'Umber Brown' it's called. One of my favorite loco liveries, I think it suits these quite well, but it looks stunning on their H2s, one of which is being replicated at Bluebell!
Ah yes that's right! Yeah it's very odd, but a lovely livery nonetheless! I don't think I've seen an H2, but I'll definitely google it! All the best, Sam :)
It's one of my favorites, brown is underused on locomotives! The Atlantic in the artwork is an H2 I believe. The one at Bluebell is being built using a C1 boiler and is mostly complete.
Great video Sam. By the way two things I want to tell you. 1. Thomas is based off of the 2nd version of the E2 with some modifications (EG- wheel arches) 2. The E2 was only chosen because it had an image on stand-by when original illustrator Reginald panne had to draw the locomotive. The original Thomas prototype was a J50.
Another good one Sam. Loved seeing an older model reviewed. 1979 will be the correct date of manufacture as it came out that year. I think it lasted to 81 then in 82 it came out in Southern Olive Green. It was only like that for a few years before the tooling was altered to become Thomas in about 84/85. I think the late 70s early 80s were Hornby at it's best. The chassis was developed specially to get the motor forward and allow cab detail. Around the same time Hornby brought out their Jinty (1978) , open cab pannier (1980) and J52 (1981) . By that time Hornby were in competition with Mainline and Airfix which were bringing out better detailed models.
+Russell Benton Thanks very much for the comment and the info mate - you're probably right too with saying 70s/80s were Hornby's best years - although I was never a fan of the tender driven stuff! I'd love to try and get one of the green E2s as well! Cheers mate, Sam :)
Hornby also made them in the black Southern 103 livery, and BR black with the lion on the side of the tank, but these don't look as good in black after you've seen them in brown or green. That also makes sense as the real ones looked worse in the all black, as if BR didn't care what they looked like and just wanted to throw paint on and get them back out.
A lot of its pulling power issues likely stem not from the lack of weight, but the fact that she's only four wheel drive. Not sure if you even noticed it at the time, but the center drivers are undersized significantly. Now, I'm sure this was done for tight curve performance, but that's gonna nip its pulling power hard.
Hi mate, yes that is true - in fact all of the Tri-ang and early Hornby engines were like this - except this model (and others from the same era) had very shiny metal tyres, which never gripped the track as well as the older cast metal wheels did - and so you don't get too much traction with any of these (the Halls, 2MTs, N15 and Scotsman models from the same era were all the same too!) Cheers, Sam :)
Yeah, I’m actually using the design you’ve got to make a diesel-electric E2 class tank engine. There is a miniature railway called the Saltburn Miniature Railway. They have diesel powered A3 and A4 Pacifics.
Got mine for £11 off a friend he wanted to scrap it as it did not run and did not fit in with his stock but i got it before he took it to bits and brought her back to life new motor new rods a clean and off she went all im mising is a smokebox door but i have found an old dapol kit not shure what it is but it fits.
I recently bought one of these good boys at hattons, I actually live near Hattons, so basically where all the stuff that you buy is From, he had to be serviced and was missings part of his buffer beam, but it’s practically perfect
Lovely review as usual sam :) im still after one of these locos, alot of things to work on,oh and the cylinder thing on the end of the tank is what's known as a westing house break pump, it was quite a widely used piece of equipment of the era :)
+Colm Connolly- Taylor Thanks very much, really glad you liked it! These are great locos, even if they can't pull an awful lot! Thanks a lot for the info too, always very much appreciated! Cheers, Sam :)
+Sam'sTrains ah its just the body im after really, then after ive added some wight it will be partnered with a Bachmann pannier tank chassis and no worries mate, happy to help :)
Moving the whistle was an actual modification I think BR had to do for tunnel clearance at some point. The engineers liked it too, since it was really loud inside the cab when it was on the cab, and putting it next to the safety valve improved that a lot.
I have this locomotive!! This video actually inspired me to purchase one of these, have zero regrets 🤎💛 I may be American, but the Brits did far better with trains. Still do, to this day. I have this one, and Princess Alice, the Coronation Class with the streamlined body in the blue and white livery
Hi Sam i was wondering if you could do a servicing video on the E2 because i took a look at your Thomas servicing and the older models are a little more complex so I thought i would ask.
Hi mate, check out my tri-ang steam servicing videos - those run on the same motor, and should tell you everything you need to know! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
if only they came out with more versions of the e2s from 100 to 109 then we could have did a series of the other e2 locos besides thomas... just a random idea
Ugandan Kunckles Hornby makes many of their products in OO scale, while Bachmann makes many of their products in HO scale. However, the differences between those two scales are minuscule, although the proportions of the two brands are different.
There was actually one thing I really appreciated about the animated version. They made it so you could see the piston and valve linkages when you saw the engines from in front or behind or beneath. I'm american, and the concept of inside pistons was completely unknown to me until I went down the research rabbit hole of how British engines worked without having visible cylinders. It's a neat and elegant layout, but pretty much all American engines have the cylinders on the outside. Apparently we had a few three cylinder engines (2 outside and one in the center), but space and power output were not really as big of a concern as having enough drive wheels was, so there were more gigantic engines out here with 8, 10, 12, or 16 drive wheels.
Sam fun fact: the E2s never wore the brown livery in the early LBSCR days it's thanks to HORNBY that mislead a lot of people to believe the brown is what the E2s wore 2nd. 110 is going to mess up the railway books due to their already being a 110 e1 is the isle of whight (sorry for my vocabulary I forgot how to spell the island) and I keep checking the website for the E2 rebuild and there hasn't been a update since the project began and I think someone confrimed the project was cancelled a couple years ago I have to check later on but the person running the site made a train simulator model for the E2 you need to check the model out he also made the 1st railway series E2 Thomas it looks very good so check it out This is your fan Steam Ranger2017 sighing out
Yeah it did look like it! I don't think so though - that's probably just the way they were lined up in the yard - there's no access to any tender, since the cab is completely enclosed! All the best, Sam :)
A good review Sam. Your white background shot clearly shows the smaller diameter centre wheel that doesn't touch the rail. Tri-ang and Hornby did that on all their six coupled locos to put the maximum weight onto four wheels to gain as much traction as possible. I got mine from Ebay as well and it's one of my favourites. Cheers, David.
+David Atkins Thanks very much for the comment - It is very noticeable actually yeah, especially with this one! I think ebay is definitely the best place for them, I very rarely have any trouble! :) Cheers, Sam :)
I wonder if someone should try a do new tooling for the E2. The old model is ok, but it's really showing it's age. If someone like Rapido, Accurascale, Sonic Models or even Hornby or Bachmann had a stab at it, we'd probably get a great model. Imagine how good it would look in Marsh Umber.
I've one in a glossy finish, it looks really nice except for the fingerprints that I put on it, every time i touch it..... Thomas thencially built in the first batch but to the design of the second, or atleast according to the lore.
Ah, this is just what I wanted to see, an original, non-Thomas, E2 Class 0-6-0T! Even the actual engine he was based on is rather impressive. Nice model and video!
Also have you ever heard of the LBSC Thomas in the green #70? That was to represent the 70th anniversary of Thomas & Friends and it was in the 2015 special called The Adventure Begins. I've watched it and it was amazing from the classic Season 1 era in 1984 and the railway series. :P
I just bought one of these, and I'm really excited for it to arrive. My interest in trains started between the Disneyland railroad that I rode on many times, and Thomas, and it's so cool to see a model of the same type as Thomas, but with much more detail because of being modeled from a real engine. 7:04 is actually part of the braking system. The E2 had a really powerful air brake system, which was actually one of the complaints about that type. The brakes were strong enough to stop the engine so fast that it would break couplings if the driver was too aggressive with it. I personally think that's a reason to complain about the antiquated couplings (unchanged from 1913 to the 1960s, really British Railways???), not a reason to complain about the brakes, but that's just me. 10:12 ironic, as the real E2 was a very strong engine. I think it had over 21,000 lbs of pulling power. It just burned through coal and water really fast. Edit: my loco showed up, and I have a couple of interesting details: 3:33 that number isn't the year. I can tell because the instructions with my loco have 0679 there, rather than 1979, and I doubt Hornby was making this model 1,345 years ago. :-) It might the be engine serial number though. 🤷🏻♂️ 10:12 This loco has an interesting feature in the form of magnetic driving wheels. It's interesting because if I lift it off of track that isn't fastened down, the loco will try and take the track off the ground with it! It's mentioned in the instructions as a way to make up for the loco being so light, but it only works if you use steel track, rather than brass or nickel silver.
If you add a drop of oil to the fabric pads at either end of the motor armature of the x.03 and x.04 motors it can make them run much quieter. I have found the pannier tank can be made to run almost silently. It does depend from loco to loco however as the body basically becomes a sound box like a guitar.
Fun fact: if you look up Hornby's prototype Thomas model for their magazine teaser (with the very first illustration-style face) you will see the cobbled-together extended tanks and the interesting chimney shape of this model. This was corrected for *most* commercial models, there are a *very* slim number of the very *very* first models with this chimney shape, but most were remolded at a later date
+mairuz1 Thanks mate, It's actually made up of a couple of locos - I took the best from both to make it as good as possible! Glad you enjoyed it anyway, Cheers, Sam :)
Hi Sam, I respect your opinion about the E2's, but they were heavy going on water, underpowered and rubbish at pulling passenger trains above walking pace. The cab was absoloutely tiny, which made working with one of theese a pain. They were a complete failure.
haha that's fair enough Tom - I know nothing about them in real life - only that they were quite nice looking! I suppose there's a reason why none were preserved ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains there are a couple of videos detailing their history, and all of their shortcomings and the things they did really well. They were actually not weak engines at all, having quite a bit more tractive power than other engines their size, but they burned through coal and water really fast. A lot of people say they have small cold bunkers, but they actually had the same size coal bunkers as several larger engines did, and those larger engines did not have it a problem with that small coal capacity. The E2 just burned through it faster. Ultimately, it's a pretty nice type of "failure" to have them in service for 46 to 50 years. I think he shortest lived one was LBSC 107 / SR 2107 / BR 32107, which was built in 1915, and the first to be retired in 1961.
Awesome! I bet there's not many that kept trains in good condition even at 2 years old - very well done! Always worth holding onto these things! All the best, Sam :)
The second series E2 is most likely Thomas's E2 as Thomas has the extended side tanks and the second series E2 had the extended side tanks as well, the first series E2s did not have the extended side tanks. As the LB&SCR E2 Class Wiki says the second series design was judged to be a success with the issue of inadequate supply of water, that lead to a further order of 5 E2s being given extended side tanks something Thomas has, Thomas also has wheel wells and the real E2s did not have wheel wells.
@@beckyjohnson6798 one of the complaints about the real E2 engines was that they were very rough riding at speed, and that was potentially due to an imbalance between wheel size and cylinder size. There's a theory that Thomas was modified to have larger wheels to make him run smoother, hence the wheel arches.
very good review and I love the loco where did you get it from because I think I would like one. I have just bought the new Hornby terriers and they are brilliant you should maybe consider getting one of them because they are only £35.00 and they are a quality loco. I have both liveries that are available and the detailing on them is brilliant thanks kirk
+kirk jones Thanks a lot for the comment - I managed to find mine on ebay! And yeah, I've seen a few of those terriers, they do look really good! :D Cheers, Sam :)
I would love one of these. I often find parts for it on eBay, but fully intact hornby e2’s only show up once in a great while (at least on the American eBay).
Did the lbsc literally crazy any thing before the E2 to class tank engines cuz I think there was any e1 because there has to be some e1s was probably came out before or they reach the the number 100 so Emeril scrapped before the E2 class came in lbsc
Just catching up on this review; you didn't mention perhaps it most important feature, it has proper wheel bearings. I think it was Hornby's first to do so and for 1979 was quite something.
haha yeah - they haven't sold these for years - you just have to keep an eye out on Ebay, or train fairs - they do turn up from time to time! There are loads going on Ebay at the moment! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
LBSCR E2 no.105 is most likely Thomas's real world number, as the E2 class went from 100 to 109. 105 was built in the same year as Thomas, both in 1915.
You mentioned that due to the wheel set being driven from the back, it can jam if loco is left unused for long periods of time. How would you fix a loco if it does jam?
Usually just jostling the wheelset can free it up - but it can be difficult to fix - make sure the rods are fitted the right way, and try to check the quartering if you can! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I have one of these. I was told they are rare, I don't know whether that's true or not, although I have never seen another one. It's the most reliable model I've ever had. Also one of the noisiest! Unfortunately the smoke box door is missing on mine.
+trainman665 Thanks a lot for yourr comment, these aren't particularly rare, as they turn up on eBay quite often, but as you say, they're definitely reliable models! I've already had a comment about missing smoke-box doors, so that must be a common issue with them! Cheers, Sam :)
+Sam'sTrains Didn't think so. They must be hiding from me! I plan to get a new door for it if I can find one. Excellent channel by the way, I only discovered it recently so I'm going through loads of previous videos. Loads of good stuff!
Something weird happened in the middle of the running session. I think it happened near Gordon's Hill. The Pannier Tank Engine magically disappeared momentarily, to be replaced by that Dancer wagon thing-a-mi-jig. Add Bullman again on the rear of the PT's goods train. Can you prevent this double weirdo whammy happening again, somehow? It's weirding me out slightly.
There is a bit of weird magic on my railway - I don't know what it is! Occasionally there are glitches like that, but I never notice them until I watch the footage back! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I have a suggestion: Maybe make a full railway war movie like trains in the blitz, maybe include some of the non-war engines, and they can do work, make dramatic sequences and scenes where they find out some of the engines were destroyed along with their crew by an attack/accident on the railway or in the war. All that stuff, add diesels, ETC.
Hi! Great idea, thanks a lot for that one - I'd love to make some more short films! I've just finished my Christmas one, which is for kids! :D It'll be out in a couple of weeks! Cheers, Sam :)
Actually, the prototype livery on the model is kind of accurate… Around the era when the E2’s were built, the LBSC’s main livery was an umber brown with gold lining, most associated with their passenger engines. A couple E2’s were trialed for push-pull passenger service (an experiment which wasn’t that successful) and were given the umber brown livery but this was in 1914, the year before the second batch of E2’s with the extended side tanks were built
@@SCB-SCCS No.108 can't be Thomas. Thomas arrived on Sodor in 1915 and No.108 was built in 1916. He most likely would've been No.105 also built in 1915 and was the first member of the E2s with the extended side tanks, so he would've been sent to Sodor shortly after being built. Since the LBSC quietly sold Thomas off, most likely a duplicate No.105 would've been built to replace Thomas' slot on the mainland. Either that or he was an unofficial prototype built that same year before No.105 was built and was sold to Sodor before No.105's construction
from the story "Thomas and Gordon" in Thomas the Tank Engine. Thomas arrived on Sodor shortly after he was built in 1915, when The Fat Controller bought the locomotive for a nominal sum to be a pilot engine at Vicarstown.
Hello Sam, Smashing review of your Hornby E2 Tank Engine, I have one too and she runs very well. Have you ever watched Thomas the Tank Engine since you were a lad? I still watch it. How about you buy a Hornby R9287 Thomas along with his coaches, Annie & Clarabel and review them somewhere this year. Again well done for the Hornby E2 review.
+Jordan Shingler Thank you very much for the kind words, I don't watch Thomas, but I can definitely understand the appeal! I may look into that suggestion, if others request it, so I'll let you know! Thanks a lot for watching, Cheers, Sam :)
Hey Sam'sTrains, I have a cool suggestion, have you tried painting your locomotives? ☺ You should make a video about how to paint a locomotive. ☺ P.S. You could try to put a number on your locomotives. ☺
Hey Sam'sTrains, I also have another suggestion, have you tried turning a locomotive into a push along toy? ☺ You should make a video about how to make a locomotive into a push along toy. ☺
Hey Sam'sTrains, 1 final suggestion, have you ever put a face in your locomotives? ☺ You should make a video about how to make a face for your locomotive. ☺
Awesome review you did an amazing job reviewing this lovely E2 model I just got but sadly it doesn't work so me and my dad will hopefully bring it in to have it looked at also when you were little did you watch Thomas the tank engine and friends. :D
+Nicks Adventures (Nick's Adventure) Thank you very much for the kind comment, glad you liked it - and best of luck with getting yours fixed! And strangely no, I was never really into Thomas for some reason! Cheers, Sam :)
£11.98 in 70's would be about £120 now - in such good condition, £20 for an 8/10 engine seems fantastic value! (especially when chimney is included! Good review.
+itloon Thanks a lot for your comment - these are definitely worth more than £20 in my opinion, they are great locos! And haha yeah, the chimney is a bonus that I do enjoy! Cheers, Sam :)
Hey Sam do u have a rf-16 locomotive? And if so what is your rating I got one for my birthday and haven't gotten to test it out yet mine is from bachmann
Sam'sTrains well as far as I can tell the one I got has nice detail tons of riveting a good weight to it and I got mine for $50 usd on amazon cuz sales Haven't gotten to test it yet though my layout isn't put together I need to dig it out of my basement
hi Sam I am in the lake district and I was wondering if you could tell me please whereabouts is Keswick's model shop for Hornby is. I cannot seem to find it. Cheers H
'Umber Brown' it's called. One of my favorite loco liveries, I think it suits these quite well, but it looks stunning on their H2s, one of which is being replicated at Bluebell!
Ah yes that's right! Yeah it's very odd, but a lovely livery nonetheless! I don't think I've seen an H2, but I'll definitely google it!
All the best,
Sam :)
It's one of my favorites, brown is underused on locomotives!
The Atlantic in the artwork is an H2 I believe. The one at Bluebell is being built using a C1 boiler and is mostly complete.
One of my favourites.
Great video Sam. By the way two things I want to tell you.
1. Thomas is based off of the 2nd version of the E2 with some modifications (EG- wheel arches)
2. The E2 was only chosen because it had an image on stand-by when original illustrator Reginald panne had to draw the locomotive. The original Thomas prototype was a J50.
Thanks very much for the info Gabriel, appreciate it! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Another good one Sam. Loved seeing an older model reviewed. 1979 will be the correct date of manufacture as it came out that year. I think it lasted to 81 then in 82 it came out in Southern Olive Green. It was only like that for a few years before the tooling was altered to become Thomas in about 84/85. I think the late 70s early 80s were Hornby at it's best. The chassis was developed specially to get the motor forward and allow cab detail. Around the same time Hornby brought out their Jinty (1978) , open cab pannier (1980) and J52 (1981) . By that time Hornby were in competition with Mainline and Airfix which were bringing out better detailed models.
+Russell Benton Thanks very much for the comment and the info mate - you're probably right too with saying 70s/80s were Hornby's best years - although I was never a fan of the tender driven stuff! I'd love to try and get one of the green E2s as well!
Cheers mate,
Sam :)
Hornby also made them in the black Southern 103 livery, and BR black with the lion on the side of the tank, but these don't look as good in black after you've seen them in brown or green.
That also makes sense as the real ones looked worse in the all black, as if BR didn't care what they looked like and just wanted to throw paint on and get them back out.
A lot of its pulling power issues likely stem not from the lack of weight, but the fact that she's only four wheel drive.
Not sure if you even noticed it at the time, but the center drivers are undersized significantly. Now, I'm sure this was done for tight curve performance, but that's gonna nip its pulling power hard.
Hi mate, yes that is true - in fact all of the Tri-ang and early Hornby engines were like this - except this model (and others from the same era) had very shiny metal tyres, which never gripped the track as well as the older cast metal wheels did - and so you don't get too much traction with any of these (the Halls, 2MTs, N15 and Scotsman models from the same era were all the same too!)
Cheers,
Sam :)
I just bought this! It came today, very high detailed, 10/10
Ooh awesome! Hope you enjoy her mate! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
I try eBay it was 600 dollars is it still on Amazon? Cause i want one as my first engine
This is an E2 class without the extended side tanks. They had them extended later on.
That's true - it's a shame Hornby never did the extended version (other than Thomas!)
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Yeah, I’m actually using the design you’ve got to make a diesel-electric E2 class tank engine. There is a miniature railway called the Saltburn Miniature Railway. They have diesel powered A3 and A4 Pacifics.
I just wanted to design a tank engine for them. If I can.
No. 100 is who I designed it after. The side tanks and bunker would be the fuel tanks.
Also I agree with your grading. I thought this was a new model.
My dream is to own a Honrby model of the E2 to have on display or running on a layout
Ooh okay! Well take a look on Ebay - they really don't cost that much these days!
Cheers,
Sam :)
Got mine for £11 off a friend he wanted to scrap it as it did not run and did not fit in with his stock but i got it before he took it to bits and brought her back to life new motor new rods a clean and off she went all im mising is a smokebox door but i have found an old dapol kit not shure what it is but it fits.
Me to
Same
I want one to! But I can't find one
Thomas is based on the E2 with the extended water tanks and has splashers on the front wheels
+ThomasFan17 Ah yeah, I found that out too - although after I made this video! Thanks a lot for the info!
Cheers,
Sam :)
+Sam'sTrains rip Thomas
Thomas The Tank Engine was part of my childhood.
Yeah, thomas was a big part of many people's child-hoods! He's very important in keeping the model train world working too!
Cheers,
Sam :)
Reny Rex same I still use NWR NO.1-6 or in other words I still have Thomas Edward Henry Gordon James and Percy
Sam'sTrains When I Move To Britain I Will Make A E2 Named Thomas
Reny Rex me too
Reny Rex same goes to me
I recently bought one of these good boys at hattons, I actually live near Hattons, so basically where all the stuff that you buy is From, he had to be serviced and was missings part of his buffer beam, but it’s practically perfect
Lovely review as usual sam :) im still after one of these locos, alot of things to work on,oh and the cylinder thing on the end of the tank is what's known as a westing house break pump, it was quite a widely used piece of equipment of the era :)
+Colm Connolly- Taylor Thanks very much, really glad you liked it! These are great locos, even if they can't pull an awful lot! Thanks a lot for the info too, always very much appreciated!
Cheers,
Sam :)
+Sam'sTrains ah its just the body im after really, then after ive added some wight it will be partnered with a Bachmann pannier tank chassis and no worries mate, happy to help :)
Thomas was based on the 2nd one, Timothy was based on the first one.Thomas' whistle was in fact put in front of the cab, not on top.
Oh right! Very interesting - thanks a lot! :D
All the best,
Sam :)
I'm always trying to help a fellow Thomas fan.
Plus, could you tell me where Timothy have came from, because I've just been wondering that. thanks =)
Moving the whistle was an actual modification I think BR had to do for tunnel clearance at some point. The engineers liked it too, since it was really loud inside the cab when it was on the cab, and putting it next to the safety valve improved that a lot.
@ well I guess I learned something new today
I have this locomotive!! This video actually inspired me to purchase one of these, have zero regrets 🤎💛
I may be American, but the Brits did far better with trains. Still do, to this day.
I have this one, and Princess Alice, the Coronation Class with the streamlined body in the blue and white livery
Ahh fantastic - really glad you got one too - they are lovely!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Where can I get this loco in the US?
Hi Sam i was wondering if you could do a servicing video on the E2 because i took a look at your Thomas servicing and the older models are a little more complex so I thought i would ask.
Hi mate, check out my tri-ang steam servicing videos - those run on the same motor, and should tell you everything you need to know! :D
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
if only they came out with more versions of the e2s from 100 to 109 then we could have did a series of the other e2 locos besides thomas... just a random idea
Yeah I know - that would have been very good actually - I'm still hoping someone will produce an updated E2 model! :D
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
I hope Hornby makes more of these old locos like the E2 or the 57xx.
I know - that's true - if they made a super detailed E2, it'd surely do really well! D:
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
can u put some hornby engines on batchmann tracks?
Yes you can! :D
Sam'sTrains do u know what kind of hornby trains i can put on my Batchmann Ho scale tracks?!
Ugandan Kunckles Hornby makes many of their products in OO scale, while Bachmann makes many of their products in HO scale. However, the differences between those two scales are minuscule, although the proportions of the two brands are different.
PixelCrafterZ ok thx
It’s Bachman, not batchman.
7:04 that's a Westinghouse brake pump.
To help with the brakes.
Ahh thank you!! :D
@@SamsTrains no problem.
@@SamsTrains also, how do I get one of these engines?
Main reason is it's my favourite 0-6-0 tank engine.
I love that E2 lets just hope it becomes an E3
haha absolutely! ;D
I get the joke and I hope so to
The LBSC E2 tank engine has it OWN coaches or Thomas Annie and clarabel because they ARE based off of the LBSC e2 tank engine coaches
Yeah it does - that's very cool! :D
Thanks a lot for the comment,
Sam :)
I dont like the new animated Thomas at all but I loved the original! nice work sam! keep doing what you're doing!
+Mitchell Hogg Yeah, you can't beat the real models - it just couldn't be the same!
Thanks a lot for the support!
Cheers,
Sam :)
There was actually one thing I really appreciated about the animated version. They made it so you could see the piston and valve linkages when you saw the engines from in front or behind or beneath.
I'm american, and the concept of inside pistons was completely unknown to me until I went down the research rabbit hole of how British engines worked without having visible cylinders. It's a neat and elegant layout, but pretty much all American engines have the cylinders on the outside.
Apparently we had a few three cylinder engines (2 outside and one in the center), but space and power output were not really as big of a concern as having enough drive wheels was, so there were more gigantic engines out here with 8, 10, 12, or 16 drive wheels.
Another great video Sam! And what a beautyful engine! I hope Hornby will bring it back in the Railroad range. . .
Thanks a lot Bert - I'd love if they did that, it'd be awesome! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Yay my favourite steam locomotives 🚂
That's great to hear! :D
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
I’m really starting to like the 70s Hornby Railway 060s, I much prefer these over the much more recent 040s that go in to sets.
Sam fun fact: the E2s never wore the brown livery in the early LBSCR days it's thanks to HORNBY that mislead a lot of people to believe the brown is what the E2s wore 2nd. 110 is going to mess up the railway books due to their already being a 110 e1 is the isle of whight (sorry for my vocabulary I forgot how to spell the island) and I keep checking the website for the E2 rebuild and there hasn't been a update since the project began and I think someone confrimed the project was cancelled a couple years ago I have to check later on but the person running the site made a train simulator model for the E2 you need to check the model out he also made the 1st railway series E2 Thomas it looks very good so check it out
This is your fan Steam Ranger2017 sighing out
Ooh really?? That's very interesting actually - thanks for the fun facts!
Thanks very much for your comment mate,
Sam :)
Sam'sTrains no problem mate
I agree.
Steam Ranger2017 I’m sure one wore blue
Yes , the E2’s were painted golden yellow ochre
were few of the E2 fitted with tenders like it showed like in those pictures you showed
Yeah it did look like it! I don't think so though - that's probably just the way they were lined up in the yard - there's no access to any tender, since the cab is completely enclosed!
All the best,
Sam :)
Cool i love this model
Thank you - yeah it's a classic! :D
Just purchased on of these 2 weeks ago and it arrived today! Incredible model, Highly recommend.
Edit: I’m getting another one for Christmas in Marsh Umber! So I’ll have the SR Black one, and the LBSCR Umber one. Cannot wait for December
@@MistaOlivuh I just bought one too. Can't wait for it to arrive.
AYYY TOMMY MA MAN!
haha - thanks for watching! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Sam'sTrains is the best thing ever
A good review Sam. Your white background shot clearly shows the smaller diameter centre wheel that doesn't touch the rail. Tri-ang and Hornby did that on all their six coupled locos to put the maximum weight onto four wheels to gain as much traction as possible. I got mine from Ebay as well and it's one of my favourites. Cheers, David.
+David Atkins Thanks very much for the comment - It is very noticeable actually yeah, especially with this one! I think ebay is definitely the best place for them, I very rarely have any trouble! :)
Cheers,
Sam :)
But i have got only caledonian belle
That's okay - it's a lovely set actually! :D
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
I wonder if someone should try a do new tooling for the E2. The old model is ok, but it's really showing it's age. If someone like Rapido, Accurascale, Sonic Models or even Hornby or Bachmann had a stab at it, we'd probably get a great model. Imagine how good it would look in Marsh Umber.
it befuddles me why no one has ever tried to re buld one.
I know! Though I think they might be doing now - I may be wrong though!
All the best,
Sam :)
Tanco plays
110 is in the concept phase
I've one in a glossy finish, it looks really nice except for the fingerprints that I put on it, every time i touch it..... Thomas thencially built in the first batch but to the design of the second, or atleast according to the lore.
Ooh awesome! Ahh yeah that's the problem with the glossy locos - still nice to see though! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Indeed, and more realistic than the matt finish.
I Hate The E2 Class Tank Engine
But For Some One Who Likes The E2 Tank Engines I Respect Your Opinion
Awhh - so why don't you like the E2?! D:
Cheers,
Sam :)
Well at list is better den the desols engines
Ah, this is just what I wanted to see, an original, non-Thomas, E2 Class 0-6-0T! Even the actual engine he was based on is rather impressive. Nice model and video!
Hi, glad you liked seeing her, they are lovely engines!
Cheers,
Sam :)
Also have you ever heard of the LBSC Thomas in the green #70? That was to represent the 70th anniversary of Thomas & Friends and it was in the 2015 special called The Adventure Begins. I've watched it and it was amazing from the classic Season 1 era in 1984 and the railway series. :P
I haven't seen that one actually - that sounds very strange indeed!! :O
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Bachmann made a model of that too. Same as the blue No. 1, but with the LBSC livery in green.
I just bought one of these, and I'm really excited for it to arrive. My interest in trains started between the Disneyland railroad that I rode on many times, and Thomas, and it's so cool to see a model of the same type as Thomas, but with much more detail because of being modeled from a real engine.
7:04 is actually part of the braking system. The E2 had a really powerful air brake system, which was actually one of the complaints about that type. The brakes were strong enough to stop the engine so fast that it would break couplings if the driver was too aggressive with it. I personally think that's a reason to complain about the antiquated couplings (unchanged from 1913 to the 1960s, really British Railways???), not a reason to complain about the brakes, but that's just me.
10:12 ironic, as the real E2 was a very strong engine. I think it had over 21,000 lbs of pulling power. It just burned through coal and water really fast.
Edit: my loco showed up, and I have a couple of interesting details:
3:33 that number isn't the year. I can tell because the instructions with my loco have 0679 there, rather than 1979, and I doubt Hornby was making this model 1,345 years ago. :-) It might the be engine serial number though. 🤷🏻♂️
10:12 This loco has an interesting feature in the form of magnetic driving wheels. It's interesting because if I lift it off of track that isn't fastened down, the loco will try and take the track off the ground with it! It's mentioned in the instructions as a way to make up for the loco being so light, but it only works if you use steel track, rather than brass or nickel silver.
Great review Sam. Locomotive has a great finish to it. It looks much later than 1979. Great set of wagons.
Oscar
+Oscar Paisley Thanks Oscar, I think it was ahead of it's time too! And cheers, I was quite pleased with them! :)
Cheers,
Sam :)
If you add a drop of oil to the fabric pads at either end of the motor armature of the x.03 and x.04 motors it can make them run much quieter. I have found the pannier tank can be made to run almost silently. It does depend from loco to loco however as the body basically becomes a sound box like a guitar.
Yes absolutely Stephen - I thoroughly service all my locos regularly!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Ever think you'll rereview the E2 Sam?
There is actually one left, it works on an island in the Irish sea near the isle of man called Soder, Sodir, somthing like that ;)
Ooh of course.. that blue one you mean?! Hmm what's he called again?!
Cheers mate, lol
Sam :)
Sam'sTrains I'm getting a e2 that looks exactly like Thomas by shape
I bought a very nice version of this in the Southern olive green livery no. 104, absolutely love it.
Ooh yeah I've seen those - that livery really is lovely! :D
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
I wish that they rereleased this model instead of the Hornby Thomas model with different colors
Fun fact: if you look up Hornby's prototype Thomas model for their magazine teaser (with the very first illustration-style face) you will see the cobbled-together extended tanks and the interesting chimney shape of this model.
This was corrected for *most* commercial models, there are a *very* slim number of the very *very* first models with this chimney shape, but most were remolded at a later date
Ooh that's really cool - I'll take a look at that!! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Hi Sam, you have got yourself a nice engine.....for its age the model looks in mint condition. Enjoyed the running session too. 😀
+mairuz1 Thanks mate, It's actually made up of a couple of locos - I took the best from both to make it as good as possible!
Glad you enjoyed it anyway,
Cheers,
Sam :)
Hi Sam,
I respect your opinion about the E2's,
but they were heavy going on water, underpowered and rubbish at pulling passenger trains above walking pace.
The cab was absoloutely tiny, which made working with one of theese a pain. They were a complete failure.
haha that's fair enough Tom - I know nothing about them in real life - only that they were quite nice looking! I suppose there's a reason why none were preserved ;D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains there are a couple of videos detailing their history, and all of their shortcomings and the things they did really well.
They were actually not weak engines at all, having quite a bit more tractive power than other engines their size, but they burned through coal and water really fast. A lot of people say they have small cold bunkers, but they actually had the same size coal bunkers as several larger engines did, and those larger engines did not have it a problem with that small coal capacity. The E2 just burned through it faster.
Ultimately, it's a pretty nice type of "failure" to have them in service for 46 to 50 years. I think he shortest lived one was LBSC 107 / SR 2107 / BR 32107, which was built in 1915, and the first to be retired in 1961.
I think Lawson Billington, who was the builder of the E2s like Thomas, is my ancestor.
Ahh that's very awesome - what relation was he to you then?? :3
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I'm not sure, but I'll find proof. Because my last name is Billington. He's probably my great-grandfather.
My grandfather who passed away when I was 9 didn't tell me if he is. Because I never asked him.
If Lawson Billington is my ancestor, I'm lucky.
You know what? A proposed project decided to build another E2 tank engine No.110 in the future.
I had this model when I was 2 years old and still have it boxed (I was very careful even as a small child). Yes I used to call it Thomas too.
Awesome! I bet there's not many that kept trains in good condition even at 2 years old - very well done! Always worth holding onto these things!
All the best,
Sam :)
Great review, I'm glad it was of the E2, I even have my own, well done, FYI Thomas is based on the second series. Keep the faith - Callum
+Northern Soul Express Thanks very much! And yeah, I've had a lot of people saying that, thanks for the info! :)
Cheers,
Sam :)
The second series E2 is most likely Thomas's E2 as Thomas has the extended side tanks and the second series E2 had the extended side tanks as well, the first series E2s did not have the extended side tanks. As the LB&SCR E2 Class Wiki says the second series design was judged to be a success with the issue of inadequate supply of water, that lead to a further order of 5 E2s being given extended side tanks something Thomas has, Thomas also has wheel wells and the real E2s did not have wheel wells.
So that means that Thomas is a second series E2 with wheel wells.
@@beckyjohnson6798 one of the complaints about the real E2 engines was that they were very rough riding at speed, and that was potentially due to an imbalance between wheel size and cylinder size.
There's a theory that Thomas was modified to have larger wheels to make him run smoother, hence the wheel arches.
If you want a Hornby E2 with extended side tanks, you can find one on Shapeways as a 3D printed model.
Fantastic - I didn't know that! :O
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
There's somebody selling those on eBay now, already printed and ready to be painted. Really expensive tho.
Watching them run was kinda satisfying I actually slept while watching it. XD
very good review and I love the loco where did you get it from because I think I would like one. I have just bought the new Hornby terriers and they are brilliant you should maybe consider getting one of them because they are only £35.00 and they are a quality loco. I have both liveries that are available and the detailing on them is brilliant thanks kirk
+kirk jones Thanks a lot for the comment - I managed to find mine on ebay! And yeah, I've seen a few of those terriers, they do look really good! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
I would love one of these. I often find parts for it on eBay, but fully intact hornby e2’s only show up once in a great while (at least on the American eBay).
Yeah you're right Jack - they're quite sought after these days! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Did the lbsc literally crazy any thing before the E2 to class tank engines cuz I think there was any e1 because there has to be some e1s was probably came out before or they reach the the number 100 so Emeril scrapped before the E2 class came in lbsc
Hey! There was a Class E1, but I don't think it had much to do with the E2 - It's the same class that became the J72!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Just catching up on this review; you didn't mention perhaps it most important feature, it has proper wheel bearings. I think it was Hornby's first to do so and for 1979 was quite something.
Thanks a lot Robin - yeah it absolutely does actually - definitely quite something!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
They were designed for shunting and for short distance freight trains (not short distance passenger trains).
Ahh thanks for that mate, I stand corrected! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
wrong, if you haven't notice, thomas is a E2 so that means on some preserved railways, (I don't know one does this) they do a attraction of thomas.
Yeah, some railways do, but they don't use E2s, because none were preserved!
All the best,
Sam :)
I heard they used one of the LBSC tank engines for thomas land/day out with thomas. But you can't trust the internet! Nice video!
Morgan :)
Hmmm - probably not an E2 though, because they were all scrapped sadly :(
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
Sam'sTrains like i said you can't trust the internet!
I'm going to buy one in December and I might fit it with a modern Hornby RR 0-6-0 chassis.
Great idea - good luck with it mate! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Nice review Sam, do you generally find the build quality of older locos is much better then newer?...Simon
+Liverton -Simon Thanks Simon, that's generally what I've found, I don't think I've ever hit a major quality issue with an old model!
Cheers,
Sam :)
I’m thinking of getting one it would look good on my railway, it’s a pretty good looking engine! :)
Awesome! Hope you can find a good one! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Yeah. Mostly cuz its fricking Thomas the tankin'' dankin'
Sam! There's a new Bachmann Thomas in his LBSC livery from The Adventure Begins! It's official. No kidding!
Yeah I've seen it - looks super cool!! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
how did you get this! I can't find this anywhere on ebay or anywhere else, they're all sold out! Lucky you!
haha yeah - they haven't sold these for years - you just have to keep an eye out on Ebay, or train fairs - they do turn up from time to time! There are loads going on Ebay at the moment! :D
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
LBSCR E2 no.105 is most likely Thomas's real world number, as the E2 class went from 100 to 109. 105 was built in the same year as Thomas, both in 1915.
Yes that's very true - good point there! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Sam'sTrains In show, he was No.70, which would be impossible.
I really want an E2 model, I’ll rather order one or I will go to London and find a decent price hobby shop and find one
Ooh very cool! Ebay is probably your best bet - they're fairly cheap on there!! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Sam'sTrains
I looked on eBay and they don’t have a single one
i found 2 on ebay one was a bid and one was for sale
but i bought the one for sale so there only the bid now
lol
I found a few but since they’re from The UK, it might take a little while for it to get here
15:10 thanks! I love these!
+Why Not? Thanks, they seem to go down well! :)
this is a loco that iv been looking for, it is a very nice loco and an excellent video on it
+GWR23 Studios Thanks mate! These are great - and quite cheap now too! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
You mentioned that due to the wheel set being driven from the back, it can jam if loco is left unused for long periods of time. How would you fix a loco if it does jam?
Usually just jostling the wheelset can free it up - but it can be difficult to fix - make sure the rods are fitted the right way, and try to check the quartering if you can!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I have one of these. I was told they are rare, I don't know whether that's true or not, although I have never seen another one. It's the most reliable model I've ever had. Also one of the noisiest! Unfortunately the smoke box door is missing on mine.
+trainman665 Thanks a lot for yourr comment, these aren't particularly rare, as they turn up on eBay quite often, but as you say, they're definitely reliable models! I've already had a comment about missing smoke-box doors, so that must be a common issue with them!
Cheers,
Sam :)
+Sam'sTrains Didn't think so. They must be hiding from me! I plan to get a new door for it if I can find one. Excellent channel by the way, I only discovered it recently so I'm going through loads of previous videos. Loads of good stuff!
+trainman665 Thank you very much, very kind of you to say - glad you like it! :)
Cheers,
Sam :)
Something weird happened in the middle of the running session. I think it happened near Gordon's Hill. The Pannier Tank Engine magically disappeared momentarily, to be replaced by that Dancer wagon thing-a-mi-jig. Add Bullman again on the rear of the PT's goods train. Can you prevent this double weirdo whammy happening again, somehow? It's weirding me out slightly.
There is a bit of weird magic on my railway - I don't know what it is! Occasionally there are glitches like that, but I never notice them until I watch the footage back!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I have a suggestion: Maybe make a full railway war movie like trains in the blitz, maybe include some of the non-war engines, and they can do work, make dramatic sequences and scenes where they find out some of the engines were destroyed along with their crew by an attack/accident on the railway or in the war. All that stuff, add diesels, ETC.
Hi! Great idea, thanks a lot for that one - I'd love to make some more short films! I've just finished my Christmas one, which is for kids! :D It'll be out in a couple of weeks!
Cheers,
Sam :)
Actually, the prototype livery on the model is kind of accurate…
Around the era when the E2’s were built, the LBSC’s main livery was an umber brown with gold lining, most associated with their passenger engines. A couple E2’s were trialed for push-pull passenger service (an experiment which wasn’t that successful) and were given the umber brown livery but this was in 1914, the year before the second batch of E2’s with the extended side tanks were built
What if thomas is based off No. 108
@@SCB-SCCS No.108 can't be Thomas. Thomas arrived on Sodor in 1915 and No.108 was built in 1916. He most likely would've been No.105 also built in 1915 and was the first member of the E2s with the extended side tanks, so he would've been sent to Sodor shortly after being built. Since the LBSC quietly sold Thomas off, most likely a duplicate No.105 would've been built to replace Thomas' slot on the mainland. Either that or he was an unofficial prototype built that same year before No.105 was built and was sold to Sodor before No.105's construction
As i reasearced on google you are right
from the story "Thomas and Gordon" in Thomas the Tank Engine. Thomas arrived on Sodor shortly after he was built in 1915, when The Fat Controller bought the locomotive for a nominal sum to be a pilot engine at Vicarstown.
E2's were a type of 0-6-0T side-tank steam locomotive's built from 1913 to 1916.
that slow speed was very impressive!
+Why Not? Yeah, they do surprisingly well at low speeds! :)
Hello Sam,
Smashing review of your Hornby E2 Tank Engine, I have one too and she runs very well.
Have you ever watched Thomas the Tank Engine since you were a lad?
I still watch it.
How about you buy a Hornby R9287 Thomas along with his coaches, Annie & Clarabel and review them somewhere this year.
Again well done for the Hornby E2 review.
+Jordan Shingler Thank you very much for the kind words, I don't watch Thomas, but I can definitely understand the appeal!
I may look into that suggestion, if others request it, so I'll let you know!
Thanks a lot for watching,
Cheers,
Sam :)
Oh OK and Thank you. 👍
Thomas is a tank engine who lives at a big station. He has six small wheels, a short stumpy funnel, a short stumpy boiler, and a short stumpy dome.
Yay Thomas's Basis But He Has The Extended Water Tank's But That's A Cool Locomotive
Yeah that's right - and that's true too, good point! :D
Thanks some much for watching,
Sam :)
what the heck was that little cube thing running on the tracks and how did you get a motor to fit in that thing
Haha, it was a Bachmann Gandy dancer, they're not too good but great fun - I'll review it really soon!
Cheers,
Sam :)
ok thx cause i saw it and was entirely confused
Billington E2 is my favorite locomotive, and for me, it's the best locomotive. ☺
Thanks Ben! Yes they are very lovely things actually!
Cheers mate,
Sam :)
Hey Sam'sTrains, I have a cool suggestion, have you tried painting your locomotives? ☺
You should make a video about how to paint a locomotive. ☺
P.S. You could try to put a number on your locomotives. ☺
Hey Sam'sTrains, I also have another suggestion, have you tried turning a locomotive into a push along toy? ☺
You should make a video about how to make a locomotive into a push along toy. ☺
Hey Sam'sTrains, 1 final suggestion, have you ever put a face in your locomotives? ☺
You should make a video about how to make a face for your locomotive. ☺
Hey Sam'sTrains, 1 question, if your locomotive is included in a body kit, does it have the motorized wheel body? ☺
Hey Sam did you that Thomas the tank engine was originally based on the gresley j50 060
Yeah I did hear that - imagine how he would have looked as J50?! :O
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains I know but I'm just thankful that they changed the design from an j50 to an e2
Thomas had a different look before..in the awady days, I forgot what loco, but sadly it was replaced by the E2'S
Yeah he did, you're right!
Cheers,
Sam :)
Awesome review you did an amazing job reviewing this lovely E2 model I just got but sadly it doesn't work so me and my dad will hopefully bring it in to have it looked at also when you were little did you watch Thomas the tank engine and friends. :D
+Nicks Adventures (Nick's Adventure) Thank you very much for the kind comment, glad you liked it - and best of luck with getting yours fixed! And strangely no, I was never really into Thomas for some reason!
Cheers,
Sam :)
+Sam'sTrains Oh ok and yep no problem
+Sam'sTrains and also thank you
How do you take the body off? I really need to know!
You slide a flat screwdriver under the clip at the back of the loco, and carefully ease the body off!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Thanks alot
Could you mention how to do it in a vidio or make a whole vidio on how to service it please? Regards jonn. I'm 13 btw
Hello Sam. May I ask what kind of camera you used for the moving track level shots?
Simon
+flmabhwd Hi Simon, that was done using the möbius action cam, you can find them on eBay for about £60,
Cheers,
Sam :)
Where is the best place to pick up a model of the E2 tank engine? After seeing all these videos I really want a model for myself!
I think Ebay is your best bet Alex - sadly Hornby don't make them any more :(
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
£11.98 in 70's would be about £120 now - in such good condition, £20 for an 8/10 engine seems fantastic value! (especially when chimney is included! Good review.
+itloon Thanks a lot for your comment - these are definitely worth more than £20 in my opinion, they are great locos! And haha yeah, the chimney is a bonus that I do enjoy!
Cheers,
Sam :)
I was wondering if the hornby and bachman trains can run on the same track
Hi mate - yes they can, as long as they're the same gauge! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
can you do a review on the difference between Thomas and your e2 in the model details
Hi! Yeah that's a good idea - I'm actually doing that in a video coming soon! :D
All the best,
Sam :)
cheers
3:29 Why does that picture look so familiar?
haha!! I wonder! ;D
Hey Sam do u have a rf-16 locomotive? And if so what is your rating I got one for my birthday and haven't gotten to test it out yet mine is from bachmann
Hi! No I don't actually - are they good?? I might have to try and get one - thanks for the tip!
All the best,
Sam :)
Sam'sTrains well as far as I can tell the one I got has nice detail tons of riveting a good weight to it and I got mine for $50 usd on amazon cuz sales
Haven't gotten to test it yet though my layout isn't put together I need to dig it out of my basement
Nice review Sam, wow look at all the comments already... : )
This loco is a popular one. : )
Regards, Cliff.
+janiceandcliff Thank you very much, and I know - I can't believe how many people are so enthusiastic about this one!
Thanks for watching mate,
Sam :)
Its stunning im planning on getting it where did you get this one? Also amazing video sam :)
+ACE FLYING SCOTSMAN Ace fs Thank you very much, I got mine on ebay!
Cheers,
Sam :)
R U going to make a series when trains talk?
Probably not a series - but I do it once in a while :3
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
Wow this video is so old but still so good
Since the E2's buffer beam cracks does Thomas' as well?
Yes they do have a tendency to be a bit fragile - but they should be fine if you're careful! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Sam'sTrains How do you prevent the buffer beam from cracking when you're servicing Thomas?
where are you finding these trains? can you at least link them next time?
Nope - these haven't been made for years - second hand is your only bet!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Does it matterabout the cab detail? I mean, we're not really looking in the cab, are we?
Not with this model - but some models do have a very visible cab! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Technically there’s one e2 body still being used except it’s a Thomas body used at Drayton manor
Ahh yes - though that won't be related to the original class!
Cheers,
Sam :)
hi Sam
I am in the lake district and I was wondering if you could tell me please whereabouts is Keswick's model shop for Hornby is. I cannot seem to find it.
Cheers H
Hi mate - sadly there's no model shops near Keswick, check Keswick collectibles, they sometimes have the odd piece!
All the best,
Sam :)
cheers,
all the best!
I have had a look on the website but there is no Hornby.
Thanks for letting me know.
H
You'd have to go into the shop to find out - I don't think they list their items online!
Cheers,
Sam :)