Why Does Everyone Hate The New Can Ams?
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- Can Am just released a new model Outlander 500/700 for 2023. There has been a huge backlash from Can Am Diehards that it is a single cylinder engine. BUT the chassis is all NEW.
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I get exactly why they did this. I just sold my old CanAm not too long ago and was looking at getting a Grizzly 700. Now I’m very curious to see the new Outlander 700xt in person.
As someone who owns both, (though the Pro XU, not the XT)it out performs my Grizzly in every single way, from comfort and rideability to power and tow capacity. It’s also far more comfortable than the Grizzly. I still love my Grizzly, but it’s definitely become a back-up/wife and friends quad.
I'm excited for the new platform. The xmr 700 looks great! I'm sure they will keep the 850 and 1k. I can't wait for them to update them too.
I hope so too!
I love the single cylinder better. Lowww range torque. I have the 450 canam max for my wife expected it to be a slow turd. I was wrong. It’s a beast.
Ditching the v twins but I get it. But my only issue is the rear suspension. The swing arms are what made them so great over everything else
Ya the rear suspension change is a big one
them and CF moto were the only ones with trailing arms that i know about and its an awesome setup. cf moto only offers it on the 800 and 1000 so can am seems to have kind of gone there way to since i assume the can am 850 and 1000 still has them
@@Dreamscythe1 I think they did it so they could pull in new customers but still offer the option on the upper tiers. And if the TTI was so phenomenal, why has no one else other than CFMoto ever even tried it? It was not a major factor in my choice of Can-Am. Neither was the twin set-up.
@@Dusdaddy they haven't tried it cause at that early time there were patents involved and the rest of the manufacturers have been updating the same design for many many many years and OEMs are often hesitant to completely redesign their platforms. It's got nothing to do with one design being "better" than the other, there are pluses and minuses to both designs.
@@romper4444 My point is that TTI is not that much of a game changer on the mid-level quads. No real advantage. Racing the Baja? Different story. And the 850/1000 exist for that market. Patents are not that controlling. Honda had a trailing arm set-up from the beginning, just not independant. And look at the Polaris McPherson, just a way to market "different" not necessarily "better".
Let's face it, the only two remarkable things that Can Am had going for them were the V-twin and the TTI rear suspension. Now you can only get those things in the 850 and 1000. Too bad.
I have a 700 xmr and coming from a grizzly 700 it's AMAZING
@@Ztofnot saying they arnt better then the competition. They just don’t hold a candle to the tech of the G2 chassis
Complete nonsense. The HD7 XU is easily the best atv in its class. It blows anything Yamaha, Honda, or kawasaki in that class out of the water
Can-Am, AC, and Polaris have fantastic quick attach systems. I fortunately Polaris and AC have pissed the bed with supporting them. Can-Am however keeps rolling with LINQ and that's great. I really liked the new chainsaw mount option. Genius and 30 years overdue.
I like that as well but my complaint is that they made it so you must remove the cover of the waterproof storage to use it. Then cut a hole in the bottom of that. Could they not just go to the outside to retain the storage? Because of that, I will build one that mounts on the bumper like I did last time.
Overall, I think this was needed to compete with the other big-single machines and to have something that is likely more reliable in addition to having a lower entry cost. I bet the manufacturing will save some money in the long run too. Personally, I think the 500-700 single is more than enough for most people. An affordable class with reliability and more competition against the other manufactures is welcomed. Perhaps, Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki will do a nice refresh in the next few years.
Well said!
Nailed it. I just wish it wasn't so damn heavy.
@@Dusdaddy100% agree!!!
I see the value in producing a less complicated engine to combat pricing wars with new players in the market. I also have always been a fan of the fact can am offered smaller bore twins. sad to see them go
I hear ya...
I think this product was launched to compete with CFMoto. At that price point they are competing directly against Cforce 600 machines that have been exploding in popularity, enticing people with their great value. They were cheaper than other brands yet came with additional add on's like a winch, hand guards and all LED lights. With its 580 cc engine putting out around 41 hp and retailing for $9,999.00 Canadian dollars. Until now Can Am didn't have anything that could compete in price. Now they do and I think they will do well.
I use a 470 outlander for work. And it's a great machine, great low end power, quick little machine. Then i got to use the 570 vtwin outlander and it was really nice. Im not mudding but i go through 50ft deactivations for logging roads and it goes through them no sweat. But the 800 struggled to get through em. I was suprised, they must be geared out different.
Yes a single cylinder always has great low end torque. Properly tuned clutches makes a world of difference!
I absolutely love them. People think they replaced the entire line up. They didn’t. But I’m definitely in love with theses. I want a 2wd 500.
Nice!
This model is clearly after Honda customers. Someone who was going to buy a 2wd rancher or Foreman will get one of these instead. A buddy of mine had an old 2wd Yamaha Kodiak 400. That thing took a beating and had more power than you’d think and my buddy was a pretty hefty guy, well over 300 lbs. Even dragging him around, it would easily do 55 mph.
@@gregrowe1168 Best part of the 2wd? Can-Am gets to say they sell a quad for less than $6K!
@@Dusdaddy That’s something considering the price gouging that manufacturers have done since the covid “pandemic”. Prices have been artificially inflated since then. 6k now would probably be equal to 4k in 2019. I remember when you could buy a Grizzly 700 for 6k and it wasn’t that long ago.
@@gregrowe1168 That's my beef with Yamaha: I paid $6500 for a 700 Grizz. The new one is $12,400 and it's the same damn motor! Nothing has really changed but almost twice the money? Sorry, I'm moving on Yamaha, the value just isn't there anymore.
Put a order in yesterday for a camo 700 pro. It was Either Outlander or a Grizzly. The Big Bore Single 700's seem like the way to go for any Brand of ATV, For all of us that don't want endless power and want Simple Practicality. I do want 50hp
Dan, I'm 100% with you. I think that Hunter checks all the boxes and I already have an older 700 Grizz. Great grunt, awesome storage, comfortable set-up (so they say), skids, and very usable features. I was looking to upgrade to a new machine and was shopping for the Grizz but this Hunter is like $2k cheaper when equipped the same as a Grizz. Leaves a lot of money for add-ons. Tires most likely.
Did they give you any idea or estimate of when it would come in?
June
@@dankruger2890 Damn!
I haven’t seen anyone who hates them. We love singles for reliability. The xmr700 (650) has a gear reduction so it should be great
There’s a comparison video with this and the new grizz.
It beats the grizzly in every way.
Hard to deny it. Its my next atv, and I’m a Yamaha fan
Interesting, like a head to head comparison?
@@ADVENTURESThisWay yes it’s on TH-cam
I have a 2023 450 outlander, so far it works great. Its a single cylinder, so it doesn't waste gas, and it has plenty of power for mudding, or trail riding.
I hear ya, I started with a Yamaha 450
I sold my ‘18 can am outlander 650 max for a ‘22 Yamaha Grizzly. Main reason was that 16000km on a can am equates to ridiculous amounts of repairs and maintenance. One year in and 5500 km later on the Grizzly and I’m only out a couple oil changes and front brake pads. On occasion I do miss the extra hp from the larger v-twin but little to no maintenance and repairs are a great trade off. Perhaps I will consider the Outlander 700 in another couple years but once more real world testing on reliability has been done. But for now, after riding a Yamaha for a year, they got it right.
Grizzly is a proven platform, no question. IF they ever put that 850 in it, could be the best overall ATV.
Can't really argue with that. A Yamaha is easy on the maintenance budget for sure. My beef with Yamaha is that they haven't done crap to improve or even try to improve the design since '08. I know, as I have an '08. New center headlight? Hate it, they just reflect on anything mounted on the front rack. And the bar/seat layout is uncomfortable. I had to install Rox risers. If they would offer some accessories or options or even camo but they seem to just not care anymore. And now, they are $2k more than the 700 Pro which has more power, travel, clearance, a wealth of options, etc.
I ride an outlander 450 in the hot desert and heat is the biggest issue, you'll burn your legs, get antifreeze on your shoes, and the fan will go so hard non stop that it will break. Buuuut, its an awesome and powerful machine. I have clocked 3500 miles on the stock CVT and tires!!!
Thanks for the info!
@@ADVENTURESThisWay Welcome! Coming from a reliability 1st person, Honda has taken me places I do not want my atv to break, but more notes on Can-Am: Fan has broken twice and no matter how hard it blows it will still overheat the "Engine Ice" blue antifreeze. I'm just going to put a front fan with a switch. 4x4 is stuck on, but since I ride full throttle hard often I can tell you this machine is made to be in 4x4 all time. Needles to say I am VERY impressed with reliability so far since I push it to its limits everytime which is why I enjoy smaller CCs. From servicing it myself I noticed how clean the oil comes out every time 100ish-hrs (Lucas Syn).
Maybe these new engines run cooler as well. They aren’t trying to squeeze more power out of a a smaller engine just to say they’re “class leading “. I’ve got an older King quad 750 with over 7000 miles on it and it has never overheated on me and I don’t notice any excess heat on my legs.
I have a 2023 outlander 450, now that u mention it, I have noticed my fan does run a lot.
Can’t wait to see the twin cam cylinder head on the 1000 V twin. I’ve heard rumors that they’re doing this in apparently it’s amazing.
News to me, have any more info?
What people don't understand is that Rotax engines are reliable.
Yes absolutely. They are used world wide in a variety of applications.
I wonder about the lube points and taking off of covers for servicing. My 2016 max xt 570 has 16 lube points and the covers are a pain! TY Well done!!
There is nothing to lube, and the side panels easily remove revealing everything. It is the easiest quad to work on.
@@stevew145 THANKS!!
riding a Can-Am 6x6 1000cc with tracks, in -11 degrees european scale. trough one layre of wool, spors pants and a work pant. i got darn hot and nearly burnt my legs on the side of that machine by the heat. Even in winter on the 570 its burning. Polaris is barely anyhting, witch is perfect for summer. but its nice with at least afew degrees in the winter
Its a real issue. Not as bas on the XMRs the CVT exhaust blows back through the header to help dissapate the heat
@@ADVENTURESThisWay yeah, hope its getting betther
The 650 twin was a great quad !! The new 700 single is just big and under powered from what everyone is saying
Yes 50 vs 62 HP is a big difference, but the new clutching should help
50hp is under powered?
@@todsimpkins8908 yes ! When you have a 90 hp quad
It’s basically what the Grizzly and King Quad have. It’s got them beat on price though. If you want more power and are willing to pay more, the 850 and 1000 models are still available.
@@gregrowe1168 I have a 2013 1k. !! I was just looking for a new body style and frame redo on the 850 and 1000
I think my main concern right now is, I was eyeballing a 600 2-up and adding the factory rad relocate and snorkels. And Can-Am has been great at cross model upgrades and compatibility. Which we know Polaris didn't do with the HL setup by using the old body style.
Using the build tool though, adding the snorkels to a 700 2up isnt an option. Or not yet.
I'd also like to know if the XMR can still have the saw mount being that it looked like the saw mount was off to the side, maybe clearing the rad?
Lots of these questions to be answered, time will tell
No saw mount for the XMR, according to the accessory page for the mount. A rad relocate for the new style will come along. You know the aftermarket guys will figure that out quick.
@@Dusdaddy for sure, but I don't like aftermarket solutions, I want an engineered to work solution. The big guys may only have a 6 month warranty for a mud machine, but at least you know its working on day one.
Aftermarket solutions won't even take a return in an unopened kit, and assuming you got it right installing it yourself, if it leaks from poor design or quality checks, your pooched.
So seeing the OEM options will be what I'm waiting for
@@EC_ATV_Outdoors True about aftermarket. The stock rad relocate will probably come with time. Just an FYI, the air filter and CVT intake are in identical locations between the 700 XMR and the other 500/700s. Both right under the console in front of the handlebars.
Surprised you didn't bring up the cfmoto they are on more an more trails an look good and the 800xc an 1000 overland are worth talking about
Don't feel bad...I think the CF Moto is fine but this was about the new Can-Am.
@Dusdaddy I know that... at the end he was talking about comparing brands. My comment was aimed towards the fact he didn't mention them.
I'm not interested in funding more spy balloons.
This is such a hype right now. Firstly never rode the 570 but have rode a 650. That said I love my 850 compared to a 650. For those that love them sorry they are gone. I know can am has kinda been the high dollar/ high horse machine for awhile. I’m sure this is simply a matter of marketing where they know they need to appeal to the customers that are looking for a soft landing in terms of price versus performance when on the fence about what manufacture to choose. Likely your gonna get what you pay for (that’s a fact of life) but I am genuinely excited to meet someone on the trail with some experience who is on a new 700 single so we can get some real feedback. I hope these machines are a success!
Just the number of comments on this video in such a short time shows the waves that these knew models have created. I like it. Stay muddy my friends!
Couldn't have said it better myself!
I think people are quick to forget that brp did the same thing with the release of the sea doo spark and that was like almost a decade and they have made a pile of money on sparks but you can still rock a 300 plus hp rxp. So I don’t think we need to worry.
@undergroundmafia8189 That's a great point! BRP will not go away from high performance models. Case in point the new Turbo Meth injection Turbo Trail sled
Main concern for me is the price in canada ! Saw the base 700 model at 18 000$ at a dealer in Winnipeg!!!! In us they are prices better but in canada they are 5k more
As far as price,my 650 v twin was about the same price,with 10 more hp,they are just giving you less power for more money
True, but a new platform at least, but it does have some positive design upgrades
I got 2023 Hd5 pro Outy and its enough machine for me for work/trails. They look much better in person,rides fine the seat is higher from ground i dont mind. Also no heat on legs u can ride all day barely any heat!
Great feedback!
They are targetng die hard Japanese riders like myself- I have been Honda fan and Honda for some reason won't build a capable Rincon with power steering and updated chassis- I was looking at Grizz and KQ750- now the Can Am 700XT is in my scope!
I like the look of them! New clutch is a big improvement
Same here. Honda most of my life but 2020 brought a yamaha wolverine x2 side by side to our stable and the wife and daughter love it. Its been very reliable and has me looking at a Grizzly to go along my Rubicon and Rancher. The CanAm 700 may now be in the race but the question is how is its cvt system compared to the legendary yamaha cvt? Time will tell I guess.
@spyder000069 don't forget about the king quad 750. I have one and love it. It has the smoothest cvt of any machine out there. It has roller bearings like this new outlander.
I can't argue with Grizz dependability as mine is 13 years old. But have you sat on a Grizz? I sat on a new one and the bar layout forces you up onto the storage box between your legs. I had to put Rox risers on my 08 to make it comfortable. Rox is constantly sold out of them even now. I sat on a Can-Am and it just feels great so I'm going that way. The $2k less price should help if I need "extra" maintenance.
Love the 23 max xt 700
I think the 700 should have a little more power
I dont think that's the point of it,
I think it's fine but you are right: If they gave it the same or just one HP more than a 650, what would everybody bitch about?...lol
Same HP as the Grizzly and its doing it with 650cc instead of the Grizzly's 686cc so its already punching above its class. Having higher HP numbers doesn't matter if they can't sell bikes and with inflation skyrocketing prices on parts and companies like cfmoto coming into play I think they see where the economy is going and are trying to keep pricing down so that they can still get a piece of the pie.
I like them I just don’t like the Frontend on the 2023 Outlander
I don't hate them, I haven't seen them in person, but I am glad I got one of the last 2023 570 XTs in the US! I am all set testing a new ATV engine!
Ya definitely need to see them with own eyes
They could have at least dropped the engine in the renegade chasis to fill the gap
So it’s like the new arctic cat. With the way they put there engine and exhaust. And it sorta looks like it too.
To a point yes, but these are designed way better than the MudPro with a rear transaxle set up
Disappointed to see them get rid of the budget friendly vtwin. That’s why people are disappointed. People know the 850 and 1000 are still available but they killed the 570. I was hoping to get a 570xmr later this year but I have no interest in the new 700.
Shop now, I was able to get a 2023 570 XT the end of last month. There are some still out there, and they are probably making them until they run out of the parts. I am in the USA though.
I’ll tell ya right now brother…there’s a good chance there will be one of those in the DO stable to go against the Grizz.
That, would be a great comparison to see!
Former 570 max owner, current 700 owner. Current 700 max owner,the list of improvements is long. A real upgrade for me!
thats great to hear!
At least on my 850 there's a culprit for the heat issue that's a stupid cvt exhaust location
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Got me a 1000r xxc outlander 2022.. rolled it 3rd hour.. heavy.. I'm use to a solid axle.. Gotta slow down now
Damn, ouch! That's the ATV I would have if I didn't have a Renegade!!
Just bought a new 700 love it. I haven't bought a brand new one in 20 years. 9200 out the door. Great value
That is awesome!
Nice! What model? Hows the ride??
@@duanesnow424 the 700 XMR.
Outlander 700 big single. Plenty of power but clutched where the kids have no problem with it.
Not for nothing Don….the writing was on the wall the single cylinder is cheaper to build
Time will tell! Also stream lining production as well. They already got ride of the 570 laat year
Personally I can’t wait to see one in person,I’m thinking that 700 single will be a torque and sweet trail machine
I would take one for a demo run
Last chance to buy a 570.
@@freddyw4555 570 was gone last year. It was a 650 detuned engine
I’m not in love with the fenders, front is way higher than the rear!
More room for bigger tires and NOT smashing the headlights?
Room for front storage.
I noticed that too and I don't like it. Might be good for big tires and high suspension travel, but it looks weird.
I wish yamaha made a legal two up
Not a huge canam fan, but i like this move. It seems like a smart way to get more people over to the brand.
That was my first thought
I fined the new xmr 700 in the front looks like the arctic cat mud pro 600 but all stick with my 2023 xmr 850 and 2015 xmr 800
Less power to weight than the older v-twins, just saying “oh the 850 and 1000 are still available” is a cope some people don’t want a 1000 pound machine that’s really hard to get unstuck and hard on the terrain if you actually use it around your property and it’s not like the old 650 v twin lacked necessary torque
I think the fear is that yeah, the big twins are still available but, that this is phase 1 of getting rid of them. The new ones are designed with no v twin and a front fender area frame tube that would get rid of foot well swapping to add bigger tires. You could argue "Can am wouldnt stop selling thier money maker" but i would counter that with money has nothing to do with it. Just look at the electric push going hard with the lies of it being better for environment. Getting a piece of the japanese market pie is fine (at 890lb for a 700 XT ill pass and get a much lighter grizzly/kq) but a phase out of the quads people want with the big twins is another.
They still have the monster mud machines. Hopefully they still do when my boy grows up a bit.
It’s actually a few pounds lighter than grizzly at 740 pounds
@@woodenyasayso3101 The canadian brp website says 890lb est dry weight for the 700 xt on my phone. If its a typo then I might consider it over a grizz but would come down to time telling if pdrive is better than ultramatic plus reliability but at 890 no way.
They are not going to get rid of the big bores...
Weight varies by model. Bigger tires and winch add some significant pounds.
@@ADVENTURESThisWay I hope you are right but I wouldnt be surprised if in a few years they are gone.
There is no way that single cylinder 4-stroke engine is in a snowmobile.
Never said that specific engine in a sled. The ACE technology, which the 500/700 is has been in sleds for years...
They look like they tried to copy Hondas looks. I guess these are basically the new L models with a different name. The same displacement but different power was copied from Polaris. I think the price will be the biggest selling point. It’s crazy to think 8k is a bargain now but compared to similar powered models from everyone else, they are cheaper except for cf moto.
It definitely runs a lot cooler around your legs And the new chassie design is much better than the gen 2
I'm loving my new 2023 XMR 700
That was a big complaint, for many. Hot legs and melting plastic!
I like them
Everyone hates them because we’ve been waiting for can am to I o age for the first time in 10 years and they do and make a shitty single cylinder atv that’s ugly and underpowered. They can’t even make a short wheelbase outlander xmr 1000. And what are you talking about it’s light weight?? My brute force 750 weighs less and it’s a 749cc duel cylinder with more power
Single cylinder, less power the new 700 is 50hp my 650 was 62hp , had less vibration, a big mistake by Can am in my opinion.
I actually really like the new 700xmr outlander it looks good and looks like it has a better snorkel setup
Its interesting
Great video. I truly think all the negative is purely because "it's different". Not a single commenter has ridden one, but they already know it's a failure. Hard to understand.
Well said!
I'll need to see the actual weight since they show such a huge spread between relatively similar models, but (apart from maybe weight) it seems they're putting out something very comparable to a king quad 750 or grizzly 700 for a whole lot less money. I'm really interested.
@@hinnmanfamily All the weights are out. And there are 10 different weights! From 718lbs for the 2wd to 893lbs for the Max XT. Odd one, XT (858) weighs more than a Max DPS (785).
@@Dusdaddy I've seen the estimated dry weights on Can Am's website, but have a hard time believing the xt would weigh over 100lbs more than the DPS, so I'm waiting on ready to run weights from reviews in case one or the other is a typo. 750 lbs isn't bad, but 858 is.
@@hinnmanfamily By the way, a KQ is 720lbs, a Grizz XTR is 783lbs (wet), and this 700 Can-Am XT is 858lbs(dry). Pretty big differences. I ordered the Pro Hunting model and that weighs 826lbs.
I like it , I think the xmr will be a good four wheeler
I hate the new outies bc there a lower end motor on a long frame and the two up is an extra long frame it looks ugly
i think they look awesome!
I think they waited a little too long to release smaller bikes back out again
Ya not much attention given to update the ATVs in recent years. SxS have been the focus
I'm with you more I look at them, the looks have grown on me. The one thing that I can't get over is that windshield accessory, that really is hideous. Can't wait to see some trail reviews on these.
Same, not feeling the windscreen
I think it looks just like a Honda. Maybe done a bit on purpose, these will definitely eat into Hondas sales for years to come.
Any windshield on a quad is hideous. But if needed, function is all that matters.
People have no idea what really keeps Can Am at the top. It's money. Not an 850 XMR or Renegade 1000 XMR or the fastest XXC they offer. It's money. And the money is made on these types of machines because they're affordable and get the job done. Can Am's highest selling model would be the Outlander XT or Max XT. In my experience, it was the 570 XT or Max XT.
Oh absolutely, volume of sales = $$
Exactly....because these satisfy 95% of the market. Why are there more Camrys sold than Corvettes?
Yeah but Yamaha is coming out with a new 1000cc ATV with the wolverine engine out of the side by side.
I'm aware, it will be interesting if they actually bring it to market.
I’m really looking forward to seeing how this machine performs on the trails! I do like this model to the point where I thought about getting one.
But, I know what I want and that’s not going backwards in power.
Ya it's tough once you feel the Power!
both the 5 and 700 use the same 650 cc engine.someone will quickly come out with a tune for it.
they are both 650 singles with different cams
Yep cams and ECU tuning differences
@@ADVENTURESThisWay This should make parts cheaper since you should be able to cross parts between the two
they did the same BS with the traxter - confusing numbers on FALSE ccs- WTF ?!- and funny is- arctic cat started with this last year - evryone was complaining about their new single- and now- canam is following haha
The single is not the issue with the Arctic Cat, its the rear transaxle design, junk.
I don't think BRP follows anything Textron does. Its the other way around...SNOWMOBILE lawsuit ring a bell?
@@ADVENTURESThisWay man- cant agree- have 3 arctics . my 650single got 20.000kms on it- theyre better then you think- believe me....😄🤩my friend got a 850 outy and its a beast-cheers
@@izom Dude, I'm not bashing the old Arctic Cat. Had several of their sleds...however the older A/C ATVs used Suzuki engines, that's why they lasted. The newest versions, time will tell. And the only very few A/C ATVs that I have rode with in the last few years all broke stuff, each ride. But they still finished the ride at least.
I predict this model will just be a “filler” for the gap between gas and Can Ams switch to electric. This will be the model nobody wants. The chassis of these will be the same with the electrics. They just ran out of Rotax engines and had to stuff something in them for the time being until the electric motors really start production. So glad I have my 22 570 XMR.
What are you talking about, nostradamus ?
The engine used in the new generation is a Rotax HD7 (single cylinder version of the ACE engines found in Ski-Doo which has proven its reliability over the years)
i'm trying to get my mitts on a '23 outlander pro hd5 or a '22 570 and can't seem to find either.looks like i'll have to order and wait.dealers seem to be very reluctant to stock a base machine.i want to add what i need,not what the dealer thinks i need.
Yes that's always a good option. Hopefully new stock will be available soon
@@ADVENTURESThisWay i stopped in to the local can am dealer this afternoon and ordered a red base 500.should be here by months end.most of my spare Honda side by side parts should fit.i have a brand new set of 14" alloy rims and 28"carnivores and a set of stage 3 Elka shocks.not sure if the shocks will fit till i get the machine,but the honda and can am both run 4x137 rim bolt patterns.also have a warn 2k lb winch collecting dust.all i need to order are better bumpers.
@@edwardcote1331 Right on, look forward to hear who you like it
It's ugly and they got rid of the option of a smaller twin motor for people who didn't want the 850 or 1000... plus I like the tti
Agreed, except the ugly part.
Ive never been a can-am guy, luv the v-twin power and sound but the price is to high.
Can-am just changed all that. The xmr700 has everything done to it that needs to be done to the cfmoto 800/600/other brands. I have been shopping around. Everthing is snorkled high and dry even if you dont deep mud… and the ultra low gear with stock 28” tires !!!
Thumb’s up to can-am. Now just offer in other color but red! Lol
I kinda like the red!
I hate the new short seat and back rack design. If you want to haul somebody you’re screwed. I can’t stand a 2up ATV
I hear you, but a single seat ATV isn't designed to carry 2 people, bad things can happen. Especially going up hills...
Your Polaris you had, was that second hand? Also, you did a lot of modding. Curious what you opinion I. Having another would be if you just ride normal trails.
I liked my HL, and my wife and I go trail riding on our touring, which is very comfortable.
It was used but was basically brand new. The problem with them even for serious trail riding too many worn parts too easily
That true old better than new one. I had my dad first owner and me 2 owner now old sportsman 500 4x4 1996 like keep up maintenance fluid or grease or oil change only front end issue few parts but not bad.
i put a deposite on a 2023 xmr 570 they havent ordered it yet .. wonder if i should ask to swicht to the xmr700 or keep going with the 570xmr since it has the detuned 650cc vtwin im just not sure about the rear suspension yet on the 700xmr looks like grizzly a arms lol
That's exactly the same as ours. Can't go wrong with!
@@ADVENTURESThisWay oh i know trust me ive been wachting every video u posted about that 570 seems like a real nice machine! i know its not a 1000r but how do u find it for a 570? i like that its a smaller chassie
@@shawndoucet4751 oh its fun to ride
@@ADVENTURESThisWay anyway we could see a video of u taking it out in the snow and try to give it the beans! haha
The 500/700 marketing is really disingenuous by saying “its a 500” they are comparing a 650cc engine to something like a Honda foreman 500 which is in a completely different class of engine, a 150cc difference is like comparing a can am 450L vs a Honda recon 300 its not even comparable of course the bigger bike is going to put out bigger numbers. But even a Polaris 570 makes 44 horsepower and can am is offering a 40hp model with a 650 engine is ridiculous for can am whose marketing is about running circles around the competition
I think your comments should be directed to Can Am...
Idont care i even think its going to be a big seller i like it
Hey Don what’s happened to Richard from elemental atv? can’t find his channel anywhere now.
He shut it down
These models will take over soon
So far the word is they work very well
They are all outdated CF Moto is killing the game It looks being more updated. And pricing you can get 3 4wheelers for the price of two other brands.😂
They are decent, time will tell on their reliability
All I want to see is a drag race between the grizzly 700, outlander 700, and outlander 650. You'll see very clearly why everyone is upset
Brute Force 750 too. The outlander 650 beats them all but the Brute would be a close 2nd. It is a lot lighter than the Outlander.
That would be interesting
Yep, and an 850 shows up and beats everybody. Don't know about you but I don't drag race all day, kinda boring. Besides, my Grizz out pulls a 650 which is enough for me.
The single cylinder and double a arm rear suspension is a serious setback for can am. I own an 850 xmr and 570. The 570 xmr was a MUCH better value than the new 700.
We will see how it turns out..
Canam copied the Arctic Cat rear facing engine orientation. I love the new Arctic Cat. I ride that more than my 2022 canam.
And copied suzuki's cvt design. Which isn't a bad thing.
For me it the simple fact that I think the styling is ugly. I'm never going to buy one of these smaller machines so the motor thing doesn't really bother me as long as they don't carry it onto the bigger machines. Also not a fan of removing the rear trailing arms for A arms, another thing I hope they don't carry over to the bigger machines.
Interesting fact. I ran a poll with with over 500 responses. 56% like the new model and 44% don't.
@@ADVENTURESThisWay Yeah I don't doubt that many people like them but as someone that has been following this release closely, it is easy to see that Can Am has come out swinging with the influencers that they use to help push these, including the one you mentioned in your video. I put very little faith in influencers now a days since they are so easily bought.
@Bubba I hear what you are saying about promotion through influencers. Obviously it's best to get information from multiple sources.
But still, close to 50% said they DON'T like the new model, which is significant IMO
Have u ever tried the vampire ll tires
No never heard of them. Made by what company?
@ADVENTURES This Way interco
Did they make oil changes easy?
Great question!!
Filter looks easier to access.
I just don't like the look of them I like the 2020s
The rack on the back is useless now lol
Good video,,
Thanks for the visit
I don't hate them but I don't like the way they look but they stopped making the 570 so that's why I don't like them because I have a 570 and I am worried about parts
I'm sure parts will be available for a very long time
i keep hearing the ace engines are really unreliable, and have been especially bad in the side by sides. but i guess time will tell if they have been improved
First I've heard any negatives on the engine
Just the opposite bud, the ace has been a very good engine, with excellent reviews. Have never seen a negative comment on them.
Canam all the way
Looks like is cfmoto and artic cat had a ugly baby 😂
They don't
56% of people polled like the new chassis 44% do not.
they are way too heavy.
I dont like them cuz the look like an arctic cat now
I purchased 850 xmr 2023. Then wanted to get another in a 650 this year and they don’t sell them now. Stupid. WTF is can am thinking. Iam
Not buying crap in 2024 they came out with now. Lost a sale dumb azzes.
The reason I bought a can am is because they were the only ones to offer a mid-bore V twin atv. Now that im limited to a single, Id rather buy from a different manufacturer.🤷
I dont know anyone who hates can am whatafuq is that video 😅
700 Xmr is junk
cheap ended up being cheap
dont buy!!!
Did you buy one???
biggest piece of junk i ever 2022 can am 570... i rode atvs my whole life.... these canam are junk
The can ams break easy…… if you want any reliability buy a grizzly 700
Not true look at the most grueling races on earth(Gncc, Baja hunt the wolf) all dominated by Can Am.