salon.
She can get someone to sew her a dress and to her criteria. My sister did this. Me, I bought the dress on the cover of a brides magazine, done 10 minutes. You can tell I am easygoing.
I didn't think she looked good in any of the dresses.Maybe cause none of them fit her right.
Bride is so sweet ❤
The PT gown was perfect for her!
Everyone is treated well❤❤❤
Love y'all you too boys and girls
Too bad Pnina wasn't there to design her one or make a few changes to the one she had on that was gorgeous on her. Don't know why she didn't like it when everyone else did.
I wore my Mom's dress so didn't go through the shopping experience.
Actually, they had her dream dress……just $10K over her budget.
Enough of “This Designer will or won’t do that”! Only contract with designers who will provide dresses within the reasonable parameters of human sizing! Yes, there will always be someone who does not fit and needs a custom gown, but there are millions of women whose dimensions are similar to this bride. Why would you want to give up all of that potential business? I do not get it at all.
That's not realistic.
It’s not that Kleinfelds doesn’t have your dress…… it more that…. You don’t have the budget….. to purchase your “dress”. 🤷🏻♀️
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Sometimes because there are those that have an unlimited budget but still don’t find anything they want.
Nope, the budget is not the problem; we've seen plenty of dresses like she described within her budget; the problem is that most designers won't do above a c cup
@@chrisanthi6021 The few designers that will do the bigger cups are more expensive and with the added requirements much more. Thus, she wasn’t able to get her “dress” due to a low budget .
Klienfields does have the dress…… you just don’t have the budget to match your taste.🤷🏻♀️
*Champagne taste on a beer budget* 🍻🪄
Maybe a maturity gown? Those usually have more room to grow. But, could be taken in
Great show ❤❤❤
All I can say....with my many yeats in retail....she is a candidate to go get her dress custom made. She just needs to be aware.....custom made dresses are expensive.
Definitely not white... Peachy diamond white. WTF is peachy diamond white???
*Did anyone else count how many different ties Randy wore for this video? I counted 3-4, so they must do one fitting & then put in their commentaries over several days* Cuz why does the “morning meeting” always pertain to the bride they feature in the video? 🤔
That first dress was it 💔
So sad they didn t modify Isabelle. Looks gorgeous on her!
Why did they pick a dress WAY over her budget! Sit down friends!
I dont think her list is to long. Formfitting, drama at the botom
I love that too
I felt so sorry for her. Someone should make her an Isabelle dress
Looks like she found her dress in the first one, but couldn't have it because the designer didn't offer the right sizing. It would probably be hard for a lot of people to get past that...
Randy create/ design a dress
I don't understand, if you're that damn picky, why don't you have to custom made dress. Besides, nobody's going to care anyway. Half will be drunk and forget about what the hell you wearing in the next day!
I agree and most honestly can careless what the bride wears.
Out of the weddings I've been to, I remember venues and food (sit down or buffet), not dresses. Unless it was COLOUR! Or mine. I made mine.
How come that Pnina dress was less than $4k
Curvy Brides Boutique
Her demands and her budget did not match. Sorry not sorry.
People this fussy should get something made
To much demand for a 4000. Thousand dollar dress.
Perhaps she needs a gown with some better straps for bosom support; then she can have the shape , lower details, and all the bling she wants added. Why doesn't she consider a custom-made dress with a seamstress? I think she just wanted to be a queen for a day with drama. Boo-hoo. She's not any better than the next bride.
This first dress is toooo small.😅
All the lesbian I know had traditional weddings
Call me old fashion, but a marriage is suppose to be between a man, and women. Does not say in Bible a man for a man, or a women for a women.
You are just homophobic.
It is not the old days anymore. People should be able to marry who they want.
Nobody cares.
I am not like that only with a car house and boyfriend
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I hope they don’t have kids, who would want two moms under the same roof !!! One mom is more than enough!!!
You're so mean. Two moms are better than a mean mom.
@@Largo-ynope, one mom is enough
I think it's utterly tackless when designers only design for skinny women with no curves. I think brides who find gowns by THOSE designers should boycott them if for no other reason than compassion for every woman who dreams about her wedding day and it deprived because of a self-involved egotistical designer.
Designers can design for who they want to. Maybe having to adapt their designs that much is not viable for them and/or isn’t in keeping with their aesthetic.
Yes, they can design how they feel, but designing something like wedding gowns, something every woman eventually needs to or wants to wear and excluding them because it doesn't fit their "aesthetic" is just cruel and heartless. It ends the message that some women just don't belong in the designer's world or they're not worthy. @@camellia8625