While incredibly creepy , I don’t think it’s actually illegal to have pictures of random women all over your bedroom so the police couldn’t do anything.
Thought about it a bit and while the police can’t do anything,they might be interested in seeing that room just to make sure there aren’t any missing women in his collection of pictures. OP should have gone to the police immediately because as a resident of the house she could have let them take a look at the room. Now they have no justification to check it out.
@@bermudabeachbum3582 This story was actually LESS creepy than I had expected. I was imagining obscenity like child pornography all over his walls or him being a serial killer and body parts of murdered women in there. Even if he has technically not broken the law I bet this could go in the OP's favor in CIVIL court for the divorce or annulment proceedings. And the cops would not be totally useless. They could still escort her and provide guaranteed protection while she packs her stuff to leave so that there is no danger of him attacking her.
Maybe he had a deformity he didn't want her to see .or He was a she thinks he's a man. If so she needs help if she likes women then she should come clean. She still needs to know why I would have needed to know if
I'm glad OP took pictures of that room. Because if she didn't, he could have ripped those pictures down and acted like she was delusional. Even though her friend was there. How creepy! OP's sister is being very very insensitive. OP is definitely not the a-hole here. Dad needed to realize that his wife isn't able to do what their friends wanted. And not taking no for an answer is so infuriating.
NTA.. and HERE is where this should go.. Mom CAN NARRATE safely, so tell DAD to go buy all the crap.. and MOM will instruct HIM how to do ALL THE WORK to make em the SAME WAY.. if he says NO?? BELT HIM!!
She married someone she didn't even know. Didn't live with him, didn't have any intimacy with him and when married says we have separate bedrooms 🤦🏾♂️🤣
I posted above that I strongly disapprove of the practice of not having intimacy until AFTER marriage. Our world got that one bass ackwards. Not everyone is sexually compatible not every one has the right "chemistry" with a partner and LIVING with someone before marriage is also a VERY GOOD IDEA. She might not technically be religious as she said but religion and its bullcrap moral ideologies are so ingrained in our culture and society that even militant atheists are affected to a degree. I for example am a total atheist and yet I disrespect people who have children out of wedlock.
@@diyboomboxesintexas2805 Well they were "compatible" I guess, that means they were LUCKY. They rolled the dice and got the number they were hoping for. My opinion that intimacy BEFORE marriage is a much better bet still stands.
If I could have children and was pregnant but unfortunately ended up having a miscarriage I would put all of the baby stuff online for free giving it to parents who can't afford to buy that kind of stuff
OP with the pickle-making mom should send the recipes to everyone who is complaining and tell them to do it themselves.. Pickles aren't that hard to make.
I'm confused and questioning story 1. 1st why did she not go to police. There would be no questioning of the room. The police would see it. Putting that on social media is not the 1st thing to do. She could be arrested for putting the photos on FB. 2. Yes he and this room are creepy. But is there a crime about taking photos of women, who I am guessing we're clothed. The police need to see and take the photos to make sure they are not missing or dead. 3. Why would she file for a divorce, when she could have it annulled. The fact she stayed married to someone who basically said "too bad so sad” to sleeping apart. You don't have to be a genius to know that's not normal.
That last one hit me right between the eyes. I have Degenerative Disc Disease. In the last 25 years I have had 9 surgeries to deal with it, including, 3 spinal fusions with 7 pieces of titanium, cadaver bone and bone from my hip. Surgery to clean out both rotator cuffs from arthritis and bone spurs, carpal tunnel on both wrists, ulnar nerve replacement on both elbows, 4 kidney stone surgeries because of the medications, and now I am going to have surgery for severe stenosis and L4-L5. My friends still need me to teach them how to repair their cars, boats, equipment, and whatever welding they need done. I am being very careful about what I am doing, and if I can't do it, I say so. I also play Bass Guitar in a very good band, and we write and play all our own original music. I am trying to save what I have left for that.
Pickle story : NTA OP. You were absolutely right to defend your disabled mother from having to put her health at risk ( and your likelihood of having to be her carer, since her husband cares more about his friends' approval than his wife's health) to please his entitled friends. They are not friends of your Mum's, still expecting her to do all that work even though she has had back surgery and is not young. They just want to use her for their own ends, and your father wants to let them. Your father may be starting with dementia, the way he sees things out of proportion like that. Thank God your were there, OP, or your father would have blithely presented your poor Mum with a huge set of demands on her fragile health, and expected her to fulfil them!
I don't have the excuse of a big operation to account for my lack of a filter. If its in my head it's out of my mouth. I would have told the Entitled couple that there was no way you're mother was up to the work involved in making the pickles but if she wanted them so badly and you're father wanted her to have so badly why didn't they both go shopping,buy everything needed and you're Dad would make them for her.
Ok, there are Lunatics in both story 1 & 2. In pickle story, I would be TICKED if someone gave away the efforts of my hard work. What’s wrong with that freaking couple???I’ll tell you, entitlement and lack of empathy! The dad, & the couple are AH.
Story 3 Your father is incredibly selfish your mother is not well enough to be working for this women and your father has absolutely no respect for his own wife and you where a wonderful daughter but your father should get his priorities correct,I would have acted exactly as you did and tell your father to consider his wife's health care because clearly his not a respectful loving husband and he needed a wake up call
Story 2: NTA. What??? It is absolutely in poor taste not to return the gifts. Definitely cannot gift them to someone else for their BRIDAL SHOWER. That doesn't even make sense. In addition, Sister purposefully scheduled the bridal shower on OP's baby shower date. What was OP to do...not cancel the shower? OP is better than me...I would have dropped out of the bridal party all together. Sister is heartless.
Story her husband needs to stop giving her products away for free they can pay for it. They’re not poor if they like it that much they should pay for it
Story 1. Another unlikely story, undermined by some glaring inconsistencies. OP declares that her only family is her mother, who has no one but OP to care for her, yet her family members attend the wedding and OP later refers to her mother and father.
If I had sent you a gift for the baby shower, and you tried to return it to me, I would tell you that you were still trying, to hang in there, and save it for the child that will be born. Your SIL is way out of line.
S1 NTA his story about the locked closet is too suspicious red flag 1 Relegating you to a separate room right after your wedding day red flag 2. Your husband is a stalker you should have gone to the police, even your friend should have known this. You call yourself a college graduate and you can't figure out that you need a divorce lawyer? Once your husband showed up you should have called the police.
She shouldn't have assumed she was safe, don't stay with a known friend, your car could have a GPS tracker so don't stay where your car is, Check purse and belongings for trackers or Air tags
Story 1: It is beyond my comprehension how a man could expect a newlywed wife to be ok with sleeping alone on a sexless wedding night. Then again, maybe he thought her desire to wait until marriage meant that she viewed sax as a chore to make babies. Still an objectifying creep with warped views on sexuality.
Story 1 notify the police of your creepy find and immediately get a protection order.last story: Dad needed to tell his friends that under doctors orders his wife will no longer be making the pickles but he can ask her if she is willing to share her recipe. He may be having a hard time dealing with her health issues that are also showing her advancing age. At her age and after her surgery it sounds as if her pickle making days are over.
Mary is selfish. Oh, peters lost her child so your wedding shower didn’t go perfectly and you didn’t ruin her bridal shower anyone who’s divided on this issue better be on OP side
Strange marriage story : I would have wanted to know what the husband's explanation was for the 'misunderstanding'. Were the pictures photoshopped nudes?
Story one: Well, this is what happens when you're raised by cultish religious beliefs. Get an annulment. Go to the police, to make it very clear to them that you aren't a missing person. Story two: Your sister is terrible. She wants to steal the name of the dead baby. She wants to take the things you were given, while you are grieving.
Last story you are a good kid to your mother your father should be looking out for her more besides giving away free products I’ll ask her no your wife just had surgery she’s still recovering or do you not care
1st story: you got to be real dumb and desperate to continue being with somebody after the first day he pulled this.. I don't feel sorry for OP. She should have left the day of her marriage. Red flags I'm sure was all around before she married this prevent. As I stated earlier desperation takes precedence over common sense.
The OP might be intelligent in academics as she was a successful college student but her SOCIAL intelligence, her ability to read SOCIAL CUES and spot (and deal with) RED FLAGS was PISS POOR. And her outdated bullcrap about ''saving herself for marriage" sure as hell did not do her much good (in this situation it might have because she is probably better off for never having slept with him). She is just a pathetic person who did NOT make enough of an effort to truly get to know him before marrying him and I feel no sympathy for her at all. I am glad she escaped the situation and can move on with her life but she deserved all of the heartache she suffered and the 3 years of her life that she wasted with him. That is what she gets for NOT being wise and responsible enough to be CAREFUL before choosing to marry a person. She was NOT careful enough so her suffering was deserved. Not in a MORAL sense like a murderer "deserving" execution but from a personal responsibility standpoint like a habitual smoker of cigarettes deserving lung cancer. She did this to herself.
@@oneuup2490 I almost never feel sympathy for people who end up married to abusive nut jobs. Marriage is a lifetime commitment (in theory, I know how common divorce is) and it is a person's responsibility to be DAMNED SURE they know what they are getting into first. I consider any person who does not do that to be irresponsible. I know none of us read minds but too many people ignore or are too naive to spot red flags that to me are totally obvious. I disrespect them even more if they have CHILDREN with a nutjob.
"I picked up mom's call and said I'm safe and I'd explain everything soon".... Dramatic much? I mean yeah all that is creepy but you could have explained it to your mom right then. You were already 9ut of the house and safe at "friend's" place.
pickle story: NTA protecting mom and by extension your own mental health as caregiver burnout is real and you do have medical issues to add stress to it. even if you were rude you have a medical reason for having no filter. its something you might try to work on but I think you owe no apologies.
I don't want to sound like an insensitive b**** here, but why does everyone in these stories about their partner feel the need to give us the details of their romantic backstory? Unless the story of how you met and first fell in love with them is connected to what's going on in the actual post, it's completely unnecessary.
Divorce??? They didn't even consummate, get an annulment.
They consummated. He's just getting some OP nookie then going to his creepy room and imagining doing it with his picture haram.
These days, it's usually a certain amount of time.
Story 1: if they did not consumate the marriage, she should get an annulment. Even if they did she still may be able to get one.
If I was op I would have taken pictures of the room and went to the cops 👮♀️ and file a protect order story1
While incredibly creepy , I don’t think it’s actually illegal to have pictures of random women all over your bedroom so the police couldn’t do anything.
Thought about it a bit and while the police can’t do anything,they might be interested in seeing that room just to make sure there aren’t any missing women in his collection of pictures. OP should have gone to the police immediately because as a resident of the house she could have let them take a look at the room. Now they have no justification to check it out.
@@bermudabeachbum3582 This story was actually LESS creepy than I had expected. I was imagining obscenity like child pornography all over his walls or him being a serial killer and body parts of murdered women in there. Even if he has technically not broken the law I bet this could go in the OP's favor in CIVIL court for the divorce or annulment proceedings. And the cops would not be totally useless. They could still escort her and provide guaranteed protection while she packs her stuff to leave so that there is no danger of him attacking her.
Maybe he had a deformity he didn't want her to see .or He was a she thinks he's a man. If so she needs help if she likes women then she should come clean. She still needs to know why I would have needed to know if
I'm glad OP took pictures of that room. Because if she didn't, he could have ripped those pictures down and acted like she was delusional. Even though her friend was there. How creepy!
OP's sister is being very very insensitive.
OP is definitely not the a-hole here. Dad needed to realize that his wife isn't able to do what their friends wanted. And not taking no for an answer is so infuriating.
She should put a big sign on the door "Begone moochers, away with you vultures!"
Story 1 it sounds like the Husband is a hardcore Voyeurist.
Why wouldn’t you IMMEDIATELY CALL THE COPS?! Seriously serial killer and you just run away
Story1: I've known this kind of stuff only in my nightmares.. and everytime I was up with my shaking body
Where in the world do they have a 24 hr library? Must be no end of homeless people in there..
My uni had 24 hour library, it wasn't staffed at night but students could use ID to get in
A modern Bluebeard tale. right down to the locked door.
NTA.. and HERE is where this should go.. Mom CAN NARRATE safely, so tell DAD to go buy all the crap.. and MOM will instruct HIM how to do ALL THE WORK to make em the SAME WAY.. if he says NO?? BELT HIM!!
She married someone she didn't even know. Didn't live with him, didn't have any intimacy with him and when married says we have separate bedrooms 🤦🏾♂️🤣
I posted above that I strongly disapprove of the practice of not having intimacy until AFTER marriage. Our world got that one bass ackwards. Not everyone is sexually compatible not every one has the right "chemistry" with a partner and LIVING with someone before marriage is also a VERY GOOD IDEA.
She might not technically be religious as she said but religion and its bullcrap moral ideologies are so ingrained in our culture and society that even militant atheists are affected to a degree. I for example am a total atheist and yet I disrespect people who have children out of wedlock.
My grandfather married my grandmother with out living together or being intimate before marriage and we're married for 61 years
@@Zurround My grandparents were not intimate before married or didn't live together and were married for 61 years
@@diyboomboxesintexas2805 congratulations to them?
@@diyboomboxesintexas2805 Well they were "compatible" I guess, that means they were LUCKY. They rolled the dice and got the number they were hoping for. My opinion that intimacy BEFORE marriage is a much better bet still stands.
Talk about red flags
So was he a potential serial killer 😢😮 what!
Two stories that could be told in an asylum.
Shades of Bluebeard, the fairy story.
That first one reminds me of the "Blue Beard" folktale.
S1. Hope we get an update. Stay safe OP! S2. OPs fam is disgusting! Sounds like it's time to go NC
Marriages need be consummated so an anullment will be a lot easier.
To the last OP: I wish that was my super power.
Annulment. The marriage wasn't consummated. That is what she needs, not divorce as technically they aren't married.
Happy Tuesday Everyone from Tacoma Washington!( Stay Safe and warm )
The thumbnail should have read..." I married a stalker".
Leave the State, before or after the Divorce😮😮😮
If I could have children and was pregnant but unfortunately ended up having a miscarriage I would put all of the baby stuff online for free giving it to parents who can't afford to buy that kind of stuff
I think I'd just take it all to a pregnancy center and get it over with.
Reminds me of the fairy tale "Bluebeard"
Same here. I was half-expecting OP to find 'the bodies of his former wives'.
OP with the pickle-making mom should send the recipes to everyone who is complaining and tell them to do it themselves.. Pickles aren't that hard to make.
Tell the dad to do it instead since he is so free to give it someone else's hard labor away without permission.
I'm confused and questioning story 1. 1st why did she not go to police. There would be no questioning of the room. The police would see it. Putting that on social media is not the 1st thing to do. She could be arrested for putting the photos on FB. 2. Yes he and this room are creepy. But is there a crime about taking photos of women, who I am guessing we're clothed. The police need to see and take the photos to make sure they are not missing or dead. 3. Why would she file for a divorce, when she could have it annulled. The fact she stayed married to someone who basically said "too bad so sad” to sleeping apart. You don't have to be a genius to know that's not normal.
That last one hit me right between the eyes. I have Degenerative Disc Disease. In the last 25 years I have had 9 surgeries to deal with it, including, 3 spinal fusions with 7 pieces of titanium, cadaver bone and bone from my hip. Surgery to clean out both rotator cuffs from arthritis and bone spurs, carpal tunnel on both wrists, ulnar nerve replacement on both elbows, 4 kidney stone surgeries because of the medications, and now I am going to have surgery for severe stenosis and L4-L5. My friends still need me to teach them how to repair their cars, boats, equipment, and whatever welding they need done. I am being very careful about what I am doing, and if I can't do it, I say so. I also play Bass Guitar in a very good band, and we write and play all our own original music. I am trying to save what I have left for that.
Annulment. Today.
I'm writing this from an undisclosed bunker location. Dick Cheney is down the hall fixing some coffee, but I digress.
Pickle story : NTA OP. You were absolutely right to defend your disabled mother from having to put her health at risk ( and your likelihood of having to be her carer, since her husband cares more about his friends' approval than his wife's health) to please his entitled friends. They are not friends of your Mum's, still expecting her to do all that work even though she has had back surgery and is not young. They just want to use her for their own ends, and your father wants to let them. Your father may be starting with dementia, the way he sees things out of proportion like that. Thank God your were there, OP, or your father would have blithely presented your poor Mum with a huge set of demands on her fragile health, and expected her to fulfil them!
Huge misunderstanding😮
I don't have the excuse of a big operation to account for my lack of a filter. If its in my head it's out of my mouth. I would have told the Entitled couple that there was no way you're mother was up to the work involved in making the pickles but if she wanted them so badly and you're father wanted her to have so badly why didn't they both go shopping,buy everything needed and you're Dad would make them for her.
Hope y'alls day is wonderful.
Thanks! Needed this little greeting today. May you have a wonderful day !
Straight to the FBI or the equivalent of it. If your in another country. Story1
Ok, there are
Lunatics in both story 1 & 2. In pickle story, I would be TICKED if someone gave away the efforts of my hard work. What’s wrong with that freaking couple???I’ll tell you, entitlement and lack of empathy! The dad, & the couple are AH.
MAN and wife. So he's finally a man. Just not a husband. SAD
Story 3
Your father is incredibly selfish your mother is not well enough to be working for this women and your father has absolutely no respect for his own wife and you where a wonderful daughter but your father should get his priorities correct,I would have acted exactly as you did and tell your father to consider his wife's health care because clearly his not a respectful loving husband and he needed a wake up call
Story 2: NTA. What??? It is absolutely in poor taste not to return the gifts. Definitely cannot gift them to someone else for their BRIDAL SHOWER. That doesn't even make sense. In addition, Sister purposefully scheduled the bridal shower on OP's baby shower date. What was OP to do...not cancel the shower? OP is better than me...I would have dropped out of the bridal party all together. Sister is heartless.
Last story, NTA mom needs a break. Go buy the dang pickles
Story her husband needs to stop giving her products away for free they can pay for it. They’re not poor if they like it that much they should pay for it
Story 1. Another unlikely story, undermined by some glaring inconsistencies. OP declares that her only family is her mother, who has no one but OP to care for her, yet her family members attend the wedding and OP later refers to her mother and father.
Perhaps her mum remarried or something
If I had sent you a gift for the baby shower, and you tried to return it to me, I would tell you that you were still trying, to hang in there, and save it for the child that will be born. Your SIL is way out of line.
Story #1 Sounds like some modern-day Bluebeard type ish😐 time to GO
S1 NTA his story about the locked closet is too suspicious red flag 1 Relegating you to a separate room right after your wedding day red flag 2. Your husband is a stalker you should have gone to the police, even your friend should have known this. You call yourself a college graduate and you can't figure out that you need a divorce lawyer?
Once your husband showed up you should have called the police.
She shouldn't have assumed she was safe, don't stay with a known friend, your car could have a GPS tracker so don't stay where your car is, Check purse and belongings for trackers or Air tags
Story 1: It is beyond my comprehension how a man could expect a newlywed wife to be ok with sleeping alone on a sexless wedding night. Then again, maybe he thought her desire to wait until marriage meant that she viewed sax as a chore to make babies. Still an objectifying creep with warped views on sexuality.
Story 1. So how did the husband manage to get to the security feed? Wondering if this story is real or a writing experiment.
Story 1 notify the police of your creepy find and immediately get a protection order.last story: Dad needed to tell his friends that under doctors orders his wife will no longer be making the pickles but he can ask her if she is willing to share her recipe. He may be having a hard time dealing with her health issues that are also showing her advancing age. At her age and after her surgery it sounds as if her pickle making days are over.
Mary is selfish. Oh, peters lost her child so your wedding shower didn’t go perfectly and you didn’t ruin her bridal shower anyone who’s divided on this issue better be on OP side
Strange marriage story : I would have wanted to know what the husband's explanation was for the 'misunderstanding'. Were the pictures photoshopped nudes?
Didn't y'all have some sort of discussion on living arrangements BEFORE you got married?
It's not a question most of us would think to ask about.
@@mbyerly9680 Well, we probably should.
Story one: Well, this is what happens when you're raised by cultish religious beliefs. Get an annulment. Go to the police, to make it very clear to them that you aren't a missing person.
Story two: Your sister is terrible. She wants to steal the name of the dead baby. She wants to take the things you were given, while you are grieving.
Does she think that you had a miscarriage on purpose?
I expected OP husband to be a female pretending to be a male
Last story you are a good kid to your mother your father should be looking out for her more besides giving away free products I’ll ask her no your wife just had surgery she’s still recovering or do you not care
1st story: you got to be real dumb and desperate to continue being with somebody after the first day he pulled this..
I don't feel sorry for OP. She should have left the day of her marriage. Red flags I'm sure was all around before she married this prevent. As I stated earlier desperation takes precedence over common sense.
The OP might be intelligent in academics as she was a successful college student but her SOCIAL intelligence, her ability to read SOCIAL CUES and spot (and deal with) RED FLAGS was PISS POOR. And her outdated bullcrap about ''saving herself for marriage" sure as hell did not do her much good (in this situation it might have because she is probably better off for never having slept with him). She is just a pathetic person who did NOT make enough of an effort to truly get to know him before marrying him and I feel no sympathy for her at all. I am glad she escaped the situation and can move on with her life but she deserved all of the heartache she suffered and the 3 years of her life that she wasted with him. That is what she gets for NOT being wise and responsible enough to be CAREFUL before choosing to marry a person. She was NOT careful enough so her suffering was deserved. Not in a MORAL sense like a murderer "deserving" execution but from a personal responsibility standpoint like a habitual smoker of cigarettes deserving lung cancer. She did this to herself.
@@Zurround I thought I was harsh.. 😆I love it.. This is how I feel about this story.
@@oneuup2490 I almost never feel sympathy for people who end up married to abusive nut jobs. Marriage is a lifetime commitment (in theory, I know how common divorce is) and it is a person's responsibility to be DAMNED SURE they know what they are getting into first. I consider any person who does not do that to be irresponsible. I know none of us read minds but too many people ignore or are too naive to spot red flags that to me are totally obvious. I disrespect them even more if they have CHILDREN with a nutjob.
@@Zurround And they know they are nutjobs and still choose to procreate with mess.
"I picked up mom's call and said I'm safe and I'd explain everything soon".... Dramatic much? I mean yeah all that is creepy but you could have explained it to your mom right then. You were already 9ut of the house and safe at "friend's" place.
pickle story: NTA protecting mom and by extension your own mental health as caregiver burnout is real and you do have medical issues to add stress to it. even if you were rude you have a medical reason for having no filter. its something you might try to work on but I think you owe no apologies.
I don't want to sound like an insensitive b**** here, but why does everyone in these stories about their partner feel the need to give us the details of their romantic backstory? Unless the story of how you met and first fell in love with them is connected to what's going on in the actual post, it's completely unnecessary.
Never get married and never let anyone into your home.
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Now you tell me! I could have done with that advice 40 years ago( married my ex at 18, yes I was stupid)
I’ve been HAPPILY married for 34 years and wouldn’t change not a single day!
@@deborahdicesare9042 great, you are one of the lucky ones....until.....
@@peachesrambo4037
Until what?
Get to the point!!!!