WHAT IF CHAOS RULED THE 40K GALAXY? | WARHAMMER 40,000 LORE / SPECULATION

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    Timestamps:
    0:00 Intro
    0:51 Can Any Achieve Galactic Dominion?
    9:07 A Galaxy of Chaos
    29:28 Is Chaos Dominion Achievable?
    30:33 vs Imperium
    36:16 vs Necron
    39:07 vs Aeldari
    42:06 vs Tyranids
    46:38 Final Conclusions
    50:49 Outro
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  • @Luetin09
    @Luetin09  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +564

    Started thinking about is it even feasible that any faction of the 40K verse can achieve total galactic domination? Which do you want me to look at next? Tyranids? Necron? lol Tau? Please help me to appease our thirsty god of TH-cam ALGO by dropping a Like and tell me your thoughts if you enjoyed this video.

    • @detroitbecomesurvivaltrain7813
      @detroitbecomesurvivaltrain7813 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Good vid bro, 8.4/10

    • @vegetas_conscious
      @vegetas_conscious 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      tyranids for sure bro the ALGO (and to a lesser extent me :)) would enjoy

    • @MehnixIsThatGuy
      @MehnixIsThatGuy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      The Orks could, but if they did they would then only have each other to fight, with no active challenge to motivate them they'd just slowly devolve into a bunch of scattered pockets that would occasionally rise and fall until there was nothing left to fight over.

    • @DeafEnder
      @DeafEnder 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      The Imperium, Eldar, and yes regrettably the tau are the only species i could see having a stable future after galactic domination.

    • @snoox27
      @snoox27 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Orks, always 😂

  • @alecryan5962
    @alecryan5962 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1458

    If chaos got anywhere close to total victory, Tzeentch would flip the table and sabotage his own side to keep things interesting.

    • @maltheri9833
      @maltheri9833 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +225

      The Alpharius way.
      Chaos Gods: "Whyd you ruin the plan? We were so close."
      Tzeenpharius: "It'd have been too easy."

    • @KhenWolf
      @KhenWolf 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +247

      *Chaos begins winning*
      *Chaos begins losing and they don't know why*
      *Zeentch eating the pieces when no one's looking*

    • @toheekang174
      @toheekang174 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +167

      Tzeentch is that one friend in your group that need to be watched when playing Minecraft

    • @connycontainer9459
      @connycontainer9459 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      Good point. The god playing against itself would create a foe equal to it's own own strength.

    • @JWat-ko1hr
      @JWat-ko1hr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      Yep. Tzeentch isn't really the most direct chaos god. I just really want a meme with Frank Renyolds as Tzeentch poking the other gods off the side of a building with a 2x4 now. "OH NO YOU DON'T"

  • @Dr.Gainzzz
    @Dr.Gainzzz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1915

    The lore master goes a little heretical with this one boys.

    • @Wafflecat09
      @Wafflecat09 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +114

      The path of those with "inquisitive" minds always lead to chaos. 😢

    • @jtjames79
      @jtjames79 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

      ​​​@@Wafflecat09blessed is the mind too small for doubt.

    • @jonathanjackgoodman2764
      @jonathanjackgoodman2764 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      The Emporor protects. Fear not.

    • @fabriciobertoluci1341
      @fabriciobertoluci1341 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Heresy? Yes please

    • @kenbrocas172
      @kenbrocas172 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      "Hello, Inquisition?, Yes I've got something I think you should see. Ah, no, please don't send any Grey Knights..."

  • @arunavsenbiswas8354
    @arunavsenbiswas8354 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +723

    Luetin Sleep Club Anyone ?
    His voice is just so relaxing, even if he's describing horrific darkgrim lore 😂😂

    • @Toccen
      @Toccen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      I tend to listen to his videos first when playing some games then use them on repeat for sleeping xD

    • @mombulu02
      @mombulu02 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      I sleep with em on, and listen to whatever I miss at breakfast the next day. Basically watch em all twice and pleased to do so, the content is immense

    • @Mitchmyoutube
      @Mitchmyoutube 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Sleep gang for life

    • @mariomikulic9876
      @mariomikulic9876 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I must've watched each of his videos at least a dozen times, knocks me tf out besides being very enjoyable

    • @michealclark4788
      @michealclark4788 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      It's 630pm right now. Iv got to drive 12 and a half hours and leave by 1 am. Lore master help me rest.

  • @jim424
    @jim424 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +214

    I found you at the end of 2022 while I was recovering from cancer surgery & I knew absolutely nothing about 40K. Being a Henry Cavill fan & hearing him talk about it, I found your videos while searching TH-cam. Thank you so much for doing these! Your videos have become something I can get lost in. Keep up the excellent work!

    • @adrienwatson2179
      @adrienwatson2179 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Awesome, Glad you got into 40k and even more glad that you kicked cancers ass brother!
      Congratulations!

    • @jim424
      @jim424 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@adrienwatson2179 Thanks so much!

    • @Socialsl
      @Socialsl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Emperor Protects, also fuck cancer!

    • @davidmorris6226
      @davidmorris6226 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Your bodies Guardsmen kicked the crap out of cancer.
      Welcome to the fandom

    • @coaiemandushman1079
      @coaiemandushman1079 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Man, fuck cancer. It took away by grandpa and almost took my mother, I am glad you fucked it up. I wish that cancer just dies.

  • @roryspickett9881
    @roryspickett9881 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +113

    I imagine a chaos victory would look like the Imperium Nihilus. An ever shifting set of Warlords battling for territory and favour while galaxy itself becomes a vast hellscape.

    • @ffejpsycho
      @ffejpsycho 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      imperium nihilus is but mere foreplay when compared to a total Chaos victory envelopment

    • @roryspickett9881
      @roryspickett9881 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@ffejpsycho sshh don't tease the dark gods that way.

    • @ffejpsycho
      @ffejpsycho 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@roryspickett9881 but its the only thing they truly respect!

  • @Mtn_Dewit
    @Mtn_Dewit 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +230

    The Inquisition will definitely be knocking on your door, Leutin. Great work. You are the lore master

    • @PrivateerXTR
      @PrivateerXTR 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Informative and helpful, damned Heretic.

    • @Mtn_Dewit
      @Mtn_Dewit 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@PrivateerXTR He may be a heretic, but he's a lore master heretic

    • @nobleman9393
      @nobleman9393 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      10 Skitarii legions stand ready to repel them!

    • @theotv5522
      @theotv5522 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They can’t find him because he’s using an STC called “VPN”

    • @Mtn_Dewit
      @Mtn_Dewit 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@theotv5522 *angry Tech Priest noises*

  • @Zyddie
    @Zyddie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +263

    My freaking hero Luetin!
    Doing a 20 hour+ work report and was getting sleepy and then you drop this :D PERFECT TIMING! You are loved mate!

    • @Bloodworia
      @Bloodworia 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      So you instantly fell asleep?

    • @TraphouseTCG
      @TraphouseTCG 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Bloodworiabruh lmfao 😂

    • @marcinwitkowski217
      @marcinwitkowski217 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I feel ya mate, I have to check footage from 3 cameras at my workplace from 26.06 to 5.07 so it adds up to something around 110 hours of footage that I have to check minute by minute and it's going painfully slowly

    • @popcornfilms1
      @popcornfilms1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@marcinwitkowski217security work?

    • @marcinwitkowski217
      @marcinwitkowski217 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@popcornfilms1 yup + running the reception

  • @Numtalegau
    @Numtalegau 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    The Emperor protects.
    I´m gonna need to refresh my purity seals after this one, but it will be well worth it.
    Thank you, Luetin.

  • @mho...
    @mho... 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Having *Chaos Undivided* going on a Galaxy wide Bughunt to push the Tyranids out to protect their Soul"Lifesstock" would be an epic Campaign!

    • @drek9k2
      @drek9k2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      OH GOD please pls pls please GM let us have just one damn Space 4x game like this, like Endless Space 2, where we get to actually play a vast galaxy size map--obviously nowhere near ES2 I mean ES2 hugest maps would be like a segmentum tops--and much like the Risk style play of Dawn of War 1 Dark Crusade and get to do an actual galaxy wipe. I've craved this game since forever and it saddens and baffles me that there's a 40k game in literally EVERY SINGLE DAMN GENRE, EVEN CHESS FFS *except* the one damn genre the whole setting was practically made for: space 4x. The closest we ever got was Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 and Gladius, but the one is literally just a single world setting (so basically it's like any other 40k game, scaled down even because Inquisitor Martyr and Rogue Trader I can fly around, in others I can fight over sectors) the other is just giving me clusters of systems.
      I know I know, it's practically impossible to actually do this in a realistic way for the same reason we can never see an easy win for any faction within the next couple thousand years, but still. Space 4x I'd want in a heartbeat. I guess it would just be really weird to pull off because traditional space 4x rely on Risk-like territories, or even RTS like contiguous national territories, as opposed to 40k where everyone except like the Tau is fairly distributed all over the galaxy. So you'd have worlds within everybody's territory and I don't know how to deal with that. You'd basically have active threat borders and active wars at all directions at all times and it'd make any remotely accurate depiction a rather interesting inversion of traditional space 4x because it'd make the starting the most absolutely hectic, chaotic, desperate struggle for everybody to survive, followed by massive hegemonic blobs in a slow, long attrition grind likely looking like Chaos, necrons, nids etc. slowly just steamrolling the entire galaxy hundreds of worlds at each turn in a slow but steady grind.
      I really don't know how you should do that one accurately but I would love to play a total galaxy wipe non-canon 40k space 4x where you could more or less decide how 40k itself actually ends. Who knows. Maybe even the Tau could convert the Eldar and Mankind to Greater Good and slowly impose order on the whole galaxy lol.

  • @fix0the0spade
    @fix0the0spade 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +248

    What if Chaos ruled the Galaxy?
    To paraphrase one of the Ciaphas Cain books, "It would be really, really bad,"

    • @LordBelakor
      @LordBelakor 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      hahaha
      yeah just a matter of perspective :D

    • @grandfathernurgle2840
      @grandfathernurgle2840 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It's not a matter of if but when.

    • @LordBelakor
      @LordBelakor 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@grandfathernurgle2840 yeah but I hope GW knpows not to repeat Age of Sigmar and keep that a few thousand years away, to place alot of lore and for us to keep enjoying 40k and not to forget to praise the 4 gods

    • @670HP-Package-NOW
      @670HP-Package-NOW 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@grandfathernurgle2840Necrons: Bet

  • @MacabreMermaid2
    @MacabreMermaid2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +192

    Thanks for all the great lore videos over the years.

  • @x0lopossum
    @x0lopossum 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    15:30 Abandons goal to conquer the Imperium is an incredibly monumental task. He has more things to worry about than just the Imperium. 48:40 How Chaos usually operates regarding campaign tactics.

    • @chaosXP3RT
      @chaosXP3RT 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But his ultimate goal is the destruction of the Imperium. Once that's achieved, it's true chaos

    • @MaticustheRed
      @MaticustheRed 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I mean. He's really more concerned with just wrecking up the place tho right?

    • @ikhidealigbeh514
      @ikhidealigbeh514 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Ah, winning is easy, young man, governing's harder

    • @Micsma
      @Micsma 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@ikhidealigbeh514occupations never succeed

    • @die_buecher7090
      @die_buecher7090 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@Micsmathats just not true

  • @varelmarais2222
    @varelmarais2222 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    37:16 a good explanation would be that they literally never had a clue about chaos. Remember that the Eye of Terror is where the Eldar homeworlds once were. The network of pylons surrounding it was probably just part of the conflict between the Eldar and Necrons.

    • @varelmarais2222
      @varelmarais2222 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Thinking about it a little more tho, it's totally plausible that the chronomancers could've seen into the future and found that, maybe not what's known as Chaos now, but _something_ would emerge from there. Or maybe that area is where the Enslaver Plague of all things started and they were fighting them too, who knows lmao

    • @Schmierhaar
      @Schmierhaar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      From recent snippets in White Dwarf magazines, we learned more specific details about the Eye of Terror. Apparently, it was a wound in reality that was torn during the War in Heaven. Then the Necrons closed the wound again with the pylons, but unfortunately, the core of the Eldar Empire happened to be were the old rift was located. The birth of Slaanesh ripped the wound open again, and that's the Eye of Terra we know today. I had the impression that many fans hated this kind of retcon, but I'm okay with it

    • @varelmarais2222
      @varelmarais2222 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Schmierhaar that is kinda lame imo. It'd be far cooler if it was just because of the warfare between the Eldar and Necrons. But I don't really hate that either.

  • @VergilJones23
    @VergilJones23 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    I've said this before, but there is nothing better than a random Luetin drop. Almost an hour, too?! Thank you, Loremaster. Work just got a little bit better.

    • @MaticustheRed
      @MaticustheRed 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Right. I saved it till after midnight, and pretend it's my birthday present! My brain was like oooooooh Luetin wants me to be well rested for tomorrow.

    • @michaelking9818
      @michaelking9818 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just stop it

  • @TKVirusman
    @TKVirusman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    There is something very uplifting about being able to eat my last protein meal after gym at 4am because my sleep schedule is messed up from bar work while I study for my masters degree and listen to this Warhammer video. Thank-you Luetin for being part of a community that stretches across every subculture and makes one and all feel welcome. 💖

  • @wesleyredmond3464
    @wesleyredmond3464 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Never really was interested in 40k . Came across your channel and just can’t get enough of it! Thanks for bringing me into this chaotic fold of a galaxy 🤘🏻

  • @ivegotajousyaccent99
    @ivegotajousyaccent99 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Luetin, I love your videos, but especially your Tyranid videos. Since you’ve been revisiting/redoing some of your older videos, it would be awesome to see you redo your video on the first encounter between the Imperium of Man and the Tyranids at Tyran Primus and Macragge during the First Tyrannic War. That video is my absolute favorite of all your videos and it would be great if it got touched up.
    The Emperor protects.

  • @user-wm5rt9pw5l
    @user-wm5rt9pw5l 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Orcs are a persistent and random problem" - is a pretty comprehensive description of this race.

  • @jonathanthomas8736
    @jonathanthomas8736 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Firstly, this one is super meaty and fun to chew over. Umami abounds. Secondly, you touched on it, but I don't think you stressed enough that an Imperium significantly weakened by Chaos writes an end to Chaos, as other factions opportunistcally erase humanity as Chaos' major energy source.
    Third: who's next? Tyranninds, I think, as they seek no control, merely resources. Definitely save the Imperium for your final or penultimate installment, with the Tau and/or other smaller factions being last or just prior.
    Finally, as always, my thanks. You make my world a richer place.

  • @AlexanderMharcei
    @AlexanderMharcei 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Good video. Only piece I think you may have missed is Eldar assisting the Imperium against chaos. Eldrad, Yvranne, ... even the Avatar in Shadow Point. Numerically, I'm not sure this amounts to much, but strategically it could be a force multiplier toward both races' goals. Granted those are likely esoteric interactions compared to direct conflict between them. Eldrad or a unified Aeldari in concert with the two returned primarchs' acumen pairs up well.
    On the other end, while I doubt the Godblight would be something to kill the Emperor - at least in GW's continuation of the lore - it could severely weaken the Emperor or raise the stakes in the Great Game (if the Emperor is ascending).

  • @the36lessons11
    @the36lessons11 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    If Chaos was a parasite, then the death of its host would be only a Pyhrric victory for a short amount of time before it would look for another more healthy host lest it die along with it.
    Tzeentch is vastly underestimated in how far it would go to ensure the Great Game never ends to the point of self-destruction just enough to continue and even the odds for those Chaos preys upon.

  • @biofoot7874
    @biofoot7874 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    AoS is actually an exploration of exactly this scenario. Chaos just straight up won in the Mortal Realms, and the Age of Sigmar is the age in which the other forces take steps back onto the stage of the Mortal Realms

  • @Khalith
    @Khalith 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I love the thought experiment if a galaxy rules by Tau where everyone is best buddies. A video is n their ideal would be an amazing thing to consider.

  • @SwagelokTaj
    @SwagelokTaj 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I'd love to see a similar video regarding the Eldar. Or the Imperium.

    • @LunarLocust
      @LunarLocust 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      We know what an elder dominated galaxy looks like, it birthed slaanesh.

    • @inthefade
      @inthefade 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He said the original goal was to cover what all factions would look like but Chaos became an entire video. I think we’ll slowly get most of them, though the imperium isn’t just one faction, that could be a series.

    • @SwagelokTaj
      @SwagelokTaj 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that's a great point! Would a series necessarily be a "bad" thing? ;)@@inthefade

    • @SwagelokTaj
      @SwagelokTaj 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Everyone deserves a second chance...@@LunarLocust

    • @LunarLocust
      @LunarLocust 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SwagelokTaj I would agree if they hadn't murder fucked a chaos god into existence

  • @andarchy1386
    @andarchy1386 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Wasn't expecting this one and that's a good thing thank you kind sir!!

  • @danielsmith2249
    @danielsmith2249 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Can’t stop thinking about the Great Rift existing as a metaphysical firebreak for the Old Ones during the War in Heaven

  • @derekburge5294
    @derekburge5294 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If it weren't for plot reasons, the end game of the galaxy would simply be 'crons and 'nids, guest starring the orks from time to time.
    *I would love that so goddamn much.*

  • @Martdogg3000
    @Martdogg3000 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I can say without a shadow of a doubt I get more excited about Luetin videos than anybody else on youtube.

    • @DrEhrfurchtgebietend
      @DrEhrfurchtgebietend 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Heresy

    • @marsar1775
      @marsar1775 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i hope you clean up afterwards

    • @stephenwise3635
      @stephenwise3635 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@marsar1775 in the name of the emperor tho

    • @gravestone4840
      @gravestone4840 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Add The Exploring Series and Volgun to that list.

  • @flumbofrommelkont6863
    @flumbofrommelkont6863 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Looking at what would be required for the Tyranids to dominate and achieve their "win" status would probably be the most obvious interesting followup, considering how they're always presented as one of, if not 'the' ultimate threat the galaxy faces.
    But on the other hand, the sheer improbability and herculean feat of the Tau achieving theirs would also make a very fun topic to explore, considering just how high they would need to be punching above their weight class to even reach a hundredth of what would be required.

  • @TPaz-gy8oo
    @TPaz-gy8oo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pure excellence. Thank you. Your content and quality draws me every time where I can allow myself to just listen/watch without care and enjoy an immersion from another point of view. I don't know what else to say, it means a lot :) Well done.

  • @bensmith8999
    @bensmith8999 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Please do more of these. I love theoretical discussions like this

  • @Path_of-reality
    @Path_of-reality 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Some say the Emperor’s light reaches to the far corners of the galaxy. I say it shines right through my phone every time I open a luetin video. Praise be.

  • @sormiliha
    @sormiliha 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    There would still probably be villages, towns, or even worlds where everything would go on just as normal. Even in warp some worlds seem to be just weirdly normal. Warp is sort of infinite so it fits all kinds. Most of it of course would just be torture. But even chaos knows that without hope torture is meaningless.

  • @novibes5619
    @novibes5619 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Both the necron and the tyranids are both the 2 players most set up for the ultimate victory. In most factions when discussing what they would need to win it almost always an “if”. If the Imperium could gain a small respite from the endless onslaught ,if the Eldar could be free from the ever present threat of Slannesh, if Chaos could ever unite, so on and so forth with almost every faction. But for the Necron and the Tyranid it’s no longer an “if” but a “when”. For the Necron you have 2 opposing factions the Silent King and the Storm Lord. So once the inevitable showdown happens between them the Necron would be, save a few small dynasties, completely united. On top of this for each tomb world that comes back online the balance of power shifts tips more and more in the Necron’s favor.
    For the Tyranid it’s pretty simple their ultimate victory comes when the main swarm arrives. Of course though, if we even live long enough to see the Warhammer 40,000’s end times, the faction that wins will always be the one that drives the most model sales, and the lore will simply change to reflect that.

  • @MrBrett203
    @MrBrett203 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    shout out to you luetin! you were my first introduction to 40k lore and part of the reason I've decided to start collecting the books!

  • @Yrsill
    @Yrsill 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'm gonna be honest Chaos Undivided is something I happy to not see happening. If the current chaos presence is just fallen out figures from the war table that is the warp itself, I'm horrified to think about what could Chaos achieve if they would take a serious interest in the mortal realm. Thank you for this video Loremaster, I just love hearing about chaos stuff.

    • @LS1056
      @LS1056 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I find it as a paradox, a hypocrisy. For chaos to become unified, the warp needs to bound. Probably the gods to die and be formed a new. If anything I think it would take a thing to draw the union of the gods. I would assume another God forming or something that distorts warp, like Necron or Tyranid. Even then the gods would still make plays. I mean didn't Tzeetch stop himself from winning to make it interesting? I feel like they would never unify at current form and lore. Unless GW decides to go, "You're all friends now"

  • @JustSomeDamnGinger
    @JustSomeDamnGinger 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Love this. Chaos is such an interesting faction as a whole. The Imperium achieving total domination would be interesting because I don't know if they would be able to adapt to an existence without war. Even if they somehow evaded any chaos corruption, they would likely still be armed to stop revolts. I suppose then the risk would just be humanity going back to regional factions.

    • @user-xi5ej4ox5s
      @user-xi5ej4ox5s 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ironically if Imperium won and defeated all its enemies it would have to reform greatly to be able to operate in oeace time. If they don't do it or fail it - Imperium will be destroyed by rebellions and revolutions from within because without outside threats people ( and planetar elites too ) will see no reasons to support opressive regime. The enemies of Imperium are the dire threat to it, by there are also the very thing what keeps it together.

  • @Fr0styJade
    @Fr0styJade 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love these videos. The voice,editing and lore is on point like it’s always gonna be!

  • @FedericoMalagutti
    @FedericoMalagutti 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for your videos Luetin! Your way of explaining the lore is simply perfect!

  • @dembro27
    @dembro27 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    In my mind, the only faction that could conquer the galaxy is the Tyranids, and it's surprisingly easy for them to do so on paper; they are ridiculously overpowered. Defeating all mortal foes is feasible for them, which just leaves the Warp. Even if they didn't have their Shadow in the Warp effect, the scouring of all other life in the galaxy should weaken Chaos substantially, perhaps even to the point where the Chaos Gods lose sentience or, at the very least, can no longer influence realspace. And once they were victorious, they wouldn't need to worry about administering an empire, maintaining the happiness of their citizens, or any of that nonsense. They'd just move on to the next galaxy.

    • @ragnarian
      @ragnarian 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not to mention hive fleet Kronos, the anti-warp/Daemon fleet that is closing the Great rift where it goes

    • @nobleman9393
      @nobleman9393 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *Distant Necron laughter*

    • @rayzerot
      @rayzerot 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The necrons are a *hard* counter to the Nids. Even the Tyranids avoid tomb worlds. The necrons don't have biomass to absorb and have tech so dangerous even they don't use it

  • @NornQueenKya
    @NornQueenKya 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    If chaos ruled the galaxy I might finally find happiness

    • @Amfortas
      @Amfortas 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Aren't you a Tyranid player? 😏

    • @NornQueenKya
      @NornQueenKya 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Broadside. obviously all life being consumed in the galaxy would be pure bliss. But I'll settle for mass suffering as I laugh on my mini throne of skulls

    • @ribbitcroak
      @ribbitcroak 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NornQueenKyago to church

  • @toastie8173
    @toastie8173 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think what you said at the end could relate to a similar situation as in Isaac Asimovs The gods themselves, where humanity starts trading matter with beings in a different universe with different atomic laws, so that both essentially create energy for free, but they discover that bringing matter from another universe also brings a bit of their laws over, so the threat becomes that the local change in the strong nuclear force would cause the sun to go supernova.
    Maybe real space also bleeds into the warp same as the warp bleeds into the materium. Seeing as daemons hate reality, maybe the gods dont want to pollute their realm with physics any more than necessary.

  • @ImBarryScottCSS
    @ImBarryScottCSS 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    WHAT?! New lore so soon? I've only just finished digesting Vigilus 2, praise the Emperor/grandfather Nurgle.

  • @Arkimedus
    @Arkimedus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Legend, can never get enough of the long-form lore videos, you are solely responsible for getting me into 40k leutin

  • @Some_Cool_Dude
    @Some_Cool_Dude 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Would love to see a discussion of what the hell the elf boys and girls would even do if they could actually kill slaanesh and somehow re-establish the heart of their empire by closing the eye of Terror

    • @caiohenrique1603
      @caiohenrique1603 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      if their arses are still doing nasty stuff, she's coming back in the blink of an eye (talking about the dark eldar)

    • @lordilluminati5836
      @lordilluminati5836 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@caiohenrique1603 dark eldar do what they do to avoid their souls being taken by slaanesh. With slaanesh out of the picture there would likely be some type of civil war between the dark eldar as some of their number would try to become more like craftworld edar while others might want to stick to piracy and homonculi anyway. Maybe craftworld eldar would interviene. Either way, gomorrah would be changed forever and it-s possible the destruction and vacuum left over from this conflict would be fertile ground for the creation of a new xenos faction, eldar or otherwise

    • @victorrosenheart8036
      @victorrosenheart8036 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I don't believe they could actually kill Slaanesh(it would be a retarded business move because Slaanesh sells). Instead, I think GW would just have them no longer go to Slaanesh by default.

    • @casmd2131
      @casmd2131 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@victorrosenheart8036they could do what the elven gods did in AOS, which was chain up Slannesh, severely weakening it.

    • @victorrosenheart8036
      @victorrosenheart8036 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@casmd2131 Which is totally bullshit and honestly really annoying lore detail. Slaanesh is the best Chaos God

  • @MadSandman
    @MadSandman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm grateful for having you in the community.
    Your knowledge of the lore is awe inspiring and you manage to create hour-long videos that make time fly.
    Thank you for being you Lore Master.

  • @DF.1337
    @DF.1337 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you man, your warhammer vids are the best out there by far

  • @SwedetasticGames
    @SwedetasticGames 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    All 4 chaos gods have elements that bleed into the others, so I doubt they could truly overpower one another definetily. Decay requires change, fueling Tszeentch. Tszeentch requiring change will eventually lead to excess, death, bloodshed. Khorne revelling in bloodshed fuels into excess and decay. Excess leads to change, bloodshed and eventuall decay in it's wake. It is a wobbling but ironically balanced swirl of chaos.

  • @dukaan981
    @dukaan981 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think that if chaos ever "won" the galaxy would become an ever changing mosaic of minor fiefdoms. Each one ruled by a local warlord or high priest and extending only as far as their influence reaches.

  • @joelegendar6795
    @joelegendar6795 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love your content Luetin, thanks for doing such amazing work!

  • @PatClevenger
    @PatClevenger 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really enjoyed this would for sure enjoy hearing some more like it. Love what you do Luetin

  • @CJLloyd
    @CJLloyd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love this idea! Maybe hit the easy ones first, like Nids, and then move onto other factions, slowly moving to the hardest ones like Tau and... Squats.

  • @Flutezor
    @Flutezor 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Would love to hear your take on a happy-go-lucky-favourite-fungi galactic domination.

    • @dembro27
      @dembro27 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The only happy ending.

    • @ImBarryScottCSS
      @ImBarryScottCSS 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@dembro27nahhh if win galaxy who fite? Big sad.

    • @philltheotherguy1868
      @philltheotherguy1868 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@ImBarryScottCSSyou can always fight each other

    • @sanderssonjankins6251
      @sanderssonjankins6251 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      TOTAL ORK VICTORY

  • @damianbouras
    @damianbouras 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    this is a great idea for a series. Personally I would like you to take a look at tyranids next.

  • @progeniesofthetoiletpaperh6433
    @progeniesofthetoiletpaperh6433 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Luetin: Logistical nightmare
    Guilliman: Did someone say Logistics??? excel premium intensifies*

  • @matthewchristoforou5324
    @matthewchristoforou5324 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I'm always more interested in aeldari/ drukhari lore so what i want next is obvious. But i'd be curious to know what you think the end game for them would look like apart from the obvious "slaanesh bad"

  • @dominic7868
    @dominic7868 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Luetin comin in hot for the weekend.
    Things I’m interested in:
    1. What’s stopping (or can stop) the tyranids from total domination given a long enough timeframe?
    2. What are the different ways (if any) can the Emperor return to Glory?
    3. Can Batman take the Emperor with prep time?

    • @LunarLocust
      @LunarLocust 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      1) the emperor
      2) the emperor is glory incarnate, heretic
      3) no, but he could probably take a sororitas

    • @komiks42
      @komiks42 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@LunarLocustI honestly see batman trying to reson with them, then realising he is screwed.
      Might survive it though, he ain't dumb, but his plan might fall.

  • @Captainball439
    @Captainball439 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for putting in the time to do this Lutien, you sir are a legend !!!!

  • @foliss7575
    @foliss7575 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Necron blackstone pylons around the Eye of Terror weren't there to contain the Eye, they were there to contain the Aeldari Empire . . . . It was basically a defensive line around their most threatening opponents before they went into slumber. Wether they were actively used during that period is largely irrelevant since the point of the slumber was to wait for the Eldar to weaken, and then fracturing a weakened opponent with rings of null zones would be a fantastic long term strategy. That these defenses caught the EYe of Terror seems more like a happy accident to me than anything else.

    • @komiks42
      @komiks42 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I see it as necron realising the danger of warp, and deciding that they should plan against it.
      Was is Eldar that they feared might unleash it? Or annyone else? Dosn't matter, it might be a problem in the future and better to have plan against it.

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Our world would be on a whole new of chaos if 40k warhammer shenanigans got into our world

    • @ragnarian
      @ragnarian 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which chaos god would reign supreme on earth do you think?
      I'd guess slaanesh, people, especially these days, are far more selfish and chasing that next minor thrill
      Nurgle might be too icky, but people might turn to him for protection if there were disease outbreaks
      Khorne would do well, lots of hate between loads of groups religious, ethnic, racial, cultural, national and more
      Tzeentch might be middling, it would require a lot of effort to become a sorcerer, and it still comes with risks (possession, mutation, chaos spawn), but magic has that cool factor that could draw people in, and the weak might see tzeentch as a way of gaining power and strength if physical strength is not possible

    • @joseestevezhernandez558
      @joseestevezhernandez558 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ragnarian Tzeentch middling in nowadays? Nah, not at all, deceit, hope, lies, manipulation... The worldwide political panorama is nowadays an umfathomable tribute to The Changer or Ways

  • @Patterrz
    @Patterrz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Chaos would be bored as sin if they won honestly

  • @ardentdfender4116
    @ardentdfender4116 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was watching another my favorite content creator on TH-cam while scrolling thru my feed, saw a new Luetin09 video was up and was like “Hell Yea” and did a warp jump to the video. Man, you got that kinda effect on people with these vids.

  • @vid101.
    @vid101. 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There are around 50-200 bilion star systems in the 40k galaxy, controling even 1% of that would be an insurmountable task

  • @FroFTW85
    @FroFTW85 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Luetin talking about original narratives. I'm honestly surprised he hasn't been approached by GamesWorkshop to write an official lore book. He is literally THE lore master on YT.

  • @DeathClassic
    @DeathClassic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What about speculating whether or not the Emperor could be a Chaos God and or/ will become one

    • @aliushali6352
      @aliushali6352 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      this would be interesting. i mean he could be malice.they kinda have things in common,like wanting to kill the other chaos god,he has saints(demon princes), legion of the damend could be his demons,he is empowered by worship and sacrifice. if this is not the case,he could be ome a god with all the sacrifice and worship he got over 10k years

    • @DeathClassic
      @DeathClassic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@aliushali6352 Exactly my point. A lot of people say he will become a chaos god with all those sacrifices and worshippers when he comes off the throne

  • @mesajongte
    @mesajongte 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Luetin, you are so precious! Never stop doing what you do best. I play your videos to put me to sleep but it has an adverse effect. Your words are so enthralling that my mind is fixated on it and I become more awake.

  • @brookechang4942
    @brookechang4942 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Me: "Man, I could really use something long-form to chill this afternoon."
    [Luetin has entered the chat]

  • @mrchubman101
    @mrchubman101 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As impossible as it is considering the numbers involved but what if the harlequins and ynari were successful in their goals. Even more so with necrons as both would have serious implications mostly on chaos in one case destroying slanesh and the second fully separating the warp from real space and we have no idea what issues that would exactly cause on both sides of the warp.

  • @Obiwan7100
    @Obiwan7100 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This raises an interesting question, Warp exists in other galaxies such as Andromeda or the Pinwheel Galaxy, in addition these galaxies share the same Gods of Chaos and each one has its individual, this would make a great video.

    • @Luetin09
      @Luetin09  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Andromeda Galaxy you say. Funny you mention it.

    • @cosmictreason2242
      @cosmictreason2242 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In Andromeda from whence the nids came, there is only Khornesh: he who hungers and thirsts to kill and consume

  • @zubairnoor9535
    @zubairnoor9535 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As always I like these thought exercises. I like the story telling more tbh. But as always, really appreciate your effort in research and narration.

  • @bigmatthews666
    @bigmatthews666 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for your content i have been watching for awhile and its because of you i started getting audible books for WH40k, i have only done about 12 books so far 😆

  • @mylesjohnson7351
    @mylesjohnson7351 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It says in the new core book that the living in the imperium is the worst existence imaginable but I feel like if chaos would be far worse some people in the imperium have horrible fates done upon them but if chaos ruled that would be the norm

    • @maltheri9833
      @maltheri9833 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I don't follow. Life in the Imperium is the norm it just depends on which country you are depends on what they'll require from you. Chaos would simply reduce you to the most torturous and demonic tortures in existence without relief and dying would only be damning your soul as a plaything. There wouldn't be any Ws to be had in a Chaos ruled Imperium

  • @some_shitposting_idiot3023
    @some_shitposting_idiot3023 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    are we forgetting that in lore chaos canonically has conquered entire realities? and that in the grand scheme of things the 40k galaxy really isnt that important to chaos?

    • @magicstew45
      @magicstew45 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You have references for that?

    • @Anj28t
      @Anj28t 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think you may be confusing 40k with Warcraft

    • @caiohenrique1603
      @caiohenrique1603 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      no bro, the forces of chaos originated from the races of the galaxy, you might be mistaking 40k with something else

    • @caiohenrique1603
      @caiohenrique1603 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      however, what is more important to them is control over themselves, there is always an ongoing war over dominance over the warp between the chaos gods

    • @foxnut13
      @foxnut13 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's for Fantasy WH

  • @michielmeeuwisse1282
    @michielmeeuwisse1282 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Really cool idea for a series, cant wait to see the others.

  • @josh198599
    @josh198599 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    After the revolution, who's going to clean up the corpses on Monday?
    Robute Guilliman - Probably

  • @Spideryote
    @Spideryote 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Luetin sleep club where we at 🙏

  • @rijadsabic
    @rijadsabic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Don't know about other factions, but Chaos for sure will never succeed in ruling or conquering the Imperium. Because within the Imperium there is force more chaotic than Chaos gods, force more hectic then Eye of Terror, more complicated than any Tzeentchian scheme and that is Adeptus Administratum. Sorry Abbadon but you are missing one paper, denied, get out.

  • @DarcNoodles
    @DarcNoodles 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this. lore speculations about domination of the galaxy. I look forward to many more of these.

  • @Rift2123
    @Rift2123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    more of this yes please i like the idea of taking the factions to the logical conclusion this has great series potential

  • @lonstrickland6571
    @lonstrickland6571 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent!! Friday night with a new Luetin video and a squad of heavy intercessors to paint…

  • @theconnorwarman5138
    @theconnorwarman5138 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really enjoyed this topic, please explore it more!

  • @shmeeeeeep8797
    @shmeeeeeep8797 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love it love it love it! Asurani/Aeldari next. How could they possibly build back to galactic dominance?

  • @mlodikk
    @mlodikk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lore for the Loremaster. Books for his shelves. Let the galaxy learn!!!

  • @Eternalsgate
    @Eternalsgate 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve been waiting for the emperor ….. finally ! Thank you for great content as always. After long night at the bar I can settle and watch something

  • @andresvargas7650
    @andresvargas7650 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Luetin! I can’t wait to get home from work and listen to this! Thank you!!

  • @amanthatlikesfromsoftware
    @amanthatlikesfromsoftware 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video Luetin. I watch your videos when I practice my drum rudiments.

  • @_Ethereal420
    @_Ethereal420 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of the best in depth videos on this subject.

  • @StraightUp_Mikey
    @StraightUp_Mikey 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really looking forward to your own creative narrative you’ve been hinting at.

  • @mattwilson3516
    @mattwilson3516 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really good and would love to see more and could you make a video about the Tyranids. I know that the answer seems quite obvious but I would like to see your perspective especially with some strange planets that are controlled by the tyranids and not just consumed like the lighthouse like thing in the octarius sector

  • @RawbDawggin
    @RawbDawggin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting concept for a new speculative series, always thought about Chaos domination myself, but to be honest I am more interested what the Necron and Tau (lmao no way) would like if they achieved galactic dominion over the Galaxy. Tyranids I feel like would be an obvious dead barren galaxy with a force vastly stronger than what they had previous arrived with, the Ork boyz would get bored and start fighting each other for shitz n gigglez, and the Eldar would either implode the galaxy or have the massive task of re-terraforming the galaxy. Great piece overall Lore Master, the ALGO BECKONS!

  • @jwb_666
    @jwb_666 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just got home, sitting down to have dinner, your timing is perfect!
    Also the answer to the title is obviously a Utopia

  • @BigRedFatGuy
    @BigRedFatGuy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't know what I'd do without these vids, much love lore master❤

  • @bryanbrown5886
    @bryanbrown5886 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's always Christmas morning when there is a fresh Luetin drop to listen to several times in a row lol 🎉😊❤

  • @sampsqwantch4612
    @sampsqwantch4612 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ayy just got out of work its like almost 11 at night and this notification was staring at me my whole shift 😂😂😂 glad to finally be able to watch now lol

  • @connormccool9984
    @connormccool9984 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a thing to open TH-cam to after a few beers, it’s the unexpected ones that are the best 👌

  • @krystoferbelknap806
    @krystoferbelknap806 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't think I've ever even SEEN a 40k model, but holy hell is the lore up my alley...

  • @ShahbazBokhari
    @ShahbazBokhari 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent.
    Even though not a single thing over the last 20 years has ever made me see Chaos as anything but being anathema to civilization and yes, Evil, I always welcome an hour of lore rambles.

  • @AliRadicali
    @AliRadicali 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the most succinct way to describe Slaanesh is as the chaos god of temptation and excess. Of the four chaos gods, I think Nurgle and Tzeentch are harder to summarise briefly. Temptation and lack of moderation leading to one's corruption and downfall is a tale as old as time, everyone can grasp that concept readily.

  • @pedromiguelesparzagarcia2694
    @pedromiguelesparzagarcia2694 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You help me with me sleep problems, so many thanks. I will listen the video full today.