It already does... we just need to help muslims act like better Muslims.. we don't need a world government which will end up being oppressive and tyrannical anyway..
@@ahmadjuwayni6256 A human doesn't dictate what should be the Socio-economic-political structure looks like.. Allâh made Khilāfah Fard ul Kifayah then it should the priority of Ummah. Period. Dont make excuses or show Nifāq to run from Islām now.
Edit: Original title was along the line of "Should Muslims re-establish the Caliphate?" Yes we should, no need to over complicate a simple topic. It's time to start discussing how to go about it.
I don't know how to respond to a perspective like that of you. You are just one step away from the guys in Toyotas roaming around streets of raqqa and at mighty and costly and der*ng*d pipe dreams, achieved not a shred of anything that can be called positive or constructive. How can you be so detached from reality? Did you just finish watching your daily dose of p*rn and now decided to give your stale takes in the internet comment sections. 50+ countries and 1/4th of earths population and we can't do anything about a minuscule place like gaza. And if such a global political entity is possible, you already have an OIC or Arab League, which is just one step away from becoming a shura to a Caliph. It is always a great thing to have iman and have faith in the power of the creator, but my dude! You can't read a surah and decide to lift a mountain on your back, lol. Or you cannot have a dua and decide to jump from a plane. Now wonder if people have a phobia about people like you. I don't disagree with the idea, I think it is a noble one. But it is the people like you, detached from reality and high on blindfolded ignorance who often get to take initiatives, constructed by your almost non-existent grey matter, that is the sorry state of the Ummah.
I appreciate the discussion, they brought up good points, but what is very obvious from this discussion is the crisis of contemporary muslim intellectual capacity which offers no alternative view, they dont even define any clear criteria what makes a socio political project aligned with islamic monitheism vs what is not aligned, how do we even differentiate systems exactly, such questions are left blank or vague answers that is irrelevant to culture of modern knowledge. They are not able to see the link between the logic and metaphycs on one hand and socio-political constructs, nor can they see the link between tawheed on one hand and logic and metaphycs on the other. The crisis of muslims is we dont have scholars that are seriously working at the level of asool, we are only recycling at best, our muslim scholars have not actually studied the 'Modern Project' seriously at the level of asool, they have not worked on such inquiry, hence why our communities are completely preplexed. They continue to use old terms based on expired logic and metaphyscs, which renders these discussions meaningless at the end, its crucial to start taking our religioun intellectually serious.
At the end of the day, Dr. Hatem Al Haj made his point clear: he is content with the nation state as a concept for the Muslim world. He says so trying to wish wash his real intentions. Then he brings up arguments like having only one imam is a ijtihadi issue where you can be, as he claims, "flexible". Who decides then, if a state can be an independent state with an independent ruler? What if Iraq was split up in 3 parts with 3 rulers? Are all of them legitimate? If yes, then you accept that foreign powers determine the Muslim states ans their rulers. If no, you argument of having multiple Imams (ie rulers) is inconsistent. I would like both of you to debate somebody that is not from your stance (the so called middle). Debate Sheikh Mazin Abdul Adheem from Canada, Dr. Abu Talha Al Malkawi or any of these people. It would benefit the whole Muslim Ummah and everyone could make his own opinion afterwards. Just an idea.
Salaam! The shaykh's strongest evidence for his position is the history of what happend in the Muslim world from the time of the death of Hassan ibn Ali, and there was no mention of Ibn Taymiyya's statement on this issue in the book entitled, "The Political thought of Ibn Taymiyya " he said," the name of the Islamic authority is not the most important thing.What is essential is"al Kitabu hadi wa Saif an Nasir" the guiding book and the helping sword! In other words the Quran and Shari'ah and the power to establish and enforce it!
What is it that you don’t understand - “we should focus strengthening our relationship with Allah” what do you think the aim of living and working under Islam will achieve its part and parcel of the deen.
How else are the muslims in gaza meant to get protection from their oppressors? Imam is a shield. This imam is not sinwar, Biden or Sunak. We need to strive as much as possible for this cause. The fact that over an hour to give an answer shows what they stand upon. Bring someone who opposes your views.
Ottomans were never a shield for Egyptians or Palestinians. They were just plunderers and destroyers though modernists and ikhwanies consider them khulafa.
@@al-Baa7ith-3an-il-Ma3rifah Lmao, then change the Khalifāh if they implement Kufr but Zulm is not an excuse in Islām, just as you dont do in other stable systems. You consider Islām Framework based Khilāfah system to be worse than a Taghūti systems like Egypt, turkey, Saudi or other capitalist secular Jāhiliyyah. Such a shameful reasoning being a Muslim.
Please invite someone to the show how is competent in this field like Dr. Mohammed Malkawi or Mazin Abdul Adheem. It would be an insightful discussion for everyone.
No, they are not the biggest, but only keyboard warriors are doing something while others do nothing. Planning to do something is doing something, but doing something without any good plan is doing nothing :)
Was this program about HT ?? @ Yasir Qadi, if you are sincere, Why don't you invite HT and let them give the answers, instead of you incorrectly preaching the issue of Caliphate and creating confusion.
I am not a scholar to comment on whether they present the stronger arguments, but this talk demonstrates the importance of the learned speaking on topics like this (as opposed to laymen) because of all of the facets of this topic many of which I was unaware of.
There are differences. The Day is coming whether you want it or not. The khilafah will NOT come if we dont want it, which is where we are now. We have over 50 national republics and scores of monarchies. The majority accept kufr legal systems from tye West instead of Islam. Our leaders intentionally misguide us to go against the khilafah, as the Prophet (saws) warned us they would do near the last days.
I don’t understand why some Muslims don’t have confidence in the solution prescribed by Allah SWT? Working for Khilafah Rashidah based on any available opinions or your derived opinion is the task given from Allah even if you get it or not. Nobody says it is any utopia. Phew.
Allah gave the formula and we have to figure out how to implement that formula in our place and time. If the formula was enough, then why the rightly guided Caliphs used to sit in Shura with other Sahaba and discuss how to implement the guidance in the Qur'an and Sunnah?
Because Allah is too weak and useless and they know it. There is not a single Calipha that Muslims universally accepted so far. 3 out of 4 so called "Rashiuddin" caliphas were killed by their fellow muslims themselves. First guy only lived 2 years otherwise he would have met the same fate. So Muslims know All is too weak to give them a Calipha for 1400 years and they dont believe in Alla any more
Allah didn’t prescribed the so called caliphate it was just the name of the political movement after the death of the prophet and it changed to kingdoms later in modern times caliphate is the civil democratic system
You need to first remove the influence of the CIA and Mossad in North Africa and Turkiye. Second that would include identifying the false Royal families of Saudi, Jordan etc... Third, establish the United Islamic Republic with its capital moving between the capitals of each Republic member every 5 years. This body would be separate from the governance at the town/city, district, province levels and Would guide the collective GDP to strengthen the UIR's place on the world stage.
Shifting the capital shift every 5 years would be very counterproductive. There shoule be no problem centring the capital in Madinah, while maintaining a provincial capital in every 'Republic member'
Anyone with a Salafi background watching? I used to believe yq to be a deviant for so many reasons but that's ridiculous now thinking about it.. he's just being misunderstood by some simple minded folks like me
Lol, confuse the already confused with terminologies. Islam in times of peace is different and Islam in times of hardship, difficulty is different. You can’t bring food to me when my house is on fire because it is a Sunnah. You can’t do just acts of worship when what is happening in Palestine. Muslims (especially the imams, ulemas, muftis, faqis etc.) needs to do politics, bring in numbers, get the govts. To pass bills. No building in the world gathers more people then a masjid on a firday. This needs to be done in muslim countries atleast.
When we lose the fear of death When we put God first when we control our nafs When we lose the love for the world what we need is a spiritual awakening the promise of God is that Allah does not change a peoples condition until they dont change what is whithin themselves lets all unite upon haqq unity is the way and what will unite us is not thinking about our selves but about islam. Evil will be destroyed.
I find this scholer not pragmatic and able to grasp the reality we live in. We live in a situation that is oppressive for all humanity for muslims its become a key issue day by day to just practise their deen, the system that is upon us is of taguhot which is a great sin. Wether its Muslim countries or not its a law that is not of Allah swt. Politics and Islam cant be separated they go hand in hand most conservative muslim scholers have focused upon the individual actions of each other i.e. perfect your prayers and your spiritual aspect etc but ignore the collective and societal duties and whats happening around us as that is not where you just pray it is determined by performance according to the seerah of our prophet pbuh. This scholer seems to me very philosophical and not grasping the reality...look at gaza and all muslims how can we resolve these issues until we dont get rid of the corrupt regimes in muslim lands who do the work of their global masters whos deen is captilisim look how the jews with small numbers in terms of the global population have organsied themselves politically and placed themselves in key positions and within the financial structures which is why they have the world to their knees and do as they please despite the majority who oppose their actions. Muslim scholers need to address these issues and need to be more political in their sermons an talks and give the ummah the true solution from Islam not make them feel helpless and have the same concept as a yogi to close their eyes to reality and keep meditating and praying. As Allah invokes us to get up and do our bit first and then his help will follow but we need to wake up and if not realise now then we never will and be always lost woth scholers who just take things that need common sense and make them so complicated as how the jewish and Christian scholers had done.
why can not we unite under umbrella of Believing on Allah and his messenger ( PBUH) - don’t we ALL believe it? So let’s that belief UNITES us muslims. Gaza will not happen again the
So is hakimiyyah and establishing the laws of Allah entering into Rububiyyah, Uluhiyyah and asma was sifaat as the scholars have said is not part of aqeedah? You are mixing the proofs, the nullifer of Islam ﴿ وَمَن يَتَوَلَّهُم مِّنكُمْ فَإِنَّهُ مِنْهُمْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لاَ يَهْدِي الْقَوْمَ الظَّالِمِين﴾ is completely being ignored, how many atimes has Allah azzawajal warned us from taking His enemies as the allies?! Changing the shareeah in terms of ijtihaad of other than the ahkam of Shariah yes there are qawaid for such but otherwise it is kufr sareeh as the scholars say. No one cars about your humble opinion the deen of Allah is not deficient in any way shape or form and has been and is complete.
Perhaps the fact that every generation finds these Hadith of the end times directly relevant to their current happenings points in the directions of them being intentionally delivered or revealed in this manner to keep the fascination for the faith up and running and make it seem like an adventurous journey throughout Everyone’s life and across the generations.
Establishing a Caliphate is good and is needed to advance Muslim rights, perspectives and to protect Muslims. However we need to not romanticise the past Caliphates in think that under them the Muslims lived a fairytale Islamic life within the Islamic Law (Shariah). Even now establishing the Caliphate would not suddenly change the state of the ummah, it's lack of religiosity, it's economic power or military might etc. But with that said every Muslim should want its establishment and work towards that within their capacity. However this not an obligation to establish as no Islamic evidence suggest it is obligatory to work for or to establish. In fact many clear obligations take priority in establishment and calling towards before this Caliphate. Plus we can live and establish good firm Muslim minorities and Muslim majority countries without a Caliphate. But it maybe easier and quicker under a Caliphate. From looking at the seerah it seems Caliphate is established as a by product of the ummah being majority upright and religious. This issue is not one to split or argue over because that will certainly not lead to the establishment of a Caliphate and Allah knows best.
if we could live fine as minorities or well in Muslim majorities, then explain our situation in the last 100 years ... the fact is these "countries" are a direct byproduct of colonial take over of former lands of Islam and on top are in the firm grip of our colonizers because of their lackeys literally being put in positions of power before they left So then how can we seek to live under complete Islam in this present reality where the so called Muslim majority countries are ruled by iron fist? Easy to say each country should look to reform but there seems to be a clear disconnect in recognizing the actual roadblocks that ensure those reforms don't take place. The ruling elite are heavily entrenched and will stop at nothing to neutralize any such effort. As long as the elephant in the room, the power brokers, remains unchallenged, it does not matter how many individuals per say become pious. We are unlikely to witness a holistic revival. The ideal would be to have work done among the masses to build a collective understanding of Islam as a comprehensive system that can address our problems and have the sincere among the elite with means to create a ripple effect on board.
Why are we even talking if it is Sunnah or not. Does it really matter, in this day and age. If you and me both like football, we create a football club so other football enthusiasts can come along and we can have good time, and protect our common interest in legitimate way. If we all love Islam, and our prophet, should we not then have common khilafah or khilafahs that will be working towards a same goal??
Looks practical. Out of 100 Muslims, the so called strong Muslims who is capable to fight any regime to bring khilafa would be less than 5.. the other 95 Muslims can't bear the pressure of backlash in this path to bring khilafa.it is not just Iman, but also their socio economic conditions dont allow. So they can't be accommodated in the fight for khilafa. This 5 strong Muslims, is too miniscule to bring any change to achieve the goal of khilafa. If they still strive, it will be bitter for this 5 Muslims as well the remaining.. So better to work on some other agenda, that would accommodate at least more than 50 Muslims. Actually I should say in reality, if 1 such strong Muslim is amoung a 1000, it is a big thing.
YQ you keep trying to pretend through out this chat like you're "for" actively working for a khilafah but you speak not a single word about how we as the ummah are supposed to do this. And your whole focus on discrediting the impractical "zealots" who desire the khilafah shows which side you stand on.
It’s easy to live in an echo chamber Why not invite from those who call for the Khilafah? Given the situation around the Muslim lands, this discussion is not going away no matter how much you wish to belittle it. Your hand has been forced, that’s why you felt it important enough to address it The more people become aware of it the quicker your voices will be drowned out
Asalaamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakaatuh, what was the book Dr. Hatem recommended on Islam & Politics by Shaykh Nadwi? and also the book that Dr. Yasir recommends us to read towards the end? Jazak Allahu khayran
Painful as it was listening to these 2 brothers, pontificating with intellectual verbal gymnastic and sawing the seed of confusion and conjecture!! Let's keep this simple especially for these 2 "sheikh" brothers. Forget the topic of Khilafah, I think its obvious your not interested in it, while working hard to prevent the sincere Muslims from this intellectual struggle. How is it that you "sheikh" brothers feel so comfortable living in this kufr world order??? We ARE living under, kings, prince's, oppressors and dictators, so what should come next??? 😂
Ok. Having said all that, now who is my leader? I live in Australia, there’s so much disunity and mixed messages and so many affairs of the believers needs to be fixed, so who is my go to amirul mu’minin?
Understood, but the state of affairs with Muslims on the ground is desperate! What is the solution? Do we just simply sacrifice the current desperate situations and look forward to a better united future? Clearly, due to lack of unity all these happening. Are we just going to bite our lips and say “ unfortunately it was Palestine and Rohingya and uguir Muslims turn this time around to suffer and let it go?” I don’t see anyone or any groups taking any positive steps other than discussion like this from time to time and leaving it to that! Millions of Afghans/ Iraqi/ Syrians killed by outside forces, have we taken any steps after these atrocities collectively or as an individual nation to prevent future atrocities? The answer is no! hence current atrocities in Palestine. How much more time do we need for these spectrum of opinions to unite? These are the common questions from common people, clearly, I don’t want my family or my country to be next in the queue for another atrocity! Immediate action required to unify the ummah.
Allah will bring back Caliphate when Mahdi a,s arrives, so you guys cant make Calipahte ,becos all muslim world will regonize Mahdi a,s when army is swallowed in baida and they give him allience to become caliph
Great discussion, lacks specialization! With all due respect to two of my most beloved scholars: they both lack political specialization to pass on a judgement of what is feasible and what is not. You made some great points from a shari'ah stand point, but not so much when it comes to the pros and cons of the current nation-state/international order, and whether or not there is a political alternative. This discussion should be in the presence of a group of political scientists and current affairs analysts so the final opinion of our two beloved scholars would be qualified.
Why are you undermining khalafah to be not necessary (Waajib) I understand its not available right now and we can in the meantime be pragmatic but the necessary nature of it shouldn't be denied. Allahu Alam.
Timeline 1h28... those movements that don't encourage activity in working towards political Islam did not understand the life of Habeeb Sallallah hu alai wa sallam. This activism of Rasoolullah Sallallah hu alai wa sallam was discouraged by the Enemies of Islam (Quraysh). Hence, those movements who say "don't actively engage to reestablish the Khilafah" gives us an indication of whose agenda they are backing. Sad to say, but it does.
It's unfortunate that Sheikh Al-Haaj misrepresented Maududian thought because he's heavily biased towards Abul Hasan Nadwi esp his book of worries about "political Islam" although it's a misnomer to call it as such.
Most people want to establish their own version of a Khilafah. They don’t care if it will be ruled by Jahmies, Shia (like it was with Turkic/Kurdish/Persian dynasties of Egypt, Middle East, Central Asia and Hindustan) or whether it’s gonna be a modernist-ikhwani Khilafah like they are trying to create now under the label of “Turan”. The fact is Jahmi or Shia or Panturkists or modernists can establish anything but a real Khilafah. After the decline of Abbasids when they gave power to Ajamies, de facto the real Khilafah stopped existing.
We majority of Turks are absolutely against Turkısh involvement in any religious notion of khalifa. We are a democracy, we fought hard to get rid of the Arabist version of Islam. In Turkey men don’t have the upper hand, he can’t marry more than one woman, he doesn’t have the upper hand in getting divorced, etc. We want to keep it that way.democracy is the best representation of islam. As for your clear misunderstanding of the Turan is the union, which is not based on domination of any nation. It is the cooperation of Turkic peoples for mutual benefits. That should concern no one nor should it concern of any one but Turks.
Brother make sure you guys work to create unity among Habeshi Muslims. My understanding is that there is huge no of population but very disintegrated society
So just because attempting to create a global change such the establishment of the khilafah MAY and it will bring a backlash from the world and we will have to struggle and make sacrifices means we shouldn’t even attempt it!!! Shameful viewpoint from you sheikh … those working for the Islamic system - we work, are active in our communities, we are active in our Masajid because Islam dictates we live with the people and change their mindset ….
What have you achieved in Syria , iraq , Afghanistan , Yemen , libya , Pakistan by trying to establish khalifah? Only death and destruction ! And result would be same again.
Regarding the hadith of sneezing, I was surprised to hear it. I myself has always thought that when I confess something really truthful, I start feeling chills and ticklish around my face and my nose, causing me to sneeze. Sometimes I have really deep epiphanies and when I profess it out loud I start to sneeze. For example, one time I told this woman that I'm truly in love with her sincerely and I started to sneeze. I noticed this pattern of sneezing and confessing the truth that I started to Google the correlation and I found that there are other cultures who believe that there is a correlation and today surprisingly sheikh said there's a hadith that's possibly authentic to verify it too. It's amazing subhanallah and I personally wouldn't dismiss that hadith because I've experienced its truthfulness myself
Humbly request that representatives/members of groups that are actively working for the Khilafah are invited to discuss the matter since it is their expertise because the Ummah should come to know what are the various conceptions of it in our present reality and what is the road map those groups propose to get there. The matter is quite clear that it is fard upon the Ummah to have a Khilafah & Khalifah. The time is now to have robust discussions with those involved in the work for it and to let them address concerns the wider community/Ummah may have. Also I wonder how Dr. Qadhi & Shaykh Hatem reconcile their position of Khilafah being of lesser priority relative to the well established classical discourse which was quoted in detail in this discussion. It would also be nice to have follow ups with Shaykh Hatem if possible where he can detail how he envisions revival starting from Muslim countries in their respective ways when the entire configuration of nation-state model was designed to foster enmity, division and hatred among the Ummah by colonial powers that carved up Osmanli Khilafah & Mughal Sultanate. Even if we accept the premise that every Muslim country should strive for reform in line with the shar'iah, what would the Shaykh propose in terms of overcoming the deeply embedded foreign actors/entities especially the US & all its machinery in meddling with the affairs of the Ummah no matter the country. When you have a ruling elite loyal to the US & other Western colonial states how can we have representative governments & leaders? All this needs further elaboration and a clear, constructive road map so the Ummah can begin to have tangible solutions. The vicious ideological grip of capitalist nation-state model has ensured nothing but humiliation & oppression for the Ummah in the last 100 years since the fall of Khilafah. We don't have a single successful example where a representative leader came to power and successfully implemented the shar'iah because as Wael Hallaq articulates that the shar'iah is incompatible with modern nation state. So having a well thought out plan for this would be one way to provide alternative methods for establishing Khilafah.
Walaikumusalaam Wa rahmatullahi Wa barakahatuhu This discussion is of much benefit to the Ummah and the details provided are greatly appreciated, alhumdulillah. Thank you so much for explaining that the ideal way for good changes would be to begin at a local level by exemplifying Islam ourselves, seeking Allah (swt)’s guidance, aiming for Jannah, and attaining His pleasure. Jazakum Allahu khairun Aameen to the beautiful duas Barak Allahu Feek, Aameen Assalaamualaikum Wa rahmatullahi Wa barakahatuhu
Your whole argument against having one khalifa for the ummah is pragmatism, and based on ibn taymiyah's acceptance of a masiyah committed by a group, which resulted in having more than one Khalifah.
what does it mean to establish khilafah? doesn't it mean to establish justice and rule of law, where the law being the hadd, and those derived from Shriya's fundamentals? does it mean to enforce personal level ibadah, or does it mean enforcing ban upon personal level sins?
as far as I understand, establishing Allah's deen means in no way to enforce personal level bindings in any way. it's absolutely forbidden for the state to enforce Deen's personal level ahkam's on anyone. establishment of deen only means that there must be justice at state level, the judicial system will act according to the laws derived from Shriya's fundamentals when it comes to dealing with criminal actions.
Khilafah is a specific legal system. The furu' fiqh of Hajj exemplifies how the entire Muslim Ummah can be organized and to follow a collective will, intelligence, behavior throughout the hours of the day, day by day, for specific time periods. Setting aside national limitations, in theory every hajj could be 10s of millions performing in unison. The khilafah system as exemplified by the khulafa rashidoon provides the Ummah the way to reimplementing khilafah in totality and specificity, for The Cause of Allah. Remember, the Cause of Allah means: Divine Revelation of The Holy Quran, and Sunnah, supercedes human machinations.
I clearly understood what these sheikhs meant , it was a bit technical and absorbing video but still i agree with them If we try to establish Caliphate then we become Fifth columnists inside our own countries , we may bring upon ourselves Orwellian surveillance as the state may see us a perceived national threat working to undermine National security for establishing Caliphate Even if we establish a Caliphate hypothetically, we have to worry about its borders , separatism and secession more than implementing shariah
This is the kind of nonsense which plagues modern Islamic scholarship, the khilafah will come back into the world, most certainly, at the latest when imam Mahdi has appeared and Nabi Isa has returned. Anyone who is foolish enough to ignore this fact in the context of this discussion and tries to argue that it's not a certainty that the khilafah will be established once more before judgement day, is clearly not speaking with any intelligence.
[Quote] At the end of the day, Dr. Hatem Al Haj made his point clear: he is content with the nation state as a concept for the Muslim world. He says so trying to wish wash his real intentions. [unquote] اجتنبوا كثيرا من الظن ... .. . إنما الأعمال بالنيات ... .. . إياكم والظن، فإن الظن أكذب الحديث
I dont go for titles likley to be named Iesa or Mahdi but my name is blessed to be perfect and i only am satisfied with one title The Conqueror! All religions telling and prophecied about me and so also NOstradamus Michael.. Telling you all muslims it is time to reveal myself to the world.. We already live in Judgement Day or The Day of Ressurection!!!! Moi Carlo Sahebzad The Conqueror
So, according to the scholar here, the khalifa is the successor of the group. So if that were true, then the muhajiroon would have been okay to pick their khalifa and the ansar would have been okay to have their khalifah. No?
Not to be that guy, but can you PLEASE choose a warmer/darker color tone for the walls? You can go anywhere from monochrome to flat complementary and warm colors. Something that won't make the eyes bleed while watching 🙃
The many authentic Hadeeth on the Mal'hamtul Kub'raArmageddon mention the West will fight the Muslims under 80 Banners/Flags, each of them with 12,000 soldiers, the same Hadeeth never mentioned the Muslims coming under different banners, do you think the Muslims could take on a nearly 1 Million Army from the West without a United Khilaafah???
The Chapter The Believers in Quran المومنون verses 52-54 sums it up as only Allah can. The end reality is we are all tribal preferring our culture and traditions and holding on to the notion that they are the best. We may try to establish political Islam on a large scale, believing that we are following some model of the sahaba joining foces under the leader i.e. khalif, yet in order to expand and consolidate the system using the terms khaliphate كلافة/خليفة would necessarily assume that those implementing such would need to be "true believers." in order to have success through obedience to all that Allah and His Messenger ordered.
Turkey? Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatuAllâh wabarakatu dear Sheikh, You commented regarding Turkey. Then, you compared Turkey to Malaysia. You mentioned the leadership. Where is Turkey, & where is Malaysia, Singapore, Siam, Indonesia, China, Myanmar, Vietnam! Shall I continue insh'Allâh...?
The guest is miture enough to say that maybe i was right when i was young so to me that summarize it, khilafah will be established by young people. In sha ALLAH
There are tons of Dhanni/Speculative issues been applied daily such as many issues inside the Prayer, as the scholars in the past and present differ on them using many times the same hadeeth in different ways. Be careful!!! Go back to the scholars, make a Shoorah with a large group of them. Remember that it was a Turkish deviant scholar who convinced them to abolish the Ottoman Caliphate!
The famous hadith mentions, " “Whoever among you sees evil, let him change it with his hand. If he cannot do so, then with his tongue. If he cannot do so, then with his heart, which is the weakest level of faith.”. In the west, there are too many evil around us which we cannot even speak about, let alone change it with our hands. So what we do is hate it with our hearts, and thus, we are at the weakest level of faith. And yet, there is no "faith crisis" if there is no Khilafah when we all know that the only way to reach the highest level of faith (changing an evil with hand) is through Khilafah. سُبْحَانَ ٱللَّٰهِ
Askm All This is a great discussion. But i lije how SH. Yasir is able to put info in nuggets that as an awam am able to understand more easily while Sh Hatem, Sh Asrar are more focussed in quoting ref-obviously important but we lose the chain of thought and thus not able to get the full picture, definitely it wd be of great help to scholarly researchers... My 2 bit, instead of having a partisan debate, the objective of the ppl for Khilafah is a solution to the current imbecilic situation dragging tge concerned ppl down without a roadmap. Its important tgat such great minds shd come together and come qith multiple possible proposals could be multiple and probably counter to eaxh other in superficial way but could lead to a confluence over a period of time... One question to ask is wd such a quest be tolerated in the west, bcoz obviously it wd be highly stifled in muslim countries
Moins de dollérités pour vous Dr et frère Baajour aussi. Plus+ de roupies, de shekels d'aqsa, de roubles de grozny ou du pain et de l'eau de madina en quantité ou autre fortification de constitution islamique. Je vais regarder plus tard in shaa allahou.
in this time, one solution may be, the existing governments of the separate Muslim countries are to give allegiance under a single Person who be called as the supreme leader of the United Muslim League. who would have the power to dismiss a govt if they doing injustice and on the basis of respective country's huge population's complain, under an unified constitution. and he would be removed and replaced through the vote of no confidence by the majority number of country's governments.
Oh, what a delightful fantasy we've stumbled upon! Imagine, if you will, a world where all Muslim-majority countries surrender their sovereignty to a singular, omnipotent "supreme leader." Yes, because clearly, centuries of diverse cultural evolution, distinct legal systems, and independent political developments are just minor hiccups to be swept under the grand rug of unity. Picture the harmony of cultural differences magically dissolving as everyone embraces the same traditions and interpretations of Islam. Sunni, Shia, Wahhabi-why not throw in a few more denominations for good measure? After all, religious unity has always been a hallmark of peace in the region, hasn't it? And let's not forget the political landscape. Those pesky democracies, monarchies, and autocracies can finally join hands in a blissful dance of uniform governance. What a quaint idea that countries with starkly different political systems would happily submit to a single constitution. Who cares about the intricate legal frameworks meticulously developed over centuries? Economic disparities? Pish posh! The wealth of oil-rich nations can surely trickle down seamlessly to the poorer ones. It's not like economic policy or resource management ever leads to conflict. Just imagine the joyous redistribution of wealth-Saudi riches flowing freely into Somalia and Yemen. Utopia achieved! Oh, the linguistic kaleidoscope of Arabic, Turkish, Persian, Urdu, and dozens of other languages will blend effortlessly. A Babelian paradise where everyone suddenly understands each other, all thanks to our supreme leader's divine linguistic unification powers. Of course, historical animosities and national pride are mere trivialities. Centuries of rivalry and conflict will evaporate overnight as everyone unites under the banner of the United Muslim League. Nationalism? Just a fleeting fad! Sectarian divides? What sectarian divides? The proposal's sheer brilliance will make Sunnis and Shias embrace in an eternal brotherly hug. Military autonomy? Who needs it? Let's just pool all our armies and see how wonderfully that works out. Human rights? Well, those varied standards across different countries will just harmonize themselves. Women's rights in Saudi Arabia, free speech in Iran, and religious freedom in Pakistan-it's a melting pot of rights! Leadership legitimacy, you say? Simple! The supreme leader will obviously be accepted by all. Why wouldn't they? Accountability? A quaint concept for those not enlightened by this proposal's genius. And, of course, the logistics! Imagine the seamless coordination required to manage this utopia-no room for resistance, corruption, or security risks. The local governance and public support will naturally fall into place, because who wouldn't want to be part of this grand design? International relations will be a breeze. The world will surely welcome this monolithic entity with open arms. Economic integration will occur without a hitch, and all resources will be managed equitably and without dispute. In the end, who needs practical, nuanced approaches when you can have such a splendidly idealistic vision? Implementation is just a minor detail in this grand scheme. After all, what could possibly go wrong? Come out of fantasy land
Salaamualaikum from South Africa. A vary deep and insightful conversation. Your knowledges are beyond me. Jzkl khair. Muslim armies marching around would be a folly ,a moving target for our enemies. We must constantly work towards unity wherever we find ourselves. Unity,not necessarily uniformity. Discreet and undercover. Muslims have to go "underground " now,like the ANC in the apartheid struggle here
A very side question to Dr Yasir Qadhi: did Imam Qurtibi mention Abu Bakr al Asamm only or he mentioned Mutazilite too? This is because when translating Qurtubi quote you added Mutazilah to the quote. We know that Amr bil Maroof and Nahy an el munkar is the fifth basic element in Mutazilah theology which includes Imamah or Khilafah.
This discussion is highlevel and too nuanced to be extreem so I listened to each word which does not mean i agree or disagree. I belong to those who prioritise establihing Khilafa within family the establishing Khilafa in having the eid on the same day in Belgium for example ...
One Imam is a wishful thinking. Please work around with many Imam, but one Islamic principle. We Muslims strive for uniformity. Unity and uniformity is not same. Diversity is unity. It’s a good discussion and helps us. But it’s like jumping the gun. There was once chaliphat now we should be working our acts together before talking about establishing caliphate. Let’s work bottom up
I don't think we can establish khilafa at the moment, even if we want it badly, but local reforms are 100% possible. And this is what we should focus on (Circle of Concern vs Circle of Influence).
Sahaba never doubted it in Khandaq when RasūlAllahﷺ said regarding the conquering of two Superpowers of the time. What makes you doubt today? Stay firm in the Deen and strive to make it victorious, Nasruminallah wa fathun qareeb
Our Sahaba(Ra) gave blood and sacrificed there loved ones to establish the caliphate before even our beloved Profet Sallalahu Alaihi Wa Sallam fought and lost his teeth . So there are no easy ways no Democracy Voting BS . Just only one way the way of our Prophet .
the original sin of every islamist is what Said Nursi said “ politics will make u not see failutes within yout part” . the dialectic talk is one of yje weakest, and i am a good follower of the shajk Yasir. how come u came aound and never touched the core. who will choose the halifa?! a super power, a war or the spiritual inclination of muslims?! if it is the last all 2 hours of talk and distintion between pro and anti kjalifa is only in your mind. there is only one way. work with youtself and the next to you. and maybe the community will reach a position of dua-ul khal that they unite also politically. and erdogan?! please e would fall witjin the blod thirsy list u mentioned. and u glow over his hyporcisy over gaza?! so easily? look turkey now is jn economicall shit and religion is never worse. there is a massive youngsters neglecting islam identity. worse than ever so. erdogan last product is less ilsam and worse economy ever. but islamist sympathies let u mot see yhis and neglect him persecuting milions if muslims
1:07:48 these are very weird points being made here. Oh some guys have hurt feelings (especially this being through reading history) so...? Bit confused on the point being made here Edit: seems to be a general digression to talking about history and correcting misinformation
The question that is really being asked here, imho, is not that of the abstract concept of a unified political authority over all muslims, rather, it is whether the current form of political authority dominating the Muslim world is one where Islam can be practiced as a world view,, and if not, and it is not, would the way be to reform Islam to fit the political form, or reform our approach to politics and statehood to fit Islam as a worldview? And furthermore, what is the role of the Scholars to prepare the intellectual substructure necessary to garner the critical population mass necessary to make this change, be it gradual or abrupt.
Well said, Khilafah was a result of the dawah of prophet Muhammad peace be upon him for 23 years . Now the Muslims are like in the makkan era in some places and madina era in other, so we basically came back especially after colonization, most importantly, the colonization of the mind and thought and aqeedah. Even if muslim countries are 'independent' WE have to educate and do tarbiyah of every muslim household upon islam and when we have a community in which majority of Muslims fulfil the fard and stay away from major sins and shirk, only such people will be ble to get Khilafah and live in a Khilafah. Because there are many Muslims who would oppose it, so both should go hand in hand paralelly
Hadith: The army that conquers Constantinople is the best of armies. The commander the best of commanders, the soldier the best of soldiers. Why would our beloved Prophet (saw) say this about Fethi Mehmet if they as you claim “ wanted to continue the byzantine Roman Empire”. ????? You just insulted Rasul Allah and an entire army of Allah and the blood that was shed by the martyrs, who all prayed and prostrated before, during , and after the conquest.
The caliphate is not possible in any time now Population has grown exponentially and diversity Most of Muslim nations are dictators who will never give up their position but call them caliphs like the Turks did At this juncture our job is to spread the message and leave the rest to Allah Not to speak about caliphate that is stupid because if one knows political science that is next to impossible and a few generations away at least Besides these kind of loose talk only creates fear among non Muslims about a oppressive Muslim ruler
Marrakesh to Jakarta, all of it belongs to Muslims.
Really, lol.
He sais Casablanca to Jakarta. He should ve said AddarulBaidaa to Jakarta 👍
It already does... we just need to help muslims act like better Muslims.. we don't need a world government which will end up being oppressive and tyrannical anyway..
@@ahmadjuwayni6256 you don’t think the Taliban and the Ayatollah are oppressive and tyrannical?
@@ahmadjuwayni6256 A human doesn't dictate what should be the Socio-economic-political structure looks like.. Allâh made Khilāfah Fard ul Kifayah then it should the priority of Ummah. Period. Dont make excuses or show Nifāq to run from Islām now.
One caliphate. One rule. One order. One world. One ummah. One God.
…was rarely the case for the vast majority of Muslim history.
And in the darkness bind them!
What's important is the command of Allâh and following them.
And yes, despite conflict, there was ALWAYS an Islamic leadership on Earth until today.
makes zero sense and absolutely a useless fantasy.
This will never happen. 2 billion muslims and one leader? Lol it's impossible. Nationalism and ethnic conflicts will always be in the way
Edit: Original title was along the line of "Should Muslims re-establish the Caliphate?"
Yes we should, no need to over complicate a simple topic. It's time to start discussing how to go about it.
Many points raised about how it is an overly simplified topic
i*sis tried and see what happened to them brother ???!!
It's not going to happen. Individual states are never going to give up authority, too risky. Best closest approximate is something like the EU.
I don't know how to respond to a perspective like that of you. You are just one step away from the guys in Toyotas roaming around streets of raqqa and at mighty and costly and der*ng*d pipe dreams, achieved not a shred of anything that can be called positive or constructive. How can you be so detached from reality? Did you just finish watching your daily dose of p*rn and now decided to give your stale takes in the internet comment sections. 50+ countries and 1/4th of earths population and we can't do anything about a minuscule place like gaza. And if such a global political entity is possible, you already have an OIC or Arab League, which is just one step away from becoming a shura to a Caliph. It is always a great thing to have iman and have faith in the power of the creator, but my dude! You can't read a surah and decide to lift a mountain on your back, lol. Or you cannot have a dua and decide to jump from a plane. Now wonder if people have a phobia about people like you. I don't disagree with the idea, I think it is a noble one. But it is the people like you, detached from reality and high on blindfolded ignorance who often get to take initiatives, constructed by your almost non-existent grey matter, that is the sorry state of the Ummah.
Of course that's the ideal. But how do we get there? That's what they are discussing.
ONE GOD, One Messenger, One nation
I appreciate the discussion, they brought up good points, but what is very obvious from this discussion is the crisis of contemporary muslim intellectual capacity which offers no alternative view, they dont even define any clear criteria what makes a socio political project aligned with islamic monitheism vs what is not aligned, how do we even differentiate systems exactly, such questions are left blank or vague answers that is irrelevant to culture of modern knowledge.
They are not able to see the link between the logic and metaphycs on one hand and socio-political constructs, nor can they see the link between tawheed on one hand and logic and metaphycs on the other.
The crisis of muslims is we dont have scholars that are seriously working at the level of asool, we are only recycling at best, our muslim scholars have not actually studied the 'Modern Project' seriously at the level of asool, they have not worked on such inquiry, hence why our communities are completely preplexed.
They continue to use old terms based on expired logic and metaphyscs, which renders these discussions meaningless at the end, its crucial to start taking our religioun intellectually serious.
I wish the khilafat or a leadership to return in the Islamic world as an atonement for Palestine
The Mahdi AS will come and do that inshaAllah
At the end of the day, Dr. Hatem Al Haj made his point clear: he is content with the nation state as a concept for the Muslim world. He says so trying to wish wash his real intentions. Then he brings up arguments like having only one imam is a ijtihadi issue where you can be, as he claims, "flexible". Who decides then, if a state can be an independent state with an independent ruler? What if Iraq was split up in 3 parts with 3 rulers? Are all of them legitimate? If yes, then you accept that foreign powers determine the Muslim states ans their rulers. If no, you argument of having multiple Imams (ie rulers) is inconsistent.
I would like both of you to debate somebody that is not from your stance (the so called middle). Debate Sheikh Mazin Abdul Adheem from Canada, Dr. Abu Talha Al Malkawi or any of these people. It would benefit the whole Muslim Ummah and everyone could make his own opinion afterwards. Just an idea.
The Sheikh did so here with Uthman Badr and Imam Tom - th-cam.com/video/1dKOF0rZvJQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1BhvFYiNmgE_fiNl
He's discussed this with Uthman badar
Salaam! The shaykh's strongest evidence for his position is the history of what happend in the Muslim world from the time of the death of Hassan ibn Ali, and there was no mention of Ibn Taymiyya's statement on this issue in the book entitled, "The Political thought of Ibn Taymiyya " he said," the name of the Islamic authority is not the most important thing.What is essential is"al Kitabu hadi wa Saif an Nasir" the guiding book and the helping sword! In other words the Quran and Shari'ah and the power to establish and enforce it!
Read Wael Hallaq's Impossible State to understand why modern nation states are unislamic.
Working for returning the Khilafah Rashidah following sunnah is definitely a priority fardh and is the solution from Allah SWT.
did you see what happened to i*s*i*s tho brother ??!
I am willing to join your cause, I would like to know the first strategy you have, which government do we overthrow first and replace it with whom?
@@heybudstfunowWait, so ISIS was calling for a dar al islam?
No it’s not look the Taliban,Iran and ISIS and Muslim brotherhood all violent and corrupt
What is it that you don’t understand
- “we should focus strengthening our relationship with Allah”
what do you think the aim of living and working under Islam will achieve its part and parcel of the deen.
How else are the muslims in gaza meant to get protection from their oppressors? Imam is a shield. This imam is not sinwar, Biden or Sunak. We need to strive as much as possible for this cause. The fact that over an hour to give an answer shows what they stand upon. Bring someone who opposes your views.
Ottomans were never a shield for Egyptians or Palestinians. They were just plunderers and destroyers though modernists and ikhwanies consider them khulafa.
@@al-Baa7ith-3an-il-Ma3rifah Lmao, then change the Khalifāh if they implement Kufr but Zulm is not an excuse in Islām, just as you dont do in other stable systems. You consider Islām Framework based Khilāfah system to be worse than a Taghūti systems like Egypt, turkey, Saudi or other capitalist secular Jāhiliyyah. Such a shameful reasoning being a Muslim.
Please invite someone to the show how is competent in this field like Dr. Mohammed Malkawi or Mazin Abdul Adheem. It would be an insightful discussion for everyone.
By the comments you would think the biggest scholars of our time are part time keyboard warriors.
No, they are not the biggest, but only keyboard warriors are doing something while others do nothing. Planning to do something is doing something, but doing something without any good plan is doing nothing :)
cool story bro
Slm,hope you are not among the warriors.
Lol. People know that what these guys are doing is placate the muslim sentiment.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Dont take anyone as authority
Was this program about HT ??
@ Yasir Qadi, if you are sincere,
Why don't you invite HT and let them give the answers, instead of you incorrectly preaching the issue of Caliphate and creating confusion.
I am not a scholar to comment on whether they present the stronger arguments, but this talk demonstrates the importance of the learned speaking on topics like this (as opposed to laymen) because of all of the facets of this topic many of which I was unaware of.
الخلافة الخلافة الخلافة.......ام الفرائض khilafah is the mother of other obligations.sharia cannot be applied without khilafah
You should talk to Shaykh Usta because he has the best blueprint proposal that I've heard of so far.
The question of when we’ll have a khilafah again is like when qiyaamah will come. And the answer is the same. What have we done to prepare for it?
There are differences. The Day is coming whether you want it or not.
The khilafah will NOT come if we dont want it, which is where we are now. We have over 50 national republics and scores of monarchies. The majority accept kufr legal systems from tye West instead of Islam. Our leaders intentionally misguide us to go against the khilafah, as the Prophet (saws) warned us they would do near the last days.
I don’t understand why some Muslims don’t have confidence in the solution prescribed by Allah SWT? Working for Khilafah Rashidah based on any available opinions or your derived opinion is the task given from Allah even if you get it or not. Nobody says it is any utopia. Phew.
Allah gave the formula and we have to figure out how to implement that formula in our place and time. If the formula was enough, then why the rightly guided Caliphs used to sit in Shura with other Sahaba and discuss how to implement the guidance in the Qur'an and Sunnah?
Because Allah is too weak and useless and they know it. There is not a single Calipha that Muslims universally accepted so far. 3 out of 4 so called "Rashiuddin" caliphas were killed by their fellow muslims themselves. First guy only lived 2 years otherwise he would have met the same fate. So Muslims know All is too weak to give them a Calipha for 1400 years and they dont believe in Alla any more
Allah didn’t prescribed the so called caliphate it was just the name of the political movement after the death of the prophet and it changed to kingdoms later in modern times caliphate is the civil democratic system
You need to first remove the influence of the CIA and Mossad in North Africa and Turkiye. Second that would include identifying the false Royal families of Saudi, Jordan etc... Third, establish the United Islamic Republic with its capital moving between the capitals of each Republic member every 5 years. This body would be separate from the governance at the town/city, district, province levels and Would guide the collective GDP to strengthen the UIR's place on the world stage.
That sound like a start. Where are you located?
Shifting the capital shift every 5 years would be very counterproductive. There shoule be no problem centring the capital in Madinah, while maintaining a provincial capital in every 'Republic member'
Anyone with a Salafi background watching? I used to believe yq to be a deviant for so many reasons but that's ridiculous now thinking about it.. he's just being misunderstood by some simple minded folks like me
me too, i’m an ex-salafi
This is Satan's plan to take everyone to hell.
Lol, confuse the already confused with terminologies. Islam in times of peace is different and Islam in times of hardship, difficulty is different. You can’t bring food to me when my house is on fire because it is a Sunnah. You can’t do just acts of worship when what is happening in Palestine. Muslims (especially the imams, ulemas, muftis, faqis etc.) needs to do politics, bring in numbers, get the govts. To pass bills. No building in the world gathers more people then a masjid on a firday. This needs to be done in muslim countries atleast.
When we lose the fear of death
When we put God first when we control our nafs
When we lose the love for the world what we need is a spiritual awakening the promise of God is that Allah does not change a peoples condition until they dont change what is whithin themselves lets all unite upon haqq unity is the way and what will unite us is not thinking about our selves but about islam. Evil will be destroyed.
I find this scholer not pragmatic and able to grasp the reality we live in. We live in a situation that is oppressive for all humanity for muslims its become a key issue day by day to just practise their deen, the system that is upon us is of taguhot which is a great sin. Wether its Muslim countries or not its a law that is not of Allah swt. Politics and Islam cant be separated they go hand in hand most conservative muslim scholers have focused upon the individual actions of each other i.e. perfect your prayers and your spiritual aspect etc but ignore the collective and societal duties and whats happening around us as that is not where you just pray it is determined by performance according to the seerah of our prophet pbuh. This scholer seems to me very philosophical and not grasping the reality...look at gaza and all muslims how can we resolve these issues until we dont get rid of the corrupt regimes in muslim lands who do the work of their global masters whos deen is captilisim look how the jews with small numbers in terms of the global population have organsied themselves politically and placed themselves in key positions and within the financial structures which is why they have the world to their knees and do as they please despite the majority who oppose their actions. Muslim scholers need to address these issues and need to be more political in their sermons an talks and give the ummah the true solution from Islam not make them feel helpless and have the same concept as a yogi to close their eyes to reality and keep meditating and praying. As Allah invokes us to get up and do our bit first and then his help will follow but we need to wake up and if not realise now then we never will and be always lost woth scholers who just take things that need common sense and make them so complicated as how the jewish and Christian scholers had done.
why can not we unite under umbrella of Believing on Allah and his messenger ( PBUH) - don’t we ALL believe it? So let’s that belief UNITES us muslims. Gaza will
not happen again the
So is hakimiyyah and establishing the laws of Allah entering into Rububiyyah, Uluhiyyah and asma was sifaat as the scholars have said is not part of aqeedah? You are mixing the proofs, the nullifer of Islam ﴿ وَمَن يَتَوَلَّهُم مِّنكُمْ فَإِنَّهُ مِنْهُمْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لاَ يَهْدِي الْقَوْمَ الظَّالِمِين﴾ is completely being ignored, how many atimes has Allah azzawajal warned us from taking His enemies as the allies?! Changing the shareeah in terms of ijtihaad of other than the ahkam of Shariah yes there are qawaid for such but otherwise it is kufr sareeh as the scholars say. No one cars about your humble opinion the deen of Allah is not deficient in any way shape or form and has been and is complete.
Perhaps the fact that every generation finds these Hadith of the end times directly relevant to their current happenings points in the directions of them being intentionally delivered or revealed in this manner to keep the fascination for the faith up and running and make it seem like an adventurous journey throughout Everyone’s life and across the generations.
During the abbasids you had a more devolved method of rulership. However in the end they recognised a singular khaleef
In the saying of Uthman ibn Affan, "Allah deters by the power of government(sultan) those who are not deterred by the teachings of Quran."
Establishing a Caliphate is good and is needed to advance Muslim rights, perspectives and to protect Muslims.
However we need to not romanticise the past Caliphates in think that under them the Muslims lived a fairytale Islamic life within the Islamic Law (Shariah).
Even now establishing the Caliphate would not suddenly change the state of the ummah, it's lack of religiosity, it's economic power or military might etc.
But with that said every Muslim should want its establishment and work towards that within their capacity.
However this not an obligation to establish as no Islamic evidence suggest it is obligatory to work for or to establish. In fact many clear obligations take priority in establishment and calling towards before this Caliphate.
Plus we can live and establish good firm Muslim minorities and Muslim majority countries without a Caliphate. But it maybe easier and quicker under a Caliphate.
From looking at the seerah it seems Caliphate is established as a by product of the ummah being majority upright and religious.
This issue is not one to split or argue over because that will certainly not lead to the establishment of a Caliphate and Allah knows best.
if we could live fine as minorities or well in Muslim majorities, then explain our situation in the last 100 years ... the fact is these "countries" are a direct byproduct of colonial take over of former lands of Islam and on top are in the firm grip of our colonizers because of their lackeys literally being put in positions of power before they left
So then how can we seek to live under complete Islam in this present reality where the so called Muslim majority countries are ruled by iron fist?
Easy to say each country should look to reform but there seems to be a clear disconnect in recognizing the actual roadblocks that ensure those reforms don't take place. The ruling elite are heavily entrenched and will stop at nothing to neutralize any such effort.
As long as the elephant in the room, the power brokers, remains unchallenged, it does not matter how many individuals per say become pious. We are unlikely to witness a holistic revival.
The ideal would be to have work done among the masses to build a collective understanding of Islam as a comprehensive system that can address our problems and have the sincere among the elite with means to create a ripple effect on board.
Why are we even talking if it is Sunnah or not. Does it really matter, in this day and age.
If you and me both like football, we create a football club so other football enthusiasts can come along and we can have good time, and protect our common interest in legitimate way.
If we all love Islam, and our prophet, should we not then have common khilafah or khilafahs that will be working towards a same goal??
Lmao. These two should just open a pick and mix store. 😂😂
Looks practical. Out of 100 Muslims, the so called strong Muslims who is capable to fight any regime to bring khilafa would be less than 5.. the other 95 Muslims can't bear the pressure of backlash in this path to bring khilafa.it is not just Iman, but also their socio economic conditions dont allow. So they can't be accommodated in the fight for khilafa. This 5 strong Muslims, is too miniscule to bring any change to achieve the goal of khilafa. If they still strive, it will be bitter for this 5 Muslims as well the remaining.. So better to work on some other agenda, that would accommodate at least more than 50 Muslims. Actually I should say in reality, if 1 such strong Muslim is amoung a 1000, it is a big thing.
YQ you keep trying to pretend through out this chat like you're "for" actively working for a khilafah but you speak not a single word about how we as the ummah are supposed to do this. And your whole focus on discrediting the impractical "zealots" who desire the khilafah shows which side you stand on.
What is more realistic? All muslims pray Fajr in the mousque or building a caliphate? The Caliphate was something already existing…
It’s easy to live in an echo chamber
Why not invite from those who call for the Khilafah?
Given the situation around the Muslim lands, this discussion is not going away no matter how much you wish to belittle it.
Your hand has been forced, that’s why you felt it important enough to address it
The more people become aware of it the quicker your voices will be drowned out
Asalaamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakaatuh, what was the book Dr. Hatem recommended on Islam & Politics by Shaykh Nadwi?
and also the book that Dr. Yasir recommends us to read towards the end?
Jazak Allahu khayran
Painful as it was listening to these 2 brothers, pontificating with intellectual verbal gymnastic and sawing the seed of confusion and conjecture!!
Let's keep this simple especially for these 2 "sheikh" brothers. Forget the topic of Khilafah, I think its obvious your not interested in it, while working hard to prevent the sincere Muslims from this intellectual struggle.
How is it that you "sheikh" brothers feel so comfortable living in this kufr world order???
We ARE living under, kings, prince's, oppressors and dictators, so what should come next???
😂
Dismantling of the Sykes-Picot borders, obviously.
Oh my Allah I am trying tooth and nail to understand this complexity
Ok. Having said all that, now who is my leader? I live in Australia, there’s so much disunity and mixed messages and so many affairs of the believers needs to be fixed, so who is my go to amirul mu’minin?
Understood, but the state of affairs with Muslims on the ground is desperate! What is the solution? Do we just simply sacrifice the current desperate situations and look forward to a better united future? Clearly, due to lack of unity all these happening. Are we just going to bite our lips and say “ unfortunately it was Palestine and Rohingya and uguir Muslims turn this time around to suffer and let it go?” I don’t see anyone or any groups taking any positive steps other than discussion like this from time to time and leaving it to that! Millions of Afghans/ Iraqi/ Syrians killed by outside forces, have we taken any steps after these atrocities collectively or as an individual nation to prevent future atrocities? The answer is no! hence current atrocities in Palestine. How much more time do we need for these spectrum of opinions to unite? These are the common questions from common people, clearly, I don’t want my family or my country to be next in the queue for another atrocity! Immediate action required to unify the ummah.
Allah will bring back Caliphate when Mahdi a,s arrives, so you guys cant make Calipahte ,becos all muslim world will regonize Mahdi a,s when army is swallowed in baida and they give him allience to become caliph
Living in the dark ages of criminals were power & money is the gold,, usa, uk, france, prime examples
They didn't even talk about how Ummah is suffering for not having Caliphate
Great discussion, lacks specialization!
With all due respect to two of my most beloved scholars: they both lack political specialization to pass on a judgement of what is feasible and what is not.
You made some great points from a shari'ah stand point, but not so much when it comes to the pros and cons of the current nation-state/international order, and whether or not there is a political alternative.
This discussion should be in the presence of a group of political scientists and current affairs analysts so the final opinion of our two beloved scholars would be qualified.
Why are you undermining khalafah to be not necessary (Waajib)
I understand its not available right now and we can in the meantime be pragmatic but the necessary nature of it shouldn't be denied. Allahu Alam.
Isn't Fard means you must do it right now and not postpone it? :)
Whose the caliph in your so called caliphate?
but look what happened to i**si**s when they tried ??
وفقكم الله تعالى لكل خير
We don’t need lots of imams. Instead we should have a lot of governor in different muslim lands but ultimately all working together under 1 imam
Timeline 1h28... those movements that don't encourage activity in working towards political Islam did not understand the life of Habeeb Sallallah hu alai wa sallam. This activism of Rasoolullah Sallallah hu alai wa sallam was discouraged by the Enemies of Islam (Quraysh). Hence, those movements who say "don't actively engage to reestablish the Khilafah" gives us an indication of whose agenda they are backing. Sad to say, but it does.
It's unfortunate that Sheikh Al-Haaj misrepresented Maududian thought because he's heavily biased towards Abul Hasan Nadwi esp his book of worries about "political Islam" although it's a misnomer to call it as such.
Most people want to establish their own version of a Khilafah. They don’t care if it will be ruled by Jahmies, Shia (like it was with Turkic/Kurdish/Persian dynasties of Egypt, Middle East, Central Asia and Hindustan) or whether it’s gonna be a modernist-ikhwani Khilafah like they are trying to create now under the label of “Turan”. The fact is Jahmi or Shia or Panturkists or modernists can establish anything but a real Khilafah. After the decline of Abbasids when they gave power to Ajamies, de facto the real Khilafah stopped existing.
Awwwww, are you scared that a caliphate will mean the fall of the gulf puppet kings and princes whom you worship? How cute!
We majority of Turks are absolutely against Turkısh involvement in any religious notion of khalifa. We are a democracy, we fought hard to get rid of the Arabist version of Islam. In Turkey men don’t have the upper hand, he can’t marry more than one woman, he doesn’t have the upper hand in getting divorced, etc. We want to keep it that way.democracy is the best representation of islam. As for your clear misunderstanding of the Turan is the union, which is not based on domination of any nation. It is the cooperation of Turkic peoples for mutual benefits. That should concern no one nor should it concern of any one but Turks.
Yasir Qadhi is my mentor from 🇪🇹
Keep making duaa for 🇵🇸💔
Brother make sure you guys work to create unity among Habeshi Muslims. My understanding is that there is huge no of population but very disintegrated society
So just because attempting to create a global change such the establishment of the khilafah MAY and it will bring a backlash from the world and we will have to struggle and make sacrifices means we shouldn’t even attempt it!!!
Shameful viewpoint from you sheikh … those working for the Islamic system - we work, are active in our communities, we are active in our Masajid because Islam dictates we live with the people and change their mindset ….
I don’t think you listened to the podcast.
What have you achieved in Syria , iraq , Afghanistan , Yemen , libya , Pakistan by trying to establish khalifah? Only death and destruction ! And result would be same again.
Do you know a single shaykh or imam who you can call Khilafah? Yasir, do you want to be khalif of all Muslims including the Shias?
Regarding the hadith of sneezing, I was surprised to hear it. I myself has always thought that when I confess something really truthful, I start feeling chills and ticklish around my face and my nose, causing me to sneeze. Sometimes I have really deep epiphanies and when I profess it out loud I start to sneeze. For example, one time I told this woman that I'm truly in love with her sincerely and I started to sneeze. I noticed this pattern of sneezing and confessing the truth that I started to Google the correlation and I found that there are other cultures who believe that there is a correlation and today surprisingly sheikh said there's a hadith that's possibly authentic to verify it too. It's amazing subhanallah and I personally wouldn't dismiss that hadith because I've experienced its truthfulness myself
Too many tengents 😅😅😅😅
Next podcast should discuss how to get towards khilafah please
Humbly request that representatives/members of groups that are actively working for the Khilafah are invited to discuss the matter since it is their expertise because the Ummah should come to know what are the various conceptions of it in our present reality and what is the road map those groups propose to get there.
The matter is quite clear that it is fard upon the Ummah to have a Khilafah & Khalifah. The time is now to have robust discussions with those involved in the work for it and to let them address concerns the wider community/Ummah may have.
Also I wonder how Dr. Qadhi & Shaykh Hatem reconcile their position of Khilafah being of lesser priority relative to the well established classical discourse which was quoted in detail in this discussion.
It would also be nice to have follow ups with Shaykh Hatem if possible where he can detail how he envisions revival starting from Muslim countries in their respective ways when the entire configuration of nation-state model was designed to foster enmity, division and hatred among the Ummah by colonial powers that carved up Osmanli Khilafah & Mughal Sultanate. Even if we accept the premise that every Muslim country should strive for reform in line with the shar'iah, what would the Shaykh propose in terms of overcoming the deeply embedded foreign actors/entities especially the US & all its machinery in meddling with the affairs of the Ummah no matter the country. When you have a ruling elite loyal to the US & other Western colonial states how can we have representative governments & leaders? All this needs further elaboration and a clear, constructive road map so the Ummah can begin to have tangible solutions.
The vicious ideological grip of capitalist nation-state model has ensured nothing but humiliation & oppression for the Ummah in the last 100 years since the fall of Khilafah. We don't have a single successful example where a representative leader came to power and successfully implemented the shar'iah because as Wael Hallaq articulates that the shar'iah is incompatible with modern nation state. So having a well thought out plan for this would be one way to provide alternative methods for establishing Khilafah.
Walaikumusalaam
Wa rahmatullahi
Wa barakahatuhu
This discussion is of much benefit to the Ummah and the details provided are greatly appreciated, alhumdulillah. Thank you so much for explaining that the ideal way for good changes would be to begin at a local level by exemplifying Islam ourselves, seeking Allah (swt)’s guidance, aiming for Jannah, and attaining His pleasure.
Jazakum Allahu khairun
Aameen to the beautiful duas
Barak Allahu Feek, Aameen
Assalaamualaikum
Wa rahmatullahi
Wa barakahatuhu
Your whole argument against having one khalifa for the ummah is pragmatism, and based on ibn taymiyah's acceptance of a masiyah committed by a group, which resulted in having more than one Khalifah.
what does it mean to establish khilafah? doesn't it mean to establish justice and rule of law, where the law being the hadd, and those derived from Shriya's fundamentals? does it mean to enforce personal level ibadah, or does it mean enforcing ban upon personal level sins?
as far as I understand, establishing Allah's deen means in no way to enforce personal level bindings in any way. it's absolutely forbidden for the state to enforce Deen's personal level ahkam's on anyone. establishment of deen only means that there must be justice at state level, the judicial system will act according to the laws derived from Shriya's fundamentals when it comes to dealing with criminal actions.
Khilafah is a specific legal system. The furu' fiqh of Hajj exemplifies how the entire Muslim Ummah can be organized and to follow a collective will, intelligence, behavior throughout the hours of the day, day by day, for specific time periods. Setting aside national limitations, in theory every hajj could be 10s of millions performing in unison.
The khilafah system as exemplified by the khulafa rashidoon provides the Ummah the way to reimplementing khilafah in totality and specificity, for The Cause of Allah. Remember, the Cause of Allah means: Divine Revelation of The Holy Quran, and Sunnah, supercedes human machinations.
Yes, there are specific ahkaam which form a system with definitve legal parameters, rather than mere principles without specific legal structures.
It means establishing religio-fascism.
Or does it mean imposing people like baghdadi or mullah umer on muslims.
Dear Sheikh, please continue the series on the prophets.
I clearly understood what these sheikhs meant , it was a bit technical and absorbing video but still i agree with them
If we try to establish Caliphate then we become Fifth columnists inside our own countries , we may bring upon ourselves Orwellian surveillance as the state may see us a perceived national threat working to undermine National security for establishing Caliphate
Even if we establish a Caliphate hypothetically, we have to worry about its borders , separatism and secession more than implementing shariah
Then so be it. We must do what Allah commanded of us.
Masha’Allah. Qul hu Allahu ahad ❤️ may we work to unite the ummah and may Allah unite the ummah
Ameen. InshaAllah the Mahdi will do just that
2 very brilliant minds.
Caliphate already exist with the Shias in Iran.
lol no
Then what is the solution of Gaza?🇵🇸
Protest outside the Israeli embassy!
Excellent discussion mashallah
This is the kind of nonsense which plagues modern Islamic scholarship, the khilafah will come back into the world, most certainly, at the latest when imam Mahdi has appeared and Nabi Isa has returned. Anyone who is foolish enough to ignore this fact in the context of this discussion and tries to argue that it's not a certainty that the khilafah will be established once more before judgement day, is clearly not speaking with any intelligence.
never ever ever...we are not in bronze age
[Quote] At the end of the day, Dr. Hatem Al Haj made his point clear: he is content with the nation state as a concept for the Muslim world. He says so trying to wish wash his real intentions. [unquote]
اجتنبوا كثيرا من الظن ... .. . إنما الأعمال بالنيات ... .. . إياكم والظن، فإن الظن أكذب الحديث
I dont go for titles likley to be named Iesa or Mahdi but my name is blessed to be perfect and i only am satisfied with one title The Conqueror! All religions telling and prophecied about me and so also NOstradamus Michael.. Telling you all muslims it is time to reveal myself to the world.. We already live in Judgement Day or The Day of Ressurection!!!! Moi Carlo Sahebzad The Conqueror
Sheikh Qhai you are much better you heal the hearts of the misguided, thankyou for your help in my life
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So, according to the scholar here, the khalifa is the successor of the group. So if that were true, then the muhajiroon would have been okay to pick their khalifa and the ansar would have been okay to have their khalifah. No?
The khalifa being a "representative" is a modern interpretation.
No, it would not be ok. You can't have two in the same place because of the hadith.
Not to be that guy, but can you PLEASE choose a warmer/darker color tone for the walls? You can go anywhere from monochrome to flat complementary and warm colors. Something that won't make the eyes bleed while watching 🙃
The many authentic Hadeeth on the Mal'hamtul Kub'raArmageddon mention the West will fight the Muslims under 80 Banners/Flags, each of them with 12,000 soldiers, the same Hadeeth never mentioned the Muslims coming under different banners, do you think the Muslims could take on a nearly 1 Million Army from the West without a United Khilaafah???
The Chapter The Believers in Quran المومنون verses 52-54 sums it up as only Allah can.
The end reality is we are all tribal preferring our culture and traditions and holding on to the notion that they are the best.
We may try to establish political Islam on a large scale, believing that we are following some model of the sahaba joining foces under the leader i.e. khalif, yet in order to expand and consolidate the system using the terms khaliphate كلافة/خليفة
would necessarily assume that those implementing such would need to be "true believers." in order to have success through obedience to all that Allah and His Messenger ordered.
Turkey?
Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatuAllâh wabarakatu dear Sheikh,
You commented regarding Turkey.
Then, you compared Turkey to Malaysia. You mentioned the leadership.
Where is Turkey, & where is Malaysia, Singapore, Siam, Indonesia, China, Myanmar, Vietnam!
Shall I continue insh'Allâh...?
The guest is miture enough to say that maybe i was right when i was young so to me that summarize it, khilafah will be established by young people. In sha ALLAH
It will never be stablished because it was a mid evil political system
There are tons of Dhanni/Speculative issues been applied daily such as many issues inside the Prayer, as the scholars in the past and present differ on them using many times the same hadeeth in different ways. Be careful!!! Go back to the scholars, make a Shoorah with a large group of them. Remember that it was a Turkish deviant scholar who convinced them to abolish the Ottoman Caliphate!
The famous hadith mentions, " “Whoever among you sees evil, let him change it with his hand. If he cannot do so, then with his tongue. If he cannot do so, then with his heart, which is the weakest level of faith.”. In the west, there are too many evil around us which we cannot even speak about, let alone change it with our hands. So what we do is hate it with our hearts, and thus, we are at the weakest level of faith. And yet, there is no "faith crisis" if there is no Khilafah when we all know that the only way to reach the highest level of faith (changing an evil with hand) is through Khilafah. سُبْحَانَ ٱللَّٰهِ
Askm All
This is a great discussion. But i lije how SH. Yasir is able to put info in nuggets that as an awam am able to understand more easily while Sh Hatem, Sh Asrar are more focussed in quoting ref-obviously important but we lose the chain of thought and thus not able to get the full picture, definitely it wd be of great help to scholarly researchers...
My 2 bit, instead of having a partisan debate, the objective of the ppl for Khilafah is a solution to the current imbecilic situation dragging tge concerned ppl down without a roadmap. Its important tgat such great minds shd come together and come qith multiple possible proposals could be multiple and probably counter to eaxh other in superficial way but could lead to a confluence over a period of time...
One question to ask is wd such a quest be tolerated in the west, bcoz obviously it wd be highly stifled in muslim countries
AudubiLLAH min ash shaytaan ar rageem BISMILLAH AR RAHMAN AR RAHEEM
As salaam alaikum wa rahmatuLLAHI Wa barakatu
Moins de dollérités pour vous Dr et frère Baajour aussi. Plus+ de roupies, de shekels d'aqsa, de roubles de grozny ou du pain et de l'eau de madina en quantité ou autre fortification de constitution islamique. Je vais regarder plus tard in shaa allahou.
in this time, one solution may be, the existing governments of the separate Muslim countries are to give allegiance under a single Person who be called as the supreme leader of the United Muslim League. who would have the power to dismiss a govt if they doing injustice and on the basis of respective country's huge population's complain, under an unified constitution.
and he would be removed and replaced through the vote of no confidence by the majority number of country's governments.
Oh, what a delightful fantasy we've stumbled upon! Imagine, if you will, a world where all Muslim-majority countries surrender their sovereignty to a singular, omnipotent "supreme leader." Yes, because clearly, centuries of diverse cultural evolution, distinct legal systems, and independent political developments are just minor hiccups to be swept under the grand rug of unity. Picture the harmony of cultural differences magically dissolving as everyone embraces the same traditions and interpretations of Islam. Sunni, Shia, Wahhabi-why not throw in a few more denominations for good measure? After all, religious unity has always been a hallmark of peace in the region, hasn't it? And let's not forget the political landscape. Those pesky democracies, monarchies, and autocracies can finally join hands in a blissful dance of uniform governance. What a quaint idea that countries with starkly different political systems would happily submit to a single constitution. Who cares about the intricate legal frameworks meticulously developed over centuries? Economic disparities? Pish posh! The wealth of oil-rich nations can surely trickle down seamlessly to the poorer ones. It's not like economic policy or resource management ever leads to conflict. Just imagine the joyous redistribution of wealth-Saudi riches flowing freely into Somalia and Yemen. Utopia achieved! Oh, the linguistic kaleidoscope of Arabic, Turkish, Persian, Urdu, and dozens of other languages will blend effortlessly. A Babelian paradise where everyone suddenly understands each other, all thanks to our supreme leader's divine linguistic unification powers. Of course, historical animosities and national pride are mere trivialities. Centuries of rivalry and conflict will evaporate overnight as everyone unites under the banner of the United Muslim League. Nationalism? Just a fleeting fad! Sectarian divides? What sectarian divides? The proposal's sheer brilliance will make Sunnis and Shias embrace in an eternal brotherly hug. Military autonomy? Who needs it? Let's just pool all our armies and see how wonderfully that works out. Human rights? Well, those varied standards across different countries will just harmonize themselves. Women's rights in Saudi Arabia, free speech in Iran, and religious freedom in Pakistan-it's a melting pot of rights! Leadership legitimacy, you say? Simple! The supreme leader will obviously be accepted by all. Why wouldn't they? Accountability? A quaint concept for those not enlightened by this proposal's genius. And, of course, the logistics! Imagine the seamless coordination required to manage this utopia-no room for resistance, corruption, or security risks. The local governance and public support will naturally fall into place, because who wouldn't want to be part of this grand design? International relations will be a breeze. The world will surely welcome this monolithic entity with open arms. Economic integration will occur without a hitch, and all resources will be managed equitably and without dispute. In the end, who needs practical, nuanced approaches when you can have such a splendidly idealistic vision? Implementation is just a minor detail in this grand scheme. After all, what could possibly go wrong?
Come out of fantasy land
Do you know the comic "Isnogud" with a theme of constant fight of "wanting to be the kalif instead of the kalif". You might enjoy it.
Salaamualaikum from South Africa. A vary deep and insightful conversation. Your knowledges are beyond me. Jzkl khair.
Muslim armies marching around would be a folly ,a moving target for our enemies. We must constantly work towards unity wherever we find ourselves. Unity,not necessarily uniformity. Discreet and undercover. Muslims have to go "underground " now,like the ANC in the apartheid struggle here
A very side question to Dr Yasir Qadhi: did Imam Qurtibi mention Abu Bakr al Asamm only or he mentioned Mutazilite too? This is because when translating Qurtubi quote you added Mutazilah to the quote. We know that Amr bil Maroof and Nahy an el munkar is the fifth basic element in Mutazilah theology which includes Imamah or Khilafah.
This discussion is highlevel and too nuanced to be extreem so I listened to each word which does not mean i agree or disagree. I belong to those who prioritise establihing Khilafa within family the establishing Khilafa in having the eid on the same day in Belgium for example ...
there is no establishing khilafah in your family lol that's fake brother and just makes you feel good
One Imam is a wishful thinking. Please work around with many Imam, but one Islamic principle. We Muslims strive for uniformity. Unity and uniformity is not same. Diversity is unity. It’s a good discussion and helps us. But it’s like jumping the gun. There was once chaliphat now we should be working our acts together before talking about establishing caliphate. Let’s work bottom up
Amazing!
I don't think we can establish khilafa at the moment, even if we want it badly, but local reforms are 100% possible. And this is what we should focus on (Circle of Concern vs Circle of Influence).
Why u think that ?
Sahaba never doubted it in Khandaq when RasūlAllahﷺ said regarding the conquering of two Superpowers of the time. What makes you doubt today? Stay firm in the Deen and strive to make it victorious, Nasruminallah wa fathun qareeb
Our Sahaba(Ra) gave blood and sacrificed there loved ones to establish the caliphate before even our beloved Profet Sallalahu Alaihi Wa Sallam fought and lost his teeth . So there are no easy ways no Democracy Voting BS . Just only one way the way of our Prophet .
Imam Mahdi will appear soon inshallah and rule the entire Muslim territories and beyond!
the original sin of every islamist is what Said Nursi said “ politics will make u not see failutes within yout part” . the dialectic talk is one of yje weakest, and i am a good follower of the shajk Yasir.
how come u came aound and never touched the core. who will choose the halifa?! a super power, a war or the spiritual inclination of muslims?! if it is the last all 2 hours of talk and distintion between pro and anti kjalifa is only in your mind. there is only one way. work with youtself and the next to you. and maybe the community will reach a position of dua-ul khal that they unite also politically.
and erdogan?! please e would fall witjin the blod thirsy list u mentioned. and u glow over his hyporcisy over gaza?! so easily?
look turkey now is jn economicall shit and religion is never worse. there is a massive youngsters neglecting islam identity. worse than ever so. erdogan last product is less ilsam and worse economy ever. but islamist sympathies let u mot see yhis and neglect him persecuting milions if muslims
1:07:48 these are very weird points being made here. Oh some guys have hurt feelings (especially this being through reading history) so...? Bit confused on the point being made here
Edit: seems to be a general digression to talking about history and correcting misinformation
The question that is really being asked here, imho, is not that of the abstract concept of a unified political authority over all muslims, rather, it is whether the current form of political authority dominating the Muslim world is one where Islam can be practiced as a world view,, and if not, and it is not, would the way be to reform Islam to fit the political form, or reform our approach to politics and statehood to fit Islam as a worldview? And furthermore, what is the role of the Scholars to prepare the intellectual substructure necessary to garner the critical population mass necessary to make this change, be it gradual or abrupt.
Well said, Khilafah was a result of the dawah of prophet Muhammad peace be upon him for 23 years . Now the Muslims are like in the makkan era in some places and madina era in other, so we basically came back especially after colonization, most importantly, the colonization of the mind and thought and aqeedah. Even if muslim countries are 'independent' WE have to educate and do tarbiyah of every muslim household upon islam and when we have a community in which majority of Muslims fulfil the fard and stay away from major sins and shirk, only such people will be ble to get Khilafah and live in a Khilafah. Because there are many Muslims who would oppose it, so both should go hand in hand paralelly
Hadith: The army that conquers Constantinople is the best of armies.
The commander the best of commanders, the soldier the best of soldiers.
Why would our beloved Prophet (saw) say this about Fethi Mehmet if they as you claim “ wanted to continue the byzantine Roman Empire”. ?????
You just insulted Rasul Allah and an entire army of Allah and the blood that was shed by the martyrs, who all prayed and prostrated before, during , and after the conquest.
The caliphate is not possible in any time now
Population has grown exponentially and diversity
Most of Muslim nations are dictators who will never give up their position but call them caliphs like the Turks did
At this juncture our job is to spread the message and leave the rest to Allah
Not to speak about caliphate that is stupid because if one knows political science that is next to impossible and a few generations away at least
Besides these kind of loose talk only creates fear among non Muslims about a oppressive Muslim ruler