The 2023 Mini Cooper S E Is A Charmingly Quick Urban Electric Vehicle
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 มิ.ย. 2024
- With just 114 miles of range, the 2023 #MiniCooperSE is a cute and charismatic electric vehicle for those with short commute that also rarely take road trips. While the #Mini #CooperSE could definitely use more range, its quick acceleration and charming design still make for a desirable EV but we're hoping for the next generation, Mini works on roughly doubling the range of the electric #MiniCooper.
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So many people complaining about the range. Realistically how many people doing road trips all day every day are considering Minis anyway? I mean, 99% of my driving at least is quite a bit less than 100 miles per day so the range has never been an issue for me. When you’re looking at a mid $30k starting price the only other EVs you’re really looking at are the Bolt or Leaf which while yes they have more range they’re both far more bland to drive. Minis work best as city cars and this is no exception. People saying “how is this acceptable for a BMW product in 2023”. If it’s not enough range they’ll happily sell you an I4🤷🏻♂️
You can get a good used Tesla Model 3 for $30,000 now
@@RW-zh7kl which is great. It finally reflects the quality of the car itself. Model 3 interior is far lower quality than things like BMW I4, Hyundai Ioniq 5 or 6. So many good EV options now. It’s about time Tesla realized their cars were hugely overpriced for what you get. Now they’re priced appropriately.
I took delivery of my 2021 Mini Cooper SE in November 2020. 16,000+ miles ZERO-trouble miles later, the car is a dream to drive. It's difficult to NOT smile every time you drive the Mini electric - it is that much fun. Yes, the short range can be a dealbreaker for some, but it's an in-town commuter car for me, and we have a big gas-guzzling Lexus suv for road trips. Re Sofyan's question whether you can unlock the car with Mini's phone app, the answer is yes. You can lock, unlock, climatize, etc., the car from the app.
Most enjoyable EV to drive to date. Not the most comfortable over rough roads, but the vehicle was designed to be tossed around, not for road trip comfort.
We see 100 miles (worst case) with Pacific Northwest winters, 30F - 40F with wet road. Summer time ( with summer OE tires ) we usually see 140-150 miles. The heat pump doesn't care about mild winters... just drive it and enjoy!
Three additional features to mention:
1. You can raise the cargo floor to create a flat cargo area with the seats down - very handy.
2. There is an optional heated steering wheel! The button is on the side of the steering column and very easy to miss.
3. Active Cruise Control is back! I have a Cooper SE ordered and they have confirmed ACC will be included again.
Hopefully they deployed new software, because the camera based ACC didn’t work well.
@@chijen2010 I have had a mixed experience as well. It works perfectly fine 95% of the time, but the other 5% it’s a pain in the butt when it just decides to deactivate itself. Also, what is up with that speed limiter button and how easy it is to accidentally push?
Love my Mini SE. So easy to live with near a large city like I do. Best car I've ever owned. Thanks for the review!
Have you tried the chevy bolt euv. It is so much better
@@Rubo321 It certainly has better battery life and range. My best friend has a Bolt and loves it. But the fit/finish and NICE driver experience in the Mini is very BMW and it shows. As long as I don't have to drive more than 110 miles in a day (and I never do) the Mini is the clear choice for me.
@@Rubo321 Too funny!! I own a 2023 Chevy Corvette Convertible with a $94,000 MSRP and the interior feels cheaper than my Mini Cooper SE in many areas. Turn signal and cheap GM leather are two examples. The Corvettes are the top of the line Chevy too. That Bolt has zero chance.
Morning Sofy! Here for a fresh video this beautiful Monday morning, thank you!
Great review as usual ( I have watched many) I just bought a Mini SE as a placeholder for the dual battery version that will be out next year. I would have to say that 99% of buyers have reconciled the small range before they have bought and its not their only car. I have two other gas powered cars for road trips. But as my wife's daily- she has about a 50 mile round trip and errands? PERFECT. Awesome handling, very comfortable, BMW quality- NO AM radio just FYI and wish it had Blind spot monitoring (EVERY CAR should have this as standard like air bags) and yes 50 miles more range would be perfect. But most who have the car love it- and so far we do too!
Agreed on the blind spot monitoring. Coming from a Volvo with everything it’s been a little bit of an adjustment.
Minis are so under rated...
A lot of 'experts' here saying it has less than the claimed range.
The EPA range is based on some driving tests and some fudge factors.
I own an SE. 8,000 miles so far. So I like to think I have a slightly more accurate idea of various attributes. Like actual range.
Temperature in teens, range 90 miles. Temperature above freezing, it's over 100 miles.
Temps 70+ I get 140-150. Others do better, but probably don't drive quite as fast as me.
Sales flop? Nobody will buy it?
The SE is by far the most popular model in the Mini range. 22% of all Minis sold are SEs.
If you want a used one, be prepared to pay new, or higher price.
No, it won't suit everyone. For some of us, it is ideal, though.
Oh yeah. Mine costs around $0.04/mile in winter, $0.03/mile in summer to charge.
Thanks for the very informative video. 8:35 the horn 😂
So nice to have a library of videos while your away..
projecting the HUD onto the windshield changes your Point of Focus. The flip up HUD alows your Point of Focus to stay ahead of the windshield, on the road. These kind of HUDs are used in jet planes and some helicopter iirc. Long story short, windshield projecting HUDs take your eye off the road more.
I just got one a month ago and it's an excellent second car. I drive 22 miles overall everyday and it is wonderful to drive, plus charging at home is cheaper than getting a gas car with today's gas prices. I'm a big guy and sitting on it makes me feel comfortable. Mine didn't bring ACC because of the chip shortage, but it is offered with that option. I love my Mini!
This is the type of vehicle that you tow behind your Winnebago to buzz around with on your road trips.
Thats an absolute perfect real world use case
Nice review! Thanks! 😊😊👋👋
Love my 22 SE! Perfect daily commuter and quick errand car. Range is never an issue for the use case. Lowered with some other cosmetic mods and it's quite the looker! I was fortunate to get a base Signature trim with heated wheel and rear sensors before part shortages took over, and qualifies for the original 7500 tax credit, so pretty hard to beat 👍🏼
I totally agree with you, I own a 23 model myself, lowered, front and rear strut braces, rear seat deleted, and a rear sway bar.
That's awesome man! You on any of the forums?
@@nberkel hi there! Thinking about getting one of these myself! Can you recommend those springs or cosmetic changes you did? Thanks!
I absolutely love this car!
I drive a Cooper S all winter in Alberta Canada 🤷♂️🤷♂️ yep some days can be rough for sure but with awesome winter tires I’ve never been stuck. And when it comes to filling it up I find it funny seeing everyone else spending hundreds of dollars when I’m in and out at a max of $60 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤔🤔. If you commute 50-100km a day this is perfect with the rebates.
If you can handle the SE's range, you'll love saving money on fuel and never, ever having to visit a gas station again.
love the car, have a 2024 2 door ICE, 100 miles range isn't getting me back and forth to work with many miles to spare. Would love to see mini produce one with a much longer range equiv to the avg EV's that are already out there, but absolutely love the mini. my 3rd one
I hope the people at Mini see your video and it inspires them to make the convertible!
They're making 999 convertible SEs--for Europe.
Love the rims!
Nice little mini Cooper's some little improvements on this vehicles.
Does it come with a Level 2 charger? Nobody has talk abut it yet
Small correction -- Mini cooper has done AWD gas version -- Mini Countryman all4 S (the car we currently own)!
He literally said the Mini Cooper has not had an all-wheel-drive version, not Mini in general. He’s been testing cars for years, including the BMW X1’s and X2’s and always references that they’re related to the mini countryman’s. He knows that they come with all wheel drive.👌💯
What is the range in extreme cold weather?
nice cooper... Sofyan i hope you review the CANOO EV next time. thanks.
Canoo doesn't yet have a consumer model.
Excellent
A Mini Cooper is a gift from the heavens above this brand of car is gonna be my first and my last car ever I LOVE MINI ❤❤❤
Great car for NYC.
HAPPY MONDAY ✌️ HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY
This is actually pretty sick. I would happily buy one lol.
Don't have to worry about the head gasket leaking
The entire car looks great, love the rear end and I like the wheels. Only thing I don't like is the yellow mirrors. That's an odd choice and they should be body colour, IMO. Good for a grocery getter and urban commuter I guess, not much good for anything else. It wouldn't be on my list when shopping for an expensive EV.
The Energetic Yellow mirror caps are optional. MINI doesn't sell yellow replacement caps, so if you buy an SE, order the yellow mirror caps because you can sell them for big bucks and pop on a different color.
In real world driving the range certainly be less than 114 miles.
Throw in cold weather and I bet you would get between 80 and 90 miles on a charge.
My daily commute is exactly 44 miles, it would work but I'd definitely be plugging in every day.
Real world for us is 100 miles in mild winter 30F - 40F with rain and wet roads. Summer, with summer tires we see 140 to 150 miles. We noticed this EV is quite efficient on the highway. Speeds 65 to 75 MPH will continue to deliver respectable figures... surprising considering aerodynamics were an afterthought.
Also has a heat pump with heat scavenging. We noticed rain and wet roads having a larger range impact over winter temperatures. I can't speak for 0F and below though, not here in the Pacific Northwest
@@wzDH106 well said brother, I own one of these in the LA area and I noticed the same range as you, and since I have removed the rear seat I have noticed a slight improvement in range, later I will add some light weight wheels that will shave another 40 pounds, and finally a lithium accessory battery that will shave another 40 pounds, I can’t wait to see how much the range will improve.
Meanwhile, those of us who actually drive one in the real world get significantly more range than those who have never driven one say that it can manage.
Why is that?
@@pictsidhe6471
Again, where are you? Warm climate?
@@RT-mm8rq NC. Temps well below freezing are needed to get less than claimed range.
Alternatively, sticky autocross tyres work well. 😁
My daily commute is 38 miles. I can do two per charge all year without breaking a sweat. In summer, 3 are easy. I could maybe squeeze 4 if I slowed down a bit...
I have a L2 EVSE in my carport. Easy enough to plug up whenever I need to.
arguably mini 4cyl is one of the best sounding, today maybe only the hyundai N does it well too. saying the 4cyl sound bad is blasphemy.
In fact the front seat does go all the way back if you know how. Just pull it back _before_ making teh back upright.
I actually really like this car and the interior on this one. Great short range EV!
Only 100 miles of real world range?
So, you didn't test the range?
I have a 38 mile commute. When it isn't cold, I can easily do three between charges. But I choose to do two and keep the battery between 30 and 80%.
Why have that huuuuge screen if u can't put the speed /rpms in it? Yes electric motors have rpm its like 10k at least, would be cool feature
I am a HUGE Mini fan. I was waiting to buy a car because the word was Mini was going to FIX the SE range problem...
Now I am screwed, because I will not buy a car with a 114 mile range.
I wouldn’t mind if they just took out the back seats and made the back a large trunk. If so I would actually lease this to commute to work/school. It’s not that far and there is EV charging on site for both so the range isn’t that bad for me
The seats fold down. They can also be removed without too much trouble.
Why would you buy this over the Bolt with double the range, actual usable rear seats, and cheaper?
Of course it needs better range, but you can get some really good deals on it. And Sofyan you are always so thorough….this car most definitely comes with adaptive cruise control with stop and go. Unfortunately no Mini’s come with Blindspot monitoring, which is absurd, even though it’s a small car it’s still nice to have.
Learn to drive buddy!
@rogermartinez78 lmao yeah I passed my driving test with 99%, at 15 years old, the driving instructor said I was the best driver she had seen at that age, granted this was in 2001. Obviously you've never driven the Mini's that have blind-spots... nor the BMW X1 or X2 that is built on the same platform. Or perhaps you've never had a car that has blind spot monitoring because once you have it's hard to go back even if you are a great driver...
Review a maserati ghibli modena q4
The Condors are already circling above...
I’d 100% buy if it were awd or even rwd.
Well Minis have never had one RWD, and AWD would probably give you a 60 mile range.
It DOES have fog lights in with the headlights
Improve range and I'll buy
The perfect car for a weekend trip to the beach. Only problem is you'll need to be towed home.
Why? My longest trip so far is 700 miles.
This car is for goung to the lical store and back!
There is trim and wheels that aren’t black ya know? 😊
I can see this as a city car, but in the suburbs I think the range in not sufficient.
Too expensive for not enough range. Just wait until it's cold and you end up with even less range. Looks nice though
At least it’s way more interesting than the bz4x
Mild winter temperatures don't really hurt this vehicle (30F to 40F) and wet roads. The heat pump and heat scavenging helps significantly. I can't speak for sub 0F or below though.... doesn't get that cold here.
Lowest we've seen is 100 miles, with rain and wet roads having the largest impact. Summer time (with OE summer tires) we see 140 to 150 miles.
mini is going down the hill so hard~
8:10 there's no Android auto. wish all these people reviewing the mini would get it right.
these will be so cheap when they announce the 2024 range
Lol with that top speed you gonna get passed by Prius in LA
Dude your details are so wrong. Makes me wonder about the other videos I've seen from you. There is adaptive cruise on the iconic trim. None have lane keep assist (only departure warning). There's no Android auto but the built in nav + app works well. The arm rests are not padded, just spongy plastic (nitpick). There is wireless charging in the armrest on iconic trim, but your phone probably wouldn't fit anyway. I own one of course. Build quality is bad. There are rattles. Unless you're willing to deal with that I would not recommend this car (although it is very fun to drive).
Also, your fob doesn't have a panic button because there's no alarm. Supply chain supposedly.
ACC was an option on '23 signature + when I ordered mine.
It’s tough to imagine this anywhere in the American market except maybe NYC, and even then I just don’t think it’d be worth it. For Europe I’m curious to see how well it sells, but at that price point with such abysmal range (talking less than 90 miles in real world use) I wish mini would have just waited until they could put out an ev with at least some kind of decent range.
About half of the newer Mini 3-doors I've seen in Toronto, ON were EVs, but yeah anywhere outside of the GTA it's a pretty hard sell.
I live in Dallas with a 5 mile commute to downtown and a charger in my garage. This would be fine for me.
For all EV in general.
It sells very well in the UK and Europe. Especially in bigger city. I saw lots of Mini EV when I was in London.
Sorry to burst your bubble but I get between 125 and 150 miles with my Mini Cooper electric.
The range is laughable. I can only imagine the frustration. It takes away from the ethos of the brand. It’s like putting a really strict time limit on fun and zippy.
The vast majority of people just drive around locally, and many already have an ICE if they need longer distance once a year.
I don’t think I would be willing to test the range anxiety of this thing in any kind of traffic with the heat or air-con on. Cars should be manufactured to function beyond running local errands.
@@hualant I kept my R53 as I was worried about being able to do long trips. I have only occasionally blown the cobwebs out.
I've done a 700 mile trip in my SE. Mostly, I use it locally and for commuting, for which it is perfect and a lot of fun.
That EV range is completely unacceptable! I don’t even know why BMW thought this would even be acceptable to release. Total Dealbreaker!
Depends on your use of the car. I’ve got a Cooper SE and since 99.9% of my driving is around town I never even need to DC charge it. Works great as an every day around town car. That said we also have an I4 for road trips. But especially given the price of the SE, the features for the price and the fun it is to drive I think it’s a great deal. 🤷🏻♂️
The battery is also super small. May be faster to charge, even though the range is bad.
Pushing EVs as the future is unacceptable. Gas cars still have way more range than these and most others. Why would I purchase these?! Lol
Plenty of range for running around the city. Sure, if you live in the country in Oklahoma it wouldn’t work. 😂
On paper, the range seems terrible, but in real life it has been totally fine for 99% of errands and daily driving, to the point where I’m not having the range anxiety I thought I’d have. That said, I don’t know that I would have this car as our only household vehicle since we do road trips from time to time. We have a plug in hybrid Volvo XC90 for long trips and the two vehicles are a great combination.
so like 80-85 miles of real world range lol.
You know nothing, Jon Snow. Just like MINI lists 6.9 seconds to 60 mph instead of the tested 6,05 seconds, they underrate the range. Some owners drive more than 180 miles on a charge in the summer and even on cold winter days I can drive 100 miles.
No Android Auto
I have the long range battery in my model 3 and I still find that to be too small on road trips.... It doesn't take much to drain batteries.... Better not do more than 75mph on the hwy with this thing, how unfortunate to anybody duped into spending hard earned money on this sad thing
200 miles would be acceptable but 114 is ridiculous. This car is going to depreciate like a sinking ship
My local dealer can't keep them on the lot. Six month wait if ordering a new one.
Really? When I ordered mine, year old ones were the same price. I've seen used ones sell above new price.
The mini used to be so cool 😔
Drive this one. They still are.
I don't think it has android auto. You may want to double check.
It doesn't
Looks like the car have a painted mustache lol
approximately, 114 is too low, even for just urban driving/recharging. They could've easily extended the dimensions to design more battery capacity, without taking away the charm of the mini. I am surprised they put this into production with this kind of range
How could you do a review on an electric car and not go over the specs on charging? What was your experience on how long to charge both at home and at public chargers? This review is a fail!
I can look past all the cons except the max speed at 92 mph. It can't even hit 100? that's whack.
34K?! for 100 miles and a tiny vehicle?? What is going on? Who is purchasing this?
People in cities with a 2nd vehicle for road trips
Me. Live near big city and never road-trip. They include a level 2 charger which is installed in my garage plus mine qualifies for the federal tax credit so it's like 7500 cheaper. It's perfect and a blast to drive. Drive one before your judge. Best car I've ever owned.
Rather go with a used Model 3
@@tkusterb You could just buy an electric boke for your use case if thats all you're doing with it.
@@jensendkmg7209 Good Lord, no. I live in Colorado.
Those unpainted wheel arches. Those seams look like the perfect tight spot for water to infiltrate, sit and rust to develope
Always wanted a Mini but such low reliability and then you're paying BMW repair prices.
Minis are the 3rd most reliable cars you can buy. The SE appears to be one of their more reliable models.
114 miles ?!… it’s a joke ??..
It’s a meme car. Also slow as balls.
People here in UK are getting 160 miles driving in Emode
6.9 sec 0-60 might not be as fast as a Tesla but to call it slow is very silly
It’s meant for Europe
@@pachy444 It’s definitely slow. Especially for an electric car.
"With just 114 mi of range the Mini Cooper is a cute and charasmatic car if you're grandma and grandpa just going to the grocery store 5 mins away"
So here you go grandpa, here's your new cool car.
only 110 miles range .....
No AA by the way.
I appreciate the info, but he's annoyingly redundant: disliking the head-up display, unavailability of a convertible version, short range, etc.
The first Nissan Leafs and Renault Zoes had about the same range as this car. This car is an expensive exercise in design over function.
Basically a petrol platform, that's why the battery is far to small and the poor range.....
Range: *114 mi*
Just ..
$34K 114mi range, 2 door, no tax credit lol,, bmw will tell you a joke before they tell you a lie lol😂😂
If the first question you have about an EV is whether it has a frunk, you should probably just get a Tesla.
Tf is that range tho
Wow 110 miles is terrible. I always thought smaller vehicles were the better use-case for EV at this time because of their weight efficiency? Im honestly interested in getting into EV but for those of us who can only own 1 vehicle theres too many hoops to jump through at this time. Thisll stay a rich persons fun toy, their 3rd maybe even 4th vehicle to putz around in. Sales will remain low on this one.
..114. Omg no
Got to give props to BMW for re-popularizing the Mini 20 years ago, but too bad they let the brand languish since then and instead put all their effort towards SUVs.
I hope the EV is not a nightmare like the gas lol
Their gas vehicles are trash , one issue after another and the transmission ohh lord haha
If only it had a 500 Mile range at least. Biggest issue with electric cars
Even my hybrid car didn't have 500 mile range!
how many ICE vehicles have 500 mile range lmao
@@jensendkmg7209 pretty much only hybrids
@JensenDKMG only about 3 and they're expensive
You don't need that much range!!
Just buy the Chevy Bolt EV
All the problems are because it's not designed has a electric car, just a convenient petrol platform which is no good, the small battery and very bad range, another half-baked BMW....
ALL EV’s should have regenerative braking paddle shifters, a toggle shift on the dash is just stupid!!!
The range is a joke
terrible range. i can go almost three times further on my gas 2020 mini cooper s.
it's gingham, your lgbt card might get revoked
omg that yellow...... puke
Wow, 114 miles range...useless!
Doesn't fun count anymore? There is no more fun-to-drive EV.
As a very happy SE owner, I'm going to disagree.
The range figure mini gives is very pessimistic. 114 miles in nasty weather. 150 in summer.
Utterly useless car. I wouldn't pay above 15k for a brand new one of these
If it's useless, why would you pay that much? This car bounds about roundabouts, quietly acting out.
@@eminiman4393 I would use it for what it is, a compliance vehicle to run short errands around town within its limits.
I have a 4 door mini. Its definitely nice for getting around town, but it was also like 15 grand cheaper than this, has 4 doors, and like 350 miles of range.
This aint it. Not at that price point with that kind of range.
So, comparing used car prices to new car prices?
In the showroom, the 4 doors cost more than an SE.
@@pictsidhe6471 Partially, but its still about 10 grand cheaper even new. It would take years and years to make up the difference in price. ITs cheaper, its about as fast, its bigger and it's easier to take on road trips. And it gets like 30 mpg in the city so it's not exactly a massive polluter like some cars can be.
@@jensendkmg7209
Base F55 $29,700
Base F56SE 29,900
The F55 is indeed cheaper, but not $10k
I save about $2k a year compared to my R53, which manages about 35mpg when I'm not driving it like I stole it.
Are you kidding me MINI? 114 miles? Garbage!